>bibrael >luxray >kricketune >""""quality mons"""""""
Good to see sinnoh fans as delusional as ever
Starly, Shinx and Budew line are all incredibly solid for that early in the game. Meanwhile in Hoenn, you have Ralts, Shroomish or Lotad as the only decent mons. Let's not forget Sinnoh's Gym1 comes much quicker than Hoenn's Gym1. 2 towns, 3 routes Vs 2 towns 4 routes plus a forest
Starly and Shinx are fricking shitmons, dont kid yourself. Theres other kantomons you can use that perform better or do the same shit. And stop changing the subject, were talking about the WHOLE game in 1 playthrough from lab to E4, not before the first 2 fricking gyms. Sinnoh has a shit distribution with almost ALL new mons being fricking dogshit designwise and compwise, and the only good shit being cross evos locked behind post game. The game is too backloaded.
Yeah gen 3 has its fair share of shitmons like the single stage doublepartner spam, but the distribution is way fricking better and the earlyroute mons are more varied and usable.
Its fricking sad and pathetic that Sinnohgays have to start genwarring now after their shit region got exposed with BDSP. Instead of just admitting you got dealt a bad hand and focusing on the good you have to attack other gens. Miserable.
Starly learns Wing Attack and evolves early than Taillow. Shitmon, my ass. Play the game. Shinx can support the party well with Intimidate too. >Its fricking sad and pathetic that Sinnohgays have to start genwarring now
Hoenngays are some of the most delusional fricks on the board, literally a Hoenngay in the OP.
Linoone can belly drum sweep E4, Gardevoir, Breloom, and ludicolo are pretty good lategame while Mightyena Dustox and Pelliper are good early game. Swellow and Slaking are S tier mons because guts facade decimates everything; and truant isn’t the end of the world against AI. The only bad mons are Masquerain, and Delshitty.
Not bragging, just understanding the context of the Gen and that HM slaves were useful. That by definition means it's not a shitmon since it has a use.
Plenty of hoenn's early pokemon are useful, like shroomish and makuhita, and plenty become good like ralts, slakoth, whismur, etc. Even seedot and lotad are good for their early evo level and advantage over the first gym
The only pokemon that could remotely qualify as a shitmon ingame here in skitty.
Even then it has STAB and utility, its stats are just bad.
All the others evolve quite early or they have plenty of STAB and utility options, or they're really good mid-late game.
Mightyena gets Intimidate
the Ralts line is good
the Lotad line is good
Guts Swellow is busted
Poison Heal Brelloom is busted
Slaking is the single best non uber mon you can have in a casual playthrough, also the best BF mon period
the Nincada line is good
Pelipper is the linchpin of every rain team
besides being wrong, it's not even the main point
no other region besides hoenn bombards you with so many new mons so early on, it's the only time where you really feel like you're in some frickoff distant land full of new, exotic shit
gen 5 also had a lot of new mons but worse distribution and the gen 1 parallels in design made it feel too familiar
this is such a moronic nitpick, even if there aren't many gen 4 Pokémon before the first gym they have a higher usable to shitmon ratio and you also have access to many non gen 4 mons
>Linoone
Drops off HARD after Flannery, but useful for HMs >Mightyena
Dead weight from the start >Dustox and Beautifly
Drops off after Brawly >Shiftry
Locked until post Winnona. At which point it becomes useless >Gardevoir
Actually useful >Masquerain
Drops off after Brawly >Ludicolo
Useful >Swellow
Drops off after Flannery >Breloom
Useful >Slaking
Truant. >Delcatty
Literally zero uses outside of filling a dex slot. >Ninjask
Pretty useful >Shedinja
Useful >Exploud
Great coverage, but lacks I power to get anything done reliable >Pellipper
Useful. >Hariyama
Eh. Useful. Fighting types are really good in Hoenn.
>Staraptor
Can literally replace your starter. >Bibarel
Best HM user to get around the map >Kricketune
Dead in the water >Luxury
Actually useful >Roserade
B
Best Grass type option in the game.
Adjusted for size. Hoenn has more useless mons from the start, while Sinnoh literally has one.
>Linoone >Drops off HARD after Flannery, but useful for HMs
It doesn't drop off whatsoever you can sweep the entire elite four besides Phoebe with Linoone. >Mightyena >Dead weight from the start
It sucks in the beginning but then becomes a solid intimidate mon with a unique STAB. its not THAT bad. >Dustox and Beautifly >Drops off after Brawly
fair >Shiftry >Locked until post Winnona. At which point it becomes useless
You get a leaf stone right before Winona and grass types are bad in Hoenn at all considering the water and final gyms/champion (emerald). I will say before it evolves fully its not amazing, but it can get growth+faint attack+synthesis+sunny day all through level up >Gardevoir
Actually useful >Masquerain >Drops off after Brawly
I imagine so, never used him >Ludicolo >Useful
It sucks pretty hard after Roxanne until you get Ludicolo tbh because no water STAB before you get surf >Swellow >Drops off after Flannery
I just can't imagine that being true when there are multiple elite four/gyms with pokemon weak to flying and considering guts facade >Breloom
Useful >Slaking >Truant.
But it can fricking kill anything in 1 hit then you just swap out. Sounds pretty decent >Delcatty >Literally zero uses outside of filling a dex slot.
valid >Ninjask
Pretty useful >Shedinja
Useful >Exploud
Great coverage, but lacks I power to get anything done reliable >Pellipper
Useful. >Hariyama
Eh. Useful. Fighting types are really good in Hoenn.
Nice writeup I just had some of my own opinions to insert
>you can sweep the entire elite four besides Phoebe with Linoone
Even Phoebe dies to Linoone, she always uses Protect in the first turn so you get a free turn to use Belly Drum, after that, just spam Shadow Ball
>Swellow >Drops off after Flannery
2 words, Guts Facade >Slaking >Truant.
Doesn't matter when everything dies in 1 turn. Especially in gen 3 when Hyper Beam is physical.
Amazing how you can get a pretty decent team of six before even getting 1 badge. >Starter >Gardevoir >Swellow/Pelipper >Ludicolo/Shiftry >Hariyama >Exploud/Slaking
You're just jealous your favorite region doesn't have a team of based top percentage pokemon like Heracross and Staraptor. God just look at the aesthetic of that Johto team, it doesn't get better than that.
>God just look at the aesthetic of that Johto team
Blobby featureless plushiemons feat. Gyarados? Yeah, that's the Johto aesthetic in a nutshell alright.
What other team are you going to make in Sinnoh, a godforsaken region where 40 of the 66 Pokemon available before the Elite Four are either Water, Psychic, Bug, Flying, or Normal type?
Because it is. "Before the first gym" is a ridiculous measure of Pokemon diversity since first gyms come at different times. Hoenn does the gen 1 thing of skipping a gym town and going through a forest before the first badge.
>Bunch of shitmon before first gym vs small amount of quality mons before first gym
Sinnoh wins again.
Anon, the only "quality" shitmon on there is Budew line, and even then thats left wanting. Just admit your region has poor distribution.
Sorry, but Kricketune is one of the best memes in Pokemon, automatically not a shitmon.
it's a shitmon because it has shit stats you fricking loser
Stats aren't all that matters. Especially before the first gym.
You have to be 18 or older to post here anon...
I don't understand the logic here. To have played DP when it was released, you would have to be 18 years or older by default.
It has nothing to do with playing sinnoh on release, no normal adult references memes in response to criticism and expects to be taken seriously
Why? It is relevant to the discussion.
It's never relevant for adults.
>Platinum released in 2009 in the West
>13 years ago
>kid could play Platinum at 4 years old and only be 17 now
I mean…
Starly, Shinx and Budew line are all incredibly solid for that early in the game. Meanwhile in Hoenn, you have Ralts, Shroomish or Lotad as the only decent mons. Let's not forget Sinnoh's Gym1 comes much quicker than Hoenn's Gym1. 2 towns, 3 routes Vs 2 towns 4 routes plus a forest
Starly and Shinx are fricking shitmons, dont kid yourself. Theres other kantomons you can use that perform better or do the same shit. And stop changing the subject, were talking about the WHOLE game in 1 playthrough from lab to E4, not before the first 2 fricking gyms. Sinnoh has a shit distribution with almost ALL new mons being fricking dogshit designwise and compwise, and the only good shit being cross evos locked behind post game. The game is too backloaded.
Yeah gen 3 has its fair share of shitmons like the single stage doublepartner spam, but the distribution is way fricking better and the earlyroute mons are more varied and usable.
Its fricking sad and pathetic that Sinnohgays have to start genwarring now after their shit region got exposed with BDSP. Instead of just admitting you got dealt a bad hand and focusing on the good you have to attack other gens. Miserable.
Starly learns Wing Attack and evolves early than Taillow. Shitmon, my ass. Play the game. Shinx can support the party well with Intimidate too.
>Its fricking sad and pathetic that Sinnohgays have to start genwarring now
Hoenngays are some of the most delusional fricks on the board, literally a Hoenngay in the OP.
You wanna know how I can tell you’ve never used a Staraptor?
Linoone can belly drum sweep E4, Gardevoir, Breloom, and ludicolo are pretty good lategame while Mightyena Dustox and Pelliper are good early game. Swellow and Slaking are S tier mons because guts facade decimates everything; and truant isn’t the end of the world against AI. The only bad mons are Masquerain, and Delshitty.
>bibrael
>luxray
>kricketune
>""""quality mons"""""""
Good to see sinnoh fans as delusional as ever
Bibarel is the best HM slave in the game, also Bidoof is a literal God.
Luxray has one of the best designs in Pokemon.
DELELELELELELWOOOOOOOOPPP.
I don't see the delusion.
>bragging about HM slaves
The absolute state
>hm slaves
Do people really?
Not bragging, just understanding the context of the Gen and that HM slaves were useful. That by definition means it's not a shitmon since it has a use.
HMs were and always will be shit, and thank god they're moving away from them.
>choices and consequences in an RPG is bad
>choices
you had no choice but to use them tho???
that is a funny picture
Plenty of hoenn's early pokemon are useful, like shroomish and makuhita, and plenty become good like ralts, slakoth, whismur, etc. Even seedot and lotad are good for their early evo level and advantage over the first gym
Didn't Shedinja win VGC?
The only pokemon that could remotely qualify as a shitmon ingame here in skitty.
Even then it has STAB and utility, its stats are just bad.
All the others evolve quite early or they have plenty of STAB and utility options, or they're really good mid-late game.
Mightyena gets Intimidate
the Ralts line is good
the Lotad line is good
Guts Swellow is busted
Poison Heal Brelloom is busted
Slaking is the single best non uber mon you can have in a casual playthrough, also the best BF mon period
the Nincada line is good
Pelipper is the linchpin of every rain team
really says something that Mightyena gets intimidate and is still so awful
>poison heal
we're talking about the real games here
>seething DSbabb huffing copium in the first post
You love to see it
besides being wrong, it's not even the main point
no other region besides hoenn bombards you with so many new mons so early on, it's the only time where you really feel like you're in some frickoff distant land full of new, exotic shit
gen 5 also had a lot of new mons but worse distribution and the gen 1 parallels in design made it feel too familiar
>counting Hoenn version exclusives as part of the same group
Dumb
>bunch of shitmon and one waifubait
vs
>two great designs (Starly, shinx), two shitmons, and something that's achieved meme status
All the new pokemon in RSE are shit tier, whereas at least two of the new designs in Sinnoh are great.
They literally explained why in that latest DYKG video. Gen 3 was originally going to be a full reboot like Gen 5.
this is such a moronic nitpick, even if there aren't many gen 4 Pokémon before the first gym they have a higher usable to shitmon ratio and you also have access to many non gen 4 mons
Man the design quality dropped so hard in just one gen
>makuhita
Wrong.
>Linoone
Drops off HARD after Flannery, but useful for HMs
>Mightyena
Dead weight from the start
>Dustox and Beautifly
Drops off after Brawly
>Shiftry
Locked until post Winnona. At which point it becomes useless
>Gardevoir
Actually useful
>Masquerain
Drops off after Brawly
>Ludicolo
Useful
>Swellow
Drops off after Flannery
>Breloom
Useful
>Slaking
Truant.
>Delcatty
Literally zero uses outside of filling a dex slot.
>Ninjask
Pretty useful
>Shedinja
Useful
>Exploud
Great coverage, but lacks I power to get anything done reliable
>Pellipper
Useful.
>Hariyama
Eh. Useful. Fighting types are really good in Hoenn.
>Staraptor
Can literally replace your starter.
>Bibarel
Best HM user to get around the map
>Kricketune
Dead in the water
>Luxury
Actually useful
>Roserade
B
Best Grass type option in the game.
Adjusted for size. Hoenn has more useless mons from the start, while Sinnoh literally has one.
>Linoone
>Drops off HARD after Flannery, but useful for HMs
It doesn't drop off whatsoever you can sweep the entire elite four besides Phoebe with Linoone.
>Mightyena
>Dead weight from the start
It sucks in the beginning but then becomes a solid intimidate mon with a unique STAB. its not THAT bad.
>Dustox and Beautifly
>Drops off after Brawly
fair
>Shiftry
>Locked until post Winnona. At which point it becomes useless
You get a leaf stone right before Winona and grass types are bad in Hoenn at all considering the water and final gyms/champion (emerald). I will say before it evolves fully its not amazing, but it can get growth+faint attack+synthesis+sunny day all through level up
>Gardevoir
Actually useful
>Masquerain
>Drops off after Brawly
I imagine so, never used him
>Ludicolo
>Useful
It sucks pretty hard after Roxanne until you get Ludicolo tbh because no water STAB before you get surf
>Swellow
>Drops off after Flannery
I just can't imagine that being true when there are multiple elite four/gyms with pokemon weak to flying and considering guts facade
>Breloom
Useful
>Slaking
>Truant.
But it can fricking kill anything in 1 hit then you just swap out. Sounds pretty decent
>Delcatty
>Literally zero uses outside of filling a dex slot.
valid
>Ninjask
Pretty useful
>Shedinja
Useful
>Exploud
Great coverage, but lacks I power to get anything done reliable
>Pellipper
Useful.
>Hariyama
Eh. Useful. Fighting types are really good in Hoenn.
Nice writeup I just had some of my own opinions to insert
>you can sweep the entire elite four besides Phoebe with Linoone
Even Phoebe dies to Linoone, she always uses Protect in the first turn so you get a free turn to use Belly Drum, after that, just spam Shadow Ball
>Swellow
>Drops off after Flannery
2 words, Guts Facade
>Slaking
>Truant.
Doesn't matter when everything dies in 1 turn. Especially in gen 3 when Hyper Beam is physical.
>caring about any of this
did you learn nothing from Karen
Kricketune is an insane early game mon in BDSP
Amazing how you can get a pretty decent team of six before even getting 1 badge.
>Starter
>Gardevoir
>Swellow/Pelipper
>Ludicolo/Shiftry
>Hariyama
>Exploud/Slaking
Shinx a cute
You're butthurt that alone is a win for kinnohbros
Gens 2-5 are all good games.
>all those shitmons with dull movesets
Gen 3 is unironically pre-split gameplay at its worst. I'd much rather play with gen 2.
>this kills the sinnohfetus
You're just jealous your favorite region doesn't have a team of based top percentage pokemon like Heracross and Staraptor. God just look at the aesthetic of that Johto team, it doesn't get better than that.
>God just look at the aesthetic of that Johto team
Blobby featureless plushiemons feat. Gyarados? Yeah, that's the Johto aesthetic in a nutshell alright.
>using heracross
>bad
Commit perish song
>only mons I used on that list are Typhlosion and Centiskorch
Feels good to be a based free thinker.
>he played gen 8
>free thinker
These are some homosexual teams no way these are common
What other team are you going to make in Sinnoh, a godforsaken region where 40 of the 66 Pokemon available before the Elite Four are either Water, Psychic, Bug, Flying, or Normal type?
>It's yet again the discord troon defending XY
Your bait is so boring and old, homosexual troon.
>Gamefreak decides to test the audience's IQ for once and restrict access to certain types
>they all got filtered
Really makes you think.
Pokemon is a pet simulator not having access to those pets is a bad thing
On Unova's list, you forgotten about Alolomola, Volcarona and Tornadus/Thundurus.
OOF
>Exploud
>Crobat
>sneasel
>available before e4
>DP: 33
>XY: 27
uhh wdym there, weren't you meant to shit on XY?
also with cross-evos removed
>DP: 29
>XY: 26
This image feels disingenuous.
Because it is. "Before the first gym" is a ridiculous measure of Pokemon diversity since first gyms come at different times. Hoenn does the gen 1 thing of skipping a gym town and going through a forest before the first badge.
enough with the Singuinosusiu buzzword bullshit.
>i saw it on the internet so you have to stop using the language you speak
>there are ingame shitmons
You guys are terrible.
Do any of you actually use Zigzagoon, Poochyena, Skitty, etc.
I remember a zigzagoon anon and a poochyena anon
Other than PMD, don't remember a skitty anon
They hated him because he said the TRUTH
Im a unovagay and I think sinnoh fricking sucks, lol so much for your boogeyman
nice try but there is no ill will between DSchads
I wish kriketune was good I love the design but dear lord is he horrendous to use
I've enjoyed every gen. Galar is the worst by a wide margin, but I still enjoyed it.
I love Bidoof