Slay The Princess

>If I can get the VAs on board as a commission
Good luck mate, tell us if they accept

NTA but I feel like people like the speedreader anon just lack the necessary game-related vocabulary to describe what they actually experience, they see something akin to a meta-progression game loop, grasp that it isn't the conventional way the games are usually structured, but the only real thing of this caliber they're ever really heard of is 4th wall breaks so they just assume that's what it must be too

The fact that a character can close your game and tell how long you waited is 4th wall breaking.

I'd agree with this, actually, that's the one time the game does lean on the 4th wall, though I think it's a better solution than having you wait on the screen itself. Makes it clear that she can change what she says based on how long you wait.

I disagree, it's to represent your character waiting. When you launch the game again she notes that the character came back and says how long he has waited. The key point being the character. It would become meta if she directly addressed you the player, but she does not. The only other real way to do it is to have a prompt come up and ask you to type in how long you are waiting, and that doesn't sound as good to me.

>What textures will you weave for yourself to occupy forever? Will you place the images of 'You' and 'I' into a box for safekeeping?
>If you close that box, will you become another you in another world? An imaginary pattern repeating itself until it can no longer beat the weight of its hand-drawn cage.
Pretty sure she's talking about save files here

I agree with you, but

I mean, despite each run starting from zero the game still keeps track of the runs you already did and how they went, not unlike modern roguelites, so the term "meta-progression" IMO kind of fits
What I really wanted to contrast here is the narrow-mindedness of someone just screaming "4th wall breaks!!" and someone more game-literate being aware that there are more than two ways a story can be structured
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That's more of a cheeky nod at the 4th wall than a real break, the story itself is still well inside the confines of a conventional narrative, at no point the characters become aware that they are inside a video game

had the right of it. It's not Undertale or DDLC where that you're posting a video game is explicitly part of the narrative. Like, Stellaris has a race of aliens who learnt reality was artificial, but I wouldn't call it meta because of that.

Talking with the narrator is alrady a 4th wall break

Only in the sense that you as the player have a preconceived notion of what a 'narrator' is supposed to be in relation to a story, which does not apply to this character in this story that literally in-universe is another person who directly guides the protagonist

Narrator is not narrating for (you), he is narrating for you that character. Lets say your a Schizo with a voice in your head describing what you do and see in your day to day life. Would Jesus Christ our lord and savior consider that a fourth wall break because you have a voice narrating what you do?
Meta involves bring the Player AKA (you) in directly and incorporating (you) into the story. The Narrator does not do this, he is only every talking to you, the player character within the confines of the story. (you) are never brought into it.
Following your argument to its conclusion, you could argue that any narrator in any videogame is a 4th wall break. Even item descriptions could be 4th wall breaks at that point.

I do wish more item descriptions were from the POV from the player character.

Would you call Zelda a 4th wall breaking metanarrative game because characters tell you to do things by pressing A?

Sure, but she isn't explicitly referencing saving. She speaking in a way which could be alluding to it, but is too vague to say that it's what she specifically means.
And all that aside, if you're going to tease the fourth wall in a game that has no meaningful meta commentary to make on gaming specifically, doing so as you exit and enter the game isn't the worst place to do it. I liked Everhood for example but it had some really egregious fourth wall breaking in the middle of the game that just felt like a cynical attempt to appeal to the zoomer crowd.

>Will you place the images of 'You' and 'I' into a box for safekeeping?
Yes. Yes I will

The one for the wallpapers?
https://mega.nz/folder/iN5ASBZA#YU3iCF4zRmiDNRObh1KF2Q
If you want the game assets just google "how to unpack rpa" and unpack the archive.rpa file in the game folder.

That's a lot of images.
Can you post bottom fifth one, as well as eighth one?

Kekus maximus, thanks anon.
Now that I think about it, did TLQ ever used his huge-as-fuck talons? Because they're REALLY big. And the ones on his feet are even bigger, just kick, you dumb bird.

The long quiet never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

I've never thrown an axe so I wouldn't know.

the stranger looks like a fun lady

yeah, stranger only has like 5 lines of dialogue but i wish she had content
i want to be friends with the bugs

the glukglukqueen

Give it a shot. It's far more unsettling in motion with the distorted voice.

The muppet princess, my beloved.

God, the Prisoner's blank stare makes me want to nut.

>the thing that surprises me the most is the amount of idiots that didn't grab her head
I knew I was SUPPOSE to, but my inner voice of the contrarian demanded I see what happens if I don't.

He even shows up during the Cabin ending, if you went for a Stranger.

>spoiler
Really? I thought it was pretty obvious.

On one hand, she's like a cool and standoffish gal who, unlike the cold princess that she was in Chapter 1 when you bring the knife, was a little more open and willing to trust you if you would trust her. Having her trust feels like a thousand bucks, and I could nut over that.
On another, to think you can have crazy jackhammer sex with her, she could take it like a champ and keep going with no problem.

Getting choked and being on the other end of a brawler chain choke is not my ideal nut experience, but look at that stance. She'll fight for it.

Pic related is my collection
Most of the size comes from the bonus content folder, but I've still got like 200 pics saved from here

Good point, this is a trope called "leaning on the 4th wall", it is distinct from a 4th wall break because her words can be interpreted both as refering to something outside and inside the digesis (the world of the narrative), the "box" could be refering to the game itself, but it could also be the construct.

I disagree, it's to represent your character waiting. When you launch the game again she notes that the character came back and says how long he has waited. The key point being the character. It would become meta if she directly addressed you the player, but she does not. The only other real way to do it is to have a prompt come up and ask you to type in how long you are waiting, and that doesn't sound as good to me.

Too many zoomers on this site these days.

well, he does blast someone's dick off

I don't think "stream of consciousness" fits, at least not in the same way that I have seen it described and used in the past. It's more of a POV from a character/narrator, where this is more of an overarching narrative method.

I think he also asks about characters overcoming the Narrator. How do you call a story in which your character can interact with the Narrator of said story? Meta-something-something? It's never a 4th wall breaking, since they always remain withing the constrains of the video game world, but characters in this game twist the story however they see fit.

Blame the oldfags for literally dying off. If you were browsing the board from the start in your twenties, that would make you in your forties now. Which means that for every 1/10 Anons who were browsing the board back then they are already dead.

Wow, that's dark.

Cyclical, maybe? There's technically three levels of loops: the main game one or run, each Princess' route, and then the chapters in that route. Each of the lower two cycles round while the first is self contained and doesn't acknowledge any other runs you go through.

I mean, despite each run starting from zero the game still keeps track of the runs you already did and how they went, not unlike modern roguelites, so the term "meta-progression" IMO kind of fits
What I really wanted to contrast here is the narrow-mindedness of someone just screaming "4th wall breaks!!" and someone more game-literate being aware that there are more than two ways a story can be structured

[...]
The fact that a character can close your game and tell how long you waited is 4th wall breaking.

That's more of a cheeky nod at the 4th wall than a real break, the story itself is still well inside the confines of a conventional narrative, at no point the characters become aware that they are inside a video game

>You do.... You have.... You have.... You also have....
Not falling for this shit Narracuck, caw at somebody else.
But more seriously the protagonist does explicitly "physically" change between each successful look into the mirror, and in less explicit ways depending on the Princess route. In one iteration he almost definitely has a beak, we see it smashed against the while, while in another he couldn't possibly without it getting in the way of a deep kiss. In the first chapter he can perish pathetically to (relatively) weak versions of the Princess, while in Adversary and Razor he can rival or outfight brutal monstrosities in ways that indicate his own being has fundamentally shifted to keep up with his opponent.
The instances in which we are shown the protagonist do depict his feathers, the scaly arms and calves, the eyes and wings and horns, and these elements stay more or less the same. But he still remains mostly occluded, and is never shown to us at the moments in which he must be at his most exceptional. He is also always exactly the same between one of several decaying shapes, corresponding to the number of Princesses he has already exhausted, when he sees himself in the mirror in the Long Quiet, and always after the discarding of his voices and the loss of any wounds or disfigurements from the previous world. We must infer that he is reshaping himself, sometimes frequently and sometimes dramatically, yet also that we as the audience will never acquire more than an indirect glimpse into these forms.

> does explicitly "physically" change between each successful look into the mirror
Those are minor differences. You can look plagued, withered, or bigger. The fundamentals are always the same. And they are what I described them as.
>in which he must be at his most exceptional
Well, he doesn't actually look much different during the fight with Snu-Snu Princess, other than missing jaw and left eye.
>we see it smashed against the wall
It's hard to tell what it actually is. it could be big feathers.
> We must infer that he is reshaping himself, sometimes frequently and sometimes dramatically
He reshapes himself, but just barelly. His fundamentals remain the same.
>In the first chapter he can perish pathetically to (relatively) weak versions of the Princess, while in Adversary and Razor he can rival or outfight brutal monstrosities in ways that indicate his own being has fundamentally shifted to keep up with his opponent.
Not really, he remains relatively the same, maybe slightly bigger. He can function without the need for a bigger form, he can just get up while being completely broken. It depends on whether he thinks he can die or not.

Do you still have all of the memories of when you were a baby? Or even of everything you did yesterday? Do you find it horrible that you don't?

Makes more sense than Lamb.

No, it's just a fan concept some drawanon made a few sketches for

Ahh very well carry on anon. Keep up the good work.