a fuckin space wolf psyker who kept going on and on throughout the book how his psyker shit is different because its tied to fenris, despite literally floating through the exact same psyker sea as ahriman
Reminder Russ waited a good bit for Magnus to try and reach out cause he thought that’s what would have happened. When Magnus was a moron and refused to reach out any talk Russ just did his orders like he probably did twice before.
> yeah this massive fleet showed up and is keeping all shields down and open hailing frequencies.... better just be an angsty whiney bitch and not give them a ring.
You absolutely know Russ would have done the OG orders from the emperor if there had been an ounce of communication from retard.
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Russ is a retard but magnus is an even bigger retard. They deserve each other
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He should have done the OG orders anyway because they were from the fucking Emperor instead Russ decided to do what Chaos told him to do.
lol, dogfuckers SWERVE >The Wolf King boasted to all that he was his father's executioner. >He was a deterrent, a hound to snarl from behind a sealed gate, never to be unleashed. What the Lion was to his father did not speak its name so brazenly. >For where Russ was a warning, the Lion was a solution. >The final solution. He was the Emperor’s exterminator. What the honour of Russ would not abide he would sanction without hesitation. >The enemy who might yet be integrated, the adversary whose misguided but noble resistance might be canonised in posterity, these were wars for his brothers to wage. >When the First Legion turned their guns upon a foe it was to annihilate without trace, to obliterate beyond all hope of record.
>That was the purpose for which the Dark Angels were created and it was the reason that He made them first.
They turned a franchise known for being Dark Fantasy and turned it into shitty cosmic slop about 'muh realms'. AoS will never be good.
I hate SW so much, and I fucking hate how their fangoys are all like >BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY LE SUPER SMART AND CLEVER, THE BARBARIAN THING IS JUST AN ELABORATE RUSE
And then the SW act like retarded fratbros anyway.
Also leman is an annoying fag and a Jobber
White Scars are the most Chad legion >Are Barbarians but are actually smart instead of just pretending to be smart like dogfuckers >Nobody even in universe remembers they exist but don't cry about it like the Iron redditors >Actually helped during the heresy
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>>Are Barbarians
That's the thing, they aren't barbarians, everyone just thinks they are because they see them at face value.
This is why they don't like the wolves, because they are constantly compared to them as the "barbarian" legions.
A "basic" inquisitor can probably win a "basic" marine 1v1,lorewise.
Not to mention inquisitors have near absolute authority within the imperium. A marine is just a soldier, even if a great one.
Depends greatly on the inquisitor: some inquisitors might be physical slobs who barely lift their ass of their chair, while some might be extremely competent combatants that have destroyed/banished (greater) daemons. The powerscale for inquisitor is much larger, but the possible ceiling is much higher than for a normal battle brother space marine.
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You need to take into account the fact that an inquisitor could be armed with literally *anything*, not to mention having all kinds of skills and abilities (psyker) a "normal" marine will have no access to.
A space marine captain or similiar would probably wipe the floor with all but the most formidable inquisitors.
Eisenhorn took out a CSM. Granted he's not basic but neither was that marine.
So, not a "basic" inquisitor like the guy typed. Are you guys retarded?
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tbh Eisenhorn at that point in his life was probably as close to a "basic" Inquisitor as you'd get. But even then the idea of a "basic" inquisitor is nonsense. To be an inquisitor you need to be special.
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Being a psyker means you're not even remotely close to basic.
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He was a pretty low level psyker compared to other inquisitors in his ordo though. I get what you're saying though.
>A "basic" inquisitor can probably win a "basic" marine 1v1,lorewise.
no lmao.
You need to take into account the fact that an inquisitor could be armed with literally *anything*, not to mention having all kinds of skills and abilities (psyker) a "normal" marine will have no access to.
A space marine captain or similiar would probably wipe the floor with all but the most formidable inquisitors.
Yeah, Inquisitors have access to some stupidly powerful shit, even more so if they are radical.
Hell Eisenhorn arguably took down an entire Titan single-handedly in the third book.
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>took down an entire Titan single-handedly in the third book.
You know damn well what the cost was
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>You know damn well what the cost was
One (1) Daemonhost
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let's be honest, Eisenhorn did none of the heavy lifting in that encounter. That was all daemonhost
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It was his Daemonhost, if I shoot someone I can't just say that it was the gun that did it, it was my gun, and I pulled the trigger.
Eisenhorn had a weapon, and he used that weapon.
On the first trip to Cadia, a literal subhuman in a loincloth is able to kill a Word Bearer by jamming a sharpened stick through the throat seals of his helmet lmao
Ciaphas Cain was able to hold his own against several CSM. It just kind of depends on the story, but he’s also pretty exceptional.
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Cain was exceptionally lucky and actually a very competent swordsman, he devoted a significant time to training and development of personal skills.
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>actually a very competent swordsman
He's the best in the sector or something, and hos swordsmanship is the one skill he constantly practices and it actually confident about
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He knew that it's melee where he would be most threatened because when the shooting started he would just keep his head down.
>An inquisitor killed a Blood thirster (a greater daemon) in the siege of Vraks.
I now it was because the greyknights were debuffing the greater daemon but the point stands inquisitora are great combatants.
Even if it doesn't have its special warp powers, it's still a forty foot tall, several ton beast of rage with likely thousands of years of fighting experience. Taking down any greater daemon is an impossible task which is why so many Space Marine captains and CM's have that as part of their backstory. It's no small feat.
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>Taking down any greater daemon is an impossible task
Except for the one dude who managed to kill about a dozen of them in one day single handedly
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Malum Caedo is a veteran which is also a pretty impressive feat among marines. He's also Doomguy.
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>One of your best Sorcerers capable of commanding countless Daemons including a fuck ton of Greater Daemons >Hundreds of Aspiring Champions and Terminators
I pity the bastard who had to give Abbadon that report
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who are the other characters outside the bolter guy?
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Slaanesh and Khorne and Alpharius on the weather channel.
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slaneesh is a woman? and why khorne is a rock?
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>slaneesh is a woman?
chud god born from chud aliens
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Slaanesh is most often depicted as feminine, but its gender isn't exactly definite.
The Eldar do tend to call it "she who thirsts"
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the urinal marines get to skip all conventional world building
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Malum Caedo is a veteran which is also a pretty impressive feat among marines. He's also Doomguy.
>Step aside gue'vesa, imma bout to make Khrone cum
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>Xenos >Mattering
Lmao go back to your cuckshed, gay.
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>Aight, let me just take care of that Bloodthirster problem for you first
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>this is the third best 40K fps due to lack of competition
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Fourth. You forgot Necromunda: Hired Gun.
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Fire Warrior must be kind of shit because Hired Gun was raw jank, fun jank but still jank
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I liked Deathwing
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i went into hired gun hoping for E.Y.E and only had myself to blame when i got disappointed
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Is Necromunda bad? As a fan of Kal Jericho I wanted to buy it
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NTA but I really enjoyed it. But then again, I loved Deathwing.
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its not bad, if you like looter shooters like borderlands its fine, its just after a while theres not much variety and i didnt see a reason to 100% it. everything else about it is fine except for that, its on sale now for 70% off so get it if you like necromunda i guess, the atmosphere and setting is pretty good for what its worth, and it does make you feel like a cool dude doing dirty jobs in the underhive
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It's jank but its' fun. It's HEAVILY flawed with glitches and bugs as well as just dumb shit like slow executions that lock you into place but don't make you invulnerable, lots of repetitive missions and Diablo loot. But the actual pure gameplay is fun with decent weapon variety and customisation that actually means something. Also the music fucking rocks
It's at least worth a pirate to try before you buy
>Darktide in second
Jesus Christ
How bad are the others?
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Warhammer FPS games are not very good. Boltgun is the only one I would call good. Darktide, Deathwing, and Necromunda are serviceable at best and you can probably reorder them in the middle interchangeably based on your preference. Fire Warrior is not a good game.
>Darktide that high
This is more of an indictment on the quality of 40K FPSs than it is a complement for Darktide
Darktide being #2 is a sad statement, yes.
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Well Deathwing AND Necromunda were made by Streum On studios (E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy), so they're pretty janky. Great environments though. >Pic related, Necromunda, that's a train.
The window above "Koloss" is the conductor's seat
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The Streum on games look so fucking good, it's a shame about the gameplay
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Honestly, for me, the gameplay is secondary to the environments. I'm not even a graphicsfag, but just getting to "be" in the Imperium as opposed to looking down on it from a bird's eye view is worth it. But I totally understand if that's not a good enough selling point. And I haven't beat Necromunda yet, so maybe my opinion will change if what
i liked the fuckhueg train mission, but it came at the cost of coming way too early, everything after that felt really underwhelming
says is true.
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i liked the fuckhueg train mission, but it came at the cost of coming way too early, everything after that felt really underwhelming
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The train level was fucking fun as fuck even if it had some awful encounters
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>Darktide that high
This is more of an indictment on the quality of 40K FPSs than it is a complement for Darktide
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And like I said an inquisitor took one down during the last stages of the siege of vraks. Killing a spacemarine is not outside of of the real of possibilities. Furthermore during the first Eisenhorn book, using the necrochuk to stun an emperor's children Eisenhorn is then able to behead him.
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>a named Inquisitor did X, therefore it makes all Inquisitors capable of X
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It makes some inquisitors capable of x.
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and there are many more marines capable of X. So that doesn't mean average inquisitor will kill average marine
Inquisitors have access to literally the most powerful weapons in the setting. If a Inquisitor was geared up, they could atomize an average Space Marine.
Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers, some of the most powerful psykers the Imperium can produce.
>Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers
No they're not
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>Potential Inquisitors are often drawn from the Progena (graduates) of the Schola Progenium who show the most promise in intellectual or psychic areas prized by the investigative arms of the Inquisition.
Technically its not a requirement, but most field-inquisitors are Psykers since they are most equipped to face the terrors from the Warp.
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The Schola Progenium is also where a lot of the Admirals and Generals of the Imperium come from, are they all Psykers too?
>Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers, some of the most powerful psykers the Imperium can produce.
This isn't true by any means. Inquisitors are as varied as the planets in the Imperium: Some are hundreds of years old, some in the blossom of youth; some are hardline Puritans who view the slightest transgression as worthy of summary execution, others borderline Radicals that use Deamonhosts to obliterate their enemies; some are Beta-level Psykers who command entire legions of mind-slaves, others are hulking roided-up monsters with 500 pounds of vatgrown muscle on their frames.
That's what makes 40k an interesting setting: Anything and everything you can image probably goes on within it. Saying that all Inquisitors are the same is like saying all the AdMech are the same; it's just false.
Just a correction, but not all Inquisitors are psykers. Though being a powerful psyker who isn’t insane or possessed can help with becoming an inquisitor.
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>who isn’t insane
That isn't really a prerequisite for being an inquisitor either
That's quite the bold and in all likelihood incorrect assumption: Power armor bros having like multiple backup organs and all kinds of combat/survival bullshit built into their very being. They're living extinction events to anything not even close to their level.
The point is an Inquisitor would actually never have to battle a Spess Muhreen into submission or whatever: Inquisitors are way beyond even Space Marines, the Emperor's blessed children, in ranking. Space Marines would just do whatever the Inquisitor told them (assuming it's not total bullshit or obvious Chaos influence in play) because that's what their duty to the Empire entails.
>Space Marines would just do whatever the Inquisitor told them
It depends on the inquisitor in question.
Each one technically holds the same amount of power but it all depends on how many resources he can actually pull together.
So basically an inquisitors power rests on how much clout he has with other imperials.
All authority is threat of violence. All authority not recognized is just violence or threat of violence, and need only be met with superior violence. Authority not submitted to loses all pretense of legitimacy immediately and is reduced to pure might makes right.
>Le power levels.
Your "Basic" inquisitor is a human being that goes around the Imperium and looks for threats to the Dominion depending on their Ordos. They have, like, 2 dudes that follow them around called Acolytes and have gun fights with bros using autoguns and stubbers. An Inquisitor lord like Erasmus or Coteaz could flatten your regular astartes but both of them have body piled Chaos Space Marines in the past.
But your "Average" inquisitor is a guy in a long coat with carapace armor carrying a bolt pistol and chainsword.
Would you say Amberley Vail is an average inquisitor? Because she had access to custom power armor and one of those displacement thingamajigs for avoiding damage and it was never treated like it's a big deal for her to have those
>Would you say Amberley Vail is an average inquisitor?
She's clearly not.
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Why not? I don't remember her status within the inquisition being brought up, but it's been a while since I've gone through the Cain books
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>Why not?
She's sane and does her job properly
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She's powerful enough to keep Jurgen(and Cain by extension) a powerful blank at her beck and call while keeping them flush with rejuvenation baths and porno for Jurgen for hundreds of years
Amberlay has also been around the block a few times and has earned all the shit she carries on her, she just hasn't achieved the rank of "Lord" for various reasons.
Remember that Eisenhorn of all people is still just an "Inquisitor" and that bro started his career with a stub pistol and a power sword. Amberlay doesn't even really have a battle-ready starship, she's going around in a yacht, the same kind Imperial nobles use.
Yeah, but even the most basic inquisitors go through gene modding to enhance their physical abilities and psycho hypno bullshit to make their brain work way faster.
Naw bro.
Just naw.
As a paypig that has run both the witch and deamon hunters splats before they were GK and SoB, this has never been true.
The justicars+ retained by the inquisitor can one-tap warbosses avatars and deamon-princes though.
The inquisitor isn't the problem, the inquisition is.
They have insane authority to root out corruption and warp fuckery, the only people that can 'easily' overrule inquisitors are other inquisitors as far as I know, but because of their "mission" other groups can have a tougher time going against their orders unless backed by similarly important person
To be fair, listing the banana boys is just unnecessary since their only objective is guarding the Emperor and nothing is more important than that, not even counting the fact that they're so far beyond pretty much everyone in might the inquisitor must be huffing the strongest copium in the universe to even consider fucking around and finding out
>Saint Basillius was an Imperial Saint. An enormously influential figure who rose out of the Ecclesiarchy purges of the Age of Redemption, Basillius commanded a "Puritas" division of Space Marines who eliminated those he deemed heretical or impure. In 321.M37, he declared thirty Space Marine Chapters' faith to be lacking, condemning them to the Abyssal Crusade in the Eye of Terror.
>In early M38, Chapter Master Konvak Lann of the Vorpal Swords led the survivors of the Crusade out of the Eye of Terror, having purged at least four hundred worlds. However the Chapter Master declared the now-ancient Saint Basillius to be a false idol who had in fact been an apostle of Chaos working against the Imperium. Worship of him was banned, his followers were massacred, and his remains and relics were loaded onto a freighter and launched into a nearby star.
Inquisitiors have tacit permission to do whatever the fuck they want so long as it doesn't contradict whatever the High Lords of Terra desire, direct word from a Primarch (good fucking luck getting that), or the literal will of the Emperor himself - which is something they tend to claim they're representatives of anyway.
Space Marines are superhuman soldiers who could be called "grandsons of the Emperor" since the DNA of their augmentations are derived from Primarch DNA, which itself was synthesized from the Emperor's own genomes, but the individual marine is just a soldier. And like all soldiers, they are subject to the politics of their government. In Warhammer 40k, the Imperial Cult rules all. Inquisitors, as the name suggests, are tasked with rooting out corruption, and as such are given broad leeway and ambiguous authority. Inquisitors can condemn entire worlds to the slaughter under suHispanicion of heresy, and have marine chapters branded as renegades. While an individual Chapter Master might have political pull on par with a Planetary Governor, the rot and corruption of the Imperium has put massive power into the hands of Inquisitors and their agents, mostly to the detriment of the galaxy at large.
The only ones above them are higher ranking Imperial Cult members, Navigator Houses, high ranking members of the secular Imperial government, and the Techpriests of Mars. The latter only get their own leeway because of the obscurantism surrounding their work, and their importance to the Imperium. Everyone else is just a tool to them. If it sounds wrong it's because on some level it's supposed to be, Warhammer 40k often satirizes fanatical theological societies.
Inquisitiors have tacit permission to do whatever the fuck they want so long as it doesn't contradict whatever the High Lords of Terra desire, direct word from a Primarch (good fucking luck getting that), or the literal will of the Emperor himself - which is something they tend to claim they're representatives of anyway.
Oh yeah, they also can't order around Custodes because those are the Emperor's personal guard.
The thing is, particularly assholish Inquisitors who try to lord over any of the other major groups tend to just disappear with little fanfare. So there's always the threat of them getting utterly fucked if they overreach.
Inquisitors actually do have the legal authority to boss the Custodes around, it's just that they generally aren't stupid enough to actually do it since it's an easy way to get branded a heretic by an inquisitor who doesn't like you. They instead tend to kind of politely ask the Custodes to help them and only when absolutely necessary.
No, Custodes only respond to the emperor and they explicitly said that. In any mayor incident to the empire, they stayed neutral until the emperor is really in danger.
The captain General of the custodes only returned to the high lords because the fall of cadia and Only now they are moving because Guilliman returned and even then some custodes have their opinions about how reckless the Primarch is.
Imagine being an Craftworld fan
Which sucks, because I like their aesthetic somewhat
I don't know way, but of the xeno novels, the eldar the least that I like, the orks and the necrons are fun, the tau have other perspective of the galaxy, GSC are meh, but the eldar are sometimes boring or uninteresting
One of the causes of the heresy was the Emperor putting normal humans into positions of power in the empire instead of Space Marines because he knew they were just weapons.
i forget if horus ever found out at any point what happened to the thunder warriors (funny because he had a literal thunder warrior survivor in his legion). if he knew the emperor purged them all he would 100% be justified in feeling he would do it again but with the space marines next
lol no.
First founding chapters can and do tell them to fuck off if they get too uppity, and if they try poking their nose into mechanicus business they will obfuscate to the point they get driven insane and/or assassinate them and hide behind the absolute clusterfuck of their organisation to get away with it
1. The Inquisition can challenge the authority of any Space Marine chapter, whether they choose to do so or let things slide out of prudence is another issue.
2. The Mechanicus is outside of the Inquisition's jurisdiction. Humanity is technically divided into two political entities, Terra, and Mars. The Imperium is the federation of these two states. The Mechanicus have their own internal policing.
They can boss around anyone part of Terra's administration as long as they can justify it as part of an investigation yes. Which Includes space marines and their masters.
They can but not everyone will listen to them. An Inquisitor has full right to walk into any given place and tell them what to do. However, if they value remaining alive and accomplishing their objective, they're better off doing some diplomacy and gathering allies and positive relations first.
their is nothing based about worshipping rogue ai as "machine spirits"
mankind is the thing with a soul and implying a machine is equal is heresy
its almost like saying a xeno is ok
the machanicus needs to be purged but unfortunately are our mechanics
their is nothing based about worshipping rogue ai as "machine spirits"
mankind is the thing with a soul and implying a machine is equal is heresy
its almost like saying a xeno is ok
the machanicus needs to be purged but unfortunately are our mechanics
Fleshcucks detected. Emotion cores are returning disgust.
That's kinda the point though, Inquisition can order First Founding chapters or the Black Templars, they wouldn't dare though, I mean what are they gonna do throw ork snipers against Fenris?
lol no.
First founding chapters can and do tell them to fuck off if they get too uppity, and if they try poking their nose into mechanicus business they will obfuscate to the point they get driven insane and/or assassinate them and hide behind the absolute clusterfuck of their organisation to get away with it
Technically the Inquisition's authority comes directly from the High Lords of Terra. TECHNICALLY they have authority over everyone. But this is the Imperium and the reality is that it is an endlessly complicated web of scheming factions and individuals wrestling for power and jurisdiction and nothing is black and white. For an inquisitor to try and challenge big shots in the Astartes, Mechanicus or Ministorum would probably be too much hassle but it very much depends on the situation, the degree of suspected heresy and the clout of the inquisitors and others involved. It's a setting after all. It is designed so that any scenario a player wants can theoretically happen.
It's about the who's got the biggest dick.
Inquisitors night have big swinging ones but there are plenty of others with even bigger ones, like the custards and the high lords
If i remember correctly they cant but it's in the astartes interests to not fuck with the inquisition because of the ammount of power they command, which is everyone but astartes and admechs.
You also have to remember that you both are part of the Inquisition and it's a bad look to say fuck off to an ally especially when she's bringing some pretty good information about Chaos corruption
if this hoe existed in 40k pre-2000 she would be a nameless woman used for breeding purposes.
Reading 40k lore written in the late 90s compared to modern day lore makes you realise how shit 40k is now.
Marines are the core of 40k. The Imperium and Chaos are the only factions that matter. Aliens have always been and will always be NPC factions who exist to be curb stomped.
GW had been trying to put out more shitty books from a xenos 'perspective' and they're all garbage, plus quite a few crappy psuedo-IG books. They need to just focus on Marines and IG.
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>more shitty books from a xenos 'perspective'
Which books? Orks got like two novels in the span of 5 or so years.
Meanwhile in the same timeframe we got the Siege, The minka lesk novels, dark imperium, dawn of fire, watchers of the throne, vaults of terra, new continuations to old series etc.
Xenos are still far outmatched by both fluff and model releases.
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Necrons and Tau got books. Necrons specifically got one that redditors adore and tout as being good.
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I liked Infinite and Divine, they went Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann at the end throwing black holes at each other.
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Anime gayry doesn't belong in 40k.
its been painfully obvious over the last 20 years that xenos exist solely as filler/to move the story along for the imperium/chaos. remember when the eldar got yvrainne and shit? who came back solely to revive guilliman. thats it, thats all they did, eldar got an update just to bring back fucking GUILLIMAN. nids (despite continually being touted as a big threat) are anything but considering they still do fuck all (so that chaos is always the bigger bad)
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necron books can be good because necrons can actually be interesting characters like trazyn, but characters like trazyn are the exception not the rule
Necrons were better as silent soulless killing machines, not le ebin whacky old robots.
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99% of necrons are still silent souless killing machines its only the leaders that still retain most of their personality, and out of all of them trazyn is the only one i would consider whacky. but considering orks as a faction are defined by whackiness i dont know if its fair to give them crap for that
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Orks weren't retconned into being wacky though, they were (more or less) always like that. The Necron retcon is like if DEldar got changed into being super chaste or humanitarian or something.
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>Necrons and Tau got books.
And? I specifically said in my lost that any xenos, or even chaos books are far, far outnumbered by imperium releases.
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Yeah but you also have stupid shit like 'Warhammer Crime', who gives a fuck about that shit? It's a waste of time and money doing books outside Marines, IG, and Chaos, and even then IG isn't really in the running.
99% of necrons are still silent souless killing machines its only the leaders that still retain most of their personality, and out of all of them trazyn is the only one i would consider whacky. but considering orks as a faction are defined by whackiness i dont know if its fair to give them crap for that
Orks are background NPCs who get slaughtered en masse when GW wants to fill time between Chaos canpaigns. Always have been, always will be, just like Nids.
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Why is it bad for them to experiment a little with their setting?
>Warhammer Crime
It's a good series tho. >It's a waste of time and money doing books outside Marines, IG, and Chaos,
Offensively retarded take
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>Offensively retarded take
There's a reason HH outsells practically any 40k series. Nobody gives a fuck about xenos being in stories. People love Marines.
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>Nobody gives a fuck about xenos being in stories.
Nobody gives a fuck because GW is stuck on a perpetual cycle of only hypimg marines, then being surprised that nobody buys anything else, and then hyping up marines because they sell the best, repeat as nauseam..
The proved with AoS that you can redeem a setting and that their marine expies aren't the lost popular faction in the game like marines are.
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>The proved with AoS that you can redeem a setting
Lmao no they fucking didn't. AoS is fucking garbage, the fact you think otherwise just exposes how terrible your taste is.
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Anonymous
AoS is still not NEARLY as good as fantasy was in its heyday but it sure is much better than whatever shitshow it was at launch.
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They turned a franchise known for being Dark Fantasy and turned it into shitty cosmic slop about 'muh realms'. AoS will never be good.
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At least Fantasy died before GW raped it's corpse and pozzed it to the extreme.
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>before GW raped it's corpse
Never heard of the End Times i take it?
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>Never heard of the End Times i take it?
Hey, the thing about the End Times is that after the embarrassment that was the Storm of Chaos, GeeDubs can insist as much as they want about their super cereal setting ending that's shit, but it will never be anything more than corporate pulling the plug
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>it took them this long to make cities of sigmar an actually cool looking faction and not just old fantasy stock
too little too fucking late
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No amount of bolter porn will make Black Library matter to GW's bottom line, so who cares
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Anonymous
It's been 20 years, let go of oldcrons. Matter as well as for Obi-Wan Closseau back
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its been painfully obvious over the last 20 years that xenos exist solely as filler/to move the story along for the imperium/chaos. remember when the eldar got yvrainne and shit? who came back solely to revive guilliman. thats it, thats all they did, eldar got an update just to bring back fucking GUILLIMAN. nids (despite continually being touted as a big threat) are anything but considering they still do fuck all (so that chaos is always the bigger bad)
Necrons and Tau got books. Necrons specifically got one that redditors adore and tout as being good.
necron books can be good because necrons can actually be interesting characters like trazyn, but characters like trazyn are the exception not the rule
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Anonymous
>nids (despite continually being touted as a big threat) are anything but considering they still do fuck all (so that chaos is always the bigger bad)
Immagine, the nids finally break into segmentum solar, maybe even reach the solar system. Terra is in real danger again after thousands of years. An epic battle commences to defend the planet and the emperor. After blood sweat and tears the tyrannids are beaten back. Then fucking Abbadon appears to explain how this was also part of his chaotic master plan and yadi yada more chaos wank.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
part of me feels nids got it worse than tau in the missed opportunity department. nids are this hyper deadly threat closing in on the galaxy like a noose but they still get beaten back with ease when it comes to shit like baal
Why is it bad for them to experiment a little with their setting?
>Warhammer Crime
It's a good series tho. >It's a waste of time and money doing books outside Marines, IG, and Chaos,
Offensively retarded take
i like 'normalish 40k setting' in a hive fleet with shit like a killer running around, i liked that bit in the HH book about the assassins meant to try kill horus
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>with ease when it comes to shit like baal
The mods were by no means defeated with ease at Baal.
The Blood angels got like half their gene line exterminated, lost one of their recruiting worlds, and leviathan wasn't even properly defeated.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
baal should have been eaten bro
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Baal almost did, ironically Khorne saved their asses.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I mean, they can't really make the tyrannids into this unstoppable all consuming force they're hyped up to be for multiple reasons. First of all people don't want to see their faction get curbstomped into the dirt by nids in every canonical encounter. Second of all then what would be the point of the setting if the nids are destined to win anyway. 40k always had this speck of hope lingering in the background even in the darkest times. Also they're already being portrayed as ultimately unstoppable because every victory is being brushed aside as "uh it was ackshually just a tendrill of the main hivefleet lol". But if you want to be a nid fanboy you could just headcanon that they're still only just scouting forces. (even leviathan)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's what happens when your factions most notable character is a monster missing an eye
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>red terror is just a ravener >but red
could at least give the hivemind itself some character, didnt that one ultramarine librarian connect with it for a hot minute and somehow didnt die/lose his mind
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The hive mind has some character. It really, really fucking hates the Blood Angels and went out of its way to turn its swarms towards Baal.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>psuedo-IG books
What the fuck are you talking about?
I often hear autists talk about shit like this happening in their grimdark fanon lore of various settings but the only game I can think of that actually does it is Grim Dawn.
The inquisitor has the legal authority. Spess muhreens have enough military power to consider disobeying that authority, if they disagree enough with said Inquisitor. Especially if that inquisitor can be KIA with no witnesses able or willing to call you out.
If you've ever played Inquisitor Martyr, you see this when you rescue the space marine Caius Thorn. He disobeys you and rushes a Khorne-infested Stormwatcher outpost You have the option to kill him afterwards but decide not to because of the benefit of having a space marine in your crew.
In theory yes, the only people Inquisitors aren't allowed to "boss around" are the Custodes. Everyone else, from others Inquisitors to the High Lords of Terra, are fair game.
In practice Inquisitors function with a reputation system and trying to boss around bigshots and other colleagues carry the risk of turning around and finding out all your supporters have, at best, left you all alone and at worst are actively calling YOU the heretic and making sure they have the Inquisition's support to hunt you down.
Space Marines are supposed to obey the Inquisition the same as everyone else, some chapters are close to the Inquisition and have fruitful partnerships (most notably : the Grey Knights), some dislike the Inquisition's method of scorched earth and will try to wiggle out of their summons, and even oppose the Inquisition (see: the Space Wolves). Generally speaking both organisations don't like each other but will work together well enough.
Inquisitors have basically unmatched authority off of Terra. They can do whatever the fuck they want and their word is law by writ. However, they also operate kind of like Rogue Traders in that while they have nearly infinite appointed power, not everyone respects said power. Thus an Inquisitor may have issues dealing with non-fanatical forces alone and thus need allies.
However when it comes to Space Marines, with a few exceptions, yeah they can basically tell them to do whatever the fuck they want.
Inquisitors, unlike Rogue Traders, actually have to report to someone. So while they can technically do almost anything, there are consequences for doing so.
Rogue Traders also do technically have consequences for fucking around in the fashion that Rogue Traders do. While Rogue Traders have the right to do whatever the fuck they want to obtain their goals on the frontier, there's a chance they can piss off the wrong people in doing so. If an Ordos Xenos inquisitor finds out about an RT's eldar waifu or Ork mercenary crew or fancy alien gun, they're going to be in for some questions. That's why a smart RT stays the absolute fuck away from the Inquisition.
Inquisitors have three different sects and report to high inquisitors. To add inquisitors also investigate other inquisitors and there's an entire checks and balances on every inquisitor because inquisitors check other inquisitors.
It's really not a big deal unless the inquisitor itself is corrupted. It's not like they will tell you to get on your knees and suck their dick. If they did they'd get btfo by another inquisitor.
Kind of. Inquisitors do have authority over marines and can even order their excommunication if they so will it. However not every chapter respects an inquisitor's authority and as
The inquisitor has the legal authority. Spess muhreens have enough military power to consider disobeying that authority, if they disagree enough with said Inquisitor. Especially if that inquisitor can be KIA with no witnesses able or willing to call you out.
said, it's doubtful anyone would notice a lone inquisitor disappearing one day due to combat or a warp drive malfunction. Thus a smart inquisitor does some politicking, chooses their battles wisely, and makes friends instead of just waving their dick around.
Inquisitors have authority to do basically anything as long as they can justify it as part of an investigation.
The amount of freedom they have also means that a large amount of what they do is investigate each other, as falling to chaos is easy when you spend your life chasing it.
I wish I could go back and finish this game. At some point in between asking me to go through interchangable missions while farming seeds to kill the reapers I just gave up since it kept cycling through the same four enemy types and I got bored going through the same motions of flamethrower fucks everything.
They did but the inquisition fucked them over so hard they regret it to this day. The only ones that got away with murdering inquisitors are the dark angels.
>DA keep killing loyal members of the imperium and innocent people to keep the knowledge of the fallen secret >Their Primarch finally returns to them >He has gathered the Fallen to him as his personal bodyguard
Awkward.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
to be fair the Fallen were basically living in the Imperium as Mercs or Space Pirates. The ones who believe in Luther usually are chaos fuckers now. Shit, most of the Fallen apparently were part of Big E's Crusade so when their Primarch says they cool, others usually would stfu and accept it. And Lion isn't really the guy you'd want to fuck over with.
The inquisitor never existed and it was such a shame to hear about his assassination by ork sniper, also the inquisition shouldn't try to search the DA's computer's again.
Went down like this >Inquisitor wanted to kill the survivors from Armageddon >Space Wolves told him to piss off since that's stupid, take on the refugees to protect then >Inquisitor orders Grey Knights to open fire on the Wolves >Grey Knights do and cripple a few ships, several escape >None of the SW ships shot back, making the GKs really uncomfortable with their actions >Inquisitor then demands that all planets the refugees land on have to be purged >This gets attention from the rest of the Inquisition, many of whom immediately start to call him out or investigate him >He still waves around inquisitorial rights since he's standjng behind several squads of Grey Knights, who all begin to swiftly realize they're not in the right as the 'battles' continue and thw wolves continue to not shoot back >Inquisitor eventually demands that Fenris itself be brought to heel and leads his fleet there >With help from other Inquisitors, who have come to the conclusions that the purge leader is either insane or a heretic, Logan Grimnar teleports to the bridge of the lead vessel and assassinates the Inquisitor >Grey Knights issue a formal apology and rename the event to the 'Months of Shame' for their misled actions
Is this from that Rogue Trader game? In short, yes and no. Theoretically, they have oversight over anyone depending on their rank such as a Lord Inquisitor. The only case would be Rogue Traders with a writ of trade signed by the Emperor or Guilliman, or otherwise lesser writ but the Rogue Traders is an Inquisitor themself.
You have to create your own mini community around the older editions and enforce gatekeeping
Only play using the older rules.
Be strict about homebrew.
Make the game the focus and not the roleplay.
If you do it this way, you can kick women, gays, trannies and weirdo leftist men from the group without having to explicitly ban them.
Make the enjoyment of the tabletop experience be about the game and not what the geek zoomers want it to be, it naturally filters them out.
Go to any of the subreddits where posts are asking players about bad dm's/player experiences, take those notes and make a community around embracing that exact type of mindset that the redditors hate.
When they bitch that the game isn't fun for them, you've won, they are filtering themselves and will probably just won't come back for the next session.
Never concern yourself with the opinions of fake fans and tourists.
As long as you are true to the origins of the tabletop experience, there will be nerds who will want to play it with you.
no. they can ask them to do shit but if they get uppity marines can just kill them and cover it up or in the case of space wolves just openly kill them.
Honestly, I'm just amazed the Lion has had actual character progression.
Almost makes me think Lemon might not be an absolute raging moron of the type who does more damage to his own cause than his enemy when he inevitably comes back.
Guilliman and Yvraine had like a single conversation and then it went back to the usual business of "Eldar lose at everything".
Leman's in the Warp looking for the "Tree of Life", which is heavily theorized to be Isha, the Eldar God of Life who's imprisoned in Nurgle's Garden. Isha also happens to be the literal mother of the Eldar race.
No, Rogue Trader houses with Emperor-signed writs don't have to answer to him, and he admitted his. Guilliman put out the call to convene the houses after that new rift opened up, and during it he was happy so many showed up, but he thinks to himself the only reason so many answered was because, essentially, it was new and exciting, him and the rift.
Rogue Traders are in a weird legal space where they technically answer to no one but are also surrounded by other people with "absolute authority" who can kill them if they wish. It's fitting for the absolute clusterfuck that is the governmental administration of the Imperium. Everyone is in charge, no one answers to anyone, and they all have opposing goals. It's basically legalized space tribalism.
And then the Imperium collapses due to no trade. Rogue Traders hold the most political power in 40k, unironically. Prior to Guilliman returning, the person with the most power projection would be a Lord Inquisitor Rogue Trader with a writ signed by the Emperor.
Not really. Inquisitors have jurisdiction on chaos matters but they're only going to treat the Imperial Guard like shit, not spess marines. That usually takes more of a diplomatic approach.
That said, if Inquisitors ask some passing marines to play some heretics to hell, very unlikely that Space Marines are going to say no, either.
Inquisition have jurisdiction over all internal security matters, Ordo Xenos deal with aliens and Ordo hereticus deal with traitors. Inquisitors can also cross specialise, so an Ordo Xenos inquisitor who comes across a Chaos plot might still tackle that problem. there's no real restrictions on what inquisitors can do as long as they dont cross into heresy themselves.
Grey Knights are part of the Inquisition and it was an emergency, but she gets constantly shit on by the Grandmaster and your Second in Command. Beyond the initial contact she has pretty much no power and in fact is put under your own command
>militaristic organization
Inquisition and Space Marines are different organizations. Space Marines are almost completely separated from Imperium in most things
Avery big branch of the inquisitors get to boss one branch of the military. Ordo Hereticus gets the Sororitas, Xenos get the Death watch (Marines) and Malleus get the Greyknights (super anti daemons marines). This doesn't always goes well for the inquisitor however, even if he is owed the right of deputizing one of the branches an inquisitor would to well not to overstep lest he disappears in less than friendly circumstances.
Proper HH game when? SM2 is dragged down by shitty Tyranids and Thousand Fags, Darktide had potential and screwed it all up, and Rogue Trader is pozzed.
This is probably the only true scale space marine cosplay I've seen that doesn't look like absolute shit. I bet it does look like shit in motion however. Why don't people ever just make space marine armor to fit themselves? You're going to be short but at least you'll have functional knees. You never see spartan cosplayers on fucking stilts.
Anyone have that /tg/ screencap of the guy who got pulled over for speeding and the cop let him go when he flashed an Inquistorial badge he happened to have on him at the time?
the only reason the celestial lions werent completely purged by a petty inquisitor is because big dick grimaldus told the inquisition to fuck off and leave them alone
An Inquisitor's authority is backed up by the violence they are capable of bringing down on others, and in particular circumstances, the violence they can call the Inquisition itself to bring down on others. Their authority, like all authority, relies on intimidation.
Space Marines have a very high capacity for violence and plenty of firepower themselves. Meaning that while nominally an Inquisitor has authority to order them around, special circumstances are going to have to be at play to force a group of Space Marines to submit to the authority of an Inquisitor.
inquisitors have the power to declare your entire chapter kill on sight, by everyone, not even just the inquisition forces, so its best to just not fuck with them if you can help it
>inquisitors have the power to declare your entire chapter kill
Yeah and then he gets anally probed by other inquisitors to see if he's telling the truth, and if he is the order goes through.
Like how that one inquisitor tried to exterminate the space wolves, but after he got killed the other inquisitors realised to stop being retarded.
And the Space Marine chapter has the power to literally murder the Inquisitor, burn their body, and answer any further inquiries with "lol idk, they took off in their ship. Must have been lost in the warp or something."
There is plenty of politicking at play. It's not like the Inquisition itself is generally interested in going to war with a chapter of Space Marines if they don't absolutely have to.
Then you get called up by the high inquisitor, and investigated by 50 other inquisitors trying to figure out why you just called to decimate extremely valuable soldiers showing no form of taint.
>space marine chapter aided a heretic >ordered to death
In what way does that equal an inquisitor ordering your chapter to die because you pissed them off?
The Flame Falcons got fucked over by the Inquisition because they looked different(and couldn't be burned by fire). Doesn't take much to be declared traitor
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This has nothing to do with pissing them off. They cannot just give orders to purge you because you call them ugly.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They cannot just give orders to purge you because you call them ugly.
I don't think any chapter has had the balls to call an inquisitor ugly.
The Marines Malevolent are the only chapter that comes to mind whose survived pissing off with the Adeptus Mechanicus(kept looting their ships and Inquistion(didn't like that they kept killing civilians) and are still limping around.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
While the Inquisition was foolish to exterminate the Flame Falcons for manifesting blessings of the Emperor, randomly and spontaneously bursting into holy flames is still a bit more than "they didn't like how they looked" lel
>>get to do as many war crimes as you can think of, no one can do shit about it
There's entire factions with this shtick, the TW weren't unique in that regard.
Just watch M D Geist. It was even called "Thunder Warrior" in the US release, kek. He literally is what I think Thunder Warriors were, just not to scale physically.
I've always thought of him more of a Blackadder who keeps his sarcastic remarks to himself. Plus Jurgen is the spitting image of Baldrick if he was hyper competent
thats why sharpe battles are at most 20 extras on either side awkwardly shooting at eachother and you're supposed to believe theres hundreds of guys there
thats why sharpe battles are at most 20 extras on either side awkwardly shooting at eachother and you're supposed to believe theres hundreds of guys there
Is it better written that Sharpe?
I actually liked the show more, I dunno Cornwell is just dry when not describing huge battles
Sharpe, but IN SPACE
i never even made the connection before but you're genuinely 100% correct now if only the plastic gaunts ghosts werent so fucking overpriced
Upon sighting Sharpe posts, I naturally gave the order to ritualpost.
That's my style sir.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
*clears throat*
The fault was not mine Primarch! The Rubric Marines must answer!
Simmersonmind
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And did any Anon distinguish himself?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lieutenant Anon led the shitposting, sir. You may say that he is tied to me by blood. But is it a tie of blood to tie my tongue and rob a brave man of his just dubs? No sir.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And Lieutenant Janny?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
..Major Janny 's reports differ somewhat.
Major Janny says you lost your head and failed to get digits.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The fault was not mine, sir. Major Anon must answer.
>Is it better written that Sharpe?
Ehh, I haven't read more than few Gaunt books but imo it's about the same. >I dunno Cornwell is just dry when not describing huge battles
I agree, the books are standard and fun adventures but when there's a big battle I don't think that anyone writes them as well as Cornwell does, Waterloo was so fucking good .
>Psychic powers bad! We should hang Magnus! I heard there were mutant scum in his legion too! >What about all the psykers and mutant wolfmen in your legion? >Doesn't count
What the fuck was his problem? I think considering the Emperor was a psyker, he should have taken that as an insult and a challenge and broken both of Russ' legs there and then, maybe that dour little unwashed fuckstain Mortarion too! There is literally and unironically nothing wrong with a trained Astartes using their psyker abilities or claiming and studying arcane artifacts and texts!
>hey, magnus, my son, you got some space magic stuff, real neat, anyways stop. no i wont elaborate on the dangers of it in any way despite you only ever using it to aid the imperium up to and including trying to warn about erebus being a fucking cunt. anyways the space wolves are gonna go wipe you the fuck out, including their own notpsykers
99% of HH could have been avoided if the emperor just had the slightest bit of trust in his sons
The Emperor explicitly built some sick ass personalized bedrooms for the Primarchs to live in in the palace after the Great Crusade ended. This is not the actions of a man who built some tools with the purpose of disposing of them when their use ended.
The Emperor's characterization is all kinds of fucked up because whenever we see him in a book, he is appearing to a character exactly as he wants the character to see him. ie if he's talking to science man, he appears as embodiment of amoral all rational science Emperor for that scene.
The Emperor explicitly built some sick ass personalized bedrooms for the Primarchs to live in in the palace after the Great Crusade ended. This is not the actions of a man who built some tools with the purpose of disposing of them when their use ended.
The Emperor's characterization is all kinds of fucked up because whenever we see him in a book, he is appearing to a character exactly as he wants the character to see him. ie if he's talking to science man, he appears as embodiment of amoral all rational science Emperor for that scene.
One of the previous writers who unfortunately was there while writing a lot of the Horus Heresy books decided to work out his father issues by making the Emperor a dick. Since he left GW have started to walk back on that.
>hey son, you know that fucking weird voice you made a pact with to stop your guys mutating and as a result your eye vanished? Yeah that entire scenario was retarded, stop fucking about with magic, I'm gonna go work on saving humanity by building this house of cards >you used magic and the voice convinced you that you should use the house of cards knocking over spell to come talk to me instead of just driving here, that was dense and my plans are in ruins. I'm sending my furry son to come collect you so I can give you the I'm not mad, just disappointed speech >my bald son who is jealous of my impeccable flowing locks convinced the furry to go full murder purge. Fuck, this is the opposite of my command.
Secret imperial police who uphold the empire and root out heresy at any cost, usually by abusing their powers of being able to say 'my word is the emperor's gay'
you give them way too much credit, they're literally just soviet commissars, its in the name. they're there to shoot any deserters/traitors and keep morale high if only by threat of death
Short answer: No
Longer answer: Depends on the Chapter and situation. Chapters who pissed off the inquisition in the past tended to get in trouble one way or another,so even tho they are their own independent branch, thry tend to just go along with it.
PLEASE SELECT YOUR CHARACTER >It's another online flowchart Girlyman >It's another piece of shit Perty player abusing super armor >It's another Omegon tag out on low health to full health Alpharius
Balance your fucking game and buff the Khan you incompetent retards, give him back his fucking infinite, if you're dumb enough to let him mount up you deserve to die.
Bro shut the fuck up, Guilliman literally got resurrected in the middle of Nurgle's Garden.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>noooo resurrecting is only ok when MY faction does it!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Phoenix Lords are view with horror by many Eldar due to the nature of their 'resurrection' and their state of effective un-life, but even then are able to be killed forever if slain by a Daemon, or be condemned to eternal stasis if their armor is lost. >Meanwhile it takes Mortarion knee deep in Nurgle's swamp to kill Guilliman, who then immediately gets back up with no problems and burns down half of the Garden
Yeah man Phoenix Lords are totally as bad as Primarchs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Phoenix Lords are view with horror by many Eldar due to the nature of their 'resurrection' and their state of effective un-life, but even then are able to be killed forever if slain by a Daemon, or be condemned to eternal stasis if their armor is lost. >Meanwhile it takes Mortarion knee deep in Nurgle's swamp to kill Guilliman, who then immediately gets back up with no problems and burns down half of the Garden
Yeah man Phoenix Lords are totally as bad as Primarchs.
The original Phoenix Lord was at ground zero of Slaneesh's birth and the opening of the Eye of Terror and survived that because he just did ok and that was when he was just a normal Eldar.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No he wasn't, the planet he was on was just one of the worlds that became a Crone World.
Jain Zar's book states that one in every 10,000 Eldar on the planet survived, and it slowly began to fall apart more afterwards.
So a friend of mine gifted me his copy of The founding, a gaunt's ghost omnibus, I'm enjoying it and bought the 2nd part, another friend suggested the hero of the imperium book.
What else should I buy?
Hero of the Imperium is one of the Ciaphas Cain Omnibus' right? What Cain I've read has been good, so that's a good choice.
I haven't read Gaunt's Ghosts, so idk how to reccomend similar books, I'll just go from what I've read, both literally and as recommendation picks.
Eisenhorn Trilogy for Inquisitors, Helsreach for the Black Templars, the Space Marine Chapter.
The first 3 Horus Heresy books are a continuous story, and the first 2 are solid (I just started 3). It's fun experiencing the hopeful Imperium before the fall.
And whatever you do make you DON"T to go /t/ or /tg/ and find the Black Library collection torrent, definitely DO NOT download that many ebooks for free, that's bad and wrong.
Do you know where I can find the comics like Bloodquest, Damnation Crusade or Reedeemer I found only one site with them but I would rather not get a virus
I got Bloodquest & The Redeemer (not sure if it's the same series) from the trove, I'm not sure if it's still up though.
https://archiveofsins.com/t/thread/942337/#949787
My favorite example of this is when an Inquisitor declared the Brazen Drakes chapter heretics, sending a message to the fleet that was bringing them Primaris reinforcements. The Custodes in charge orders the Primaris Drakes to be arrested, and they refuse, leading to them being purged. Some marinefags are still pissed about that to this day.
Vakir is an inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus, basically the Inquisition arm that deals with demonic incursions and shit like that. The Grey Knights are the "Chamber Militant" of the Ordo Malleus, basically meaning their the military arm of that part of the inquisition. As an inquisitor of her stature, I.E she runs her own fucking operation, Vakir has the power to call upon the Grey Knights to aid her when the need arises.
Considering Vakir was dealing with a Nurgle invasion that was eating an entire star system, that was a pretty serious "Need".
Its the same with the Deathwatch, who are the chamber militant of the Ordo Xenos, if an Xenos Inquisitor said "Fuck, Genestealers, get over here." They would do it.
The same goes for the Frateris Militia and the Ordo Hereticus.
Its already mainstream, or at least the media is. The game itself is harder to get into because its expensive, requires time, and still has that stigma about being a nerd hobby. Like, yeah, nerd shit is mainstream, but actual nerds are still despised entirely.
They have a certain amount of clout to use, yes.
If they go overboard then another, bigger inquisitor will come and dunk on them. If THAT inquisitor goes overboard then a second bigger inquisitor will come to dunk on him.
The Imperium is held together mostly because everything outside of the Imperium is more of a threat than the other guys inside of the Imperium. It's a delicate balance and no one faction wants to be the one to fuck it up.
So what's the deal with the Inquisition anyway?
As an organization they're beyond even the Lords of Terra, but an Inquisitor can only be appointed by other Inquisitors, so they're just a small cabal of psychopaths with zero oversight that roam around the galaxy doing not helping with the war, the administration or anything beyond hunting heretics?
They're not beyond the High Lords of Terra, one of which represents the Inquisitors. There are 3 main orders (Malleus, Xenos, Hereticus) and a bunch of additional minor ones. There are also a bunch of sub factions within depending on their beliefs, how they organize and conduct themselves.
Mostly the checks to renegade Inquisitors is other Inquisitors, either hunting him down directly or going "yeah sure just kill them we don't care" to other factions.
Technically they are below the High Lords. In fact, one High Lord is the Inquisitorial High Lord.
So, they all answer to him, in some way or another, and are blessed by him and his authority.
But if, say, the High Lord of the Mechanicus told a direct subordinate to do something pseudo-heretical to technology, then the Inquisition might not have sway over this.
After all, they both get their political and legal authority from a High Lord.
So, it gets fuzzy around the edges.
Every High Lord (barring the Lord Commander Militant of the Astra Militarum) if very willing to give their clout away to their underlings in judicious amounts. High Lords tells underlings to do thanks that step on toes of other High Lords and on and on forever.
It's a bureaucratic clusterfuck a million planets wide.
That said, Inquisitors generally outrank everyone else due to the fact that they're all DIRECTLY under their specific High Lord, not given orders that came down the chain of command.
If they want something done, they have the right of way, and the political clout and militant might to back it up, 98% of the time.
To clarify, most other sections of the High Lord Table's influence wane over time. The 2nd in command gets a mandate, the 3rd in line gets a decree, the 4th and order, the 5th a request, and so on and so on.
The Inquisition is not like that. Every. Single. Inquisitor. Is treated as though a High Lord told them to do whatever they're doing.
While that might be an issue in most cases, the Inquisition has a way around it.
Every Ordo of the Inquisition takes care of its own self-governance, up to and including trying, torturing, execution, and fixing anything a wayward inquisitor may have done.
A good example is Inquisitor Kryptman, who burned over two dozen worlds to cinders to stop the Tyranids from getting food.
He acted with full authority, did the deeds, killed his billions, and was tried for it. In the end, while it was decided he did the right thing, in a very vague sense of the word, they didn't want him to have that power, and stripped him of his titles and authority.
There was no time the High Lord of the Echilsiarchy could butt in and demand justice, and the Inquisition had already done it. Kryptman in nearly unique in the fact he wasn't executed for something so serious, but he's a named character so they tend to get away with that in the 40K lore.
>Shadow in the warp then prevents you from escaping and the nid ships devour you alive
Whoops
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
More realistically, you transport the mega-meltas to the surface with a suicide cadre assigned to each one, then get your ships out of dodge before the bad bugs arrive.
But it's still risky, nids are cunning predators & might manage to discover & take out the bombs (lictor assasins and genestealer cults pose a real threat to your suicide bombers) Also the nids won't commit a lot of ground forces unless they're encountering meaningful resistance, (soft targets get peppered with weak units & tyrranified wildlife & left to cook for a few months, since anything good you send down short of a Tyrant is coming back up as goop) so you need to defend the planet & use the bombs as a fallible last resort, or just not bother.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Naw.
Set that shit on a time, and also give a second activation to the planetary governor.
"In case of planet deemed lost and you desire evacuation for you and your court, activate this beacon in a defensible location. Agents will be en route within the hour.
Evacuation will only take place if you have a live specimen of the new breed of Xenos. Failure will have my agents' transport leave without you."
Just in case my timer was too long, he can panic-blow it early.
Worst-case scenario, he blows it before the nids get to the planet when he pussies out. Planet is still molten rock and ash in the end.
>nearly unique in the fact he wasn't executed
Thing is, Kryptman displayed neither incompetence nor disloyalty. The billions he killed were doomed & by preemptively purging them Kryptman significantly weakened the xenos incursion.
Imperial leaders make absurd (to us) 'acceptable losses' sacrificial moves all the time. That Kryptman was punished at all speaks to the enormity of his actions: the imperium wanted to give its most senior servants a rare reminder that you do actually need to preserve something in order to make a sacrifice worthwhile, otherwise it's just spite.
You're are the best of the schola or you become a prosecutor (I think that's the rank) and wait for your inquisitor boss dies.
The series "vaults of terra" explains a little jow the Inquisition works:
The inquisitor have the power of the emperor, meaning that they can invastigate anyone, even the high lords, but that's like any third world country denouncing a first country to the ONU.
Technically all inquisitor have the same ability and power to investigate, but the resources that each one posses varies, so is not advisable for a ordo malleus inquisitor with a routine of 1000 humans, fully armed and other things, investigate a leader of the most advanced planets on the imperium, a leader of the armies and ship or even a college that is in the high lord position and has centuries of experience, resources and secrets at his disposition.
lolno but the inquisitor can do some damage by accusing the chapter of heresy which will take time to sort out so it's usually better not to piss them off.
Has an inquisitor ever gotten rightfully convicted for exterminatusing a world? The way the games make it seem is that if there's even 1 cultist that they can't catch or kill then it's justified.
To clarify, most other sections of the High Lord Table's influence wane over time. The 2nd in command gets a mandate, the 3rd in line gets a decree, the 4th and order, the 5th a request, and so on and so on.
The Inquisition is not like that. Every. Single. Inquisitor. Is treated as though a High Lord told them to do whatever they're doing.
While that might be an issue in most cases, the Inquisition has a way around it.
Every Ordo of the Inquisition takes care of its own self-governance, up to and including trying, torturing, execution, and fixing anything a wayward inquisitor may have done.
A good example is Inquisitor Kryptman, who burned over two dozen worlds to cinders to stop the Tyranids from getting food.
He acted with full authority, did the deeds, killed his billions, and was tried for it. In the end, while it was decided he did the right thing, in a very vague sense of the word, they didn't want him to have that power, and stripped him of his titles and authority.
There was no time the High Lord of the Echilsiarchy could butt in and demand justice, and the Inquisition had already done it. Kryptman in nearly unique in the fact he wasn't executed for something so serious, but he's a named character so they tend to get away with that in the 40K lore.
He didn't get rightfully convicted, it was more like getting fired because you are too competent a your job and your boss has a massive ego. I am referring to one calling for an exterminatus then finding out whoops, it was unnecessary.
So Lionel woke up and pardoned all the fallen who didn't turn to chaos, couple of questions >what's dark angels schtick now they don't have the unforgiven dark secret shit? >did whatsisface come back? Lionel's dad? What about cypher? >did they tell him about the cells full of loyalists who found out the truth they have locked up?
So wat are the Traitor primarchs up to? >> Angron is fighting The Lion i think (didn't read Arks of Omen)
is creating his nerd paradise in Prospero after attacking fenris.
greeted Roboto after Awakening.
is getting spanked be Nurgle after the plague wars disaster.
is doing??? >>is lorgar still hiding from corvus?
Did any book or rulebook said something about them? Apart from Angron and mortarion.
>Angron is fighting the lion >Mortarion is getting the belt >Magnus is trying to build his wizard kingdom >Fulgrim is to busy crying after getting dabbed on by rylanor >Perturabo is too busy building legos or something >Lorgar is hiding from Corvus in his cuck tower >Konrad is dead >Horus is Mega Dead >Alpharius is Omegon
is to busy crying after getting dabbed on by rylanor
Old news. Fulgrim's currently on the galaxy's most violent pub crawl across Imperium Nihulus, annoying Abaddon to no end.
He found himself in a large chamber, colourful mosaic underfoot, the walls covered with fresh murals, white vaulted ceiling and domes far above. Part of the Templum Inficio. He had no time for his surroundings, eyes drawn back to the gate.
Shrieking, the raven flock scratched and pecked, but they could not pass the warp barrier.
Lorgar glared at the apparition on the far side, chest heaving as though out of breath, his head crowned with a halo of black warp fronds.
Corax assumed his mortal shape again, one cheek bloodied and bruised, his eye almost closed.
'I have your scent now, Lorgar,' growled the Ravenlord. His face contorted with monstrous rage. 'I will find you, Lorgar! I will destroy you and every vessel you have filled with your taint!'
Lorgar staggered away and the portal arch fell dull, leaving only bare stone within its pillars.
'We can assemble a force and return, our lord,' said Marduk, hurrying after the primarch.
Their entreaties continued as they followed Lorgar through the corridors and halls, heading towards the centre of the grand construction spreading across their new capital on Sicarus. Stairs took them high, to the tower at the heart of everything. Black doors opened at Lorgar's approach and he strode within, no word uttered, no backward glance.
With a noise that echoed in Kalta-Ar's soul as much as his ears, the doors slammed shut, leaving him and Marduk on the threshold. There was no handle, no keyhole, nothing by which they might open the edifice.
A white Colchisian rune burned into life upon the door, and another.
'Deny fate,' read Kalta-Ar. He turned to the first acolyte. 'What does that mean?'
Others were hurrying from the surrounding cloisters, demanding to know what had happened.
'What does this herald?' asked one of the approaching Word Bearers.
'We wait for his return,' replied Marduk. 'Until then, the great work must continue.'
Yeah, and Corax hunting down Lorgar is considered a myth by the Word Bearers in 40k, not to mention Lorgar has left the tower and is leading armies now. Clearly Corax didn't have much of an effect on him.
>Corax was the only loyalist primarch to still uphold the Edict of Nikaea in the middle of the Heresy
corax was a moron
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He's an emo bird what do you expect
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He also exiled the IG regiment that had saved him and the RG at Istvaan
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Rogal Dorn didn't even integrate his librarians back into line troops, he banished them into a room on the Phalanx until the middle of the Siege of Terra.
Corax at least had them out doing shit while forbidding them from doing psyker business.
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Corax let his psykers use their psychic powers, as every other loyalist primarch did once they realized what they were up against. But then he changed his mind and was going to remove his librarians again. He ended up banishing his chief librarian to go to Terra, where he became one of the first Grey Knights
you're right, they're not very raven guard however they're not world eaters ether. >recruits from prisoners >uses terror tactics >even night lords say they have uncanny similarities to themselves
Depends on the marine, Inquisitor, chapter and how badly the marine wants to tell them to fuck off, sure you might be able to ignore the Inquisitor in some cases if you're some high up guy but is it worth the drama it might bring.
What if an entire chapter decides they don't want to do this shit anymore? They spend their days making fun of wagies on 40000chan. Do they instantly become baby eating chaostards?
>What if an entire chapter decides they don't want to do this shit anymore?
Then this gentleman shows up to politely remind them to get the fuck back in line.
>What if an entire chapter decides they don't want to do this shit anymore?
The Blood Gorgons dropped everything one day and decided they wanted to be pirates. After they got kicked off their homeworld by the Space Wolves for refusing to take orders anytime they ran into another Renegade space marine chapter they'd say we're Chaos Undivided like the Word Bearers just so other Chaos Marines wouldn't fuck with them(didn't always work) when in reality they couldn't give a fuck about Chaos and just want to do pirate things.
Space Marines don't seem to need or want vacation days, In the 9e core book there's a mini story about a SM who spent 15 years alone on an Ork infested planet doing hit'n'run attacks, and as he's getting picked up he's wondering what his new assignment tomorrow is going to be.
>marines live for 10s of thousands of years,
Fucking no they don't. Even the Primarchs barely reach that. Bjorn's literally the only one even close to that and he's a dreadnought.
Fuck's sake the Imperium itself has barely been around 10,000 years.
Anon Dante's like 1100 years old. That's way fucking far off from 10,000. The only ones that have been fighting that long are Primarchs, Necrons, and Phoenix Lords, and most of them cheat.
In the novel Brothers of the Snake the Iron Snakes chapter had downtime in between missions where they would do to their homeworld to train and build squad synergy.
I go to message boards and actively start shit with 40k fans, even though I like 40k.
I'm the guy that starts 40k vs Star Wars discussion, I'm the guy who says Goku can beat the Emperor, its all me, it always makes people mad.
I do it for fun.
Chaosgate:demonhunters, a x-com like game about Grey knights helping the op's inquisitor fight a plague of nurgle.
It doesn't have the same level of atmosphere as mechanicus, but still a great game and with dlc you can play a dreadnought, a techmarine and a new dlc added the Eversonr, culexus, called calledus and vindicate.
Only Grey Knights because they are pet chapter of Ordo Malleus just like Deathwatch are pets of Ordo Xenos and Minotaurs are pets of High Lords of Terra.
Talking about Grey knights and taking the game as true, the Grey knights have accords with the Inquisition, but still have the last word if they think that inquisitor is full of Bullshit and the think they can do a better job in other place.
>Talking about Grey knights and taking the game as true, the Grey knights have accords with the Inquisition, but still have the last word if they think that inquisitor is full of Bullshit and the think they can do a better job in other place
Well in general Inquisitors are no different than commissars, technically they do have full authority, but doesn't make them immune to lethal friendly fire in the extremely violent society and subordinates
If you get it DO NOT enable the Dreadnaught DLC until you're near the endgame. The devs didn't play test it at all as it starts to add end game missions that add two corruption to planets when you're still barely at level three or four across all knights. Shit will heavily speed up the games fail condition
Only Grey Knights because they are pet chapter of Ordo Malleus just like Deathwatch are pets of Ordo Xenos and Minotaurs are pets of High Lords of Terra.
The lore has always been kind of inconsistent about it, but the last decade or so has been pretty much downright nonsensical about it. So the answer for modern lore is "whatever the current author of the text wants it to be".
On the bright side they're not very involved in the ongoing shitty narratives.
just glad thorpe's too busy with the dwarves now to ever touch them
Thorpe's fine. He actually does a good job of describing scenes and expanding on Eldar culture, it's just that his character writing sometimes leaves some to be desired and he's not the best fight writer.
>Thorpe is a self-admitted elf hater
Hearsay from an interview with a different writer from quite a ways back. Thorpe approaches the Eldar realistically. They're not a faction that's going to be doing big aweeping campaigns winning huge ground, they're a heavily splintered species led by seers grasping at needles in straw piles just trying to minimize casualties, with every one of them fighting two different Gods trying to tug on their souls in different directions. They aren't going to constantly win at things, 90% of what they do is damage control hoping to prevent something worse farther down the line since they know in advance how fucked everything gets.
The problem is other writers who see this and insteas opt for "Lol hurr durr Eldar bad at everything, no good times ever" like that retard who wrote the Warboss book, or the one who did The Wraithbone Phoenix.
No, Custodes only respond to the emperor and they explicitly said that. In any mayor incident to the empire, they stayed neutral until the emperor is really in danger.
The captain General of the custodes only returned to the high lords because the fall of cadia and Only now they are moving because Guilliman returned and even then some custodes have their opinions about how reckless the Primarch is.
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I don't know way, but of the xeno novels, the eldar the least that I like, the orks and the necrons are fun, the tau have other perspective of the galaxy, GSC are meh, but the eldar are sometimes boring or uninteresting
Eldar aren't a happy faction. They're more like a Fantasy faction in a lot of ways, which in turn makes them even more serious with what 40k's 'mystical' side entails.
gav has alaitoc's best plan to deal with an invasion as begging the space marines to kill someone else; all those other writers are just basing their stupid eldar off his
>Alaitoc
Yeah, the Craftworld that's mostly Rangers who aren't around, up against a full force of Marines and IG. That's a shitty fight for Alaitoc to get pushed into. If it was Biel Tan or Ulthwe or even Saim Hann they'd stomp the Marines, Alaitoc's not them though.
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Yeah in the Carnac Campaign, Alaitoc held its own against Trazyn, Orikan, Anrakyr, and a bunch of Necrons. Alaitoc aren't chumps, and Gav wrote them as chumps
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>Yeah in the Carnac Campaign, Alaitoc held its own against Trazyn, Orikan, Anrakyr, and a bunch of Necron
Except the Eldar lost that battle?
Its
very complicated. Half the story's background is basically the Inquisitor and the Grey Knight Advisor doing this weird song and dance of how far she can reasonably push it and the advisor deciding if he should allow given the severity of the situation they both find themselves in, and regularly balks at said Inquisitor's bossing them around multiple times so brazenly
And then there's of course the fact the Grand Master calls her up and goes "The FUCK are you doing commandeering a strike group of my Grey Knights?" and going 'fine, IF you keep convincing me this is is worth our time, I'll **ALLOW IT**"
Keyword there, allow.
In theory inquisitors have a lot of authority to do whatever they please. In practice said inquisitors are out on their own a fair amount and have to rely on whatever powers they're talking to, to essentially agree that said inquisitor has the amount of authority they say they do. So there's often a fair amount of asking nicely, deal making, and the like instead of as much ordering around because most inquisitors aren't retarded and realize a planetary governor(and other bigwigs) could easily make the inquisitor and his retinue disappear.
Inquisitors can boss whoever they want.
Say that to my face on Fenris not online and see what happens.
Reminder Space Wolves attacked a loyalist legion and drove them into Chaos' arms like the good little Horus lap dogs they are.
>u-um, actually my psyker powers is based on muh fenris nordic stuff! so its kosher!
im glad ahriman fucking snapped that guys soul in two
Whom?
a fuckin space wolf psyker who kept going on and on throughout the book how his psyker shit is different because its tied to fenris, despite literally floating through the exact same psyker sea as ahriman
this
anyone liking space vikingz chuds should be rounded up and shot.
Reminder Russ waited a good bit for Magnus to try and reach out cause he thought that’s what would have happened. When Magnus was a moron and refused to reach out any talk Russ just did his orders like he probably did twice before.
Yeah I often go on a rampage and kill my brother and all his children if he doesn't answer the phone. Shit just happens.
> yeah this massive fleet showed up and is keeping all shields down and open hailing frequencies.... better just be an angsty whiney bitch and not give them a ring.
You absolutely know Russ would have done the OG orders from the emperor if there had been an ounce of communication from retard.
Russ is a retard but magnus is an even bigger retard. They deserve each other
He should have done the OG orders anyway because they were from the fucking Emperor instead Russ decided to do what Chaos told him to do.
How do they keep getting away with this shit?
because they were 'the emperors executioners' who could do no wrong so whoever they get sent to fuck up obviously deserve it
>the emperors executioners
lol, dogfuckers SWERVE
>The Wolf King boasted to all that he was his father's executioner.
>He was a deterrent, a hound to snarl from behind a sealed gate, never to be unleashed. What the Lion was to his father did not speak its name so brazenly.
>For where Russ was a warning, the Lion was a solution.
>The final solution. He was the Emperor’s exterminator. What the honour of Russ would not abide he would sanction without hesitation.
>The enemy who might yet be integrated, the adversary whose misguided but noble resistance might be canonised in posterity, these were wars for his brothers to wage. >When the First Legion turned their guns upon a foe it was to annihilate without trace, to obliterate beyond all hope of record.
>That was the purpose for which the Dark Angels were created and it was the reason that He made them first.
Shut up dogfucker
I hate SW so much, and I fucking hate how their fangoys are all like
>BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY LE SUPER SMART AND CLEVER, THE BARBARIAN THING IS JUST AN ELABORATE RUSE
And then the SW act like retarded fratbros anyway.
Also leman is an annoying fag and a Jobber
White Scars>
wolves
BASED Scarbro
It's kind of gay that they turned him into Khal Drogo, I liked him better when he was a swole Fu-Manchu
White Scars are the most Chad legion
>Are Barbarians but are actually smart instead of just pretending to be smart like dogfuckers
>Nobody even in universe remembers they exist but don't cry about it like the Iron redditors
>Actually helped during the heresy
>>Are Barbarians
That's the thing, they aren't barbarians, everyone just thinks they are because they see them at face value.
This is why they don't like the wolves, because they are constantly compared to them as the "barbarian" legions.
I thought inquisitors were just normal humans and marines were literally made with the DNA of the the emperor. Sounds wrong
it only sounds wrong if you know nothing about 40k
They are like super feds that glow in broad daylight and get deputize anyone and anything for any or no reason at all.
A "basic" inquisitor can probably win a "basic" marine 1v1,lorewise.
Not to mention inquisitors have near absolute authority within the imperium. A marine is just a soldier, even if a great one.
>A "basic" inquisitor can probably win a "basic" marine 1v1,lorewise.
Definitely not.
Depends greatly on the inquisitor: some inquisitors might be physical slobs who barely lift their ass of their chair, while some might be extremely competent combatants that have destroyed/banished (greater) daemons. The powerscale for inquisitor is much larger, but the possible ceiling is much higher than for a normal battle brother space marine.
So, not a "basic" inquisitor like the guy typed. Are you guys retarded?
tbh Eisenhorn at that point in his life was probably as close to a "basic" Inquisitor as you'd get. But even then the idea of a "basic" inquisitor is nonsense. To be an inquisitor you need to be special.
Being a psyker means you're not even remotely close to basic.
He was a pretty low level psyker compared to other inquisitors in his ordo though. I get what you're saying though.
You need to take into account the fact that an inquisitor could be armed with literally *anything*, not to mention having all kinds of skills and abilities (psyker) a "normal" marine will have no access to.
A space marine captain or similiar would probably wipe the floor with all but the most formidable inquisitors.
Yeah, Inquisitors have access to some stupidly powerful shit, even more so if they are radical.
Hell Eisenhorn arguably took down an entire Titan single-handedly in the third book.
>took down an entire Titan single-handedly in the third book.
You know damn well what the cost was
>You know damn well what the cost was
One (1) Daemonhost
let's be honest, Eisenhorn did none of the heavy lifting in that encounter. That was all daemonhost
It was his Daemonhost, if I shoot someone I can't just say that it was the gun that did it, it was my gun, and I pulled the trigger.
Eisenhorn had a weapon, and he used that weapon.
Eisenhorn took out a CSM. Granted he's not basic but neither was that marine.
On the first trip to Cadia, a literal subhuman in a loincloth is able to kill a Word Bearer by jamming a sharpened stick through the throat seals of his helmet lmao
Ciaphas Cain was able to hold his own against several CSM. It just kind of depends on the story, but he’s also pretty exceptional.
Cain was exceptionally lucky and actually a very competent swordsman, he devoted a significant time to training and development of personal skills.
>actually a very competent swordsman
He's the best in the sector or something, and hos swordsmanship is the one skill he constantly practices and it actually confident about
He knew that it's melee where he would be most threatened because when the shooting started he would just keep his head down.
>he doesn't know
>A "basic" inquisitor can probably win a "basic" marine 1v1,lorewise.
no lmao.
>no argument provided
Awfully brave thing to say for someone within inquiring distance
>An inquisitor killed a Blood thirster (a greater daemon) in the siege of Vraks.
I now it was because the greyknights were debuffing the greater daemon but the point stands inquisitora are great combatants.
Even if it doesn't have its special warp powers, it's still a forty foot tall, several ton beast of rage with likely thousands of years of fighting experience. Taking down any greater daemon is an impossible task which is why so many Space Marine captains and CM's have that as part of their backstory. It's no small feat.
>Taking down any greater daemon is an impossible task
Except for the one dude who managed to kill about a dozen of them in one day single handedly
Malum Caedo is a veteran which is also a pretty impressive feat among marines. He's also Doomguy.
>One of your best Sorcerers capable of commanding countless Daemons including a fuck ton of Greater Daemons
>Hundreds of Aspiring Champions and Terminators
I pity the bastard who had to give Abbadon that report
who are the other characters outside the bolter guy?
Slaanesh and Khorne and Alpharius on the weather channel.
slaneesh is a woman? and why khorne is a rock?
>slaneesh is a woman?
chud god born from chud aliens
Slaanesh is most often depicted as feminine, but its gender isn't exactly definite.
The Eldar do tend to call it "she who thirsts"
the urinal marines get to skip all conventional world building
>Step aside gue'vesa, imma bout to make Khrone cum
>Xenos
>Mattering
Lmao go back to your cuckshed, gay.
>Aight, let me just take care of that Bloodthirster problem for you first
>this is the third best 40K fps due to lack of competition
Fourth. You forgot Necromunda: Hired Gun.
Fire Warrior must be kind of shit because Hired Gun was raw jank, fun jank but still jank
I liked Deathwing
i went into hired gun hoping for E.Y.E and only had myself to blame when i got disappointed
Is Necromunda bad? As a fan of Kal Jericho I wanted to buy it
NTA but I really enjoyed it. But then again, I loved Deathwing.
its not bad, if you like looter shooters like borderlands its fine, its just after a while theres not much variety and i didnt see a reason to 100% it. everything else about it is fine except for that, its on sale now for 70% off so get it if you like necromunda i guess, the atmosphere and setting is pretty good for what its worth, and it does make you feel like a cool dude doing dirty jobs in the underhive
It's jank but its' fun. It's HEAVILY flawed with glitches and bugs as well as just dumb shit like slow executions that lock you into place but don't make you invulnerable, lots of repetitive missions and Diablo loot. But the actual pure gameplay is fun with decent weapon variety and customisation that actually means something. Also the music fucking rocks
It's at least worth a pirate to try before you buy
Fire Warrior is pretty shit.
That's five, forgot Deathwing. So:
>Boltgun
>Darktide
>Deathwing
>Necromunda Hired Gun
>
>
>
>Fire Warrior
In that order.
>Darktide in second
Jesus Christ
How bad are the others?
Warhammer FPS games are not very good. Boltgun is the only one I would call good. Darktide, Deathwing, and Necromunda are serviceable at best and you can probably reorder them in the middle interchangeably based on your preference. Fire Warrior is not a good game.
Darktide being #2 is a sad statement, yes.
Well Deathwing AND Necromunda were made by Streum On studios (E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy), so they're pretty janky. Great environments though.
>Pic related, Necromunda, that's a train.
The window above "Koloss" is the conductor's seat
The Streum on games look so fucking good, it's a shame about the gameplay
Honestly, for me, the gameplay is secondary to the environments. I'm not even a graphicsfag, but just getting to "be" in the Imperium as opposed to looking down on it from a bird's eye view is worth it. But I totally understand if that's not a good enough selling point. And I haven't beat Necromunda yet, so maybe my opinion will change if what
says is true.
i liked the fuckhueg train mission, but it came at the cost of coming way too early, everything after that felt really underwhelming
The train level was fucking fun as fuck even if it had some awful encounters
>Darktide that high
This is more of an indictment on the quality of 40K FPSs than it is a complement for Darktide
And like I said an inquisitor took one down during the last stages of the siege of vraks. Killing a spacemarine is not outside of of the real of possibilities. Furthermore during the first Eisenhorn book, using the necrochuk to stun an emperor's children Eisenhorn is then able to behead him.
>a named Inquisitor did X, therefore it makes all Inquisitors capable of X
It makes some inquisitors capable of x.
and there are many more marines capable of X. So that doesn't mean average inquisitor will kill average marine
Only if he uses his authority to order the marine to surrender. In actual combat he would be torn to pieces?
Inquisitors have access to literally the most powerful weapons in the setting. If a Inquisitor was geared up, they could atomize an average Space Marine.
Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers, some of the most powerful psykers the Imperium can produce.
>Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers
No they're not
>Potential Inquisitors are often drawn from the Progena (graduates) of the Schola Progenium who show the most promise in intellectual or psychic areas prized by the investigative arms of the Inquisition.
Technically its not a requirement, but most field-inquisitors are Psykers since they are most equipped to face the terrors from the Warp.
The Schola Progenium is also where a lot of the Admirals and Generals of the Imperium come from, are they all Psykers too?
Cain wasn't a psyker.
Cain also wasn't an Inquisitor ya idjut
I realized my mistake and reported it to the nearest commissar.
>Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers, some of the most powerful psykers the Imperium can produce.
This isn't true by any means. Inquisitors are as varied as the planets in the Imperium: Some are hundreds of years old, some in the blossom of youth; some are hardline Puritans who view the slightest transgression as worthy of summary execution, others borderline Radicals that use Deamonhosts to obliterate their enemies; some are Beta-level Psykers who command entire legions of mind-slaves, others are hulking roided-up monsters with 500 pounds of vatgrown muscle on their frames.
That's what makes 40k an interesting setting: Anything and everything you can image probably goes on within it. Saying that all Inquisitors are the same is like saying all the AdMech are the same; it's just false.
>Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers
>Not to mention that all Inquisitors are also Psykers
You've no idea what you're talking about
Just a correction, but not all Inquisitors are psykers. Though being a powerful psyker who isn’t insane or possessed can help with becoming an inquisitor.
>who isn’t insane
That isn't really a prerequisite for being an inquisitor either
That's quite the bold and in all likelihood incorrect assumption: Power armor bros having like multiple backup organs and all kinds of combat/survival bullshit built into their very being. They're living extinction events to anything not even close to their level.
The point is an Inquisitor would actually never have to battle a Spess Muhreen into submission or whatever: Inquisitors are way beyond even Space Marines, the Emperor's blessed children, in ranking. Space Marines would just do whatever the Inquisitor told them (assuming it's not total bullshit or obvious Chaos influence in play) because that's what their duty to the Empire entails.
>Space Marines would just do whatever the Inquisitor told them
It depends on the inquisitor in question.
Each one technically holds the same amount of power but it all depends on how many resources he can actually pull together.
So basically an inquisitors power rests on how much clout he has with other imperials.
All authority is threat of violence. All authority not recognized is just violence or threat of violence, and need only be met with superior violence. Authority not submitted to loses all pretense of legitimacy immediately and is reduced to pure might makes right.
>Le power levels.
Your "Basic" inquisitor is a human being that goes around the Imperium and looks for threats to the Dominion depending on their Ordos. They have, like, 2 dudes that follow them around called Acolytes and have gun fights with bros using autoguns and stubbers. An Inquisitor lord like Erasmus or Coteaz could flatten your regular astartes but both of them have body piled Chaos Space Marines in the past.
But your "Average" inquisitor is a guy in a long coat with carapace armor carrying a bolt pistol and chainsword.
Would you say Amberley Vail is an average inquisitor? Because she had access to custom power armor and one of those displacement thingamajigs for avoiding damage and it was never treated like it's a big deal for her to have those
>Would you say Amberley Vail is an average inquisitor?
She's clearly not.
Why not? I don't remember her status within the inquisition being brought up, but it's been a while since I've gone through the Cain books
>Why not?
She's sane and does her job properly
She's powerful enough to keep Jurgen(and Cain by extension) a powerful blank at her beck and call while keeping them flush with rejuvenation baths and porno for Jurgen for hundreds of years
Amberlay has also been around the block a few times and has earned all the shit she carries on her, she just hasn't achieved the rank of "Lord" for various reasons.
Remember that Eisenhorn of all people is still just an "Inquisitor" and that bro started his career with a stub pistol and a power sword. Amberlay doesn't even really have a battle-ready starship, she's going around in a yacht, the same kind Imperial nobles use.
I don't think most inquisitors have the kind of posse that Amberly has
A good chunk of inquisitors are also Psykers. And as usual a Psykers who lives a long time ends up being really powerful.
Yeah, but even the most basic inquisitors go through gene modding to enhance their physical abilities and psycho hypno bullshit to make their brain work way faster.
Naw bro.
Just naw.
As a paypig that has run both the witch and deamon hunters splats before they were GK and SoB, this has never been true.
The justicars+ retained by the inquisitor can one-tap warbosses avatars and deamon-princes though.
The inquisitor isn't the problem, the inquisition is.
I really hope you meant guardsmen. A space marine would explode them with a backhand
They have insane authority to root out corruption and warp fuckery, the only people that can 'easily' overrule inquisitors are other inquisitors as far as I know, but because of their "mission" other groups can have a tougher time going against their orders unless backed by similarly important person
>the only people that can 'easily' overrule inquisitors are other inquisitors as far as I know
Custodes just ignore Inquisitors
To be fair, listing the banana boys is just unnecessary since their only objective is guarding the Emperor and nothing is more important than that, not even counting the fact that they're so far beyond pretty much everyone in might the inquisitor must be huffing the strongest copium in the universe to even consider fucking around and finding out
>normal humans telling marines made with the DNA of the the emperor what to do sounds wrong
thats what the chaos marines were thinking
marines are glorified tanks. Might doesn't make right in 40k
>Might doesn't make right in 40k
This statement feels off
>Saint Basillius was an Imperial Saint. An enormously influential figure who rose out of the Ecclesiarchy purges of the Age of Redemption, Basillius commanded a "Puritas" division of Space Marines who eliminated those he deemed heretical or impure. In 321.M37, he declared thirty Space Marine Chapters' faith to be lacking, condemning them to the Abyssal Crusade in the Eye of Terror.
>In early M38, Chapter Master Konvak Lann of the Vorpal Swords led the survivors of the Crusade out of the Eye of Terror, having purged at least four hundred worlds. However the Chapter Master declared the now-ancient Saint Basillius to be a false idol who had in fact been an apostle of Chaos working against the Imperium. Worship of him was banned, his followers were massacred, and his remains and relics were loaded onto a freighter and launched into a nearby star.
They can order a planet to be nuked from orbit if they think its irredeemable too
Inquisitiors have tacit permission to do whatever the fuck they want so long as it doesn't contradict whatever the High Lords of Terra desire, direct word from a Primarch (good fucking luck getting that), or the literal will of the Emperor himself - which is something they tend to claim they're representatives of anyway.
Space Marines are superhuman soldiers who could be called "grandsons of the Emperor" since the DNA of their augmentations are derived from Primarch DNA, which itself was synthesized from the Emperor's own genomes, but the individual marine is just a soldier. And like all soldiers, they are subject to the politics of their government. In Warhammer 40k, the Imperial Cult rules all. Inquisitors, as the name suggests, are tasked with rooting out corruption, and as such are given broad leeway and ambiguous authority. Inquisitors can condemn entire worlds to the slaughter under suHispanicion of heresy, and have marine chapters branded as renegades. While an individual Chapter Master might have political pull on par with a Planetary Governor, the rot and corruption of the Imperium has put massive power into the hands of Inquisitors and their agents, mostly to the detriment of the galaxy at large.
The only ones above them are higher ranking Imperial Cult members, Navigator Houses, high ranking members of the secular Imperial government, and the Techpriests of Mars. The latter only get their own leeway because of the obscurantism surrounding their work, and their importance to the Imperium. Everyone else is just a tool to them. If it sounds wrong it's because on some level it's supposed to be, Warhammer 40k often satirizes fanatical theological societies.
Martian involvement heresy would be such a bad situation that anything an Inquisitor would do anyway is going to happen twofold under the Techpriests.
the most powerful organization is the imperial bureaucracy but they misplaced their fucks to give millennia ago.
Oh yeah, they also can't order around Custodes because those are the Emperor's personal guard.
The thing is, particularly assholish Inquisitors who try to lord over any of the other major groups tend to just disappear with little fanfare. So there's always the threat of them getting utterly fucked if they overreach.
Inquisitors actually do have the legal authority to boss the Custodes around, it's just that they generally aren't stupid enough to actually do it since it's an easy way to get branded a heretic by an inquisitor who doesn't like you. They instead tend to kind of politely ask the Custodes to help them and only when absolutely necessary.
No, Custodes only respond to the emperor and they explicitly said that. In any mayor incident to the empire, they stayed neutral until the emperor is really in danger.
The captain General of the custodes only returned to the high lords because the fall of cadia and Only now they are moving because Guilliman returned and even then some custodes have their opinions about how reckless the Primarch is.
I don't know way, but of the xeno novels, the eldar the least that I like, the orks and the necrons are fun, the tau have other perspective of the galaxy, GSC are meh, but the eldar are sometimes boring or uninteresting
Gigachad Marine vs. CIA glowie that could have his whole family killed on a whim
Happens more than you think. I still chuckle at "ork snipers".
One of the causes of the heresy was the Emperor putting normal humans into positions of power in the empire instead of Space Marines because he knew they were just weapons.
i forget if horus ever found out at any point what happened to the thunder warriors (funny because he had a literal thunder warrior survivor in his legion). if he knew the emperor purged them all he would 100% be justified in feeling he would do it again but with the space marines next
Marines are just tools m8
>Inquisitors can boss whoever they want.
>laughs in dark angels
lol no.
First founding chapters can and do tell them to fuck off if they get too uppity, and if they try poking their nose into mechanicus business they will obfuscate to the point they get driven insane and/or assassinate them and hide behind the absolute clusterfuck of their organisation to get away with it
1. The Inquisition can challenge the authority of any Space Marine chapter, whether they choose to do so or let things slide out of prudence is another issue.
2. The Mechanicus is outside of the Inquisition's jurisdiction. Humanity is technically divided into two political entities, Terra, and Mars. The Imperium is the federation of these two states. The Mechanicus have their own internal policing.
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so they can't boss about whoever they want
They can boss around anyone part of Terra's administration as long as they can justify it as part of an investigation yes. Which Includes space marines and their masters.
They can but not everyone will listen to them. An Inquisitor has full right to walk into any given place and tell them what to do. However, if they value remaining alive and accomplishing their objective, they're better off doing some diplomacy and gathering allies and positive relations first.
I always knew the Mechanicus autists are the most based faction.
their is nothing based about worshipping rogue ai as "machine spirits"
mankind is the thing with a soul and implying a machine is equal is heresy
its almost like saying a xeno is ok
the machanicus needs to be purged but unfortunately are our mechanics
Mechanicus are actually a big part of why the Imperium is so fucking shit, so no.
Fleshcucks detected. Emotion cores are returning disgust.
>C'tan worshippers
>Based
Mechcumcus is shit for the same reason smurfs are shit.
That's kinda the point though, Inquisition can order First Founding chapters or the Black Templars, they wouldn't dare though, I mean what are they gonna do throw ork snipers against Fenris?
Technically the Inquisition's authority comes directly from the High Lords of Terra. TECHNICALLY they have authority over everyone. But this is the Imperium and the reality is that it is an endlessly complicated web of scheming factions and individuals wrestling for power and jurisdiction and nothing is black and white. For an inquisitor to try and challenge big shots in the Astartes, Mechanicus or Ministorum would probably be too much hassle but it very much depends on the situation, the degree of suspected heresy and the clout of the inquisitors and others involved. It's a setting after all. It is designed so that any scenario a player wants can theoretically happen.
It's about the who's got the biggest dick.
Inquisitors night have big swinging ones but there are plenty of others with even bigger ones, like the custards and the high lords
this shit is why the Inquisition is 90% of what's wrong with humanity.
The Inquisition is 90% of why humanity is still human.
Technically, yeah. In practice, nah. They need a very very good reason to try and boss around the other big power bases in the imperium.
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If i remember correctly they cant but it's in the astartes interests to not fuck with the inquisition because of the ammount of power they command, which is everyone but astartes and admechs.
You also have to remember that you both are part of the Inquisition and it's a bad look to say fuck off to an ally especially when she's bringing some pretty good information about Chaos corruption
They can, but like with anything in the imperium it can result in a lot of friction if one side abuses their status too much.
Yes.
if this hoe existed in 40k pre-2000 she would be a nameless woman used for breeding purposes.
Reading 40k lore written in the late 90s compared to modern day lore makes you realise how shit 40k is now.
Give us some choice bits you know of.
touch grass jfc baka
The old books would literally scare the chuds and zoomers anon
>muh old books
>posts a prime example of degenerate fanfic slop
I miss when things focused on Marines instead of gay aliens and Chaos.
>I miss when things focused on Marines
I hate marinefags so much
Marines are the core of 40k. The Imperium and Chaos are the only factions that matter. Aliens have always been and will always be NPC factions who exist to be curb stomped.
I just took offence to that retarded post that said Marines aren't in the spotlight anymore, since that is blatantly untrue.
GW had been trying to put out more shitty books from a xenos 'perspective' and they're all garbage, plus quite a few crappy psuedo-IG books. They need to just focus on Marines and IG.
>more shitty books from a xenos 'perspective'
Which books? Orks got like two novels in the span of 5 or so years.
Meanwhile in the same timeframe we got the Siege, The minka lesk novels, dark imperium, dawn of fire, watchers of the throne, vaults of terra, new continuations to old series etc.
Xenos are still far outmatched by both fluff and model releases.
Necrons and Tau got books. Necrons specifically got one that redditors adore and tout as being good.
I liked Infinite and Divine, they went Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann at the end throwing black holes at each other.
Anime gayry doesn't belong in 40k.
Necrons were better as silent soulless killing machines, not le ebin whacky old robots.
99% of necrons are still silent souless killing machines its only the leaders that still retain most of their personality, and out of all of them trazyn is the only one i would consider whacky. but considering orks as a faction are defined by whackiness i dont know if its fair to give them crap for that
Orks weren't retconned into being wacky though, they were (more or less) always like that. The Necron retcon is like if DEldar got changed into being super chaste or humanitarian or something.
>Necrons and Tau got books.
And? I specifically said in my lost that any xenos, or even chaos books are far, far outnumbered by imperium releases.
Yeah but you also have stupid shit like 'Warhammer Crime', who gives a fuck about that shit? It's a waste of time and money doing books outside Marines, IG, and Chaos, and even then IG isn't really in the running.
Orks are background NPCs who get slaughtered en masse when GW wants to fill time between Chaos canpaigns. Always have been, always will be, just like Nids.
Why is it bad for them to experiment a little with their setting?
>Warhammer Crime
It's a good series tho.
>It's a waste of time and money doing books outside Marines, IG, and Chaos,
Offensively retarded take
>Offensively retarded take
There's a reason HH outsells practically any 40k series. Nobody gives a fuck about xenos being in stories. People love Marines.
>Nobody gives a fuck about xenos being in stories.
Nobody gives a fuck because GW is stuck on a perpetual cycle of only hypimg marines, then being surprised that nobody buys anything else, and then hyping up marines because they sell the best, repeat as nauseam..
The proved with AoS that you can redeem a setting and that their marine expies aren't the lost popular faction in the game like marines are.
>The proved with AoS that you can redeem a setting
Lmao no they fucking didn't. AoS is fucking garbage, the fact you think otherwise just exposes how terrible your taste is.
AoS is still not NEARLY as good as fantasy was in its heyday but it sure is much better than whatever shitshow it was at launch.
They turned a franchise known for being Dark Fantasy and turned it into shitty cosmic slop about 'muh realms'. AoS will never be good.
At least Fantasy died before GW raped it's corpse and pozzed it to the extreme.
>before GW raped it's corpse
Never heard of the End Times i take it?
>Never heard of the End Times i take it?
Hey, the thing about the End Times is that after the embarrassment that was the Storm of Chaos, GeeDubs can insist as much as they want about their super cereal setting ending that's shit, but it will never be anything more than corporate pulling the plug
>it took them this long to make cities of sigmar an actually cool looking faction and not just old fantasy stock
too little too fucking late
No amount of bolter porn will make Black Library matter to GW's bottom line, so who cares
It's been 20 years, let go of oldcrons. Matter as well as for Obi-Wan Closseau back
its been painfully obvious over the last 20 years that xenos exist solely as filler/to move the story along for the imperium/chaos. remember when the eldar got yvrainne and shit? who came back solely to revive guilliman. thats it, thats all they did, eldar got an update just to bring back fucking GUILLIMAN. nids (despite continually being touted as a big threat) are anything but considering they still do fuck all (so that chaos is always the bigger bad)
necron books can be good because necrons can actually be interesting characters like trazyn, but characters like trazyn are the exception not the rule
>nids (despite continually being touted as a big threat) are anything but considering they still do fuck all (so that chaos is always the bigger bad)
Immagine, the nids finally break into segmentum solar, maybe even reach the solar system. Terra is in real danger again after thousands of years. An epic battle commences to defend the planet and the emperor. After blood sweat and tears the tyrannids are beaten back. Then fucking Abbadon appears to explain how this was also part of his chaotic master plan and yadi yada more chaos wank.
part of me feels nids got it worse than tau in the missed opportunity department. nids are this hyper deadly threat closing in on the galaxy like a noose but they still get beaten back with ease when it comes to shit like baal
i like 'normalish 40k setting' in a hive fleet with shit like a killer running around, i liked that bit in the HH book about the assassins meant to try kill horus
>with ease when it comes to shit like baal
The mods were by no means defeated with ease at Baal.
The Blood angels got like half their gene line exterminated, lost one of their recruiting worlds, and leviathan wasn't even properly defeated.
baal should have been eaten bro
Baal almost did, ironically Khorne saved their asses.
I mean, they can't really make the tyrannids into this unstoppable all consuming force they're hyped up to be for multiple reasons. First of all people don't want to see their faction get curbstomped into the dirt by nids in every canonical encounter. Second of all then what would be the point of the setting if the nids are destined to win anyway. 40k always had this speck of hope lingering in the background even in the darkest times. Also they're already being portrayed as ultimately unstoppable because every victory is being brushed aside as "uh it was ackshually just a tendrill of the main hivefleet lol". But if you want to be a nid fanboy you could just headcanon that they're still only just scouting forces. (even leviathan)
That's what happens when your factions most notable character is a monster missing an eye
>red terror is just a ravener
>but red
could at least give the hivemind itself some character, didnt that one ultramarine librarian connect with it for a hot minute and somehow didnt die/lose his mind
The hive mind has some character. It really, really fucking hates the Blood Angels and went out of its way to turn its swarms towards Baal.
>psuedo-IG books
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>I miss when things focused on Marines instead of gay aliens and Chaos.
EXCELLENT fucking bait holy shit.
You almost had me for a second there.
>if this hoe existed in 40k pre-2000 she would be a nameless woman used for breeding purposes.
Name FIVE examples of this occurring.
I often hear autists talk about shit like this happening in their grimdark fanon lore of various settings but the only game I can think of that actually does it is Grim Dawn.
Duke Nukem forevert too. To an extent, Dragon Age.
>pic related literally has about 10 examples
Sororitas and House Escher predate 2000
This, earlier 40k definitely had a completely different vibe to it
Yes. They're even above Chapter Masters. They bear an Inquisitorial Rosette that gives them ultimate authority in the name of the Emperor.
Inquisitor Thot couldn't even get a bloody magpie captain to fuck off from Tartarus.
The inquisitor has the legal authority. Spess muhreens have enough military power to consider disobeying that authority, if they disagree enough with said Inquisitor. Especially if that inquisitor can be KIA with no witnesses able or willing to call you out.
If you've ever played Inquisitor Martyr, you see this when you rescue the space marine Caius Thorn. He disobeys you and rushes a Khorne-infested Stormwatcher outpost You have the option to kill him afterwards but decide not to because of the benefit of having a space marine in your crew.
Doesn't save you from Ork snipers, however.
In theory yes, the only people Inquisitors aren't allowed to "boss around" are the Custodes. Everyone else, from others Inquisitors to the High Lords of Terra, are fair game.
In practice Inquisitors function with a reputation system and trying to boss around bigshots and other colleagues carry the risk of turning around and finding out all your supporters have, at best, left you all alone and at worst are actively calling YOU the heretic and making sure they have the Inquisition's support to hunt you down.
Space Marines are supposed to obey the Inquisition the same as everyone else, some chapters are close to the Inquisition and have fruitful partnerships (most notably : the Grey Knights), some dislike the Inquisition's method of scorched earth and will try to wiggle out of their summons, and even oppose the Inquisition (see: the Space Wolves). Generally speaking both organisations don't like each other but will work together well enough.
Inquisitors have basically unmatched authority off of Terra. They can do whatever the fuck they want and their word is law by writ. However, they also operate kind of like Rogue Traders in that while they have nearly infinite appointed power, not everyone respects said power. Thus an Inquisitor may have issues dealing with non-fanatical forces alone and thus need allies.
However when it comes to Space Marines, with a few exceptions, yeah they can basically tell them to do whatever the fuck they want.
Those kamek bros look like plague marines
Inquisitors, unlike Rogue Traders, actually have to report to someone. So while they can technically do almost anything, there are consequences for doing so.
Rogue Traders also do technically have consequences for fucking around in the fashion that Rogue Traders do. While Rogue Traders have the right to do whatever the fuck they want to obtain their goals on the frontier, there's a chance they can piss off the wrong people in doing so. If an Ordos Xenos inquisitor finds out about an RT's eldar waifu or Ork mercenary crew or fancy alien gun, they're going to be in for some questions. That's why a smart RT stays the absolute fuck away from the Inquisition.
Inquisitors have three different sects and report to high inquisitors. To add inquisitors also investigate other inquisitors and there's an entire checks and balances on every inquisitor because inquisitors check other inquisitors.
It's really not a big deal unless the inquisitor itself is corrupted. It's not like they will tell you to get on your knees and suck their dick. If they did they'd get btfo by another inquisitor.
Roughly yes. The Marines are still free to tell them to fuck off, so the Inquisition is usually a bit more polite when ordering them around.
Kind of. Inquisitors do have authority over marines and can even order their excommunication if they so will it. However not every chapter respects an inquisitor's authority and as
said, it's doubtful anyone would notice a lone inquisitor disappearing one day due to combat or a warp drive malfunction. Thus a smart inquisitor does some politicking, chooses their battles wisely, and makes friends instead of just waving their dick around.
Inquisitors have authority to do basically anything as long as they can justify it as part of an investigation.
The amount of freedom they have also means that a large amount of what they do is investigate each other, as falling to chaos is easy when you spend your life chasing it.
Eisenhorn books were good. I want some more action/mystery books. Not even 40k
Eisenhorn is great. I actually liked Ravenor better as a series. Pariah was, okay, not nearly as memorable.
Try the Shira Calpurnia series, she is an Arbites and the stories are mostly mysteries/investigation
There's a new line of books called Warhammer Crime that's all about that
I wish I could go back and finish this game. At some point in between asking me to go through interchangable missions while farming seeds to kill the reapers I just gave up since it kept cycling through the same four enemy types and I got bored going through the same motions of flamethrower fucks everything.
Maybe they'll make a Deathwatch sequel so you can curbstomp a variety of aliens.
I just finished a playtrough last week. They have added fair bit of new enemy types after launch.
she can comandeer my vessel at any time, if you catch my drift
Yes the only ones that can tell an Inquisitor to eat shit are a Primarch and maybe a Chapter Master sometimes.
And the lords of Terra. And other inquisitors higher on the pecking order.
Didn't Space Furries told them to fuck off repeatedly?
They did but the inquisition fucked them over so hard they regret it to this day. The only ones that got away with murdering inquisitors are the dark angels.
>The only ones that got away with murdering inquisitors are the dark angels.
Based DAs. Tell me more.
Some inquisitor obsessed with the dark angels threatened them with sanctioning so they killed him and pretend they never met him.
>DA keep killing loyal members of the imperium and innocent people to keep the knowledge of the fallen secret
>Their Primarch finally returns to them
>He has gathered the Fallen to him as his personal bodyguard
Awkward.
to be fair the Fallen were basically living in the Imperium as Mercs or Space Pirates. The ones who believe in Luther usually are chaos fuckers now. Shit, most of the Fallen apparently were part of Big E's Crusade so when their Primarch says they cool, others usually would stfu and accept it. And Lion isn't really the guy you'd want to fuck over with.
The inquisitor never existed and it was such a shame to hear about his assassination by ork sniper, also the inquisition shouldn't try to search the DA's computer's again.
And ended in a civil war were the furries got humiliated repeatedly and then won a pyrrhuc victory. (I'm biased for the inquisition)
the only one who got humiliated were Gay Knights
Went down like this
>Inquisitor wanted to kill the survivors from Armageddon
>Space Wolves told him to piss off since that's stupid, take on the refugees to protect then
>Inquisitor orders Grey Knights to open fire on the Wolves
>Grey Knights do and cripple a few ships, several escape
>None of the SW ships shot back, making the GKs really uncomfortable with their actions
>Inquisitor then demands that all planets the refugees land on have to be purged
>This gets attention from the rest of the Inquisition, many of whom immediately start to call him out or investigate him
>He still waves around inquisitorial rights since he's standjng behind several squads of Grey Knights, who all begin to swiftly realize they're not in the right as the 'battles' continue and thw wolves continue to not shoot back
>Inquisitor eventually demands that Fenris itself be brought to heel and leads his fleet there
>With help from other Inquisitors, who have come to the conclusions that the purge leader is either insane or a heretic, Logan Grimnar teleports to the bridge of the lead vessel and assassinates the Inquisitor
>Grey Knights issue a formal apology and rename the event to the 'Months of Shame' for their misled actions
Is this from that Rogue Trader game? In short, yes and no. Theoretically, they have oversight over anyone depending on their rank such as a Lord Inquisitor. The only case would be Rogue Traders with a writ of trade signed by the Emperor or Guilliman, or otherwise lesser writ but the Rogue Traders is an Inquisitor themself.
yes, as long as spehs marines don't -ACK you and bury your corpse somewhere
nu-40k is so shit bros.
How do we go back to greatness?
By buying GW and throwing any lore post-1993 into the trash. Do you have the money to do this? If not, then there will be no fixing 40k lore.
Give it time. Freakshit xenosfags are falling back to the wayside where they belong as GW realizes quirky wacky books don't sell models.
You have to create your own mini community around the older editions and enforce gatekeeping
Only play using the older rules.
Be strict about homebrew.
Make the game the focus and not the roleplay.
If you do it this way, you can kick women, gays, trannies and weirdo leftist men from the group without having to explicitly ban them.
Make the enjoyment of the tabletop experience be about the game and not what the geek zoomers want it to be, it naturally filters them out.
Go to any of the subreddits where posts are asking players about bad dm's/player experiences, take those notes and make a community around embracing that exact type of mindset that the redditors hate.
When they bitch that the game isn't fun for them, you've won, they are filtering themselves and will probably just won't come back for the next session.
Never concern yourself with the opinions of fake fans and tourists.
As long as you are true to the origins of the tabletop experience, there will be nerds who will want to play it with you.
no. they can ask them to do shit but if they get uppity marines can just kill them and cover it up or in the case of space wolves just openly kill them.
The Imperium is a collection of about a dozen "above the law" organizations that technically only answer to the Emperor.
But he's slightly indisposed.
Everyone answers to Toiletman now actually.
Honestly, I'm just amazed the Lion has had actual character progression.
Almost makes me think Lemon might not be an absolute raging moron of the type who does more damage to his own cause than his enemy when he inevitably comes back.
Leman's going to fuck the mother of the entire Eldar race after he rescues her from the Warp.
I thought Robot Guiltyman had all access to Eldar pussy, what is this?
Guilliman and Yvraine had like a single conversation and then it went back to the usual business of "Eldar lose at everything".
Leman's in the Warp looking for the "Tree of Life", which is heavily theorized to be Isha, the Eldar God of Life who's imprisoned in Nurgle's Garden. Isha also happens to be the literal mother of the Eldar race.
No, Rogue Trader houses with Emperor-signed writs don't have to answer to him, and he admitted his. Guilliman put out the call to convene the houses after that new rift opened up, and during it he was happy so many showed up, but he thinks to himself the only reason so many answered was because, essentially, it was new and exciting, him and the rift.
Rogue Traders are in a weird legal space where they technically answer to no one but are also surrounded by other people with "absolute authority" who can kill them if they wish. It's fitting for the absolute clusterfuck that is the governmental administration of the Imperium. Everyone is in charge, no one answers to anyone, and they all have opposing goals. It's basically legalized space tribalism.
And then the Imperium collapses due to no trade. Rogue Traders hold the most political power in 40k, unironically. Prior to Guilliman returning, the person with the most power projection would be a Lord Inquisitor Rogue Trader with a writ signed by the Emperor.
RT's respect the NAP
Not really. Inquisitors have jurisdiction on chaos matters but they're only going to treat the Imperial Guard like shit, not spess marines. That usually takes more of a diplomatic approach.
That said, if Inquisitors ask some passing marines to play some heretics to hell, very unlikely that Space Marines are going to say no, either.
Inquisition have jurisdiction over all internal security matters, Ordo Xenos deal with aliens and Ordo hereticus deal with traitors. Inquisitors can also cross specialise, so an Ordo Xenos inquisitor who comes across a Chaos plot might still tackle that problem. there's no real restrictions on what inquisitors can do as long as they dont cross into heresy themselves.
Grey Knights are part of the Inquisition and it was an emergency, but she gets constantly shit on by the Grandmaster and your Second in Command. Beyond the initial contact she has pretty much no power and in fact is put under your own command
Wait, this militaristic organization has a hierarchy? Wow.
>militaristic organization
Inquisition and Space Marines are different organizations. Space Marines are almost completely separated from Imperium in most things
>almost
Avery big branch of the inquisitors get to boss one branch of the military. Ordo Hereticus gets the Sororitas, Xenos get the Death watch (Marines) and Malleus get the Greyknights (super anti daemons marines). This doesn't always goes well for the inquisitor however, even if he is owed the right of deputizing one of the branches an inquisitor would to well not to overstep lest he disappears in less than friendly circumstances.
Proper HH game when? SM2 is dragged down by shitty Tyranids and Thousand Fags, Darktide had potential and screwed it all up, and Rogue Trader is pozzed.
Depends on their political power and influence.
Of course, they're the Inquisition. Nobody defies the Inquisition unless they're heretics. You're not a heretic, are you, Leonidas?
depends
what are you investigating?
cute boltpistol
You bet it has a suitable name too!
Something like "TESTAMENT OF OBLITERATION".
This is probably the only true scale space marine cosplay I've seen that doesn't look like absolute shit. I bet it does look like shit in motion however. Why don't people ever just make space marine armor to fit themselves? You're going to be short but at least you'll have functional knees. You never see spartan cosplayers on fucking stilts.
if i recall most space marine cosplay suits are rentals, so its not one size fits all
>the tiny arms
He is as the emperor made him.
>when it's misty outside and on your way to school you meet the Emperor's chosen instead of a monster
>it's exactly why there were no monsters
OI M8 YA GOTTA LOICENSE FO DAT TOY GUN?
>just read emperor's spears
wtf kek, Inquisition going to absurd lengths just to assassinate the Celestial Lion Chapter Master (again)
Depends on the inquisition and on the chapter.
>emperor's Spears
It's an ADB book so of course it's going to have something retarded and contrived happen
Anyone have that /tg/ screencap of the guy who got pulled over for speeding and the cop let him go when he flashed an Inquistorial badge he happened to have on him at the time?
To a certain extent, yeah.
But most inquisitors know better than to push their luck with the astartes
the only reason the celestial lions werent completely purged by a petty inquisitor is because big dick grimaldus told the inquisition to fuck off and leave them alone
Which begs the question, why aren't all the other Chapters in constant Crusade?
Are they just lazy?
The Grey Knights are the chamber militant of the Ordo Malleus
An Inquisitor's authority is backed up by the violence they are capable of bringing down on others, and in particular circumstances, the violence they can call the Inquisition itself to bring down on others. Their authority, like all authority, relies on intimidation.
Space Marines have a very high capacity for violence and plenty of firepower themselves. Meaning that while nominally an Inquisitor has authority to order them around, special circumstances are going to have to be at play to force a group of Space Marines to submit to the authority of an Inquisitor.
inquisitors have the power to declare your entire chapter kill on sight, by everyone, not even just the inquisition forces, so its best to just not fuck with them if you can help it
>inquisitors have the power to declare your entire chapter kill
Yeah and then he gets anally probed by other inquisitors to see if he's telling the truth, and if he is the order goes through.
Like how that one inquisitor tried to exterminate the space wolves, but after he got killed the other inquisitors realised to stop being retarded.
And the Space Marine chapter has the power to literally murder the Inquisitor, burn their body, and answer any further inquiries with "lol idk, they took off in their ship. Must have been lost in the warp or something."
There is plenty of politicking at play. It's not like the Inquisition itself is generally interested in going to war with a chapter of Space Marines if they don't absolutely have to.
Then you get called up by the high inquisitor, and investigated by 50 other inquisitors trying to figure out why you just called to decimate extremely valuable soldiers showing no form of taint.
the inquisition killed an entire chapter because one guy from it aided ahriman
>space marine chapter aided a heretic
>ordered to death
In what way does that equal an inquisitor ordering your chapter to die because you pissed them off?
The Flame Falcons got fucked over by the Inquisition because they looked different(and couldn't be burned by fire). Doesn't take much to be declared traitor
This has nothing to do with pissing them off. They cannot just give orders to purge you because you call them ugly.
>They cannot just give orders to purge you because you call them ugly.
I don't think any chapter has had the balls to call an inquisitor ugly.
The Marines Malevolent are the only chapter that comes to mind whose survived pissing off with the Adeptus Mechanicus(kept looting their ships and Inquistion(didn't like that they kept killing civilians) and are still limping around.
While the Inquisition was foolish to exterminate the Flame Falcons for manifesting blessings of the Emperor, randomly and spontaneously bursting into holy flames is still a bit more than "they didn't like how they looked" lel
If they're a woman, yes.
psyker inquisitors have the power to kill space marines and they can order space marines dead if they disobey
eisenhorn was able to kill them
Basically, in one of the Cain novels Inquisitor Vail ask/orders the Bone Knives Chapter to help out with a Tyrranid Invasion
You tell the Inquisition to fuck off you'll be declared Renegade pretty quick
>tfw no Thunder Warriors game
>get to do as many war crimes as you can think of, no one can do shit about it
>>get to do as many war crimes as you can think of, no one can do shit about it
There's entire factions with this shtick, the TW weren't unique in that regard.
Just watch clips of "Action Man" from venture bros, that's basically the Thunder Warriors in a nutshell.
You and your buddies get killed by your boss in the end.
Just watch M D Geist. It was even called "Thunder Warrior" in the US release, kek. He literally is what I think Thunder Warriors were, just not to scale physically.
I like the techo-romans aesthetic better
That helmet looks goofy as fuck
its weird theres no real thunder warrior era stuff, besides the last church touching on it a bit
there should be because the unification wars as a setting sounds like kino
Soldier:
>follows orders
/v/:
>LMAO WHY DO YOU GET BOSSED AROUND SO MUCH YOU FUCKING PUSSY
She's cute. Can I fuck her?
pls rspd
yes
Tell me about Ibrahm Gaunt.
Sharpe, but IN SPACE
i never even made the connection before but you're genuinely 100% correct now if only the plastic gaunts ghosts werent so fucking overpriced
And Cain is Flashman
I've always thought of him more of a Blackadder who keeps his sarcastic remarks to himself. Plus Jurgen is the spitting image of Baldrick if he was hyper competent
Is it better written that Sharpe?
I actually liked the show more, I dunno Cornwell is just dry when not describing huge battles
thats why sharpe battles are at most 20 extras on either side awkwardly shooting at eachother and you're supposed to believe theres hundreds of guys there
But the TV shows nonexistent budget gives it unreal amounts of SOUL
Upon sighting Sharpe posts, I naturally gave the order to ritualpost.
That's my style sir.
Simmersonmind
And did any Anon distinguish himself?
Lieutenant Anon led the shitposting, sir. You may say that he is tied to me by blood. But is it a tie of blood to tie my tongue and rob a brave man of his just dubs? No sir.
And Lieutenant Janny?
..Major Janny 's reports differ somewhat.
Major Janny says you lost your head and failed to get digits.
The fault was not mine, sir. Major Anon must answer.
Sean Bean's charisma made me believe
>Is it better written that Sharpe?
Ehh, I haven't read more than few Gaunt books but imo it's about the same.
>I dunno Cornwell is just dry when not describing huge battles
I agree, the books are standard and fun adventures but when there's a big battle I don't think that anyone writes them as well as Cornwell does, Waterloo was so fucking good .
*clears throat*
The fault was not mine Primarch! The Rubric Marines must answer!
>Is it better written that Sharpe?
no, its shit
whats a supreme grand master
grand wizard of the kkk
Head bro in charge of the Grey Knights
Gray Knights or DA chapter master
A very silly title
Off you're Grand Master you're already supreme
Unless there's some sort of over-order
>some sort of over-order
>Unless there's some sort of over-order
Don't worry about it
>Psychic powers bad! We should hang Magnus! I heard there were mutant scum in his legion too!
>What about all the psykers and mutant wolfmen in your legion?
>Doesn't count
What the fuck was his problem? I think considering the Emperor was a psyker, he should have taken that as an insult and a challenge and broken both of Russ' legs there and then, maybe that dour little unwashed fuckstain Mortarion too! There is literally and unironically nothing wrong with a trained Astartes using their psyker abilities or claiming and studying arcane artifacts and texts!
>hey, magnus, my son, you got some space magic stuff, real neat, anyways stop. no i wont elaborate on the dangers of it in any way despite you only ever using it to aid the imperium up to and including trying to warn about erebus being a fucking cunt. anyways the space wolves are gonna go wipe you the fuck out, including their own notpsykers
99% of HH could have been avoided if the emperor just had the slightest bit of trust in his sons
Isn't the Emperor now characterized as this huge sociopath that never even saw the Primarchs as people?
How is he friends with Malcador even?
The Emperor explicitly built some sick ass personalized bedrooms for the Primarchs to live in in the palace after the Great Crusade ended. This is not the actions of a man who built some tools with the purpose of disposing of them when their use ended.
The Emperor's characterization is all kinds of fucked up because whenever we see him in a book, he is appearing to a character exactly as he wants the character to see him. ie if he's talking to science man, he appears as embodiment of amoral all rational science Emperor for that scene.
One of the previous writers who unfortunately was there while writing a lot of the Horus Heresy books decided to work out his father issues by making the Emperor a dick. Since he left GW have started to walk back on that.
Did ADB leave or are you talking about someone else
Who?
You can say ADB's name, anon
This isn't /tg/, he's not here
Did ADB actually go on /tg/
According to the ancient legends, yes.
This was so long ago that he was actually regarded as one of the better BL authors mind you
>hey son, you know that fucking weird voice you made a pact with to stop your guys mutating and as a result your eye vanished? Yeah that entire scenario was retarded, stop fucking about with magic, I'm gonna go work on saving humanity by building this house of cards
>you used magic and the voice convinced you that you should use the house of cards knocking over spell to come talk to me instead of just driving here, that was dense and my plans are in ruins. I'm sending my furry son to come collect you so I can give you the I'm not mad, just disappointed speech
>my bald son who is jealous of my impeccable flowing locks convinced the furry to go full murder purge. Fuck, this is the opposite of my command.
>Emperor: Go arrest Magnus
>Russ: Ok
>Horus: Ignore that, kill Magnus
>Russ: Ok
He was a resentful moron because of that one time Magnus and his legion tried to stop a library burning. That's literally it
So what do the commisars do?
They are military police. Sort of like Judge Dredd for the Imperial Guard
>Sort of like Judge Dredd
That's the Arbites, Commissars are....Soviet commissars(but with a dash of SS)
Tactics and morale upkeep
Secret imperial police who uphold the empire and root out heresy at any cost, usually by abusing their powers of being able to say 'my word is the emperor's gay'
That's the Inquisitors, he asked about the Commissars. Which are pretty much the same as the USSR variety.
I misread bc the thread was about inquisitors originally rip
>Secret imperial police
That's the inquisition, commisars are military police on steroids
you give them way too much credit, they're literally just soviet commissars, its in the name. they're there to shoot any deserters/traitors and keep morale high if only by threat of death
What about Yarrick?
he's built different, guys a fucking old man still tussling with orks like its nothing
They maintain morale, usually by methods like webm related.
Short answer: No
Longer answer: Depends on the Chapter and situation. Chapters who pissed off the inquisition in the past tended to get in trouble one way or another,so even tho they are their own independent branch, thry tend to just go along with it.
>Jobs to Lion
>Jobs to Angron
>Jobs to Magnus(had to get rescued by his wolves)
>MegaJobs to Horus
This dude is supposed to be badass?
PLEASE SELECT YOUR CHARACTER
>It's another online flowchart Girlyman
>It's another piece of shit Perty player abusing super armor
>It's another Omegon tag out on low health to full health Alpharius
Balance your fucking game and buff the Khan you incompetent retards, give him back his fucking infinite, if you're dumb enough to let him mount up you deserve to die.
my bro vulkan
Phoenix Lords > Primarchs
Phoenix Lords die to a single grenade
>ADB gayry
Disregarded.
>n-nooo that doesn't count
>Plot armor is a good thing when my speshul quirky Marvel-tier Primarchs get it
>>Plot armor is a good thing when my speshul quirky Marvel-tier penis lords get it
Bro shut the fuck up, Guilliman literally got resurrected in the middle of Nurgle's Garden.
>noooo resurrecting is only ok when MY faction does it!
>Phoenix Lords are view with horror by many Eldar due to the nature of their 'resurrection' and their state of effective un-life, but even then are able to be killed forever if slain by a Daemon, or be condemned to eternal stasis if their armor is lost.
>Meanwhile it takes Mortarion knee deep in Nurgle's swamp to kill Guilliman, who then immediately gets back up with no problems and burns down half of the Garden
Yeah man Phoenix Lords are totally as bad as Primarchs.
The original Phoenix Lord was at ground zero of Slaneesh's birth and the opening of the Eye of Terror and survived that because he just did ok and that was when he was just a normal Eldar.
No he wasn't, the planet he was on was just one of the worlds that became a Crone World.
Jain Zar's book states that one in every 10,000 Eldar on the planet survived, and it slowly began to fall apart more afterwards.
Nah, PL might be primarch-level but not stronger.
>Primarchs doing Disney/Pixar soifaces
Unseen levels of cursed
Fuck, that is a horrible artstyle.
90% sure its AI
So a friend of mine gifted me his copy of The founding, a gaunt's ghost omnibus, I'm enjoying it and bought the 2nd part, another friend suggested the hero of the imperium book.
What else should I buy?
hero of the imperium is also good
some people would recommend the infinite and the divine as a necrons book
Don't fall for the horus heresy meme unless you're picking and choosing specific books and even then it's too much garbage to bother with
For me, it's listening to Oculus Imperia and Baldemort while I grind in games
Hero of the Imperium is one of the Ciaphas Cain Omnibus' right? What Cain I've read has been good, so that's a good choice.
I haven't read Gaunt's Ghosts, so idk how to reccomend similar books, I'll just go from what I've read, both literally and as recommendation picks.
Eisenhorn Trilogy for Inquisitors, Helsreach for the Black Templars, the Space Marine Chapter.
The first 3 Horus Heresy books are a continuous story, and the first 2 are solid (I just started 3). It's fun experiencing the hopeful Imperium before the fall.
And whatever you do make you DON"T to go /t/ or /tg/ and find the Black Library collection torrent, definitely DO NOT download that many ebooks for free, that's bad and wrong.
Do you know where I can find the comics like Bloodquest, Damnation Crusade or Reedeemer I found only one site with them but I would rather not get a virus
I got Bloodquest & The Redeemer (not sure if it's the same series) from the trove, I'm not sure if it's still up though.
https://archiveofsins.com/t/thread/942337/#949787
thanks bro I checked both /t/ and /tg/ but couldn't find anything
Seraphine > Uppity, faithless inquisitors
My favorite example of this is when an Inquisitor declared the Brazen Drakes chapter heretics, sending a message to the fleet that was bringing them Primaris reinforcements. The Custodes in charge orders the Primaris Drakes to be arrested, and they refuse, leading to them being purged. Some marinefags are still pissed about that to this day.
Vakir is an inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus, basically the Inquisition arm that deals with demonic incursions and shit like that. The Grey Knights are the "Chamber Militant" of the Ordo Malleus, basically meaning their the military arm of that part of the inquisition. As an inquisitor of her stature, I.E she runs her own fucking operation, Vakir has the power to call upon the Grey Knights to aid her when the need arises.
Considering Vakir was dealing with a Nurgle invasion that was eating an entire star system, that was a pretty serious "Need".
Its the same with the Deathwatch, who are the chamber militant of the Ordo Xenos, if an Xenos Inquisitor said "Fuck, Genestealers, get over here." They would do it.
The same goes for the Frateris Militia and the Ordo Hereticus.
The best part is at the end of the day she ends up in a subordinate position and constantly shit on by both the Grandmaster and Ectar constantly
>40k
When that universe and its autistic fanbase will fucking die?
Not in our lifetime. But it'll be a while till it becomes fully mainstream
Its already mainstream, or at least the media is. The game itself is harder to get into because its expensive, requires time, and still has that stigma about being a nerd hobby. Like, yeah, nerd shit is mainstream, but actual nerds are still despised entirely.
who's gonna stop them?
They have a certain amount of clout to use, yes.
If they go overboard then another, bigger inquisitor will come and dunk on them. If THAT inquisitor goes overboard then a second bigger inquisitor will come to dunk on him.
The Imperium is held together mostly because everything outside of the Imperium is more of a threat than the other guys inside of the Imperium. It's a delicate balance and no one faction wants to be the one to fuck it up.
So what's the deal with the Inquisition anyway?
As an organization they're beyond even the Lords of Terra, but an Inquisitor can only be appointed by other Inquisitors, so they're just a small cabal of psychopaths with zero oversight that roam around the galaxy doing not helping with the war, the administration or anything beyond hunting heretics?
They exist so that things can be done without having to wait for the slow imperial bureaucracy
Elaine would be some random whore.
They're not beyond the High Lords of Terra, one of which represents the Inquisitors. There are 3 main orders (Malleus, Xenos, Hereticus) and a bunch of additional minor ones. There are also a bunch of sub factions within depending on their beliefs, how they organize and conduct themselves.
Mostly the checks to renegade Inquisitors is other Inquisitors, either hunting him down directly or going "yeah sure just kill them we don't care" to other factions.
>Mostly the checks to renegade Inquisitors is other Inquisitors
Lol, literally
>We investigated ourselves
Yes, its the exact same issue that internal investigators in the police have, in that the only people that can investigate them are themselves.
Its also why there are so many Inquisitors that turn bad.
Technically they are below the High Lords. In fact, one High Lord is the Inquisitorial High Lord.
So, they all answer to him, in some way or another, and are blessed by him and his authority.
But if, say, the High Lord of the Mechanicus told a direct subordinate to do something pseudo-heretical to technology, then the Inquisition might not have sway over this.
After all, they both get their political and legal authority from a High Lord.
So, it gets fuzzy around the edges.
Every High Lord (barring the Lord Commander Militant of the Astra Militarum) if very willing to give their clout away to their underlings in judicious amounts. High Lords tells underlings to do thanks that step on toes of other High Lords and on and on forever.
It's a bureaucratic clusterfuck a million planets wide.
That said, Inquisitors generally outrank everyone else due to the fact that they're all DIRECTLY under their specific High Lord, not given orders that came down the chain of command.
If they want something done, they have the right of way, and the political clout and militant might to back it up, 98% of the time.
To clarify, most other sections of the High Lord Table's influence wane over time. The 2nd in command gets a mandate, the 3rd in line gets a decree, the 4th and order, the 5th a request, and so on and so on.
The Inquisition is not like that. Every. Single. Inquisitor. Is treated as though a High Lord told them to do whatever they're doing.
While that might be an issue in most cases, the Inquisition has a way around it.
Every Ordo of the Inquisition takes care of its own self-governance, up to and including trying, torturing, execution, and fixing anything a wayward inquisitor may have done.
A good example is Inquisitor Kryptman, who burned over two dozen worlds to cinders to stop the Tyranids from getting food.
He acted with full authority, did the deeds, killed his billions, and was tried for it. In the end, while it was decided he did the right thing, in a very vague sense of the word, they didn't want him to have that power, and stripped him of his titles and authority.
There was no time the High Lord of the Echilsiarchy could butt in and demand justice, and the Inquisition had already done it. Kryptman in nearly unique in the fact he wasn't executed for something so serious, but he's a named character so they tend to get away with that in the 40K lore.
>Inquisitor Kryptman
Would you have done different, Ganker?
Similar.
Wait for the Nids to get on planet, THEN set off the charges.
>Shadow in the warp then prevents you from escaping and the nid ships devour you alive
Whoops
More realistically, you transport the mega-meltas to the surface with a suicide cadre assigned to each one, then get your ships out of dodge before the bad bugs arrive.
But it's still risky, nids are cunning predators & might manage to discover & take out the bombs (lictor assasins and genestealer cults pose a real threat to your suicide bombers) Also the nids won't commit a lot of ground forces unless they're encountering meaningful resistance, (soft targets get peppered with weak units & tyrranified wildlife & left to cook for a few months, since anything good you send down short of a Tyrant is coming back up as goop) so you need to defend the planet & use the bombs as a fallible last resort, or just not bother.
Naw.
Set that shit on a time, and also give a second activation to the planetary governor.
"In case of planet deemed lost and you desire evacuation for you and your court, activate this beacon in a defensible location. Agents will be en route within the hour.
Evacuation will only take place if you have a live specimen of the new breed of Xenos. Failure will have my agents' transport leave without you."
Just in case my timer was too long, he can panic-blow it early.
Worst-case scenario, he blows it before the nids get to the planet when he pussies out. Planet is still molten rock and ash in the end.
>nearly unique in the fact he wasn't executed
Thing is, Kryptman displayed neither incompetence nor disloyalty. The billions he killed were doomed & by preemptively purging them Kryptman significantly weakened the xenos incursion.
Imperial leaders make absurd (to us) 'acceptable losses' sacrificial moves all the time. That Kryptman was punished at all speaks to the enormity of his actions: the imperium wanted to give its most senior servants a rare reminder that you do actually need to preserve something in order to make a sacrifice worthwhile, otherwise it's just spite.
You're are the best of the schola or you become a prosecutor (I think that's the rank) and wait for your inquisitor boss dies.
The series "vaults of terra" explains a little jow the Inquisition works:
The inquisitor have the power of the emperor, meaning that they can invastigate anyone, even the high lords, but that's like any third world country denouncing a first country to the ONU.
Technically all inquisitor have the same ability and power to investigate, but the resources that each one posses varies, so is not advisable for a ordo malleus inquisitor with a routine of 1000 humans, fully armed and other things, investigate a leader of the most advanced planets on the imperium, a leader of the armies and ship or even a college that is in the high lord position and has centuries of experience, resources and secrets at his disposition.
They are just the secret police of the imperium.
lolno but the inquisitor can do some damage by accusing the chapter of heresy which will take time to sort out so it's usually better not to piss them off.
Has an inquisitor ever gotten rightfully convicted for exterminatusing a world? The way the games make it seem is that if there's even 1 cultist that they can't catch or kill then it's justified.
see
He didn't get rightfully convicted, it was more like getting fired because you are too competent a your job and your boss has a massive ego. I am referring to one calling for an exterminatus then finding out whoops, it was unnecessary.
Kryptman was outright excommunicated for killing billions.
So Lionel woke up and pardoned all the fallen who didn't turn to chaos, couple of questions
>what's dark angels schtick now they don't have the unforgiven dark secret shit?
>did whatsisface come back? Lionel's dad? What about cypher?
>did they tell him about the cells full of loyalists who found out the truth they have locked up?
So wat are the Traitor primarchs up to?
>> Angron is fighting The Lion i think (didn't read Arks of Omen)
is creating his nerd paradise in Prospero after attacking fenris.
greeted Roboto after Awakening.
is getting spanked be Nurgle after the plague wars disaster.
is doing???
>>is lorgar still hiding from corvus?
Did any book or rulebook said something about them? Apart from Angron and mortarion.
perty is irrelevant like always
>Angron is fighting the lion
>Mortarion is getting the belt
>Magnus is trying to build his wizard kingdom
>Fulgrim is to busy crying after getting dabbed on by rylanor
>Perturabo is too busy building legos or something
>Lorgar is hiding from Corvus in his cuck tower
>Konrad is dead
>Horus is Mega Dead
>Alpharius is Omegon
>Alpharius is Omegon
God, I love the Alpha Legion's whacky antics.
is to busy crying after getting dabbed on by rylanor
Old news. Fulgrim's currently on the galaxy's most violent pub crawl across Imperium Nihulus, annoying Abaddon to no end.
>Alpharius is Omegon
That's just what they want you to think, or is it?
lorgar was never hiding from corax
Here is the text say that again
He found himself in a large chamber, colourful mosaic underfoot, the walls covered with fresh murals, white vaulted ceiling and domes far above. Part of the Templum Inficio. He had no time for his surroundings, eyes drawn back to the gate.
Shrieking, the raven flock scratched and pecked, but they could not pass the warp barrier.
Lorgar glared at the apparition on the far side, chest heaving as though out of breath, his head crowned with a halo of black warp fronds.
Corax assumed his mortal shape again, one cheek bloodied and bruised, his eye almost closed.
'I have your scent now, Lorgar,' growled the Ravenlord. His face contorted with monstrous rage. 'I will find you, Lorgar! I will destroy you and every vessel you have filled with your taint!'
Lorgar staggered away and the portal arch fell dull, leaving only bare stone within its pillars.
'We can assemble a force and return, our lord,' said Marduk, hurrying after the primarch.
Their entreaties continued as they followed Lorgar through the corridors and halls, heading towards the centre of the grand construction spreading across their new capital on Sicarus. Stairs took them high, to the tower at the heart of everything. Black doors opened at Lorgar's approach and he strode within, no word uttered, no backward glance.
With a noise that echoed in Kalta-Ar's soul as much as his ears, the doors slammed shut, leaving him and Marduk on the threshold. There was no handle, no keyhole, nothing by which they might open the edifice.
A white Colchisian rune burned into life upon the door, and another.
'Deny fate,' read Kalta-Ar. He turned to the first acolyte. 'What does that mean?'
Others were hurrying from the surrounding cloisters, demanding to know what had happened.
'What does this herald?' asked one of the approaching Word Bearers.
'We wait for his return,' replied Marduk. 'Until then, the great work must continue.'
Yeah, and Corax hunting down Lorgar is considered a myth by the Word Bearers in 40k, not to mention Lorgar has left the tower and is leading armies now. Clearly Corax didn't have much of an effect on him.
>CAW CAW CAW
>AIEEEEEEEEE OH NONONONO CORVUS PLEASE SPARE MY ASS OHHHH NOOOOOO
>Corax was the only loyalist primarch to still uphold the Edict of Nikaea in the middle of the Heresy
corax was a moron
He's an emo bird what do you expect
He also exiled the IG regiment that had saved him and the RG at Istvaan
Rogal Dorn didn't even integrate his librarians back into line troops, he banished them into a room on the Phalanx until the middle of the Siege of Terra.
Corax at least had them out doing shit while forbidding them from doing psyker business.
Corax let his psykers use their psychic powers, as every other loyalist primarch did once they realized what they were up against. But then he changed his mind and was going to remove his librarians again. He ended up banishing his chief librarian to go to Terra, where he became one of the first Grey Knights
Corax was a dumbass
A U.S. senator has more authority than a Navy SEAL, even though the latter could rip the former in two
Why does she look like an anime character.
Are they pretty much the only example of a Successor Chapter that's more powerful than their First Founding Chapter?
More than that, the Black Templars are the only non-first founding chapter to be this relevant and popular
Crimson Fists may not be more powerful, but they got ten times the balls of the Imperial Fists.
Carcharodons, aka "totally not a World Eaters successor chapter we swear"
They're fucking Raven Guard.
Not Night Lords GS. Not World Eaters GS. Not Chimeric bullshit. They're the Terran Raven Guard Corax told to fuck off.
And then at some point a fan painted them with Maori shit and that got so popular it became a thing in the lore.
Unconfirmed.
And these boys don't look, nor act, very Raven Guard-y to me.
you're right, they're not very raven guard however they're not world eaters ether.
>recruits from prisoners
>uses terror tactics
>even night lords say they have uncanny similarities to themselves
>fan painted them with Maori shit and that got so popular it became a thing in the lore
based
Nah man, tacticool have nothing on this pure edge
Naw
Yah
nyet
Da
God, the Corax helmet is so cool
>Fire suppressed bolt
>Fucking explodes anyway.
Depends on the marine, Inquisitor, chapter and how badly the marine wants to tell them to fuck off, sure you might be able to ignore the Inquisitor in some cases if you're some high up guy but is it worth the drama it might bring.
Do SMs get vacation days?
weapons don't get vacations, they get placed back at the gun rack at the end of the day
What if an entire chapter decides they don't want to do this shit anymore? They spend their days making fun of wagies on 40000chan. Do they instantly become baby eating chaostards?
>What if an entire chapter decides they don't want to do this shit anymore?
Then this gentleman shows up to politely remind them to get the fuck back in line.
>What if an entire chapter decides they don't want to do this shit anymore?
The Blood Gorgons dropped everything one day and decided they wanted to be pirates. After they got kicked off their homeworld by the Space Wolves for refusing to take orders anytime they ran into another Renegade space marine chapter they'd say we're Chaos Undivided like the Word Bearers just so other Chaos Marines wouldn't fuck with them(didn't always work) when in reality they couldn't give a fuck about Chaos and just want to do pirate things.
Space Marines don't seem to need or want vacation days, In the 9e core book there's a mini story about a SM who spent 15 years alone on an Ork infested planet doing hit'n'run attacks, and as he's getting picked up he's wondering what his new assignment tomorrow is going to be.
marines live for 10s of thousands of years, 15 years alone must seem like nothing to them
>marines live for 10s of thousands of years,
Fucking no they don't. Even the Primarchs barely reach that. Bjorn's literally the only one even close to that and he's a dreadnought.
Fuck's sake the Imperium itself has barely been around 10,000 years.
bro dante is thousands of years old
Anon Dante's like 1100 years old. That's way fucking far off from 10,000. The only ones that have been fighting that long are Primarchs, Necrons, and Phoenix Lords, and most of them cheat.
In the novel Brothers of the Snake the Iron Snakes chapter had downtime in between missions where they would do to their homeworld to train and build squad synergy.
dammit if the Hawaiians can get a chapter where's my native American chapter?
I was gonna say Rainbow Warriors but they're more Aztec. Also bro? Raven Guard?
>where's my native American chapter?
Isn't that the Raven Guard
OG dark angels were native american inspired
I go to message boards and actively start shit with 40k fans, even though I like 40k.
I'm the guy that starts 40k vs Star Wars discussion, I'm the guy who says Goku can beat the Emperor, its all me, it always makes people mad.
I do it for fun.
Well, can Goku beat him?
Alpharius, get off the web.
>its all me, it always been me
erebus pls
Absolutely Alpha (legion)
He says while posting literal perfection.
Damn you, Omegon.
Is this from Space Marine 2?
Chaos Gate Daemonhunter
Chaosgate:demonhunters, a x-com like game about Grey knights helping the op's inquisitor fight a plague of nurgle.
It doesn't have the same level of atmosphere as mechanicus, but still a great game and with dlc you can play a dreadnought, a techmarine and a new dlc added the Eversonr, culexus, called calledus and vindicate.
Talking about Grey knights and taking the game as true, the Grey knights have accords with the Inquisition, but still have the last word if they think that inquisitor is full of Bullshit and the think they can do a better job in other place.
>Talking about Grey knights and taking the game as true, the Grey knights have accords with the Inquisition, but still have the last word if they think that inquisitor is full of Bullshit and the think they can do a better job in other place
Well in general Inquisitors are no different than commissars, technically they do have full authority, but doesn't make them immune to lethal friendly fire in the extremely violent society and subordinates
Why is Chaos gate not made by the same team as Mechanicus?
If you get it DO NOT enable the Dreadnaught DLC until you're near the endgame. The devs didn't play test it at all as it starts to add end game missions that add two corruption to planets when you're still barely at level three or four across all knights. Shit will heavily speed up the games fail condition
What game is this from?
Only Grey Knights because they are pet chapter of Ordo Malleus just like Deathwatch are pets of Ordo Xenos and Minotaurs are pets of High Lords of Terra.
I MUST COMMANDEER THIS VESSEL AT ONCE, OR I WILL TAKE YOU ACROSS MY KNEE!
reminder the imperial fists died out
The Fists have fallen. Millions must crusade
The lore has always been kind of inconsistent about it, but the last decade or so has been pretty much downright nonsensical about it. So the answer for modern lore is "whatever the current author of the text wants it to be".
Imagine being an Craftworld fan
Which sucks, because I like their aesthetic somewhat
just glad thorpe's too busy with the dwarves now to ever touch them
On the bright side they're not very involved in the ongoing shitty narratives.
Thorpe's fine. He actually does a good job of describing scenes and expanding on Eldar culture, it's just that his character writing sometimes leaves some to be desired and he's not the best fight writer.
Thorpe is a self-admitted elf hater, I blame him for a lot of the shit wrong with Eldar
>Thorpe is a self-admitted elf hater
Hearsay from an interview with a different writer from quite a ways back. Thorpe approaches the Eldar realistically. They're not a faction that's going to be doing big aweeping campaigns winning huge ground, they're a heavily splintered species led by seers grasping at needles in straw piles just trying to minimize casualties, with every one of them fighting two different Gods trying to tug on their souls in different directions. They aren't going to constantly win at things, 90% of what they do is damage control hoping to prevent something worse farther down the line since they know in advance how fucked everything gets.
The problem is other writers who see this and insteas opt for "Lol hurr durr Eldar bad at everything, no good times ever" like that retard who wrote the Warboss book, or the one who did The Wraithbone Phoenix.
Eldar aren't a happy faction. They're more like a Fantasy faction in a lot of ways, which in turn makes them even more serious with what 40k's 'mystical' side entails.
gav has alaitoc's best plan to deal with an invasion as begging the space marines to kill someone else; all those other writers are just basing their stupid eldar off his
>Alaitoc
Yeah, the Craftworld that's mostly Rangers who aren't around, up against a full force of Marines and IG. That's a shitty fight for Alaitoc to get pushed into. If it was Biel Tan or Ulthwe or even Saim Hann they'd stomp the Marines, Alaitoc's not them though.
Yeah in the Carnac Campaign, Alaitoc held its own against Trazyn, Orikan, Anrakyr, and a bunch of Necrons. Alaitoc aren't chumps, and Gav wrote them as chumps
>Yeah in the Carnac Campaign, Alaitoc held its own against Trazyn, Orikan, Anrakyr, and a bunch of Necron
Except the Eldar lost that battle?
marines, no. every other human being in the galaxy, yes
What do you guys think of eisenhorn?
He's got a lightsaber. That's pretty cool.
The novels or the character?
Both
Its
very complicated. Half the story's background is basically the Inquisitor and the Grey Knight Advisor doing this weird song and dance of how far she can reasonably push it and the advisor deciding if he should allow given the severity of the situation they both find themselves in, and regularly balks at said Inquisitor's bossing them around multiple times so brazenly
And then there's of course the fact the Grand Master calls her up and goes "The FUCK are you doing commandeering a strike group of my Grey Knights?" and going 'fine, IF you keep convincing me this is is worth our time, I'll **ALLOW IT**"
Keyword there, allow.
In theory inquisitors have a lot of authority to do whatever they please. In practice said inquisitors are out on their own a fair amount and have to rely on whatever powers they're talking to, to essentially agree that said inquisitor has the amount of authority they say they do. So there's often a fair amount of asking nicely, deal making, and the like instead of as much ordering around because most inquisitors aren't retarded and realize a planetary governor(and other bigwigs) could easily make the inquisitor and his retinue disappear.
This. On paper they can, but if they push the Marines around too much, accidents happen.