So the whole "Vivian was trans in the Japanese version and got censored in the english version of TTYD" was bullshit?

So the whole "Vivian was trans in the Japanese version and got censored in the english version of TTYD" was bullshit? Is the Gamecube version's english script more accurate than the Switch version's english script?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you need to make a thread about this every single fricking day
    this is why mario rpg and mario & luigi are better than toilet paper shartio

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither is accurate. Vivian is a biological woman in the gamecube version. Vivian is trans in the remake, but Beldam doesn’t insult her for being male anymore.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is the Gamecube version's english script more accurate than the Switch version's english script?
      see

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker will say anything to pretend its right about something. Remember Bridget?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I played since XX and they changed her for Strive. Somehow time changes things. Crazy right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sometimes changes are bad and done for nefarious reasons. Have you considered that?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ganker will say anything to pretend it's right about something.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Ganker is one person
              Anyway,
              I am 100% correct. The fact you could not actually engage with my argument shows that you don't have one. Sad!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ganker will say anything to pretend it's right about something.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ganker is one person
                Anyway,
                I am 100% correct. The fact you could not actually engage with my argument shows that you don't have one. Sad!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I played since XX and they changed her for Strive. Somehow time changes things. Crazy right?

      Ganker will say anything to pretend it's right about something.

      Ganker will say anything to pretend it's right about something.

      >Troon meltdown

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    troony game liked by subhuman gamecube trannies

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vivian trans defenders still can't respond to this btw

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vivian is male in every version of the game except English. Every Paper Mario thread now is EOP mental gynmastics about how their waifu isn't a guy.
    https://tcrf.net/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door/Regional_Differences#Character_Differences

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so why is there a gc 2004 english restoration patch?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ganker is one person

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it was the most downloaded mod on gamebanana before it got permabanned

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And yet Ganker is not one person! And yet you have not provided a source! And yet that doesn't mean anything at all, curious!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Old censorship good me hate trannies

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick would someone honestly think the Japanese would depict a troony in a mainstream Nintendo game in 2004? As ever, it's just insane people trying to anachronistically trying to project their fetishes onto the past.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >think the Japanese would depict a troony in a mainstream Nintendo game in 2004
      but they did?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://tcrf.net/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door/Regional_Differences#Character_Differences
        trannies still cant respond to this

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The gamecubes version is more accurate.
    Vivian was a trap in the english GC version.

    The remake's english version cut out all the mocking he got for calling himself a girl by his sisters because it was "transphobic" which is hilarious because not even bad guys are allowed to be transphobic.
    Which mean if it's wrong for a bad guy to do, it must be a good guy thing right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vivian was a trap in the english GC version.
      show me one line in the english gc version that said she was anything besides an actual girl

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The voices in my head told me

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Undefeated.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did trannies even exist in 2004? As in, people who said that wanting to be the other sex hard enough makes you literally be the other sex? I know they were a meme porn category back then and obviously transvestites have always existed but I don't remember hearing about trannies in their modern form until the 2010s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure a transgender flag was featured in My Life as a Teenage Robot in 2003, said flag was created in 1999, so trannies were around since then even in their current form, they were just a fringe minority that most of society never had to be exposed to and were shunned and mocked by everyone that wasn't an LGBT cult freak

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My kids will never touch nintendo now that I've seen what freaks the players become.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nintendo better improve their buttplug support if they hope to outdo PC gaming.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon don't let anyone or anything other than you raise your kids

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it kinda isn't very clear whether she's trans in any of the 4 versions of the game I'm familiar with, the 2004 and 2024 English and Japanese versions
    none of those 4 games use the word 'trans' or 'transgender' so there's no way of knowing whether vivian would personally identify with that label

    You can comfortably headcanon whatever label you want for vivian in every game

    Although it's true that in JP 2004 a lot of the characters in the game itself are really really insistent on calling Vivian a boy

    and in JP 2024 vivian herself says she has the body of a boy

    which is why the JP audience at least considers her an 男の娘

    but I can still see why if you're primed to interpret the world through a transgenderism framework why you would think vivian matches the description

    at the end of the day there isn't actually very much to work off of

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Trans isn't a thing in japan.
      The only thing that's stated is that it's a boy who calls himself a girl, likely due to being the only male in the family.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >trans isn't a thing in Japan

        How many times do we have to go over this, anon?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So true.
          They had every single opportunity to earnestly portray Vivian as a trannie in the OG JP version, and they chose to have the narrator, as well as multiple other characters, refer to him as male nonetheless! If they wanted him to be a trannie, he would be, and yet he isn't!

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nintendo of america didn’t want anyone thinking mario was gay for being kissed and pursued by a manprostitute like vivian and instead decided to just completely change the gender
    the spanish and french scripts were basically one to one with the japanese and kept femboy vivian except italians which is the only og translation that has vivian as a troony

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This one character singlehandedly ruined all Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door threads
    Dawg this thing was never that good of a companion to begin with, you use it for Twilight Town and then switch it out for Goombella and never use it again, is all this bullshit really worth it for one mid sidekick?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing that ruined all TTYD threads was a handful of pearl clutching /misc/ schizos who don't actually play video games.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >BUT MUH /misc/!
        t. discord brigader

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fr bruh FR Vivian finna skibbidy Detroit mid AF Sheesh gyatt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder if this shitshow will deter nintendo from having any LGBT representation in the future, not like NoA/treehouse won't shoehorn it in regardless completely disregarding the original script unless they crack down hard on them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That'd be the best option.

        The only thing that ruined all TTYD threads was a handful of pearl clutching /misc/ schizos who don't actually play video games.

        The translation was genuinely unironically pozzed though. I think even the most dishonest leftoids would agree about it if you showed enough examples.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i am so fricking tired of you people

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