So when is GF gonna give us a more accurate version of stone edge?

So when is GF gonna give us a more accurate version of stone edge?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never because that would threaten CHARIZARD.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The whole point of Rock-type is that it's high risk high reward. Use literally any of the other 17 types in the game if you want accuracy, campaignshitter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the reward?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The reward is landing a high power move with a high crit rate that's super-effective against a huge chunk of the type chart.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fighting deals SE damage to even more typings without having to have bad accuracy baked into all of its attacks
          >b-but the ghost immunity!
          I don't think there's a single fighting type that doesn't have dark-type coverage, and even still, the tradeoff of being worthless against one type is a hell of a lot better than having a 10-20% chance to be worthless against any pokemon

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >fighting deals SE damage to even more typings
            6 types resist Fighting, one of which takes no damage from it altogether. It's not as effective as Rock which only has 3 resists. And plenty of Fighting moves have high risk baked into them as well such as Close Combat dropping your defenses and HJK dumpstering your HP if it misses.

            >B-BUH I CAN JUST USE OTHER TYPES
            Cool, do that for Rock then instead of sperging out and asking GF to change it to make up for your low skill at the game.

            >high risk high reward
            He says that as Game Freak has a track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon. I will not be taking "some Pokemon are supposed to be weak" and "extinct for a reason" as answers.

            >campaignshitter
            Frick you and the horse you rode in on. Anyone who uses this forced term will be ignored even if they have valid points for something, as the valid points will be taken from someone else who doesn't call people a "campaignshitter" instead.

            >He says that as Game Freak has a track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon
            Garganacl and Glimmora are two of the best Pokemon introduced in Gen 9. That sure is weird for a "track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon"

            >Anyone who uses this forced term will be ignored
            Why? Because you know the term is accurate and you're assblasted over it? lmao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Reshiram

              >Garganacl and Glimmora are two of the best Pokemon introduced in Gen 9. That sure is weird for a "track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon"
              I'm not going to try and make a counterpoint because you're just a dipshit who wants to bait people and pull out some shitty wojak "gotchas" you sound yourself with and use as a dildo.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Garganacl and Glimmora are two of the best Pokemon introduced in Gen 9
              ...for smogon
              I thought we weren't supposed to play singles??????

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You alright, schizo?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Coverage moves really don’t matter for this discussion they’re a component of individual Pokemon balancing not moves

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rock is super effective against Flying, Bug, Fire, and Ice and only resisted by Fighting, Steel, and Ground. Given the number of Pokemon that fall into these categories, it's very strong against a lot of meta threats, and not resisted by very many things.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so rock types not being a reliable type during a campaign, yet a super common and early route type, is a good thing for the franchise?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >high risk high reward
      He says that as Game Freak has a track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon. I will not be taking "some Pokemon are supposed to be weak" and "extinct for a reason" as answers.

      >campaignshitter
      Frick you and the horse you rode in on. Anyone who uses this forced term will be ignored even if they have valid points for something, as the valid points will be taken from someone else who doesn't call people a "campaignshitter" instead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        for

        The whole point of Rock-type is that it's high risk high reward. Use literally any of the other 17 types in the game if you want accuracy, campaignshitter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't really seem fair when rock type has so many weaknesses. If it were like steel, I could understand, but having many weaknesses and low accuracy just kind of sucks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know the buck is going to respond with a wojak he pulled out of his maggot-infested butthole to make a "gotcha" attempt do there's no point in doing so.

        >pic related
        What did Ganker mean by this???

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Headcanon bullshit-spouting Black person. Stealth rock is the most consistent move in the game. Tyranitar is the most consistent pokemon in the game in gens 3-5.

      Maybe "high risk high reward" could describe the design of something like archeops, but this isn't your average rock type.

      Power gem has perfect accuracy and 80 base power. But poor distribution, so even if the phys spec split hadn't happened, maybe no one would use it anyway, since just not enough things get.

      And most rock types are designed with a physically defensive stat spread. That doesn't scream "high risk, high reward" to me.

      >fighting deals SE damage to even more typings
      6 types resist Fighting, one of which takes no damage from it altogether. It's not as effective as Rock which only has 3 resists. And plenty of Fighting moves have high risk baked into them as well such as Close Combat dropping your defenses and HJK dumpstering your HP if it misses.

      >B-BUH I CAN JUST USE OTHER TYPES
      Cool, do that for Rock then instead of sperging out and asking GF to change it to make up for your low skill at the game.

      [...]
      >He says that as Game Freak has a track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon
      Garganacl and Glimmora are two of the best Pokemon introduced in Gen 9. That sure is weird for a "track record of intentionally fricking over Rock type Pokemon"

      >Anyone who uses this forced term will be ignored
      Why? Because you know the term is accurate and you're assblasted over it? lmao

      Garganacl is absurdly consistent, clicking salt cure is not "high risk high reward" at all. Even then this pokemon is most threatening when it teras out of its own rock type.

      You really make up bullshit as you go along.

      "high risk high reward" is not an inherent feature of any type, it's a feature of moves, and perhaps certain abilities, like hustle. But I think surf vs hydro pump better encapsulates the concept.

      It's obviously you do not play the game, you are only here to antagonize as many people as possible.

      Maybe you're esl so you have trouble communicating. But you really come across as a moronic butthole.

      Personally I do not even care whether GF makes accurate physical rock moves or not. Well, they already have, actually (they buffed rock tomb's accuracy from 80% to 95% in gen 6), they've also made strong accurate physical rock moves, but kept them exclusive (diamond storm in the past, now cudgel and mighty cleave). There could be others I'm not thinking of.

      OP may not have even been trying to buff rock type pokemon per se, he may have been thinking of stone edge as a coverage move for non-rock type pokemon. Regardless you're fricking insufferable, you don't deserve this reply from me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Stealth rock is the most consistent move in the game
        And it rarely sees any use outside of fanfic garbage.
        >Tyranitar is the most consistent pokemon in the game
        No it isn't. It's incredibly easy to frick up using Tyranitar.
        >Power gem has perfect accuracy and 80 base power
        And its distribution is virtually non-existent.
        >And most rock types are designed with a physically defensive stat spread
        While having piss poor special defense and many common weaknesses.

        >Even then this pokemon is most threatening when it teras out of its own rock type
        And why do you think that is?

        >is not an inherent feature of any type
        Yes it is. Do you think Game Freak made the most powerful Rock moves inaccurate by accident? Do you think Game Freak made Burn and Intimidate affect only physical stats but not special stats by accident? Do you think Game Freak made special Rock moves incredibly rare by accident?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Do you think Game Freak made special Rock moves incredibly rare by accident?
          Imagine trying to defend Game Freak on this.

          Special attacking Rock type Pokemon deserve more than just Ancient Power, Power Gem, and Meteor Beam. Knowing shitposters like you you're probably going to pull some disingenuous wojak "gotcha" out of your ass or make some shitty potshot towards Aurorus or another competitively unviable Pokemon in attempt to argue against Rock getting more special moves.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one is forcing you to use special rock moves.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sovlgay

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fun fact: Rock is the only type that's super effective against more types than ones that resist it, while also having no types that are immune to it

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    next gen, as a signature move that won't be distributed

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They did, it’s called cornerstone ivy cudgel, it even comes with a free 20 percent damage buff so it’s basically 120 BP

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it called rock slide?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Aurorus getting Power Gem is far more likely than what you want, Shaun. In fact, it very likely will in Legends Z-A since the move is no longer gatekept with asinine requirements of having gems. Now go ride your boar out of here.

    Get fricked.

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