So with so many people abandoning ship that D&Done hid their unsubscribe button, where do you think these sorts of players are going to flee to, in terms of alternative systems?
So with so many people abandoning ship that D&Done hid their unsubscribe button, where do you think these sorts of players are going to flee to, i...
Probably pathfinder
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Right back to d&d one
>where do you think these sorts of players are going to flee to, in terms of alternative systems?
Most of them are going to awkwardly test similar systems (Pathfinder) before puttering out because the flavor's different. 5e supported a vast population of mono-game babies because those people were trend-chasing theater kids who noticed CR playing "the most popular system in the world."
Ironic, isn't it? The system where the players cry the loudest for diversity are, themselves, incapable of diversifying their tabletop experiences.
they buy the pf2e beginner box
try it to play but too much crunch for 5e babby
go back to 5e
or just leave the hobby altogether
> Leave the hobby
If only.
They’re not even into the TTRPG hobby. They’re fans of Dnd only and not the game genre.
many companies are saying and claiming they will make a new game, the one that will apeal to the mases the most wins. so probably the most simple and with the least setup time.
ima play basic and advanced
CoC and other stuff with name-recognition.
But does corruption of champions really have that sort of recognition? Seems a little niche to me.
Wrong CoC.
Ah, I get it! But is Clash of Clans really that appealing to the masses? I haven't really followed mobile game trends since high school so I wouldn't know
5e has moved to a character centric community where the game doesn't matter and it's just a vehicle to play house with your OCs. The only thing they care about is the difference betwen an orc bard and a tiefling warlock. I bet they'll stay with DnDone.
PF.
It's equally woke shit, well known, and as supportive of different settings.
The sort of crowd who were playing 5e or CR is incapable of playing any other games.
Pathfinder will probably pick up steam, given it's the flagship of the ORC license and similar enough to D&D to let weirdos play the same sort of games.
>D&Done hid their unsubscribe button
...is this legal?
They haven't technically removed the ability to unsubscribe, you can still do so by manually inputting the web address, so yes, it's legal. Still, it's the exact same thing EA and Blizzard did when their own shitty decisions made customers demand refunds, so it's hardly best practice.
The FTC has taken a few steps in the last year or so, calling such techniques "dark patterns," but enforcement is iffy. However, WotC is kind of big so there might be enough of a stink about it to draw some legal fire.
It's called dark patterns and it's legal. Look how fucking hard it is to unsub from Prime where they ask you if you want to unsub like 4 times and switch the "yes" button to another place. Normies are like chicken so they just give up at the second click
My FLGS just sold out their PF2e stock today and are ordering more.
>D&Done hid their unsubscribe button
What?
>D&Done hid their unsubscribe button
That didn't actually happen, did it?
It did
I really hope wizards does the fashionable thing that all the big vidya companies are doing when there's mass outrage and further antagonizes the fans. It's probably gonna happen, the question is will it be accidental or intentional.
Pathfinder 2e of coursee
Pathfinder, it's more woke anyways so that's a plus for most of nu-DND players.
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They will follow Critical Role.
Why would they change system? You don't need subscription to an online platform to continue playing a game you already have the rules for.
Whatever their lord and savior, Matt Mercer, tells them to.
Some will try pathfinder (or roll back to 3.x) but 80% of them will be put off by the crunch and silently will crawl back to 5e and will eventually move to 6e if/when peer pressure demands it.
Some will try CoC because that's what some eceleb is shilling right now but 80% of them will be put off by the lack of freakshit and/or le ebil racis lovecraft and silently will crawl back to 5e and will eventually move to 6e if/when peer pressure.
Some will virtue signal by playing the kobold press clone (or some other d&d variant like 13th age or SotDL) but 80% of them will be put off by the the fact they are playing with the inferior off-brand™ and silently will crawl back to 5e and will eventually move to 6e if/when peer pressure.
Some will try an OSR game but 80% of them will be put off by the lack of freakshit and presumed high letality threatening their speciul pc and silently will crawl back to 5e and will eventually move to 6e if/when peer pressure.
Some will try a complete different game for once (fate, genesys, gurps, savage worlds, unknown armies, vtm, wfrp, etc...) but 80% of them will be put off by the sheer fact of not being with the cool boys anymore (the will feel alienated by not seeing their consoomed product not advertised enough by ecelebs) and silently will crawl back to 5e and will eventually move to 6e if/when peer pressure.
Of the 20% of player sticking with the system they have switched on 80% of them will lately drop off for lack of peer interest returning to normalfag shit.
Well it's like Dancey said, these systems might be good but at the end of the day they're not DnD and people want to play DnD as much as you or I would wish they would play something else.
They're probably going to keep playing 5E.
A few may move on to Pathfinder, but 5E players tend to like to stick to 5E and will just try to fit whatever game they have in mind in the frame of 5E. I can't really see a significant portion of players leaving for something like Call of Cthulhu for the reason I mentioned above, largely. Players are so used to just using 5E as a fix-all because that's what everyone knows how to play, the impression for a lot of players seems to be that those other systems like CoC, Conan, Champions, or VtM are simply too niche.
I think you people are seriously overestimating how involved the average person is in the RPG scene. Most people who play D&D probably don't even know that other RPGs exist. I'm fairly positive that a huge chunk of players wouldn't even know that other editions of D&D existed at all if "5E" wasn't a dead giveaway. Now yes, sure, people who are unsubbing from the subscription meme service are probably aware enough of this shit, but I think Hasbro/WoTC is not going to care that much because they're probably foreseeing an entire new generation of normalfags joining in.
Maybe it's me but I sincerely doubt that normies would be so proactive. Disney has been doing scummy shit and literally pushing chud agendas into children's shows, and parents complain about it, but they still pay for that Disney subscription and have their kids watch their shows where boys kiss each other and shit. Normies are literal chicken
>I'm fairly positive that a huge chunk of players wouldn't even know that other editions of D&D existed at all if "5E" wasn't a dead giveaway
Now who is the one overestimating idiots?
That has to be sarcastic. It cannot be, nobody can be this stupid
It's extremely low effort bait
In all fairness, to the average westerner, the final fantasy series went from 3 to 7 with no 4, 5, or 6.
Why do you think they will play another tabletop game? Plenty of people drop the hobby entirely and move on to do other stuff. They don't have to carry on role-playing or tabletop games at all.
DnDfags have always been morons who complain, but refuse to switch systems.
They enjoy their pig slop, and most will crawl back, but their shame will probably fade. From there, they will be subjected to other bs like DnDlc and other “you’ll own nothing and be happy” bs.
Wizards will remain a permanent pillar in the rpg scene and the smart kids will play in their new systems corner while DnDggers are slowly boiled in a pot to enjoy more abuse.
They are going nowhere, at most they will go to pathfinder which is just D&D with a different coat of paint.
Pathfinder before bowing out because anything similar has ways to make sure you play in the creator's sandbox and will either hamstring the DMs, if not outright going full Misery because the designers's world is the absolute best thing since sliced bread.