>International franchise >If we cater domestically that'll certainly make an impact on our revenue
And this is why you're not running the largest IP in history. Japan as a demographic could boycott Pokemon and the sales figures would only drop a few tens of millions on the scale of hundreds of millions. They go for generalized opinions, not nationalized ones.
Doesn't matter where the creators are, it's an interantional franchise so they'll cater to whatever's most generalized. Learn how business works, moron.
>Doesn't matter where the creators are
It matters immensely because most people making the games only speak japanese and thus get all their ideas and criticism from other japanese people. Learn how culture works, moron.
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guy they haven't made a japanese region in 15 years
2 years ago
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that's not really an argument, every non-jap region is a paper-thin vacation diorama
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>Most people making the games only speak Japanese!
Multinational staff including a lot of lead positions. >They can only see things domestically!!!
Just say you don't understand what an international company is. It's less autistic that way.
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>Multinational staff including a lot of lead positions.
Thats bullshit. Theres lists of the employees of gamefreak out there. You can easily see it's all japanese names. >international company
Bro you're the one who doesn't know what that is if you think gamefreak is one.
Goddamn Alpha Capitalist chad. Take notes dumb fricks; burning your Nike's was funny AF, to watch you dipshit racists lose your shit. Global demand is taking over company decisions.
But in all seriousness, where's the cute trainers?
This isn't even the Japanese majority either, this is a minority among minorities in the internet's underbelly who ultimately mean jack shit to the franchise as a whole.
Kids are still going to clamor for Pokemon and parents will oblige to shut them up, normalgays are still gonna buy it for the annual nostalgia romp, furries are still gonna buy it for the new frickable creatures, coomers are still gonna buy it for their new flavor of the year waifu, and Stockholm Syndrome tards are still gonna buy it in a deluded belief Pokemon will "get better" eventually if they just stick with the brand.
Because autists treat the japanese like monkeys at a zoo. They're 2ch tourists that come back here and share their opinions like anyone gives a frick. They don't think any different than the other idiots on here.
>I never understood the obsession with what japs think. They are not us, they don't matter,
But they matter, thats why people is obsessed with what they think
They are the main target audience, so their opinions have lot of way in the industry.
OF course with global market this is not as relevant as before, but it would be naive to not see japanese are still the main reference for products made on japan
Popularity has a bandwagon mechanic
Once its starts growing all products will like to take advantage from that. It will eventually fade away or mutate into the new popular thing. 'I support current thing' is a real mechanism of human culture amplified by globalism and social media.
It's not the translations that are fake, they're just not japanese posts. Those are posts taken from this board that have been translated to Japanese and then translated back in an attempt to make it seem like Japanese fans have the same complaints as here.
Everytime I see one of these screenshots, I can't help but assume the poster just posted a bit on a proxy with their 5th grade Japanese skills a few times, and then came back to post it on here
It also makes them look like they're getting colonized by westoid Ameribrained culture war shit, which is probably what's happening. Some weeb with an Asian fetish introducing Japanese 5ch incels to 2018 era youtube comments section vocab
ITT: no life incels from basket weaving forum mad that cartoon girls no make peepee hard showing off no life incels from other basket weaving forum also mad cartoon girl no make peepee hard
>le grusha trans
Holy fricking shit. Weve had bugsy for 20 years. Why is it suddenly wrong now. Weve had brown characters for the longest time, weve had sexual hags for the longest time. There is NOTHING more "woke" in this game that they havent done before already
>muh bugsy!
looks male more than female
Grusha is literally "Draw girl, call her boy" which is currently trending in Japanese games (Fate, SMTV, etc...)
You're confusing bishounen, bishoujo, ambiguous brown skin, traps, reverse traps, etc. with woke LGBT+Black person stuff. The former is acceptable, the latter should be burned in hell.
Im not doing that, thats what the idiots in OP are doing. Im saying claiming the shit is "woke" now is stupid because theyve ALWAYS done this
>muh bugsy!
looks male more than female
Grusha is literally "Draw girl, call her boy" which is currently trending in Japanese games (Fate, SMTV, etc...)
ITT: Ganker manchildren reacting to 5ch manchildren being manchildren and thinking it means Japan doesn't like it
Reality: it will sell like hotcakes and the world will love it.
this, the idea that japanese opinions are somehow more valuable or meaningful than other opinions is moronic, you can find japanese people whining about the games all the way back to XY and they still sell extremely well. you're just pretending these opinions you agree with matter more than the exponentially larger amount of opinions that like the games. it's escapism. are we really going to do this every time? pretend these are the games that are gonna spark some kind of outrage? trigger some widescale boycott? it's not fricking happening.
this, the idea that japanese opinions are somehow more valuable or meaningful than other opinions is moronic, you can find japanese people whining about the games all the way back to XY and they still sell extremely well. you're just pretending these opinions you agree with matter more than the exponentially larger amount of opinions that like the games. it's escapism. are we really going to do this every time? pretend these are the games that are gonna spark some kind of outrage? trigger some widescale boycott? it's not fricking happening.
Dude, he's the one telling you that the opinions you read on the internet don't reflect reality. Stop projecting to avoid the subject.
Woke stuff bombed like buzzlighyear against top gun, you fricks said the it was going to sell a lot, win against and be loved by the world
Guess what, it didn't happened
Pokemon will get away with it because its literally babby first franchise
I didn't say anything about Lightyear, dumbass, don't put words in my mouth. I don't give a frick about toy story. And how is Lightyear "woke" anyway? I never watched it. I heard it was bad because it was just stupid and boring, the only "woke" thing I heard about it was one gay kiss.
But then you have the new Thor movie that was gay as all frick and it made a ton of money at the box office even though it also sucked balls. But again not, it sucked because it was boring and stupid, it could have been gay and not fricked up the story.
lightyear bombed because it was a derivative, pointless film, not because it was woke. it's also moronic to compare it to top gun as if they were directed at remotely similar audiences.
5ch is literally just Japanese Ganker, instead of having israelites and black people rent free in their head, they freak out about Koreans and Chinese more often.
This is like neckbeards jerking each other off and like thinking niche otaku cultures represent the average Jap.
Are you saying that shut-in's with an unhealthy attachment to a waning children's franchise all tend to talk and think the same way, and whine about the exact same shit?
No way.
Well yeah, they do. You can't LIKE a good looking girl and still get to frick her. You have to treat her like shit and/or violate her. Good looking girls are turned off by being sucked up to.
Yeah that's why they make the most porn and pixiv is literally deviant art but in japanese right? because they definitively don't submit to the coomer bullshit!
Pokemon's chara design has always been cute, appealing and distinctive, and is one of the main reason of the franchise popularity. It's obvious there has been western influence in this game and that's a betrayal for all old fans. I can't imagine any of theses new characters generating as much Japanese fan arts as the previous pokegirls.
Fan arts generate fanmade promotion and hype. Out of all things this everlastingly stagnant franchise could have changed, they changed the one thing that was considered a quality by a majority of fans. They try to appeal new consoomers, but could lost much more old fans in the process.
>nobody gives a frick about autists making vore fetish illustrations on deviantar
big mistake. doujin, fanart, fanfics, porn, and lewds do a lot to keep a franchise relevant.
see furgays every year demanding a star fox game. you barely hear anything about f-zero.
Fan art is one of the biggest metric of fan engagement, popularity of a character, consistent popularity of a character and appeal. Literally free fan made promotion
You should be more curious about how hard you brain melted to the point where you, a homosexual that has played videogames his whole life, somehow forgot what "anime person in 3d" looks like most of the time.
Gamefreak fricked up when they decided to go with detailed textures and shaders, but the art style is clearly the same shit as usual.
Honestly the human designs in general for SV are just bland as frick.
It feels like they lost all their creativity when it comes to characters for this gen.
>it's another episode of leftoids thinking idpol shit is "appealing to an international audience"
Twitter =/= the global population
A vocal minority of emotional moral authoritarians on American social media sites (ones carefully curated to be echo chambers at that) have never once had any significant [positive] impact on product sales.
no one that actively participates in the culture war has any impact on sales in either direction, most consumers couldn't care less. certain flashpoint issues can motivate certain bases in a meaningful way but that would never happen for something like Pokemon that has already attained mass appeal
>vocal minority A is better than vocal minority B
being part of a huge fandom is so tiresome, i really wish this part of the discourse didn't consistently bleed over into /vp/
I never understood the obsession with what japs think. They are not us, they don't matter, and they have shit taste.
>us
speak for yourself, tard
It's because Pokemon is made by Japanese people so their opinions have the most potential impact on the series.
>International franchise
>If we cater domestically that'll certainly make an impact on our revenue
And this is why you're not running the largest IP in history. Japan as a demographic could boycott Pokemon and the sales figures would only drop a few tens of millions on the scale of hundreds of millions. They go for generalized opinions, not nationalized ones.
Irrelevant. Japanese people MAKE the games. Making > buying.
Doesn't matter where the creators are, it's an interantional franchise so they'll cater to whatever's most generalized. Learn how business works, moron.
>Doesn't matter where the creators are
It matters immensely because most people making the games only speak japanese and thus get all their ideas and criticism from other japanese people. Learn how culture works, moron.
guy they haven't made a japanese region in 15 years
that's not really an argument, every non-jap region is a paper-thin vacation diorama
>Most people making the games only speak Japanese!
Multinational staff including a lot of lead positions.
>They can only see things domestically!!!
Just say you don't understand what an international company is. It's less autistic that way.
>Multinational staff including a lot of lead positions.
Thats bullshit. Theres lists of the employees of gamefreak out there. You can easily see it's all japanese names.
>international company
Bro you're the one who doesn't know what that is if you think gamefreak is one.
>interantional
>moron
I mean I'm not disagreeing with you, but if you're trying to act smart, try not to make errors like this.
It's not a spelling error it's a typo.
Goddamn Alpha Capitalist chad. Take notes dumb fricks; burning your Nike's was funny AF, to watch you dipshit racists lose your shit. Global demand is taking over company decisions.
But in all seriousness, where's the cute trainers?
Pokemon sells more outside of Japan. It's tailored to americans. Japs would rather play... anything else.
Typical mutt behavior.
What dogs?
Huh?
A mutt is a dog
Yeah, but why are you using the Ganker equivalent
Why not
because that's like claiming the Ganker posters represent english speakers
Anon, the whole image is fake to begin with, it's a fricking low effort shitpost.
>delusion: lvl up!
Its real, check a 2ch archive or something.
You can argue that posts like them exist, but you're a lying homosexual if you're saying you can cite those exact posts without actually doing so.
Pokemon hasn't been a Japanese franchise since gen 4.
HMMMMMMMMMMM
Luckily japs that browse their version of this website are not people, like here.
This isn't even the Japanese majority either, this is a minority among minorities in the internet's underbelly who ultimately mean jack shit to the franchise as a whole.
Kids are still going to clamor for Pokemon and parents will oblige to shut them up, normalgays are still gonna buy it for the annual nostalgia romp, furries are still gonna buy it for the new frickable creatures, coomers are still gonna buy it for their new flavor of the year waifu, and Stockholm Syndrome tards are still gonna buy it in a deluded belief Pokemon will "get better" eventually if they just stick with the brand.
This is true japs have the worst taste in everything
And yet you gays buy their shit mainly.
Because autists treat the japanese like monkeys at a zoo. They're 2ch tourists that come back here and share their opinions like anyone gives a frick. They don't think any different than the other idiots on here.
Hello Ganker tourist. Isn't it time to go home?
Based Nips telling it how it is.
Seethe more, homosexual. Only westoids would get angry at those comments, which are all true, by the way.
YWNBJ
Because most people on this site are weeaboos and desperate seek the approval of Japanese people.
yet you are consooming and shilling a Japanese product
kys, paid shill Americ**t
>I never understood the obsession with what japs think. They are not us, they don't matter,
But they matter, thats why people is obsessed with what they think
They are the main target audience, so their opinions have lot of way in the industry.
OF course with global market this is not as relevant as before, but it would be naive to not see japanese are still the main reference for products made on japan
>they have shit taste
and yet you enjoy Japanese products and partake in discussions about said Japanese series.
Not him but Japanese creators are not the same as Japanese consumers
Why is this aesthetic being forced everywhere so hard all of a sudden?
It's just how high schoolers are dressing now.
And some of my aunts.
Gotta appeal to the woke culture
Popularity has a bandwagon mechanic
Once its starts growing all products will like to take advantage from that. It will eventually fade away or mutate into the new popular thing. 'I support current thing' is a real mechanism of human culture amplified by globalism and social media.
What aesthetic? The three SV girls pictured have three different aesthetics. High-class bawd aesthetic, shut-in aesthetic, and prep aesthetic.
>le woke
Im almost certain these frickers dont play pokemon. NONE of the shit they mentioned is new to the series
That's because it's a fake translation designed to rile up vp. Nothing new
Its pretty spot on
Sorry, what i meant was the comments were fabricated
yours, yeah
Yeah, like why do they have a problem with Grusha? womanly looking men has been a thing in anime for years.
Only comment about grusha is being surprised its a dude, its mostly commenting how the female characters are ugly (they are)
They don't. This is a fake post, moron.
easy with the gaslighting
nah i can read japanese its all real. polikore is the japanese buzzword for political correct.
It's not the translations that are fake, they're just not japanese posts. Those are posts taken from this board that have been translated to Japanese and then translated back in an attempt to make it seem like Japanese fans have the same complaints as here.
>moron literally has never went to 2ch
ROFL COASTER
This one gets it.
Literally go to 2ch and lurk hard for a moment, stupid fricker.
Post proof where it was ever as bad as it is right now
Gen 4
I accept your concession
Confession denied.
>10~ japanese shitposters represent the entire nation
mom i posted it again
kys
Post link to source
Its pretty clear where it is from
If you dont know then lurk more
If its not from here then I dont see how thats relevant
Everyone knows it's 5ch, nobody reads fricking Japanese though
I really hope you guys stop doing this. It's just like Japs translating a random Ganker thread, so awkward.
I know you guys are obsessed with Penny right now, but what's exactly with the other 2?
Honestly the one on the right has a bit of manface going on thanks to the eyebrows, girl needs to learn how to trim.
more like penis
It's how Euro women look like, so I don't see much cause for concern.
Japan makes a smaller percentage of the game market. Most sales are in the west now.
Post source
>japan posters with identical typing habits and lingo to Ganker users
Sure OP cool translation, I totally believe you
>it's literally japanese Ganker
fricking brainlet
It's not Japanese Ganker, that's English Ganker translated to Japanese.
Everytime I see one of these screenshots, I can't help but assume the poster just posted a bit on a proxy with their 5th grade Japanese skills a few times, and then came back to post it on here
It also makes them look like they're getting colonized by westoid Ameribrained culture war shit, which is probably what's happening. Some weeb with an Asian fetish introducing Japanese 5ch incels to 2018 era youtube comments section vocab
Japs are even more incely
>Hmm
>No characters that resonate with my dick
kek
ITT: no life incels from basket weaving forum mad that cartoon girls no make peepee hard showing off no life incels from other basket weaving forum also mad cartoon girl no make peepee hard
shut up prostitute
Yeah, and?
>ITT blablabla I don't like thread
Leave
>Autists go apeshit when their 10 year old girl isn't deemed a high-art dicky fap.
Just wank to melonie.
please.
>Reddit Gear Rising
You are in the pokemon board.
>the game's soul gets taken over completely
Baby, this franchise's soul has been gone for years
There's no rock bottom, anon. Thing always can go even worse (and they do).
why should I care? especially about Japanese version of Ganker?
>44 posters
>70 replies
A few Twittergays make a lot of noise, but ultimately can't even samegay properly.
Less than two posts per IP, kys shitter
That's far from a schizo thread tourist. Try 1/10.
>Even Japan hates woke culture
israelite sisters...
>Opinion of terminally online Japs
who cares? May as well screenshot a thread from /vp/ and make a thread about that
based sister
let's post more Grusha trans threads xD
>le grusha trans
Holy fricking shit. Weve had bugsy for 20 years. Why is it suddenly wrong now. Weve had brown characters for the longest time, weve had sexual hags for the longest time. There is NOTHING more "woke" in this game that they havent done before already
>muh bugsy!
looks male more than female
Grusha is literally "Draw girl, call her boy" which is currently trending in Japanese games (Fate, SMTV, etc...)
You're confusing bishounen, bishoujo, ambiguous brown skin, traps, reverse traps, etc. with woke LGBT+Black person stuff. The former is acceptable, the latter should be burned in hell.
Im not doing that, thats what the idiots in OP are doing. Im saying claiming the shit is "woke" now is stupid because theyve ALWAYS done this
That has been a thing in anime since inception
wouldn't care too much
Pokemon should had never left Japan as their inspiration for the setting. Yes gen V was a mistake.
their opinions are valid but there is nothing wrong with thick eyebrows, c'mon
Nip comments got completely irrelevant when they defended dexit lmao
ITT: Ganker manchildren reacting to 5ch manchildren being manchildren and thinking it means Japan doesn't like it
Reality: it will sell like hotcakes and the world will love it.
this, the idea that japanese opinions are somehow more valuable or meaningful than other opinions is moronic, you can find japanese people whining about the games all the way back to XY and they still sell extremely well. you're just pretending these opinions you agree with matter more than the exponentially larger amount of opinions that like the games. it's escapism. are we really going to do this every time? pretend these are the games that are gonna spark some kind of outrage? trigger some widescale boycott? it's not fricking happening.
You're obsessed, lay down the internet for some days
Dude, he's the one telling you that the opinions you read on the internet don't reflect reality. Stop projecting to avoid the subject.
Woke stuff bombed like buzzlighyear against top gun, you fricks said the it was going to sell a lot, win against and be loved by the world
Guess what, it didn't happened
Pokemon will get away with it because its literally babby first franchise
I didn't say anything about Lightyear, dumbass, don't put words in my mouth. I don't give a frick about toy story. And how is Lightyear "woke" anyway? I never watched it. I heard it was bad because it was just stupid and boring, the only "woke" thing I heard about it was one gay kiss.
But then you have the new Thor movie that was gay as all frick and it made a ton of money at the box office even though it also sucked balls. But again not, it sucked because it was boring and stupid, it could have been gay and not fricked up the story.
>buzz
literal who lol
If with the dexcut meltdown SWSH still sold like hotcakes, the same will happen with SV
Stop being delusional
lightyear bombed because it was a derivative, pointless film, not because it was woke. it's also moronic to compare it to top gun as if they were directed at remotely similar audiences.
nips just consoom and they are the reason shit designs, they are the only like stunfisk and other crap memeons
they like shitty characters design like emmet and ingo too lol
>seems to be in consideration of the LGBTQs
I fricking love these guys
5ch is literally just Japanese Ganker, instead of having israelites and black people rent free in their head, they freak out about Koreans and Chinese more often.
This is like neckbeards jerking each other off and like thinking niche otaku cultures represent the average Jap.
They should have wanted to stab Avery with a kitchen knife. I hate Avery's design the most so far.
You learn nothing. You'll end up buying the wrong game again. You'll be getting another shit character like Avery.
Those are not JP posts.
is this the part where we pretend these people aren't a vocal minority, just like the vocal minority of whiners on this board?
>make ugly characters
>only a minority will call them ugly
Are you saying that shut-in's with an unhealthy attachment to a waning children's franchise all tend to talk and think the same way, and whine about the exact same shit?
No way.
japan is the motherland of incels. No surprise
>only incels like good looking girls
Well yeah, they do. You can't LIKE a good looking girl and still get to frick her. You have to treat her like shit and/or violate her. Good looking girls are turned off by being sucked up to.
I didn’t think Japanese people actually had opinions and thoughts. I can never understand them so I thought they were like animals or something.
This is fake. Btw, you must be 18 to post here.
kys
Doesn't matter sv will still sell and the girls from the next gen will look even blander.
I thought people liked the cavewoman professor.
>Poricore Getto daze!
?
Basically "political correctness is gotten!"
Getto da ze is Ash's catchphrase in the anime that he says whenever he gets a new Pokemon/badge/etc. There's no real English equivalent.
Based japs! They still have more taste than the standard braindead coomer of /vp/.
This! Why are Japs so based!? I hate /vp/ so goddamn much.
I don't hate /vp/. Are you implying all of /vp/ are braindead trainers?
Yeah that's why they make the most porn and pixiv is literally deviant art but in japanese right? because they definitively don't submit to the coomer bullshit!
Based Japs, all these Gen 9 designs look like absolute shit
What's wrong with the tomboyish girl on the right? I think is better than the two other trannies
it's a super boring design
penny resonates with my dick tbqh
>no character that resonate with my dick
Based nips
as long as they dont buy the game...
Based japs denouncing porikore and demanding firthy gaijin to keep their hands off their games. Keep up the good fight.
Don't care didn't read
Stop bumping this shit
we all know they're going to buy it anyways
pokemon is doomed
/thread
Look! There are incels in Japan too! Now my opinion is validated!
They’re still incels like you anon, they just eat more ramen
>yass everyone who insults my comfort series is an incel
Pokemon's chara design has always been cute, appealing and distinctive, and is one of the main reason of the franchise popularity. It's obvious there has been western influence in this game and that's a betrayal for all old fans. I can't imagine any of theses new characters generating as much Japanese fan arts as the previous pokegirls.
fan art doesn't generate money, nobody gives a frick about autists making vore fetish illustrations on deviantart
Fan arts generate fanmade promotion and hype. Out of all things this everlastingly stagnant franchise could have changed, they changed the one thing that was considered a quality by a majority of fans. They try to appeal new consoomers, but could lost much more old fans in the process.
>nobody gives a frick about autists making vore fetish illustrations on deviantar
big mistake. doujin, fanart, fanfics, porn, and lewds do a lot to keep a franchise relevant.
see furgays every year demanding a star fox game. you barely hear anything about f-zero.
Fan art is one of the biggest metric of fan engagement, popularity of a character, consistent popularity of a character and appeal. Literally free fan made promotion
God, I'm actually missing Gen 8's style, because good lord the Gen 9 faces are fricking terrible
AAAAAAAAH GEN 9 IS SO UGLY
Abloo bloo cry harder boomoid shitheel
Are you unironically insane? Those comparisons are clearly the same art style, one is just not going for cel-shading.
what's the point of making disingenuous shitposts like this, actually curious
You should be more curious about how hard you brain melted to the point where you, a homosexual that has played videogames his whole life, somehow forgot what "anime person in 3d" looks like most of the time.
Gamefreak fricked up when they decided to go with detailed textures and shaders, but the art style is clearly the same shit as usual.
The noses are completely different. Tell me that's not a difference in artstyle
The girl in tge white dress is actually pretty Pokemon styled. The troony and the girl in uptights look weird, yeah
Honestly the human designs in general for SV are just bland as frick.
It feels like they lost all their creativity when it comes to characters for this gen.
>when it comes to characters
did you forget my mom's pig
Cause Pokemon never had basic animals as the first route fodder?
What a true and definitely not grasping at nothing angle.
>it was always shit!
no shit sherlock
The problem is with how shit the models look. I don't know why they decided to go for a new art style but it looks awful.
Nobody cares what horny nips think, at least they aren't as pathetic as /vp/ coomers though and actually have standards
Don't care, didn't read. They can keep their jigglypuffes to themselves
Still gunna make my character a cutie girl with blonde hair, blue eyes, and fair skin.
>it's another episode of leftoids thinking idpol shit is "appealing to an international audience"
Twitter =/= the global population
A vocal minority of emotional moral authoritarians on American social media sites (ones carefully curated to be echo chambers at that) have never once had any significant [positive] impact on product sales.
no one that actively participates in the culture war has any impact on sales in either direction, most consumers couldn't care less. certain flashpoint issues can motivate certain bases in a meaningful way but that would never happen for something like Pokemon that has already attained mass appeal
>Quoting 5ch
more like degenerate comments
If you google ポケモンポリコレ (pokemon pc) you will find a shitload of results. not even impressed
>vocal minority A is better than vocal minority B
being part of a huge fandom is so tiresome, i really wish this part of the discourse didn't consistently bleed over into /vp/