Somehow a failing, broke studio made the best RPG of all time

Somehow a failing, broke studio made the best RPG of all time

I don't even like vampire shit that much but goddamn, how did they make a game so good?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You think that's crazy? Gothic I was made as a tech demo.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even close to the best RPG

      And it shows

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        gay

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Truth

          Best rpg ever made.

          For reals, though as someone else said Fallout New Vegas is a decent competitor

          its so fucking boring

          no u

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because Activision gave them a lot of money to make it. They only went broke after they finished the job.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout: New Vegas didn’t have vampires in it though the rest applies. VTMBs a close second and would’ve been first without the terrible FPS ending missions

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you will never believe it but guess what? Same people who made VTMB made New Vegas.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Fallout: New Vegas
      Fair shout, but for me it will always be VTMB. It is definitely one of those two for best of all time though.

      It's not even close to the best RPG

      And it shows

      loser

      you will never believe it but guess what? Same people who made VTMB made New Vegas.

      I actually didn't know that, cool

      >combat suxx
      No, it's actually fine. It's nothing special but it is fine, especially if you disregard melee and embrace powers + ranged. Then it stops being a button masher.
      Speccing hard into stealth is the best anyway, though it does come back to bite you with 2 or 3 boss fights.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      poor man was born without a tongue

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      FNV is my favorite game ever because it of all RPGs that I played this one has got to be the closest of them all to truly respecting the RP aspect, and the freedom of choise that it requires.
      If I play Dragon Age: Origins as a city elf - my character's options when being told that they are forced into a marriage they did not agree to was to either get happily married or throw an angsty hissyfit and get married (before being beated unconcious by a flamboyant fruity boy that I killed 1v3 5 minutes later, no less). The warden is merely a puppet of the narrative, I just had a humble vhpise in which strings would be pulled from time to time. In New Vegas that same character would've already been on the other side of the country with 60% of their gay father's valuables before he got even halfway through his shpiel about respecting traditions.
      Games for this feel? Seriously, I want more of that shit.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3 smart white guys

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Back then people used passion to develop their games because the industry wasn't corporatized mainstrain yet, which allowed people to take risks and add things to a game just because they wanted to.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >which allowed people to take risks and add things to a game just because they wanted to
      Yes.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Political commentary back then used to be candid, so regardless of what you believe in you still appreciate the satire. Look at Deus ex. Now this stuff is pushed by literal billionairs in high towers which completely diminishes them of all soul.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          We've come a long way since then. Damsel is pretty much the only politically cringe person but she is portrayed as cringe so it works.

          The sequel will lionise her, it's gonna suck so bad

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Old political commentary laughed with the player. Modern political commentary laughs at them.

          Big brain people in this thread.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Old political commentary laughed with the player. Modern political commentary laughs at them.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >onlyFangs
        Thats so right that I hate it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >pic
        The game wasn't pushing an agenda, it brought in politics to make a joke. For example Damsel is a communist but her argument for it is that it would work with vampires ... because it just would okay!

        If I mistype this fucking captcha one more time...

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's simply not possible anon. Everything is always literal when is comes to politics, no exceptions ever because tribes or something.

          Ya pinko bastard

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          wtf i thought no politics in games.... this is literally as bad as one black guy in videogame.
          Kys!

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Goddamn I miss the 00s bros

    Goth aesthetic and unashamed boobage coomerism in vidya

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Hyper sexualization wasn't just allowed but fully endorsed, even expected (since the "sex sells" mantra was in full effect)
      >Social media barely existed outside of nerd forums and Neopets
      >Goth and Emo media in full swing
      >Attitude era in WWE, unmatched to this day
      >Animated movies were 10/10 kino still talked about to this day
      >Open markets meaning you had a hundred different companies trying to offer the same thing as opposed to today where 1 maybe 2 companies even bother to try
      >Willful culling of dumb fucks by sending them to their graves in Iraq
      >Flash games
      >Tourist trap places were a LOT more quiet, like Japan
      00s were kino. Barely remember the 10s outside of culture wars, Gamegate and Obama/Trump

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The fact they made this on an alpha version of the Source engine without proper documentation is pretty fucking insane (overlooking the bugs)

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The facial animations are still top tier, even so many years later. How did they do it?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Access to (again, an alpha version of) Source Film Maker or whatever variant they had at the time plus a heavy lean into cartoonish characters instead of realism means they could be more expressive.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Realism was a mistake

          They also had top tier VAs in literally every character. I struggle to think of a better cast game for VAs

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing about this game wow'd me. The art style, especially the characters, was really ugly, the combat wasn't satisfying other than the melee combat which was kind of fun, and the writing was boring and predictable. It did get a laugh from me though when I kept finding journals where the person was writing a play by play of their death as it was happening.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok to have severely bad taste anon

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck yeh

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Man, I really want a game just like this, but with werewolves. They only get the shitty games. Not furry btw.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Man, I really want a game just like this
      I've been wanting any game just like this since 2004. Can you believe this game is 18 years old? Fucking hell, man. Fuck.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I remember playing this when it first came out and thinking there would be at least 10 other rpgs as good as it by now. Lol. Lmao.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Man, I really want a game just like this, but with werewolves. They only get the shitty games. Not furry btw.

        Me too, but I especially want a nWoD game, and that time has almost definitely passed.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It’s a great game but saying it’s the best is going a bit far
    >combat gets stale quick and never adds more depth
    >this is made worse by several endgame missions that are pure combat slogs
    >no clan specific missions means you’ve seen most of the content on the first play through
    >the different ways you can complete a quest are almost always inconsequential e.g persuasion just skipping sections of content to do things faster
    >main story is extremely linear and gets tiring
    >the bugs
    Still loved it, but let’s not pretend it deserves only praise

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >combat gets stale quick and never adds more depth
      If you strictly stick to melee, sure. Not the game's fault you lack the effort to span out. Besides, it's an RPG. The combat is fine and doesn't have to be fantastic.

      >this is made worse by several endgame missions that are pure combat slogs
      Conceded, endgame is rushed and it shows. The studio ran out of time. First half mogs the second half, nobody disagrees.

      >no clan specific missions means you’ve seen most of the content on the first play through
      Like Bethesda games, you have to grant VTMB while including mods since the game was broken on release. Mods = the game, and mods include clan quests.

      >>the different ways you can complete a quest are almost always inconsequential e.g persuasion just skipping sections of content to do things faster
      So like pretty much every other RPG. This one is just better than the rest.

      >main story is extremely linear and gets tiring
      Bad take. You have poor taste if that's your opinion, sorry.

      >the bugs
      Sure, but let's be fair and judge the game on how it works with mods. Because that's how literally everyone plays it. I've been playing the game since like 2007 and I've never encountered a serious bug. Not once.

      >Still loved it, but let’s not pretend it deserves only praise
      No game is perfect but this is as close as it gets.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Best rpg ever made.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of mystery and thriller. You never know what is avout to come next.
    Its not a #16362727 generic medieval rpg about some dude who gets plate armor and beats dragons inside some caves

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    its so fucking boring

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      gay

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    1.2 is my sweet spot. 1.1 is good too and 1.3 is fun from time to time but anything more just starts getting silly.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Money 1.5

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >see big titty vampire
    >suck big titty from big titty vampire
    >it's blood

    Vampire tits suck

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    did anyone ever mod venus dare to have better tits instead of the crappy cleavage texture?

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    still not as good as fallout 3

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because Arcanum and such. Give it a play sometime, very good game, IMO Troika's better work even if VTMB is comfier.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Writing, especially in dialogue carries it. Even random NPCs manage to make you grin like a moron.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not to derail the thread, but I just tripped across this and it reminded me how god awful this Bloodlines 2 trailer was.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That trailer showed that they had no idea how to market the game

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Everything about that game was a trainwreck. Probably for the best if it's never made.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's fucking pain that we will never see what Mitsoda had written. No journo even bothered to dig and reveal just what the fuck happened. They've scrapped everything.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          There's no fucking way we don't eventually hear at least non-specifically what happened.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It falls off hard after Santa Monica and Downtown, even Downtown itself is odd, no main story quests want you to explore it. Hollywood is the worst and Chinatown's only redeeming qualities are a few side quests.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Chinatown sucks, I will give you that, but Hollywood is perfectly fine and underrated. I'd even say Hollywood is way better than Downtown.

      Everything about that game was a trainwreck. Probably for the best if it's never made.

      I still pray it gets cancelled so we don't have to suffer with woke vampires.

      It's fucking pain that we will never see what Mitsoda had written. No journo even bothered to dig and reveal just what the fuck happened. They've scrapped everything.

      Still can't believe they hired him then cancelled him and deleted all of his work to start over. You just know it was some blue haired woke lesbian who got him fired.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Chinatown sucks, I will give you that, but Hollywood is perfectly fine and underrated. I'd even say Hollywood is way better than Downtown.

      [...]
      I still pray it gets cancelled so we don't have to suffer with woke vampires.

      [...]
      Still can't believe they hired him then cancelled him and deleted all of his work to start over. You just know it was some blue haired woke lesbian who got him fired.

      I'd say santa monica was the peak of the game, but both downtown and hollywood are still great.
      Chinatown is the point where it just drops off a fucking cliff imo (still has some great sidequests though).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The game certainly peaks in the first act, but after that it still has good heights. The Hollywood death porn plot is very decent. And I still think the main story with LaCroix is very good.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the combat sucks though, but everything else is triple A plus ultra

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >"this game is soooo good!"
    >gameplay is dogshit
    Why is this such a common occurrence?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Video games are more than just action, gay. There were fucking space fight games on punch card mainframes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      just play tremere bro

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because gameplay is ironically not the most important feature about a game, and this has been proven time and again when you see most people's favorite games. If gameplay was so important, games would have never progressed past Tetris and Pong.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        VTMB and Fallout NV are the best RPGs of all time despite both having very basic and repetitive combat.

        People may say FONV is better, but that's just because they play VTMB and don't explore the combat options, instead just button mashing fire axe.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Best boy

    Broke my heart that he suffered a gruesome death in the endgame

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      he doesnt have to die iirc

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >can't blush of life and share a donut and your donut

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Everything aside, how can a game not be great when it has such unapologetic coomer bait?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off, retard. Go jerk to imhentai or something

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You are literally a gay or something, opinion discarded

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      In this game there would actually be a reason though since they are vampires they survive by seducing mortals.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Playing fem tremere. Why is she so skinny? Reminds me of my high school friend who thought she was a vampire but clearly in hindsight was just harshly sexually abused and coping

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      she was probably asking for it in some way

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        My best memory with her was when we skipped class and climbed a hill, then she pulled out some homemade strawberry vodka. I was a hopeless virgin back then, if only I'd known that would have a great moment to make a move on her. She was as hot as a nerdy girl can be.

        Skinny was in back then. The whole game is a mid-2000s time capsule of what everyone thought was cool.

        True. Back then skinny was the thing, not like now where everyone worships fat asses. Degeneracy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Skinny was in back then. The whole game is a mid-2000s time capsule of what everyone thought was cool.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    tremerefu

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      My chud alarm went off at that picture

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        k

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        rent free

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'm only playing tremere this time because I've never seen their haven, but the tremere bitch is ugly af while the male tremere looks like a complete gay with his bad haircut and ugly side burns, not to mention his piercings.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >playing a gothic ass game and not liking goth chicks
        what a pleb

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I have masturbated to fem nos, so you have nothing on me. Nothing.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah well I suck dicks, gay.

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