Sonic was never a good game, neither was Mortal Kombat

Back in the 90s, Sonic ONLY got popular due to the coolness factor. SoA always tried to make fun of Nintendo and be the "cooler", more "adult" option. Sonic is shit, the games have poor design where you just keep running until you hit something, or learn the stage inside and out so that it actually becomes playable.

Same with Mortal Kombat. First game ONLY got famous for all the blood and gore, not because it had better gameplay than Street Fighter or Fatal Fury.

It's also very telling that neither Sonic nor Mortal Kombat ever got popular in Japan. Only in the west where people think it's more important to be seen as "cool" than to enjoy a fun game.

https://strawpoll.com/eNg69WM68nA

  1. 2 weeks ago
    sage

    >Sonic was nev-ACK
    cope gay
    Sonic has always been cool

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool yes, but his games were always shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but his games were always shit
        Objectively false, the Genesis trilogy, Unleashed, Colors, Generations and Mania are all great you pessimistic gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          + Advance trilogy, Rush Duology, Colors DS, Riders, and probably superstars

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Rush Duology
            All style, no substance.
            >Riders
            Sonic in name only, we'd have to start adding shit like Tails Adventure and Spinball to the list.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds like you're gay unfortunately. Tails Adventure is a good game btw

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ur gay if you acknowledge Rush has awful level design.
                I want you to defend Blaze's Altitude Limit right now. I love Rush, but it's not a good game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for me, it's Sonic CD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fbbp. OP is a gay retard

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Except the main Sonic titles for the Genesis/Megadrive are really good and still talked about today in their strong design. There's an argument to be made that Sonic 1 wasn't all that good, as it's easily the weakest of the them, but 2 and 3&K are far and away considered great classics. Being contrarian on this doesn't make you right or smart and using design you personally dislike doesn't make it bad. The simplicity of getting from point A to point B is what makes 2D platformers great.

    Now, you're 100% right about Mortal Kombat. It's pretty telling that there's no big scene based around the early games. They're spectacles and that's all they're really good for.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2 and 3 are shit as well. They're all about running faster than you can react, then hit an enemy, lose all your rings and start over.

      They only way to enjoy Sonic games is by learning the stages inside and out. It's shit design.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get better at video games. Just stop being bad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, you just have shit taste and shit skills.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >drive through intersection at 90 kilometers per mile
        >get t-boned
        What the FUCK how was I supposed to know not to drive through when the light's red? I just want to go fast like the guy at the dealership said I could, I don't want to learn all these fucking stupid rules. That's shit design.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get good

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zoomer cope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have you tried, I don't know, gittin gud?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shitter

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even then the animation in the modern MK games are dogshit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the games are heckin' great because conformism says so!!!
      >that you personally are contrarian doesn't mean conformism says the games are bad
      Geez that's really interesting, thanks for making that clear buddy!

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP was never heterosexual
    Fix your typo friend 🙂

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MK1 > SF1

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im going to agree

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True but SFII > any Mortal Kombat ever made.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even Street Fighter The Movie The Game?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic became popular in North America, Europe and South America during the 90s
    >hurr he wasn't popular on this small nip island so he failed
    Yeah ok homo

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Notice how no one can prove me wrong when I say Sonic is shit until you memorise the stages inside and out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played Sonic 2 like a hundred times and still have no idea where anything is, still love the game. Consider yourself proven wrong.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So please tell me how you can love a game where you just keep running until you hit something that is impossible to react to because of the speed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you hit something that is impossible to react to because of the speed
          skill issue

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LOL no. There's no way any human is able to react to an enemy at the speed Sonic runs. You need to memorise the stage.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Doubling down on crying like a bitch ain't gonna make it any more true, just stop being shit at games, sista, it's not hard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                trying to sound cool and be edgy is exactly what Sonic did, but you're still empty and retarded inside.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cry harder, bitch moron. You're the one struggling with a game made for kids and have the gall to call anyone else retarded? lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's certainly possible so long as your brain is at least as developed as a 5 year olds

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It simply isn't. But I'm tired of your bullshit now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look anon, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If you're emulating the originals on a display with input lag, yeah, I can see them having that issue.

          Try these out, play a level or two, see if they don't feel better. For me personally, I got a new perspective on all the games after playing them this way.
          https://mega.nz/folder/VC8m3KKK#1uPokCSWN83wy4Uz2TeaPA

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >needlemouse
            Erm.... actually his name was just Mr. Hedgehog. Needlemouse is just a literal translation.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sonic 4 was literally called Project Needlemouse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is probably just Hedgehog for the japs and badly translated in English?. It's still wrong buddy. Plus using 4 for your argument...lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As opposed to listening to a criminal who hasn't even worked at the company in decades?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah? Just cus he's a dumbass doesn't change the fact that needlemouse is misinfo that spread everywhere. You could probably ask Ohshima the same thing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >misinfo
                It's really not, but I'll take your word for it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is there no shading on the right arm?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is the CD comp bundled with Restored, shields plus and knuckles?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn shame that the Restored guy is so autistic and kept intentionally cucking other modders.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Has the mod been updated? I haven't touched any of the mods I installed cus it works for me just fine. I just have the mod to let us choose the ost instead of getting the fusion ost forced on you. Last mod I downloaded was CD styled Sonic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Constantly. He's been updating it obsessively for years. And he kept (intentionally) breaking & Knuckles compatibility, so the & Knuckles guy gave up and implemented his own tweaks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what's the definitive mod list for CD? What I have now works for me but it'll probably get outdated with mods that improve the game and such

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The version that gets passed around in the Mega is the best version, sadly. You either lose Knuckles for a lot of hyper specific, niche fixes or you download the modern & Knuckles version for broader mod compatibility and changes that make it a bit less faithful to the SCD version.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is it compatible with CD refined?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno, man. I've given up on CD modding, it's a headache unlike the 1-3 scene.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn shame that the Restored guy is so autistic and kept intentionally cucking other modders.

                He's an Amyfag so of course he's a freak retard. The playable Amy from Restored sucks anyway, Knuckles is way better.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Advance 1 is still the best Amy moveset, imo. The way the 3K mod handles her is okay too.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the only good moveset. Anything that gives her a spindash or spin jump sucks. She should have a hammer swing dash attack like in Rayman Origins/ Legends tho. Could gain her speed and kill enemies and maybe bounce off walls if you swing in the air.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said, I think the 3K moveset is reasonable. Superstars isn't what I want but it seems fine. The three things I think Amy really needs in a moveset are
                >Hammer as an attack, whether that's a dedicated button or the hammer dash Origins and Superstars go for.
                >Her quick-start dash to contrast with everyone else's spin dash. Again, the hammer dash is a decent substitute.
                >The ability to use her hammer to launch herself. It was the best decision they made in Adventure 1 and Advance's two versions (mid-run like Adventure, on springs to add a multiplier to her velocity) were both fantastic.
                Advance 1, 3k mod, Forever's "Advance-esque" moveset and Superstars are all good enough imo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Advance Amy is fun, but it's understandable why they didn't want the cute pink girl character to be the hard mode like she was in Advance.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that's why I think Superstar's version is okay even if it's not great.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That makes her more interesting tho. Makes her more unique and has her earn her spot in the main group instead of being forced in and suddenly capable in the same way every one else is for some reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but imagine you're playing co-op with your little sister, she picks Amy because she's the cute pink girl, and keeps getting BTFO because she doesn't have the basic kit all the other characters do.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you're playing co op then you'd be able to help her out. Also they have the nsmb bubble mechanic anyway so it really doesn't matter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also they have the nsmb bubble mechanic anyway
                Do they? Do you have any footage that shows that? I haven't seen it yet.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why the fuck can't a hedgehog tuck and roll when the fox can?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fox is gifted and is actively trying to be like Sonic.
                Amy is a normal girl that has no special ability or the need or want to be like Sonic for the most part. She doesn't go on adventures like he does so the need to learn how to curl up or roll isn't important since she has a hammer to damage enemies

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read the post again, slowly

                >Amy is a normal girl
                Your own fucking OC in Forces can do what Sonic can dp, quit it with this bullshit where you're simping for this "normal girl" shit with amy yet fucking forget all of these Sonic furries are superhuman.

                The OC uses a Wisp gun with a grapple and can't roll or jump in a ball dumbass.

                Sonic's entirely design is based on rolling you stupid moron
                Naka is the retard that thought hedgehog's couldn't swim, it has nothing to do with "le logic". If it wasn't a hedgehog it was going to be a panda which also curls into a ball

                Logic was always Sonic's foundation, but they broke it further and further the more control Naka was given to the series.

                Seethe more dumbass. Amy is a normie not some magical girl

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Amy is a normie not some magical girl
                So you just never played any other game but Advance 1 then, right?
                You're worse than Mania trannies seething over Superstars not being a sprite based game, you fags aren't real fans.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but muh cards and invisibility
                You mean the things they sometimes, maybe, if they feel like it, acknowledge?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In fairness the Tarot cards have been getting more and more representation as of late, that amy comic has them, Sonic mania shorts, New frontiers update has her attack with them, IDW Comics. It's becoming a big part of her character

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >New frontiers update has her attack with them
                That shit is so retarded lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, like in the latest game, Sonic Frontiers. And like how you conveniently forgot that every other game post Advance 1 made her roll since, discrediting your autism further?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You mean the game that invented boost shit and so everyone HAD to play the same to compensate?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Heroes
                >Invented Boostshit
                ???
                She can curl up into a ball in SA2B too, chud.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The OC uses a Wisp gun with a grapple and can't roll or jump in a ball dumbass.
                So you forgot the double boosting and the fact when you jump the character still curls up into a ball at times, ok then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Amy is a normal girl
                Your own fucking OC in Forces can do what Sonic can dp, quit it with this bullshit where you're simping for this "normal girl" shit with amy yet fucking forget all of these Sonic furries are superhuman.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This
                >Hard
                You're all just bad. She's only hard because of a retarded idea she can't fucking roll when she's literally an animal irl that curls up like Sonic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Relatively speaking, you spastic retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Relatively speaking
                Meme cope. Knuckles is meant to be the "hard mode" of Sonic and even then it's only hard because of his jump height for bosses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >even then it's only hard because of his jump height for bosses
                And his harder levels.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally get good. I never once felt any different in skill level between his and Sonic's. You just can't hold right 2 win meme even more proving retards even more wrong they don't know shit about Sonic games.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love how that stage is built to at least encourage you to use his abilities

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hedgehogs can swim and don't run fast so maybe using irl logic doesn't always apply to cartoon characters. Crazy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe a character in a sonic game should actually function like a sonic character

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe a character in a sonic game automatically does function like a sonic character and you need to get a grip

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sonic's entirely design is based on rolling you stupid moron
                Naka is the retard that thought hedgehog's couldn't swim, it has nothing to do with "le logic". If it wasn't a hedgehog it was going to be a panda which also curls into a ball

                Logic was always Sonic's foundation, but they broke it further and further the more control Naka was given to the series.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is not Naka the one who devised Sonic's gameplay in the first place?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And he only was ever good at being a code monkey, not the miyamoto of SEGA that everyone thinks he was.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're playing it wrong that's why. It's like playing Pacman by running into ghosts. There's no game in the 90s you're suppose to just hold forward to win. You take your time and play the game like a sane person, it's a platformer.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          by pressing down on the dpad, you're more retarded than even real life hedgehogs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have to prove yourself right first.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Notice how no one can prove me wrong when I say fighting games are shit until you memorise every move's frame data.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2 and 3 are shit as well. They're all about running faster than you can react, then hit an enemy, lose all your rings and start over.

      They only way to enjoy Sonic games is by learning the stages inside and out. It's shit design.

      https://i.imgur.com/mfq8wmH.jpg

      Back in the 90s, Sonic ONLY got popular due to the coolness factor. SoA always tried to make fun of Nintendo and be the "cooler", more "adult" option. Sonic is shit, the games have poor design where you just keep running until you hit something, or learn the stage inside and out so that it actually becomes playable.

      Same with Mortal Kombat. First game ONLY got famous for all the blood and gore, not because it had better gameplay than Street Fighter or Fatal Fury.

      It's also very telling that neither Sonic nor Mortal Kombat ever got popular in Japan. Only in the west where people think it's more important to be seen as "cool" than to enjoy a fun game.

      https://strawpoll.com/eNg69WM68nA

      >DER I PLAYED A RACING GAME AND HIT STUFF WHEN I JUST HELD THE GAS THE WHOLE TIME, IT'S BAD GAME DESIGN TO MAKE ME HAVE TO USE THE BRAKE, AM I SUPPOSED TO MEMORIZE THE WHOLE TRACK?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should I filter all posts with strawpoll links in them? Every time, like with wojaks, if it has a link then it has the most abhorrent opinion possible.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to love it so bad but the music is so fucking bad

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mortal Kombat ever got popular in Japan.
    Because it’s banned in Japan outside the first game which became infamous there

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why was it banned?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gore is a big no no is Japan, same as genitals in porn. Resident Evil games just straight up get different versions over there that tone down the gore significantly.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care still buying Sonic Superstars.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >B-but the Japs didn't like it so I don't either!

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MK had better lore and story than Street Fighter.

    Also MK always had better single player content. There’s more to fighting games than tourney viability.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To bad the core fighting mechanics and precise controls didn't even come close to neither Street Fighter or Fatal Fury.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe, but that was never the point. The point was to make a spectacle fighter with a cool story that’s a love letter to B-Movies. They succeeded.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a movie, not a game. The core of every game is the gameplay and how the game reacts to the input of the player.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you want good lore just play SNK games, i guarantee you something like Samurai Shodown is miles ahead when it comes to that.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most Sonic games are at least decent, and a decent Sonic game is miles ahead of most series' games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      chronicles isnt even bad though, its just mediocre like most of the franchise. people shit on the bad soundtrack and act like that makes it as bad as fucking boom or free riders.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a very easy/unbalanced RPG with poor writing and poor music. All that's special about it is that it's the only official Sonic RPG - if we ever got another one, Chronicles would only ever be brought up in bad music threads.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chronicles is a terrible RPG, fuck off.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Free riders is a decent game with the mod that removes the need for motion control. Not great, but certainly better than chronicles and boom

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Note that the games that try really hard to pander to the autistic sonic DBZfags or comicfags and fail massively (06, Forces, etc) always get shit on far harder than games that are more critically broken/dogshit. Same goes the other way, if it isn't a complete trashfire but still is mediocre slop it gets shilled to high heaven that its the best game in the universe.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hit me up with a Sonic game worse than Chronicles that gets a free pass. Go ahead. Show me worse than an RPG with a broken economy, placeholder sprites, placeholder music, a combat system where all your actions are multi touch input with only complete success or failure, and a mediocre story.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hit me up with a Sonic game worse than Chronicles that gets a free pass.
            Storybook games. Literally unplayable trash but he's le shonenkinorino so it's ok. Like I said, if it isn't dogshit enough it's a masterpiece somehow even when it's still dogshit just not in a way these clowns think dogshit games can be.

            There's nothing sane about a game that's literally programmed like a Temple Run clone but you have to waggle just to fucking sidestep. It's a objectively unplayable game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >he's le shonenkinorino so it's ok
              This but unironically.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              An RPG that fails in all of the basic facets of being an RPG and has abysmal presentation is worse than mediocre platformers with annoying controls.
              Congrats, you're a moron who just wants to be contrary or has a massive boner for the comic books.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with Generations?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's Generations 3DS, it's just kinda shitty

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The last two zones are pretty damn decent to be fair, but the rest of it is pretty shit.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All OP can point to is "uhhh, you can't react in time!"
    Ok. So play the widescreen versions.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Back in the 90s, Sonic ONLY got popular due to the coolness factor
    Nah, his games were fun.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good to see Sonic still living rent free in anon's heads.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Notice how when the other players get off-screened in co-op and they teleport back to the leading player, they inherit the leader's momentum so they don't get left behind again. Superstars is gonna have the best multiplayer in the series.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Really wish there was an option to use the zoomed out camera at all times. Also wish the game looked better in general

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the best-looking Sonic game since Generations.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It looks WORSE than Gens and Mania. It looks like a slightly updated 3ds game. The backgrounds especially look like dogshit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It looks fine.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It looks fi-

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It looks like Sonic Lost World

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lost World looks better than this game. I think the game would look better if the BGs weren't so blurry and minimalistic. Just look at how Wonder looks compared to Superstars.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't look anything like Lost World. You're just mindbroken by classic aesthetics.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Character models
                Look great.
                >Backgrounds
                Okay. Same fidelity as Generations, but less visual noise.
                >Skybox
                Really bad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Same fidelity as Generations
                I wish. Generations was so pretty

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your memories are inaccurate.
                Classic Sonic sections in particular could get rough in Gens.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. See Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Sky Sanctuary, Seaside Hill, Rooftop Run and Planet Wisp

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, the visual fidelity really wasn't there. The Superstar assets are comparable and in some cases better.

                Generations was a pretty game for 2011, but you're confusing some issues with Superstars' presentation with lackluster assets.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy and not saying the classic Sonic stages in Generations looked phenomenal or anything, but it does feel a little bit disingenuous to try to make that point while posting these postage stamp sized jpg screenshots of compressed Youtube videos.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have better screen caps on hand so I'm trawling google image search, sorry. I'd use better examples if I easily could.

                All I'm trying to say is that most of the background elements in both games are of comparable mesh complexity and Superstars generally has better texture work. It comes off "lesser" because there's more negative space and the lighting is worse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                generations (2011) looks like a game from 2023

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Every frame in Sonic Generations is a work of art on its own.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Emulator
                Kys

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope you can turn off depth of field or something to make the background look better, but otherwise the game looks good. It'll probably look better in motion.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mods will probably fix the skyboxes if nothing else.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Switch version doesn't blur the background. But everything else doesn't look as good.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Switch version doesn't blur the background.
                Sweet, then that means it can probably be disabled on the PC version.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing designed with the HE would run on the Shitch you retarded cuckold.
            Actually know why SEGA games are made the way they are before seething those two poorly optimized PS3 games aren't the standard anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This looks slow as fuck, I guess because the camera is so zoomed out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That, and they're just moving at the normal running speed, which is never that fast in Sonic games. You can go faster with rolling down slopes and, presumably, the speed shoes powerup.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Definitely a smart decision I'll give them that.
      But I think Mania Plus did that so it's likely just code from that engine they just reused.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mania Plus's co-op was the same shitty co-op from Sonic 2, there wasn't a recall function as far as I know. And Iizuka said that Superstars uses all-original code with nothing reused from the Retro Engine.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mania Plus's co-op was the same shitty co-op from Sonic 2, there wasn't a recall function as far as I know.
          What I meant was whenever your partner died they would leap back onto the stage after a second or two and when they fully respawned their momentum iirc matched yours

          I might be wrong about the momentum part but I do recall characters respawning before, but it was automatic and I don't know what's different about the multiplayer mode functionality wise.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Those games were made for those dirty westerners and not for my sugoi wakanda paradise so I'll never like them" stfu

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you have to beat the game 3 times to unlock the original soundtrack and not the shitty remix retard version

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I don't know what PimpUigi's problem is.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No lies detected.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic was never a good game, neither was Mortal Kombat
    The hell is this connection?
    Though its funny because my brother was literally why I got into Sonic after he then played Mortal Kombat afterwards.

    So fuck you OP, you inadvertently proved yourself wrong.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we're still not past graphics whoring in the year 2023

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tbf, Superstars' skies look kinda bad. They're blown out and the colors are too strong.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's only gotten worse thanks to fags like digital foundry

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The game could and should look better
      >"OMFG!!!!! GRAFIXX WHOR!!!!!"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it SHOULD look better
        Yes, this is the graphics whore mentality.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Grafixx whore mentality is wanting cutting edge visuals and thinking anything less is trash. All I'm asking for is something on par or better than a 2011 game aka better backgrounds and lighting. Again, look at wonder.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Or on par with a 2012 game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, fuck graphicfags. I care about aesthetics and the aesthetics are what I want, but it should be even more stylized like in Penny's Big Breakaway.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cringe opinion, bro. Here's your (you)

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic was never go-ACK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow. Going forward on a yellow line and jumping at the appropriate times because you memorized the pattern after a hundred tries. So much fun.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You shan't be receiving any (You)s today.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic ONLY got popular due to the coolness factor
    Bullshit. In summer 1991 there was NOTHING like Sonic. Not in the arcade, nor at home. You tryhard revisionists obviously werent there, or intellectually unable to tell whats going on in the world.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic was never a good game
    I agree

    >Mortal Kombat
    ??

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This happens in S3K, the issue to you is that they are running in mid air instead of standing on the ground before the act transition starts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where's this new footage from? Also as I assumed zooming out the camera makes co-op not too bad by the looks of things.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Bridge Island clip is from IGN's most recent video on the game. I don't know about the other one.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This one

        is from an IGN preview from a week or so ago https://www.ign.com/articles/sonic-superstars-the-first-preview

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they INSIST on this dumbass walking on air bullshit? Just have a cool falling pose like that extremely rare sprite in CD that Megamix and other rom hacks loved to use.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do they INSIST on this dumbass walking on air bullshit?
        It's cute in 2D
        It looks cancerous when modern does it because he sucks

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hard disagree. Sonic 1 is just OK, but sonics 2, CD, and 3/Knuckles are great games. Sonic Adventure is also a better game than Mario 64. It's only after SA1 that Sonic main line games got shitty (most spinoffs always sucked). MK sucked until MK9, and even then is a mediocre fighter.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What role will he play in Superstars?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      literally who?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know

      >All those great character designs stuck in that shit show Balan Wonderworld.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shut it, zoomer. Sonic was great and everyone knew it. It wasn't as popular in Japan because SEGA's hardware didn't really catch on until the Saturn, no doubt in part because of the company's American roots. Even so, even in Japan he's an instantly recognizable character who moved merch.

    You are right about Mortal Kombat, though. It's a horrible game that got a lot of attention due to how edgy it was. It was culturally important at least. Not anymore, though, since the devs have decided to become morongays, dress their women up in burqas and add a gore toggle.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and add a gore toggle
      Are you serious?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic is good, but I agree with MK. Mkx was okay but everything else is either shit or a meme.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2D Sonic holds up fairly well. They're just fun little platformers.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are we excited for sonic frontiers ending?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very, especially getting play as Amy Knuckles and Tails and of course Super Sonic 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm going to be allowed to play as my favorite vidya character ever in 3D again
      >I'm going to be able to climb walls and glide around in an open world
      I'm hyped.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic was always good but it was also really flawed and inherently more complex than Mario which is so dead simple it's far easier not to fuck up.
    A major issue with Sonic has always been its length. As the vidya industry and technology grew so were expectations of content. Longer and longer games were in demand and fluffing 1-2 hours games by making them stupidly hard was no longer seen as acceptable especially for wider audiences.

    For stuff like Mario this shit wasn't hard to solve: Larger worlds and levels. But for Sonic this was kinda a massive issue whose whole gimick was speedrunning the games as fast as you can. It wasn't as easy as just "make longer levels" or "make more" since making this stuff in 3D would now cost more timer and money to boot. So a lot of the struggle and thinking came around how to extend the length of these games while not immideatly blowing their budgets.

    this is ultimately what led to so many questionable decisions from alternative game modes that played nothing like Sonic in the Adventure series to having the characters play the whole game again but as diffrent characters in Heroes.

    Then the Dark Age happened because SEGA realized they'd make tons of cash no matter how good or bad Sonic is and stopped giving a shit on giving Sonic Team any resources plus Sonic Team themselves just throwing retarded shit at the wall in hopes something works to boot.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who would you bring along with you on a car ride? Pick 4.
    Hard mode:You must choose one that you hate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sonic, Tails, Silver, Blaze

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Amy can be a "normal girl" in the story while still having the basic kit of the other characters in gameplay. That's what Cream did.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the baby easy mode play the same as everyone else but with an OP throwable chao
      Wow I wonder why they designed her like that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's inconsistent if Cream has the full kit but Amy doesn't.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS DELETE THIS DELETE THIS! AMY SHOULDN'T ROLL! NAKA WOULDN'T ALLOW IT! SHE IS A NORMAL HUMAN WOMAN THAT NEEDS NO MAN!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you seething so hard over a preference? You're sperging out over nothing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why are you seething so hard over a preference?
          I'm not the one seething that she doesn't play like one game in particular you grew up with in Superstars, gay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where am I seething dumbass? You're the one making throwing out insults like it's candy and falseflagging like a sperger.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely right about MK but Sonic has had some of the best games of it's genre

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Running at supersonic speeds
      >Normal
      >Curling up into a ball
      >Apparently magical in nature
      ???

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Me when I have poor reading comprehension.
        The video is expert gameplay using exploits to gain big bursts of speed (without needing to curl up in a ball at all. huh, how peculiar). Also she has some running ability since she chased Sonic around so much during this era so it's not too far fetched that she has some decent speed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The video is expert gameplay using exploits to gain big bursts of speed (without needing to curl up in a ball at all. huh, how peculiar).
          Doesn't matter, people like rolling because it looks cooler than naruto running. Hell even if it looked more like CD/OVA's figure 8 feet that would be better than the generic trash modern Sonic characters use.

          I just don't accept the answer Amy can't roll because "le hard mode / le normie", it's massive copium.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >she has some decent speed
          >but can't tuck her head between her legs and tip over

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoy playing Sonic Mania. I have also enjoyed playing 1, 2, CD, 3K, Advance 1 and 3 in the past.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very brave of you to admit something this controversial.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "modern" Amy is more cute IMO.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is how you spot a zoomer who doesn't know shit about what he's talking about
    The original Sonic trilogy owes part of its popularity to the marketing but the Sonic games strived because there simply wasn't something like it on Nintendo
    Outside of the sheer intrecate level design the overall smoothness and speed Sonic ran at was unparalleled even on Super Nintendo, the only comparable gane would be Super Metroid with the FX chip but even that doesn't reach the levels of speed a high level Sonic playthrough has

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how is rolling a special move if cream the child and fucking mario can do it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cream is easy mode for little girls.
      Mario's rolling doesn't have a charge mechanic or go super fast like Sonic's does.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cream is easy mode for little girls.
        If Cream is easy mode, why is Amy hard mode?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It just reeks that the devs never liked Amy, and I know for a fact Naka is one of them.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >amy shouldn't roll even doe she's a hedgehog and logically should be one of the only characters to have the ability instead of giving it to everyone for no reason

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember that one Amyfag who wrote a 4000 word essay about why Amy shouldn't have a hammer?

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really care for S1F's Advancesque moveset for Amy. It's really nothing like Advance 1 except that Amy can't roll or spin jump. Advance Amy needs two buttons to work properly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The developer of this port must be a waifufag because Amy is very OP in it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Superstars really should've picked up where Advance 1/2 left off and made use of more buttons on the controller to expand character movesets. The only reason the games are just one button games is because of Naka's autism for extremely simple control schemes. Give knuckles some basic combat, gives tails some gadgets etc...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s what the emeralds are for, emerald 7 unlocks exclusive moves

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Superstars does have more buttons for the emerald abilities. The characters even have abilities like a tail swipe for Tails, a punch for Knuckles, etc, although they're locked behind one of the emeralds for some reason. Hopefully they'll have them by default for one of Superstars's inevitable sequels.

          The emerald powers are gimmicks that probably won't stick after this game and already looks tacked on in an attempt to seem like they're innovating

          Why do I need combat in a 2D game? Why do I need combat in a fucking PLATFORMER?
          Trannie Planet 2 proves it's a bad idea to pander towards this tripe.

          Why are you acting like I only meant combat abilities? All the (good) dimps games have moved that give you more mobility to get around faster or higher.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tacked on in an attempt to seem like they're innovating
            Ganker rots people's minds into trying to stay ahead of the curve by speculating about the motives of developers rather than taking things at face value
            >they didn't add these abilities because they thought it'd increase gameplay variety... they only did it because THEY WERE PRETENDING TO BE INNOVATIVE!!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do the boots taste good at least?
              They're gimmicks that either should have been in a character's moveset to begin with or are completely ignorable that it makes them seem completely pointless

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because those options are just moves some other character should have, that's the entire point of multiple characters in classic Sonic games. You give a character something unique to them with the same core gameplay and you've got a Sonic game. It's not thay hard and shouldn't need to be complicated just to add "options".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Superstars does have more buttons for the emerald abilities. The characters even have abilities like a tail swipe for Tails, a punch for Knuckles, etc, although they're locked behind one of the emeralds for some reason. Hopefully they'll have them by default for one of Superstars's inevitable sequels.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At last, canon Super Amy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Origins did it first, even had Hyper Amy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did anyone even use the extra attacks in the Advance trilogy (excluding Amy for obvious reasons)? None of them served any purpose that you can't get from basic jumping or rolling.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can use the attacks, especially Sonic's somersault, to quickly come to a complete stop for a spin dash. Tails and Knuckles' attacks are helpful in some boss fights in Advance 1 and 2.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you know, guess there is some utility to the somersault after all.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It looks retarded and was clearly not meant to be usd that way. The same role could be done by a stomp move that's performed by pressing down while in the air

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The same role could be done by a stomp move that's performed by pressing down while in the air
                In which game and with which character, because the closest thing to that that I'm aware is Amy's down air attack in Advance 1.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but I think he's talking about something that *could* have been in the game, not something that actually is.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah, you're right. But that doesn't seem to be as efficient because you'd need to jump before hand, which seems like too many actions just to stop yourself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do I need combat in a 2D game? Why do I need combat in a fucking PLATFORMER?
        Trannie Planet 2 proves it's a bad idea to pander towards this tripe.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why FP2 specifically?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because it's the game everyone shills as "correct Sonic" and I'm tired of that shit permeating in my Sonic threads.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So FP1's combat's good then?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1 started it
                2 doubles down on it
                Both are shit but 2 is worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Try this one out, it's fantastic:

      https://info.sonicretro.org/Amy_Rose_in_Sonic_the_Hedgehog

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic was never a good game
    won't be reading the rest of your post but you are a dumb moron redditor with an inability to play children's games

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic was never good, and if it was good, it was only its 2D games

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Back in the 90s, Sonic ONLY got popular due to the coolness factor.
    You mean the WAY PAST COOLness factor.

    But I mostly agree with you. I have a love/hate relationship with Chemical Plant Zone in particular.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I have a love/hate relationship with Chemical Plant Zone in particular.
      Retard

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they hated him because he spoke the truth

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the Sonicfags have come to defend their game. Where are the MKfags?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Missed the thread because of the image.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're too busy jerking off to gore vids

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MK has no real fans. People only like it for the gore and it doesn't get any deeper than that because there are much better fighting games out there that people actually like and play/talk about. The 2 things people care about in MK is the gore and the women but not even that second part because they like making them ugly caricatures now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you wanted MK fans to show up then you should have made an image that had Sonic and MK in it. People look at the image first then the text. Dummy.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    same thing with GTA. GTA was never good. it only got popular for the novelty factor of OMG YOU CAN DO X, but the games themselves were subpar. IV actually tried to make GTA a proper decent game but the fans hated it it wasn't a SA clone.

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