Sooooo this game is basically just dd1, flaws and all, just with updated graphics and somehow simplified the game even further than DD1.

Sooooo this game is basically just dd1, flaws and all, just with updated graphics and somehow simplified the game even further than DD1. Why would anyone buy this shit instead of just getting DD1 Dark Arisen?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe they already played dark arisen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then play it again

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The unmoored world is fricking dogshit
    >What if... you can't see shit
    >Also everything is on a timer
    >And you have to do busywork to access vendors

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kill the red pillars
      >now there's no timer
      wow that was hard

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone who criticizes DD2 treat it as a checklist of features (X number of classes, X number of spells, etc) and not an actual game to be experienced? No talk of the level design, world design, quest design, etc. Acting like the entire game is just a grey box like DMC's Bloody Palace.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's derivative. A discussion about DD2 as "an actual game" would be almost indistinguishable from a discussion about DD1.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Judging games on their own merit is a skill hardly anyone has and it shows itself every day.
        How many ppl even played DD1? 200k 12 years ago? So what’s even your point? Discuss DD2 or eat shit and frick off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People are judging it on its own merit though. DD2 was meant to be a development of the DD formula--Itsuno's "true vision" according to his own words. The intention behind the game was evolution relative to the previous game, and it failed this task.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The game doesn't exist in a vacuum. Why spend 70 on DD2 right now when you can get Dark Arisen and get a similar experience for much cheaper?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A discussion about DD2 as "an actual game" would be almost indistinguishable from a discussion about DD1
        You didn't play either game then. DD1 had 10/10 combat and music in a 4/10 husk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because zoomers have no game journalists or reviewers who rate their games for them anymore. Now zoomers have to look for some numbers or statistics to seek validation or confirmation on their biases or assumptions. Many don't even form any opinion at all and look for one to be given. Zoomers only look for sales numbers, features, comparisons, etc. They are afraid to actually play the game themselves. They are afraid to actually have a different opinion than the people they look up to. Be it on Ganker, social media or real life.

      They all praise individuality but have none.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't play it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the hope and promise was a simple iteration on the previous game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is there to say? World design is dogshit, the random caves you find are all the same with no real loot inside them and populated by the same 4 enemies you've fought for over 40 hours, quests are just as shitty as DD1 and literally boil down to "kill every goblin in this area" except for the sphinx who is the only stand out part of this entire game
      This whole game is unironically worthless and rendered obsolete by fricking dark arisen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cause it's nearly identical to the first game but fixing nothing from the original and bringing less of everything except graphics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So?
        DD1 is over a decade old and there hasnt been one since, demand is for a game like DD1, go figure DD2 would be like DD1 instead of, what, another crafting survival game?
        moron.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Braindead argument.
          DD2 isn't ''like DD1'' it's a lazy copy paste job with 0 new ideas after an entire decade of nothing.
          Please, go ahead and buy the same game a second time, moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so you havent played the game, go try a charged warrior attack on top of a monsters head in DD1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pawn behavior and commands are 100% better, and inclinations are also better. Fighter vocation is also better than it was. Just started warrior, I like the new timed swings thing that rewards precise inputs for faster/more powerful attacks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomrs dont play games and tendies shitpost any game not on their platform

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do play games, but mainly just the same handful of games that their favorite streamers or youtubers play, or they just play the same collection of FPS slop ad infinitum.

        Before you autisically screech, i originally thought this was false, but after working with zoomer colleagues, they all have the exact same interests and personality, they all play the same shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because after 10 fricking years and Itsuno saying this is the game he wanted to make back then has raised expectations.

      Instead they got more or less the same game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice bait, however I'll put it simply. Imagine after smash melee
      >roster cut in half
      >everyone has one smash attack
      >throws are removed
      >the only specials are up and down
      >color skins are only for team battle
      >adventure mode is gone
      >special battle is gone
      >only 4 items because there were to many that did the same thing
      >and no new stages just some from melee
      >but the graphics are better atleast
      If you deny this being the sequels situation you're horribly delusional and obviously being obtuse. Its shit for those that played the first and only serviceable to newcomers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nintendo analogy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I played the original before dark arisen was even a thing and dd2 is at about the level of quality and variety of launch dd. I can tell you didn't play dd1 until post bitterblack isle release just from the way you've typed your post up.

          Obviously obtuse it is. Your lack of attempting any meaningful exchange doesn't lend itself in making the sequel seem appealing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So don't fricking play it you moronic b***h I don't work for capcom it's not my job to convince some cum felching neophyte to play a game they are determined to hate.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stating the obvious and poor quality of something isn't a sign of hate you belligerent asspie. Its disappointment. I am however determined to insult your inability to discuss it. I dare say it has aught of entertainment value.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Disappointment implies you ever cared about this franchise to begin with. You don't need to lie anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please, don't double down on the coy charade. It makes you look hilariously ignorant. Surely you're not this committed to playing the fool? Then again I may be overestimating your reading comprehension.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you done trying to talk like grigori yet? Are you gonna post "abandon all delusions of control" next and kick your feet and giggle?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clowns are meant to be mocked, you could've attempted meaningful discussion but you didn't. You played the fool and I indulged you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >calling anyone else a clown with capeshit reaction images

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've unironically had more fun with capeshit games from the PS3 gen than DD2.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                List some. I only ever tried that iron man game as a demo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bamham arkham asylum and city.
                spiderman web of shadows
                X-men origins: Wolverine

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fans make dream game that becomes the benchmark of everything further made in both the gameplay and media genre
                >Fans jam pack mediocrity with devotion to series
                >Fans given turd that's such an insult to the original medium that CGI artists leak the movie out of spite and manage to actuallly polish it into gold
                I really wish more games would use the healing factor concept in lore to explain regenerating health and make good looking regeneration effects. Walking away from an explosion looking like a reassembling terminator was one of the coolest experiences in Origins. With all the multiverse BS in comics I wish actually fighting the alternate universe selves to unlock their costumes was a more common trope.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Really grasping at straws. But A for effort, you were right about everything and I was completely wrong. Good job champ.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if you don't work for crapcum it's even more embarrassing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I played the original before dark arisen was even a thing and dd2 is at about the level of quality and variety of launch dd. I can tell you didn't play dd1 until post bitterblack isle release just from the way you've typed your post up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dd2 is at about the level of quality and variety of launch dd.
          thats a problem, moron.
          DD1 at launch was considered flawed and extremely unfinished.
          it also had massive performance issues.

          people wanted their dream DD game with the flaws of the first game fixed and generally more shit to do, not an equally flawed game that was already rushed a decade ago.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So what you're saying is the game is true to form following the path the original game took and only stands to improve from here good talk anon. Glad we could agree.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              kys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nothing to write home about
      what to say really most are essentially fetch quests, go here kill enemy X or go find me my spectacles
      and the design of the world is nothing special, grassy plains are worse than the first and desert sections is as bad as any desert level can be, it doesn't even have its own unique enemies, just more goblins and lizards, maybe rock golems

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you new? Everyone was shitting the level design, world design, quest design, etc at launch. defenders were seething at people comparing landscape views you could get in DD1 that just don't exist in 2.

      Hell

      The unmoored world is fricking dogshit
      >What if... you can't see shit
      >Also everything is on a timer
      >And you have to do busywork to access vendors

      is noting about all three that you mentioned

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One of the largest complaints of post dragon in original dragons dogma was how ugly it makes the world with permanent grey ass clouds. It's the same shit for unmoored world, its not a surprise at all.
        The timers are absolute bullshit though I fricking hate that. That is genuine criticism.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the last game was awful so it's ok this one is bad too.

          what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This was a part of the original game so it's expected by anyone who actually played it and isn't really a big deal for people who actually like dragons dogma
            FTFY

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That is the most weird ass cope, you just said one of the largest complaints of the original game was ugly grey sky shit and you think their best handling of it is to double down on it and make it worse? You think fans want that. Shit man I think I get why Capcom is so awful if this how the fans treat themselves.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >one of the largest complaints
                lmao from where, nobody gave a frick about it so pretending to care about it now is moronic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just quoting

                One of the largest complaints of post dragon in original dragons dogma was how ugly it makes the world with permanent grey ass clouds. It's the same shit for unmoored world, its not a surprise at all.
                The timers are absolute bullshit though I fricking hate that. That is genuine criticism.

                >One of the largest complaints of post dragon in original dragons dogma was how ugly it makes the world with permanent grey ass clouds.

                But now, no one cared?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it makes the sky red not gray so neither you or that guy have played the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                depends on what region you are in, most of it is a grey/yellow hue

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you outed yourself my pirate fren.

                >waifu
                I exclusively hire male pawns. And play a male.
                >don't even try to make a better version of the same idea
                alright mister art director pitch your concept, I'm waiting.
                [...]
                It's exhausting these morons never played the game and are determined to speak with their foot in their mouth thinking they can just coast along the shitposting parade by praying the people they're arguing with also didn't.

                >we have reached "yeah you do better"
                fricksakes man, no one is going to take this game away from you because you have awful tastes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The sky and what is going on with the brine leaving the ocean and forming a swirling apocalypse is way better than the fricking clouds in the original seen

                depends on what region you are in, most of it is a grey/yellow hue

                I don't know what the frick you wanted. it was inevitable. Anyone who plays this franchise knew we were going to end up with frickass sky if you frickass the world.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The sky and what is going on with the brine leaving the ocean and forming a swirling apocalypse is way better
                It's adjacent at best, but go play it if it's so great. Playing defense force on here just makes all the griefers/trolls/etc feel like they are over the target when you waste time here defending it like it's some bawd you are white knighting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >go play it if its so great
                I am. I have two monitors.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the game is so dull that you have to take breaks and post here?

                great defense...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was eating dinner anon. Just because I can make myself immortal with mystic spearhand doesn't mean I'm going to run around while eating. Might as well call morons morons while alt tabbed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wait, you eat in front of the PC monitor while playing your game and replying here too?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you not have a desk? My food arrived, I alt tabbed from the game for a bit, and ate while browsing the thread and watching some shit on youtube. Then I tabbed back in. Is your computer not capable of doing this?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you not have a desk?
                I have a dinning table. I don't want to be so fricked up that I need distractions 24/7 even when I'm eating at home.

                That said I get your defense force shit now. You are like /LULZ/ levels of lost.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People have been watching entertainment with their dinner since the fricking 60's who are you trying to fool. TV dinner trays and the advent of microwave dinners directly contradict your argument that this is a "recent phenomenon".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They were also painted as loser behavior for the last 40+ years and rightly so, that said, take pride in your inability to be alone with your thoughts, I ain't living with you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >painted as loser behavior
                In what universe? It's fairly normal to watch something with a meal. At least in american culture.

                >DD2 discussion boils down to anon defending his grub hub order

                I used the word arrived to specifically bait out this type of comment. I cooked chicken, carrots and broccoli in the oven.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >go play it if its so great
                I am. I have two monitors.

                Neither of these make sense together. Were you on two screens or not?
                are you a chat bot? You better be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you know what borderless fullscreen is? You still have to alt tab out of it to do stuff on another monitor. If you really want to get down to vernacular I suppose you could argue pausing the game and moving my mouse over to the other monitor isn't "technically" alt tabbing but functionally its the same thing so why beat around the bush?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a purely aesthetic choice. You are literally told "this will frick the world up beyond repair if you do this". Do you want the world to be blue skies and happy trees after? The would directly fly in the face of the game's art direction.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So don't even try to make a better version of the same idea? Just question nothing and accept the awful slop?

                I swear game lets you make a waifu and people's brains just start to rot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just question nothing and accept the awful slop?

                Now you're getting it!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >waifu
                I exclusively hire male pawns. And play a male.
                >don't even try to make a better version of the same idea
                alright mister art director pitch your concept, I'm waiting.

                The fact we have to keep spelling out all the changers make me think most of the games defenders never played the original games.

                It's exhausting these morons never played the game and are determined to speak with their foot in their mouth thinking they can just coast along the shitposting parade by praying the people they're arguing with also didn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          even without the timer it's just complete shit, the only real content are the 2 bosses which you can't refight and black chimeras. Unless I missed shit like gore cyclops variants somewhere

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It desperately needed an everfall equivalent and the ability to stay in the unmoored world as long as you like. I am sad that isn't the case. That is a genuine fumble on capcoms part and I will not excuse that in spite of how much I am enjoying the game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because the best part of dd1 was the everfall and bitterblack which are just glorified bloody palaces. give me more of that shit with DDs gameplay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's amazing how the team just missed that. Game was a cult hit for that reasons and they doubled down on everything else.Worries me that it's likely DLC planned shit to nickle and dime.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bitterblack is sick but everfall?
        frick outta here.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >didn't actually experience the everfall when it was the actual endgame
          >dark arisen babby moron who sucks off bitterblack isle which is some of the worst content ever made besides the additional enemies
          That tracks

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's literally better than what DD2 has, which is nothing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You shut your prostitute mouth, the everfall was essentially bbi before dark arisen. Lots of shit to kill, most being the new postgame enemies. Disagree and I'll open a rift between your legs so large the seneschal will be able to squeeze an armada of grigoris through it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Dragon Ur
          >Chambers with the high level monsters like the Arch Hydra, Evil eyes, Liches, Wyrn, Wyvern, Drakes
          I everfall was based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does everyone who criticizes DD2 treat it as a checklist of features (X number of classes, X number of spells, etc) and not an actual game to be experienced?
      Because its a sequel after 12 fricking years, so the less we can expect is to surpass the original one instead of having less spells, enemies and somehow WORSE story too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >level design, world design, quest design,
      Because those are unfortunately at the same dogshit level as DD1 instead of the massive upgrade they should've been.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because people who never played the game can only repeat talking points they were fed as opposed to discussing those things.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No Itsuno-san, I won't pay $70 just to shit on your game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Previous recent releases has raised consumer standards. Remember all the bellyaching about developers crying to not hold them up to Larian Studio's standard?

      Now you see why.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BG3 is the polar opposite of Dragon's Dogma games, it's polished with attention to detail at an extreme extent, but the core mechanics of the game are pretty mediocre.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Until you reach Act3.
          I know Sven denied any dlc or expansion but they should at least work cut content later on as much as they can with updates or a definitive edition.
          BG being a WotC IP doesn’t guarantee a DE like Divinity had.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And what is that?

      Running around a map with 0 enemy diversity and fights that end in 3 seconds? 0 combat challenge? Items not mattering outside of big str/big magic digits? A story that stops after 1 zone and the skips to the end? A final boss fight so bad it makes space marines one look good?

      What exactly did my $70 buy here which elden ring didnt do a thousand times better?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First day here?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe all the replies to this post saying that DD2 is "basically just the same game as DD1, we wanted more." Are you fricking blind? Did you play two hours and then stop? This game is bigger and denser than DD1 in almost every way imaginable. There's an entire second country for frick's sake. There are more quests, more enemies, the level design in the overworld is far more complicated with a shitload of verticality. I cannot fricking imagine playing this and thinking it's the same game. Basically the only smart post in this thread and everyone seething about it is showing their ass.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        see

        For every huge leap forward it takes
        >better map
        >improved exploration
        >improved class tweaks
        >mechanic tweaks
        >physics system that lets you combo on monsters
        >improved pawn AI (they still fall off cliffs but they can do cool shit like grab you mid air if you're sent flying)
        >quality of life features
        it takes like 2-3 steps back
        >less vocations and skills
        >worse movement
        >dumbed down equipment system
        >dogshit end game
        >ruined NG+
        >inferior music
        >worse characters (no one is memorable like e-girl witch or she goat)
        >even more incomprehensible story (nothing cool like fighting Seneschal)
        Itsuno is a great ideas guy and a great director and I'm glad to see his unadulterated vision finally realized after like 20 years, but he definitely needed someone to tell him, "Maybe a mechanic that will kill every npc in a hub and potentially ruin a playthrough and no new game option is a bad idea."

        Dark Arisen was better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not reading your gay post, Pablo. Frick off.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thank you for your contribution to this wonderful thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The quests aren't as good and there's literally less enemies when they had bbi enemies and ddon enemies to pull from, they could have easily doubled the amount of enemies in the game. Hell they took the sphinx from ddon and made it a one time thing.
        Basically quality > quantity but this game has neither, the world is bigger but with no reason for it to be, battahl has the same enemies as vermund, volcanic island just has the same enemies too.

        I recommend everyone to try the DDON private server because that is the real DD sequel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DD2 actually has more enemy types than the first game. And even among enemy types there is a lot of variety like there being something like 10 different goblins with their own behaviors.

          The problem is simply that the enemy placement is bad. You run into goblins, wolves and saurians constantly, but you barely see some other enemy types at all and several of them you fight once.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The problem is actually that enemies do not have enough health and the game doesn't scale properly. 10 different goblins is nice but doesn't matter when I oneshot everything at level 40

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm fine with the game not having level scaling.
              That being said, once you hit Battahl a lot of enemies, especially the larger ones take almost no damage unless you hit their weak spots.
              Armored cyclopses for example have like 99% damage reduction everywhere but their head (and this is after you break the armor).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah well, everything kind of melts on mystic spearhand and I'm functionally immortal with insane damage output by comboing the bubble with the stamina drain dark hand and the secret art vergil doppleganger combo so I'm not having much difficulty. I kill most griffins in about 45 seconds. Cyclops even faster. My pawn is trained to throw me up onto the cyclops so i can knock their armor and helmets off. The only things that really last against me are lesser dragons, and they still get the shit beat out of them rather quickly. I want tougher shit to fight.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I will admit once you hit around level 45-50, the game gets easy. There simply is no high level enemies to pose a real threat after this.
                But given this is around when you're suppose to be finishing the game, that is fine. I wouldn't have minded some more optional, super hard content though and maybe DLC will bring this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't count reskins as new enemy types, they have the same behaviour, sure there's rock saurians, poison saurians, fire saurians and shit but they're really just the same.
            In terms of actual new enemies, there's what, minotaurs (not really new, basically eliminator standin), slimes and the medusa (from ddon) which you fight once?
            There's also 2 new bosses you only fight once at the end but overall it feels the same as dd1.
            There's also no hydra, Ur dragon equivalent, wieneratrice, evil eye, less types of dragons, no metal golem and probably more I'm not remembering, it's not a lie to say dd2 has less enemies than dd1

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't count reskins as new enemies
              >But wieneratrice, metal golem and the dragon types are different enemies

              No anon. Those are all reskins.

              New enemies include
              Minotaur
              Dullahan
              Medusa
              Talos
              Slimes
              Sphinx
              The end game bosses
              I'm sure there are others I am also forgetting.

              Also stop saying Minotaur and Eliminators are the same thing. They're completely different.
              Eliminators are just big dudes in bull armor that slowly walk towards you and have super armor.
              The Minotaur is fast, reckless, bucks like a bronco and charges all over the place.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Talos can't even be considered an enemy
                Sphinx is a one time quest enemy when it should be something you can encounter in the world
                Also metal golem isnt a reskin because it actually behaves differently, same with the wieneratrice, but all the saurians and goblins are the same.
                I'm.not even getting into the expansion enemies which they could have easily reused as well.
                I don't even give a shit about them being new, there should just be more since they have so much to work with from bbi and ddon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The difference between goblins, knackers and choppers is bigger than the difference between a griffon and a wieneratrice.
                The difference between a saurian, asp, bolt scale and magma scale is different to the difference between the golem and metal golem.

                Yet you dare say these enemies are the same while the reskins in the first game don't count?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The difference between goblins, knackers and choppers
                Youre joking right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No? They're all completely different enemies. It's like saying a warrior bandit is exactly the same as a mage bandit because they're humans.
                They might look similar, but they have completely different fighting styles and behave very differently.

                Then again you're the moron who keeps saying minotaurs and eliminators are the same thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they literally all just either throw shit at you or jump at you, some of them have a shield
                that's it, they may as well be the same as bandits but weaker

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some of them hide and stalk you then wait for a vulnerability to exploit.
                Some like the ones in the desert can use fighter moves and love starting every fight with the burst strike skill to catch you off guard.

                Yes anon, these are different behaviors. The only difference between a griffin and wieneratrice is the wieneratrice can spray out gas to turn you to stone. Other than that they are the exact same enemy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the difference is big enemies last longer than 0.5 seconds, nobody actually cares about minor goblin variations, but a wieneratrice can do shit that makes you think differently than if you were fighting a griffin.
                They're also much more visually distinct than goblin but orange/green.
                Compare to the minotaur variants which literally have no difference at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >200 copy pasted goblins and genshin-like chests is good because theres more of it
        If you like gathering 220 bear asses im sure you would consider dd2 great. Me personally I rather a few interesting locations than a check list of items to find. 30 hours in and still nothing compares to a very first dungeon in dd1.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DD1 is the game with a checklist of items to find, anon. All the notice board quests were literally "find 50 skulls". Almost nothing like that in DD2, and when there is it always leads to something more interesting.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those are quests you will finish naturally playing the game no one is going to find all chests or tokens playing naturally.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because the game that was to be experienced was Dragons Dogma 2, as in, the second dragons dogma game, because they already made one before. So when the game failed to improve, expand on or even in some cases simply reproduce features, QoL, and core elements from the first game it serves no purpose "as an actual game to be experienced".

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ermm anon don't you realise games are so fricked a 12 year old game with a lick of paint is actually the best gaming experience in years?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The paint came peeling with this one. Don't worry though, it'll look good if I smear some vaseline over your eyelids.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the only game since mgs3 that I immediately went into a new playthough.sorry that casual players are not enjoying it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's derivative. A discussion about DD2 as "an actual game" would be almost indistinguishable from a discussion about DD1.

      Also people have been discussing these things. Critiquing a lack of enemy variety for example could fall under the discussion of level, world and/or quest design depending on your framing

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's clearly an improvement of DD1.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >work on the game for the past 13 years
    >all you do is literally copy the first game, update the graphics and that's it
    >remove dark magic
    >reduce variety of enemies
    >your world is now just 4 enemy types and you have to fight over and over and over again for the next 80 hours
    >fetch quests
    >dont attempt to add any new areas or change art styles anywhere
    >not even le fabled moon area
    >trying to force replayability so hard by giving pawns the virus that makes them kill npcs around them
    >trying to force replayability so hard by giving you 1 character slot with no way to delete it
    >didn't address the tediousness of walking around everywhere from the first game
    >not even a mount option where you can have your entire party mounted with you (would've been kino)
    >that'll be 70$ + MTX Tax + no restart save option + horrible performance + denuvo + anticheat + tip
    >this is btw Itsuno's "dream game"

    Lmao what a soulless piece of shit. Save yourself the time and money, and just download DD1 Dark Arisen, install HD textures and mod it to your heart's content. It's way bettern than this pathetic excuse of a "sequel".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is the hd textures mod good or is it just upscale slop

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The grass feels out of place but everything else looks good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll give it a spin after I finish a playthrough then. I wanna take in what the whole game looks like and try it on ng+

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >install HD textures and mod it to your heart's content. It's way bettern than this pathetic excuse of a "sequel".
      ngl anon, im pretty bad at modding games

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >work on the game for the past 13 years
      So the discord raiders have now changed it to 13 years?
      Game was in development for 3 years, but wait no the old game was 11 years ago so it was 11 years development... but wait 12 sounds better and if you literally assume they started production right as DA was being printed, its 12... now its 13 because why not

      Go back. You lost.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        From what I remember this was originally supposed to be a ps4 launch title which was going to be medieval destiny with that memory time travel shit from ass creed. The project clearly went nowhere so Capcom was going to cancel it but some employees argued instead to just reuse the assets they made and turn it into DD2

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a lot of fanfiction without any substance or proof. There is zero evidence dragons dogma 2 is connected in any way to deep down.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, Deep down looked and played a whole lot better 11 years ago than DD2 does in 2024.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're a moron, you're thinking of Deep Down which was a completely different project with a different director and had nothing in common with Dragon's Dogma.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Source my ass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

      Refusing to understand others perspective doesn't make you smarter but more dumb. Simply ignoring the statement proofs how little you care about this game or video games in general. Off yourself in real life.

      >more dumb
      >proofs
      Good morning sir

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok EOP

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone criticizing the games content (beyond the unmoored world timer which is actual fricking bullshit and should be changed) played Dark Arisen. Not Dragons Dogma. These are secondaries who did not touch the game until the aftercoat of paint that was dark arisen and bitterblack isle. Beyond lacking an Everfall, and the ability to stay in the unmoored world as long as you want, the game is basically just Dragons Dogma with a new coat of paint. Inevitably, it will get a Dark Arisen styled expansion, and feel more complete.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The ubershilled AAA sequel that was supposed to be the "completed vision" and costs 70 bucks should not be compared to the dlc of the original made on a shoestring budget
      Shitsuno is literally the Japanese todd Howard except he has even more midwits ready to defend him at the cost of their dignity

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the completed version
        Fanfiction or mental moronation?
        Itsuno didn't even make bitterblack isle and is candidly on the record of not liking that content.

        And it's the consumer's fault they expected more from a sequel?

        Yes, expecting anything "more" from a game release in 2024 makes you out to be a total moron. You can at best hope for something "roughly as good". That's how enshittification works.
        The "consumer" is totally wrapped up in thinking fast travel is currently purchaseable with real money when you can only by ONE(1) portcrystal as a one time purchase and the game already gives you 7, more than you'de ever need.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The average consumer blindly consumes. It's the informed one who demands more from the producer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mindbroken babble of a troonyshill that can't even read
          Lmao, even brought up the israeli microtransactions all by itself

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You brought up the consumer, and the most outspoken consoomers are too busy parroting troony sterlings b***hfit that isn't even accurate and parading around blatant falsehoods as truth. I bought the game because I wanted more Dragons Dogma. I got more Dragons Dogma. If you don't want to play Dragons Dogma, don't buy it. Or go play the original again. I'll probably be doing the same once I finish 2.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >is candidly on the record of not liking that content
          Surely anon will now supply proofs of his claim??

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was an interview from a few years ago. I cannot provide the source despite looking for it since I posted. You are not obligated to believe me, but Itsuno didn't actually make bitterblack isle. I absolutely know that's true.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Todd Howard has at least one masterpiece under his belt. Itsuno has zero.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And it's the consumer's fault they expected more from a sequel?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >These are secondaries who did not touch the game until the aftercoat of paint that was dark arisen and bitterblack isle
      This. So much this.
      Dragons Dogma 1 on release was bare bones as frick, but nobody here remembers it because nobody played it. All fake fans pretending to always have been here is fricking disgusting. Same fake fanship happened with Persona 5 release, SMT 5 release and Armored Core 6 release. Ironic how of all of these release Dragons Dogma was the only one tho tried to stay true and loyal to it's core audience from the first release.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Releasing same barebones game with updated graphics =/= good. Yes, the game stayed true to itself but that doesn't mean that it's not dogshit. All I'm saying is that when the game sells so poorly, and Capcom decides to never do another open world RPG, you won't have anything to blame except this lazy piece of shit game.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Yes, the game stayed true to itself but that doesn't mean that it's not dogshit
          Then it's not a game for you and it never was. Stop being hyped and become a fan for a franchise you know nothing about. Go frick yourself.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's sounds like you just want a hugbox.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I want to be taken seriously in conversations about a game I blatantly admitted I never liked in the first place, and my damning condemnation of the first game makes me justified to discuss the sequel
              You are delusional. The world does not conform to your singular will. There are going to be games and franchises that aren't for you. Learn that people are different, and like different things, you blithering autismo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In life you will encounter opinions, preferences, positions and stances contrary to your own. Your only options are to do battle in the public forum or retreat to a hugbox.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Learn that people are different, and like different things
                The irony is palpable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the one trying to impose my will on others. That is the clear and present difference here. I'm not the one desperately trying to convince you of anything. I said the game is dragons dogma because it is. You went on a pants shitting autistic sperg out that dragons dogma is bad and you didn't even like the first one, and are trying to magically revise history that it was never good in the first place.
                If you cannot discern the nuance between these two things, you are never going to make it, and I pity you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The world is a clash of wills anon. You trying to cleanse the world of those who would like to see DD evolve is just as much an imposition of will as any other

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The rebirth thread is 3 pages down if you want to keep typing like you're Sephiroth anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Brown hands typed this post.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am devoutly caucasian sorry you're incapable of having a laugh. I pity you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Erudition is not "doin' a mofuggin' Sephiroth" you pathetic worm.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what you're saying that the true Dragon's dogma philosophy that only the OGs get is finding enjoyment in moronic ass game design and jank? It seems to be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't believe I said that anywhere and your mental illness will find ways to put increasingly obnoxious words in my mouth if I choose to engage with you so I will just tell you to lick the sweat off my nuts and then have a nice day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao mad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Le ebin win in the anonymous board amirite fellas?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Listen up you dumb fricking moron. It is you who wants a franchise to change to your liking. I am just gatekeeping the frick out of subhumans like you. Its already rare as frick that a developer decides to not cater to a wider audience and now that the game feels more like AA than AAA you loose your shit like some fricking stupid ass child. Go frick yourself.
              >Muh microtransactions
              Yeah the publisher, not the developers. Capcom is a parasite company. The developers is not. He just created a truthful and loyal sequel to the original and you can only complain because it's not the game your favorite twitch streamer promised you. Frick you. It's exactly how I want the game to be. I want it to filter the FRICK out of you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >troony throwing a melty because of buyer's remorse with le angry gif and pretending that a hackjob with less content than the original is acceptable to actual DD fans
                Lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >less content than the original
                that's absolutely debatable because despite the unmoored world being on a timer and that being kind of shit, it is definitely more intricately crafted than post dragon which was literally just "turn modifier on all overworld enemies to gore variant, add everfall and call it a day".
                if they had made unmoored world permanent and had an everfall this game would have very, very little genuine criticism other than performance and removal of some spells and vocations.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For the moment you have chosen battle--good for you. Do not, however, assume that this battle will lead to utopia, because it never will. For this you must retreat to a hugbox, for there will always be adverseries.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Refusing to understand others perspective doesn't make you smarter but more dumb. Simply ignoring the statement proofs how little you care about this game or video games in general. Off yourself in real life.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Disagreement does not imply a lack of understanding. In fact, the opposite is usually the case, as disagreement is precisely the expression of understanding of what is at stake.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Argumentum ad hominem.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Argumentum ad repetitio

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you respond to this comment in any way your mother will die horribly in her sleep tonight.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                May God rest her soul.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bunch of hacks get a contract to port a fricking ps3 game to modern technology
                >Aren't given creative liberties in game design outside of removing content and adding additional charges
                >The Developer is not a parasite
                The fricking world of Hollywood managed to get past trash "sequals" like this by the late 2000s, I would of hoped gaming would of managed a little faster.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Yes, the game stayed true to itself but that doesn't mean that it's not dogshit.
          if the original is dogshit in your eyes then this game was never made with you in mind anyway so why the frick are you invested and why the frick do you care? So you can participate in Ganker's latest sperg out and feel like the opposite side of the culture warrior coin? Do you feel like you're morally satiated by being on your perceived "right side of consumerism"? You're just an annoying b***h who by your own admission didn't even like the first game. So frick off homosexual.
          Go play or b***h about something you actually care about, if that's actually possible for you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes, the game stayed true to itself but that doesn't mean that it's not dogshit
            Then it's not a game for you and it never was. Stop being hyped and become a fan for a franchise you know nothing about. Go frick yourself.

            >create dragons dogma 1
            >people complain that the game is garbage
            >make Dark Arisen
            >people happy now
            >game sells well now
            >create dragons dogma 2
            >remove everything that made people less butthurt
            >omg no way people dont like our game guys!!!
            Let me guess, they're gonna make an expansion or some shit a couple of years later called Arisen of the Dark and fix the issues people have about the barebones gameplay. The game had so much potential, but I guess consoomers must consoom. Enjoy your slop while I continue playing modded Dark Arisen, and hey I hope your pawns don't kill all the npcs and lock you out of all the interesting content.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Imagine being moronic enough to let dragonblight ever progress far enough to cause that to happen to you. Lmao brine urself my man.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Let me guess, they're gonna make an expansion or some shit a couple of years later called Arisen of the Dark and fix the issues people have about the barebones gameplay.
              Yes? That's obviously the case. Don't tell you you bought the game and actually thought "this is the definitive experience". lol
              Next time show some foresight.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Expansion comes out, its reskinned monsters and nothing new. One meme class that uses skills from DD1. It just feels low effort, have great monsters from DD1 and DDO, dont put them in the game.

              I feel whole thing is just mashed together abomination that has 30% of the planned mainplot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Let me guess, they're gonna make an expansion or some shit a couple of years later called Arisen of the Dark and fix the issues people have about the barebones gameplay.
              Capcom has been doing that for at least 20+ years when will people learn you never buy their games on launch and always just go for a "definitive edition"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe a hot take on Ganker, but I think BBI is overrated as frick. I don't understand the love for it. It's literally a generic ~4 hour long dungeon with a terrible Diablo esque loot hamster wheel as the main motivator to play though it over and over again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed. Main Game DD is comfy fantasy adventure kino, better than BBI in every aspect. I have a feeling that the people who latch on to BBI so hard are secondary soulstroons and that's why they're butthurt so much over DD2 lacking "difficulty" or "muh enemy variety" because they're used to playing soulslop, where the entire game is 1 huge corridor with occasional forks consisting of 100 "different" enemies that fight you the same way and you interact with by rolling through their damage hitbox and hitting their leg, but have a slightly different skin and a different colored fire ball.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >These are secondaries who did not touch the game until the aftercoat of paint that was dark arisen and bitterblack isle
      This. So much this.
      Dragons Dogma 1 on release was bare bones as frick, but nobody here remembers it because nobody played it. All fake fans pretending to always have been here is fricking disgusting. Same fake fanship happened with Persona 5 release, SMT 5 release and Armored Core 6 release. Ironic how of all of these release Dragons Dogma was the only one tho tried to stay true and loyal to it's core audience from the first release.

      I played the original before dark arisen was even a thing and dd2 is at about the level of quality and variety of launch dd. I can tell you didn't play dd1 until post bitterblack isle release just from the way you've typed your post up.

      I've only played DD:DA, what did DA add to Gransys?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen is the re-release of the original game containing massive new content. The game was revealed at the 2012 Tokyo Game Show. This release contains the full original Dragon's Dogma game, with all original Downloadable Content (bonus quests and cosmetic items pre-loaded; armor and weapons available to buy from merchants), plus new additions such as new enemies, quests, locations, character customization, weapons and armors.

        More skills/equipment/augments:
        58 new level 3 skills: each character class receives a new tier of skills, giving players new devastating abilities and skills to master.
        Over 100 pieces of new equipment.
        All new high level weapons and armor sets for players venturing into the depths of Bitterblack Isle.
        14 new character/pawn augments.
        New equipment enhancement system (Rarifying).
        Additional ring slot

        Bitterblack Isle also added 30 new enemies/variants.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow I really didn't know Dark Arisen added that much. I thought it was just BBI.
          So my guess is that the prime objective of 2 was to "make 1 again in a new modern engine" and then build upon that.
          I really hope they add more content.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It added Skill modifying rings. I think it added one or two sets for every vocation color plus Two reskins of the same BBI set and 2 new weapons for every category.
            That’s only found in BBI anyway, through a RNG Purifying Fixed Table.
            If you count previous dlc armor, you get a few mid tier gear for free and many gimmick weapons sold at Black Cat.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dont fall for marketing anon...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >marketing is now posting changelogs
              Mental illness.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s all BBI. For the most part DA added more port crystals. I believe OG DD had only like 2 per game, thank frick for DA updating the shit out of that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not all BBI. They changed a lot of things. If you don't believe me read the changelog yourself.
            https://news.capcomusa.com/gregaman/blog/2013/04/18/dragons-dogma-dark-arisen-change-log-within
            This isn't even an exhaustive list, as stated by the changelog itself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fact we have to keep spelling out all the changers make me think most of the games defenders never played the original games.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow I really didn't know Dark Arisen added that much. I thought it was just BBI.
          So my guess is that the prime objective of 2 was to "make 1 again in a new modern engine" and then build upon that.
          I really hope they add more content.

          All that is BBI, except for some QoL changes the base campaign got untouched

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those QoL changes were huge though. Magick Archer was probably the worst class in the base game. Not only were it's weapons really underpowered compared to anything else, but it simply had low damage on it's skills. These combined with the damage calculations often made them unable to really hurt enemies.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              imb4 people spawn saying MA was the best vocations because of the ricochet arrow spam in BBI which depends partially on one RNG skill ring.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People are trying to say the everfall was amazing end game content. I remember people saying it was shit even at release.

                These people are unhinged.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most people skipped Everfall entirely after doing a few rooms and getting consumables and wakestones from chests and went to grab much better gear quickly in BBI.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you want to compare DD2 with Dark Arisen (and you should, 12 years), Dark Arisen has BBI which is infinitely better than unmoored world

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BBI was a dull dungeon crawler with frick all exploration

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, best part of the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most people skipped Everfall entirely after doing a few rooms and getting consumables and wakestones from chests and went to grab much better gear quickly in BBI.

                Everfall Black folk should be ignored. The real issue is that the game doesn't have a BBI equivalent. It needs one so I can fight enemies that I haven't overleveled.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le first game was barebones… So it’s fine if the second is too so we can get an EXPANSION
      >on a 100+ dollar game
      >supposedly the vision of the creator which ended up REMOVING content instead of essentially expanding on the first
      Bait or not, there are people who genuinely believe this is fine and it makes me sad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >These are secondaries who did not touch the game until the aftercoat of paint that was dark arisen and bitterblack isle
      This. So much this.
      Dragons Dogma 1 on release was bare bones as frick, but nobody here remembers it because nobody played it. All fake fans pretending to always have been here is fricking disgusting. Same fake fanship happened with Persona 5 release, SMT 5 release and Armored Core 6 release. Ironic how of all of these release Dragons Dogma was the only one tho tried to stay true and loyal to it's core audience from the first release.

      Wheres the Everfall and Ur Dragon then?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The post you are quoting literally calls out the lack of an everfall you fricking moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Going off Capcoms's recent track record it's likely that the Ur-Dragon and Everfall and such will be added to the game post-release, the same way MHW didn't launch with G-rank. In fact I think you can look at how they handle Monster Hunter as the likely blueprint for how they'll handle Dragons Dogma 2, encouraging people to keep playing with updates/expansions/events/etc, they much prefer the pseudo-games-as-service approach to, say, FROMsoft who release a game and then go "ok that's it, maybe you'll get an expansion or some DLC in a year or two".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf are you talking about? I played the og game on 360 and played the dark arisen version years later on steam and all it added was that boring fricking island dlc. it didnt change anything significant in the main game other than giving the infinite teleport stone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Calls others secondaries
      >Is a secondary himself
      Many such cases

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >source: my festering axe wound

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Everything in your post: your ruined butthole caocom fricked

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't pay for the game. But you're spending your valuable living moments replying to me on a basket weaving forum, so you are paying me in the currency of seconds.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, he's right. You just had a tantrum and everyone's calling you out for it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No source
          >No argument
          >No brain

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why the frick would I retread arguments I already made hours ago for a shitpost that is multiple hours late to the thread. Read the fricking thread. Then rope.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why would you defend debunked arguments everyone already made days ago for a thread that is multiple days late to the topic. Read the fricking room. Then rope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >These are secondaries who did not touch the game until the aftercoat of paint that was dark arisen and bitterblack isle
      This. So much this.
      Dragons Dogma 1 on release was bare bones as frick, but nobody here remembers it because nobody played it. All fake fans pretending to always have been here is fricking disgusting. Same fake fanship happened with Persona 5 release, SMT 5 release and Armored Core 6 release. Ironic how of all of these release Dragons Dogma was the only one tho tried to stay true and loyal to it's core audience from the first release.

      Full price sequel stripped down everything and went back to base DD1, expanded on nothing, and is left in a state of being an inferior experience until it gets its own full price re-release like the first time? I agree that's what's happening but the fact that you seem happy about it makes you seem like homosexuals.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you are talking to a literal paid shill

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >source: my festering axe wound

      >no rebuttal to actual arguments
      >replies to the shitpost
      You sure showed them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I replied to nearly halfl of those posts literally hours ago you fricking moron. The only reason I even tabbed back into this thread is because I'm about to go to bed and saw I had yet more replies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't you say you were going to bed? What are all these?

          Why the frick would I retread arguments I already made hours ago for a shitpost that is multiple hours late to the thread. Read the fricking thread. Then rope.

          >when you dont have a leg to stand on
          You are jumping into a debate 5 hours after the post was made, long after I'd responded to people, long after most discussion in this thread, and are trying to pop your head in like you have some revolutionary new angle to play that nobody else has posted already because you have an inflated sense of self importance. Read the thread.

          The difference is I actually sat down and put 35+ hours into the game before coming to these threads to talk about it. Something most of you homosexuals haven't done, nor will ever do.

          What's most pathetic is claiming you have something better to do and then sticking around
          or is this one of those 'last word' scenarios?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >didn't you say you were going to bed
            yeah but I'm autistic and struggle to disengage from arguments. Why else would I be on Ganker still at 8am.
            It's not that I have something better to do, it's that I think its ridiculous to have to repeat myself when you can literally just scroll up.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >but I'm autistic
              yeah we figured that out already

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone who posts on this board is honorarily autistic anon it came with your captcha.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >New coat of paint
      More like stripped the old paint before splashing mud and other debris on top of it.
      I can't believe all Capcom shills can say to defend the game is "they'll eventually sell us an expansion that'll fix everything"
      Have some standards

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's very little difference in the main game between vanilla and DA. I also highly doubt you were there at vanilla. You keep shitting on it, but if you were being truthful, then you'd find 2 as it is now to be just as, if not more, outrageous and inexcusable since you've already been dealt that bad hand before. Instead you're defending it, so that tells me you're either pretending or you have sunken cost in 2 game by this point.

      >source: my festering axe wound

      >inb4 muh source muh source muh source
      When you don't have a leg to stand on, it's best to fold your shit hand

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >when you dont have a leg to stand on
        You are jumping into a debate 5 hours after the post was made, long after I'd responded to people, long after most discussion in this thread, and are trying to pop your head in like you have some revolutionary new angle to play that nobody else has posted already because you have an inflated sense of self importance. Read the thread.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These threads are just restating the same things and having the same arguments. Don't act like you're some trailblazer when you're beating the same dead horse everyone else is.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The difference is I actually sat down and put 35+ hours into the game before coming to these threads to talk about it. Something most of you homosexuals haven't done, nor will ever do.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Still going the secondary route
              >He still can't provide a source
              This is why you're bullied so easily

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sooooooooource
                A source for what?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read the thread

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Maybe if I disprove what people are saying, people won't call me out
          >Nah, I'll just call them homosexuals and go for low hanging fruit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon just because I like dragons dogma does not mean I signed up to be a thread arisen doomed to repeat the cycle of having to debate a point over and over again every time some moron decides hes done sleeping and chimes into a conversation that happened 7 hours prior. I have made my points in the thread. I'm not obligated to babysit you and respond to your post that is saying the same stupid shit that was said to me 6 hours ago that I already responded to. Read. The. Thread. homosexual.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He didn't read the thread
              >Didn't take his own advice
              Go to sleep, moron, the bogeymen will be gone when you wake up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was here hours ago too. Still getting shit on, huh?
          See you next thread where you'll get fricked more.
          Oh wait, uh, rope yourself. There, I've established dominance, making me right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >source: my festering axe wound

      Why the frick would I retread arguments I already made hours ago for a shitpost that is multiple hours late to the thread. Read the fricking thread. Then rope.

      "kys" is such a basic white flag

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually its how you show you care

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more dragons dogma, where do i put my money?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DDO was peak DD. KINOshita was always the mastermind behind the series https://youtu.be/DSv293QJd7s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything I love about DD was from this homie
      Frick itsuno

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone buy this shit instead of just getting DD1 Dark Arisen?
    Because we already have DDDA. Oh you mean the horde of normalgays who just discovered it? DDDA is probably too "dated" for them to give a chance.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1 medusa
    >1 Sphinx
    >Dullahan only spawns rarely at night
    >Even the shitty Skeleton lords are rare as frick
    did they sell the beta build?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    counterpoint:

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IWNBYG

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 60 hours in and I've not been petrified or blinded a single time. Are they even in the game? I know Medusa can petrify but she can't be the ONLY enemy in the entire game that does, right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry gaijin but we had to remove the wieneratrice to make the game worse

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why did they even code this "feature"?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't tell if the pawns are slowly getting better with every kill, or do they only get the knowledge once they've obtained the full badge

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They definitely get better, first time I fought a golem they didn't want to hit the sigils until I basically showed them and killed it solo and 2nd time they immediately jumped and started smashing it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The original had it. It was easier to rank it though.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The lack of reaction from NPCs is killing the game for me. It feels like those cheap ass ____ simulator games where you can hit an npc and they would show the hit/stunned animation but ultimately, it doesn't really do anything.

    >throw npcs at each other, they just stand up and go about their business
    >get told I cant go into a building, still go in
    >releasing people from jail while guards are patrolling

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You lost, OP.
    Its time to go back.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was the point of the titlescreen reveal/change? There's like 3 hours of gameplay left at that point, at best.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    already played it, i'll play this because the vocations are better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always hear they a worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only sorcerer but DD1 optimal sorcerer gameplay was shooting small pellets at monsters so its not a bad change

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't believe kojima ripped off this strand-type gameplay planning routes and dellvering fetch quests.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it even worth pirating DD1 and Dark Arisen when it seems most of the game relies a lot on online pawn shit? No, I'm not giving capcom money.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, pawn sharing is one of the best features.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how does it fricking matter to have other peoples pawns? what the frick does it do and how doe sit affect gameplay? seems worthless to me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on why you are playing. For me it didn't change anything because it just has bot pawns fill their ranks and your Pawn still gets "hired" and in irony you got better gifts for it than irl users usually. Also there are mods that just let you make the pawn teams you want which was much more fun to me.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >killed Gregor in town 2 so that he wouldn't escort me
    >switched to thief because strider was kinda boring
    >turned out to be a bad idea because can't attack harpies
    >eventually figure out to spam the sash strike against goblins
    >rank up and get the helm splitter
    >now I can hit harpies but it's difficult
    >just start walking towards the capital, no way I'll be forced back to the bow or to hiring pawns
    >for some reason starting camp are all alive again and lion man no longer wants to impale me on his sword
    >but I ain't buying three swords for him
    >the griffin is out of the way of the cave so go through that
    >oh frick saurians
    >OH SHIT thief destroyed them
    >continue through cave easy.
    >journey is somewhat lonely but escaping tutorial mountain is freeing
    >come across the cyclops at the river barrier
    >for some reason the game sets a save point in the middle of the fight
    >now my max health is draining as I die repeatedly
    >figure out that planting c4 on its head is a good idea but can't figure out how to follow through on tipping him over
    >get lucky once when I jump back on him immediately
    >shred his face and win easy
    >continue along the mountain
    >holy frick there's way too many harpies in this game
    >start sliding down cliffs to dodge the encounters
    >eventually make it to main city
    >guard at the gate tells me I need papers
    >but what if I were to just ignore him
    >instantly arrested with no chance to fight
    >appear in front of black knight
    >well sheeeit I guess that's the easy way in not the hard way
    >he calls me king and says he wants to put me on the throne, explains the politics
    >I get no chance to say that I really don't give a shit about being king
    >immediately enter castle and sit on throne because who's going to stop me?
    >absolutely Noone there's no consequences.
    >finally sleep at an inn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the question is whether I'm having a blast the answer is no not really

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >play games like a utter moron
      >complains about it later

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm assuming most people already played Dark Arisen, and they probably just want to experience the new one at least once rather than replay the old one.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely believe huge chunks of this game have been hacked off to be sold later as DLC.
    The fact that there are only two biomes and the bizarre vocation design is very suspicious to me

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Makes me laugh how Ganker shat on TOTK for being BOTW but updated, yet they immediately start sucking the shit out of Capcom’s anus for their precious Dragon’s Dogma.
    How are them new enemies, Dogmagays? What about those new weapons and classes and mechanics?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop being disingenuous, you know the game has been divisive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just think it’s funny. This entire board strokes their wieners to the idea of shitting on Nintendo, but when their holy game has a sequel that’s pretty much the same thing with a few changes, suddenly the defenders pour out of their caves.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This entire board strokes their wieners to the idea of shitting on Nintendo
          This board sucks nintendos wiener so hard they had to make a dedicated pokemon board over a decade ago you zygote. The pendulum swings between playstation and nintendo based on which one is easier to make mad. That has always and will always be the case.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Tendie letting Ganker live in his head rent free because not everyone liked Breath of the Asset Reuse

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anon in literal tears because his sequel is more ass than the sloppa clapbait sequel that Nintendo crapped out for their audience
        At least Nintendo makes sure their shit game runs on their shit consoles at a shit 25FPS, Capcom’s been taking money and delivering an abysmally optimized game that doesn’t even run.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spot on.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked totk and i like dd2. I also paid for neither. Cope.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DD2 isn't cracked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that doesn't change the fact I didn't pay for it.

          what are those orc looking things then

          hobgoblins but they really took some armor designs from orcs for the bhattal ones.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they seem huge for hobs, I'll take a closer look next time I see them

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I honestly thought they were orcs too but I checked the enemy kill log and they're just goblins still.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will say it's jarring how much they want to excuse this game. Is it because muh PC?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep bringing this up in the future and eternal butthurt is guaranteed.
      /v/‘s Dogma.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Feel free to use it, because it’s true. I’m sure some enterprising anon could get at least one hundred (You)s by showing how much totk improved vs DD2

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't even look that good.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, the story is 100% the same? No changes at all?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a remaster of DD1 with downgrades

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's called a demake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Story itself is the same but worse. The mystery of why the cycle happens is reveled but that just makes it less interesting.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly like DD2 in every way apart from the enemy variety, there’s just no excuse for 95% of the enemies you fight to be goblins and orcs, Capcom literally made Monster Hunter ffs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the ironic thing is that this game would have been massively improved by being a monster hunter spinoff, allowing them to recycle assets out the ass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and orcs
      Orcs aren't in the game, so its just goblins

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there are orcs in the game

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No there aren't, orcs are exclusive to Dragons Dogma online

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what are those orc looking things then

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hobgoblins, they are based on the John Howe and Alan Lee design of the orcs from Lord of the Rings

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also in DD1 they already had that look

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >flaws and all
    such as?
    for me, dd1 flaw is its size. it was too smol.
    dd2 addresses this.
    but dd2 runs like liquid shit on my hardware so i'm not going to play it for some time.
    here's to hoping crapcom will actually fix it and not just leave it to modders like they did with MH:W.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DD2 is only big in the sense that the map is bigger. Enemy variety is worse or the same as base DD1. The bigger map then makes this feel absolutely fricking terrible. They also started rushing the frick out of the game at one point, because by the time you get to the desert you have seen 85% of all mobs in the game already.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DD2 is only big in the sense that the map is bigger
        this was the issue of dd1 exactly.
        >Enemy variety is worse or the same as base DD1
        now, i haven't counted and made a list of enemies for either game but dd:da had its t enemies in the post game and especially in bbi. not the in the base game map.
        this will not affect my enjoyment in dd2.
        it running like liquid shit on my hardware will affect my enjoyment.
        i'm disappointed in crapcom and my trust in devs is ruined.
        >total war abandoned the physics way for spreadsheet buffs and debuffs
        >MHW left for modders to fix
        >ck3 is dumbed down to reach wider audience
        >bannerlord is dumbed down to reach wider audience
        >dd2 runs like shite
        why even build a PC and play games anymore?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >MHW left for modders to fix
          lmao wtf are you on

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/3473?tab=description

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny when people that played Dragon's Dogma 1 pretend that the vast majority of encounters in the game wasn't bandits, goblin, harpies and lizard, just like DD 2

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And then they thought maybe in a new game, in a much larger map, maybe, just maybe, each region or biome would have their own sort of basic b***h mob.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1 is short as frick. 2 wants to be a big open world game but doesn't have the content to justify it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That just further cements the complaints about DD2 being nothing more than do-over for DD1, which is kinda pathetic and a waste of budget money that could've gone towards a new IP. I do hope Capcom realizes they put far too much trust on a man that intially had plans of moving on.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DD2 discussion boils down to anon defending his grub hub order

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im doing the sphinx quest where it wants a parent, which apparently means capcom created sphinx parent, how do I find one? Im not seem to be able to search one from the rift?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DD2 is actually WORSE than DD1 (pre-DA). Those saying DD2 captures the spirit of DD1 are fake oldgays.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually can't fricking believe there isn't an everfall, at the very least. There's absolutely zero fricking reason in the game right now to even dragonforge equipment

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People are cattle and buy everything

    Even if its overpriced unpolished trash that promotes trannies like what you just posted

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I figured out a way to get rid of the filter, bottom is a bit oversaturated though ignore that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        reshade,

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mostly color lab saturation to 1.4(it's not just raw saturation, it balances the colors) and then unsharp. unsharp is usually hideous but for this game it's like the cure for the filtering. it makes the game a bit flat though which is what the others are for, still tweaking though.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's meant to be bad like DD1
    A stroke of genius by the Capcom marketing team. Let's observe how it plays out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn't like the first game
      >this somehow makes me qualified to decide whether its a worthy sequel
      Why can't you just admit the series isn't for you and move on. Why do you insist upon being obnoxious.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes yes, Mr. Marketer, I am observing closely. Please, go ahead and work your genius, I wish to learn your ways

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would anyone take someone who hated the first installment of a series seriously when they call the sequel shit too. Has it ever crossed your atrophied mind that maybe you just don't like dragons dogma?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, I am observing. Please, Mr. Marketer, go ahead now and perform your demonstration.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was a charming little game, but we can't live in the past. It's important to learn from mistakes and improve

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this thing I never liked should CHANGE to appeal to ME instead of continuing to be itself and please the people who actually enjoyed it
          You are everything I hate given corporeal form.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I enjoyed it back in the day, but we can't live in the past.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and become more mainstream with ubisoft towers, compass, fast travel, crafting and a photo mode?

          Go play assassins creed, you will have a blast

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, that wasn't what I implied at all. There can be improvement without regression to the mean.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ubislop comparison

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's basically more Dragon's Dogma, which is kind of what I wanted anyway, and I've been having fun.
    That said, it does sting that they seem to have leant in on a bunch of stuff from the first game instead of taking it in some new directions. It does also break the argument that some things in the first game were the way they were due to a lack of budget and development time. I think it's too easy to point at a development doc or concepts and go "this version of the game that doesn't exist would have been better", but I think it's telling that given what I assume is more budget and freedom from Capcom, Itsuno/the other devs chose instead to make something that's more or less Dragon's Dogma 1 but with some stuff missing and less stuff added.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think Dark Arisen is basically completely saved by... Dark Arisen. It makes the whole experience worth it in my opinion. 2 lacks that so as soon as I beat the game and enter NG+ I'm gonna encounter a "there's nothing left to fight" feel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that makes sense. I only played the first game in Dark Arisen form like a couple of years after it came out, so maybe the original base game had a similarly mixed reaction? I'll admit I wasn't paying attention before I played DA.
        But still, you would have hoped that the developers for the original and expansion would have used that as a baseline for expectations for a new game.
        Like, I'm still enjoying the game and probably will continue to, but it's a conscious effort to decouple my previous expectations for a sequel to Dragon's Dogma from what we've got. And I completely understand that some people can't or aren't willing to do that and who will judge more harshly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s a concept game which becam a cult follower object.
          Then people for some reason hyped 2 out of their fricking minds all over the internet and when it turned out to be a minor upgrade from 1 everyone lost their shit.
          And people are much more prone to shit on it with the performance issues and mtx. One front feeds another.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I understand that impulse. I didn't really think it would ever get a sequel so the announcement was exciting, and I was looking forward to it, but I think it's important to keep in mind that these things are products at the end of the day so subject to the same impulses as any other commercial work.
            Maybe I'm just demoralised being older, but I've found as the stuff comes out that I've been wanting for a really long time the excitement goes down the closer they get to release.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, expecting they expand what they had from DD:DA and DDO is not hyping shit up. This is no MGSV case in which people were crying because they couldnt put a bear in battle gear and have them salute them. Classes being missing or butchered already puts a big dent on the enjoyment of many.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          OG Dragon's Dogma is over a decade old.
          It had more excuses to make outdated design choices.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so maybe the original base game had a similarly mixed reaction?
          When it came out people completely ignored it. The character creator and the open world were its selling point and people liked the first 30 minutes but the gameplay and the lack of story turned 99% of the customers off. The original release was a financial and critical flop until the DLC happened.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The release version of DD1 was hilariously bad. The world just awkwardly goes to a diarrhea sky hellscape and nothing more happens.
        The base endgame of everfall literally has a whopping 3 different rooms. And you're just expected to grind that soulless nonsense for 0.01% drops to ... continue farming the everfall slightly easier.
        Even skyrim's incredibly lazy radiant quests were more fun

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I heard this thing is bad is this true?
    >this person said this thing is bad so it must be true
    your opinion is entirely informed by the experiences of others, rather than your own
    your frame of reference is weak and warped
    you are not observing the world as it truly is
    and this is how all internet discourse goes by the way

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only the internet, it's all discourse. I often wonder why this is generally the case in our world. This can't be a modern thing, people have always been like this since the record of time, be it religion or any other dogma (no pun intended). People always have been seeking for validation, even Plato spoke about this in his fire cave concept. People basically believe what is easy to understand and dismiss everything after they wrongly understood their reality. It even becomes a sunken cost fallacy where admitting that you have been wrong would be more painful than changing your views to begin with. It's downwards spiral of the human mass intellect and I genuinely wonder if society and civilization as a whole is ever capable in mentally growing as a species.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone buy this shit instead of just getting DD1 Dark Arisen?
    Because aside from music, DD2 is better in every regard
    >Combat is expanded from the get go, even with the reduction of 6 to 4 skills your PC still has a greater array of moves - consequently the action has more depth and the chery on top is that it feels more beefy and chaotic (part because of the better animations and sound fx, part because of the more "intelligent" enemy AI)
    >Enemy variety while mostly the same (I suspect the reason is that they had to recreate all assets, they couldn't import from MTFramework), all enemies have expanded behaviours and overall fight better - plus encounters are better set up also in large part due to better level design
    >Pawn AI is far more effiecient and pawn commands are more reliable
    >Exploration and map design absolutely bfto that of DD1 - the new map is full of nooks and crannies, much easier to get lost exploring and there's more considerations when traversing the map

    The biggest sidegrade is difficulty (not that DD1 was significantly harder)
    The challenge now is not so much the individual fights like in DD1 (with the exception of bosses) but rather the accumulated "fatigue" of the journey - there's a real focus on the long-term consequences of bad planning, wasteful resource management and inneficient fighting
    This is a cool chance of direction, but the game would be vastly improved if the individual encounters hit harder
    Fortunately this is not a problem of enemy design, but rather simple mathematical values - I would say doubling the enemy HP, increasing enemy damage by x1.5 and decreasing defenses plus critical attack damage by 25% or 30%, should be enough

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DD2 is better in every regard
      >Combat is expanded
      This is such a fricking shit take, reading further will give me brain damage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No offense but this really sounds like you haven't reached endgame. Dark Arisen is a much better game as of now. I say as of now because crapcom will charge us for the expansion that fixes 2.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dark Arisen is a much better game as of now
        Aside from BBI (and better performance kek), what else does DDDA has which does better than DD2?
        Really the only thing I can think of is Mercedes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >what else does DDDA has which does better than DD2?
          pretty much everything, name one quest comparable to dd1 sieging a fricking castle and going after a goblin king with a bunch of soldiers by your side.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy mother of cope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >4 skills your PC still has a greater array of moves - consequently the action has more depth and the chery on top is that it feels more beefy and chaotic
      So you play as a Pokemon now.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll wait for Kinoshita to save the game, again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was the true genius behind it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KINOshita; don't mess up his name.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The marketing for this game was so misleading
    >there are gonna be a lot of unannounced monsters
    >there are gonna be a lot of secret bosses like sphynx
    >the focus on characters and story intrigue which actually amounted to nothing and many of those characters have like 2 small quests
    it's so disappointing. They may fix the enemy variety with an expansion, but the story and characters will remain fricked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And the endgame with the battle royal mode

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at people playing the game, I genuinely don't see any significant difference or improvement since the first game.
    I guess that's good for people who simply wanted more of the same, like FIFA or Madden.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DD2 lacks a good dungeon crawl like BBI but going out into the world and exploring, adventuring,and fighting shit feels sooo much fricking more interesting and fun than the open world of DD1 that it's not even a contest

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not once you outlevel everything. Then it's the same deal. Still needs an endgame.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Still needs an endgame.
        I agree but I haven't gotten to the end yet, 50 hours and and I'm in batahl exploring shit
        I'm sure I'll be disappointed about the lack of endgame when I get there but the ride so far has been really enjoyable

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree with your sentiment except I'm still undecided on the vocations. And knowing NG+ doesn't scale enemies just like 1 and there not being an endgame dungeon means I'm not gonna get to fight decently powerful enemies with the vocations I haven't played yet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Problem is, afterwards theres zero content to do. They should have added some shitty randomly generated dungeon endgame grind shit. As it is, doing ng+ is pretty boring since monsters dont scale up to your level. Its a shame for a game with cool combat like this. Realistically 50 hours should be enough to finish the game with a good chunk of exploration done

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you only name your pawn ? Spent a really long time in creation for my MC and just noticed there's no name entry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh lol nvm. Didn't want to finalize incase it locked me out.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the first game was terrible at launch, so the second game being terrible is okay
    Is this some sort of beaten wife syndrome?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn’t say it’s ok, I’d say it was expected. Didn’t preorder and was waiting to be proved wrong on release. Turns out I wasn’t so I’ll wait for a Dark Arisen 2.
      Also Warfarer sucks ass and is a wasted vocation slot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of the things I heard about DD2 is that it thrives off giving you anti-quality of life features. Which I can respect but also feel like I'm too old to invest in games that hate me that much anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dont try to understand space cosmo madness of Ganker, mr. /vr/ad guy..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a defense mechanism to respond to the fact that the dream game you've been waiting for over a literal fricking decade turned out to be the worst possible sequel it could've been and that the developer had no intention of fleshing out the original
      People cannot view this game objectively because the near mythical status a hypothetical sequel of DD gained over the years clouded their judgement

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >turned out to be the worst possible sequel it could've been
        hyperbole like this undermines your point of people's judgement getting clouded

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A literal reskin of DD1 with less content is a nightmare scenario and the absolute worst thing the sequel could've been, yes

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dragons smegma was always a shit franchise this is why the game only got 1 installment in 13 years, and now it will never have a third installment thanks to the greedy publishers, lmao.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >game has made money hand over fist and literally outsold resident evil 4 remake
      >its a flop somehow
      Delusional?

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys, new thread format dropped in channel #2, stop using game logo for op, people are noticing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >crapcom drops another shit game
      >people talk about it
      >has to be a discord raid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you must be really fricking blind not ro notice that 90% of these threads have a logo op and a (you) baiting shitpost. Actual threads usually have gameplay screenshots/webms as op. Its really fricking obvious that they arent even trying anymore

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shituno didn't try
          >shitposters aren't trying
          Poetry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >spam logo op
        >first post usually a one line about : bad performance, mtx,
        You need a new shitposting guide

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The few legitimately good moments the game has only makes it hurt more how it turned out. I just cleared the waterfall cave (the one with the chimera and the lich homie at the end) and it was a great experience. Honestly it was. Then you have to go out and rejoin the slog and all the other bad shit comes rushing back.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing as this is the shitposting thread I'd just like to say you gays are blinded by nostalgia hard. The everfall and dlc area were both awful in dd1 yet somehow you're acting like it was even remotely enjoyable. Which homosexual streamer opinion are you parroting this time?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BBI in itself was enjoyable. But the way the loot worked in a hamster threadmill fixed rng table was ass.
      By the time you had enough RC and killed Daimon II consistently (even if you had to use Blast Arrows+Periapts), you didn’t need any skill rings or gear from lv3 stuff. At best you’d use them to kill Death.
      It was a pointless gameplay loop.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And the worst thing is, people somehow love this mindless shit and it’ll probably be what devs will develop any DD2 endgame dlc, if it ever happens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Completely wrong? The everfall was great even if it could have used a bit more variety. The part I disliked about the endgame was that the shitty sky and grim tone made it unpleasant to be in. BBI meanwhile was excellent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >damage sponge enemies
        >need to spam buff items to deal damage which simultaneously trivializes all content
        >rc and rng chest/boss farm for gear
        >the same room over and over again
        nah

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I hate this. I always think I’m undergeared or leveled “wrong” but in all reality enemies are just suddenly spongey.
          Seeing minmaxxed character not faring all that much better than my character in 1 made me realize that.
          Somehow 2 made it worse.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            2 feels better to me because enemies scale by zone and the gimmicks/class skills are way more impactful. for example archer can auto target enemies but doesnt deal much damage, but if you switch to aim mode suddenly your damage goes up in addition to the chance to land headshots. In addition you have no real dodge skill but your kicks and airborne attacks actually deal insane damage so you benefit a lot from going in and out instead of just sitting back. the bosses themselves like griffons, trolls and chimeras are fairly tanky but using status effects and hitting weakspots allows you to take them down easily. Like it sounds obvious but what I mean is it's not just a numbers game, the tactics you use to kill the bosses are much more important which gives every class and pawn meaning rather than just using the class with the biggest numbers and using pawns as meatshields.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BBI was Everfall but good and DD2 learned NOTHING from it
      The argument isn't that DD is much better but that DD2 isn't that better than the original and DA

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DD2 is a decent game if they fix the performance, not worth $70 at all though, I wouldn't pay more than $30 for it

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1988 Dragon Quest 3, Final Fantasy 2
    >2000 Baldur's Gate 2, Majora's Mask
    >2012 Dragon's Dogma 1
    >2024 Dragon's Dogma 2
    Is it too much to expect more from 12 years in advancements?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The relation of time x improvememt isn’t forever in a linear fashion.
      It eventually reaches a point of diminishing returns you either need a new truly disruptive technology breakthrough or a new technique/art style.
      Games haven’t got much better since the ps3-4 era compared to the leaps we had in a shorter time span in the past. PS5 can’t even reach the consistent 60fps without sacrificing graphics severely.
      I’m sticking to consoles as example because PCs vary a lot on builds.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The relation of time x improvememt isn’t forever in a linear fashion
        Sure, I'm not expecing full immersion virtual rpgs, but minor tweaks and bigger map is just too little.
        Event TotK, which if often criticized as a DLC for BotW, came with a new array of complex subsystems that changed gameplay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      90s and 00s were a different industry, run by different people.
      Current game industry is basically Hollywood, they don't give a shit about creating an innovative games. If you want those you are left with indie games.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly my biggest complaint is that they kept that awful fricking pawn system.
    Instead of managing a party of 4 members, you only have control over your own character and 1 pawn, and then you're at the mercy of whatever shit other players made, which mean your party can be complete shit because every options are absolutely awful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have complete control over what pawns you take I can't believe you're b***hing about the single most unique feature of the game. Get syphilis and die.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah anon, I sure love changing pawns every 30 minutes because Shitcom had a hard-on for a gacha system

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gacha system
          what the frick are you talking about moron?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A well built pawn matters more than a level range.
          Thing is, most people are shit doing this.
          The best you could do is keep sorcerer/mage to you and your pawn and then hire easier vocations as pawns, like Archer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't believe you're b***hing about the single most unique feature of the game
        Something being unique doesn't meant it's not shit.
        I'd rather have actual control over the gears and skills of my party than rely on some stupid shit like this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You do have control you fricking moron. You have a search system to find the exact pawns you're looking for with the exact skills you want.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >missing the point
            Having to look through a list of player made pawns instead of having control of a party member isn't an improvement, moron

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes it is. It allows for more depth and communal growth than controlling 2 useless npcs. it allows you to borrow your friends pawns. it encourages community. It's half the fricking point of the game and if you don't like it the game simply is not for you. You are b***hing about the most important feature of the game, the feature the entire game is built around. Have you ever stopped to consider "wow maybe I just don't like this game" instead of demanding everything conform to your shitty ideas of what an rpg should be? There are a million rpgs with customizable parties. Go play those.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've not had a single moment in 2 where my party wasn't up to the task. Either they made the enemy/pawn interaction much simpler or smarter (can't tell which).

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For every huge leap forward it takes
    >better map
    >improved exploration
    >improved class tweaks
    >mechanic tweaks
    >physics system that lets you combo on monsters
    >improved pawn AI (they still fall off cliffs but they can do cool shit like grab you mid air if you're sent flying)
    >quality of life features
    it takes like 2-3 steps back
    >less vocations and skills
    >worse movement
    >dumbed down equipment system
    >dogshit end game
    >ruined NG+
    >inferior music
    >worse characters (no one is memorable like e-girl witch or she goat)
    >even more incomprehensible story (nothing cool like fighting Seneschal)
    Itsuno is a great ideas guy and a great director and I'm glad to see his unadulterated vision finally realized after like 20 years, but he definitely needed someone to tell him, "Maybe a mechanic that will kill every NPC in a hub and potentially ruin a playthrough and no new game option is a bad idea."

    Dark Arisen was better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly correct, but the NPCs that the plague kills aren't permanent, they wake up after a while.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so if pawnaids kills all of vernworth, the npcs that give quests come back after a few days or is it only shop vendors? I had it happen to me in the cat capital and said frick this and just dropped all my side quests and just wakestoned phaesus and b-lined the story, but the vendors all came back

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Generic NPCs and merchants get replaced. Important NPCs stay dead.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah like I said, game ruining. if you don't have enough wakestones to rev whoever you had quests with you're basically locked out of any side quests you might have run into

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dark Arisen wasn’t better. DD2 made me realize the entire series was mediocre all along.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean less vocations? Didnt they add everything from DDO in top of the existing?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no lol.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          about that...

          They actually made the one vocation from DDO (spirit lancer) worse in the form of mystic spearhead

          No fricking way. The classes were already finished. What did they do all this time? Remember when they talked about how they wanted to do things differently and since they are all oldschool D&D homosexuals they know what fans want? Was cutting classes part of that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what happened is that DD1 and DDO were running in a different engine than this game, and the engines must be so different that porting stuff over is a massive time investment. RE engine was a mistake.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd rather take MHW graphics tier than RE engine graphics tier

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but the class design was finished. They just needed to add the concept.
              When people laughed about the number of vocations i thought they were shitposting. I expected 20 vocations. 15 minimum. Glad i repaired my car instead.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        about that...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They actually made the one vocation from DDO (spirit lancer) worse in the form of mystic spearhead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm glad to see his unadulterated vision finally realized after like 20 years
      can we stop pretending this game isn't massively unfinished and they just rushed it out the door for money? The deeper into the game you go the more obvious it becomes. It starts with shit like Battahl having mob encounters every 5 steps to make up for the fact that Battahl caves are pathetically small compared to the Velrun ones, continues with the mainquest there being like 2 hours long, and then by the time you get to the true ending they couldn't even be bothered to make a fricking hole in the ground.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am still so pissed about the true ending. Holy frick did it ruin the rest of the game for me.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is the true ending? I'm so blackpilled on this game I don't even want to finish it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your pawn turns into a black cum dragon, lifts you up onto a giant kaiju dragon while the credits play in the foreground, then you hold forward for 5 minutes until you automatically stab the dragon in the heart with the godsbane. Game instantly ends after that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That doesn't sound so bad. What's the problem?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not that anon but none of it makes any sense and isn't nearly as cool as fighting the seneschal john dogma and choosing manually to reset the world through your own actions

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DD1 ending is shit. Your pawn literally takes over your life and cucks you with whoever you chose as your lover.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I waited over 10 fricking years for a sequel and I get a half assed ending with a shitty cinematic boss fight. They should of just copy pasted the everfall from DDDA and I would of felt infinitely better.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I waited over 10 fricking years
                >They should of just copy pasted the everfall from DDDA

                Everfall was base DD anon...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That makes it even fricking worse.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You worst part about it is that you didn't play DD1, you fricking double Black person.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              WTF? Why?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's shitloads of stuff to do in Battahl. I'm assuming you didn't find it because you're not very good at the game?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's not really a whole lot to do in Bakbattahl.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >brokkr's quests
            >the queen's assassin (which doesn't end after you prevent the assassination, btw)
            >the vendor who requests the two tomes, which has different outcomes if you forge them
            >sculptor quest
            >coral snakes
            >doctor who asks you to poison yourself
            >the forbidden magick research lab
            >the dragonforged
            That's all the stuff off the top of my head that either starts in or takes you to Bakbattahl, and I still haven't found everything. It's also not taking into account all the shit there is to do elsewhere, like Agamen Volcanic Island. Seems like plenty to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Less vocations and skills

      Why do you fricks keep repeating this? The first game had 9 vocations, and Assassin was just a meme class and not even a real vocation.
      The second game has 10, but Warfarer is just like Assassin.

      In what world is 9 more than 10? (Or 8 more than 9)

      Most of the vocations also have the same or more skills. And more of them are viable now.

      The equipment system is also superior. It lost like 2 equipment slots, but the second game has 5 different types of upgrades available and each one effects equipment in different ways.

      The end game is also better, it's just the lack of explanation on the time limit that ruins it, and the sudden ending.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trickster is not a vocation either

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, a complete passive vocation that makes you 100% a hostage to pawn behavior is complete bullshit. You’re never lacking in tanking, you’re lacking in damage on vulnerable parts and pawns not always do this very well.
          At least Mage has some damage and status healing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still mad they removed grapnel, necromancy, blearing, exequy, miasma and torpor instead of giving it to this non vocation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is, it's just not very fun to play if you ask me. This is no different than mage in the first game, which may as well have been a pawn exclusive vocation because no one actually played it.

          So I guess the first game had 7 vocations and the second has 8 by your logic.

          what endgame does the unbound world have after you've cleared the unique bosses? black chimeras?

          What end game does the first game have after you've cleared out the few everfall rooms? Black chimeras?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the everfall rooms respawn forever you fricking Black person
            meanwhile 2 forces you into NG+ and you can't even refight the unique bosses

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh boy. I sure do love going into these same 3 rooms and killing a bunch of goblins and wolves.
              What amazing fricking end game content!!!

              You obviously didn't get to it because you never played the game. But you can just run up and down the rivers/coasts in the unmoored world and find a bunch of respawning boss like enemies to fight. Literally no different from the everfall.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but doesn't a time limit ruin it? They gonna stop spawning once you can't fight them anymore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Time stops flowing naturally in the unmoored world. The "time limit" is based around how much you rest. You essentially get a very limited number of rests (and full heals), which can be limiting if you're a shitter and lose a lot of maximum health.

                You can also kill the bosses and extend the time limit.

                Most people skipped Everfall entirely after doing a few rooms and getting consumables and wakestones from chests and went to grab much better gear quickly in BBI.

                There was no BBI in the base game. The everfall was literally the same 3 rooms, you'd run in to get wakestones, and then fight the last boss. None of these rooms added anything new or unique to the game except the Ur Dragon fight, which was just tedious as frick.
                For most people it took less than an hour after beating the dragon to be finished with the game.
                This was not good end game and was obviously done because of rushed development.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The "time limit" is based around how much you rest. You essentially get a very limited number of rests (and full heals)
                I have a couple questions if you don't mind:
                Is unmoored world better than everfall in your opinion?
                What the frick is the point of the eternal wakestone? Can I use it to infinitely revive in unmoored world?
                Are there bosses/enemy types in it that aren't in the main part of the game?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd say it is, the problem is it's poorly explained how it works.

                In the unmoored world, you cannot camp anymore. If you die, you can also only reload from the last time you rested or from the first day. (Or use a wakestone)
                The unmoored world has 5 locations marked by red beams of light. If you don't hurry and clear these out, then the area surrounding it becomes inaccessible after a few rests.
                If you visit these locations you get a boss to fight and defeating it gives you more time until the world ends.
                Once all 5 of the locations are gone whether you beat them or time ran out, a 6th red beam appears and activating this ends the game.

                During the Unmoored world the world map also changes. The Melve area becomes inaccessible and all of the coastlines expand (and all rivers/lakes dry up). These areas have a few new locations and are where most of the new, tougher enemies spawn.
                A few notable locations also change like the Misty Marshes loses all of it's water and fog and becomes easier to explore as a result.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is there anything I should do to stay in unmoored world as long as possible? Because I want to fight all the tougher enemies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't rest, kill the red beams.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                all of those bosses can also be found on the normal worldmap you fricking Black person, and theres no time limit on that map.
                I'm so sorry you want to brainwash yourself into liking the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. There are many enemies that only appear in the Unmoored world.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            frick you Itsuno, V sucks and Trickster sucks, stop trying things

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what endgame does the unbound world have after you've cleared the unique bosses? black chimeras?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The second game has 10
        No, Warfarer and Trickster don't count
        >b-but
        no
        >but Warfarer is just like Assassin.
        No it isn't, Assassin had unique skills and has 6 skills slots

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lets be honest here.
          Mage wasn't a real class in the first game. It was pawn exclusive.
          Archer may as well not have existed either, it was strider with 1 new skill.
          And Assassin was just able to use 4 weapons poorly. It got half the skills of the other classes but in exchange got one new skill for each weapon type that was entirely useless.
          And Warrior was half a vocation at best.

          Can't believe the first game had 5.5 vocations. Damn.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wtf are you talking about assassin was insane

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sword and bow assassin was my favorite in dd1, gouge, blitz strike, full moon slash and then plegic arrow, fivefold flurry, and lyncaen sight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the endgame is better... if it wasn't shit!
        Wow, you're such a genius!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fricking over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really is a shame, the physics/ragdoll shows a lot of work and passion, maybe too much and less time for "content"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >quality of life features
      and yet you cant change equipment from stash interesting

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this shit pissed me off like fricking crazy, being forced to manually take every equipment piece out of my inventory one at a time to be able to equip it instead of just equipping it in the actual inventory

        it's like I'm playing Monster Hunter PS2 or something

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot
      >high levels of jank
      >very low enemy variety
      >moronic enemy placements and spawns
      Itsuno is not a good game director, but idea guy is debatable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      really a shame

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just gonna say it.

    Dragon's Dogma 2 is vastly superior to Dragon's Dogma 1. But it is a bit inferior to Dark Arisen.
    If Dragon's Dogma 2 gets an expansion of the same level of Dark Arisen then it will also be vastly superior.

    Dragon's Dogma was a 6/10 game.
    Dragon's Dogma 2 is a 8/10 game.
    Dark Arisen was a 9/10 game.

    DLC for the second game could easily make it a 9.5/10 game if not higher.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Less vocations and skills

      Why do you fricks keep repeating this? The first game had 9 vocations, and Assassin was just a meme class and not even a real vocation.
      The second game has 10, but Warfarer is just like Assassin.

      In what world is 9 more than 10? (Or 8 more than 9)

      Most of the vocations also have the same or more skills. And more of them are viable now.

      The equipment system is also superior. It lost like 2 equipment slots, but the second game has 5 different types of upgrades available and each one effects equipment in different ways.

      The end game is also better, it's just the lack of explanation on the time limit that ruins it, and the sudden ending.

      I feel like the vocation changes weren't exactly an improvement. In fact right now I'm leaning towards the vocations being inferior to 1 except maybe Warrior. The whole 3 core colors, 3 advanced colors, 3 hybrid colors was kino and each vocation felt distinct. 2 vocation system literally feels unfinished.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DD1 warrior feels better to play since it's not bogged down by the most ridiculous animation locks of all time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is. That’s why you’re forced to bunnyhop all the time if you want to warrior in BBI.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          use tackle and git gud, also the running charge move is the best move in the game and also doubles as a means of travel

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because it's new. npcs thinks new=better

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dark arisen 2 will save it

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm in the end game red world state and overall I found this game fine but worse than the 1st game. If the 1st game was a 10/10 then this is a 7/10.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was honestly hoping Warfarer would, AT THE LEAST, be like ONE of old vocations from DD1.
    It isn't. It's 3 abilities in total and the ability to swap between weapons instead of having to go into your inventory.
    What a fricking joke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As soon as I saw Warfarer I knew 1 had the better vocations. Warfarer was supposed to be the "its okay they limited the vocations guys because Warfarer is supposed to be your customizable hybrid!" except it's extremely gimped and dogshit.
      WHAT WENT WRONG

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still just want Dragon’s dogma in MH setting

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm trans btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shut the frick up, I spent 50 hours since release and I want to vent about my frustrations

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait I made that fake screenshot a week ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even their shitposts could match to the horror that is this game's real state

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ending of this game feels very half assed compared to the 1st game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember many people saying 1 had a half assed ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It did? After beating the dragon, you'd run from Cassardis to Gran Soren, jump in the everfall, clear out a few rooms to get wakestones, then fight the last boss. Which was barely even a boss fight anyway and was easier than most normal enemies by that point.
      It took an hour or so to do for most people.

      And to make it even worse, only the area between Cassardis and Gran Soren really changed post game. It had a few new enemies like the Gore Chimera on the beach and the undead spawning but the rest of the world was untouched and no new enemies would spawn anywhere else. So it wasn't even worth exploring.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The one exception was some unique and slightly stronger wyrm variants which didn’t respawn and some which did, other than the one found near the goblin fort.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly don't know how to feel about DD2. The combat is just as good as the first and I still love the pawn system But everything else feels like a let down. It feels like they ddint' put much effort into the story/roleplaying half of the game which was my major gripe with the first game (why the frick are there stealth missions when there is clearly no mechanics to facilitate it?). I'm just at the start of the second continent and there hasn't been a single interesting NPC or side quest yet.

    I liked how they reworked the classes but there's no excuse for each one to not have like double the skills.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think i kinda get now MonHun fans when they b***hed about World ruining the series.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Bitterblack Isle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dd ost, soul...
      Literally name 1 memorable track from dd2

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fricking can't, it's what ruined Grigori's fight for me, they replaced this pure kino https://youtu.be/iz1gqx0uRbQ with generic piece of shit "le epic" music

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing.
        There's no wind pushing me.
        No Road to Gran Soren.
        No Witchwood.
        No fricking Coils of Light with TWO PHASES.
        No Who Hands Down.

        The only shit I hear is Imminent Triumph.
        There's nothing in terms of music.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kind of insane how music can contribute to a game's soul, maybe that's why everything feels so fake because nobody can make kino vidya music anymore

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >forces you into ng+ eventually
    >ng+ doesnt scale just like 1
    >even though you just came out of the endgame gauntlet and are likely balling with gear
    why

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im pretty sure ng+ didnt scale at all in first game. You maybe mean hard mode?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i just said it doesnt scale just like in 1

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am pretty sure NG+ changes nothing about enemies in DDDA.
      You could finish on Normal and change to Hard on NG+ instead of suffering through bats until Gran Soren in a fresh save.
      But NG+ itself affected enemies in no way whatsoever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am pretty sure you can't read

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can but the lack of a comma can create confusion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        read homies read!

        i just said it doesnt scale just like in 1

        to be fair does anyone actually KNOW if ng+ scales in dd2 or not? theres so much misinformation about the game its hard to tell whats the truth

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if multiple people misread your post maybe you need to work on your writing style

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my only gripe with the game is it having Black folk everywhere. I hate seeing that one Black person woman knight near the castle quarter entrance so much its unreal. I am do e buying new video games (after shadow of erdtree course lol) they are simply not made for me anymore. may this gay society be swallowed up by the earth and the seas.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they feel so rare? I fought one at the waterfall cave and another at some ruins outside the elf place. Are they more common in the desert area or something?
    Cyclops, Ogres, and Minotaurs show up plenty Griffins fly overhead often enough, and I've stumbled onto drakes a handful of times. Chimeras were a pretty staple roaming monster from DD1 and now they feel uncommon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fight 1
      >barely survive
      >loot and get the allhealing potion
      >die a few seconds later to ogre
      >reload is not actual reload
      >body is gone
      >loot is gone from my inventory
      I was so fricking mad I almost uninstalled the game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have an issue with the amount of enemies in DD2, but the balance of them are pretty bad. Nights in DD1 were crawling with skelletons, but I barely see them in 2 and I've not seen a single skeleton bishop after 40+ hours. I'd have thought they weren't even in this game if I hadn't seen them in trailers.

      DD2 feels unfinished in a different way to 1. I feel like it was much closer to completion when Capcom told them to wrap things up, but they had much less time for the actual wrapping. Even the title screen of the game feels more like a placeholder.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DD2 feels like mechanics are a bit more polished but we sacrificed some variety/pacing for it. An example is instead of the noticeboard shit making you collect a bunch of items, the seeker tokens have their own little system. Timed quests are communicated to you, oxcarts as a form of travel, pawns in general being much more helpful with exploration/quests etc. Dragonforging isn't RNG farming dragons but it's treated as an extra upgrade tier. Those things are nice.
        I'm still very much enjoying the game and combat is still great, but it feels like content is being held back from me when they give me one fight with a boss monster and then I don't see it again for the longest time. Granted this could change when I move to the next area.
        Also while the main narrative is a bit more focused than DD1's "barely anything interesting happens until the last third of the game," the side characters in the first game are at least memorable. Mercedes, israelitebreasts, Mason, the salvation leader, even fricking Fournival.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To me DD1's story feels like Jojo part 4 and DD2's feels like Jojo part 1. DD1 felt like really disjointed in the first game, but had a lot of memorable moments and characters. DD2 is much more cohesive, but doesn't have anything that stands out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"barely anything interesting happens until the last third of the game,"
          name 1 interesting thing in dd2 main story.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well that's my point, you follow along DD2 and each step more or less connects to the last, but there's not much to stand out. Like this anon

            To me DD1's story feels like Jojo part 4 and DD2's feels like Jojo part 1. DD1 felt like really disjointed in the first game, but had a lot of memorable moments and characters. DD2 is much more cohesive, but doesn't have anything that stands out.

            said, DD1 is disjointed but more memorable. The individual missions in the wyrm hunt were fun, but they really weren't building up to anything together. DD2 has the queen plotting and the false arisen on the throne mostly being in focus for the main mission list you get from Brant. The fake arisen idea sounds cool but where I am in the game hasn't really pulled the trigger on it.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This video has
    more enemies than dd2
    more interesting locations than dd2
    more soul than dd2
    more dragons than dd2
    and it's only ~4:40mins long. How can you frick up this badly?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally and unironically no soul left in this industry anymore, everyone hyper focuses on all the wrong things instead of the little details that all add to something's charm, no matter how flawed your game is you want to make it memorable above all else, I know I'm going to have fond memories of DD1 over DD2 because of all those little charming details. This has kind of been a wake up call for me on Itsuno and gaming now. MH Wilds is probably gonna be missing all these same things and I just want 3 Ultimate back.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know whether to blame gamers or the companies. I honestly wish video games never became mainstream

        Everyone criticizing the games content (beyond the unmoored world timer which is actual fricking bullshit and should be changed) played Dark Arisen. Not Dragons Dogma. These are secondaries who did not touch the game until the aftercoat of paint that was dark arisen and bitterblack isle. Beyond lacking an Everfall, and the ability to stay in the unmoored world as long as you want, the game is basically just Dragons Dogma with a new coat of paint. Inevitably, it will get a Dark Arisen styled expansion, and feel more complete.

        >Dark Arisen is not Dragon's Dogma
        >3/4 of the game is vanilla
        Shills are really moving the goalposts this hard

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do I get the game to stop crashing

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >vocation invented by supernig
    >all the skills are horribly misspelled

    heh

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Steam workshop could fix alot of issues but crapcom wouldn't let that happen

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it was just DD1 it would at least be fun to play.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I already have and played ddda and wanted to replay ddda but differently.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it has black folks

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Falling for nu-Capcom for like the 10th time in a row
    >Falling for the most blatant and constant use of shills in the history of the medium and specifically this website

    Enjoy your soulless slop. You have no one but yourselves to blame.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all I wanted was DD1 with an online feature where other people could take control of your pawns. such an obvious feature.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      try dragons dogma online on private server
      https://discord.com/invite/9DfTm4Eb3H

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm only about ten hours in but I am immensely enjoying it.
    >pawns are better all around and commands are worth being issued
    >exploration of the open world is fantastic
    >the loss system is actually substantive and necessitates eventual camping
    >early sluggish feel makes the character feel weighty and reliant on the pawns as a team which is good
    >I'm even playing a fricken mage and enjoying the casting
    I chose not to ride the ox-cart to the capital with those guardsmen. The game did not hold my hand as to how to get there. Loved it.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not positive the unmoored world is timed if you do the superbosses. Once I cleared all four pillars of light I explored for a while and rested at an inn a bunch of times and never got any indication that the game was about to end.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, it isn't, the game literally tells you this, not sure how people are so dumb now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You NEED to clear the pillas first tho

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wanted to get this for PS5

    Have they announced any performance patches for that console yet? I heard the performance is shit at the moment

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      performance is bad across the board
      just buy the game and play it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Performance is somehow worse on PS5 despite sony gays claiming that the world revolves around them. I would imagine that you guys get priority on performance fixes. PC performance is playable if you have a really decent CPU.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to frick the sphinx

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DD2 endgame is much better. The story is much more fleshed out. It also kinda implies what happened to Gransys truth be told. Without a seneschel, the world falls to chaos. Without an arisen to guide the people to a new born world free of the dogma. Perhaps your pawn, in your stead, is able to save gransys from the same fate as Vermund and Bataahl.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >save gransys
      >the seafloor shrine is gran soren
      what did anon mean by this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except it's not? It has a totally different layout and it's explained in game the ruins are just where the founder of Vernmund set up camp. It's probably actually the ruins of the original Vernworth.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like that pawns have quests and you can incentivize people to take yours with whatever you want to offer.

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    World is too big with nothing to do. It's elden ring vs dark souls all over again. Who the frick cares it's a huge open world when all locations are copy pasted caves. I rather have a few very interesting locations that dd1 had.

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get the people ITT talking about how the story is worse than DD1. Do you remember literally anything about DD1? The story was guys giving you errands to run for 20 hours until suddenly it's time to fight Grigori. There was hardly any sense of pace or escalation, Salvation was kinda there but not enough to feel like a threat. DD2 recontextualizes the "errands" as political subterfuge, and along the way you uncover a plot orchestrated by prominent figures in both countries to summon lesser dragons in an attempt to break the cycle, meanwhile you meet the original founder of the kingdom who gives you the godsbane, etc. There's an actual story with stakes all the way through. Your favorite meme character not being there doesn't make it worse.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The errands in DD1 were more fun, but the errands in DD2 actually feel connected to the main story. That's the difference for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so same, now "contextualized", shit minus fun meme characters?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i remember everything about DD1. That homie Mason shows up to say 2 lines of dialog like 3 times and fricks off to the ether and he still manages to make an instant and memorable impression.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I completely missed out on the masquerade segment because my pawn decided to have aids and we just didn't go in and I was teleported back to the tavern, they then later decided to kill everyone in the cat city after I took a nap in my house, sasuga itsuno-sama

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the queen is made out to be some evil b***h plotting everything
      >she literally never shows up in the story and then you fricking help her as if she's a good guy in the end
      from there nothing happens until you reach the end of the game, the whole point of the early story was to expose their bullshit but it never goes anywhere, they get away with everything and they're basically treated like friends despite being portrayed as evil, the story seemed like it was going to be cool but they literally didn't finish it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The queen's plot is exposed. The idea is that, by the time you get the "normal" ending, her political standing has been destabilized enough that you're able to take the throne yourself. The connections between her, Phaesus, and Sven are all unraveled over the course of the story. They did finish it, but you weren't paying attention, and that's the game's fault somehow.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah ok, this all happens without you seeing it, it's not explained at all, nothing even happens to her, she's still just chilling in the castle, and then you help her evacuate, this makes no sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DD1 has more memorable characters than anyone in DD2.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The story was guys giving you errands to run for 20 hours until suddenly it's time to fight Grigori.
      Are you implying its better in dd2?
      >first quest go to those 3 locations and kill monsters
      >2nd quest go to a castle and find an item
      >3rd quest go there again and find another item
      >4th quest go to a castle again but this time dressed up and find a secret door
      Only one that was slightly better was the one that sent you to thief village and even then its literally go there and talk to a person there then come back.

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just beat the game. Credits are rolling. Can someone explain the ending. Why do we not fight Seneschal like the 1st game? Also was Pathfinder the Seneschal or was it a different thing? Was the ending basically stopping the cycle repeating forever? So what you did in the 1st game failed to end the cycle but this worked?

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Sphinx was the only memorable quest so far. Even that was moronic.
    Everything else was kinda shit and forgettable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >100% know I did the right thing for the sphinx puzzle
      >Sphinx peers into my soul as tense music grows
      Y-yeah b***h just give me my portcrystals okay? I wasn't worried at all

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >go find your first seeker token from 30 hours ago
      >also there a time limit lmao because of course there is

      memorable, yes
      enjoyable, debatable

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when is the free version coming out?

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why was there no Everfall or God fight?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cut content/rushed due to the CEO wanting to pay himself a nice big bonus for financial year or some shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because no one liked the everfall. It was 3 copy pasted rooms with a few enemies in you'd go into to get wakestones. Most people rushed through the post game in Dragon's Dogma because it was just a rushed attempt at finishing the game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They could of at least added the fight vs the last Arisen + mainpawn combo to beat the game at the end. Would of been so fitting for DD2

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        right fine but why no God Fight to become ruler of the world like the 1st game? Isnt that the whole point of being arisen? you replace the old god.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because you ignored the plot?

          In the first game, the seneschal creates the dragon to find an arisen to replace him since he's tired of his job.

          In the second game the seneschal creates the dragon for entertainment. He is not looking to be replaced. Only when you refuse to be entertainment for a god does the world get fricked up, and it is then implied that rather than repeating the cycle like in the first game, you break it. You do not become god because you were never selected to become god, you instead kill the god and make sure there is never another god to replace it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, this is the problem with DD2. People didn't like everfall/postgame because it was half assed in the first game? just remove it entirely. People thought MK great cannon trivializes the game? remove MK entirely. People thought ranger was generally inferior to strider or assassin? Remove ranger entirely and split strider into two. Warrior got criticised for not having as many skills as other classes? Completely remove secondary skill slots and secondary weapons from the game. People thought Gicel and Maelstrom were really strong? remove gicel and make maelstrom much weaker and harder to cast.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DD2 has the unmoored world. Which is adds a bunch of new locations and quests to the world, as well as a series of boss battles.
          This is much better designed than the everfall. It's just poorly explained to the player and too easy to trigger the ending (and once you do you cannot reload before triggering it).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            unmoored world with doomsday timer nonsense is not better designed than an endgame dungeon you can do at your leisure. Don't try to pretend that the everfall being 3 repeated rooms bc the game was rushed means that unmoored world is better than what the everfall could've been if it was given the same care as BBI

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon please. The everfall was utter trash. No one liked it at release. It was literally just the same few rooms with a few enemies you'd already seen before. You ran in, opened some chests for wakestones and that was it. It was maybe an hours worth of extra playtime tops.

              The unmoored world literally adds entire new landmass to the world map, with new enemies, boss fights, locations and quests.
              The only downside to it is the poorly explained timer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you have 0 reading comprehension you moron, I literally said the everfall was 3 repeated rooms. Go back and reread what I said. Are you ESL? Third world SEAmonkey pinoy? Should I translate what I'm saying into tagalog for you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The unmoored world is better than the everfall. It's that simple.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I need a definitive explanation of the time mechanic before I can agree with this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The unmoored world starts with 5 locations in red.
                When you rest time passes. If enough time passes one of those areas gets destroyed and becomes in accessibly.
                You can go to these areas, summon a boss and beat it. This stops the area from being destroyed.

                Time does not pass normally in the unmoored world. It only passes when you rest.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So if I go speedrun all 5 light beams, and leave the 6th that spawns at the shrine that initates the ending, I can just run around forever? Do shops disappear? Can I sleep at my own leisure and just kill the harder enemies freely? Is there a hard time limit?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The last location also has a timer on it. Shops do not disappear unless the area they are in is destroyed. You can do quests to evacuate the people to a safer location though.

                There is a hard time limit of around 2 weeks. But that is 14 rests. As long as you don't rest then the timer does not count down.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So there is a hard timer. Thats annoying and makes me consider it worse than the everfall, unfortunately. Especially if I have to run through the whole game again just to get back to it with pissant enemies that die in one or two hits. If ng+ had all the harder variants with the full shops open it'd be a different story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The timer is once again based on resting. It does not count down if you're just playing normally.

                And NG+ merchants keep all their stock from end game. But enemies spawn as normal so it becomes stupidly easy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's a timer on the final quest but it never actually destroyed the world or anything, I could keep playing forever if I wanted but there's nothing to do anyway.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You did encounter some new enemies in the Everfall along with new variants. Not that the whole place was spectacular or anything, just saying.

                >didn't you say you were going to bed
                yeah but I'm autistic and struggle to disengage from arguments. Why else would I be on Ganker still at 8am.
                It's not that I have something better to do, it's that I think its ridiculous to have to repeat myself when you can literally just scroll up.

                You're probably repeating yourself because you haven't been able to prove your point

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >prove
                It's subjective opinions you fricking moron nobody is proving anything. This board is loudly screaming into a box with other people. There is no great debate here. There is no great truths unearthed by b***hing into the proverbial void.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your original post claimed everyone complaining about 2 and liking 1 was a secondary.
                If there are no debates, then you sure changed your mind fast

                >didn't you say you were going to bed
                yeah but I'm autistic and struggle to disengage from arguments. Why else would I be on Ganker still at 8am.
                It's not that I have something better to do, it's that I think its ridiculous to have to repeat myself when you can literally just scroll up.

                Honestly you could just accept the idea many people aren't willing to take the same whipping a second time

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >People thought MK great cannon trivializes the game? remove MK entirely.
          >Replace with a new red/blue that gets a force field that also trivializes the game and it was more boring

          finally, his dream game is perfected...

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People are beat it and you don't see anyone commenting on Grigori, or any character like Mercedes, is that bad

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Very first footage of DD2
    >"Wow this looks to have frick all enemy variety and the movement looks like shit"
    >Shills: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    >morons: Yeah! REEEEEEEEEEEEE
    >DD2 comes out
    >

    You know, it's not some special gift. All you have to do is use your eyes and what they are attached to. It should be so easy.

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are the seneschal and pathfinder the same thing or is the pathfinder above the seneschal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same thing but probably different name because people are too dumb these days to understand or know what a seneschal is.

      It is also flat out stated, the arisen in DD2 is not going to be a replacement for the seneschal. The dragon and arisen fight is just entertainment for the current seneschal. He never had any intention of having you replace him.

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the entire desert area should just be removed from the game
    pure filler zone

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no difference between these shitter enemies, they die instantly, same with all the harpy variations, at least the metal golem doesn't play out the same as a normal golem, and the first game has goblin reskins too and I don't count them lmao, you're just delusional if you think dd2 actually has more enemy variety, it would be equal at best which is trash for something that's meant to be a sequel and not a remake.

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does the endgame drop anything of note? I'm surprised they didn't just go with a randomized dungeon of some sort.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The end game spawns in a bunch of tough enemies, each one has a chance to drop a rare piece of equipment.

      I did not get chance to fully explore the world because I ran out of time. But there is indeed new locations that would have previously been hidden underwater. If you ever saw a place you could not access due to water, it's likely that location opens in the unmoored world.

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