SOUND... the retreat...
SOUND... the retreat...
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what the FUCK was his problem
He really hated Orlais and the new king
>Doom my own country to own the French
Insecure that the king was going to dump his barren daughter for the nublile empress
His PTSD and calculated ruthlessness served a purpose in a guerilla warfare rebelllion, not an apocalyptic scenario involving the potential destruction of everything on the planet.
The French literally raped his dog and that's the whole reason. To be fair I'd hate it if my dog was frogged too.
>yeah, but what if it ISN'T the real blight?
>if we let them steal our women maybe they will fuck off
He never once sat down with the gray warden and allister and just explained his plan to beat the blight, would have solved the entire story if he just did that.
I think in that moment the king was the bigger issue than the grey wardens. And he knew they probably wouldn't be down for a coup.
the only sensible person in the entire series
the king was a naive idiot and loghain did the right thing
>the only sensible person in the entire series
Far from it. The fact that he was supporting Howe says all about his sensibility. Loghain was more or less right about Cailan, but very short sighted regarding everything else.
Loghain doomed Ferelden and possibly the entire world because he was paranoid about the Orlesians, and because nobody told him that the archdragon is undefeatable without a warden. If plot grandma hadn't intervened at the tower, it would have been all over and it would have been Loghain's fault.
Blame the Grey morons for keeping it a secret
Loghain did the best with the info he had at the time
Of course they had to keep it a secret. Who in their right mind would volunteer to be a Grey Warden if it meant you have a significant chance of dying BEFORE you even get to be one. Who is going to volunteer when they find out that over time you slowly lose your sanity and end up dying in the deep roads where your body won't even be recovered. Who in their absolute right mind would volunteer to join where you end up dying if you manage to defeat an archdragon and stop a blight.
Stop being retarded.
people join ISIS all the time
Grey Wardens act as if the concept of martyrdom doesn't exist lol
Martyrdom requires religious conviction and the Grey Wardens need more people than the ones who have duped themselves into thinking the Maker wants them to die fighting Darkspawn for the rest of their lives
entirely different. People joined ISIS because they were winning and actually created a fanatical muslim khalifate. The moment isis started losing, gone were the new applicants.
you mean when the CIA pulled their funding
sure w/e, my point still stands. No one wanted to join when they were losing
that might work during a blight, but what about the 100+ years between blights?
Loghain plz. We all know you did all this shit cause Cailan wanted to dumpl your ugly daughter. If you were serious about saving Ferelden, you wouldn't waste your remaining forces at tracking and killing Grey Wardens.
Loghain refused to take the Darkspawn seriously from the very start. The moment Duncan suggested Fereldan's armies alone might not be up to the task of stopping the horde all his attention went to Orlais. He didn't take it seriously even as the Blight spread across the country, he organised no real defense other than against the Banns who were starting to see through his bullshit.
His "best with the info he had" was to let his country be invaded and his people die because he hyperfocused on the French
… which makes perfect sense sense the country had JUST been freed from orlais
Refusing to let the frog soldiers in to die at Ostagar was one thing, refusing to do anything about the massive horde he had just seen at Ostagar was another
Grey Wardens have to keep it secret because its literally blood magic, which is the biggest taboo in Thedas
he saved half the army and himself which was the right call
hard to fault him for acting decisively with limited info
this
>”hey bro we MIGHT have a blight on our hands here, and we need these warden guys who are literally the only people capable of stopping it as was evident in the past”
>genocides all the wardens in fereldin and tries to assassinate any remaining ones
He went full retard.
>lets the blight run over his country to save it from the french
'ate the Orlesians
'ate wardens
'ate me barren spawn
'luv me Ferelden
simple as
You know that Loghain was his teacher, right?
LET'S DROP THE MORAL POSTURING, SHALL WE?
I love that line.
Dragon Age 4 leak showed its gonna be a god of war clone
dragon age is medieval mass effect
If only. That'd mean we would import the chad Grey Warden into future games instead of having to play as Hawke or the Inquisitor. Then again perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that the Warden isn't around during those shit games
Canon ages for characters:
Alistair (20)
Morrigan (~26-28)
Leliana (~ 26-28)
Sten (~ 40)
Wynne (48 yes)
Zevran (~25-26)
Shale (1.185)
Oghren (~ 35-40)
Loghain Mac Tir (>~ 52)
The Warden: Mage (~16-18), Dwarf Commoner (~16-19), Dwarf Noble (~22-25), Dalish Elf (~17-21), City Elf (~16-19), Human Noble (~18-22)
>Wynne 48
>looks like she's about to fall asleep and never wake up
wtf happened?
>play as a mage
>get groomed by morrigan
Hot
>Morrigan (26-28)
Fuck off she's suppose to be like 17, just cos Bioware can't make young looking models for shit
Nah
She was born somewhere around 9:02 to 9:05 Dragon (source World of Thedas Vol. 2)
>Mage (~16-18)
>Morrigan (~26-28)
>Leliana (~ 26-28)
hot
>kills your dog
SOUND... the SEEEEEEEX....
>barren womb
The game should have allowed to spare her under the condition that she becomes the grey warden cock sleeve to boost troop morale and after the darkspawn is defeated she will be a prostitute in the pearl.
>barren womb
Wasn't it implied it was her husband who was sterile?
How did Cailan dry up her eggs?
No, even with Alistair she still has no kids
Grey Wardens are infertile
How did I fuck a baby into Morrigan then
Magic
she got the shortest end of the stick
Why the FUCK couldn't they give Alistair a custom model? He was one of the main fucking characters of your flagship games. Fuck Bioware
he's the only one on there that actually stays dead if you choose kill them
Why would you ever want to kill him?
Because your new wife-queen demands it
Guys you didn't kill your best bro because your gf doesn't like him, r-right?
I did one playthrough where my sole objective was just to fuck with him
>Kill the injured soldier during the Ostagar quest
>Sided with the Mages
>Let everyone in Redhill die
>Kill the possess child
>Marry Anora
>Have him executed
I chuckled, good shit anon
Too bad everything after Origins is fanfiction.
cope all you want
Leliana did, if you compare her with her trailer look.
Bann Teagan had it the most rough
holy shit
wtf happened
Like a fucked up Christmas elf crossed with the old guy from those six flags commercials.
>I don't think...
>OF COURSE YOU DON'T!
Another shit Bioware character. Other being Kreia
>Kreia
>Bioware
You had me for a second.
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST RETREATERINO SAVEEEEE MEEEEEE
I didn’t mind this. But then making the Gray Wardens a scapegoat was what pissed me off.
I still recruit him because it makes Alistair seeth so hard he becomes an alcholic
Why would he kill Maric's son?
For inviting the Orlesian's back and maybe trying to fuck the Empress
Inviting Orlesian WARDENS isn't a bad thing, since the Ferelden chapter was non-existent at the time. Him fucking around with Celene, I get.
Still, he could have done more to correct Cailain instead of choosing to sacrifice the son of his hero/idol.
He invited an entire Orlesian army
The last good BioWare game.
It was kino.
where the FUCK are Loghain's troops?
>I served Ferelden under Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir. Best commanding officer this world has ever seen.
Another beautiful day at Castle Cousland, I'm sure nothing will go wro-
>cousland mom wears anora's clothes and has her hairstyle
>cousland male is the only person that can fuck anora
>The virgin tactical retreat and backstab to conserve forces for a more sensible defense later
versus
>The chad charge headfirst into endless enemy hordes despite near certain death because duty and honor demand it
>For death and honour
>No option to impregnate GILF Flemeth
Shit series
What the fuck else do you think Morrigan is there for, retard?
I want mommy dom, not a shit whining child with a bunch of angst.
BioWare has something against hot older women
Bioware story writers do, but character designers obviously love them.
Missing Kreia
I mean I hate the French as much as anyone, but when you have even a possibility of an unlimited army that will hideously murder the lucky and gruesomely rape the unlucky, maybe you should make some concessions.
Orlesians would straight up annex Ferelden if they had half a chance, so he was right in not wanting to let them in (the french wardens have shown themselves to be absolute mongoloids too)
But it means that their only hope was to force an early final battle like Cailain wanted. So Loghain was still being retarded.
Please tell me DA4 will be the last in the series and have completely different endings
>Given the choice - whether to rule a corrupt and failing empire or to challenge the Fates for another throw, a better throw, against one's destiny - what was a king to do?
>bring Morrigan to the magic tower
>literally forced to kill Wynne
What did they mean by this?