Spelljammer is a disaster and i am rustled

>Its okay for it not to have a ship combat focus
>If you want that play Starfinder or Traveller
>Its rules light, and thats okay
>Why do you care about lack of rules rather than this monkey with a banjo???
>The Critical Role crowd lose interest when it does low youtube numbers because normalfags dont care about space fantasy.

I just wanted Treasure Planet D&D was that so much to ask?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    waaaaah I don't feel compelled to give WotC my money now because it's obvious they don't give a shit about doing what they're paid to do,
    and instead of sticking to older material or finding/making new homebrew I'm just gonna kill a thread on /tg/ for no reason and pretend I'm a victim

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry this took one of your dozen coomer or warhammer threads. Somehow i hope you find the strength to power through this and move on with your life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My condolences about your goblin smut thread.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      too bad, we only had like 4 orcess threads, whatever will we do, now that there are only three of them?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh, threads dying is the inherent nature of imageboards; don’t be a bitch about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you enjoy being such a negative asshole to everyone who says anything that mildly chaffs you? Fuck sake are some people not allowed to just like D&D anymore? Who fucking cares if it's shit, I see more and more people turning on it even on plebbit by the day but you still need to feel special by telling everyone on a pen and paper board that they're stupid cunts for liking the most popular among them? You're pathetic

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically D&D should split into Basic and Advanced again
    Basic for the critical role retards, Advanced for the crunchy autists like me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they already did anon its called 5e and pathfinder.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play Hackmaster instead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a better idea: It should fucking die.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and make the pathfinder autists more powerful?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not just submit to GURPS if you want crunch? It's good.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed or just have a split in teams like hoe they develop monster hunter so there's atleast some kind of option for more dedicated fans who would like to use it since it's the most popular but the rules are trash and nonexistent

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They'd accuse WotC of gatekeeping

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Still expecting D&D content to deliver
    >In the year of our lord two thousand and twenty two

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've never tried streaming before, but I'm going to try streaming this weekend to see if I can make better Spelljammer rules in a Saturday than WotC did with their whole staff.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Smaugchad

    This is literally what Spelljammer was like originally. They might have changed the physical nature of the crystal sphere and phlogiston but it seems like they were true as shit to the unusable 3D combat guidelines and the baked in overall implausibility.

    Are the helms still made exclusively by the Arcane race?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you jump off at a certain angle, could you hypothetically just keep yourself in orbit?

      also, if you throw someone off the deck, does that just mean they float to the central bow line after droping and rising?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you jump off at a certain angle, could you hypothetically just keep yourself in orbit?
        No, you fall to the gravity plane and just sort of bob up and down on it, like floating in water. If your ship is moving too fast, it can leave you behind, though.

        >also, if you throw someone off the deck, does that just mean they float to the central bow line after droping and rising?
        Yup.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so it fundementally acts like buoyancy then rather then a center of gravity?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. It's supposed to work like a ship at sea. But the plane of the sea is unique to each ship.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Treasure Planet was a commercial flop, so it in fact seems like nobody has ever wanted this schlock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Treasure Planet had terrible marketing and was released at a very poor time. Disney was looking to get out of conventional animation anyway, so they didn't do the film any favors. Everyone who actually saw the movie liked it as far as I've seen.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More than that, it was actively sabotaged. 2D animation was growing more costly, particularly with the new background-animation tech they introduced in Tarzan. Atlantis and Treasure Planet both utilized this tech and were vastly expensive. There were more than a few autists who did deep-dives and interviewed crew members, uncovering that the lack of marketing and other such things were intentional, to convince the board that the tech was a flop and to begin the transition toward CGI made with lowest-bidder artists.

        https://i.imgur.com/dKklYou.jpg

        >Its okay for it not to have a ship combat focus
        >If you want that play Starfinder or Traveller
        >Its rules light, and thats okay
        >Why do you care about lack of rules rather than this monkey with a banjo???
        >The Critical Role crowd lose interest when it does low youtube numbers because normalfags dont care about space fantasy.

        I just wanted Treasure Planet D&D was that so much to ask?

        Why would you want anything D&D in this day and age, anon? Are you enjoying chud elves, money-grubbing bullshit to a level never before seen, and incomplete content sold at full price? Can you just not get enough of gobbling WotC's cock?
        >Orcs remind me of black people - you're such racists for me coming to that conclusion!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More than that, it was actively sabotaged. 2D animation was growing more costly, particularly with the new background-animation tech they introduced in Tarzan. Atlantis and Treasure Planet both utilized this tech and were vastly expensive. There were more than a few autists who did deep-dives and interviewed crew members, uncovering that the lack of marketing and other such things were intentional, to convince the board that the tech was a flop and to begin the transition toward CGI made with lowest-bidder artists.

        [...]
        Why would you want anything D&D in this day and age, anon? Are you enjoying chud elves, money-grubbing bullshit to a level never before seen, and incomplete content sold at full price? Can you just not get enough of gobbling WotC's cock?
        >Orcs remind me of black people - you're such racists for me coming to that conclusion!

        Nobody cares about Treasure Planet, just as nobody cares about Spelljammer. It was always trash.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go fuck yourself tastelet.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, and the publishers really do not give a fuck. They're sitting pretty in the pop culture limelight while surrounded by nu-consoomers so why pump out a high-effort supplement when they can shit out one that will make just as much?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, why are we shitting on this? Did wizards remake it for 5e or something?
    If so, and you played it, what the actual fuck were you expecting, you god damned retard?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, they did make a 5E cover. And we all here expected it to suck.

      We didn't expect most of the nu-d&d shills and media cucks to ALSO kinda dislike it. That was new.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did and its hyper rules light to the point even the diehard shills are mostly saying to avoid the purchase and getting pissy on twitter that spelljammer content has no views.

      Its basically just critical role in space which means sometimes you fight on the deck of a ship between planets. Thats it. Its a book mostly of flavour for existing sword coast and strixhaven horseshit.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These are the people that rebooted Strathaven as the most gayest, most inoffensive, sanitized, rules-lite Hogwarts rip-off ever conceived outside of Fanfiction websites.

    part of its hype was releasing a free adventure for how your characters could work at Starbucks for a day. Not even a joke.

    You honestly expected these people to do something worthwhile with spelljammer? REALLY. you expected better of these worthless creativity-voids? These terminally online twitter-things?

    Your inability to extrapolate past data is your own failure, dude. This book was like any child of this vapid, progressive generation: Doomed at conception.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reboot Strixhaven? That's a Magic setting that was literally college Hogwarts.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well? How long are you gotta let WotC spit in your face before you stop paying them for the pleasure? Stop playing D&D and find an alternative.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Not only do they actively and openly hate you, but the lore is utterly pathetic. I'm personally a huge fan of 4e but even those who aren't tend to agree that the lore for the default setting is fantastic - primarily because it was written by people who loved D&D and grew up playing 1e/2e, rather than being written by spergs whose writing is influenced by the political bogeyman of the current moment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Give me a low agency alternative to sell to my group

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play Ad&d
    >No, that is a neonazi game
    Cope

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing any jotc product
    NOPE

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried not playing D&D?

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spelljammer has been a disaster from day one. People came forward repeatedly and said this was nobody's baby. Some of it was fixed in post but I've dug down into it for weeks at a time and never found much of a core.
    It's always been an afterthought with the only real appeal being an excuse to draw airships in front of a starry background.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you really want to pay for 5e Spelljammer, some based autist on DMsGuild has probably done a full conversion of the 2e line. Something like what 5 Minute Workday did for Ravenloft. Unrelated, but when the VRGR sale let me buy all their content for $10, leaving enough space to add a copy of Domains of Dread and still come in under the VRGR price, I was completely baffled as to what goes on in WotC head office.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I just wanted Treasure Planet D&D was that so much to ask?
    Just homebrew your Treasure Planet D&D is that to much to ask?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing wrong with bring rules-light or not having a focus on ship-to-ship combat, not really.
    But really shouldn't be too much to ask for our treasure planet D&D, either, and by God did WOTC fuck this one up. I've been spending a lot of my free time over the last couple weeks working through a conversion of old-school Spelljammer rules to 5e, based on a mix of other people's homebrews and my own thoughts on how to handle things. I might post them here once I'm done and test them a bit with my players.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Instead of porting the AD&D version to Retard Edition, why not just run AD&D?

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