Sales for Miles properties have been very healthy overall. Compare the boxoffice of his movie that came out this year to all the other superhero movies from this year.
>Sales for Miles properties have been very healthy overall.
The movies are the ONLY Miles Morales media that has done well. His comics flop. His standalone game flopped. His toys flop compared to classic Peter Parker. He's a prime example of "fake it until you make it," and once he no longer has the crutch of ol' Pete to rely on you'll see just how "healthy" his name is.
>His comics flop
No one cares about comics. Peter is having the worst comic run of all time at the moment.
>His standalone game flopped
Nope. It sold well for what it was. I am sure no one with above a room temperature IQ expected a Miles spin off game to sell as well as the mainline Spider-Man game
>His toys flop compare to classic Peter Parker
That's true for every superhero.
Spiderverse didn't sell for Miles. It sold for having a variety of Spider-Men interacting. That and the unique at the time visuals.
Also Miles was actually fun in Spiderverse. I don't know what Insomniac was thinking but he sucked as a character
I haven't seem people talking about Miles in any of these movies.
I hear people talking about the animation style, Miguel, and I believe Peter, if that's the older Spooder-Man in the first one.
Miles isn't a chatacter; he's just black Spider-Man, and I think he could have potential if they played the father/son police officer/vigilante angle, and tried to give him his own villains instead of Peter's seconds.
Miles sole purpose is to be black and replace Spider-Man, and yes, it is political.
Spider-Man is either the #1 or #3 superhero worldwide, depending on who you ask, if you make him black you can feel like you've done some major political change.
Yes. Marvel writers are that retarded.
>Spider-Man is either the #1 or #3 superhero worldwide, depending on who you ask
I agree overall but what the fuck does this mean? Surely there's an objective metric for this.
>Compare the boxoffice of his movie that came out this year to all the other superhero movies from this year.
You mean the absolute worst most disastrous year for superhero movies ever for both of the Big Two? Still behind Z-list GOTG lmao.
GOTG3 stood entirely on the strength of itself, GOTG1 and 2, the IP was Z-list not even 10 years ago and those movies built it up, compare that to ATSV that stands on the strength of the entire 60 year old AAAA Spider-Man IP and relies on nostalgia and references to literally every single piece of Spider-Man media ever and every Spider-Man ever and it was still seen by fewer people than any of the GOTG movies.
>Miles properties >two movies whose marketing has been 90% the other spider-people >the second one having more promo material for side cameos that have barely 5 seconds of screentime >"Miles properties"
this nigga cannot stand on his own, literally every instance of his 'success' has been on the backs of other characters. they can't even call him some shit like spider-dude he HAS to walk around with spider-man's name
>Black Panther movie made more money than every other superhero solo movie apart from the latest Spider-Man.
Yeah, the first one, because it had the whole BLM fervor behind it. The sequel was significantly less proffitable, like 500 million less profitable without a male lead. Even though they broke even, it was considered a flop because the line didn't go up.
That's only because black people thought Wakanda was real. Entire black churches were bussing their congregations to see it. You can't count on that every single time.
As can be seen with BP2.
The media didn't push it as some kind of revolution.
Even today, any criticism of BP1 is invalid because you just hate black progress.
It's legitimately viewed as some kind of movement.
Kind of sad.
pretty much this, its funny they cant just consult with black creators or even revive an old always been black superhero to make it them
I think they screwed over static shock even
A woman who has gone out of her way to demonize white men.
Flanked by a black and a Muslim.
The last big moment was Reed Richards/Professor X, who the killed in humiliating fashion and pissed everybody off.
Diversity hires come hand in hand with shitty writing as the whole thing is a political hammer.
White men bad
White history bad
"You don't get it"
Look at Blade. Nobody cares, because back then it wasn't political. Blade just happens to be black. He makes no issue about it, it's not meant to send a message, he's there to kill vampires and wear shades
Most black comic book characters were made for political reasons.
>Peter was holding back
Then why can he stand a chance against a Venom that isn't? >Peter weakened him
Then let Peter finish the fucking fight >jobs Kraven
As I said, you can NEVER see it. Why not play Miles, but show he's still somewhat inexperienced and Kraven beats him? >almost let people die
Almost. He doesn't. >stop being Spider-Man
It's not for awhile the implication is that he's retired. End of. Without even a trilogy
Stop coping bro.
>Then why can he stand a chance against a Venom that isn't?
I don't know. Comic book and game logic are never consistented. One moment Spider-Man is having trouble stopping a car, and the next moment he is lifting a 350-ton crane. >As I said, you can NEVER see it
Why does it matter? You see Mile barely being able to move when you get to him as Peter. >It's not for awhile the implication is that he's retired. End of. Without even a trilogy
Do you really think Peter won't be playable in the third game? then you have another thing coming. >Stop coping bro.
I'm not. I've literally said the game has problems in this thread.
Yes. I unironically expect Peter to be killed by Green Goblin.
This will break the alliance between Norman (who had lost his mind) and Otto, who still does care for Peter.
Otto will then aid Miles in bringing down Goblin.
NTA, but propaganda tends to fall under "shitty writing," anon. Miles, from his very creation, has existed to be a "Peter Parker replacement" and the fact that he is black is no coincidence. He has since gone on to replace Peter in movies, video games, other comic series, and I'm sure there are more instances that I don't even know about. You can't remove race from the discussion of Miles. It is a very deliberate choice on the part of woke, progressive Marvel to consistently replace white Peter Parker with black Miles over and over and over again, and they DARE you to call them out on it. Miles is not a character; he's a propaganda piece. And the latest iteration in Insomniac's game is perhaps the most egregious example where he is played as a black savior who can do no wrong, saves everyone, and all of the other characters spend the entire game falling over themselves to praise and thank Miles for everything. They aren't even hiding it anymore.
>the movies are shit. >they know the movies are shit. >they know that everyone will say the movies are shit. >they put black people in them so that they can attribute negative feedback to racism
Same thing happened at my workplace. They got a bunch of posters made that feature a black lesbian woman wearing are product. The posters are shit. The photography, composition, and presentation are shit. I can't help but think it's the same phenomenon. Their thinking is >well, this is gonna be shit so let's at least make sure it's politically irreproachable shit.
>retire
Why do anons keep saying this? Peter is just taking a short break while he can focus on his own life for a while, nowhere in Spider-Man 2 did they ever suggest he was retiring
A "short break" means 1-2 games without Peter, or roughly 10 fucking years in real time. The world will be a smoldering crater before we get a game with white spiderman again, so for all intents and purposes he's permanently retired.
# because he physically had no powers any more
No, it was the psychological impact of him not being able to carry the weight of being NYC hero anymore, he doesnt want to be Spiderman during that part of the film. I've read all the classic Amazing comics till #500 (and many of other runs) and Peter not wanting to be Spiderman because its too much responsibility is a common trope, Spiderman is a story about sacrifice for the greater good. If Miles is Spiderman then he can rest for a while till a threat too big for 1 hero comes along
It takes like 5 years minimum to make a AAA game, so 10 years for 1-2 games is a good estimate. At the very least we know for sure no Peter for the next Spiderman game.
>what is the source on peter taking a break for 2 games, or 10 years.
It's just common sense. Peter will sit out the next game, and possibly whatever expanded DLC standalone game comes next. He'll show up in the fourth numbered title, which should release in like 10 years.
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>green goblin and doc ock teased for spiderman 3
You're retarded if you think Peter is not going to be the main character.
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ock is gonna trap Peter in carbonite or something so Miles can save him.
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I think they're going to go "Superior Spider-Man" route and have Ock take over Peter's body. So Peter will be trapped in Ock's body for the whole game, providing support to Miles and Silk. Ock will try to use his new Spider-Man body to get revenge on Norman, and it will end up being Miles and Silk (and maybe Harry) trying to stop Ock and Norman. SCREENSHOT IT
All triple a mainstream garbage is botted to death on this board and elsewhere. The whole internet is a DARPA funded project and none of it is organic, naggerloving conditioned normalfags
It wasn't right at all, wish I knew why they made Peter such a cry-baby in Spider-Man 2, Miles is the one who's brand new to this lifestyle, he's the one that should be needing motivation, not motivating a 10+ year veteran
Because Peter is a straight white male who must be humiliated, degraded and lessened so the non-white replacements look better than him. Even if you give them the benefit of doubt and strip any potential agenda away, the writing is just poor but still the same. Peter has to be torn down so Miles can look better.
>Because Peter is a straight white male who must be humiliated, degraded and lessened so the non-white replacements look better than him
I want to say you're wrong, but it's clear as day the female writer felt compelled to make Peter a little bitch so that the spotlight can shift to white women, minorities, and the disabled.
Peter being a bitch would work if he came out for the better after it but he does not. He is bailed out by Miles constantly, he is wildly emotional and incompetent while MJ and Miles are great all the time. Weakness can lead to growth and should in a story about heroes but Peter's journey is very much the opposite of a heroes tale. If SM3 is him returning to save the day and assume his role once again then it might work but I expect it will just be more of what 2 started.
starting to think this board is retarded. It's obvious it's done so peter won't just ass obliterate whatever happens in the venom or Miles Morales 2 spin off before Spiderman 3 comes out. also all these spiderman experts saying peter would never quit when the nigga has quit over dumber shit like wanting to fuck Gwen's tight cooch without being bothered or cause he was le sad. Here he has to pay all mays house and beat MJ into submission, that takes time.
also miles mom is hotter than MJ he should have fucked her instead.
spider-verse miles is the only miles that feel like a different person. Look at his game version he is such a cornball as nigga in the game, its like that in comics nonstop.
Right or wrong decision, the execution is just plain horrible. >My friend is dying!! >I have to get Dr Connor back and help save his life!! >I got Dr Connor back >Fuck it, I'm just gonna keep the suit >Miles didn't even do anything, Peter didn't do anything exceptional >Arghhhh Miles you're useless!! I can only count on myself!!
Whoever wrote this shit needs to be fired and never touch foot in the writing industry ever.
A fan fiction can be better written than this fucking shit.
Miles not having a role in this game until the end was weird. its even weirder when you see people in these threads bitching about him when he doesn't do anything in the game until he helps get the suit off of Peter and the fight against Vemon.
>Its another thread with 30+ year old white boomers screaming "NOT MY SPIDERMAN"
I don't get it. If there are more Spider-Man fans, then that's a good thing.
It's never been about race you stupid racist.
It's about shitty writing.
Yep. The new movies are bad because they fail to write good stories and characters.
Peter is portrayed as incompetent, Miles makes no mistakes.
Miles can beat Peter WITH the Symbiote, but loses to Kraven (only implied offscreen, can't see Miles beaten)
Venom kills Kraven.
Peter HELPS against Venom. Miles, who has no relationship with either the Symbiote or Harry has to come finish the job.
Peter flat out says Miles is better
Stops being a hero... at 25, antithetical to who Peter is as a person.
Miles is a Gary-Stu, period. Why not let Peter finish his own story? Miles will take on Doc Ock and Green Goblin (Peter's arch fucking enemy) while Peter likely gets killed off or flails around like a retard.
>Miles can beat Peter WITH the Symbiote
Peter was holding back like he was with Kraven in that same arc. >Peter HELPS against Venom. Miles, who has no relationship with either the Symbiote or Harry has to come finish the job.
That was one of the shitty parts of the game where Miles has no personal stakes in the story besides protecting and helping Peter. >Miles is a Gary-Stu
He isn't not even in this game where he jobs against Kraven like you said. >Miles makes no mistakes.
He almost let people die when he was trying to stop Kraven's men from taking Martin Li. >Stops being a hero... at 25, antithetical to who Peter is as a person.
There is nothing wrong with him stopping being Spider-Man for a while; he does it in the comics.
>Peter was holding back
Then why can he stand a chance against a Venom that isn't? >Peter weakened him
Then let Peter finish the fucking fight >jobs Kraven
As I said, you can NEVER see it. Why not play Miles, but show he's still somewhat inexperienced and Kraven beats him? >almost let people die
Almost. He doesn't. >stop being Spider-Man
It's not for awhile the implication is that he's retired. End of. Without even a trilogy
Stop coping bro.
>There is nothing wrong with him stopping being Spider-Man for a while; he does it in the comics.
He does it at the START of a story, so it can END on him realizing he absolutely cannot retire, the retirement is not framed as a happy ending for him
>There is nothing wrong with him stopping being Spider-Man for a while
It doesn't make any fucking sense. No one forced him to be spider man in the first place, he does it because he wants to and he has no reason to stop.
Out of all the things wrong with this game, there's one line that really just fucking irks me the most, when Blackcat for no reason yells "YOU REALLY ARE SPIDER-MAN!" to Miles, completely out of character
She's never that open or praising, but for some reason with Miles she feels the need to say something like that? It would have been more in character for her to just say "you're not that bad after all kid". Also her "thank you" to Miles at the end was ad-libbed, another out of character thing for Blackcat to say to someone
She probably got to know him better throughout the years.
First movie was still a flop.
Same for his game compared to SM1.
>First movie was still a flop. >flop
They made a sequel and about to finish the third movie. Flops don't get sequels. >Same for his game compared to SM1.
It was literally DLC.
>She probably got to know him better throughout the years.
Who, Miles? She doesn't even know him, other than he's just the other Spider, they first meet in S2
It happened offscreen bro.
Miles and Black Cat actually developed a really deep relationship, you just don't see it.
??? Characters are just drilling it into you that this is Spider-Man now? Telling, not showing?
I'm a shill? No way. Insomniac are geniuses, Miles is just that good of a character.
bruh I fucking love spider-man games for just swinging around and shit but I can't be fucked to play this one with all the bullshit pandering Insomniac. Will mods be able to save this game on PC?
Kind of.
At the start he was his own universe, which was eh, they never really created new villains for him.
He's more often pushed to be Peter's replacement though, but again, they don't give a reason why or make him stand out. He's just black Peter.
Even more so, Ultimate Peter got killed off just to introduce him, then Miles got fellated by everyone (Ultimate being the "everyone's a dick" universe mind you) and given random powers as a replacement for personality and stories, only to fail and get relaunched over and over again until the line got canned and a bullshit 616 retcon presented real Peter and him as best buds despite not having any history outside 3 or so awful crossovers with zero substance. Miles is the worst Marvel character bar none, it cannot be overstated, I'll take Gabby Rivera's America over him any day for she's funny in being awful.
When this game comes out on PC, day 1 some modder is going to upload a parody of the opening scene where Peter and Miles are stripping off their clothes and they're going to just be naked when they jump off the building together, like they're a gay interacial couple committing suicide with the glee of a McDonald's commercial.
Ngiger, its elementary-tier >Spiderman (1) >Peter is Spiderman >Spiderman 2 >Both Miles and Peter are Spiderman >Silk teaser at the end >Spiderman 3
You know the rest
Dunno, lets see the sales numbers for 3 when it comes out
Sales for Miles properties have been very healthy overall. Compare the boxoffice of his movie that came out this year to all the other superhero movies from this year.
>Sales for Miles properties have been very healthy overall.
The movies are the ONLY Miles Morales media that has done well. His comics flop. His standalone game flopped. His toys flop compared to classic Peter Parker. He's a prime example of "fake it until you make it," and once he no longer has the crutch of ol' Pete to rely on you'll see just how "healthy" his name is.
>His comics flop
No one cares about comics. Peter is having the worst comic run of all time at the moment.
>His standalone game flopped
Nope. It sold well for what it was. I am sure no one with above a room temperature IQ expected a Miles spin off game to sell as well as the mainline Spider-Man game
>His toys flop compare to classic Peter Parker
That's true for every superhero.
Spiderverse didn't sell for Miles. It sold for having a variety of Spider-Men interacting. That and the unique at the time visuals.
Also Miles was actually fun in Spiderverse. I don't know what Insomniac was thinking but he sucked as a character
I haven't seem people talking about Miles in any of these movies.
I hear people talking about the animation style, Miguel, and I believe Peter, if that's the older Spooder-Man in the first one.
Miles isn't a chatacter; he's just black Spider-Man, and I think he could have potential if they played the father/son police officer/vigilante angle, and tried to give him his own villains instead of Peter's seconds.
Miles sole purpose is to be black and replace Spider-Man, and yes, it is political.
Spider-Man is either the #1 or #3 superhero worldwide, depending on who you ask, if you make him black you can feel like you've done some major political change.
Yes. Marvel writers are that retarded.
>Spider-Man is either the #1 or #3 superhero worldwide, depending on who you ask
I agree overall but what the fuck does this mean? Surely there's an objective metric for this.
Batman and Spider-Man often switch, it depends on what media is popular and where you're asking.
Superman is usually a consistent #2.
First movie was still a flop.
Same for his game compared to SM1.
>Compare the boxoffice of his movie that came out this year to all the other superhero movies from this year.
You mean the absolute worst most disastrous year for superhero movies ever for both of the Big Two? Still behind Z-list GOTG lmao.
>GOTG
>Z-list
Is this 2013?
When they came out? Yeah.
GotG were nobodies before that movie.
GOTG3 stood entirely on the strength of itself, GOTG1 and 2, the IP was Z-list not even 10 years ago and those movies built it up, compare that to ATSV that stands on the strength of the entire 60 year old AAAA Spider-Man IP and relies on nostalgia and references to literally every single piece of Spider-Man media ever and every Spider-Man ever and it was still seen by fewer people than any of the GOTG movies.
>Miles properties
>two movies whose marketing has been 90% the other spider-people
>the second one having more promo material for side cameos that have barely 5 seconds of screentime
>"Miles properties"
this nigga cannot stand on his own, literally every instance of his 'success' has been on the backs of other characters. they can't even call him some shit like spider-dude he HAS to walk around with spider-man's name
>MCU has white leads
>success
>replaces them with blacks and women
>flops
>now desperately trying to pull back the white leads
>insomniac game has white spiderman
>success
>replaces him with miles morales
you are here
them with blacks and women
Black Panther movie made more money than every other superhero solo movie apart from the latest Spider-Man.
Plus Blade kickstarted all the Marvel movies (and is still the best).
>Black Panther movie made more money than every other superhero solo movie apart from the latest Spider-Man.
Yeah, the first one, because it had the whole BLM fervor behind it. The sequel was significantly less proffitable, like 500 million less profitable without a male lead. Even though they broke even, it was considered a flop because the line didn't go up.
To be fair black panther 2 didn't have black panther on account of the actor dying. No one gives a fuck about the sister of the cool guy.
Blade is great
John Stewart is the best Green Lantern (what an unfortunate name)
Miles fucking sucks
That's only because black people thought Wakanda was real. Entire black churches were bussing their congregations to see it. You can't count on that every single time.
As can be seen with BP2.
The media didn't push it as some kind of revolution.
Even today, any criticism of BP1 is invalid because you just hate black progress.
It's legitimately viewed as some kind of movement.
Kind of sad.
black panther is not a replacement of a previously white/male character
pretty much this, its funny they cant just consult with black creators or even revive an old always been black superhero to make it them
I think they screwed over static shock even
The MCU is flopping because the movies are fucking ass. The latest movie has a white lead and it is shit and it is flopping.
A woman who has gone out of her way to demonize white men.
Flanked by a black and a Muslim.
The last big moment was Reed Richards/Professor X, who the killed in humiliating fashion and pissed everybody off.
It's never been about race you stupid racist.
It's about shitty writing.
Diversity hires come hand in hand with shitty writing as the whole thing is a political hammer.
White men bad
White history bad
"You don't get it"
Look at Blade. Nobody cares, because back then it wasn't political. Blade just happens to be black. He makes no issue about it, it's not meant to send a message, he's there to kill vampires and wear shades
Most black comic book characters were made for political reasons.
>Then why can he stand a chance against a Venom that isn't?
I don't know. Comic book and game logic are never consistented. One moment Spider-Man is having trouble stopping a car, and the next moment he is lifting a 350-ton crane.
>As I said, you can NEVER see it
Why does it matter? You see Mile barely being able to move when you get to him as Peter.
>It's not for awhile the implication is that he's retired. End of. Without even a trilogy
Do you really think Peter won't be playable in the third game? then you have another thing coming.
>Stop coping bro.
I'm not. I've literally said the game has problems in this thread.
Yes. I unironically expect Peter to be killed by Green Goblin.
This will break the alliance between Norman (who had lost his mind) and Otto, who still does care for Peter.
Otto will then aid Miles in bringing down Goblin.
NTA, but propaganda tends to fall under "shitty writing," anon. Miles, from his very creation, has existed to be a "Peter Parker replacement" and the fact that he is black is no coincidence. He has since gone on to replace Peter in movies, video games, other comic series, and I'm sure there are more instances that I don't even know about. You can't remove race from the discussion of Miles. It is a very deliberate choice on the part of woke, progressive Marvel to consistently replace white Peter Parker with black Miles over and over and over again, and they DARE you to call them out on it. Miles is not a character; he's a propaganda piece. And the latest iteration in Insomniac's game is perhaps the most egregious example where he is played as a black savior who can do no wrong, saves everyone, and all of the other characters spend the entire game falling over themselves to praise and thank Miles for everything. They aren't even hiding it anymore.
>the movies are shit.
>they know the movies are shit.
>they know that everyone will say the movies are shit.
>they put black people in them so that they can attribute negative feedback to racism
Same thing happened at my workplace. They got a bunch of posters made that feature a black lesbian woman wearing are product. The posters are shit. The photography, composition, and presentation are shit. I can't help but think it's the same phenomenon. Their thinking is
>well, this is gonna be shit so let's at least make sure it's politically irreproachable shit.
Ahh finally. A character my wife's son can relate to.
Sure, who cares, they might as well be the same character, they sure are written that way
How does Spiderman retire? Does he just walk by someone doing something illegal and go 'nah, not my problem anymore'
Yeah, did you not see Raimi's Spider-Man 2?
>retire
Why do anons keep saying this? Peter is just taking a short break while he can focus on his own life for a while, nowhere in Spider-Man 2 did they ever suggest he was retiring
They arent going to put him as the MC in anymore games
A "short break" means 1-2 games without Peter, or roughly 10 fucking years in real time. The world will be a smoldering crater before we get a game with white spiderman again, so for all intents and purposes he's permanently retired.
Makes no sense though, Peter isn't just going to stand by and watch as shit happens like
says. He only did this in
because he physically had no powers any more, Marvels Spider-Man doesn't have that problem.
My worry is they're going to kill him off in Spider-Man 3 because it's the only answer to him not weirdly not being around when NYC is going to shit
Peter is going to be relegated to greasemonkey status, he'll make gadgets for Miles and that's it. MJ will still have her own sections.
>He only did this in
# because he physically had no powers any more
No, it was the psychological impact of him not being able to carry the weight of being NYC hero anymore, he doesnt want to be Spiderman during that part of the film. I've read all the classic Amazing comics till #500 (and many of other runs) and Peter not wanting to be Spiderman because its too much responsibility is a common trope, Spiderman is a story about sacrifice for the greater good. If Miles is Spiderman then he can rest for a while till a threat too big for 1 hero comes along
>A "short break" means 1-2 games without Peter
source?
It takes like 5 years minimum to make a AAA game, so 10 years for 1-2 games is a good estimate. At the very least we know for sure no Peter for the next Spiderman game.
what is the source on peter taking a break for 2 games, or 10 years.
Ganker.com
>what is the source on peter taking a break for 2 games, or 10 years.
It's just common sense. Peter will sit out the next game, and possibly whatever expanded DLC standalone game comes next. He'll show up in the fourth numbered title, which should release in like 10 years.
>green goblin and doc ock teased for spiderman 3
You're retarded if you think Peter is not going to be the main character.
ock is gonna trap Peter in carbonite or something so Miles can save him.
I think they're going to go "Superior Spider-Man" route and have Ock take over Peter's body. So Peter will be trapped in Ock's body for the whole game, providing support to Miles and Silk. Ock will try to use his new Spider-Man body to get revenge on Norman, and it will end up being Miles and Silk (and maybe Harry) trying to stop Ock and Norman. SCREENSHOT IT
All triple a mainstream garbage is botted to death on this board and elsewhere. The whole internet is a DARPA funded project and none of it is organic, naggerloving conditioned normalfags
It wasn't right at all, wish I knew why they made Peter such a cry-baby in Spider-Man 2, Miles is the one who's brand new to this lifestyle, he's the one that should be needing motivation, not motivating a 10+ year veteran
Because Peter is a straight white male who must be humiliated, degraded and lessened so the non-white replacements look better than him. Even if you give them the benefit of doubt and strip any potential agenda away, the writing is just poor but still the same. Peter has to be torn down so Miles can look better.
>Because Peter is a straight white male who must be humiliated, degraded and lessened so the non-white replacements look better than him
I want to say you're wrong, but it's clear as day the female writer felt compelled to make Peter a little bitch so that the spotlight can shift to white women, minorities, and the disabled.
Peter being a bitch would work if he came out for the better after it but he does not. He is bailed out by Miles constantly, he is wildly emotional and incompetent while MJ and Miles are great all the time. Weakness can lead to growth and should in a story about heroes but Peter's journey is very much the opposite of a heroes tale. If SM3 is him returning to save the day and assume his role once again then it might work but I expect it will just be more of what 2 started.
Remember Peter, with great power comes great responsibility. Unless a black Spiderman shows up in which case you can stop.
Didn't the Miles Morales game sell like shit compared to Spider Man 1?
starting to think this board is retarded. It's obvious it's done so peter won't just ass obliterate whatever happens in the venom or Miles Morales 2 spin off before Spiderman 3 comes out. also all these spiderman experts saying peter would never quit when the nigga has quit over dumber shit like wanting to fuck Gwen's tight cooch without being bothered or cause he was le sad. Here he has to pay all mays house and beat MJ into submission, that takes time.
also miles mom is hotter than MJ he should have fucked her instead.
>Flying the Cuban flag in their apartment
>i...it was just an accident we swear
that didnt even happen. at most its implied that peter is taking a break during whatever happens between the end of 2 and the next game.
I will admit Miles Morales is Spider-Man when people defending him explain to me why they didn't give a shit about him until his cartoon movie
spider-verse miles is the only miles that feel like a different person. Look at his game version he is such a cornball as nigga in the game, its like that in comics nonstop.
Right or wrong decision, the execution is just plain horrible.
>My friend is dying!!
>I have to get Dr Connor back and help save his life!!
>I got Dr Connor back
>Fuck it, I'm just gonna keep the suit
>Miles didn't even do anything, Peter didn't do anything exceptional
>Arghhhh Miles you're useless!! I can only count on myself!!
Whoever wrote this shit needs to be fired and never touch foot in the writing industry ever.
A fan fiction can be better written than this fucking shit.
Miles not having a role in this game until the end was weird. its even weirder when you see people in these threads bitching about him when he doesn't do anything in the game until he helps get the suit off of Peter and the fight against Vemon.
I don't get it. If there are more Spider-Man fans, then that's a good thing.
Yep. The new movies are bad because they fail to write good stories and characters.
Peter is portrayed as incompetent, Miles makes no mistakes.
Miles can beat Peter WITH the Symbiote, but loses to Kraven (only implied offscreen, can't see Miles beaten)
Venom kills Kraven.
Peter HELPS against Venom. Miles, who has no relationship with either the Symbiote or Harry has to come finish the job.
Peter flat out says Miles is better
Stops being a hero... at 25, antithetical to who Peter is as a person.
Miles is a Gary-Stu, period. Why not let Peter finish his own story? Miles will take on Doc Ock and Green Goblin (Peter's arch fucking enemy) while Peter likely gets killed off or flails around like a retard.
>Miles can beat Peter WITH the Symbiote
Peter was holding back like he was with Kraven in that same arc.
>Peter HELPS against Venom. Miles, who has no relationship with either the Symbiote or Harry has to come finish the job.
That was one of the shitty parts of the game where Miles has no personal stakes in the story besides protecting and helping Peter.
>Miles is a Gary-Stu
He isn't not even in this game where he jobs against Kraven like you said.
>Miles makes no mistakes.
He almost let people die when he was trying to stop Kraven's men from taking Martin Li.
>Stops being a hero... at 25, antithetical to who Peter is as a person.
There is nothing wrong with him stopping being Spider-Man for a while; he does it in the comics.
>Peter was holding back
Then why can he stand a chance against a Venom that isn't? >Peter weakened him
Then let Peter finish the fucking fight
>jobs Kraven
As I said, you can NEVER see it. Why not play Miles, but show he's still somewhat inexperienced and Kraven beats him?
>almost let people die
Almost. He doesn't.
>stop being Spider-Man
It's not for awhile the implication is that he's retired. End of. Without even a trilogy
Stop coping bro.
>There is nothing wrong with him stopping being Spider-Man for a while; he does it in the comics.
He does it at the START of a story, so it can END on him realizing he absolutely cannot retire, the retirement is not framed as a happy ending for him
That's because Comics are never ending slop.
>he says while defending Slopper-Man 2
No, I shitted on Spider-Man 2.
>There is nothing wrong with him stopping being Spider-Man for a while
It doesn't make any fucking sense. No one forced him to be spider man in the first place, he does it because he wants to and he has no reason to stop.
I want to have anal sex with Miles Morales from Spider Man 3
Out of all the things wrong with this game, there's one line that really just fucking irks me the most, when Blackcat for no reason yells "YOU REALLY ARE SPIDER-MAN!" to Miles, completely out of character
MY Black Cat would never...
the man face....
and yet, still more of a woman than Inwokeniac's version will ever be
>completely out of character
How so?
She's never that open or praising, but for some reason with Miles she feels the need to say something like that? It would have been more in character for her to just say "you're not that bad after all kid". Also her "thank you" to Miles at the end was ad-libbed, another out of character thing for Blackcat to say to someone
She probably got to know him better throughout the years.
>First movie was still a flop.
>flop
They made a sequel and about to finish the third movie. Flops don't get sequels.
>Same for his game compared to SM1.
It was literally DLC.
>She probably got to know him better throughout the years.
Who, Miles? She doesn't even know him, other than he's just the other Spider, they first meet in S2
It happened offscreen bro.
Miles and Black Cat actually developed a really deep relationship, you just don't see it.
??? Characters are just drilling it into you that this is Spider-Man now? Telling, not showing?
I'm a shill? No way. Insomniac are geniuses, Miles is just that good of a character.
>She's never that open or praising
You clearly know nothing about the character.
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>anons being racist again
>Its another thread with 30+ year old white boomers screaming "NOT MY SPIDERMAN"
This is the vidya equivalent of modern Spider-Man filled with all these random shitty spider people that nobody fucking cares about
bruh I fucking love spider-man games for just swinging around and shit but I can't be fucked to play this one with all the bullshit pandering Insomniac. Will mods be able to save this game on PC?
>replace hero with a diversity hire that has all his powers and more
gee I wonder....
Is this Miles shit just as annoying in the comics too?
Kind of.
At the start he was his own universe, which was eh, they never really created new villains for him.
He's more often pushed to be Peter's replacement though, but again, they don't give a reason why or make him stand out. He's just black Peter.
>He's more often pushed to be Peter's replacement though
not in the comics outside of ultimate, what are you talking about
Even more so, Ultimate Peter got killed off just to introduce him, then Miles got fellated by everyone (Ultimate being the "everyone's a dick" universe mind you) and given random powers as a replacement for personality and stories, only to fail and get relaunched over and over again until the line got canned and a bullshit 616 retcon presented real Peter and him as best buds despite not having any history outside 3 or so awful crossovers with zero substance. Miles is the worst Marvel character bar none, it cannot be overstated, I'll take Gabby Rivera's America over him any day for she's funny in being awful.
Comic Miles is one of the most boring fictional characters ever written. He may as well be made of cardboard.
>spiderman but dog turd hair and zesty
classic
When this game comes out on PC, day 1 some modder is going to upload a parody of the opening scene where Peter and Miles are stripping off their clothes and they're going to just be naked when they jump off the building together, like they're a gay interacial couple committing suicide with the glee of a McDonald's commercial.
>haven't played in weeks
>boot up game
>its a mj mission
>close game
where is my 2099 game fuckers?
>no 2099 game
>no Batman Beyond game
It's not fucking fair.
Batman isn't as popular as Spider-Man so they can't put out Non Bruce Wayne games otherwise they just flop.
Compare the Miles Morales game vs Suicide Squad or Gotham Knights kek
if blacks vanished from the planet, what sector of society would suffer?
whites and israelites.
Only Sportsball fans.
Literally nobody else would notice.
What sector would suffer if whites vanished? What do mayos even do but embezzle funds?
>what sector of society
society.
It was the right move if they want to copy the absolute failure of the comics and get 10% of the sales that Peter gets
I love black people bros! They Contribute so much!
is this another /misc/ racebait thread?
Who gives a fuck. All capeshit is trash.
Nobody mentioned /misc/ before you did brother.
Take some meds
It was the plan all along.
Ngiger, its elementary-tier
>Spiderman (1)
>Peter is Spiderman
>Spiderman 2
>Both Miles and Peter are Spiderman
>Silk teaser at the end
>Spiderman 3
You know the rest