>Square openly admits the FF16 and FF7-2 flopped

>Square openly admits the FF16 and FF7-2 flopped
I guess that’s it, frick how did this even happened? the games were good

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  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    FF7 Redditbirth is ubishit and flopped hard
    FF16 is a cringe trash movie, and it flopped

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Rebirth sold well and will be GOTY.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Nope
        Rebirth it's trash ubishit

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Game has towers that reveal shit
          >Game bad
          As long it's not Ubisoft, it's ok morons.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        "Sold well" is not the rhetoric we should be hearing about the FF7 remake.

        This is a game that was expected by even the most cynical people, to be the thing that put Squeenix back on top for at least a while based on nostalgia alone. The fact that there's even room to argue over if its a flop or not is pretty incredible.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Take your meds Larry. You lost.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I dont even know what else would compete with it. What even could win GOTY this year other than FF7 rebirth? Wukong? Elden Ring DLC? Not when it already won GOTY. Is it going to be some game nobody's ever heard of before like It Takes Two?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Literally anything lmao
          Even Helldivers 2 is a more likely choice

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Multiplayer games dont win GOTY aside from Overwatch. It will win best online game if anything.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Elden Ring was GotY 2022. DLC can't win Game of the Year. Even if it was to be a better game experience than anything this year.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Stellar Blade already got it's reviews crippled by the "MUH MALE GAZE" journos so that's discarded.
          Dragon's dogma II and Helldivers 2 are the only candidates.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Which is a shame, because the Stellar Blade combat is tighter and more satisfying than anything I've seen released in the last 10 years.
            Yes, I see what I did there.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          FF7 Rebirth had literally zero cultural impact besides tifa's breasts. It's not winning anything.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            popular vote is basically worthless. Journalists are judging it and FF7 rebirth is the one I think they will pick. I'll be surprised if something else gets enough hype to beat it. Dragon's Dogma 2 certainly didn't.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Helldivers has had significantly more hype around it then FF7 Rebirth. I really don't understand where all your confidence about FF7R is coming from.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                review scores. Helldivers was huge but its an online game so I dont think it will win.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Right now, my vote is Unicorn Overlord

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe Metaphor?
          Looks cool

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically balatro

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Are FF7 Stillbirth fanboys the most delusional bastards in the history of gaming?

        >It doesn't matter if it left the Japanese top 10 in just one week, it sold well!
        >It doesn't matter if it left the global top 10 in just two weeks, it sold well!
        >It doesn't matter if Square isn't talking about sales numbers, it sold well!
        >It doesn't matter if Square is having a lot of layoffs, it sold well!
        >It doesn't matter if Square is running away from Sony, it sold well!
        > It doesn't matter if Square is saying the game flopped, it sold well!

        When will the copium run out?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          the FF16 ones are worse because of the ff14 cultists

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You frickin what? Literally nobody defends XVI except to antagonize Barry.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The game audiences don't even overlap

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You frickin what? Literally nobody defends XVI except to antagonize Barry.

              You arent fooling anyone YoshiP cultist morons

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                as if I'd be a xivtroony, you're worse than those cultists

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              99% of FFXVI fanart is gay shit drawn by FF14 fujos

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >ff14 cultists
            call them what you want but they're the ones keeping SE alive.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              No that's gacha players

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        The Fallout 3 remake will come out this year and Todd will win once again.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Plenty of people were willing to give the Remake the benefit of the doubt, to say "it doesn't matter here, what matters is what we lead into, it has to be worth it to continue" and it seems lots of people don't think it was.

        Its like this, there were four groups of people who bought the FF7 remake:
        -Nostalgiagays who wanted to give something different a chance.
        -Nostalgiagays who simply like the characters and wanted more of them.
        -Zoomers who heard of the hype behind the title and wanted to see for themselves if it was good.
        -Zoomers who simply got it because their friends got it.
        But for Rebirth:
        -Nostalgiagays who were willing to give it a chance before were disappointed, so they didn't buy it.
        -Zoomers that bought into the hype didn't even like Remake, so they didn't bother coming back.
        -Zoomers who bought the last game cause their friends did, noticed their friends not buying Rebirth, so they didn't buy it.

        That leaves the only, ONLY PEOPLE, who bought Rebirth, nostalgiagays who only like the characters and never cared about anything else anyways. Sorry to say this anon, but this "trilogy" cannot survive on that alone, they adjusted their budget assuming the other three groups were gonna return, but they didn't. Unless they scale back sales and sale expectations (we all know they won't do that), the third game IS in danger of just not being made at all.

        As for where I am, I am a nostalgiagay who was willing to give this project a chance, but the story in Remake didn't interest me at all, so I didn't care to continue it, sorry.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          they should've just made it an actual fricking RPG like people who wanted a FFVII remake actually wanted

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Part of it is shareholder budget bloat, always wanting to "out perform" themselves, but some of it is also japanese pride these "artists" have to where they believe they cannot just do what fans ask them to do. Their greed was too strong, they couldn't just give the fans what they wanted, even though the pros far outweigh the cons. People were open to something different, but this wasn't the answer.

            From now on, if Square says they are gonna "remake" anything, I won't care, I won't giving it the time of day, can't risk being lied to again, simple as.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >but some of it is also japanese pride these "artists" have to where they believe they cannot just do what fans ask them to do
              someone needs to go in there and slap their shit and remind them they're fricking toy designers not artists.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Blame the morons who've been trying to merge games and movies the last decade+
                Every director for a game with any kind of plot and a budget over a million tries to be the next academy award winner

                I dont see the need to remake ff7 with the same combat as there are tons of mods for it that touch up the visuals, soundtrack, and gameplay of the original

                I don't see the need to modernize (for occasionally better, but mostly worse) ff7 with shiny flaily combat as Square should've had some pride, seeing all aforementioned mods and say "oh, we can do way better". The original combat was perfectly fine, and utilizing different materia combos was awesome
                They easily could've released a 1:1ish with the same animation speeds, new/ more materia, a few tweeks/ additions to the plot (not nearly as grand and stupid as the ones in RE1&2), and done it all with considerably less budget, in 1, maybe 2 games max, and it could've been easier to develop with all modern/ upcoming consoles in mind, not some resource intensive mess

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Game developers and designers can surprisingly have the most narrow minded takes.
                Reminds me of when I read about Shinji Mikami not understanding why there were still people asking for a classic Resident Evil style title.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                or game devs in general not realizing that people actually did still want 2D sidescrollers for the entirety of the PS1/N64-PS2/Gamecube generation, basically until New Super Mario Bros came out.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair it's not like they died during that period
                Nintendo had the Mario/Wario/kirby GB/A games
                Sega had sonic advance
                Ubisoft had Rayman

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Remake and rebirth are both RPGs. Do you mean to say you are upset that it isn't turnbased?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              No they aren't. Just because the game has stats doesn't make it an RPG. It's a character action game.

              Also, fricking have a nice day.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit you've never played character action or rpgs huh

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              nta, but
              1) turnbased ≠ ATB
              2) it's about more than the combat
              3) yes, in part, I am upset it wasn't closer to a 1:1, combat included

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I dont see the need to remake ff7 with the same combat as there are tons of mods for it that touch up the visuals, soundtrack, and gameplay of the original

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically Ubisoft productions are more fun and look better, particularly Far Cry. Square has relied on pre-rendered cinematics and music since, well, since FFVII. And they sacked Sakaguchi for what lmao? What a joke of a "game" company. Only thing they've done worthwhile in almost 40 years is produce the Deus Ex prequels, which I'm sure was incidental and they had zero knowledge what they were even investing in until Human Revolution became an underground success, so they fricked MD with microaggressions out the ass.
      Goddamn I want to nuke Squaresoft out of existence.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >say you will make final fantasy
      >make something else instead
      >nobody buys it because they want final fantasy
      Wowwwwwwwww

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    zoomers don't buy singleplayer games, especially not when they think they need to play 6 other games to understand ff7
    and milennials are aging out of gaming

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Well, kind of , yeah.
      Me and all my friends are 35+ and out of us 10, only 3 dont have kids. I still play vidya with a kid and 2 other friends as well, the others stopped. But the industry is also making it clear that they're not targeting me, which makes sense, and you'll not find me b***hing about woke stuff on here, since I accept its no longer "my time". This happens every generation and is a way of telling you "move on".

      Now I still enjoy vidya, and I have way more cash in my 30's compared to my teens, but I also have less time and really dont care about playing a game "now" because marketing told me to buy it now.
      So 90% of the games I bought the last few years were:
      A: classic gen 6 games for around 10 bucks
      B: steam games for around 3 bucks a pop.
      I got pleasure in finding good games sub $5.

      Thnx for reading

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >But the industry is also making it clear that they're not targeting me, which makes sense, and you'll not find me b***hing about woke stuff on here, since I accept its no longer "my time".
        This shit is being pushed by people in your age bracket or older, you delusional moron

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and its not pushed AT him, moron. Learn to read

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >since I accept its no longer "my time".
        lel what a turd. Shame you reproduced.

        >Thnx for reading
        shouldnt have!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >zoomers don't buy singleplayer games
      Get off Ganker, EA

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >and milennials are aging out of gaming
      I am sorry I am not but they did spit in my face with this shitty game so I am not giving them money.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off you I just don't see the point in upgrading from the PS4 for two games that'll be released on PC anyway

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why do all these soys make this face? It drives me frickin nuts.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They never learned how to fake smile properly.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Did people not understand what this was or do I not understand what people want?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Probably a bit of both with the urge to consoom smoothing over any issues

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Metallica shirt
      PlayStation

      He’s literally me.

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Its an industry problem. People feel lonely so they player multiplayer garbage or visual novel simulators.

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Had you played the original you'd know why the remaster, remake, demake, etc is garbage. I'm glad this happened, now they have to sink or swim. Tick tock squeenix

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I played the original and the remake giving it a spin and expanding on multiple things is a great thing. It actually justifies itself its existence and decisions. Shame i couldnt say the same of remakes like persona 3 reload which is just another replay.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That was all bait and switch though, had they kept most of the story instead of using time ghosts frickery ot would have sold billions. Nomura keeps fricking everybody over and his yes men are not helping.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          morons who haven't played remake or rebirth are so easily spotted. 95% of the story is the exact same

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            And the 5% that isn't is radioactive shit that pushes normal people away

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Normal people didn't play FFVII, anon. Normal people didn't play video games in 1998.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Star Wars remake
            >Luke Faces down Darth Vader
            >"Luke, I am your-huh?"
            >suddenly he is wisked away by ghosts
            >then Luke has to do Spider Man jumps across rubble in the ghost dimension for the next 20 minutes
            "I don't get why people hate it. The plot is 99% the same"

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I played the original way back when, one of the greatest games of all time. Remake is shit, Rebirth is great.

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >ff7 remakes are boring trash that are 100 hours each
    who the FRICK signs up to play this shit
    Now they are locked in to making FF7-3

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      zoomies are ruining gaming

      they can make part 3 a dlc

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      maybe they'll make a real FF7 remake now after the marvel multiverse garbage flops

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    ff was always cringe and embarrassing
    the more you know

  8. 6 days ago
    FBI Agent 742

    I'm not paying $70 for a video game.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Amen. Budget games are always shit.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    KWABOTY

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >3 million sold in a week
    >flop

    this article feels like a clickbait

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Issue being that it hasn't moved past that since then and it wasn't enough to recoup costs.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Make $200 million
      >”woah that’s a lot”
      >Had to spend $400 million to get there
      >”wait a minute I lost money”

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >shipped = sold
      you gays will never learn, will you?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      "Flopped" and "did not meet expectations" are not the same thing. Square Enix has had absurd expectations for sales as far back as the Squaresoft days.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      BarryGOD won bigly

      it literally didn't profit moron
      3m doesn't mean shit if its still $0 profit despite 3m sales

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >it literally didn't profit moron
        reading is hard

        i thought jannies banned your lying spamming ass.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          For you?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Release a remake of your most famous and iconic game
            >1.0% increase in sales
            grim

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >consolidated net sales for the fiscal year increased.
            >sales increased
            anons help, how is this an own lol

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >reading comprehension

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >sales increased
                Profits decrease because other projects. europe is being fired. this is the best time to be a nomura fan and a yoshi fan. they literally won square.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              sell me all your $10 bills for $1 each
              You can have infinite sales if you want

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >You can have infinite sales if you want
                cope all your want. profits are about the entire HD sub-segment. i will cope with sales and more games.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          see

          Genki is a moronic Black person shill who often LARPs as Japanese. He also shamelessly copy-pastes tweets and info from others. He wants to be nibel so badly, lol

          gayki is not a source of anything
          FF16 and 7 rebirth flopped and didn't profit

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >nooooooo let me ignore the Financial report from SE because Twitter man says otherwise
          Honest to god what is wrong with modern FF gays? They are so tied to the series emotionally that they can't accept people calling out the companies failure. This is even more apparent with XIV, XV and XVI players, especially the MMO players.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >a clickbait

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is what happens as shareholders bloat and inflate spending budges and sales expectations. Now even 3 million in a week "isn't good enough". Square Enix won't learn until they are close to the edge of destruction.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder: they announced this but never announced FF7 Stillbirth's sales

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine fricking up remaking FF7, how the frick do you even do that?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      by adding a pointless open world instead of actually remaking the fricking game with some updated gameplay and QOL

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Production driven entirely by three talentless, narcissistic losers experiencing late-stage midlife crises
      >Fake money-laundering trilogy with the first "chapter" being a bait-and-switch tech demo for technology from the PS3
      >Trilogy itself is going to take almost a decade to release, not including DLC/EU crap and the inevitable literal movie that will come out in 2030
      >Bethesda "play forever" mindset for the second iteration and presumably the third
      >Hire nobody who knows how to design games or write a coherent screenplay, end up dedicating more time to nostalgiabaiting despite the game already by definition and demand being said bait
      >Marketing costs presumed to be out the fricking ass despite the game being one of the most popular in existence, to the point where people unfamiliar with the medium know about it just via osmosis
      The disconnect is so profound it's almost admirable.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        From the bloomberg article

        >Has been relied too much on an individual's creativity. Will promote sharing game making how-how among teams and will seek best balance of individual creativity and organizational discipline

        Looks like Nomura's days as king are over

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The current CEO is a good friend of Yoichi Wada, who has often criticized the CBU model, stating that it gives too much power to its heads instead of being well-organized corporately. He cited it as one of the reason for Square Enix's downfall

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >The current CEO is a good friend of Yoichi Wada
            dear god...

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Explain, nerd. Who are these pan faced nerds and how do they connect and or relate?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      FF7 was just one game, now they are selling different game three times but under the name of old game.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      What, you didn’t like the game grinding to a halt because you have to pick up 3 herbs to make a potion?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      by not remaking it but pretending you did

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    We need to go back to Ivalice.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No
      have a nice day
      all Ivalice games are terrible

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Terrible taste anon, Ivalice is based.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's just GoT for weebs.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Stellagay? Is that you?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Stellagay
        Who?

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What are these asiatics blabbering about? 16 made almost a quarter of a billion in it's first week. What these israeliteks are really saying is that they wish they could charge 120 release day, greedy frickers.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing how SE has fumbled FF7R of all things. You need to frick up hard to fail with something that had so much hype for so long behind it. All they had to do was a straightforward remake, not this 3-part multiverse fanfiction bloatfest, and release it on more than one goddamn platform.

    I really hope this new CEO can turn things around.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I really hope this new CEO can turn things around.
      I don't, hope these homosexuals go under finally. They had it coming for a long time now.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        A company is not a single, constant entity for you to be vindictive against in this way.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Nah it is, frick em.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure that's an easier thought for you to process.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >if today's day end in y square will be disappointed in the sales of their games
    was there ever a game they were happy with? feels like they lamented poor sales since forever

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    They could have made tens of millions in pure profit if they just gave FF7 the REmake treatment. Upscale the pre-rendered backgrounds and character models to match, maybe add voice acting.

    That's it.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why? FF7 is fricking boring. It's not even a good turn based. You're pressing attack 70% of the game. At least in FFIV and V you had to press different buttons due to jobs

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Women, homosexuals, and trannies who keep pushing LGBT bullshit are the main reason why Square Enix is what it is today

    I'm glad the new CEO understands this, and the first thing he did was to remove these parasites

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad these parasites are finally gone
      letting women into the workforce is what lowered the quality of the games

      women are cognitively incapable of creating anything of value

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You will never know what it's like to be caressed by a woman.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          YWNBAW

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Thats a powerful fetal alcohol face. Broad looks like a Roegadyn

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no, she lost her nepotism, made-up position

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad these parasites are finally gone
      letting women into the workforce is what lowered the quality of the games

      women are cognitively incapable of creating anything of value

      until he kills the ethics department, he's just as bad in my eyes

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This explains why FF has been nothing but rancid fujo bait lately.

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'll probably get rebirth when it comes to PC, and with a 30% price cut to it eventually. or wait for the 50%

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    They were not good, FF16 is Lords of the Fallen tier wannabe slop, just another mediocre shallow action game
    FF7 rebirth is some morons Kingdom Hearts x FF7 fanfiction

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Investors react:
    >sell shares heavily, stocks fell to the day's trading limit
    >concerns are pipelines have become too empty, no big titles that can lift up the company's top line over the next couple of years

    Wow, Square is fricked

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >cancel AA titles
      >just released multiple AAA flops so it'll take years to make any new ones
      >pipeline is empty
      >shocked pikachu face
      are they actually THIS moronic?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I guess they expected these massive AAA releases to sell a lot until the next ones were ready

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          but even so after seeing them flop, why kill off the AA that were in development? They might not make enough to offset the losses but it has to be better than sitting there crying about an empty pipeline with no money coming in anytime soon

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The investors are gamblers. Every release is a roll of the dice. If every small release is a new game or a something that didn't historically make a ton of $$ then they're going to demand that the company only roll the dice twice a year on potential huge wins, and not roll 8 or 9 times a year and risk death by a thousand cuts.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, yeah, gamblers.
              Imagine you're the inverstor and you're seeing SE admit to fricking the dog on the most straightforward and easy homerun ever. FF7 remake. Fricking flopped.
              At that point, there's no hope SE will ever get their shit together. Zero. Of course you'd sell.
              Everyone would.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              they are gamblers and they are losers, instead of going for sensible bets they are going for the 100000/1 no hoper every time just dreaming about WHAT IF it won

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >ps5 exclusive
    >part 2 of a remake that contained the only part of the game people actually remember
    >stretched a 3 hour segment to 30 hours
    >altered plot and gameplay
    >not advertised in the slightest, the only reason i know it even exists is because of this board
    gee i wonder

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Foamstars released?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Foamstars?
      FTFY

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I won't be touching Rebirth until I can buy it at least 50% off. I do not want to pay full price rpg's where 90% of gameplay is doing MMORPG sidequests or imitation yakuza m where im running around having super slow conversations with kooky characters. All the good FF games reward exploration and engaging with the world but it also had much better pacing. New squeenix games are fricking interminable.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually much better than FFXVI. It's long but it actually feels like content instead of just fast travelking between shitty dialogues. Much better pacing than Remake too.

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    >Baby game rip-off
    >Boring Game of Thrones hallway simulator
    >Scatterbrained ubishit game wide as an ocean deep as a puddle
    They're not good games

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are all starting to feel and sound the same. Discord raid or schizos?

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Get woke, go massively fricking, holy shit dude, broke
    What a fricking massive blood bath.
    Never hire leftists, jesus christ dude look at this, never in any situation it doesn't matter the reason
    NEVER hire leftists

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Is it SQNNY?
      because it's actually dirt cheap. At $16 a trade. Might be worth to hold for a few years.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      ff7 remake was supposed to be their break-in-case-of-emergency golden goose
      but they fricked it up hard with woke shit and time jannies fanfiction
      now they fired all their western employees lol
      go woke go broke

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >pic
        >man hands
        You aren't fooling anybody buddy lmao

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Does this mean we'll get Rebirth on PC asap + the third and final part day 1 on PC?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It means they're not making a third part.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Another Sonic 4 situation
        >…and it’s for the fricking Final Fantasy VII Remake
        This would be really funny so I hope it ends up being true.

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    All those frickups are intentional. Do you really believe that those people doesnt know what people wanted and want? They intentionally refuse to deliver

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's clear S-E don't know what it's consumers want

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        the only way to frick up FF7 remake is to do it intentionally.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Most of the devs who made the original don't even work at the company anymore

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            How can you accidently frick up "do the same thing but with modern graphics" formula? Becausethis is exactly what people wanted and devs knew it. Okay, making battles more flashy was a good call, but not everything else.
            I will never ever beleive that this was an accident

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I'm going to give my two cents here and state something I don't see a lot of people talking about. Rebirth wouldn't have sold well even if it and Remake were faithful.

              Splitting the game into three "parts" was never going to be a success. Remake did well enough because of nostalgia alone. Once casuals had gotten their nostalgia fix they were never going to come back for Rebirth. Because there's just no point - the whole point of sequels is to bring new things and a sense of novelty to a formula. Who's going to get excited once they experience all of the new things the whole trilogy will bring within the first game?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You are talking like nostalgia is the only FF7 selling point. It's a good game and zoomers arent touching it only because of shitty 90x graphics. It was a perfect opportunity to drab entire new generation into FF universe by the balls and milk them from decades. It would sell like crazy.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I agree, but having all of your characters start at level 1 again for literally no reason other than "sequel, lol" is tiresome for zoomers, specially when said sequel doesn't bring anything new to the table

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                level thing is not a problem when game and story is fun.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                But where are the sales numbers for Rebirth

                Just make it faithful and don't milk it dry by padding it like a mother fricker. Make it a two parter at the absolute most
                eezy peezy

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >But where are the sales numbers for Rebirth
                Around 2m.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                This is correct, it's a clusterfrick of both, time jannies marvel multiverse bullshit AND splitting it in three parts, but neither could do the damage they are doing together on their own

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, nah.
                Direct sequels sell. Remember Mass Effect 2?
                All they had to do is to make the first one really good. No padding, no bullshit, just make a good fricking game and the sequel will sell.

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Not on PC so I didn't buy.
    No I will never buy a snoystation

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The games were mid. Foamstars was also named. Nozoe was recently promoted and worked on all of them

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    This is just confirming what everyone who isn't a braindead fanboy already knew. It's fun watching them seethe and desperately try to spin it as good news in all these threads though.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It was obvious from the get go that the game was a flop and I pity the fanboys who tried to say it wasn't until the undeniable truth was right in front of their faces.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        they will STILL deny it and claim that this slop flopped because SE are working against them somehow

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Even before it released there was just no interest in it whatsoever. No fun memes like the time ghosts. No one even really cared enough to shitpost about it either. A lot like Starfield. The threads were all just the same handful of mentally ill shippers samegayging them to the bump limit.

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Barry won
    Raise your hand if you were called Barry for criticizing 16 and 7R

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Barry won
      Flopspoken also flopped and killed luminous, nobody is winning here

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I was enjoying Star Ocean 6, Harvestella and Strangers of Paradise in peace and even I lost all those kind of games from now on I guess

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You won't hear it here but jack's game also bombed hard sadly, and they can't say they didn't market it like all those other AA games that were dumped

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      luminous devs worked on the flops in the OP so Barry lost

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >"make games we want to play! cried the fans
    >"No", said SE, and gave them outsourced assets, action-RPG schlock, and time jannies instead

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Barry is the God king of Ganker. I kneel.

    >Vegetakneels.jpg

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Most people still cant buy those games.
    How hard is it to understand that not everyone has bought a PS5.

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Have a surefire success on your hand
    >literally just remake an old game
    >Thats it, thats all you gotta do, remake an old game, it's already made, just follow the bluesprints

    >don't do that because.........reasons
    >fail

    Well okay I guess

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I can only imagine devs that do this shit simply do not like the original.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      sir, you need to understand, we want money, we stretch game into trilogy for no other reason

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    people dont even know their other big frickup,The AI Portopia Serial Murder Case
    it was such a fricking embarrassment they couldnt even bullshit 70 year old businessmen with it, who were previously all wanking off about AI tech

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I want you to do well Square... I want you to be successful...

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >*sharts*

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      well, I wouldn't hold my breath. instead of firing the japanese people responsible, (nomura, kitase, hamaguchi, etc.) they actually just promoted them. they did layoff a bunch of DEI employees and other westerners, though

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is it really too much to ask for a FF to actually BE a fricking FF game? Say what you will about XIII, but at least they had the balls to keep it turn based

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Is a FF game still a FF game just because it's turn based even if XIII stripped literally everything else that made the series good? Plenty of turn based games aren't FF

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Don't get me wrong, XIII is dogshit in many ways, but it still attempted to be like a FF game. It failed, but it tried. XVI didn't even do that much, and VIIRE is a wearing a skinsuit of previous FF games and only loosely follows the original's plot out of a cheap sense of nostalgia

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Square Enix is known for having moronic expectations at times. I think it was some Tomb Raider game where they expected it to get 20mil in sales or something and were surprised_pikachu when it didn't happen.

    The games didn't flop. Their profit fell by 16% or so. Which means their profits were still around 84% of last years. So yeah... still turning a profit.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You're financially illiterate. They spent years and hundreds of millions making multiple AAA flagship titles. Profits should have soared with them releasing, them going down is apocalyptic.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      There's no universe in existence where 2 million sales for the most hyped and requested remake of all time is acceptable.

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Turns out shit games don't sell.

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    your grandpa was a homosexual just like you, thank frick that gaped ass homosexual finally died

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >t. booty nuked nip

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >frick how did this even happened
    PS5 exclusivity combined with overly high expectations. Squenix has already said they're moving away from Sony exclusivity and you're also incorrect about them flopping. Failing to meet expectations is different from being financial failures.

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Do outfit modders ever take commissions? Kinda want to get one to put Tifa in tight jeans.

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Not turn based+No overworlds=Not interested
    How many times do i have to say it?

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    FFX was the last true FF

    FF franchise died along with Square as far as I'm convinced

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      *concerned
      Dam auto correct

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      IX, but X is an honorary FF

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    WE, JUST, WANTED, A, REMAKE, OF, THE, OG, FF7, NOT, FRICKING, TIMEBlack folk! AND, USELESS, FILLER, CONTENT!

    Burn and suffer square-penis. Keep making more moronic decisions like a stubborn donkey going forwards, and keep burning piles of money.
    buuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrn.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that they can't seem to decide what the frick they're doing with the remake is really funny. The 1st part ended with you killing the time jannies. This literally and figuratively frees the future for the remake. An admission by the narrative that THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT. But then in Rebirth they fricking chickened out. Rebirth should have diverged almost completely. But no, the jannies are back and the story is going to remain largely unchanged. So instead of FF7: ALTERNATIVE, its like FF7: but with some extra shit that isn't very good.

      Fricking cowards.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Their lack of compromise with their own initial ideas is astonishing; that Schrödinger Aerith BS summarizes everything that is wrong with this project: she is alive and dead at the same time, this project wants to be different but be like OG at the same time, wants to be a sequel but with the main story at the same time.

  48. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    /v/'s insistence that every new release needs to be the next tortanic is so tiresome.

  49. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, even if you enjoyed the games and think they were good, please understand.

    PS5 exclusivity is a death knell.

  50. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody under the age of 35 gives a frick about Final Fantasy any more.

  51. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >lock game to nogamestation
    >nobody plays it
    Many such casee.

  52. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    don't lock j-action kino to a single console https://youtu.be/D_UaEvlqX4s?si=CW7x2ufGNFaoM1Jf

  53. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    FF7 Remake sold well because it was marketed as old thing you remember but new, but now everyone knows what they are getting and no one wants FF7 Kingdom Hearts Edition

  54. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't like 16 much when I first played through it at launch. After beating Rebirth, I now appreciate 16 more.

  55. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    guess again

  56. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Console exclusive is poison now. People are seeing more value in using PC now and if they can just wait to get it on there, they will.

  57. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    i thought jannies banned your lying spamming ass.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >SE president said from his own mouth during a financial meeting that FF7 Rebirth and FF16 didn't meet sales expectations
      >NOOOO YOU'RE A LYING SPAMMER, JANNIES BAN HIM
      moron

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >sales expectations
        oh semantics and word spinning.
        irl the games sold very well. square lost money because of irrelevant shit no one cares about. europe staff is being fired as we speak while noruma is making FF VIIR-3. literally the best case scenario in all fronts. also KH4.
        it's dangerous to go outside. take this: L

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          How many copies?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Doomsissies are moronic, please understand

  58. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    censored tifa

  59. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Release games exclusively to the shittiest console of all time.

  60. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine is they cancel the last FF7 part

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      They don't really have a choice but to release it, but it can bury them.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >They don't really have a choice but to release it
        Why not?
        Let's reminder everyone that Megaman Legends 3 is never coming out, despite the cliffhanger at the end of 2.
        "Because the story is not done" was never a guaranteed we will ever get a sequel.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Or Half Life 2 Episode 3.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It won't be cancelled but it will be done as cheaply as possible. The credits will look like a New Delhi census.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >new dehli census

  61. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Go Sony, no money

  62. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    FF7 is for homosexuals, play Jack's game instead

  63. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >honesty is so rare it's a headline when it happens

  64. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    why would sales be important to me if the game is already available to the general public and the third part is coming regardless? I'm not a shareholder or affiliated with squenix in any way, I have no motivation to care

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the third part is coming regardless
      Unless they go under in the next three years.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        their cult is bigger x times than blizzard one. they are not going anywhere

  65. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Metaphor: ReFantazio will probably get a few goty's and SE will seethe

  66. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >people still in denial about Rebirh when we have direct statements that the game underperformed
    What kind of mental illness is this

  67. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    These bastards told me the daily sell limit was hit for SE stock and won't let me sell. They better give me a fricking refund.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The stock dropped over 15% that they had to call off stock trading for the day
      Have any other video game companies experienced a similar shithousery like this?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        see

        Square is the single most moronic developer in the entire industry.

        Square is too moronic for their own good

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        the only other time I saw this recently was with anycolor/nijisanji after massive scandals
        Even embracer didnt go down this badly

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The stock dropped over 15% that they had to call off stock trading for the day
      Have any other video game companies experienced a similar shithousery like this?

      They legit stop trading if a company tanks too hard? Is that a Japan only thing?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's is most markets afaik

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's a fairly new thing, see the gamestop fiasco for more info.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >can't have the common man actually making money in the stock market install nkre israeli failsafe
          It's unreal the shit they get away wjth

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            the main issue for zog was the fact that people caught the scammers and milked them hard as frick by doing year long 4d chess

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The stock dropped over 15% that they had to call off stock trading for the day
      Have any other video game companies experienced a similar shithousery like this?

      Oops sorry lol I manifested too hard.

  68. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >people in this thread crying over SE "deus ex" games
    Exceedingly Grim.
    There is only one Deus Ex.

  69. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >release a timed exclusive on a failing console
    >wonder why nobody bought it.

    Surly square can't be this moronic.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Square is the single most moronic developer in the entire industry.

  70. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >SE thread
    >more posts about Dragon's Dogma than Dragon Quest

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Quest is Horii and Tori's studio

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Look up who develops the games.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe you should moron. It's those two studios with assistance from S-E or Level-5

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The current games are developed in SE. Armor Project isn't a full developer and Level 5 hasn't worked on the games since around DQ8.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Armor Project owns the IP and licences the IP out to S-E. All DQ projects are built around Armor Project's core developers with S-E or Level-5 as the workforce depending on the numbered entry

  71. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You can't like a game without being a cultist for some asiatic.
    >You said Burgertime was better than Pac-Man! That means you worship Chingchong McChinkyslant!

  72. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Release games as timed exclusives for a year or more on a single console with a smaller install base than previous iteration of console because you still think it's 1998.
    >Release games as Epic Game Store Exclusives for 6 months to a year, or in thr case of Kingdom Hearts, indefinitely.
    >Have a dogshit CEO who tries for years to push blockchain and NFT shit even after everyone else has already called it quits on that shit.
    >Your FF MMO, the only thing making you money, has an archaic account registration and payment system making the barrier for entry high compared to other games. Proceed to update it and make it worse by outright rejecting Visa and blocking out all of SEA
    >Release a bunch of merch that is stupid fricking overpriced or unnecessary. Like that 14,000 dollar Terra statue or those really cool OG FFVII action figures that were needlessly inflated in price because they come with NFTs nobody gives a shit about.
    >Give seasoned directors way too much spending freedom to the point that inflated budgets mean if you're not selling a minimum of 5 million units, you aren't making money.
    >Newer directors get a budget of 500 dollars and three interns to churn out a solid but small title that gets swept under the rug because it got no marketing.
    >Sold off valuable IPs like Tomb Raider for peanuts and then backed doomed projects like Flopspoken instead.
    >Can't even properly break into the mobile market because they don't understand the reasons people actually spend money on shit like Genshin and Fate GO. Shut down most of their mobile games and games as a service titles in a year. Will double down and learn nothing.
    This isn't a problem with these two games. It's a problem with the company leadership structure. It needs a gutting and a reality check. For every one step forward SE takes, it takes five steps back.
    Putting out a good game isn't enough for customers to forget all the stupid, dumb shit you do for years on end between big FF releases.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >>Can't even properly break into the mobile market because they don't understand the reasons people actually spend money on shit like Genshin and Fate GO.
      They actually do have one of the most profitable mobile games right now, the DQ themed Pokemon Go spin-off (which is, ironically, doing far better than Pokemon Go itself).

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >>Your FF MMO, the only thing making you money
      Wew this has to be written by a XIV troony. Mobile is what is keeping Square Enix afloat not your troony WoWclone. XIV was also in the financial gutter in the Fiscal Report. Square Enix is a mobile company and the Single Players and MMO are siphoning from it's revenue to operate.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        And even their mobile division is collapsing...It's ogre

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Mobile is their biggest source of revenue. What's with the claim that their smallest source of revenue, MMOs, is what's keeping the company going?

  73. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good

  74. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    They weren't.
    Also, back then FF games had the best ingame cutscenes and amazing worlds, they were the icon of PS, the most beautiful games. Now their games looks mediocre even in comparison with western games.

  75. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Time to make Ganker mad again with just a picture.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's been months and rebirth is still #1.

      Rest of the industry are you even trying?

  76. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.metacritic.com/game/final-fantasy-vii-rebirth/
      Bro, the user score is at 9.0 with more than double the user reviews now kek

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's almost as if these scores are completely for sale.

  77. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Stop doomposting, SE. Genki says this is [Good News]

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Genki is a moron shill, not a source

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Genki is a moronic Black person shill who often LARPs as Japanese. He also shamelessly copy-pastes tweets and info from others. He wants to be nibel so badly, lol

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >pro horror gamer

  78. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    more like ff7 stillbirth lmao

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      heh good one anon I chuckled

  79. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If SE fans could just take the L with dignity. Obviously the company hasn't sunk into oblivion. FF will continue. But you don't have to pretend 70% net loss is a good thing. You don't have to pretend the cancellation of lots of games is a good thing. You don't have to pretend people being fired is a good thing. The stockholders aren't looking at /ffg/ for reassurance, so you don't have to work so damn hard to spin every single thing as [good news] just because you've all been buck broken by Barry and left as the most overdefensive, paranoid and delusional defence force in the history of gaming.

  80. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    why do you homosexuals waste so much time caring about this dumb shit. who the frick cares. don't matter if it doesn't sell like crazy the ones buying it are the ones with good taste while everyone else has shit taste.

    >haha square dyin u cryin
    nobody gives a frick, not even people who like SE. I'm still getting part 3 and kh4. all I care about.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      (you) cared enough to post. i won.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      People who bought Rebirth are subhuman.
      FF7R is the MCU of video games.

  81. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Rebirthtroons so desperate to portray this as a success (2m sales is not a success, not even close)?
    Why do they feel this pathetic need to justify their own moronation like this?

  82. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    676408920
    >I MUST CONSOOOOOOME!
    we know moron, go buy some more shit you're making Mr. Shekelberg cry!

  83. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    barry/sales-cun. how mad are you that Nomura is making Remake part 3 as we speak and all other Square projects have been scrapped.

    on a scale of 1 to shitposting all day, how mad are you?

    please tell me for i much wish to know.

    please. just how mad.

    kh4. barry. it's coming barry. nomura can't stop winning barry.

  84. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >how did this even happen

    it happened because neither of those games are FFX

  85. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    openly admits the FF16 and FF7-2 flopped
    Lmao what's the cope going to be now on the XVI threads? Are they still going to screech Barry?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      they unironically are
      and they're clinging to some PS5 shill twitter account that can't even read

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's sad. Even sadder than the MMOgays pretending their sub-1 million player MMO gives SE it's lifeline.

  86. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    People want Final Fantasy to be four Black folk in a row turn based combat, not pure action games like DMC

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      What people? Most people haven't even played all the old homie in a row FF games.

  87. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    FF7 part 3 is still going to happened that a contract with Sony and plus obviously the developers obviosly wanna finish and are currently working on part 3 is that's still happening most likely gonna be a PS6 game

  88. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    So Part 3 is canceled?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Could you fricking imagine? There would be threads on here for days, I would actually go outside for once in my life to avoid all the meltdowns lmao!

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Hopefully because they'll be a chance Part 1 and 2 will be heavily discounted.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Delusional if you think ff7r3 will cost any lower than $70 with how much development costs to produce it

  89. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Surely 7R is too important for their reputation to just abort 7R3, r-right?
    I say release a large DLC sized finale and sell that in a bundle with updated versions of 7R1-2. That should work even if they're broke

  90. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    > triple A exclusives (except foamstars)
    > in 2024
    What were SE thinking?

  91. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw FF16 was both the better game and sold better

    For a first attempt at a multitude of things they did a decent enough job, if FF17 had 16's combat stylings but with proper party management and some other shenanigans it would absolutely go from decent up to great. Both games learned the lesson to put their shit out on PC + consoles at the same time I think though, at least from the current CEO's attitude on exclusives.

    I think the true reason why FF7 Reimagining part 2 Electric boogaloo failing is because it's neither a remake to satisfy remake people and it's not reimagining enough to satisfy that group either. That and lying to customers about a Remake 1 in the first place likely turned off literal millions of people. I cannot think of something dumber than having a trilogy of games, lying about what the first game being a remake, then expecting the sequels that come after it to do well. Bamboozling people in the third of a trilogy sure, but bamboozling in the first? Absolute moron idea.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >FF17 had 16's combat stylings but with proper party management and some other shenanigans it would absolutely go from decent up to great.
      As a first attempt at an action game, it was a lot better than expected. No real dev experience asside from the leaders is a big deal.

      >FF7 Reimagining
      It should not be underrated how insane of a proposition it is to try and sell 3 high budget games in a series to an audience. The fact that it's even selling 2 mil on PS5 is shocking to me. No matter how good the actual game is, from a business perspective it had everything running against it.

  92. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Complete and utter PC takeover. Consoles are fricking done.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      next stop Switch 2 baby.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        And then an emulator for it comes out a week later

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >And then an emulator for it comes out a week later
          hahah you must be desperate then

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            I stopped by Nintendo games after the joycons drift fiasco and refuse to give them another dime afterwards, i emulated all the switch games I wanted and will emulate every switch 2 game I want

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >I stopped by Nintendo games after the joycons drift fiasco and refuse to give them another dime afterwards,
              my good brother in gaming. is your saving grace shitting on nintendo, the company the destroyed emulation and has sold 150 million Switches?

              if Square truly goes with nintendo and epic, i truly hope you don't unalive yourself. because i can see it coming. your desperation is crazy.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Deal so lucrative they're now running away full speed. The success must be chasing them out!

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >they're now running away full speed.
                >anon finds out what timed exclusive means
                yes that's literally the deal. why you mad?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >anon finds out what timed exclusive means
                It means losing money and failing profits.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >failing profits.
                entire HD segment. they are firing europe. literally good news. try more.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >my good brother in gaming
                >unalive yourself
                Why are all nintendogays redditors?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I know this is a square thread but I’m not really that huge of a fan of them so I can wait on not playing them. I just refuse to give money to Nintendo in general

  93. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick does Sony not only kill their own Japanese studios, but also kill Japanese studios they don’t own. FF7R-3 is going to again be a forced exclusive and likely flop even harder than Rebirth.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Squeenix did this to themselves. FF16 wouldn't sell much on PC either. It's a mid DmC ripoff. And splitting a remake into 3 fricking parts was dumb as hell. And it's not like they could run on Switch either.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Squeenix did this to themselves. FF16
        they did this to themselves because they spend money on shit no one wants and expect their mainline games to cash them out. who is getting fired? europe is. who sold games? ff xvi and viir did.

        How the frick does Sony not only kill their own Japanese studios, but also kill Japanese studios they don’t own. FF7R-3 is going to again be a forced exclusive and likely flop even harder than Rebirth.

        >FF7R-3 is going to again be a forced exclusive and likely flop even harder than Rebirth.
        >forced exclusive
        Making a lucrative deal and repeating it again and again for armchair analyst kun here is forced.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >a lucrative deal
          That results in a 70% profit loss? Yeah, what a great business move.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Those are explicitly from cancelations of other games. As you know, rebirth didn't get canceled.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              How much did it sell again?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Go ahead and post it

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                How many copies, anon? Answer me.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >lucrative deal
          >fricking bleeding money and saying exclusivity was a mistake

  94. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >make JRPGs exclusive to Fortnitestation 5
    >beat one of them into shape so it attracts a "wider audience" who doesn't actually like or play JRPGs
    >nobody buys them
    woooooooow

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      They were trying to get that God of War Sony audience but those people barely even know what FF is.

  95. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >how did this even happened?
    ethnics department

  96. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    They really overestimated people's interest in splitting a 7 remake into three games.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      not really. they sold several millions on the PS4. the problem is that Square simped for the PS5 harder than Sony themselves. Sony made their cash cow God of War 2 for the PS4 as well and sold well. Square for some fricking reason abandoned those millions on the PS4 and made the sequel only for the PS5. and im saying this because Remake was good, but it was just a taste. meanwhile Rebirth is INSANE. shitposting aside one of the best Jrpgs ever.

      this must hurt like hell especially for the japanese because if you look at famitsu sales, PS4 games like Persona 3R. sell well to this very day.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Rebirth would not work on PS4 tbh. It was never going to sell well, it won't sell well on PC either. Nobody has powerful enough systems.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Rebirth would not work on PS4 tbh.
          as it is sure but Square problem i don't care. people want japanese games out of them. them losing profits is great news. fire europe. fire everyone that's not making japanese oriented jrpgs

          God of War Ragnarok released when there were like 25M or 30M PS5s though. There are 60M now. It's probably just that people don't care anymore.

          sure but its imperative for a jrpg tp support japan. mind you i mentioned Persona 3. there's a reason the franchise is becoming so big.

          I swear SE could announce they're 100 billion in debt and all their employees are jumping from the windows, and there would still be one sad homosexual here with a zack body pillow saying "all the doomers are wrong, SE are in a great position right now"

          >all their employees are jumping from the windows,
          you mean European employees. and yes Square is moronic.

          >Tomb Raider didn't meet our sales expectations
          >Mankind Divided didn't meet our sales expectations
          >10 years later after selling off its western divisions
          >FF7R2 and FF16 didn't meet our sales expectations

          10 fricking years for them to say the same things about their own division's golden goose.

          i absolutely despise Square spending money from successful core franchises on shit.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >it won't sell well on PC either. Nobody has powerful enough systems.
          it won't sell because it's a shit sequel to a shit game

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            You homosexuals gobbled 7R up and helped make it a top 5 best selling FF. Square isn't posting sales because rebirth still has 5 million waiting for them the second it comes to pc like 7R did.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Did 7R legit sell 5mil on PC? I've never heard that but would actually be pretty happy if that's the case. I don't want Square to die, or succumb to some buyout.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                What buyout could possibly happen when multiple platforms fight each other for the chance to pay them for timed exclusive? Then when that time is up it goes to pc and sells millions on top of that.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                We've seen what happens when Sony and Microsoft buy companies -- mismanagement, utter moronation, and games just no longer releasing.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, that guy is full of bullshit. FF7R was a PS4 exclusive and sold 5 million copies in its first couple of months on PS4 alone. It wasn't until a year later that it got a PS5 version, and a year and a half later for the PC version.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It was free for psplus subscribers 10 month after release, that's how they inflated the digital sales number

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Probably not, it's at around 7 million sales from the last announcement on it. PS4 was 3.5 right away so...

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No. It's sitting at around 7m total and at least 5 of those were on PS4.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >You homosexuals gobbled 7R up
              Only absolute morons did and they regret it.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Cope

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        God of War Ragnarok released when there were like 25M or 30M PS5s though. There are 60M now. It's probably just that people don't care anymore.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous
        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          american children are fricking hideous

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      People made the mistake of buying remake and learned their lesson. Rebirth flopped hard because no one was fooled the second time around and Reunion or whatever its going to be called is going to sink like a rock, they would be stupid to not cancel it as soon as possible.

  97. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    not enough fanservice

  98. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >FF7 sold 18.5 million copies
    >SE decides not to capitalize on nostalgia
    >SE instead decides to appeal to the non-existent audience of nu-FF
    >FF7R sells an undisclosed number of copies
    Can someone explain the logic behind SE's actions? Are they simply moronic?
    They could have done a true remake, raked in the dosh, and THEN made a weird time janny game. But no... they gave up all that money for nothing.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >ff7r conveniently missing in between 13 and 8

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      14.4*

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Are they simply moronic?
      Yes. This documentary exposed this very well. Compound this with what they did with KH, FFXV, and FF7R etc. Truly a fricking moronic company.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >split up FF7R into 3 parts
      >don't even make a remake but a sequel
      >get the exclusivity deal from Sony and Epic
      >try to repeat this process 3 times

      Square Enix is just greedy and wanted to milk this for all its worth. They thought that just because FF7 is their fans' beloved FF that they would all just happily purchase the game in spite of all this bullshit.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        people would have bought FF7R if it wasn't shit

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Square Enix is just greedy
        no. the did the right thing. they KNEW they couldn't pull off the entire remake in one go.

        also when you have a team that can work with a certain engine it's easier for them to make sequels. that's why they did so many FF XIIIs

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >they KNEW they couldn't pull off the entire remake in one go.

          That's because they're greedy, don't know how to manage and lazy. Excuses after excuses. They're so incompetent that they had to redo development all over again because they switched to Unreal Engine. Asking for them to remake the entire game is obviously beyond their scope.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's worth noting that they were very vague about how many parts it would be split into at first. "As many as it takes to tell the story" or something like that. They only settled in 3 when the first part didn't exactly set the world on fire. If it had moved 10m+ units in the first year you can guarantee they would have stretched it out to at least 4 or 5 parts.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          The pace is already way too slow. How could they even stretch it to five games?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Are they simply moronic?
      Yes.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Lightning Returns sales
      Disgraceful.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Returns sales
        >Disgraceful.
        im unironically a huge XIII day one appreciator.
        i never played it.

  99. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Tomb Raider didn't meet our sales expectations
    >Mankind Divided didn't meet our sales expectations
    >10 years later after selling off its western divisions
    >FF7R2 and FF16 didn't meet our sales expectations

    10 fricking years for them to say the same things about their own division's golden goose.

  100. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    When people heard FF& was getting a remake, they expected an actual remake, not this convoluted multi-universe sequel in disguise bullshit, which is all style with little substance. Notice how all the excitment over this project has been about how everyone's favorite moments from the og game are going to be animated, & not any of the new stuff? This whole thing reminds me of what happened with Higurashi.

  101. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I swear SE could announce they're 100 billion in debt and all their employees are jumping from the windows, and there would still be one sad homosexual here with a zack body pillow saying "all the doomers are wrong, SE are in a great position right now"

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The funny thing is that Capcom is doing great right now by focusing on games people want. Good RE4R despite what people on here say, Monster Hunter, Dragon's Dogma 2, etc. Instead SE split a remakre into 3 fricking games and tried to ape Western games with FF16.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >capcom is doing great by focusing on games hispanics want
        Fixed.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >on games hispanics want
          >Resident Evil 4 Remake has sold over 7 million copies
          lol hispanics dont buy games cabron

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >hispanic cope
            Grim.

  102. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ff is dead

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      They need to reboot it by name. I say it unitonically
      Kids and teenagers aren't buying the 17th entry in a saga. No they will not read or care that they're standalone.
      Reboot and make a big market stink of it.

      FINAL FANTASY

      that's it. Now you'll get some new kiddies on board. Sorry but these games don't sell because people grew up. I loved FF as a kid, I'm a classic VIIlet 32 year old millenial, then next big one was X. I am quite literally their audience that helped prop Square up. And I havent bought a single FF game since XIII, my friends are the same, there is only a small group of my demographic that have still kept loyal to this series.
      I might get some seethe but it's the truth. If they had release a VII remake during thr PS3 era when they made that tech demo they would have made absolute bank. But no, they waited too long, they thought it was an Eternal Cashcow, and they were wrong

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        None of the ff entries are continuations of the other and all are different from the other. What exactly is there to reboot about a series that reinvents itself with each mainline release?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          I literally said that. How can you miss the point so much? The point is new fans aren't gonna join because the whole thing has the APPEARANCE of complexity. They need to "reboot" it as a marketing strategy. You can call it moronic if you like, I agree sure, that's how it is though. Their longterm fanbse is aging and dropping. And new demographics dont care for what they're currently offering nor their system.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            That's cool but restarting from ff1 would be a massive confusing clusterfrick, you would INCREASE the appearance of complexity. I'm sorry anon, I'm sure you worked really hard for your cereal box marketing degree

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              They'll probably go up to Final Fantasy XX and then soft reboot the naming after that. well that's probably what they have scribbled down on a piece of paper. Square aren't making it to 20 and if they did itd be what... 70 years if we adjust over time for vidya development inflation? Seeing as games apparently need more and more time every year lol.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          I think he just means the title and the way they present it. Continuing on with titles like "Final Fantasy 17" might be off putting since it suggests it comes loaded with lore from 16 prior games you might need to know. Square doesn't exactly market these games in a way that it's clear for those unfamiliar with the series. And I'd argue Rebirth and this whole trilogy concept was very poorly marketed too.

  103. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    put it on steam so I can install nude mods and I'll buy it simple as

  104. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Square loves deals.
    >Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Epic Store exclusive incoming.
    >Followed by series debut on Nintendo Switch 2.
    Steam gays prepare to get cucked into oblivion.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Switch 4 is when nintendo will have a system strong enough to display rebirths visuals

  105. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Rebirth is GOTY tbh, it's gonna be funny watching you all seethe at TGA time kek

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      well literally nothing else is coming out this year so yeah I guess it is the game of the year lol

  106. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    They could be printing money with a Final Fantasy Tactics Switch but they are too dumb to see it. I'd love to play the multi-player missions with my bros, or to face their squads. Just imagine the dimes.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >tactics
      >print money

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        They are an excel with isometric view and pixel art. Easy to make and even easier to sell if you push the multi-player. And you could shill it to the FFXIV fellas given that they share a setting (Ivalice)

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          XIV has 1.5 million subs at peak anon, it doesn't matter.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          As much as I love Tactics and XIV, trying to sell this on Switch to XIVgays is the same as trying to sell XVI on PS5. You need to get it on PC.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            If they took that multiplatform push seriously enough, it could happen.

  107. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Square losing money and the same time selling FF copies is unironically great.
    Square enix getting the message that they can't keep making shit no one wants and waiting for their eternal cash cow FF VII to bail them out is good.
    On the other hand is FF VIIR a great success on literally all fronts? Yes.
    Is FF VIIR-3 gearing up to be the best thing since fried rice? Also yes.

  108. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If only they actually remade FF7 instead of this bait and switch they pulled

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >If only they actually remade FF7
      balding millenial homie stfu.

  109. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    The timegap between the release of FFXV was the end of the IP success, now it's another RPG that had great success in the past like many others, FFXVI and FF7R have good gameplay but the story is dogshit, if people want to play great gameplay and non-important story they choose to play any Capcom game instead.

  110. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >capcom-troons seething this hard
    kek, none of your slop will ever have cultural relevance like FF.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >FF
      >cultural relevance
      lmao what year is this? Fricking Persona replaced your homosexual series as the normalgay JRPG.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Persona is for pedos bro

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          So is Final homosexualry dude

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            "N-no u"
            Persona is built from the ground up to play as a child in school dating other children bro what ff is like that

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >ff7-9 look like kids . games for pedophiles
              >almost every other FF . characters look like teenagers

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Swing and a miss my coping pedo anon

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                i don't play either franchise anymore
                >pedo
                good projection i bet your favorite FF is 9

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Clouds 21 bro this is not the point you want to hang your dunce cap on

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          final fantasy hasn't been relevant for over a decade, strange to try arguing this, go ask zoomers what they play

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            They don't play either of then they play fortnite because they just added Billie eilish

  111. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    mid fantasy should go the dynasty warriors route. se fanboys want to consume, they don't care about quality.

  112. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    where are the shills trying to damage control? you Black folk were insufferable on release, please come back and stand your ground so we can mock you again

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, rebirth was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and I stand by that. You gonna pull up some homosexual excel spreadsheets to say I'm wrong?

  113. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >frick up one of the easiest things ever to succeed at
    These fricking guys are so hilarious, imagine being at the helm of this shit.

  114. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It only took us 20 years or so but they are finally changing business models again...

  115. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >sell game in parts
    >surprise it flops
    call me when its 25€ for the full game . and i will buy it

  116. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because people who do "remakes" or "Remasters" Try to constantly reinvent the wheel.

    Wanna know how to make a remaster everyone will love? Just release the exact same fricking game, with minorly better graphics and it will be praised that it, change nothing else. thats all.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Re2make says hello

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The sad part is that square knows this, it's just with Final Fantasy that they constantly frick up.

  117. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >PS5 exculsive
    Once again. The reason was this mostly.
    We're 4 goddamn years into this console generation and it still feels like it's "just starting" , and frankly I still don't feel the need for one
    Zoomers don't even play on console anymore unless its Nintendo

  118. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    That's the problem, they aren't.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ff16 and rebirth are head and shoulders above most modern AAA releases that perform better, so obviously quality is not the issue here

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's not a high bar you're basically saying it's okay to consume trash because you're not consuming shit.
        In reality both 16 and Rebirth are just straight up awful games that appeal to absolutely no one.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >above most modern AAA releases
          lmao this moron actually thinks this means anything

          You otaku NEET freaks need to use your brain once in a while, the majority if this thread is saying rebirth and ff16 failed because they're bad games, I demonstrated that quality factors in very little when it comes to success of modern releases so why is it underperforming? Come on I know you haven't been in school or thought about anythint in over a decade but give it a try moronkuns I believe in you!

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            All AAA slop sucks shit, homosexual. Deal with it.

            >Verification not required.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Another drooling moron enters the fray, welcom! Be careful not to swallow too many flies, mouthbreather

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Keep seething, Black person.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Keep eating shit, homosexual

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the AAAslop enthusiast though, that's your job.

                >Verification not required.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You spend your all your time crying about them and circlejerking every day instead of hitting up https://www.indeed.com/ lol I would not take any advice from (you)

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >You spend your all your time
                Nice one, Poojeet.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I could be the darkest dalit ever, You're still unemployed getting owned by someone you perceive as a shit eating Indian LOL

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                souce?

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >I demonstrated that quality factors in very little when it comes to success of modern releases so why is it underperforming?
            You demonstrated?
            You just said
            >FF better than everything else!
            And left it at that

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Okay smart guy name me a AAA game that is obviously superior to rebirth
              >inb4 uhhhh I don't play AAA
              Then your opinion is worth shit here bud

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Rebirth if it was better.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                So it's already at the top of the pack, thank you for agreeing with me

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                And what exactly would be the point in that when you're already convinced that it's better than anything else?
                Anyway, you don't even know why you like Rebirth since you're doing everything your power to avoid talking to it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                ESL-bro...

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Bros trying to distract from the fact that he fricking can't LOL. It's okay anon I accept your piss stained concession

                Nice samegayging but you're still avoiding talking about rebirth.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                And what exactly would be the point in that when you're already convinced that it's better than anything else?
                Anyway, you don't even know why you like Rebirth since you're doing everything your power to avoid talking to it.

                >since you're doing everything your power to avoid talking to it.
                bro...

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I thought I was avoiding talking to it, ranjeet. Which is it? Take a cow shit snack break and get back to me

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly it doesn't make a difference at the end of the day, you're still going to be angry that it flopped whether or not you finally figure out why you like it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I dont care which way the wind blows on it as long as I get the third and final ff7r, my condition for victory is considerably lower than yours which necessitates everyone be as miserable as you.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >my condition for victory is considerably lower than yours which necessitates everyone be as miserable as you.
                Anon, your condition for victory is making the brand successful, if not you wouldn't be here shilling it until you go red.
                My condition for victory is... Nothing. It's not a competion for me, I'm just here to discuss it's failure, your tears are essentially collateral damage.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one throwing a shitfit that you can't name a modern AAA release that is superior to it, I couldn't care less if it was the biggest failure in gaming history I still had a lot of fun with it

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have to name a game that's better, in fact I never claimed a AAA game was better.
                >I couldn't care less if it was the biggest failure in gaming history I still had a lot of fun with it
                And yet here you are throwing a tantrum purely because someone called your favorite game bad.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're mistaken, you were just crying because I couldn't talk to rebirth bro lol that is either very brown or very hysterical behavior, likely both!

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Right...
                Ignoring the fact that you used 'to' as a synonym for 'about'. You're still not really making a point for yourself and as much as you want to sound smug it's just coming off as anger since the only thing driving this behaviour FF7R being called bad.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Anyway, you don't even know why you like Rebirth since you're doing everything your power to avoid talking to it.
                That was you big dog

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                English isn't your first language is it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, it appears it isn't your first language ESLkun

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but that means he wants you to stop avoiding it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Stop avoiding what? Proving to brown shit eaters that I really did enjoy a game I enjoyed? Hard pass if you homosexuals won't cashapp me 200 bucks rn

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                The whole point is that you won't say why you like it, most likely because you haven't played the game.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                The more you freaks cry about not knowing why I like it the less I want to share, dig? $300 bucks now.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're the only one kicking up a fuss because everyone called it shit.
                The rest of us are just trying to see your perspective but you clearly don't know anything about rebirth.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No dumb ass I said that the game isn't flopping because it's superior to every other modern AAA release in terms of quality, meaning quality is not the main determinant factor of a game succeeding or flopping. I asked someone to name a AAA game that is superior to rebirth and only one of you dipshits understood the assignment. $400.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >No dumb ass I said that the game isn't flopping because it's superior to every other modern AAA release in terms of quality
                Which you omly said because we said it was bad.
                >meaning quality is not the main determinant factor of a game succeeding or flopping.
                Which is the problem here, you don't know how to identify "good" in a game so you can't make that claim.
                >. I asked someone to name a AAA game that is superior to rebirth and only one of you dipshits understood the assignment.
                Anon, it's you who's trying to prove it's good, naming a AAA game doesn't help anyone.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Bros trying to distract from the fact that he fricking can't LOL. It's okay anon I accept your piss stained concession

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                its a cash grab that was released within a few years after FF7 was already remastered by the same company. Its a pointless game in the eyes of many consumers outside of a niche fanbase of FF-addicted plebs who can't read books with better stories because of.... i dont even know, i had ADD and i read more books than 99% of the planet does.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Made up self diagnosed ADD tard tries not to bring it up unprompted in conversation challenge level impossible

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Elden Ring.
                Easy.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I accept that answer however fromsoft is a very rare exception to modern AAA rot trend

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically, tlou just because it doesn't drag as much as rebirth.
                And that's saying something.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >above most modern AAA releases
        lmao this moron actually thinks this means anything

  119. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    No they weren't.

  120. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    there's not enough PS5 fans to care about final fantasy anymore. young gamers also don't care about final fantasy.

  121. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    it's getting harder and harder to pretend every post I don't like is coming from one person

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      You could always just accept you're wrong.

  122. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    This is what you get for disobeying coomers.
    You may hate us, but you WILL go out of business without us.

  123. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna guess a few reasons.

    1. They didn't just remake the entirety of FF7 in one go and instead decided to greedily split it into parts.
    2. The changes with the remake likely turned away many people/fans who would have been willing to check the game out. There's a lot of reasons for this, whether its story, gameplay, padded content, length, or the fact they'd have to pay 70 bucks three times.
    3. FF16 went by and had some mild success, but it's not the success Square Enix wanted. The game was unable to reach the huge audience they were trying to pander to with the way the game looked and its "serious" story.
    5. Both games are PS5 exclusive, which wouldn't be a bad thing if this was back in the day on PS2. A majority of PS5 owners don't give a single fricking shit about Final Fantasy. It's a Call of Duty, Sports, and Fortnite machine for many, many people.

    Basically, they thought PS5 owners REALLY give a shit about Final Fantasy. It's a simple matter of the company being out of touch.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      You skipped point 4.

  124. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >how did this even happened?
    They stopped making games for JRPG fans.

  125. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Rebirth is one of the best games of all time tbh I'm not too worried about it. XVI's demo was too bad for me to bother with the full game on the other hand.
    SE will fire a bunch of people and carry on, similar to most corps right now. Ironically, if "your" devs are not doing this now they are just delaying for later. It's the standard cycle in the industry and it's not gonna change.

  126. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Dead series.

  127. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Exclusivity deals for console nobody has or wants
    >HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >for console nobody has or wants
      on par with the PS4

  128. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think the villain deserved to win in FF16.

  129. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Pay full price for a single game split into multiple parts.

  130. 5 days ago
    DoctorGreen

    >the games were good
    bait

  131. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why was Rebirth so bad?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Indian outsourcing

  132. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I have never actually enjoyed any Square Enix games but it's truly surreal if morbid watching an old vidya giant just embarrassingly collapse in a few years

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >years
      Decades, the last true FF was FFX
      FF series died along with Square, frick Square Enix

  133. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >SE thread
    >fanfiction sales charts
    kek, no idea why these guys are so schizo

  134. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    No, they really weren't. You are comparing them to current gen games, that's why you think they are good.

  135. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Foamstars failed because its marketing would leave one to believe it's a troony (in color and character design) splatoon knockoff
    16 failed because it tried to be FF meets game of thrones, and still has stupid shit like QTEs
    7RE failed because open-world-wise, it tried so hard to be like generic-every-open-world AAA game (succeeded at that I suppose), and was bogged down with too much filler, stupid shit like QTEs, and le surprises, when it should've been a (I can't stress this enough) SLIGHTLY added on 1:1
    I'll assume the recent "quality over quantity" news means less blackrock influence and panjeet development, which is good, but I suspect 7R3 will still be full blown moronic for the sake of sensationalism

  136. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >frick how did this even happened? the games were good

  137. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Playstation is paying the price of not getting the PS5 into the hands of gamers. After 2 years of being desperate to get one for retail I just put the money into the best PC I could build. I also resent the company for promoting sin and sodomy so I'm not buying their next console if there is one.

  138. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Have they considered releasing on more platforms for more sales? Seems like a successful business would want all of the customers.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Square Enix has the weirdest pseudo first party relationship with Sony that never made sense to me

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Let's be honest, even if it went to PC and Xbox it would still be a flop just because it's a mediocre game.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Probably would, because they'd do a staggered release and only put it out on Epic at first. By the time it would come out on Steam, 80% of the audience will have forgotten about it or lost interest.

  139. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Square-Enix is the master of releasing games their wants dont want

    Valkyrie Profile 3? Nah frick you have Elysium
    FF7 Remake? Nah have this thinly veiled sequel
    FF7 Rebirth? Nah let's backtrack but keep both options open
    FFXVI? Oh you want a JRPG with a "mature" story? Nah frick you lets just release a action game with a shounen plot

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >their fans dont want

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Valkyrie Profile 3? Nah frick you have Elysium
      Seriously. Elysium was so mid.

  140. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Why yes I made a metacrtic account just to give Rebirth a 0/10, how can you tell?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Not brown enough

  141. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Can FF16 shills finally admit their game flopped and their lord and savior Yoshi P is a hack? I doubt it even sold through all 3 million "shipped" copies.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I liked it but you can continue having a chip on your shoulder and letting yoship be your master since that's your kink

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't say my kink is shitting down your throat, but if that's what you're into...

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          No your kink is being a b***h, readingcomprehensionlet

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            moron

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Who is the moron here? I don't come to you shrieking and crying when you enjoy a game I don't like

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Instead you came into a thread talking about the low sales of a game you like, got mad and started screeching at everyone.
                If you really enjoyed the game you wouldn't be here.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Where did I get mad and screech, where did I indicate anywhere here that I was upset that you don't enjoy a game I like

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Have you read your posts?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Gonna have to be more specific than that anon, I'm not being gaslit by burnout failures on 4chinz

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >If you really enjoyed the game you wouldn't be here.
                Are you implying I should be playing them right now? I already beat them, they've both been out for quite a while. I jut like shitposting here for fun because you "true ff fans" are fun to frick with

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm saying that you're insecure and you're just here looking for validation of your purchase.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You can choose to believe that, it would be too earth shattering for someone on this website to disagree with you, I understand brother.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                He says through his tears.
                You may as well just accept that you bought a bad game at this point after all you can't even sing it's praises.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah bro I put in 100 hrs into rebirth and 90 hrs into xvi because I really secretly hated them. Do you listen to yourself ever or do you type in whatever shit falls out of or head before thinking about it?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you can scream arbitrary hours as much as you like but it won't mean anything. Hell I doubt you'd even post proof of ownership given how hard you're trying to maintain the facade of it being good without saying why.
                It's like you're afraid of someone going against your opinion.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's no important, I enjoyed them and you're in no position to question my enjoyment or demand anything of me, that is unless your broke unemployed ass can front me $500

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not* lol plz be pt for to understanding my esl languaging barriers

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's a conversation about the quality of the game anon, you need to talk about the game if you think it's good. So far you haven't said a peep about it.
                >and you're in no position to question my enjoyment
                Sure I am, because you haven't said why you enjoy it. You've just screamed "IT'S GOOD BECAUSE I SAID SO" to every anon here.

                Not* lol plz be pt for to understanding my esl languaging barriers

                At least you admit you're a Hispanic, explains why you're devoted to this game too.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It's a conversation about the quality of the game
                In relation to other AAA games. None but one have been able to name a superior game. My point is that rebirth isn't flopping because it's lower quality to its peers and I'm not even arguing that it's a good game though by my estimations, it is. I'm saying that its flopping is due to factors unrelated to quality

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >In relation to other AAA games
                Scrolling up, you're the only one who brought up other AAA games so the conversation was solely about Rebirth.
                That means that no one is obligated to name a better AAA game or game in general because it's irrelevant to the conversation.
                >My point is that rebirth isn't flopping because it's lower quality to its peers
                No one said anything about it being lower quality compared to anything, just that it's a bad game. Then you started sperging out.
                >I'm saying that its flopping is due to factors unrelated to quality
                Here's the thing you don't get, it's games that sell the system, bad games don't tend to sell systems and if rebirth flopped what do you think that means?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah bro you cracked the code, a jrpg sequel that you need to play the first game to understand probably wouldn't be a hit system seller what do ya know

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                So are you saying that the staggering drop in sales is because people played the first one and thought it was shit?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's okay. Time heals all wounds.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                D- bantz, you should be trying harder as this is all your life amounts to

  142. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    un sweatys maybe square should just make a proper 3D reboot of chrono trigger until they can come up with an updated traditional FF game that has hot babes, wizards and knights

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      With toriyama dead the likelihood that we will ever have a competent CT remake which was already a tall order becomes even more unlikely

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, Toriyama did the art he didn't develop the game. If you just get Asano on it it'll be fine.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >sovl-less anon thinks the artist doesn't matter
          Grim.
          Toriyama is worth 100,000 Asanos.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            What is it with people in this thread being hopelessly illiterate?

            Sure if he's good at emulating the art style, still don't have high hopes that they won't frick up a CT remake

            You say that but look at how fantastic live a live turned out. Unless square scrapped all of Tori's concept art, which I realise is an actual possibility given their incompetence, it would come out fine.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Anon, Toriyama did the art he didn't develop the game. If you just get Asano on it it'll be fine.
              >sovl-less anon tries to hide his sovl-lessness after laying it bare already
              Very Grim.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Sure if he's good at emulating the art style, still don't have high hopes that they won't frick up a CT remake

  143. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Exclusive shit.
    I'll wait till it's on PC and has a discount.

  144. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Square-Enix will only focus on AAA projects
    Well there goes the FF:T update at least we got Tactics Ogre
    Grim...

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      You need to expand your understanding of how bad things can get, anon. Remember FF7 was 4 homies in a row, once upon a time. They can do it to FFT too.

  145. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did it flop
    Literally cause they locked both to Playstation. Majority of the people I know personally decided to skip the games cause they weren't on PC and I can assume a lot more other people did the same. It's time for these companies to face it and realize console exclusively is a dying breed.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >majority of the people anon knows are playing asshomosexuals and cod
      Yup, exclusives need to die kek

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        I guess? Is it weird that some of my coworkers aren't as plugged into gaming as I am and have a decked out or moderately decent pc?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Anon when FF7 Remake got ported to Steam it sold EVEN LESS THAN ON PS5. FF7 is just a dead brand at this point. Everyone finally realized it's just more compilation slop and stopped caring.

  146. 5 days ago
    Anonymous
  147. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the games were good
    keep telling yourself that, pajeet

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Did they really put in a qte for fricking looking at a rock?

  148. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Be honest, if I showed you this picture before the first Remake game came out and told you it was a real screenshot from the 2nd game would you believe me?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah probably, sequel was always going to trend towards open world that's just how the plot of ff7 plays out. Also falls flat because rebirth exceeds remake in quality in pretty much every area

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Oh ok so you totally expected
        >WORLD INTEL
        >Expedition Intel 5: Mako Pipeline Lifespring
        >COMPLETED
        >12 pips out of 20
        >Lifespring Data
        >2 pips (connected) 1 pip and 3 empty ones
        >130 coins
        >Lifespring Analysis complete.
        >Intel has been relayed to chadley.
        >5 party EXP gained.
        >Party Level: 2
        did you?
        Well, make some predictions for part 3 then, what's it going to be?
        Fortnite? Illuminate me since you're so prescient.

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