ff16 is a bigger disaster than the original launch of ff14.
>higher development cost amortization and advertising costs
imagine having to put that in your earnings call. YoshiP must be sweating buckets
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/news/pdf/24q2slides.pdf
The Day Before will sell more than both combined and you will either kneel or KYS
is that the ass game?
Yup.
Barry can’t cope with the fact that The Day Before is the superior game
>Five million FF units shifted last quarter
have a nice day, Mochihomosexual.
Damn Pixel Remasters did great!
XVI sales completely stagnated didnt it?
Yeah, being PS5 exclusive doesn't help but it looks like it had the same amount of staying power as FF7R.
Problem is SE has shitton of projects in development so the operating cost is too big for them to handle.
It fell off a cliff a week after release
I'm not kidding over 95% of FF16 sales were in its first week
Xbox tranny cope.
sony isn't japanese anymore. if you suck their dick youre literally a faggoy
>mfw Yoshida and Maehiro's dogshit blasphemous game kills the company
They are definitely making FF17 together. *screams in dilation and reality denial*
No doubt CBU3 is making FF17, Square didn't just create a AAA team just to absorb them to the MMO team.
With Yoshi-p saying he won't work on another mainline title, and I doubt Maherio took the criticism of the story he built over 5 years lightly, then I'm guessing it is Takai as producer and Ishikawa as director/writer.
I had to google who takai and ishihara are, and yeah they're just some random literal who, heck, one of them only experience in gaming was to write some scenario for some mmo, lol, no chance in hell lmao
Of course they will get another blank check to make something unpalatable, because Yoshida is going to vouch for them and say that "incorporated the criticisms from FFXVI going forward". Square Enix never learns, after all.
Ishikawa was pretty much the lead on Shadowbringers and Endwalker, even wrote the job class for Dark Knight (the best one). She, as is common with Japanese women, knows how to write a good story with a great ending. Some people criticize her for letting her fujoshi side out a bit much, but I'll take that for another "god is bad".
Takai is a senior dude at Square who knows how to slap people around to get them to work. All the shitty ideas like action combat and eikon fights came from Yoshi-p.
yoshitpiss already said cbu3 and he isnt making ff17 or ff18 and that he wants to do a non ff project besides ff14 shit next
What do you get when you allow Snoy to keep your video game hostage behind their shit console?
Did they even get any money from that?
Pretty sure only covered part of the development cost.
Square is a whore who would accept peanuts. They took deals from Nintendo, Epic, and Sony, so I doubt their asking price is high.
this. i want to play the game. i am literally unable to purchase it as i do not want to buy a 600 dollar paperweight to play 720p 30fps or whatever dogshit performance it has. release the game on steam and it will sell a ton
Anon...
You can read the earnings report right?
Can you? The operating income has tanked for the 2nd fiscal quarter in a row, where it tanked because of FF16 dev and advertising costs not being able to be offset by the 3 million it sold and the revenue from that, so FF16 did not profit in Q1 and it did not profit in Q2 either
But it did as pointed out by that anon
Dev and advertising costs is not only for FF16.
It includes multiple titles
Learn to read, mind broken homosexual.
Sources are saying investors are calling for Yoshida's head and Yawnfail has been cancelled...
Back to your thread, Zelinkfag
>net sales up before of ff16
nigga read.
He won't
He knows that operating profit declined because of forspoken, babylons fall and other flops.
Are retards really still blaming Babylon's Fall for every Square loss, a year and a half after its release? LMAO
why do FFags blame every single square enix game.i remember it was triangle strategy’s fault and before that it was shadow of the tomb raider.
the only real failure you can blame are the marvel games.
>Retard doesn't know what net sales and operating income are
The netsales are up for the quarter compared to the same quarter previous year you retard, not up for FF16 in particular
the operating income is DOWN because of ff16 dev and advertising costs and ff16 not making any profit
Even considering that OI is down YoY the jump on OI is definitely the highest not to mention that the bulk of the revenue in HD Games is literally XVI and some of the PR most of the games listed in the HD Games section aren't out and aren't counted in this report. It's far from XIV 1.0 it's not even close, but it's not going to suddenly make them break 24 billion yen in one after such a steep drop in Q1. Overall meh quarter for them but seeing as they aren't changing projections they still see the XVI 7R2 combo as making this a very profitable year revenue wise but we'll see how it shakes out in the income section. It's clear they weren't lying about all XVI sales being profit post June this jump in OI quarter to quarter would be impossible otherwise.
But it shows FFXVI hasn't made any profit
The dev and advertising costs is for FF16 in particular which is what SE explicitly stated tanked the operating income in Q1
Bazzy....
Net sales year over year for HD games are up by ~50 percent and the earnings report clearly states that this is due to FFXVI sales.
You are clearly retarded if you still think FFXVI is a flop, Barry.
It's completely insane how a single autist has been shitting up the board non-stop for 10 years and nothing can be done about it.
jannies ban him but barry keeps buying vpns to pretend there are people who agree with him
A toast! To the death of CBU3!
It's over kiseki fag...
>XVI crashes SE
Haha...
>can't read
kiseki fags will always never cease to amaze me
>he chose the path of schizophrenic cope
Heehee...
Cloive roastfield was right about being the end of final fantasy
>ff16 sold 6 million copies
isnt that good?
I thought it was 20 million copies... in reality it still only 3 million... shipped, not sold, and has completely stagnated since then
It still hasn't even sold through 3 million to customers lmao
>so mad that they couldn't defeat ff16 that they end up making thread to make their meme into a reality
lmao.
>moved more than 5mil units since release date
huh?
You are trying to spin it as a tortanic but you know it's just a mediocre period for them that won't even kill them.
nigga who are you trying to fool? LMAO
That's what SE says not me nigga
>That's what SE says
Jesus man, you're suffering from severe schizophrenia.
Can you show us where SE ever said that XVI has sold 5 million copies?
SE hasn't even updated anything for FF16 sales since its first week
On the otherhand in the first financial report for the first quarter since after FF7R and FFXV released both of them got a sales update mentioned in the financial report
FF16 got nothing and it still says operating income down due to dev costs
XV-chads
I kneel
based
yoshi-p's 18 month plan.... it's not working... s-surely the live action ff16 stage play in japan will save ff16... the country where ff16 sold even less than ff2...
>shipments
How many did it actually sell? The game was in the bargain bin selling for $15 one month after release.
and all it took was 7 years of XV being in the bargain bin!
Yeah. 10 Million sales after the price dropped to 5 bucks a piece. And literally giving it away for free on Playstation
Are these 6 million copies here in this thread with us right?
>major stumble
Twitter normies know about the /gif/ incident and are using coded language to btfo Barry and Flopspoken
Kek
Ahh that's why he's not here, he's busy defending forspoken on twitter lmfao
>/gif/ incident
What now?
he was watching tranny porn and noticed a guy that he thought looked like yoship and he thought he could use it as ammo but everyone just made fun of him for watching tranny porn
HKmoron go back
>YoshiP must be sweating buckets
But it wasn't directed by yoshipo?
Why are we hating Yoship?
is ffxiv doing worse now than it was pre endwalker?
Nah, it's the usual content lull combined with Dragon Quest Online going into maintenance mode.
nah, subcounts are probably higher than they were this time in ShB and even if they weren't, there is way more paypiggies that treat the game as SecondLife to siphon money out of
Nah, definitely less subs but I don't think it's much less than slightly after the start of the wow exodus period which was always going to be temporary in terms of a boost. I do expect DT to not hit the same revenue peak EW did but I think it'll still be overall higher than ShB since revenue wise this is still like the 3 highest earning Q2 for the MMO sector ever and this is with a more negative community sentiment and content drought then same time during ShB id wager.
>barry cant read
ff16 chads we won.
>XVI cultists are literally on suicide watch
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1721801175845212549
oh neat a barry thread
This is a XVI discord trannies seethe over FFXVI flopping thread
>Amortize Flopspoken
>sell less than 10k units
>kill studio
>never recover
Flopspoken kek
Forspoken was amortised in Q4 FY 2023 and it didn't tank the operating income or SE's stock
FF16 was amortised in Q1 FY 2024 and tanked the operating income and SE's stock
>when they announced Flopspoken flops
>Its okay guys! FFXVI gonna save us!
>when they announced FFXVI flop
>...
Forspoken's flop was already priced in. Zero people had any expectations for it. On the other hand, XVI was supposed to be the savior of Square Enix that would pull them out of their slump, and instead it turned out to be yet another major disappointment and a huge sales flop (relative to its budget and expectations).
>someone went out of their way to change such an insignificant detail
Forspoken 2 is looking grim...
You realize they are just Square Enix, right?
I checked X and Luminous is replaced with Britney Spears fanpage.
Because they are just Square Enix
So Luminous no longer exists?
As their own separate entity no because they are just Square Enix CBU2 now again like when they were BD2 prior to becoming LP
Does BD5 devs no longer exist at SE?
Both those studios are dead
So BD1 devs no longer exist? Does BD3 devs no longer exist? So none of the devs from any of the 11 business divisions at SE are still at SE anymore since the business divisions don't exist?
Just the 2 dead ones you mentioned before that are listed as "defunct" are dead.
So SE's Visual Works CG department no longer exists because SE categorised them as Image Works now?
Are you ESL? I get that Google Translate is probably shit at whatever clicking language you speak, but Luminous Productions is gone.
So Visual Works is gone?
Idk. Idc.
Luminous is dead, deceased, defunct.
Yeah because they merged the team back to Square Enix so they are not operating as "Luminous Productions" anymore as that name is now defunct, they are just Square Enix and the staff are in Creative Business Unit 2 as they are still using Luminous Engine in Creative Business Unit 2
https://cedec.cesa.or.jp/2023/session/detail/s642675c24ff1b
Physically the LP staff that are now labelled under CBU2 are in the same office floor and desks that they had been in when they were Business Division 2 since 2013, they didn't move physically, the "merge" is just on paper.
>Makes a massive flop with Forspoken
>squeenix hires them back anyway
Why
FF16 is a bigger flop
Also the Forspoken staff worked on FF7R too and are their main go to AAA devs
They came into existence, made a single game, lost a bunch of money, lost their name, became a laughing stock, then merged back to Square Enix.
Death would have been preferable tbh.
They already existed as BD2, they then just created an on paper entity where they got to do their own thing without needing to answer to anyone above them and got to make their own AAA new IP, they made that, then SE decided they wanted them back on AAA dev for their existing AAA IP so SE merged them back, and they are back to working on AAA existing SE IP just like they were from 2013 to 2018
They also worked on FF7R and FF16 while doing Forspoken stuff too
soon yoshitpiss studio too
It's square. who cares?
Can you stumble back to the Zelink thread? That was way more entertaining.
Square just doesn't seem to get that Final Fantasy was only ever popular for a brief period in the late 90s and that's it. They act like it's fucking huge. Like it's Japan's Call of Duty or something. It's not. Not even close. And it never will be. Nobody cares about it but a small handful of weebs and even they are mostly sticking with it because of its legacy more than its current worth. Square should just close up shop. They haven't made a good game in decades. Literally decades. The closest they got to being good in the last 20 years was buying out western studios who know how to make a decent game, completely destroying those studios and then selling them after blaming all of Japan's failures on them.
On the contrary, I'd say a lot of people did care about FF from the 80s to the 00s or it wouldn't have that reputation to begin with. The problem is that that popularity has waned
I'm so happy Flopspoken failed and was so widely mocked.
I'm more happy that FFXVI flopped harder than flopspoken despite probably selling like 2x as much but still making $0 profit
Go woke go broke. Pozzed game. Glad it flopped.
>Kusoeni said everything will be profit from now on in previous financials.
>Profit Down
>Retarded fanboys arguing which titles flopped completely ignoring "PROFITS' being still down
The absolute state of nu-kusoeni and its fanboys. You retards deserve every last bit of shit slop that this company shits out. Lol lmao.
It proves FF16 didn't make any profit despite them saying they "intended" to make profit in Q2, lmao
So all those FF16 fags claiming FF16 would be profit Q2 onward are now on complete suicide watch because it still is at $0 profit lol throughout the entirety of Q2
some of them are making up random numbers and then telling others to read the report kek
Pure delusion and for what?
The Yoshitpiss cult don't know what net sales are or what YoY means or what operating income even is, so much so they are still deflecting to literal who games like flopspoken like this fag
The first two aren't contradictions at all. OI is down YoY but that's obviously going to happen when you're Q1 OI is like 2.4 bil yen due to amortization. But going from that to 15.5 bil in Q2 makes it clear that XVI is "all profits" but the question is: is it /enough profits/ which it clearly wasn't to make them increase YoY not to mention the other to sectors being down mobile (blue) being down the third or fourth time YoY being the biggest offender. Their gachas just aren't cutting it. They haven't really had a hit outside EC and it's already seeing a decrease but they might turn it around but I'm doubtful.
You cannot be rational with him, he sees what he wants to see
XVI-kun do you think FFXVI somehow made more revenue in Q2 than it did in Q1?
>blaming gacha
>the biggest category at the company
>pure profits
KEK
Explain to me how they went from 3b to 17b in operating income
>Pure profits
They explicitly said that EC couldn't offset poor performance of other gachas
With what sales do you think XVI is somehow profiting from when it's dead on every sales chart and fell off quick as fuck by end of July/August practically entirely and was already lower than games that weren't even selling that well to begin with
I guarantee you that FF pixel remasters made more profit than FFXVI did
>I guarantee you that FF pixel remasters made more profit than FFXVI did
Pixel Remasters didn't debut on best selling chart so no, sorry, your narrative is dead :/
But you can be mad at other games like Star Ocean that just came out?
Maybe that will kill square enix?
>can't refute reality
>copes with passive-aggression
LMAO
Pixel remasters are 6 separate things so they wouldn't appear as 1 thing on the sales chart, they would appear as 6 separate things, however SE budgeted it as 1 thing as they have a lot of asset reuse between them
FF6 pixel remaster was higher on PS store than FF16 was after FF16 released btw
>I guarantee you that FF pixel remasters made more profit than FFXVI did
Almost certainly. As
said, they're 6 different games but internally treated as one. It came out in the news a few weeks ago that the Pixel Remaster series sold about as well as FF16 and when you take in to consideration the fact that these were relatively cheap to make, 99% released digitally and had a relatively small marketing budget - clearly the Pixel Remasters did far better than FF16.
It shows that Yoshi-P's comments regarding player expectations when defending making an action game over a traditional RPG were absolute bullshit as we all expected
line break
homosexual
No it makes it clear that FF16 hasn't made any profit at all because its sales are fucking dead after launch where it completely fell off every sales chart quick as fuck
>bazztek is still coping over flopspoken imploding
>not the fist post from this IP
kek
this guy here is absolutely malding
Why do XVI shills keep posting shoops of fake convos where you are impersonating mods to seethe over your made up boogeyman?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/esh-arCI56GZyderLCphSA/
Anyone with two brain cells can see FFXVI is literally the lowest selling AAA FF ever, that it hasn't even profited yet and that FY 2024 is doing worse than the FY where they didn't even have any major huge release like a brand new FF
FF16 is only getting DLC because its literal cut content shit that we already knew about from the leak, and they already said months before release a PC version would be happening sometime after release, a game getting a pC version has nothing to do with being succesful or not to begin with anyway so what the fuck does mentioning it getting a PC version even have to do with anything? Forspoken and NEO TWEWY have PC versions too and they aren't successful games
Why didn't they just make a good game instead of third person over the shoulder cinematic action slop?
XIVbros why did we kill Final Fantasy by pretending to like video games.......
Kek wtf is this, Barry?
I love that the geolocation gives it away. What a schizo.
How hasn’t this braindead nagger killed himself, limited years on this earth and he’s spent 10 years of it seething over random games because he likes some other shit game
Did you even bother checking the pic before posting? It says XVI did well
No it doesn't you retard, it says net sales compared to the same quarter last fiscal year are up due to the release of ff16 and ff pixel remaster in this FY, not that FF16 did well, and it sell operating income aka profit is DOWN due to dev costs which is because ff16 did not profit
June 30 2023
>Operating income 3b Yen
September 30 2023
>Operating income 17b Yen
So FF16 wasn't a flop but it wasn't an amazing hit either.
Another Yoshida Mid banger
FF16 was a flop and most of that revenue increase is because of the pixel remasters and backlog of shit
>most of that revenue increase is because of the pixel remasters and backlog of shit
Nigga you are unhinged PR sold 3mil since 2021 fucking 2 years.
it was on mobile you retard, it sold mostly when the console/pc versions released
combined the pixel remaster is 3m so each game sold a few hundred thousand each with ff6 doing the most
they were cheap as fuck to make and sold much more better ratio in relation to its costs than ff16 did ergo made more revenue and profit this quarter than ff16
>NOOO YOU CANT SAY FF16 DID GOOD IN SALES IT WAS ALL THE PIXEL REMASTER
Well yes because ff16 didn't do good in sales at all
fucking atlas fallen sold more than ff16 in august
>The MMO segment (FF MMORPGS + DQ MMORPGS) only contributed less than 20℅ of the revenue
Next time some MMOfag tries to gaslight me MMO genre is not niche and dying, I'll show them this graph
MMORPGfag truly is the Fighting game fag of video games
It's been pointed out to them dozens of times. They are deluded tbh
It's because retarded game journoes keep making retarded articles going "zomg ff14 made a lot of money!!!!!" while completely misrepresenting the charts and the retards just read that shit and think "wow ff14 must be what keeps SE afloat!!!!!", and they regurgitate it so much to themselves they actually believe it
>Singular title makes up nearly 20% of the revenue
>Every single year
>Costs less to run, update, and market
Seems like a massive win to me.
FF14 has 300 devs, costs more to run than any other game, has big expensive CG every 2 years and the xpacs cost AAA budget wise
FF14 money goes back into FF14, it makes very little pocket change for SE
>FF14 money goes back into FF14
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is the state of MMO-junkies tbh. They believe that MMOs are cheap to run, market, and add to. Meanwhile, they believe that gacha (phone games) are incredibly expensive in all of those same fields.
It does, it's just that most of it goes to the new xpacs stuff and the CG trailers, and they get literal AAA levels of marketing, not to the shit content patches over the 2 year gaps
>FF14 has 300 devs
first lie
quit reading
(By this he means FFXI, which is pre-WoW and an actual game)
March of the Black Queen Remake when?
>Post-Endwalker patches flop
>FFXVI flops
>Dawntrail flops
It's really dire for Square Enix.
Don't forget
>burnt away all of what little goodwill they had with RPG players
kek
Square Enid should hire me to direct their next Final Fantasy. I could save them.
How would you save ff anon?
>inb4 make it turnbased shit
Besides that of course
>final fantasy was at its most successful when it was turn based
>we shouldn't go back to turn based because i'm a genuine knuckle dragging neanderthal "action" rpg loving retard
>turn based troon calling anyone else a neanderthal
Dead genre kek
>dead genre
>FFXVI is the worst selling final fantasy release yet
>turn based devs make action game
>flop
Many such cases.
It's why the famous saying, "dead genre kek" started.
>an action rpg bombed
>that means the turn based genre is dead
"pretending" to be retarded huh
Old 3d Final fantasy turn based combat is utter fucking thrash with animations that last a a whole minute
At least games like persona 5 and honkai feels fast paced and fun despite being turn based
It's more that the MMO hack devs trying to make an action game is why FF16 flopped
FFXV is action RPG and its combat devs literally worked on FF7 and FF8 and FF10 and FF10-2 combat and it's like the 3rd highest selling FF and the #1 fastest selling FF
>ombat devs literally worked on FF7 and FF8 and FF10 and FF10-2 combat
*it sold high because of heavy marketing, not because the combat was good.
**only a few devs worked on those games, mostly in unimportant roles
***bazztek is off his meds again.
>because of heavy marketing
FF16 had heavy marketting, so did KH3, so did FF7R, so does every FF, yet none of them sold as well as FFXV did at launch, and that isn't an excuse, maybe they should have marketed FF16 and FF7R better
FFXV sold because people liked what they saw and had ample oppurtunity to play it before release through multiple demos, live events and game events and countless official gameplay shown of it in 2016
Takatsugu Nakazawa was one of 4 combat planners on FF7, 1 other combat planner from FF7 also was on XV, the other 2 left SE years before XV even started dev, Nakazawa was the main one and was responsible for the materia system too, he also was on FF8, and FF10 as combat planner, then was combat director on FF10-2, he has the patent for the junction system and sphere grid and dress sphere system, he was then RPG system lead on FFXV where he was in charge of the RPG side of XV's combat, while KH2 staff did the action side of the combat, and then Nakazawa was the director of royal/PC version which got way more praise than the base game did
Yusuke Naora the art director from FF7 and 8 and 10 also was art director on XV
Nomura the character designer on 7 and 8 and 10 also was character designer on XV
Nomura and Nojima who wrote stuff on FF7 also wrote stuff that was used in FFXV even after they left, in fact OG FF7 changed more to final FF7 than Versus story stuff did to XV, and Nomura still works with Ishibashi and Itamuro on his games even after FFXV released so he is on good terms with them despite the changes they made to the story he and Nojima did
>liked what they saw and had ample oppurtunity to play it before release through multiple demos, li
I'm still mad about the Episode Duscae rugpull. Tabata needs to die.
You mean upgrade
FF16 and 7R now thats a downgrade
>yet none of them sold as well as FFXV
*none of these had CG movie, anime prequel series, and spinoff games before launch.
**none of these games were marketed as a FF for first timers
ff7 does
ff5 has an anime
ff7 has multiple anime
ff14 has multiple cg shorts and anime commercial
>spinoffs
any xv spinoff game released after xv released
that is their fault
xv still sold better since launch and long after launch than any ff did and less than half the amount of people who bought xv even saw Kingsglaive or watched the anime
>ff5 has an anime
>ff7 has multiple anime
Not prequel anime that came out before they launched, like I said kek.
>any xv spinoff game released after xv released
incorrect
Justice monsters V, released months before XV.
>more tech awards and va awards
no it didn't lol. Still less than 7remake
>FFXVI had a literal promotion party inside the Tower of London.
Hell FF16 had a commercial during that fucking soccer final that cost millions just for an advertising slot
and it had a live action short film
It was literally just free advertising on youtube you retard, even persona 5 had a prerelease anime
jmv is not a ffxv spinoff, its a minigame you can play in ffxv itself which was also released on phones
yes it did
xv won an award for its AI and more VA awards
>which was also released on phone
So a spinoff released before launch.
>XV won more VA awards
Still less overall awards than 7remake
No because its not a ffxv spinoff
its a fictional game that you can play in ffxv which also has a mobile version
there is nothing ffxv in jmv itself
xv won more va awards and has the ai award so thats more than 7r has
>its a fictional game
So a spinoff
>xv won more va awards and has the ai award so thats more than 7r has
so what you're saying is that it has less overall awards then 7remake does.
>party taking 9 damage
>noct takes 180+
kek what is this baby shit? is there a hard mode that turns that shit off?
>Yusuke Naora the art director from FF7 and 8 and 10 also was art director on XV
And replaced Nomura after he was kicked out. It's important to note that he had so many disagreements with Roberto Ferrari that he left Square Enix while Ferrari in a big surprise joined Nomura on 7R.
Also Nakazawa was outclassed. Ito and Abe are better at improving ATB than he did. You can't expect me to think Crisis Core Type-0 and 10-2 are better battle systems.
You can play 15 with just O button. Even turn based trash requires dpad movement occasionally. Probably why it's one of the lowest rated.
Plus they can't be forgiven for trying to sneak an actual turn based mode into the game after launch.
No you can't, you can literally hold down X or whatever input is and win every single fight in every turn based FF
XV in fact is higher rated average than any FF and also won more awards than any FF and sold better in less time than any FF
>also won more awards than any FF
*less than 7remake.
xv won more because it won more tech awards and va awards
That shit is turn based with somehow less steps.
Are they going to release actual sales numbers or are we just getting this operating cost shit.
This is what happens when you release a game exclusively for the ps5. Playstation owners don't play games other than fortnite, cod, and fifa
If anything, I hope this causes them to completely ignore "western" sensibilities going forwards. Flopspoken was 100% woke comic inspired trash and they got burned and Floppy Fantasy XVI is just GoT inspired trash.
flopspoken is less woke than FF7r
like it's actively anti woke and goes right into negative stereotypes
ff7r is straight up fight even whitey corrupting the planet more than before
I cant wrap my head around anyone playing both games and genuinely believing this. Why bother shitposting with that little of effort. Like its just confusing.
Another round eh ? You retarded abbo cunt.
>The retarded brown asian zoomer is still projecting after it admitted to going to /gif/ and looking up tranny porn
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/yGD-FK5cxPgZei6T0TQchw/
Unholy flop trinity
Xenoblade 3 was a succes
>he didn't see Nintendo's newly released report
Ohnonononoahhahaa
I saw it, cope more Eric
naggerman should be there Instead of Zestiria
Where does the series even go from here...? New mainline games clearly arent working anymore. Is it just going to be MMOs from now on?
Yoship is an hack can only copy other ideas without even understanding what make those ideas work. He tried to ripoff game of thrones with the most basic shit plot and had no idea of what to do with it after the prologue.
The G.O.T shit ends after garuda head sent to titan
>xvi-fag can't cope with the flop, starts crying about turn-based
Pure KINO
>However operating income fell YoY due to higher developement cost amortization and advertising costs
>Dying screams of AAA games in the distance
how lovely
And there we go, the smoking gun. Well snoys, it's official-you dont play or like games enough to buy them. As a result, you'll never get exclusive games again.
I think Maehiro and Takai are equally as retarded and out of touch as Yoshida but only one of them is constantly getting shat on. The story, characters and direction of this game is fucking horrendous.
Jesus Christ already nearly 3:1 post to IP, nobody gives a shit OP
Cope Larry, you lost.
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1967243508?t=06h19m18s
game is so bad that not even a paid shill they specifically asked to promote the game on stage with them is shitting on it months later
>Dump all the rpg shit
FFXVI has no rpg shit though, that's one of the main problems.
I think unironically he meant the MMO shit XVI is padded to no end with.
Not even Shill Up recommends XVI. Straight up teared it apart in his review. Prolly contributed hugely to the lukewarm reception it got. Also this lol
They both ate up remake slop so I’m not exactly taking their word as gospel here. I’ll play it on pc and form my own opinion.
I get the implication that you don't like 7R and as someone that played both, I can confidently say that playing XVI will make you have a nice day in minecraft from how disappointing it is.
I’ve been through time jannies. As long as there’s jump cancels and actual defensive options that doesn’t feel like shit, I’ll live.
>Forspoken is a 100 million dollar flop and shuts down luminous productions.
>Barry has been doing damage control ever since and keeps blaming FF16 for the money lost due to Forspoken massively flopping.
nagger is legitimately trying to even gaslight people despite the image in the OP saying FF16 did great and square confirming multiple times that FF16 sold well within their expectations.
>despite the image in the OP saying FF16 did great
Please explain your reasoning and how you came to that conclusion, this is gonna be good.
ff16 cost over $200m and didn't make any profit at all in 5 months
ff16 tanked the operating income and stock not forspoken you retard
>square enix shitting and pissing itself
>square drones deflect to nintendo
lol
lmao even
Why do you guys hate FF16 so much? I thought it was pretty good, even if for this one they decided to convey the story through voice comms.
>xvi-fag has to try to drag AC into it
LOL
ok you know what you BOTH are autistic as shit for not getting the joke about AC6 being the real FF16.
>the joke about AC6 being the real FF16
That's not even a clever joke as those games have literally zero things in common.
well yeah AC6 isn't a garbage game for starters
Why...are you even in this thread? Are you some falseflagger trying to make AC fans look retarded?
I've been in every thread monkey. Within your walls too, whispering the story in AC6 is more Final Fantasy than XVI itself.
Stop using ac6 for your flamewars, tendie
I dont know if youve noticed but a majority of these post are samefagged. Literally one autist is responsible for constantly spamming FF16 and Yoshida threads. Any where outside of his typical spam posts people generally regard FF16 as a good title
Yoshitpiss shills have obnoxiously shilled this garbage for years while acting like saviors only for ff16 to sell worse than any FF ever and tank SEs stock and be a terrible game
For you homosexuals everything is shill
You haters have been spamming this game more than their fans
You are unironically the biggest shills, it's been 6 months and you are still spamming like 5 threads every day
Did you know that the word "tranny" and its variations are the most spammed words on Ganker?
Errm, does that mean Ganker is the biggest trans supporter on internet?
If keeping the existence of trannies on the forefront of people's minds is tantamount to support, then yes.
I see, ff16 is truly the tranny of vidya, carry on then.
Letting a game die is the worst thing that can happen to it. By constantly crying about a game's existence, you are keeping it alive and have a greater chance of keeping it in the scope of the internet's interest until the next piece of content for it.
You're basically reverse psychology shilling it.
Bro there’s like 3 “femboy” threads up at any given time, yes
>Errrm
have a nice day fucking tranny
The bikini schizo (also barry) was found to be a tranny
Fun fact the ones always spamming the word tranime never do it in xenoblade snd fire emblem threads
Why would people who hate tranime be in tranime threads
bro barry literally went to trawl through tranny porn so he could post a guy in the porn who he thought looked like yoshi p and then he posted it in a thread on a blue board as if it was some "HAHAHAH YOSHITPISS OWNED"
he's mentally ill
kek it sure didn't affect sales in the slightest as no one gives a flying fuck about buying ff16 lmao
Nobody even knew who “yoshitpiss” even fucking was before you started making daily seethe threads
It will be funny if mario rpg remake bacomes the most selling square game in 2023
I don't think Square had any hand in the development of the remake-
>CBU3 dickriders present this as a big win
>net HD sales increase is thanks to Nintendo games and backlog sales, no one's buying FF16
Yeah nintendies will give money at the first cheap remake, square enix wins
>4 hours
Impressive cope eric
Way to prove you are a tendie
>not denying it's eric
see you in two days
Verification not required.
Want me to show you my pc games, tendie?
>Barrynagger mentally dominated
damn, must be a day ending in y
Based FF16fags keeping the tendie mod busy
>xvi-fag has to try to drag genshin into it
KEK
And in a genshin thread tendies were defending ff16
Backstabbers sluts
probably the same poster
He already started the damage control for FF9R
>ff16 is a bigger disaster than the original launch of ff14.
FF16's high sales couldn't counterbalane Forspoken bombing so hard the studio got shut down, Barry
There is no article out there where SE said that XVI bombed.
Yet they literally called Flopspoken's sales "disappointing"
>There is no article out there where SE said that XVI bombed.
That's because they are doing their hardest pretending that shitpile did good in relative terms.
>A big 100 million dollar failure like forspoken got called a dissapointing flop immediately and lead to their president stepping down and a AAA studio getting shelved.
>square enix said FF16 met within expectations several times in multiple different reports
>YOU DONT GET IT! ITS A CONSPIRACY THEYRE HIDING IT! THEYRE LYING
4 mil announcement any second sis
Anon don't bully him or he might do us the favor and kill himself.
God I wish
Both Flopspoken and XVI were disappointments
Barry has always been a coping fag just telling himself and others sweet little lies.
He unironically believes that XV was Square's greatest success, yet rather than continue to "milk this grand success", they just unceremoniously allowed it to die.
He also believes XIV is the thing pulling Square down and killing the company, yet it's getting its 5th expansion next year and a graphical update to prepare it for the next 10 years ahead.
His shit's all whack and he will insist that he's right. No arguing with someone who's that deliberately obtuse and braindead.
You realize xv got 3 years of post launch support right? no other single player ff got that to their game itself
they ended its support because key staff left SE 2 years after release and SE didn't wanna do it without them anymore so they moved on
ff14 makes fuck all and is just a minimum baseline revenue stream
>graphics update
>still looks like a ps2 game
>You realize xv got 3 years of post launch support right?
yes to fix it because it was a mangled mess both technically and narratively
>ff14 makes fuck all and is just a minimum baseline revenue stream
then why is it getting expansion after expansion
if xv was a cash cow, they'd keep milking it. if xiv cost them money, they'd shut it down or at least quit producing expansions. these are the unfortunate and painful facts you can't dance around
loser
Then why did it keep selling and getting additional dlc 2 years after release purely from fan demand?
ff14 is a fucking live service game
it had better keep getting content because thats its entire business model
post launch support is not the business model of a single player game
xv literally got a 2nd fucking mobile game last year
>additional dlc 2 years after release
to fix it*
>ff14 is a fucking live service game
yes, and your assertion is that it only costs square money. so then it would also track that it would stop getting expansions
dumbfuck
but you can't actually handle the self-evident truth
loser
Releasing parallel sidestory DLC isn't there to fix anything, they are parallel sidestories and they have higher fan reception than anything in FF16 or FF14
FF14 is a live service game, it's business model is to be an ongoing service, not a one and done single player game like XV was made to be you stupid fucking retard
FF14 makes only the BARE fucking minimum to get by
source?
XIV is the most profitable mainline FF game, source is square themselves
cope
rumao
facts do not care about your feelings barry
You're literally a braindead monkey, Barry.
Read with me here:
If Final Fantasy XIV didn't make any money and was only costing them more or scraping by on the bare minimum, it wouldn't get new expansions.
If XV was a humongous cash cow, it'd get milked into a desiccated husk, regardless of what type of game it is.
But that isn't reality. The reality is that XV is dead and Square has 0 interest in it, while XIV is getting a new expansion in 2024 that comes with a graphical update that is meant to prepare it for the next 10 years ahead.
Anything other than that is just cope by you. Facts don't care about your feelings.
Huh? "Post launch support" isn't a phrase with the same meaning as "sudden unexpected cancellation due to poor financial and critical performance".
You're thinking of the original ff14
xv non canon alternate timeline bonus 3rd year dlc was canned because it was a bonus non canon alternate timeline bonus 3rd year dlc and because it hadnt even started dev yet and because core xv staff left SE 2 year after release so SE didn't wanna do it without them
SE literally said xv exceeded expectations and the dlc gad high margins you retard
if it's non canon does that mean Noctis canonically died a virgin lol
No because Noct fucked girls in high school and he banged Luna when they were kids and gentiana tought him stuff and he banged iris etc
SE said ff16 didn't profit
that means they expected ff16 wouldn't profit
that doesn't mean it did well you retard
also matsuda was being phased out from months before he actually left
don't forget barry keeps claiming the cost of XVI is higher and higher a few weeks ago he was claiming it cost $100 million like flopspoken, today hes claiming it cost $200 million
It's awful. XVI tanked Square. It cost 100 million to create and only sold 3M copies. Really, the fact that YoshiP didn't get killed on the spot for making a game that costs 300 million and only sold 1M copies is insane. How did Square let him get away with making a game that costs 2 billion and only sold 50k copies???
Sources say yoshi P did kill himself on the spot when he heard his game which cost 500 million to make only sold 1k copies.
XVI did cost more than Forspoken,
the fact that FF16 sold 3m and didn't profit from any of it means it cost more than $150m at minimum
The fact it's not even profitable at $150m MINIMUM is embarrassing
>XVI COST 10000 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!!! my source? I made it up
Can't be that embarrassing compared to getting your DLC cancelled
a fucking book
>game has a literal non-ending
>ending is cancelled and has to be released as a book
the absolute state of XVcucks
Barry-san is intelligent enough to understand the concept of a gaiden story, as well as to appreciate the simple but effective Christ allegory XV presented.
has that even ever happened to any other major game before
It certainly hasn't happened to any other Final Fantasy title, so there's a convincing argument that it's the most unsuccessful title in the series
Is this literally why this autism spans these shit threads, he’s actually trying to say forspoken didn’t flop?
I still cannot figure out who greenlit flopspoken as a concept, it just sounds fucking gay.
ff16 didn't profit from its own dev or advertising costs you retard
FF fandom is weird as hell. They always so desparately want FF version they don't like to "tank the company" and will try to convince themselves it's happening
I'm not sure there's a game community as weirdly obsessed with specific titles in the franchise "bombing" whether it actually is or not. Been happening for well over a decade
>FF fandom is weird as hell
it's to 99% one guy who is obsessed with a random few things and gets ultra autistic about them, to the point that he shitposts and cries about anything that he sees as a threat to them / that people like more than the things he likes.
He sees the following as "threats" to FFXV and malds about, in no particular order:
DMC
KH
FF in particular outside of XV, especially XVI and XIV, but sometimes also VIIR
Nier, sometimes
etc.
On Ganker he's mostly known as Barry, but he's also the guy who is, for example, obsessed with zelink, I believe.
He's also active on /a/ as a prolific shitposter and general annoyance and known as "Jeremy".
There he's obsessed with Boku no Hero and will cry and seethe about Black Clover and just battle shonen in general. (we know this because the idiot got baited by people using Black Clover images in posts and started posting the exact same shit he posts in /a/, including pictures with unchanged filenames, etc).
the xvi discord cultists have arrived
you literally raid every platform you can to shit blood about games you don't like bazzy what are you talking about
Salesfags are not ffags, they are shitposters
Most of us are just happy FF16 is doing badly. simply because the game is pozzed as fuck.
Hopefully SE will learn from this failure.
Vast majority of gamers are rightoids, we don't tolerate lgbtqiack
>no blacks
>straight white male
>traditional couple
>1(one) gay dude who’s based anyway cause being gay isn’t his personality like commiefornia would lead you to believe
>eurogamer: 6/10 no diversity
You don’t remember when journos were on the teams ass cause yoshida didn’t give them the answer they wanted?
I remember this
Nta but they barely advertised it
And that looks more like fujobait than anything, its like comparing Lara Croft with Aloy
There is no bait, they literally kissed. Dion was their official gay representation and their goodbye for any more sales
Of course they didn't advertise it because heterosexual men find gays repulsive as fuck.
>fujobait
more like homo tranny pandering
the fact remains the game is full of homosexuals and trannies
I doubt western audience tall about this. Lgbt is always interracial, or drag kids or lesbians while I have seen japanese artists drawing them, mostly married fujos
Same
Also journalists punished it for clive x jill and no blacks too
It's amazing how this '5 second scene' ruined xvi's sales and reputation.
Instead of being remembered as a good game, ff16 will forever be known as LGBT game.
Abe Shinzo is rolling in his grave.
>literal who website
Kek nobody but eastern fujos cared about that zoomed out npc kiss.
Several big outlets were mad at “lack of diversity” in FF16, however.
Why make him gay then?
All it does is disgust and annoy 95% of the playerbase (well since it's PS5 and FF let's say more like 90%)
>1(one) gay dude who’s based anyway cause being gay isn’t his personality like commiefornia would lead you to believe
if they just casually had him diddle kids and never made a big deal out of it would you think that was good too? I mean as a homosexual it's implied he already does that but you know what I mean.
What is this feigned outrage? You masturbate to trannies and fantasize about Japanese men having sex with you
Fags and trannies are equally disgusting tho
Why aren’t you in Spider-Man threads, a game with far more sales and exposure. Oh I get it, you’re just a butthurt sjw mad about no naggers. Since there’s gay naggers in spider man that’s fine
Are you lost?
Being a homosexual is not a personality
you need to realize that your mental illness is not a personality
You didn’t play the game. Describe dion and his role in the story right now.
>Why make him gay then?
Because nip devs think homosexuals existed in medieval Europe, unlike blacks.
Also because his entire character is about being unwanted by his tyrannical daddy but wanting his attention anyway. Ergo, he’s a homosexual.
It's like claiming that bestiality has always existed in Europe just because there are tons of Greek pottery depicting bestiality.
Come to think of it, bestiality, pedophilia, homosexuality, and other mentally ill fetishes are actually the same thing. They're all just degenerate fetishes for the mentally ills.
which begs the question why did they make him gay? they could always make him a dog fucker or a child fucker or something, it would have the same impact on the story
The most popular FF has a gay orgy and crossdressing. Nips have always been pretty openly gay
There's a term for it, it's called skinship and it has nothing to do with gay orgies. If the game was American it would be a different matter.
>crossdressing
A plot device to showcase the MC being a simp.
>implying
You know that bullying gay people into suicide in Japan is common, right?
Japan's suicide rate has been falling for the past 20 years, while it continues to rise in the US despite all the "acceptance" being plastered everywhere
>You know that bullying gay people into suicide in Japan is common, right?
Sounds like a just society.
Comedic gayness isn't the same as homosexualry endorsement.
>gays raping kids is funny
nice try anon but these homosexuals will just hand wave all the homoshit in 7 away because it reminds them of their childhood
Reminder haters are just looking for excuses to hare any ff
LMAO
>gayme of thrones
Kek fitting title for this woke fest
Yet they punished the game because the gay character actually had a personality
Yoshida most certainly cared to put that stuff in and carefully tip toe around revealing it in pre-release info.
Dude, nobody gives a shit.
We live in the era of bear sex, lesbian protagonists and whatnot. A side homosexual with 2 seconds of kissing while the camera man runs away in this “GoT inspired game” is literally bloody nothing. It’s too censored to even be considered period accurate kek.
I don't even disagree with the Western journos. The game is most certainly 'safe woke'.
That’s the thing, it’s not “safe woke”, it’s “nipponese GoT”.
This
People like dion and astarion
People dont like the gay couple in spiderman 2
That's because they actually cared to make them characters
Dion is like Jun or Sylvando, I don't mind them
It’s one guy
Well in this case ff16 is literally tanking the company and brand
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1699359775
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1699345929
Nobody on the planet is clicking that shit bro, much less reading it
>Yoshida believers can rest assured
>Yoshida is not the kind of person who takes responsibility and quits, because
Yoshida is the type of person who clings to Square Enix in order to continue to suck the sweet juice of Square Enix even if the company goes bankrupt.
Our response?
>barry is still trying to use twitch viewers and steamcharts(numbers of players still trend upwards) to cope
FF17 with CBU3 and Natsuko Ishikawa writing and directing the game will save Final Fantasy.
Unironically this could be great if the production isn't a shitshow. She has a better understanding of story and emotional beats than someone like Maehiro. I just hope that the gameplay is more fun, whether it's action or turnbased. If action, they need to have a bigger variety of enemies that are more aggressive and push the player. I'd hope that it's a more modest offering visually in return for meatier gameplay/story.
wait did this dumb ass nigga barry start another thread after he got btfo and exposed as a legit troglodyte as well as uber schizo with a billion aliases again and again last thread?
what's your major malfunction, dude?
Don't you have some black clover fags in /a/ to annoy with your idiocy?
I only care about the 7 remake series. I dont care about anything else square enix owns as they sold deus ex and tomb raider.
Barry won, bigly
Maybe they shouldn't have released an European game with only whites in it on the Dilation naggerstation.
Could be worse though, they could have released it on the Pajeetsofts Hispanicbox.
FFXVI is so painfully mediocre that it's actually kinda bad. Everything XVI does is better in another game
looks like their mobile market is dying.
ITT:slop that flopped and bombed.
The Day Before won.
Final Fantasy XV, XVI, XIV all flopped and bombed
Genshit Simpact flopped and bombed
TOTK/BOTW AKA Zelda flopped and bombed
Everything kneels to The Day Before.
The Day Before is gonna be the best selling game of 2023 and GOTY while Barry/Bazztek slits his fucking throat while malding about Flopspoken bombing and not getting GOTY
Kneel you fucking peasants
The Day Before is gonna be so popular that every will quit slop XIV and slop WoW and play the best game of 2023 instead.
Nobody cares about your shitty slop AAA garbage from Square Enix you fucking homosexuals.
Seriously consider suicide if you are playing this filth.
The Day Before should be the only game you should be playing.
I'm just laughing that nincel Pikmin fags were legitimately claiming their shitty game was outselling an FF when it's now revealed it's still made less than 16 in months than 16 did in a week
He also laughed at HFR only for HFR to do better than Pikmin 4
I don't know about worldwide, but in Japan Pikmin 4 has outsold FFXVI by two times.
Pikmin 4 giga flopped outside of Japan and barely outsold 3, basically only because of Japan
Stop spread bullshit Eric. Pikmin 4 sold almost 3 million in 2 months that it's more than the third one on entire lifetime and it will continue selling.
Also the ratio Japan/world is 52%/48%.
tl;dr cope seethe and dilate ff16 is a flop
Pikmin is for manchildren and kids with down syndrome
>manchildren and kids with down syndrome
But those are also FF16's target audience.
So it's perfect for you
You are literally the only one making threads about this game
>admits that ff16 is a time flop no longer discussed anywhere
own goal lmao
I didnt even buy ff16, I'm just saying you homosexual cant stop spamming threads about this game yet mods remove actual videogame threads
…exactly? Nobody gives a fuck so why do you make daily threads and samefag them 24/7.
Precisely because Ganker is vivid and fuming when someone shits on FF16. You would get zero replies elsewhere, aside from X where local -oons also like to hang out.
You do get zero replies which is why your threads are always like 5:1 ip to post nobody gives a fuck that yoshida won’t fuck you
>when your 18 month sales plane isn't working
>worst writing and ending in franchises' history
>shills try to downplay these factors and blame low PS5 install base or something
lol
>worst writing and ending
>when fucking terra and necron exists
Terra is foreshadowed and not even a problem. Necron suffers greatly from not being Hades seemingly as planned but for the most part is just a final boss encounter that changes nothing in the narrative. Bad writing and terrible writing is all of FF8.
My problem isn’t that terra exists, it’s that they rush everything that happens late disc 3 that even the “you’re not alone” thing doesn’t hit like it should.
What FF game has better writing than FF16?
FF15
Most of them.
You would not believe just how many hours, days, weeks, months I have spent dedicated to defending/hyping this game up every chance I can get on Ganker.
If you heard how much time I've spent keeping the reception of this game positive here you would think I was joking, seriously.
And the funny part is I don't even think it's a 10/10 masterpiece or anything. I know it was a little disappointing. But again, the reasons I do what I do are so unbelievably sad to say out loud you would think I was making them up.
The bottom line is I refuse to let the doomers and haters win, even if there are only one or two of them. And if I have to sacrifice almost every minute of free time I have to do it, then that's fine by me.
>claims to hate trannies
>engages in the same behavior, pretending to be something you aren’t
Your criticism needed to be shut down. It's a reflex, sorry. This is my whole life.
Abo can’t read
When will become a normal opinion to point out FF16 failed?
Trust the (18 month) plan
it's been 5 months and still $0 profit... yoshitpiss-sama... it's not working... t-the japan only live action stage play will surely save ff16...
that's what you get for chasing trends square-enix
It shows right there that profits increased.
Profits increasing after a decrease means a company is about to die. Babies first dead cat bounce?
SE has been like that for literal decades.
Thanks for letting us know you have no idea what you're talking about.
Dead. Cat. Bounce.
No it doesnt, it shows profit increased, right at the time FFXVI launched.
You just trying to spin it some way that fits your retarded narrative because you are mentally ill loser who waste its time shtting bricks in an anonynous baatket weaving forum.
it literally shows ff16 didn't make any profit
fucking pixel remaster and the hd games backlog carried hd games revenue because ff16 died by july
>proofs: my stinky anus and confirmation bias because my entire identity is bound up in this gay war
proof is every fucking sales chart you retard
fucking atlas fallen was above ff16 in august on the EU psn monthly sales chart and remnant 2 which only sold 200k on ps5 was above ff16 too in both the US and EU
proofs where?
still don't see them. your headcanon isnt proof 🙂
Yes or no do you think anyone is opening these images
Too bad none of that stopped Forspoken from flopping so hard the studio got unceremoniously killed.
proof is muh uk sales on the days that start with S in the spring and summer four score and seven weeks ago when the sun was out for adult males with cerebral palsy
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE UK SALES FROM randomnaggergames.com
Bro I need to post these obscure nobody charts because... uhm.. IT'S SO OBVIOUS. I don't use any source anyone actually knows or cares about because uhm.. ah... uhh...
Is said the PSN charts you retard, which Sony publishes every month and is the actual digital sales rank for every month
Not only that but in Japan FF16 only sold 418k which is the lowest of any mainline FF
In the US and EU FF16 sold less than Remnant 2 in July and August and FF16 didn't even chart after that
FF16 didn't even chart in EU PSN chart after August, fucking Atlas Fallen did better in EU than FF16 did in August
On NPD FF16 fell off hard as fuck and did less than fucking Dead Island 2 which only sold 2m total
In the EU charts and UK FF16 fell off entirely quick as fuck
FF16 is not even gonna be top 10 on NPD YTD rank by the end of the year
Blah blah blah random nagger 69 gaming said that blah blah blah
Nobody reads you dumb schizo babble you stupid fucking nagger
It literally defines HD games as “ffxvi”
because it released in 1H you retard
it literally says operating income is still down
Maybe dont keep it exclusive to one badly selling console because yopu choose to not put on PC? That would probably help. Sales well deserved.
The reality is as much of a fag as Yoshi Piss is, I have to thank him on so many levels. Thank you for making FF16 a timed PS5 exclusive so it didn't release on PC day one when I might've bought it. Thank you for misunderstanding the Western gaming market and being 5 years too late for a Games of Thrones knockoff and making it piss easy in a post FromSoftware difficulty dick rider world. Thank you for cannibalizing the dev team of your successful MMO and starving it of content while you made this kusoge so subscription players left en masse. Thank you for nearly bankrupting SquareEnix and now all we need is Tetsuya Nomura to take us into the end zone of complete SquareEnix redemption arc with Kino Hearts 4 and FF7 Remake Part 2. Just...thank you, YoshiPiss.
They probably had a couple of black characters too.
Until they realized they’re making a game about slaves and it’s be weird as shit kek.
I'll just keep playing my old ATB FF's. I've learned my lesson and will no longer buy your action garbage. When will Square learn it's lesson?
>xpacs are supposed to be guaranteed money
>they're not anymore
>remakes of the best selling FF games are supposed to be guaranteed money
>they're not anymore
How does a company fuck it up THIS badly?
Nothing is guaranteed money, what the fuck are you talking about.
If you want to make good money you need a good marketing roadmap to reach the right audience.
>SquareEnix flagship Final Fantasy 16 is released in the same year as the avalanche of turn based RPGs games of 2023
>Despite selling out to appeal to Western trends, it won't even be nominated in the top 5 GOTY categories
Oh I am laughing.
Fuck YoPiss and Snoy! After what they did to one of their more well liked niche series, they deserve all the bad shit they get.
Is xvi the first FF that didn't go viral? It barely has any fan contents.
xv and viir at least had a lot of waifu, especially viir, so the games got tons of fan contents and in turn kept selling even though they were disappointing.
>panders to homosexuals and trannies
>flops
many such cases
>posts basket weaving websites
16 did go viral and some of the most shared fanart was literally porn of Clive plapping Jill.
lol
You now remember Square Enix bought a special twitter icon for FF16, hoping it would trend and go viral, only for it to failed miserably as Nintendo casually released a Direct that massively overshadowed FF16's release day.
Everyone and their mom can get a hashtag icon.
It's not a big deal.
Also I do not care about your console for children and suicidal office workers.
how old is xv and how many platforms did it come out on?
Let me help you,
What? Do you think xvi will suddenly and magically get tons of fanart long after the game's released? LOL
Barry GOD here, we love FF7
HAHAHAHAHA
>What? Do you think xvi will suddenly and magically get tons of fanart long after the game's released?
Yes.
kek, you remind me of that /leftypol/ who thinks the world would magically be peaceful if america disarmed
kek. carry on then
>pixiv
Another dying basket weaving website kek.
Artists moved to Elon's newest victim years ago.
>booru numbers
>d-doesn't count
>pixiv numbers
>d-doesn't count
kek, who said that leftist unable to make a joke stick
Booru is managed by autists for an unspecified period of time and pixiv is literally a dying website because of twitter you colossal homosexual.
>source?
>it came to me in a dream
Source is having eyes, retard.
Years ago people aside from fujoshits and moeshitters used pixiv.
Now people who draw games meant for a wider audience, even Fromfags, just stick to twitter.
Still no source? kek
You do realize that artists post their stuff on twitter first and then dump entire logs on pixiv if they use it at all? Twitter has more art but you can't navigate it because you're an actual retard living in a cave.
still no source?
>7 hundreds of art mined from just one twitter tag for CliveJill
>b-but muh pixiv
Artists don't give a shit about pixiv anymore you stupid abo.
Wow anon, some random folder, you sure showed me.
I'm not making a screenshot compilation of the entire folder for an autist.
Learn to navigate twitter, retard kek.
Fact is, Clive/Jill and Dion/his fag bf combined is already more art on twitter than the entire pixiv number. That's not including tons more varied untagged shit.
no source still?
I literally posted mine.
Pixiv is dead just like your autistic brain.
Yup still no source
You will remain retarded forever.
7 hundreds of art on twitter alone from one pairing tag, not even the FF16 tag.
Learn to count kek.
Source?
Twitter. Learn to navigate the web mong.
so no source? got it
The source is Twitter, retard.
If you can't mine it let alone search it that's on you kek.
It has more art than pixiv for FF16. Pixiv is irrelevant to artists worldwide compared to twitter, mongoloid.
Post them source?
The source is Twitter, mongoloid.
You won't even find the most popular FF16 art on pixiv, because it's irrelevant. It's all on twitter, drawn by nips, asiatics, chinks, murricans and euros alike.
So no source?
I posted it. It's twitter. You're a retarded autist who can't count or navigate the web.
Nobody cares about pixiv, retard. Weibo artists pump out more stuff than morons who still use pixiv.
no source?
Twitter and elementary math. 700 fanarts from just one non fujo pairing tag. With fujoshit and other untagged stuff it's more than the whole pixiv number for FF16. Because people worldwide don't give a shit about pixiv, retard. They post their art on twitter.
Still no source
Twitter, mong.
Yawn, source?
Twitter, retard. Learn to count and browse kek.
Your brain is as dead as this thread.
no source still?
Twitter, mongoloid. You're actually brain damaged kek.
Stupid nagger, thats just the usual cope by fujotrannies
Theyre mad because yaoishits become more and more unpopular
Try speaking English you autistic homosexual.
cope
A shame that bought post and overpriced NYC ad didn't help Forspoken at all kek.
maybe luminous should have spent some of that $100 million on making the game not shit, they might still exist if they did
>everyone in the comments are shitting on flopspoken
kek. imagine shilling for a game so bad that it decimated an entire studio and left over 100 people unemployed..
>ultra mega copium deluxe
yes, when the game finally comes out on pc 😉
>game about a homosexualy boyband gets a ton of art of the gays fucking each other
wow
why are we such a flop...
At least none of the forspoken stuff is AI slop
Remove all the ff16 AI slop
yes
also like 90% of ff16 """""porn""""" is just AI generated slop
so nobody even truly cares
Its like ff tactics and SaGa, its not much fanart bait
Twitter has fanarts but because boomers artists moved there
Bro. Things are so bad with XVI that few people are even bothering to write up wiki entries for XVI on the Final Fantasy wiki. NOBODY gives a shit about this game.
>make a thread about it everyday
>game has a built-in wiki an invalid can easily use
>wahhhhhh look people are not copypasting it online that means no one cares
Actual brain damage
So does XIII, among tons of other games with built-in encyclopedias, and yet, all the entries are complete.
The PlatinumGames commercial failure curse strikes again
Man, Flopspoken and its consequences have really been a disaster for Square Enix.
FF16 tanked SE
The big drop in OI and stock happened in Q1 FY2024 after FF16 released because FF16 didn't profit from its own dev or advertising costs, not when Forspoken released or its financial results were discussed in the FY2023 report
>FF16 tanked SE
that was flopspoken actually
thank luminous for it, which is now dead while cbu3 still exists and is developing new stuff
No it was ff16 that tanked the operating income in Q1 FY 2024
No, that was flopspoken.
Sorry to ruin your day, but we can't ignore the facts.
Flopspoken ACKed so hard it literally killed Luminous Studio with it's frickin' mind.
Now that's embarrassing. Seppuku-worthy.
Flopspoken was from the last fiscal year retardbro haha
You can see in OP the huge growth due to FFXVI, while at the same time seeing the huge drop off due to forspoken.
Are you fucking blind? the op chart doesn't even show forspokens Q
It shows Q1+2 aka 1H aka April to end of september, which is 1H from FY 24, FY 23 and FY 22
Forspoken was Q4 FY 23
FF16 was Q1 FY 24
FF16 tanked the OI
Dead wrong. They explicitly stated last quarter that FFXVI would not reflect until this quarter. You can see the huge growth in the HD games (purple) section. They explicitly cite FFXVI and HD games for the growth
I will not play the action Final Fantasy. I will not take the meds, I will not be Sent, I will not buy YoshiPiss slop, I will never let the anti Christ win.
Just be aware, FF7R fags.
This kind of autism is coming your way next.
Barry has to be FF16's biggest fan and the reason it will continue to take up space in people's heads until the PC and DLC releases organically breathe new life into it.
Thank you, Barry. YoshiP appreciates your service.
TGA is going to be fun as fuck with this autist around.
He unironically made me really curious about the game (pcfag), never saw a game mindbreaking someone so much since elden ring
>never saw a game mindbreaking someone so much since elden ring
ER had its own Barry?
It’s a pretty mid game to make a comparison to another SE game it reminds me of KH3. It’s like a 5% better version of that game since it doesn’t have anything as shit as something like frozen. It also needs a dlc to beef up the difficulty.
It's not just XVI, though. It's just that XVI is his focus now because it's the main FF.
He'll do this same song and dance when 7R2 releases.
He just hates anything that isn't Tabataslop and is completely obsessively vindictive.
Though by throwing a tantrum months after and lashing out like a literal pissbaby, he's only keeping XVI's name alive until its next update, either the PC port or the DLC or both.
>XIV profits down because it's not a new xpac year and the game is developed in a way as to not retain players
>older mobile games losing players and the new games aren't taking off
Seeing live service games decline feels good lads.
>already 3M+ sales
>has yet to be released on PC or any other platform than PS5
>has yet to get its first DLC
Whew.
literally the lowest selling FF and the lowest selling AAA FF
FF1-5 sold more
FF6 sold more on SNES alone
FF7 sold more on PS1 alone
FF8 sold more on PS1 alone
FF9 sold more on PS1 alone
FF10 sold more on PS2 alone
FF10-2 sold more on PS2 alone
FF12 sold more on PS2 alone
FF13 sold more on PS3 alone
FF13-2 sold more on PS3 alone
FF15 sold more on PS4 alone
FF15 Pocket edition demo alone has more than 3x the downloads than FF16 demo did
FF7R sold more on PS4
FF Type-0 sold more on PSP in Japan
FF7CC sold more on PSP
Dissidia FF sold more on PSP in Japan
lightning returns had a higher budget
no it didnt
LR literally only took like 2 years to make and reused a ton of assets and was outsourced a bunch
ff16 took over 8 years to make and is the most expensive ff ever
>and reused a ton of assets and was outsourced a bunch
You know that applies to XVI too, Barrington
Neat. Well it still has a PC port and maybe an XBOX port to go, so we'll see what changes about those numbers. We're already at 3M+ so the sky's the limit.
ff7r only did 500k on pc
ff16 is not doing shit
mfw barry won
XVI is good if you are a hardcore XIV fan but otherwise it's a huge chore. Even if you enjoy the set pieces and the boss fights everything else is just a head scratcher. It should have been just an action tittle from the get go.
So why does it seem that niggas truly only fuck with Nomura directed games seems like he should be in yoshi p place
Imagine how much it'll suck when Mario RPG remake makes way more money than FF16
Yeah I'm sure square enix will suffer
But mario rpg won’t sell because square enix is dead
>tendies spend all day seething at SE
>give them money at the first cheap looking remake
Honkai Star Rail will outsell both
You might think that's some unprecedented humiliation but Lightning Returns getting demolished by Bravely Default with only a couple hundred thousand copies is part of the reason why someone outside of CBU1 was allowed to make a mainline game again in the first place.
Square Enix upper mangaement and "creators" like Yoshida should commit seppuku on national TV.
Whatever you do do NOT post the June 2023 Amazon US best selling chart for video games...
I repeat do NOT... post it...
oh no no no
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
How the fuck does FF16 lose in its LAUNCH MONTH to super mario RPG which just got revealed
It's pretty much guaranteed to outsell it.
Wait a second if you actually read this shit it’s a huge shill for FFXVI
look at the purple section exploding from 29.4 to 43.7
no you dont ge tit thats not because of ffxvi thats because of other games i know because... uhh.. I JUST DO OKAY IT WAS A FLOP
Tendies just want yoshida to make ganes for switch
Wait for ff14 and 16 for switch 2
xv died and nobody cares about it barry
flopspoken killed its studio
you lost
I’ve heard brown people don’t have a good understanding of the passage of time. Because his whole crusade is so retarded. The past is the past. The future and present do not change it.
FFXV came out, and was a shit game. It is a shit game. Even if “rival” games are bad it doesn’t change that fact. Ffxvi could brick your ps5 and send a pack of naggers to your house to rape you and it wouldn’t make ffxv anything other than a shit game
Sadly, he'll stay on this schizophrenic, mindbroken crusade forever. So long as Square puts out new FF games.
And all he's doing is reminding people of XV and how shit it was.
Great job.
is that why ffxv sold over 3x better and has higher fan reception than ff16 and better graphics and writing and music and design and rpg system and animation than ff16?
yes that's why no one cares about ffxv and only thinks about it and laughs at how hard it failed because you keep bringing it up and reminding everyone how hard it failed
Is this why you’re a friendless, sexless aborigine that has dedicated his life to a shit game nobody cares about
>DMC/Bayonettafags don't like the game because it has 20hrs of cutscenes interrupting gameplay in a 30hr game. And gameplay is braindead until you finish it and start over in new game plus anyway.
>HBO/Netflix watchers don't play games and unanimously agree that GoT, from which the game copypasted several character archetypes without transferring what made said characters interesting, went to shit after Season 5.
>Sony movie game fags are turned off by the anime jrpg shlock the game turns into by the final arc.
>Yoshida cult MMOtrannies are either too lazy to get a PS5 for one game, or those who do have to desperately justify their thrash purchase.
>Classic FF fags dislike the game because it inverts the roles and puts the hero in a position of destroying that which the series originally stood up for, that is, the divine transcendental things that endure through the transient worldliness of men, typically represented by the crystals or otherwise divine forces (the lifestream in 7, Aeons/Fayth/Memories of beloved ones in 10, gods and the crystal line in 11). They are substituted in favor of Maehiro going full fedora neckbeard.
And people wonder why XVI sold like shit.
put your trip back on Emetcuck
You know what's truly impressive? That anyone still bothers to have a discussion with Barry at all in 2023. By now, there should be a baseline understanding that he is completely deranged, and to try and elucidate him is like trying to explain a three dimensional universe to someone who is two dimensional
It’s not that impressive dude posts here 24/7 on a tibetan mosaic image board that has high traffic. People will humor him for a thread or two, then move on. But due to his autistic persistence someone else will fill in
On occasion a thread's gotten him so heated that he fucks off to another site for a little bit, some people are probably just trying to use known triggers to anger him
This I can respect. Nothing better than making massive lolcows explode.
He only calms down when he spams his zelink thread
A zelink thread spam stopped when the ff16 sales appeared
I wonder if he’ll attempt to kill tabata, nomura, or yoshitpiss first. You would think the latter two first but these deranged fanboys usually go for their target of worship and lust. There’s some weird homosexual tendency underlying barrys obsession
>There’s some weird homosexual tendency underlying barrys obsession
Well, he does jerk off to trannies, so...
It’s not even “normal” homosexuality though it’s some gay tranny shit. Like how his twitter avatars are usually female
He probably self inserts as Zelda, dude is one loony troon
And he is the one who spams the gays kissing the most
Yeah, it really is a fetish to him.
Yet here you are shilling ff16 and still pretending it didn't tank the operating income despite SE saying it did
flopspoken tanked square so hard they killed luminous
it's so ogre barrybros... it has never been quite this over in the history of over
Look at the OP image and see the “HD games” huge growth. See that the OP image cites “HD games” as “FFXVI”
>FFXVI on the same level as FF Pixel
Whoa so this is the power of FFXVI
if ambiguous profit numbers of games goes down, it's all XVI's fault and proves that XVI was bad.
if ambiguous profit numbers of games goes up, then other games had to carry XVI which proves that XVI was bad.
Simple as.
>see the “HD games” huge growth.
Net sales does not equal profit retardo
>huge increase in sales is bad
Just going to ignore you moving the goalposts too. First purple wasn’t HD games, then ok it was HD games but not ffxvi, then ok it is ffxvi, and now actually purple having huge growth is bas
>huge increase in sales
does not equal an increase in profit, as the pic clearly states and shows.
Will Barry finally kill himself when FF16 wins awards at TGA and Forpsoken doesn't get a single nom? It's a 2023 game.
I dont know if this is a screencap bait post or not but I doubt ff16 will win
Bg3 deserves to win though
FF16 can very easily win best score, performance, story, etc.
Forspoken has 0 chance to even get a nomination. I doubt Geoff even remembers this shit came out this year.
naw killing himself would be an admittance he wasn't right, he'll just pretend the award was stolen
I feel like his is another death stranding case where it got tons of schizo shitposting when it was ps4 only only for people to actually enjoy it for pc even if its not for everyone
FF7R also got tons of shitposting only to find out it was a fun game
let me tell you a secret: just because a game comes to another platform, doesn't mean it people will stop hating on it. You will learn this the hard way.
13 sentinel? still a tranny game
Death Stranding? still considered a garbage game and is also the game that turned Kojima from his cult icon "la creatividad" status to the "has been" hack status
FF7R? has always been loved since the PS4 days
Whoever thought adding literal homosexual shit and a shota to FF should be drug out into the street and shot
anon you're like 30 years too late to complain about either of those "tainting" poor sweet fino fano
Nah, fujobait used to be just bait. have a nice day homosexual. Everyone celebrates your failure.
least generic reply-guy
I'd be willing to buy FF16 but it's on a dogshit game console.
Just bring it to PC already you retarded fucking game company.
>Just bring it to PC already you retarded fucking game company.
they are
Oh, cool.
It really is hilarious to see XVIfags continuing to cope over the repeated losses XVI continues to take.
If you seethe in this condition i cant imagine if itnsold more than 5 millions
It is incredible to me that it is now over 5 years since I have bothered coming into Square threads and you STILL cannot discuss fucking shit because people are talking about namehomosexuals. Everything is Barry or Bazztek or anything other than the actual company and games. What in the fuck is wrong with you people this is unconscionable.
Tendies wont allow discussion of any ff
What’s incredible is how you posted this but the ip count didn’t go up
Guess we are at that stage now, where Barry pretends he doesn’t exist even though he’s been doing this for a decade
t. not smart enough to know when he's in a bait thread posted by a namehomosexual
>Barry makes multiple threads daily derangedly shitting blood all over the board
>fuck off barry
>ALL YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IS BARRY BARRY BARRY
Yoshi-P tempered cultists are incapable of rational thinking. Subhumans, the lot of them.
There is not a single person who thinks about FFXVI more than Barry. Literally every waking hour of his life is consumed by the autistic compulsion to scour the internet for something he can misinterpret or misrepresent or somehow twist to soothe his asshurt and confirm his biases. To the point that normal people 90% of the time have no idea what the fuck he's even rambling about when he talks about some obscure shop chart or twitter account who said a thing.
He is also the only one talking about yoshida
The only moment he stops spamming these threads is either when he is spamming zelink or spamming AI peach threads
Notice the AI threads slower
>pick up IP that is damaged beyond belief from horrible decision after horrible descision, FF will never recover from FFXIII followed by FFXIV 1.0
>seclude yourself in an echochamber where mmofags treat you like a god
>step out of that echochamber
>be surpirsed when no one gives a shit about the IP anymore.
Yoshida should have saw it coming imo.
To be fair ff16 was made by a b-team at square enix
The a-team is working on ff7rebirth
I doubt SE expect anything big from ff16
now THAT's a cope
Its a shame the C-team now has to tardwrangle the Z-team rejects from the defunct luminous
>cried when his friend was sick
>cried when he delayed endwalker by two weeks
>cries while watching his own cutscenes
>cries when people criticize his game online
>cries when he gets a compliment
Why does this man cry so much?
It works, why do you think Blizzard's leader copied him and cried during Blizzcon
He's a tranny enabler who unironically browses reddit. Hence the discord tranny following desperate on denying reality about XVI being a massive, blasphemous flop.
>not a real Final Fantasy
>not a real woman
You literally have sexual fantasies in which you self insert as a tranny being fucked by yoshida and then you post about it
Man it is a relief knowing subhuman waste like you will never reproduce.
FFT and FFXII is better than your favorite FF, Emetcuck
Barry you’ll never have a link to your Zelda, you’ll never be a woman, and nobody will ever fuck you
>the 34-year old failure trying to claim XVI isn't a failure either
Nobody has ever opened one of your images much like nobody has ever attempted to be your friend
barrybros... we lost so hard
our game is only known as a laughing stock that nearly killed square and made them nuke the development studio from orbit
how do we cope........
Barry GOD here we love FF7 Remake and Rebirth
Nomura is honorary XV dev
Based, FF7 chads and XV enjoyers are friends, we love JRPG games
>XV sold 5 million in 1.5 months
>7R sold 5 million in 5 months
meanwhile XVI...
>another 600 posts thread
Damn ff16 really mindbroke some bings
Yeah ff16 is the tranny of video games
>still trying to push this
barrys a snoy though, XV released on playstation years before it got a switch port
Sorry anon, making fun of this trash game's repeated failures is just too much fun.
Just one guy, really. Who is essentially completely deranged.
Barry is preparing himself for the mental breakdown over TGA
Speaking of: DLC/port announcement at TGA?
Port is already announced.
They may be preparing a DLC teaser though because they said they'd show more about the DLC before the end of the year.
Sure, just like he's preparing himself over the imminent announcement that XVI has crossed the five million sales threshold, right?
Would be funny if it did that before even getting a PC and/or XBOX port lmao.
Given that the Q2 was today and that SE desperately needs to shore up confidence in XVI and Yoshida's 18 month sales plane, today would have been the perfect time to announce a sales figure update due to XVI crashing their stocks last time, and yet the mention of updates sales figures is mysteriously absent. Surely it must have sold* 4 million by now, right?
*"sold" includes copies shipped
Why haven't they cancelled the DLC yet? We know if a game performs disastrously, they'll unexpectedly cancel its further DLC. Shouldn't they be doing that here, too?
Because last time they cancelled a DLC (XV's) it also caused their stocks to tank. They can't afford that right now.
Ah yes, XVI is tanking their stocks and is an unmitigated money drain.
But they are not cancelling its formally unannounced (no previews, no nothing except Yoshida saying it's happening) DLC because... UH IT'LL TANK THE STOCKS BRO.
Complete and utter cognitive dissonance.
Why do you keep saying plane you ESL shitskin
Screencapped btw
That's a given. He'll pretend like he never posted about "16 never surpassing 3m" and invent some other shitposting mark for himself.
Zelinkfag/Barry screams yoshida's name when he is fucking his wife (male)
>arguing with the confirmed mentally ill
You guys seem really bored.
sometimes you can trigger barry enough he just starts spamming and ends up getting more of his VPNs rangebanned
eventually the abo will be gone for good
TOTAL
BARRYCHAD
VICTORY
This Yoshida guy is a fucking creep, disgusting leftist
Barry will never have his link for his Zelda
>Yoshi-P isn't a trans groom- ACK
>barry
>chad
>victory
>while cheerleading two dead games for which the development studio was axed
Hmm... That's a weird kind of victory.
We got barry good, sisters! Can I invite more people over to our MMO grooming discord?
>Barry literally can't reconcile the fact that XIV is spry, alive and being constantly updated while XV is dead and Square doesn't give a shit to do anything with it even though it's supposedly "the most popular FF in the history of the universe"
Peak copium consumption.
>XIV is spry, alive and being constantly updated
mmo division were also down this month lmao
Yes, and it's still getting an expansion and a graphical overhaul to prepare it for the next 10 years ahead. Clearly Square isn't worried.
I really hope FF16 under performing and Mario RPG selling gangbusters can make Square Enix become less retarded moving forward.
If Kitase kept his job after LR it'll never happen
>XVI was a flop! Square is just pretending it's not an unmitigated disaster! Even though they emphatically and unapologetically shat on Forspoken without trying to dress it up
>Flops get two pieces of standalone DLC announced right after launch all the time!
>HUFFFFFFFFFF