He wouldn't be complaining about sold out if he's got a PC to play with
I have a hacked Switch but I wanted a physical copy for this game.
I'll just wait a few weeks to see if there will be any restock, if not I guess I'll just pirate it.
Nobody buys nintendo games in my country, there are still limited editios of zelda being sold. Give me money for the game, shipping plus extra 10€ and i will get it for you.
It's a blast. Besides the fun combat, there's so many other things you can do. Plus its one of the few story heavy JRPGs that gives a lot of roleplaying content
>Summer Myuria was a tank character >also ridiculously powerful
Amazing character. Glad I randomly got her and decided to max her out since I didn't have a good tank at the time.
I am. >what setups to go for
Depends on the characters. Some characters are hopelessly only going to be truly good for HP damage.
Claude's Mirror Slice does decent enough break but helm splitter or combo link Knuckle Burst are your best break options
Chisato is a break monster, so is Welch, so is Precious, and the mages are also decent by design of how they work (provided you invest)
Right now I'm in the middle of a refactoring frenzy across all my party members for CoT >need crit super boost for MP sustain >need bunny shoes to chase down fast enemies >need resistances to stop paralysis forever chains, petrification chains, and instant death >need at least 1k defense to reduce damage from nearly 5k per hit to 2-3k.
Now that I've got a system it's not taking that long to get everybody current.
How are the mages late game, anyways? I kinda want to drop 1 fighter to run 2 and Rena + mage. That'll also decide if I bother to finish fishing for Celine's weapon.
If you're not abusing bloody armor/helmet? I would say at least one makes CoT significantly more tolerable. Raw stunlocks are harder to do and there are a lot more enemies
Their casting logic still requires disabling large amounts of spells but there's less delay in their chain casting at the end levels. Celline explosion knocks up basically the entire field and southern cross takes 3 shields off per cast.
Which is helpful when there's 6 knights, 1 of which is a leader who gives double damage.
well yeah, but you had to do that in the original too so people should know. Basically turn off everything but 2 good aoes, 1 good single target nuke, and maybe a buff or two
In 3 you go to a moon base, planet styx, 4d space and then the final dungeon. So it's like 6 except you visit 2 different medieval planets before the space stuff
>stupid falseflagging nagger is here AGAIN >still hasn't played any of the games >still trying to make it seem like people who like 3 hate 2, which is completely retarded
KILL
YOURSELF
RETARD
it's not that extreme at all, you just need good/reasonable gear for the point you're at in the game, absolutely no need to cheese for the marvel sword or whatever
Sort of. You're past the hardest hump of the early game's opening few hours. There are going to be things that fuck you up still in the future though. The cute mage girls and the cute archer girl will ruin you.
4 and 5 are the only really entries that I would suggest someone takes a moment to think about if they want to play them. 4 at the very least is a feature complete game, while I don't think I can suggest to even try 5 due to the fact that the game was rushed in in an almost incomplete state due to Triace getting no time or budget for the game.
The past threads have positive opinions on 1 and 3. You'll get quarrels about the plot twist for 3 (No, I'm not that anon) but the gameplay and content tend to be well looked upon.
6 seems to have good reception but barely anyone has played it to form an opinion.
How about 4? I think it's the only one available on PC aside from 6 and now 2 (if we don't take emulation into account), so I've been kinda thinking about checking it out later.
4 is really anime. I mean REALLY anime and the 3D models don't help. The battle system was serviceable from what I remember and teleporting behind people was pretty fun. Story and plot though? Just don't take it seriously.
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Producer for SO4 straight out said he just wanted to make a erotic game
It makes you understand some decisions in SO4 better.
1 month ago
aceman
They also made a fully nude Reimi model too
You can't see ALL of it. For obvious reasons but its there in the game
1 month ago
Anonymous
Bull fucking shit. You mean the shower scene model? Is it ripped?
1 month ago
aceman
https://shmuplations.com/starocean4/
they did. And yes its the shower model.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Show ripped model
1 month ago
aceman
My apologies I don't have it myself. I know it was ripped a very VERY long time ago just try searching for it
I tried to do it myself some time back but I couldn't make heads or tails of SO4's formats
1 month ago
Anonymous
That's misinformation spread by Sankaku Complex. The actual statement was a joke about Edge's name.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I love how goofy 4 is. And if you play in japanese, Lymle's "kay" is just "noyo" which is really no worse than renge saying "nano" at the end of her sentences. It's a cute character quirk that doesn't translate well to westerners.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I saw lymle's kay as mimicking the way a doting mother would talk to a child to calm them down. I never had an issue with it (outside of the fact they're literally letting a toddler get killed in battle)
? That means less than nothing. Nearly EVERY game on Ganker gets an against-the-rule general (like this one) and then is either later forgotten, or hated. It happened with Strive, it happened with Elden Ring. It happened for both SO6 and this game.
It doesn't matter if the series is a 4/10 in the eyes of critics. Star Ocean is a 10/10 in my heart. I won't deny that each entry has its own myriad of issues, or try to upsell you into thinking they are underrated masterpieces. But I also won't deny the fond memories I have with these games.
The past threads have positive opinions on 1 and 3. You'll get quarrels about the plot twist for 3 (No, I'm not that anon) but the gameplay and content tend to be well looked upon.
6 seems to have good reception but barely anyone has played it to form an opinion.
,
Ganker like SO6, Ganker like the OG SO2 and psp remake. Ganker liked the psp remake of SO1. Disregarding the ending snafu Ganker likes 3 overall.
>reached 8k attack stat >still only hitting around 40k damage max for the achievement
Is there a good way to get to 99,999? I kinda wish Dias was a chick so he can triple his attack with Earrings of Frenzy and still double his damage with Crimson Devil
It's funny how everyone, including here, says how great and amazing this looks, but they also complain endlessly over Bloodstained which is somehow even less jarring with its 3D backgrounds, than this game. Something smells fishy...
Two entirely different games, two entirely different genres and two entirely different art styles and two entirely different fanbases. Don't you have a Spider-Man thread to go shitpost in or something?
The one is praised for having ugly, jarring 3D backgrounds, the other is condemned for the same (despite not having 2D sprites from another game put into them).
Emerson, did I ever tell you about Rena Lanford? She was your great great great grandfather’s exotic teenage alien companion, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems.
Dias and Claude used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Elurian invasion of Lacuer, and once in a while we’d even have the entire party run a train over her, part of official hero “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsword better than anyone in the expedition. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her space elf pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while punching a Mindflayer in half. It was surreal.
We taught her to grip her sword backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by bandits and Allen almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Emerson, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
How late into the game do I get all of my party members? I just got to Linga and I can kill the desert superboss, but I don't want to because I want a full party so everyone gets the exp.
Star Ocean 5 was almost good, it just ended abruptly out of nowhere and it just didn't have the weird quirkiness I expected from Tri-Ace. 6 felt like a return to form to me
Same. SO5 really hurt because the it seemed so promising from the pre-release interviews and it felt like Tri-ace had the right direction in mind, but then the game was just pushed out way too soon.
>Use Cheat Engine to remove RNG from levels and nothing else >Everybody gets 1 more int and ste than what guides say they should >Other stats go up normally
Not sure what is going on. Either there is a very small chance at these higher values and CE gives them always as intended, or there is something a bit fucky with the script even though I looked at the table and it looks fine.
There have been nonstop SO2R threads since the game came out. God forbid people who have already played both the original and this want to talk about something else that's related.
>game is about series that doesn't get the chance for discussion >remake comes out of entry that many fans like >niche fans get a good reason to discuss again
Why is this so fucking hard to comprehend?
for me another week and then I'll probably beat this and move on to Yakoozers. I'll be avoiding those threads until I beat it though because people are homosexuals
I can smell her from that picture. I doubt she ever bathes on purpose.
Dont actually mind girls like that though. They always take my desire to shower together romantically so I get double points just trying to keep them from stinking too much.
well, it still has some dubious PSP changes. I think the inn scene in Cross is still gone, and FUCK Weepy and Creepy as names. Since they used that script though I'm not going to complain
cool but nobody agrees with you so fuck off back to blind retard land
1 month ago
Anonymous
he's right tho
1 month ago
Anonymous
>poster count didn't change
lol >unless hes maximum retard levels and replying to himself
75% of the posts as the poster count doesn't change as "people" "agree" with "him"
>its 30 fps
Painful but not unexpected for portable >has long loading screens
This one really hurts, but at least in the demo they weren't TOO too bad, maybe 1.5x-2x compared to PC (on SSD, just in case).
>has long loading screens.
its funny how people always say the advantage of a game being on a cart is no loading screens.
but we are already at a time where disk based games load faster.
They make you download the game from the disc anyways, which is probably why there's less loading. I hate having to constantly delete games on a console though, it's why I almost never touch my PS4 anymore.
Unless you want experience the OG game in its purest form this one, it pretty much takes both the PS1 and PSP versions make it the definitive way to play
>Why is this teenage girl interested in a strapping, handsome, brave, kind, and well meaning man who's only a few years older than her?
Are you stupid or just retarded?
Anything neat to look out for for crafting early? I noticed I can turn green gems into 50% mp use rings, which is neat. Anything else I should eye out early?
Crafting is extremely broken in this game in a good way. You can make literal endgame weapons 5% into the game, so id just say have fun with it and explore.
>Rena gets pissy when Claude talks to other girls >Rena wonders why Claude is upset that she literally ditched him to go help Dias and then missed Claude's match
Rena's the worst girl in her own game.
sorry
Is Claude not also jealous (technically envious?) of Dias' interactions with Rena, and also is befuddled when Rena behaves oddly when he talks to women?
Are you trying to say that Claude letting women join the party when they have similar goals is the same as Rena talking about Dias nonstop and then leaving Claude and the group to go be with Dias? Are you perhaps a woman?
1 month ago
Anonymous
NTA, Claude is not without fault but Rena is definitely having a woman moment, both during the Celine hometown event and the arena episode. I frankly believe Rena's too used to being the object of affection from everybody that she just thinks she can do no wrong. As for Claude, he's just petty.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Claude is not without fault
He pretty much is. Unless you go out of your way to be a dick in PAs, he doesn't actually do anything wrong or act unreasonable.
>As for Claude, he's just petty.
Because at one point while she ditched everyone he said "Fine, go be with Dias."?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>fuck off dad, it's safe
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about in the context of him and Rena, not about the dad sized chip on his shoulder.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>He pretty much is.
He isn't. That's one of the defining things he approaches during his flashbacks, you see a culmination of the things that themselves revealed themselves early game.
Namely his overall insecurity and general immaturity.
Xeno gears remake when?
I'd be surprised if anybody attempted it. Not least of all because the overall spritework in xenogears is rather top notch and putting that shit in HD so people don't complain about the crunchiness would cost an absolutely insane amount of money.
1 month ago
Anonymous
sorry, this was for you
I'm talking about in the context of him and Rena, not about the dad sized chip on his shoulder.
Star Ocean is a pretty poor JRPG franchise in general. SO2 original is an ok game (the best SO)
I would say skip it. Obviously I haven't played this remake.
I wish /x/ was right and you could hate people to death because you honestly need to just die.
Try harder shill-anon, maybe you'll burst your own blood vessels kek
Its good, its one of those old style games where you get out what you put into learning its systems. New QoL makes it feel much shorter now that with the travel time and backtracking chaff cut with fast travel and being able to just dodge encounters.
I'll take the remake over 2 because magic in 2 fucking sucks. It sucks so bad, and I don't even mean your own party members. Having to deal with an enemy with magic is the worst thing ever because they constantly pause the action and it made me dread having to get into battles. I shouldn't want to avoid fights in an action RPG.
i traded in my copy to gamestop 14 years ago, along with my entire ps2 collection, things like valkyrie profile silmeria, shadow hearts covenant and new world, ys ark of napishtim, etc. they didnt want to take the slipcover for so3 so its in my closet somewhere.
i am sorry.
I know that feel, I was a dumb fucking kid and would get rid of old games as I got newer consoles, I had so many games that are considered classics now.
pulled up my list of what i had from a 2008 email to a buddy
The Bouncer
Bully
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Drakengard
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Kingdom Hearts II
Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2
Legacy of Kain: Defiance
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Manhunt
Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shadow of the Colossus
Shinobi
Spider-Man 2
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Suikoden III
Tales of the Abyss
Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim
it's tangentially related and will allow me to make this factual statement: SO3 is Motoi Sakuraba's finest OST work, and he's been phoning it in ever since. It's literally his magnus opus.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'd say that VP2 and SO3 had equally high highs.
While I like Moody Goddess, it's a different world apart from "In Order to Acquire the Light in That Hand"...
Jesus what the fuck was he smoking with the VP2 ost naming scheme.
How the fuck do I remember this shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Highbrow was unironically one of the worst final boss themes I've ever heard while Moody Goddess was phenomenal. SO3's soundtrack was a land of contrasts.
1 month ago
Anonymous
sounds like Highbrow is too... high brow for you. the latter half of that track is a prog masterpiece.
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1 month ago
Anonymous
Anon...
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1 month ago
Anonymous
Nta now while the first 50 seconds are kind of miss, from 1 minute in it's all thriller. You just have to suffer into the intro and bad sampling.
I'd argue that Baten Kaitos and Origins are his best work, but SO3 is a close second.
>and Origins
Oh good lord I forgot that released on the switch
But there's no way in fuck I'm buying anything else on a system that's likely going to have it's entirely library unplayable on the next generation of console next year.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'd argue that Baten Kaitos and Origins are his best work, but SO3 is a close second.
I know that feel, I was a dumb fucking kid and would get rid of old games as I got newer consoles, I had so many games that are considered classics now.
The conclusion of the plot twist essentially boils down to "I think, thus I am." If you can't wrap your head around this, you're literally too dumb for entry-level philosophy.
If you think every piece of poorly written Japanese media that invokes entry level religious or philosophical concepts is automatically nuanced by virtue of having those ideas at all, then you're probably the kind of idiot who think Eva and Xenogears are deep masterpieces of philosophy.
>he's saying it's simple
So he's pretending that anyone who didn't like it didn't understand the concept on a basic level? That's an ever stupider shitpost.
that doesn't reply to what he said at all though so I guess he was right
Pretending that anyone missed the extremely obvious point is ridiculous. You're exactly the kind of idiot that looks at shitty Japanese writing and assumes anyone who didn't like it just didn't get it on a thematic level as opposed to reality which is everyone who didn't like it didn't like the clumsy execution and hamfisted writing.
you actually think anyone thinks Eva is 'deep'. You're a retard fighting a strawman that never existed and is two decades too old.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>pretending no one thinks Eva is deep
You are the dumbest cocksucker alive.
>anyone who didn't like it
He didn't say anything about liking it. All he said in [...] was "if you don't understand it, you're dumb".
No one had trouble wrapping their head around the concept. People hated it for the horrible implementation.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There was literally someone in these threads equating the death of all inhabitants of Eternal Sphere to a videogame character dying (literally bringing up the example of Aeris' death).
Yes, I thought that people were strawmanning "didn't understand it", but it turns out there really are such people.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>There was literally someone in these threads equating the death of all inhabitants of Eternal Sphere to a videogame character dying (literally bringing up the example of Aeris' death).
But that's true.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Welp, we got another one
1 month ago
Anonymous
>he's too stupid to understand
I can play this game too. Either refute it or sit your ass down.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>gets told >the shitposter facade slips and he starts just insulting (poorly)
GG I win, no RE better luck next time kid LOL
1 month ago
Anonymous
ESLretards should all be rangebanned.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I agree, so be the difference you want to see and fuck right off
>anyone who didn't like it
He didn't say anything about liking it. All he said in
The conclusion of the plot twist essentially boils down to "I think, thus I am." If you can't wrap your head around this, you're literally too dumb for entry-level philosophy.
>I think the music is a huge upgrade
This is how you *know* it's a shill. No one could legitimately say that, especially with how good the original soundtrack was. Holy fuck lol
Today you learned what the word "subjective" means, and you're an idiot if there's no possible way someone could have a different opinion than you.
I think the music is legitimately better than the original, there was this overbearing echoey quality to the orignal that was a bit too much imo.
And it's too overbearing even though I liked the music, you overly emotional homosexual
Don't know what's up with you and the elephant thing, that's out of left field
1 month ago
Anonymous
Then go play your new, improved slop, zoomer. And tell me again how you were "SUCH A BIG FAN" of the originals whilst you simultaneously shit on every aspect of the original game, and others in the series too.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm likely older than you, anon, and played it originally on the PSX in the 90's. One of my favorite games.
Seriously, listen to everyoen telling you to stop sperging out.
Who the hell is Gemdrops? They're apparently the actual developers for this remake, and they did a great fucking job. The only other titles I could find from them (which is very few) look at most a quarter as good as this one.
Weird
I'm not gonna lie, I played Phantasia somewhat recently and I was surprised it had the short/long range combat stuff as well as quite a few shared spells. I know why it felt familiar, but it was funny to see how much they reused when they went to make SO.
Well so, since this version has demonstrably worse music, worse visuals and worse voice work then the one I already own, what reason is there again for me to dump full price for this so-called "remake" again? The artwork for the characters is nice but it's not worth that price.
I was wondering why these threads didn't have the demented shitposting homosexuals that call every a shill and every remaster and remake a demake. I guess it just took them a while to find the threads.
Nope. there's been at least 3 or 4 other people beside me calling out the ugly background art in this game. Then you shills flip the fuck out and start sperging all over the place. It's quite something to see. You know, not everyone has to suck Square-Enix's flaccid cock 24/7. It's ok, anon - there really is a toothfairy. 🙂
Possibly.
But given it's fully 3D and generally higher poly it'd require less work than a VP2 remaster but more work than this remaster took as you'd have to redo the assets or cheap out for a lazy "port"
Can you turn off the bloom and blur effects on the PS5 versions?
I've never played an SO game (always get mixed signals on what's worth playing and what's not) and had been looking towards this remake
I can say that it looks fun and I like the music I've heard and VAs but it's a little rough on the eyes, it's very bright at times in trailers
I swear SE has had issues with bloom and blur on another HD 2D game in the past and let you remove/dumb it down via a patch
actual women in these threads >uh WHY should Claude be mad if his friend goes out of her way to leave him, help his foe in the tournament get a super special strong sword to help him beat Claude, and then misses his match? >uh YEAH she can be mad as other females join HELLO
>his friend goes out of her way to leave him, help his foe in the tournament get a super special strong sword to help him beat Claude, and then misses his match?
Now explain why it’s bad
>without Takahashi's involvement. :
Cool. Maybe they'll call his wife and hte other guys at Square who wrote all the good parts of the story to begin with instead of letting him tie it into his shitty perfect works canon.
A 65 IQ shitskin is in no position to even be speaking to me, let alone asking questions. Go back and make me a hamburger.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm smarter and whiter than you. You can't even understand basic English. People who know Takahashi is a hack aren't the ones posting in XB3 threads, stupid fucking third worlder.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, you're a sub-80 mongoloid and likely not even human. Imagine crying over Takahashi in a fucking shit ocean thread. Are you for real, mutt?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Imagine crying over Takahashi in a fucking shit ocean thread
So the mentally ill underage shitposters are the retards from XB2 threads that think that pile of shit had good writing? That would explain a lot.
SF only added in missing content because Kawazu himself was spearheading the project. Monolith doesn't work at Square and I doubt they kept Kawazu amounts of design docs necessary to blueprint the game at Square.
And monolith for all the good it's done hasn't really been releasing... nuanced titles.
shitposting aside, I think SO3 is a fun game, and even if it's different from SO2 in large parts it stands well on its own
SO3 is a great game it's just some parts of it are a drag. The first 3 hours on any playthrough always threaten to put me to sleep
You're making me sad and I liked this remake. FF7 will never ever get a proper remake because of Nomura.
>because of Nomura.
Fucking time jannies, man. Like I'll buy anything that Hamauzu composes music for but holy shit lmao.
>could've have chibis or some stylized characters >pixelshit in 3d world
soulessness
i hate octopath traveler for making this popular, i liked it when only it did it
>i hate octopath traveler for making this popular, i liked it when only it did it
Thank you for saying this. I hated Octopath too and I think the visuals are one of the main reasons why. It looks jarring and nothing like the old 2D style SNES/PS1 era of RPGs.
>classic sprite-based games
None of the games you listed are that, with how much post-processing is shat out all over the sprites that MAYBE would've even looked good if not for that.
personally, I don't care for the visual of HD-2D. I'm buying these remakes simply because they're the old games repackaged and gives us an excuse to replay and shitpost about them
I've been playing in moon and I know what you're referring to. The kanji is 英雄 but the furigana is ヒーロー. That's just an idiosyncrasy of the language with how they ascribe meaning to words in some cases.
it's definitely an error. They are talking about whether Claude is the hero, she says something like "I'm sorry, I thought you must be the hero" but the text is "I'm sorry, I thought you must be CLAUDE" with the colors over the name etc
Same and it's my favorite RPG of all time still, but I would KILL for it to get a remake as lovingly done as this while the shitposters shit themselves bloody.
I don't care because even with it the game is a LENGTHY RPG still. FF 7 also gets away with two different info dump sections with no complaints.
When I read that it was either that or chopping the game into Part 1 and Part 2, I'm glad we got what we got.
Ewww, its so ugly! Give me my 3D realistic world grafix, redone soundtrack and rewritten, retranslated, censored dialogue please with fast travel and tutortials every time I press a button!
boomers shit they're pants over phone games even though this shit has even more retarded braindead gameplay and is 90% a bad visual novel with the most genetic anime characters ever written LOL
THAT WAS A QUEER GUY.
LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE POPULAR WITH THE LADIES AGAIN! (wtf Bowman, your wife is dead and you don't even care?!)
TEN SECONDS.
PIECE OF JUNK.
>I assume Gankerirgins here use the Jap voices
Well yeah. At least until someone puts in the old PS1 battle voices. Even if it disables all the other dialogue.
Uh, most 19 year olds don't sound like 12 year old nerds just starting puberty. The original had deeper voices for the men in general, minus Ashton who was meant to sound like a faggy nerd. I wonder if it's a problem with males in general, having lower T and thus, weaker, faggier sounding voices?
It's within the range of teenage voices, anon. It sounded much deeper when you were younger, but if you have kids and listen to teens talk, it's very rare that it's deep.
It's hard to determine how the meta is going to shake up.
Late game Welch is probably tied with Chisato for absolute shitpushers now as they both are capable of just shitting out break and damage.
Instead of spamming 10,000 volts, Tear gas and her regular attacks you invest in her sky high hit, toss her rising dragon into cartwheel, somersault into cards, and either shotgun break bars into nothingsness or dish out 10s of thousands of damage per second.
You could also go with the traditional of hyper stacking into + attack and normal attack enemies into dust.
Tear gas also while being not as good as it used to be is unbelievably good as an assault action, borderline caster tier in it's ability to strip break at the press of a button.
is this retard trying to make FF and Xenogears fags fight against people who like Star Ocean? Real Mental Illness Hours™
Diseased console warring nagger mind
I hope they revert some of that overly flowery dialogue from WotL and hit a middle ground between it and the straightforward and sometimes janky og translation. And the shitty unnecessary name changes like Argath and Forlmarv
>they didn't fuck them up, they just fucked them up
And no, it's not actually a smoothing filter, they went out of their way to remake by hand all the pixel art in a new style that just looks like it. Which is even more insane.
There's more to the visuals than just sprites. They fucked up the sprites. Completely fucked up visuals would mean all of it is fucked up, including environments, magic effects and UI.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>including environments
They did the exact same thing to the environments that they did to the character sprites.
I feel like you fucks would be defending the Rondo/Sotn remake graphics and redub.
DXC in itself looks good because there was care put into the environments in making them work in 3D. It's no replacement for the immensely high quality 2D original but it's not bad by any stretch.
The revised translation of SOTN PSP is naturally better than the original's localiser fanfiction.
I own Dracula X Chronicles, and while yes it's inferior in Rondo in nearly every way imaginable, it still wasn't a bad game if you were an aggressive castlevania fan.
And Dracula's new third form was legitimately neat albeit a bit tired.
Also a few sort newish techniques for whip movement and the remix of Moonfight was very VERY good.
Listen to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8SMHJ24Vsc
Speaking of music, having the original rondo (albeit not the best version) and SotN attatched to the game was pretty high value.
In general I didn't regret my purchase, but I was literally weaned on Casltevania. I learned to read and write because of the manual for 3. So I might be a tiny bit biased.
who fucking cares
the original dub is cheesy bad and memorable, the new dub was generic but gets the job done. x chronicles was low budget but plays fine, rondo is still a classic. despite this apparently you just had to stir shit because apparently this game angers you or something
there's an IP counter there, the one I fucking mentioned you dolt, and you still need to actively pay attention to them and keep track of whether they changed with a new post, which is absolutely a terminally online behavior
>he doesn't use Ganker X >he's still pretending he knew about the corner numbers
HAHAHAHAHA EXPOSED
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Ganker X
like I said, touch grass
1 month ago
Anonymous
GankerX is often inaccurate on new IPs anyway, which is why you sometimes see schizo chains as above.
SE-shills are just grasping at whatever straws they can, as always. They probably took a big paycut after XVI failed so hard.
>he still has to resort to his archer strawman because he can't address any of the actual points I made
>4 skill limit
Which was achieved by removing skills that didn't need to be skills. You really don't play the games you shitpost about, do you?
>skills that didn't need to be skills
heavily debatable, offloading some of the shit to equipment was a neat idea, but it still felt limiting more than anything
>4 Skills
Yeah because I don't have to waste my skill slots on Counterattack, Parry, Swiftfoot, Tactician, Strengthen as well skill tax like having to waste an entire fucking skill slot on the ability for my mages to cast magic (per type). >Cards
Strength/Magic/Crit Cards are heavily neutered by simply using debuff items.
Damage formula in the game also operates on thresholds so if you fail the meet the thresholds then they don't really help. Better off trying to beat element or using finishers instead.
MP Generation eventually solves itself once you can craft fruits and the +100 MP Staves.
I should probably make one.
[...]
Not him but they did archers dirty to the point that enemy archers are also trivial in a very serious way. While mages just moved in and replaced their function thanks to how oppressive the player power curve is with access to rampant aura.
Dreadknights are a good enough bandaid but the option is usually between them and one shotting multiple units with the now overtuned berserk.
Though if the game did one thing good it's magic uber generics. But they didn't fix the bug that basically allowed you to super stack the mental stacks when body snatching so it's really easy to fuck up a bit and create an unstoppable uber. I had to save edit down the stats of many a character on my path to the ultimate Angel Knight.
The thing with reborn is that they didn't touch the bow damage formula from PSP. They were however indirectly nerfed because the damage formula penalises them heavily for equipment based defense and everyone can equip more compared to PSP. This causes them to become incredibly volatile where squishies are always taking damage but heavy armor units go from 1 to actual damage if you debuff them. Furthermore, a thing about archers that a lot of people don't appreciate in Reborn is that they're actually incredibly good at inflicting ailments during Chapter 3+ making them really good at controlling mages and Dark Knights. Once you get the set from PoTD and put it on a properly geared character, they'll be relevant again (for a physical unit).
The same threshold based design is what lead to the meme of "crushing" weapons being better on Golems because of damage type.
>Once you get the set from PoTD and put it on a properly geared character
J'ygla?
Yeah about that.
This character had about 250 stats also artificially pumped into her. So if you're intimate with the system I hope you're aware at how dire this screenshot was.
>he can't play a real tactics game because he can't overlevel and spam archers any more
FILTERED
Not him but they did archers dirty to the point that enemy archers are also trivial in a very serious way. While mages just moved in and replaced their function thanks to how oppressive the player power curve is with access to rampant aura.
Dreadknights are a good enough bandaid but the option is usually between them and one shotting multiple units with the now overtuned berserk.
Though if the game did one thing good it's magic uber generics. But they didn't fix the bug that basically allowed you to super stack the mental stacks when body snatching so it's really easy to fuck up a bit and create an unstoppable uber. I had to save edit down the stats of many a character on my path to the ultimate Angel Knight.
How does it feel knowing the 'demake' is considered the definitive version and was successful and rated highly enough to cause FFT to get the same treatment?
I'm going to love playing it while you seethe on Ganker about it in threads about other games
>the 'demake' is considered the definitive version
by you and your reddit friends maybe, OV is still definitive for anyone who actually cares about the game
It's just a few autists and a shitposter.
Second Story R is fantastic, and I'd like to see this developer work on some other remakes for Square rather than internal Square.
never played a star ocean game but enjoyed the demo and I've been in the mood for a classic JRPG. Anything I need to know before jumping into the full game?
never played a star ocean game but enjoyed the demo and I've been in the mood for a classic JRPG. Anything I need to know before jumping into the full game?
Each game is standalone but happens in the same universe with some character bloodlines and connections spreading outwards and some background lore that might pop up but don't really matter much. Big thing to know is that these aren't very long games, but have a bunch of different character endings and events to mess with, and in this game in particular lots of different ways to level your characters, gain money, customize items and gear, a very "create your own playthroughs" kind of deal.
Because it's 100% analogous to you fuckers loving this game. Same horrible, boring dub, same ugly 3D style graphics. That is why.
Not even remotely comparable. Plus most people here are probably playing in JP voices because the PSP dub was so generic, like how no one seems to be using the PSP moeblob art.
>move from shitting on SO3 to shitting on to shitting on xeno to shitting on TO
we could be talking about plapping leon introducing Rena to federation sextoys, but instead we gotta talk about this shit
>i..it's...r..reddit...
lol you will never fit in, contrarian retard. Seethe and dance for my amusement and you hit reply; you just can't help it and you KNOW I'm talking to you LOL
Honestly her old designs made her look like a school girl shrine maiden which was always kinda weird to me. This version of her socks and light shoulder armor make her look a lot more like someone that actually traverses a world filled with dangerous monster attacks while still keeping the maiden look.
seems to be just once.
I've made saves before each of the wiseman fights and each of the raids just in case i want to revist them before my next playthrough.
seems to be just once.
I've made saves before each of the wiseman fights and each of the raids just in case i want to revist them before my next playthrough.
honestly looking back, I can't really say the remake's new 3D environments are a downgrade in any way besides some of the atmosphere. SO2's prerendered backgrounds were incredibly low budget, like noticeably so. there's a charm to it but it meant a lot of towns and areas straight up looked like baby's first town shapes in a 3D rendering program.
As much as I love the PS1 pre-rendered look, with a little more work on the shaders and textures I think this style of low poly with some fixed camera angles could surpass it. I'd kill for a high effort remake of Digimon World with that style.
They're mostly great but there are a few areas where they're downgrades. The common issue is that the cities feel significantly smaller since there are no loading zones separating areas so the entire cities are now just a walkable area of a few buildings and two or three streets. The other issue is that a few specific locations look rather bland compared to their original appearances and the cinematography became worse as a result of using 3D environments rather than pre-rendered backgrounds with specific angles. The room at the entrance to the Wise Men's tower at the end of the game is one of the best examples of this.
1. You can hook her up with your MC (or another male character) and they're in a relationship in the ending, but no explicit fucking during the game.
2. Yes, it improves on the original
>how do I not filter myself out of Opera
Don't recruit Ashton. That's it. If you stumble upon his quest select the dialogue that doesn't have him join your party.
>Rena gets jealous when Welch joins even thought Claude wasn't really trying to bring her into the party >30 minutes ago Rena was ditching Claude to go help Dias
Rena is garbage.
Because teenagers are horny.
>we have to pretend that teenaged girls don't like early 20s dudes
Mutt hours, please understand
>Have to pretend that 12 year olds don't want dick
Claude is also a teenager.
retard
Because girls are horny.
Even little ones.
Like, very little.
>game is sold out everywhere in my country
>no restock in sight
Bros...
*ahem*
He wouldn't be complaining about sold out if he's got a PC to play with
I have a hacked Switch but I wanted a physical copy for this game.
I'll just wait a few weeks to see if there will be any restock, if not I guess I'll just pirate it.
Nobody buys nintendo games in my country, there are still limited editios of zelda being sold. Give me money for the game, shipping plus extra 10€ and i will get it for you.
Sounds like any other 16 year old.
They really made her look like a muchkin in most of her concept art and other media appearances. She's supposed to be only 2 inches shorter than Rena
so is the game good oir is just a meme?.
i tried divine force and i kinda like it. how is this one compared to that one?
2 is literally the only good star ocean game, its very good
please no hyperbole
why is this one good and all the others bad?
Solid story, solid end/postgame, decent characters. Someone will chime in and say the other one is good too, and it is, just not as good.
3 is way better. People hate it because they are still seething about muh plot twist 20 years later, it's insane.
It's a blast. Besides the fun combat, there's so many other things you can do. Plus its one of the few story heavy JRPGs that gives a lot of roleplaying content
this is a shill thread tbh
I wish /x/ was right and you could hate people to death because you honestly need to just die.
NPCs cannot. You are a soulless hylic, so you even existing is basically untrue.
bot post
>well loved psx game gets rerelease
>shocked when Ganker has a thread about a video game
???
>inb4 3 fags try to convince everyone that the plot twist is good and that the remake is bad
SPACE
ELF
PUSSY
Based
They look like they are going to bully me
Bacchus fucked this
Bacchus fucked this
Bacchus fucked THIS?!
>Summer Myuria was a tank character
>also ridiculously powerful
Amazing character. Glad I randomly got her and decided to max her out since I didn't have a good tank at the time.
What's with that semen demon look holy fuck
You know 16 is legal even in most US states
Anyone actually late game in the remake? I'm kinda wondering what setups to go for
Really wish there were more break moves...
I am.
>what setups to go for
Depends on the characters. Some characters are hopelessly only going to be truly good for HP damage.
Claude's Mirror Slice does decent enough break but helm splitter or combo link Knuckle Burst are your best break options
Chisato is a break monster, so is Welch, so is Precious, and the mages are also decent by design of how they work (provided you invest)
Right now I'm in the middle of a refactoring frenzy across all my party members for CoT
>need crit super boost for MP sustain
>need bunny shoes to chase down fast enemies
>need resistances to stop paralysis forever chains, petrification chains, and instant death
>need at least 1k defense to reduce damage from nearly 5k per hit to 2-3k.
Now that I've got a system it's not taking that long to get everybody current.
How are the mages late game, anyways? I kinda want to drop 1 fighter to run 2 and Rena + mage. That'll also decide if I bother to finish fishing for Celine's weapon.
If you're not abusing bloody armor/helmet? I would say at least one makes CoT significantly more tolerable. Raw stunlocks are harder to do and there are a lot more enemies
Their casting logic still requires disabling large amounts of spells but there's less delay in their chain casting at the end levels. Celline explosion knocks up basically the entire field and southern cross takes 3 shields off per cast.
Which is helpful when there's 6 knights, 1 of which is a leader who gives double damage.
well yeah, but you had to do that in the original too so people should know. Basically turn off everything but 2 good aoes, 1 good single target nuke, and maybe a buff or two
Yeah. I was just saying that it's not that they didn't improve the AI (that) much.
But yeah I like em. They're rather good.
>Only just realized that the Shield of Athena overwrites the Ring of Might's element weaknesses
>Could have had doubled attack this entire time
Do 3 and 5 have multiple planets like SO4?
3...not exactly but you do go to new areas out the main world most of the game takes place on
5 you're stuck there
>3
So just like in 6 then?
Kinda.
Really disappointing that the series about exploration of different exploration has interplanetary travels only in 1 game
In 3 you go to a moon base, planet styx, 4d space and then the final dungeon. So it's like 6 except you visit 2 different medieval planets before the space stuff
While there are multiple planets in 3, you spend the vast majority of your playtime on a single one.
Asking again. Is meteor fist and helm splitter Claude's best combination of skills? Everything else seems worse.
the basic attack is the best
Old or rearranged soundtrack?
>stupid falseflagging nagger is here AGAIN
>still hasn't played any of the games
>still trying to make it seem like people who like 3 hate 2, which is completely retarded
KILL
YOURSELF
RETARD
>4 tries to beat the first boss on Universe
It's all smooth sailing once I get to Krosse, right?
Universe assumes you're either on NG+ or cheesing with Super Gear early
it's not that extreme at all, you just need good/reasonable gear for the point you're at in the game, absolutely no need to cheese for the marvel sword or whatever
Sort of. You're past the hardest hump of the early game's opening few hours. There are going to be things that fuck you up still in the future though. The cute mage girls and the cute archer girl will ruin you.
Never fails to be funny seeing one of the characters celebrating victory while the others are dead in the background
For me it started feeling pretty standard once I got four party members.
SO is the type of game where you can be going along fine and then get one shot all of a sudden. Probably why they added the retry option
>Ganker loves SO2R
>Ganker hates every other SO game including the original psx SO2
Hmm, really makes ya think.
>including the original psx SO2
who are you quoting??
Oh do people have user names and IDs on Ganker now? Cool.
When you ignore the shitposting, most people like SO2, like SO3, either like or haven't played SO1, and are ambivalent about the rest.
I've seen 4 shilled a bit and this one, at least this week. The rest are meh to bad.
>Ganker hates every other SO game including the original psx SO2
why do you lie on the internet?
How is he wrong tho
Ganker like SO6, Ganker like the OG SO2 and psp remake. Ganker liked the psp remake of SO1. Disregarding the ending snafu Ganker likes 3 overall.
Accurate statement.
4 and 5 are the only really entries that I would suggest someone takes a moment to think about if they want to play them. 4 at the very least is a feature complete game, while I don't think I can suggest to even try 5 due to the fact that the game was rushed in in an almost incomplete state due to Triace getting no time or budget for the game.
No. Ganker like maybe the psp "remakes" of 1 and 2 and 4. From what I have seen. And this ofc
>Disregarding the ending snafu Ganker likes 3 overall.
I never liked the lack of overworld and BLADE OF FURY combat.
>BLADE OF FURY
I think you meant SPHERE OF MIGHT.
The past threads have positive opinions on 1 and 3. You'll get quarrels about the plot twist for 3 (No, I'm not that anon) but the gameplay and content tend to be well looked upon.
6 seems to have good reception but barely anyone has played it to form an opinion.
How about 4? I think it's the only one available on PC aside from 6 and now 2 (if we don't take emulation into account), so I've been kinda thinking about checking it out later.
Fun combat, meh/annoying characters, bad plot. Also matters on how much anime comedy you can handle even by JRPG standards.
4 is really anime. I mean REALLY anime and the 3D models don't help. The battle system was serviceable from what I remember and teleporting behind people was pretty fun. Story and plot though? Just don't take it seriously.
>Producer for SO4 straight out said he just wanted to make a erotic game
It makes you understand some decisions in SO4 better.
They also made a fully nude Reimi model too
You can't see ALL of it. For obvious reasons but its there in the game
Bull fucking shit. You mean the shower scene model? Is it ripped?
https://shmuplations.com/starocean4/
they did. And yes its the shower model.
Show ripped model
My apologies I don't have it myself. I know it was ripped a very VERY long time ago just try searching for it
I tried to do it myself some time back but I couldn't make heads or tails of SO4's formats
That's misinformation spread by Sankaku Complex. The actual statement was a joke about Edge's name.
I love how goofy 4 is. And if you play in japanese, Lymle's "kay" is just "noyo" which is really no worse than renge saying "nano" at the end of her sentences. It's a cute character quirk that doesn't translate well to westerners.
I saw lymle's kay as mimicking the way a doting mother would talk to a child to calm them down. I never had an issue with it (outside of the fact they're literally letting a toddler get killed in battle)
Did you miss SO6 threads?
? That means less than nothing. Nearly EVERY game on Ganker gets an against-the-rule general (like this one) and then is either later forgotten, or hated. It happened with Strive, it happened with Elden Ring. It happened for both SO6 and this game.
>Talking about games means its a general
seek help
2 and 6 are the only good games in the series
6 is fucking terrible, fuck off.
6 bad, 2 bad, 3 very bad, 2R gud, 4 gud.
Star Ocean is a consistently mediocre franchise that I love dearly.
Then you should play some good games instead of wasting your one life on garbage.
SOVLless take.
It doesn't matter if the series is a 4/10 in the eyes of critics. Star Ocean is a 10/10 in my heart. I won't deny that each entry has its own myriad of issues, or try to upsell you into thinking they are underrated masterpieces. But I also won't deny the fond memories I have with these games.
same
Why is some weird weeb game I played 25 years ago popular
What is this look trying to convey?
The desire to be impregnated
The look of a succubus that will drain you
>desire to bully Marielle intensifies
oh dear LORD that art and my DICK
Don't do it anon
>wanted Laeticia or Marielle ending
>got snake hag somehow
I heard it happened with a lot of people
Lettuce ending sucks balls, so you came out on top for sure.
>I am the main girl of the game tee hee
>let's be friends Ray!
We saw very different endings
God Bless the Kenny bloodline
Dumb dork
>divine force flew under jap's radars so hard no one even made much of art of her
I like Reimi's ass, Myuria's tits and Green Mega Man.
Based. I wanna play SO4 again after 2.
Same I love playing as Arumat and Bacchus.
Post Bacchus soijack face
I don't save jaks or pepe because I have self respect as a human being.
I meant the face he made in the game. It’s probably was PA but Idon’t remember.
As I said before,
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,
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>reached 8k attack stat
>still only hitting around 40k damage max for the achievement
Is there a good way to get to 99,999? I kinda wish Dias was a chick so he can triple his attack with Earrings of Frenzy and still double his damage with Crimson Devil
Ive heard megabomb is the way to go
Physical bros, I need the secret link before it sellout again
buy direct from square enix
Thanks
Why are the kenny's all autistic and have to include their middle initial whenever they introduce themselves?
Its a family tradition.
>3d environments
>pixel characters
>anime illustration when talking
this is disgusting what the fuck were they thinking?!
It's funny how everyone, including here, says how great and amazing this looks, but they also complain endlessly over Bloodstained which is somehow even less jarring with its 3D backgrounds, than this game. Something smells fishy...
I think bloodstained looked fine. Didn’t get all the hate
And your opinion is in the vast minority here. What now?
Two entirely different games, two entirely different genres and two entirely different art styles and two entirely different fanbases. Don't you have a Spider-Man thread to go shitpost in or something?
The one is praised for having ugly, jarring 3D backgrounds, the other is condemned for the same (despite not having 2D sprites from another game put into them).
Emerson, did I ever tell you about Rena Lanford? She was your great great great grandfather’s exotic teenage alien companion, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems.
Dias and Claude used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Elurian invasion of Lacuer, and once in a while we’d even have the entire party run a train over her, part of official hero “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsword better than anyone in the expedition. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her space elf pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while punching a Mindflayer in half. It was surreal.
We taught her to grip her sword backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by bandits and Allen almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Emerson, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
How late into the game do I get all of my party members? I just got to Linga and I can kill the desert superboss, but I don't want to because I want a full party so everyone gets the exp.
im 10 hours into the game and have everyone except Chisato
You should have 7/8 by the time you finish the invasion. 8/8 if you got welch. The last party members are on the second planet.
%3D
God damn this game is ugly.
This.
SEXO WITH CHISATO
switch demo runs like shit, 5-8 seconds to exit every battle.
is PS5 version any good? I guess PC is not cracked yet
Of course the pS5 rubs smoothly
>switch
The switch runs even native switch only games poorly. I love xenoblade but sometimes those games can be fucking painful.
What the fuck is this?
A mystical potion that switches the HP and MP gauges
I like all star ocean games except SO5
Based. Fuck these discord shitposters trying to ruin another game series because they think Ganker can't like video games.
Star Ocean 5 was almost good, it just ended abruptly out of nowhere and it just didn't have the weird quirkiness I expected from Tri-Ace. 6 felt like a return to form to me
Same. SO5 really hurt because the it seemed so promising from the pre-release interviews and it felt like Tri-ace had the right direction in mind, but then the game was just pushed out way too soon.
5 is fine imo just way too short
>think the game is finally getting started
>credits
2, 3, 4 and 6 are all good games. 4's characters and interactions can be very painful though.
the shitposters have arrived but they're doing a terrible job. Better luck in the Spiderman threads, homosexualS LOL
>Use Cheat Engine to remove RNG from levels and nothing else
>Everybody gets 1 more int and ste than what guides say they should
>Other stats go up normally
Not sure what is going on. Either there is a very small chance at these higher values and CE gives them always as intended, or there is something a bit fucky with the script even though I looked at the table and it looks fine.
Strange.
Welch is OP as fuck now
Is she?
nta but slappity slap and rapid flick are unbelievably good and Nibelungaling is hilariously powerful.
Leon or Celine? Leon seems to have higher damage spells but Celine seems to cast MUCH faster
Leon has the tighter hole
If you pick Leon over the perfection that is Celine you are a raging homosexual
Are there any hot male characters?
Not gay btw, just checking
Yeah there's one at least. You are gay btw.
>nerdy glasses wearing lanky twink
>shota
oh wow... damn... so hot... and so many choices. wow. i am amazed.
Fuck he's cute.
He is not at all
Fag
i'm not and i honestly pity fags who have to content with a bunch of ugly characters and none to call a husbando
Bow man
See
I can save scum fast on the PS5, that's all I care about
>SO2 thread
>70% of the posts are about the other SO game
Why are you all like this, why come to the thread in the first place? You're advertising games that are over 10 years old to nobody
There have been nonstop SO2R threads since the game came out. God forbid people who have already played both the original and this want to talk about something else that's related.
Just make a different thread then. You know if you did no one would reply to you.
>Just make a different thread then
Then you'll have a meltdown about shills spamming threads or something.
>make a separate thread for old games
>or use the thread of the newly released game in the same franchise
Yeah, you can cope.
>New game in 20 year old seires gets other games in said series talked about because why the fuck now.
Get your autism checked out
>street-shitting pahjeet mad his shill thread is not moving any units
I WILL redeem the Cards.
>game is about series that doesn't get the chance for discussion
>remake comes out of entry that many fans like
>niche fans get a good reason to discuss again
Why is this so fucking hard to comprehend?
>Noooooooo do not post only post about shitty mutt remake noooooooo
how many more weeks do you think the threads will last here?
for me another week and then I'll probably beat this and move on to Yakoozers. I'll be avoiding those threads until I beat it though because people are homosexuals
i keep buying games and forgetting about them cause im trying to learn piano. i wanna finish this at least
i dont get it 2 is STILL fun meaning somehow after they fucked up with the rest of the series
I can smell her from that picture. I doubt she ever bathes on purpose.
Dont actually mind girls like that though. They always take my desire to shower together romantically so I get double points just trying to keep them from stinking too much.
Which is the best version of two to play?
the remake is objectively superior. just dont buy the switch version its 30 fps and has long loading screens.
Backgrounds are ugly. Is there any way to disable the voices out of combat? I find it annoying
no there is no MASSIVE homosexual setting, sorry
she can enrage my psynards anytime, if you know what I mean
What makes the remake objectively superior?
they fixed every flaw and balancing issue in the original
and they added more content
+zero censorship
a remake cant get better than this
well, it still has some dubious PSP changes. I think the inn scene in Cross is still gone, and FUCK Weepy and Creepy as names. Since they used that script though I'm not going to complain
It looks like shit visually though.
cool but nobody agrees with you so fuck off back to blind retard land
he's right tho
>poster count didn't change
lol
>unless hes maximum retard levels and replying to himself
75% of the posts as the poster count doesn't change as "people" "agree" with "him"
Then you're not going to like how the original looks either.
That's weird, the original looks good and fits the spritework just fine. It's also very detailed and looks handcrafted, not like an AI shat it out.
Yet it looks and sounds objectively worse than the PS1 game. Go figure
>Yet it looks and sounds objectively worse than the PS1 game
you fags are SO bad at this holy shit
Yeah, it does. Prove it does not.
>prove that I'm a shitposting retard
your posts
your life
Q.E.D. WOW THAT WAS EASY LOL
>+zero censorship
It still retains all the censorship from the PSP version. It just didn't censor anything new.
QOL
Instant IC and stack of 10 for example, this basically makes menu autism goes by so much faster
QOL and balance changes doesn't seem worth the trade off of making the game look like absolute dog shit. I'll just play the ps1 version.
No, it's looks great bro! Don't you just love the ugly 3D realistic graphics with PS1 sprites that look 100% out-of-place?
>its 30 fps
Painful but not unexpected for portable
>has long loading screens
This one really hurts, but at least in the demo they weren't TOO too bad, maybe 1.5x-2x compared to PC (on SSD, just in case).
>has long loading screens.
its funny how people always say the advantage of a game being on a cart is no loading screens.
but we are already at a time where disk based games load faster.
They make you download the game from the disc anyways, which is probably why there's less loading. I hate having to constantly delete games on a console though, it's why I almost never touch my PS4 anymore.
Unless you want experience the OG game in its purest form this one, it pretty much takes both the PS1 and PSP versions make it the definitive way to play
>now the shitposter is using his Discord's flash card notes to screech about the buzzword du jour: PAJEETS!
lol fucking NPC retard
>Why is this teenage girl interested in a strapping, handsome, brave, kind, and well meaning man who's only a few years older than her?
Are you stupid or just retarded?
Anything neat to look out for for crafting early? I noticed I can turn green gems into 50% mp use rings, which is neat. Anything else I should eye out early?
Crafting is extremely broken in this game in a good way. You can make literal endgame weapons 5% into the game, so id just say have fun with it and explore.
>This guy is STILL at it
What would attract some schizo to shitpost a 20 year game.
loneliness + the feeling they are ROW ROW FIGHTAN' DA POWA in their mentally ill heads
>ROW ROW FIGHTAN' DA POWA
More like SIDE KICKIN' or SPHERE OF MIGHTIN'.
the real question is why do people feel the need to respond to that retard everytime unless hes maximum retard levels and replying to himself
Some are bored
But other times they'll go full schizo and start hopping ips and pretend to argue with themselves
every time a new girl joins Rena seethes and Aston gets happy. It's really funny
>Rena gets pissy when Claude talks to other girls
>Rena wonders why Claude is upset that she literally ditched him to go help Dias and then missed Claude's match
Rena's the worst girl in her own game.
is claude also no jelly of dias and then wonders why rena is weird when he talks to girls?
Could you repeat that in English?
sorry
Is Claude not also jealous (technically envious?) of Dias' interactions with Rena, and also is befuddled when Rena behaves oddly when he talks to women?
Are you trying to say that Claude letting women join the party when they have similar goals is the same as Rena talking about Dias nonstop and then leaving Claude and the group to go be with Dias? Are you perhaps a woman?
NTA, Claude is not without fault but Rena is definitely having a woman moment, both during the Celine hometown event and the arena episode. I frankly believe Rena's too used to being the object of affection from everybody that she just thinks she can do no wrong. As for Claude, he's just petty.
>Claude is not without fault
He pretty much is. Unless you go out of your way to be a dick in PAs, he doesn't actually do anything wrong or act unreasonable.
>As for Claude, he's just petty.
Because at one point while she ditched everyone he said "Fine, go be with Dias."?
>fuck off dad, it's safe
I'm talking about in the context of him and Rena, not about the dad sized chip on his shoulder.
>He pretty much is.
He isn't. That's one of the defining things he approaches during his flashbacks, you see a culmination of the things that themselves revealed themselves early game.
Namely his overall insecurity and general immaturity.
I'd be surprised if anybody attempted it. Not least of all because the overall spritework in xenogears is rather top notch and putting that shit in HD so people don't complain about the crunchiness would cost an absolutely insane amount of money.
sorry, this was for you
How do I get that chest? Am I blind? Don't tell me I have to wait for C'MERE BARNEY
yeah you do
and now it's CAHM HEAH BAH KNEE! Celine sounds absolutely desperate when she does it.
I mean she could potentially just never learn love for animals so it's appropriate.
>shitposter threatens to play the original game
no you won't, you mentally ill brown zoomer
I've never played a star ocean game before. I am a fan of jrpgs in general. Is this game good?
Yes
No Ganker hates it
Yeah. It's where basically everyone did and there is no reason to play the original anymore.
It's dumbed down exponentially, has modernized zoomer graphics and is beloved by Ganker and Reddit. What do you think?
Star Ocean is a pretty poor JRPG franchise in general. SO2 original is an ok game (the best SO)
I would say skip it. Obviously I haven't played this remake.
Try harder shill-anon, maybe you'll burst your own blood vessels kek
Its good, its one of those old style games where you get out what you put into learning its systems. New QoL makes it feel much shorter now that with the travel time and backtracking chaff cut with fast travel and being able to just dodge encounters.
This franchise only exists because of how good SO2 is. It's kinda funny how none of the other games get close to the same quality.
SO3 > SO2
SO3 > 6 > 2 (PSX only) >>>>>>> 2r
>the "I am a shitposter who hasn't play the games but am trying to fit in" list
I see
The other games aren't worth mentioning or playing. 1 (snes) is a 5/10 and 4 is possibly even worse. 5 is pure trash. Not even Ganker can defend it.
I'll take the remake over 2 because magic in 2 fucking sucks. It sucks so bad, and I don't even mean your own party members. Having to deal with an enemy with magic is the worst thing ever because they constantly pause the action and it made me dread having to get into battles. I shouldn't want to avoid fights in an action RPG.
Yet this game isn't even 2, it's a completely different game and has lost all of the charm of SO2.
Superior Kenny genetic line
Why wouldn't unmarried women be interested?
>buzzword salad post from homosexual who hasn't played the original OR the remake
the absolute state of Ganker
Modern Ganker refuses to play video games, they just shitpost and talk about shitty gacha "Games" all day long
i dont want to do the dimension dungeon or play the game again with rena
But you have to anon the fate of the world depends on it
space elf pussy
Chisato always reminded me of something out of Tenchi Universe.
Laeticia is overhated.
I liked her and her fat ass until her ending. What a ripoff
Her ending implied they are going to become much closer. But yeah, comparing to Marielle’s it was let down.
Bring back SO3 twist arguments. At least I can respond to people who actually fucking played it.
i traded in my copy to gamestop 14 years ago, along with my entire ps2 collection, things like valkyrie profile silmeria, shadow hearts covenant and new world, ys ark of napishtim, etc. they didnt want to take the slipcover for so3 so its in my closet somewhere.
i am sorry.
>Sell what's basically the Holy Grail collection of ps2 JRPGs
Some crimes cannot be forgive, anon.
pulled up my list of what i had from a 2008 email to a buddy
The Bouncer
Bully
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Drakengard
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Kingdom Hearts II
Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2
Legacy of Kain: Defiance
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Manhunt
Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shadow of the Colossus
Shinobi
Spider-Man 2
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Suikoden III
Tales of the Abyss
Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim
Who gives a shit? It's off-topic. This is an SO2 Remake Thread.
it's tangentially related and will allow me to make this factual statement: SO3 is Motoi Sakuraba's finest OST work, and he's been phoning it in ever since. It's literally his magnus opus.
I'd say that VP2 and SO3 had equally high highs.
While I like Moody Goddess, it's a different world apart from "In Order to Acquire the Light in That Hand"...
Jesus what the fuck was he smoking with the VP2 ost naming scheme.
How the fuck do I remember this shit.
Highbrow was unironically one of the worst final boss themes I've ever heard while Moody Goddess was phenomenal. SO3's soundtrack was a land of contrasts.
sounds like Highbrow is too... high brow for you. the latter half of that track is a prog masterpiece.
kino
Anon...
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Nta now while the first 50 seconds are kind of miss, from 1 minute in it's all thriller. You just have to suffer into the intro and bad sampling.
>and Origins
Oh good lord I forgot that released on the switch
But there's no way in fuck I'm buying anything else on a system that's likely going to have it's entirely library unplayable on the next generation of console next year.
I'd argue that Baten Kaitos and Origins are his best work, but SO3 is a close second.
>Baten Kaitos
It has great OST
I know that feel, I was a dumb fucking kid and would get rid of old games as I got newer consoles, I had so many games that are considered classics now.
The conclusion of the plot twist essentially boils down to "I think, thus I am." If you can't wrap your head around this, you're literally too dumb for entry-level philosophy.
Most of Ganker are 60 IQ shitskins and mutts raised by the US public school system. Of course they cannot wrap their heads around Descartes 101.
To be fair, people can understand the premise, and still think the way it's expressed sucked.
I highly doubt that. The intelligence level of this place is worse than reddit, and that says a lot.
My philosophy? I want to give Nel the dick.
If you think every piece of poorly written Japanese media that invokes entry level religious or philosophical concepts is automatically nuanced by virtue of having those ideas at all, then you're probably the kind of idiot who think Eva and Xenogears are deep masterpieces of philosophy.
He's not saying it's nuanced, he's saying it's simple, and if you can't even understand it you're dumb.
>he's saying it's simple
So he's pretending that anyone who didn't like it didn't understand the concept on a basic level? That's an ever stupider shitpost.
Pretending that anyone missed the extremely obvious point is ridiculous. You're exactly the kind of idiot that looks at shitty Japanese writing and assumes anyone who didn't like it just didn't get it on a thematic level as opposed to reality which is everyone who didn't like it didn't like the clumsy execution and hamfisted writing.
you actually think anyone thinks Eva is 'deep'. You're a retard fighting a strawman that never existed and is two decades too old.
>pretending no one thinks Eva is deep
You are the dumbest cocksucker alive.
No one had trouble wrapping their head around the concept. People hated it for the horrible implementation.
There was literally someone in these threads equating the death of all inhabitants of Eternal Sphere to a videogame character dying (literally bringing up the example of Aeris' death).
Yes, I thought that people were strawmanning "didn't understand it", but it turns out there really are such people.
>There was literally someone in these threads equating the death of all inhabitants of Eternal Sphere to a videogame character dying (literally bringing up the example of Aeris' death).
But that's true.
Welp, we got another one
>he's too stupid to understand
I can play this game too. Either refute it or sit your ass down.
>gets told
>the shitposter facade slips and he starts just insulting (poorly)
GG I win, no RE better luck next time kid LOL
ESLretards should all be rangebanned.
I agree, so be the difference you want to see and fuck right off
>I agree
Then stop posting.
>it just copied me
kek, as expected of a brown
Learn English, thirdie.
>more no u
how sad is it to get this BTFO, tardo?
>anyone who didn't like it
He didn't say anything about liking it. All he said in
was "if you don't understand it, you're dumb".
>whining about writing in a fucking STAH OCEAN thread
Are you legit or are you honestly paid to make these asinine posts?
that doesn't reply to what he said at all though so I guess he was right
>Ganker shits on Xenogears whilst defending an AI-generated SO2 demaster
EL OH EL.
>AI-generated SO2 demaster
you're really bad at this holy shit
And how the plot twist is presented is dumb.
Easily one of the best remakes I've ever played.
Why don't they put this much effort into their other stuff?
yeah it seems like they put more effort into this remake than in the last 2 mainline SO games
godlike ramake my only complain is the shit tier music
but thank god you can switch back to the original music
>is the shit tier music
that's interesting, I think the music is a huge upgrade
I know it's subjective and all that, just didn't expect that opinion
>I think the music is a huge upgrade
This is how you *know* it's a shill. No one could legitimately say that, especially with how good the original soundtrack was. Holy fuck lol
Today you learned what the word "subjective" means, and you're an idiot if there's no possible way someone could have a different opinion than you.
I think the music is legitimately better than the original, there was this overbearing echoey quality to the orignal that was a bit too much imo.
>Reddit the post
And yes, it's called a REVERB, stupid elephant worshipper homosexual.
>it's called a REVERB
ESL
Grow up. Someone has a different opinion than you
Sperg out more
And it's too overbearing even though I liked the music, you overly emotional homosexual
Don't know what's up with you and the elephant thing, that's out of left field
Then go play your new, improved slop, zoomer. And tell me again how you were "SUCH A BIG FAN" of the originals whilst you simultaneously shit on every aspect of the original game, and others in the series too.
I'm likely older than you, anon, and played it originally on the PSX in the 90's. One of my favorite games.
Seriously, listen to everyoen telling you to stop sperging out.
nta but I find some things to be not as good. Well Just two really
heralid emblem.
The other being Mighty Blow. Mighty Blow in this game is a massive downgrade in my opinion.
Incarnation of the Devil sounds amazing though.
Other than that I'm just waiting for the mod that re-adds the original UI sounds. The new ones are servicable but I liked the original more.
Is Welch going to run away with Celine? Is that what these hearts mean?
I love the remake music. It's good that you can choose, though.
Who doesn't like catgirls?
Was the original this ugly as well?
Original is also pretty ugly but not this bad
There's a reason why no one recommends Star Ocean in general.
Who the hell is Gemdrops? They're apparently the actual developers for this remake, and they did a great fucking job. The only other titles I could find from them (which is very few) look at most a quarter as good as this one.
Weird
Oh, that makes a lot of sense now
Fuck this game plays like a 3d tales of game with 2d sprites it's pretty comfy and the music reminds me of legendia. Very good.
SO1 is literally a Tales game.
I'm not gonna lie, I played Phantasia somewhat recently and I was surprised it had the short/long range combat stuff as well as quite a few shared spells. I know why it felt familiar, but it was funny to see how much they reused when they went to make SO.
>missing all the gaming discussion of SO2 cause I have no time to play this week
bros...
Well so, since this version has demonstrably worse music, worse visuals and worse voice work then the one I already own, what reason is there again for me to dump full price for this so-called "remake" again? The artwork for the characters is nice but it's not worth that price.
Don't buy it, and leave the threads too.
Ok.
Is Raymond's game good. I played the demo, but I wasn't impressed beside the flying stuff.
Yes. But there is a lack of direction and impact in cut-scenes
She's got the sex eyes going on there. I guess the new art does have some soul.
I was wondering why these threads didn't have the demented shitposting homosexuals that call every a shill and every remaster and remake a demake. I guess it just took them a while to find the threads.
It's literally a single guy falseflagging and posting bait questions off-cooldown. Just don't reply to him.
Nope. there's been at least 3 or 4 other people beside me calling out the ugly background art in this game. Then you shills flip the fuck out and start sperging all over the place. It's quite something to see. You know, not everyone has to suck Square-Enix's flaccid cock 24/7. It's ok, anon - there really is a toothfairy. 🙂
I hate most remakes and remasters but this one is pretty good.
Do you think we can get an SO3 remake/remaster if SO2R sells well? Kinda sucks having SO3 stuck on the PS2.
Possibly.
But given it's fully 3D and generally higher poly it'd require less work than a VP2 remaster but more work than this remaster took as you'd have to redo the assets or cheap out for a lazy "port"
Can you turn off the bloom and blur effects on the PS5 versions?
I've never played an SO game (always get mixed signals on what's worth playing and what's not) and had been looking towards this remake
I can say that it looks fun and I like the music I've heard and VAs but it's a little rough on the eyes, it's very bright at times in trailers
I swear SE has had issues with bloom and blur on another HD 2D game in the past and let you remove/dumb it down via a patch
Blur idk but you can turn off the bloom
Switch or wait for PC crack
switch hold you back to 30fps, 720p, and shit loads times
Switch, idk how long you'd have to wait and while PC ver is considerably better it's not THAT much better either.
If you're emulating the load times should be faster than on the Switch, resolution and FPS can also be better if you have a good PC
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH IT'S HOT OHOHOHOHOHO
>DON'T YOU THINK I'M VEEEEEEEEEERY STRONG?
>EXPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!!!
>SPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do the graphics play as annoying as they look stationary
Ah. No. It's a prettier game in motion.
It's got a free demo so you might as well try it out.
I run it at 120 and I have to say it's rather gorgeous.
Please use spoiler tag for EVERYTHING
actual women in these threads
>uh WHY should Claude be mad if his friend goes out of her way to leave him, help his foe in the tournament get a super special strong sword to help him beat Claude, and then misses his match?
>uh YEAH she can be mad as other females join HELLO
>his friend goes out of her way to leave him, help his foe in the tournament get a super special strong sword to help him beat Claude, and then misses his match?
Now explain why it’s bad
if I have to explain any of that to you, then not only are you a woman, you're a retarded as fuck one
Xeno gears remake when?
Oh I can't wait for Xenogears to get wrecked.
with SF adding in missing content, maybe there's hope they'll add in some stuff
I can't wait for them to completely change the story without Takahashi's involvement. 🙂 I love consooming product and/or service.
>without Takahashi's involvement. :
Cool. Maybe they'll call his wife and hte other guys at Square who wrote all the good parts of the story to begin with instead of letting him tie it into his shitty perfect works canon.
Go back to your Xenoslop 3 thread, homosexual.
Are you fucking retarded?
A 65 IQ shitskin is in no position to even be speaking to me, let alone asking questions. Go back and make me a hamburger.
I'm smarter and whiter than you. You can't even understand basic English. People who know Takahashi is a hack aren't the ones posting in XB3 threads, stupid fucking third worlder.
No, you're a sub-80 mongoloid and likely not even human. Imagine crying over Takahashi in a fucking shit ocean thread. Are you for real, mutt?
>Imagine crying over Takahashi in a fucking shit ocean thread
So the mentally ill underage shitposters are the retards from XB2 threads that think that pile of shit had good writing? That would explain a lot.
SF only added in missing content because Kawazu himself was spearheading the project. Monolith doesn't work at Square and I doubt they kept Kawazu amounts of design docs necessary to blueprint the game at Square.
And monolith for all the good it's done hasn't really been releasing... nuanced titles.
SO3 is a great game it's just some parts of it are a drag. The first 3 hours on any playthrough always threaten to put me to sleep
>because of Nomura.
Fucking time jannies, man. Like I'll buy anything that Hamauzu composes music for but holy shit lmao.
Square enix randomly uploaded this over the weekend and liked a comment begging for a remake
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they like every comment eventually. Sadly
Rena gives Dias some supportive head in between his matches. What's the big deal Claudefags?
>could've have chibis or some stylized characters
>pixelshit in 3d world
soulessness
i hate octopath traveler for making this popular, i liked it when only it did it
>i hate octopath traveler for making this popular, i liked it when only it did it
Thank you for saying this. I hated Octopath too and I think the visuals are one of the main reasons why. It looks jarring and nothing like the old 2D style SNES/PS1 era of RPGs.
The original was pixleshit with prerendered backgrounds, zoomie
>pixleshit with prerendered backgrounds
And? How is that a "problem", Ahmed?
it looks good
octopath 1 and 2 look good
triangle strategy looks good
live a live looks good
so2r looks good
dragon quest 3 hd will look good
thank god devs are still willing to make classic sprite-based games in 2023
>classic sprite-based games
None of the games you listed are that, with how much post-processing is shat out all over the sprites that MAYBE would've even looked good if not for that.
personally, I don't care for the visual of HD-2D. I'm buying these remakes simply because they're the old games repackaged and gives us an excuse to replay and shitpost about them
>I luv UE4
Yes, we can see that.
chibis are shit, are u dumb?
Star Ocean 2 got a better and more thoughtful remake than FF7
no wonder some people are furious enough to shitpost this thread
LOL
You're making me sad and I liked this remake. FF7 will never ever get a proper remake because of Nomura.
shitposting aside, I think SO3 is a fun game, and even if it's different from SO2 in large parts it stands well on its own
>nigga doesn't even know what castle he works in
I really hope someone got fired over this blunder. This is unacceptable. Patch when?
there's another near the beginning where Rena's voice actor says "Hero" which makes sense in context, but text accidentally says Claude
I've been playing in moon and I know what you're referring to. The kanji is 英雄 but the furigana is ヒーロー. That's just an idiosyncrasy of the language with how they ascribe meaning to words in some cases.
it's definitely an error. They are talking about whether Claude is the hero, she says something like "I'm sorry, I thought you must be the hero" but the text is "I'm sorry, I thought you must be CLAUDE" with the colors over the name etc
I'd totally be interested in an Xenogears remake, but I also still find the original very charming and enjoyable even 25 years later.
Same and it's my favorite RPG of all time still, but I would KILL for it to get a remake as lovingly done as this while the shitposters shit themselves bloody.
what do you think about the second half
this is a genuine question, I've only played about an hour of it
It's fine for people with above a room temperature IQ. For ADHD zoombies, however, it will be rough.
I don't care because even with it the game is a LENGTHY RPG still. FF 7 also gets away with two different info dump sections with no complaints.
When I read that it was either that or chopping the game into Part 1 and Part 2, I'm glad we got what we got.
Ewww, its so ugly! Give me my 3D realistic world grafix, redone soundtrack and rewritten, retranslated, censored dialogue please with fast travel and tutortials every time I press a button!
boomers shit they're pants over phone games even though this shit has even more retarded braindead gameplay and is 90% a bad visual novel with the most genetic anime characters ever written LOL
It's mostly paid shill marketers and zoomies defending this mess of a "remake", anon.
>Xenogears bad
>SO bad (except for this GEMdrop babymode "remake")
OH THE ALMIGHTY TRIA
FIREBIRD SHOCKWAVE
OVERTHROW ALL THE ENEMIES
HWOOO
DEYAAAAHHHH!
TRI-OSS (is how he pronounced it)
Sadly, all these memes are long gone now. nu Claude sounds like a whiny 12 year old. I assume Gankerirgins here use the Jap voices.
PEARS INTO PEACHES!
THAT WAS A QUEER GUY.
LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE POPULAR WITH THE LADIES AGAIN! (wtf Bowman, your wife is dead and you don't even care?!)
TEN SECONDS.
PIECE OF JUNK.
suddenly reminded of the TRIANGLE STRATEGY song
>I assume Gankerirgins here use the Jap voices
Well yeah. At least until someone puts in the old PS1 battle voices. Even if it disables all the other dialogue.
Claude is supposed to be 19 years old.
He did not sound 19 in the OG
Uh, most 19 year olds don't sound like 12 year old nerds just starting puberty. The original had deeper voices for the men in general, minus Ashton who was meant to sound like a faggy nerd. I wonder if it's a problem with males in general, having lower T and thus, weaker, faggier sounding voices?
It's within the range of teenage voices, anon. It sounded much deeper when you were younger, but if you have kids and listen to teens talk, it's very rare that it's deep.
True. As I said, most teen males nowadays are very effeminate and s o y-infused. No wonder so many turn out to be gay and trannies. lol
What's the best team?
Almost any.
I've been swapping my teams about for ages now and it's been fun.
It's hard to determine how the meta is going to shake up.
Late game Welch is probably tied with Chisato for absolute shitpushers now as they both are capable of just shitting out break and damage.
Chisato sucks now
>Chisato
>good
Uh what?
>he doesn't know
no, I'm thinking YOU don't know about the changes actually
Actually yeah I dont know. All of her moves are slow as fuck.
She was basically the best fighter in the original after she gets Tear Gas, but dunno about the remake.
Instead of spamming 10,000 volts, Tear gas and her regular attacks you invest in her sky high hit, toss her rising dragon into cartwheel, somersault into cards, and either shotgun break bars into nothingsness or dish out 10s of thousands of damage per second.
You could also go with the traditional of hyper stacking into + attack and normal attack enemies into dust.
Tear gas also while being not as good as it used to be is unbelievably good as an assault action, borderline caster tier in it's ability to strip break at the press of a button.
is this retard trying to make FF and Xenogears fags fight against people who like Star Ocean? Real Mental Illness Hours™
Diseased console warring nagger mind
I've been ignoring him. You should ignore him too.
Don't acknowledge him. Don't even vaguepost about him. Let him impotently shitpost in isolation.
xenochads, tell me the likelihood of a xenosaga port/remaster
0, not a particularly loved series and the dialogues problematic in 2022.
cant fucking spam TEARS INTO PEACE
they fucked the MP cost of skills
TEARS INTO PEACE
TEARS INTO PEACE
TEARS INTO PEACE
TEARS INTO PEACE
TEARS INTO PEACE
uhhh sis your double -50% mp cost accessories????
nah even then its not viable to spam
i remember in the original i could spam away like crazy
Imagine if Square put this much effort into their other remakes
I'm still mad about the Chrono Trigger port
Live a Live and Tactics Ogre were pretty well liked outside of a few issues. I hope FFT gets this level of care as well.
Actually you're right, Tactics Ogre was pretty damn good.
I haven't gotten around to Live a Live yet, need to give that a shot.
I hope they revert some of that overly flowery dialogue from WotL and hit a middle ground between it and the straightforward and sometimes janky og translation. And the shitty unnecessary name changes like Argath and Forlmarv
They won't. Those are now "official" (mis)translation names.
I don't care because I learned moon years ago as should anyone who likes Japanese media.
>Tactics Ogre demake good
lmaoing at the actual SE shills here
Remember not to feed the shitposter kids
Live A Live would've been great if not for how badly they censored it.
They completely fucked up the visuals but the redone soundtrack was good and the gameplay changes were a general improvement.
>They completely fucked up the visuals
They didn't complete fuck them up, they just applied a retarded smoothing filter to all the 2D sprites.
>they didn't fuck them up, they just fucked them up
And no, it's not actually a smoothing filter, they went out of their way to remake by hand all the pixel art in a new style that just looks like it. Which is even more insane.
There's more to the visuals than just sprites. They fucked up the sprites. Completely fucked up visuals would mean all of it is fucked up, including environments, magic effects and UI.
>including environments
They did the exact same thing to the environments that they did to the character sprites.
I feel like you fucks would be defending the Rondo/Sotn remake graphics and redub.
there was already a rondo remake but no sotn remake
Sotn got a new dub with Yuri Lowenthal and Patrick Seitz instead of the old PSX actors. No doubt you all loved it.
I enjoy the original Japanese with Wakamoto, just like I enjoy the original jp voices in SO2 with Horikawa Ryo.
Yeah he's great, I agree. I meant for the english voices which everyone knows from SotN.
DXC in itself looks good because there was care put into the environments in making them work in 3D. It's no replacement for the immensely high quality 2D original but it's not bad by any stretch.
The revised translation of SOTN PSP is naturally better than the original's localiser fanfiction.
I own Dracula X Chronicles, and while yes it's inferior in Rondo in nearly every way imaginable, it still wasn't a bad game if you were an aggressive castlevania fan.
And Dracula's new third form was legitimately neat albeit a bit tired.
Also a few sort newish techniques for whip movement and the remix of Moonfight was very VERY good.
Listen to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8SMHJ24Vsc
Speaking of music, having the original rondo (albeit not the best version) and SotN attatched to the game was pretty high value.
In general I didn't regret my purchase, but I was literally weaned on Casltevania. I learned to read and write because of the manual for 3. So I might be a tiny bit biased.
All 3 are good, even the SNES version. Just good differently.
who fucking cares
the original dub is cheesy bad and memorable, the new dub was generic but gets the job done. x chronicles was low budget but plays fine, rondo is still a classic. despite this apparently you just had to stir shit because apparently this game angers you or something
Because it's 100% analogous to you fuckers loving this game. Same horrible, boring dub, same ugly 3D style graphics. That is why.
No one cares about the dub because if you're using the dub for a JRPG in the first place you're retarded
I thought Octopath was ugly, but this is like next level ugly KEK
>no new IP
sad
stop talking about this game or I'm going to cry
>actually keeping track of the IP count
touch grass
>shitposting retarded newfag doesn't know what the numbers in the lower right hand corner mean
LOL
there's an IP counter there, the one I fucking mentioned you dolt, and you still need to actively pay attention to them and keep track of whether they changed with a new post, which is absolutely a terminally online behavior
>he doesn't use Ganker X
>he's still pretending he knew about the corner numbers
HAHAHAHAHA EXPOSED
>Ganker X
like I said, touch grass
GankerX is often inaccurate on new IPs anyway, which is why you sometimes see schizo chains as above.
SE-shills are just grasping at whatever straws they can, as always. They probably took a big paycut after XVI failed so hard.
>Not a new IP
What causes this level of mental illness? Sad.
PSP JP cast is my choice. Better Claude, better Ashton, and BEST PRECIS
Is Leon any good or does Celine outclass him?
He has a cute penis. So yes, he's better than celine
>IC and guilds were revamped
>you can literally learn ANYTHING right at fucking Krosse
what the fuck
are the star ocean games worth playing if i only care about impregnating space elves?
every female party member in 2 is thirsty for your dick (except Rena but shes a bitch anyways)
>isn't thirsty for cock
>only one who canonically gets impregnated
>Tactics Ogre Remake BAD
>spamming archers GOOD
you can tell when the shitposters don't play the games they are attempting to talk about
>4 skill limit
>broken card RNGfest
>smearing shit all over the sprites
>"good"
at least they sort of fixed the crafting, i'll give them that
>he can't play a real tactics game because he can't overlevel and spam archers any more
FILTERED
>he still has to resort to his archer strawman because he can't address any of the actual points I made
>skills that didn't need to be skills
heavily debatable, offloading some of the shit to equipment was a neat idea, but it still felt limiting more than anything
>4 skill limit
Which was achieved by removing skills that didn't need to be skills. You really don't play the games you shitpost about, do you?
>4 Skills
Yeah because I don't have to waste my skill slots on Counterattack, Parry, Swiftfoot, Tactician, Strengthen as well skill tax like having to waste an entire fucking skill slot on the ability for my mages to cast magic (per type).
>Cards
Strength/Magic/Crit Cards are heavily neutered by simply using debuff items.
Damage formula in the game also operates on thresholds so if you fail the meet the thresholds then they don't really help. Better off trying to beat element or using finishers instead.
MP Generation eventually solves itself once you can craft fruits and the +100 MP Staves.
The thing with reborn is that they didn't touch the bow damage formula from PSP. They were however indirectly nerfed because the damage formula penalises them heavily for equipment based defense and everyone can equip more compared to PSP. This causes them to become incredibly volatile where squishies are always taking damage but heavy armor units go from 1 to actual damage if you debuff them. Furthermore, a thing about archers that a lot of people don't appreciate in Reborn is that they're actually incredibly good at inflicting ailments during Chapter 3+ making them really good at controlling mages and Dark Knights. Once you get the set from PoTD and put it on a properly geared character, they'll be relevant again (for a physical unit).
The same threshold based design is what lead to the meme of "crushing" weapons being better on Golems because of damage type.
>Once you get the set from PoTD and put it on a properly geared character
J'ygla?
Yeah about that.
This character had about 250 stats also artificially pumped into her. So if you're intimate with the system I hope you're aware at how dire this screenshot was.
>Dark vs Dark
You're still robbing yourself of damage due to not having elemental advantage. Additionally, Blackmoor is notoriously bulky.
Factors guide when?
I should probably make one.
Not him but they did archers dirty to the point that enemy archers are also trivial in a very serious way. While mages just moved in and replaced their function thanks to how oppressive the player power curve is with access to rampant aura.
Dreadknights are a good enough bandaid but the option is usually between them and one shotting multiple units with the now overtuned berserk.
Though if the game did one thing good it's magic uber generics. But they didn't fix the bug that basically allowed you to super stack the mental stacks when body snatching so it's really easy to fuck up a bit and create an unstoppable uber. I had to save edit down the stats of many a character on my path to the ultimate Angel Knight.
How does it feel knowing the 'demake' is considered the definitive version and was successful and rated highly enough to cause FFT to get the same treatment?
I'm going to love playing it while you seethe on Ganker about it in threads about other games
The shill considers himself separate from Ganker, as demonstrated here.
Many such cases.
>the 'demake' is considered the definitive version
by you and your reddit friends maybe, OV is still definitive for anyone who actually cares about the game
It's just a few autists and a shitposter.
Second Story R is fantastic, and I'd like to see this developer work on some other remakes for Square rather than internal Square.
oh, it's Barry. Of fucking course
>finish Raymond path in SO6
>unlock nearly everything
>cool let's breeze through Letty's
>no ng+
What is this bullshit.
never played a star ocean game but enjoyed the demo and I've been in the mood for a classic JRPG. Anything I need to know before jumping into the full game?
No, now go play it.
Game ads used to be so good.
Do you need to play the first game or is this like final fantasy?
Sorta like final fantasy
The only thing relevant you get form the first game is:
>Ronyx J Kenny went on an adventure and became a decorated and highly respected man
Each game is standalone but happens in the same universe with some character bloodlines and connections spreading outwards and some background lore that might pop up but don't really matter much. Big thing to know is that these aren't very long games, but have a bunch of different character endings and events to mess with, and in this game in particular lots of different ways to level your characters, gain money, customize items and gear, a very "create your own playthroughs" kind of deal.
Not even remotely comparable. Plus most people here are probably playing in JP voices because the PSP dub was so generic, like how no one seems to be using the PSP moeblob art.
>move from shitting on SO3 to shitting on to shitting on xeno to shitting on TO
we could be talking about plapping leon introducing Rena to federation sextoys, but instead we gotta talk about this shit
he's not getting bites so gotta keep trying to see if something sticks. It's not like he'll go outside ever instead
I bet opera has a fourth eye down there
Opera can make THREE bedroom eyes at you. Think on this.
>go on date with opera
>look deeply into her two eyes
>her third eye is checking her phone messages
Winking space pussy
WHERE THE FUCK CAN I BUY THIS GAME
WHO THE FUCK IS BUYING ALL THE COPIES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Feel the pain I felt
Suffer
Disappear
TEAR INTO PIECES
DRAGON HAOWL
I have two copies, but that's because one of them has a tear on the spine and I'm about to return that one.
Just give it to me
Industry is hitting a point where you have to preorder niche Japanese games if you want a physical copy.
Star Ocean isn't that niche
>i..it's...r..reddit...
lol you will never fit in, contrarian retard. Seethe and dance for my amusement and you hit reply; you just can't help it and you KNOW I'm talking to you LOL
the new artstyle is great and some of the women look particularly hot but precis looks like a gremlin. i guess it's intentional though
Yeah the way her new VA plays the character is very different to how the PSP VA played her. She feels like she should have swirly glasses now too.
Guess that's why Precis is maybe the only one I find especially attractive. And Rena, I suppose.
rena looks good though
As a renafag of 22 years, this new Rena is the best one so far.
Honestly her old designs made her look like a school girl shrine maiden which was always kinda weird to me. This version of her socks and light shoulder armor make her look a lot more like someone that actually traverses a world filled with dangerous monster attacks while still keeping the maiden look.
i think all the characters are good looking with the exception of precis (i haven't played the game yet, only seen the art for the main cast)
pretty much this is a massive glow up the other characters look amazing as well
She needs to bend over and put her hand on her thighs.
Can you refight raid enemies, or is it just once?
seems to be just once.
I've made saves before each of the wiseman fights and each of the raids just in case i want to revist them before my next playthrough.
when do I find raids
Get the ability to Call Bunny. Search the continents and climb over mountains for giant monsters. Fight.
I unfortunately missed two of them on Expel because I forgot when certain things happened in the game, and couldn't return to them.
I'll just get those two on a second playthrough, there's a New Game Plus now anyway.
You can go back to Expel
I thought you could return to most things in excel
How do you break the 9999 damage cap?
You get a manual to unlock a new combat skill after an achievement for dealing a certain amount of total damage, I got it early in Nede
honestly looking back, I can't really say the remake's new 3D environments are a downgrade in any way besides some of the atmosphere. SO2's prerendered backgrounds were incredibly low budget, like noticeably so. there's a charm to it but it meant a lot of towns and areas straight up looked like baby's first town shapes in a 3D rendering program.
As much as I love the PS1 pre-rendered look, with a little more work on the shaders and textures I think this style of low poly with some fixed camera angles could surpass it. I'd kill for a high effort remake of Digimon World with that style.
They're mostly great but there are a few areas where they're downgrades. The common issue is that the cities feel significantly smaller since there are no loading zones separating areas so the entire cities are now just a walkable area of a few buildings and two or three streets. The other issue is that a few specific locations look rather bland compared to their original appearances and the cinematography became worse as a result of using 3D environments rather than pre-rendered backgrounds with specific angles. The room at the entrance to the Wise Men's tower at the end of the game is one of the best examples of this.
>I love Star Ocean guys, meanwhile the original's shit, see how much of a True Star Ocean Fan I am
>buy this remake!!!
Really now.
all i read from you is whining
1. can you fuck that girl?
2. is the gameplay fun?
1. You can hook her up with your MC (or another male character) and they're in a relationship in the ending, but no explicit fucking during the game.
2. Yes, it improves on the original
amazing. I know what I'm doing after I finish Wasteland2. thanks.
How do I not filter myself out of Opera, I do not want the twink dragon head mage
>how do I not filter myself out of Opera
Don't recruit Ashton. That's it. If you stumble upon his quest select the dialogue that doesn't have him join your party.
Also do not run back after saying no because he will force himself into the party.
Don't do his sidequest in the Salva Mines, do all others until you find Opera
Pretty much unmissable now
>Rena gets jealous when Welch joins even thought Claude wasn't really trying to bring her into the party
>30 minutes ago Rena was ditching Claude to go help Dias
Rena is garbage.
Shota
>420 avoidance
Heh
Anyways she is the backbone of my team now. Didn't see that one coming.
Upgrading everybodies gear when I get to santa is going to be such a bitch.
that's all who I recruited, but I'm running Celine, Rena, and Welch in my group.
I was surprised how good Celine was for me throughout the whole game because people kept saying how shit she was in the original and PSP
the devs really wanted people to try her now by putting her weapon behind the new fishing
will this be hard if pic rel is the only jrpg I played?