if you look closely, it resembles some kind of combat vest. It looks like it sloops down just low enough to protect the most important part of a daring space hero. HIS BALLS.
I just don’t like how they mirrored the sprite when he runs. The past games don’t mirror if I remember correctly. His red button/patch constantly swapping sides really, really bugs me.
Developers keep getting lazier and lazier. Shit boggles my mind. Stuff like that was ground breaking tech back in the day (see SFIII arcades) and can be implemented easily today. But instead they'd rather cash the easy paycheck.
>Can infinitely restock on items in dungeons with familiar and replication >Didn't realize until the final dungeon
That's funny. I haven't really been in danger of running out but it's nice to know
Yes, your free time will evaporate but once you get the baby on a proper schedule, you'll slowly regain your vidya time. Will probably take some time. In the meanwhile you'll probably want to nap in your own free time.
too late already, lost all my capital and i don't have a source of income. Next life maybe
also how the fuck do you get in early when info are scarce and everything feels like a scam?
Only no-life zoomers would ask something like this. >oh no, I have a job! I can’t just sit at home and play video games all day! How will I ever find the time?
You absolute fucking retard.
I work 20 hours a week but get paid 35 because of a weird quirk in my contract. If buisness demands it I would have to work more but Bidenflation means work is slow so I only have to come in 3 days a week.
I have nothing else to do besides shitpost and play video games. Also I turn 40 next month.
For people who played second evolution, is this consistent with the emblem in that game? I am almost willing to bet money that this thing used to halve all elements
So I'm not the only one huh? I bought my 4 and I don't mean to brag but I feel I had an encyclopedic knowledge of PSP and PS1 versions. And had the same thought of "Didn't this used to be half?"
Maybe a stealth buff since no longer do 2x 1/2 items give immunity.
>Maybe a stealth buff since no longer do 2x 1/2 items give immunity.
Maybe, but the elements aren't very good. It was half though I went and double checked.
Anyways it's dark, fire, and wind. The only element that really will see much play lower down is fire. Everything else is star water, and earth.
I'm sorta wracking my brain on where that isn't true and coming up blank. As a result I'm not sure if it's worth putting em on over colorless scarf as damage is far more easier to come by than defense.
It's better in post game because CoT spellcaster will ruin your shit and having access to AoE break option is amazing
Still, for the rest of the game, dogpiling everything with unga bunga is better, but at least you don't waste time on animation if you use them.
I found em useful in regular game. Early game celine can double up on fire rings and fire damage her way past all of her problems.
Mid game they finally get access to the good mage armor. Late game they get the maze spells so they stay current.
The calnus is there but all mention of Ronyx both in any epilogue (such as the Claude + Leon epilogue where your mother adopts him) and the sequel don't mention him.
So
You know
He's probably dead.
>Spend an hour grinding literally every talent from every party member >After I'm done, start doing balls deep into customization >Almost done, fail three 50% in a row. >Fuck it, I just went through a door, I'll do it again. >Autosave didn't actually save since before I started the entire thing, for some reason.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF At least I didn't luck out with attributes beforehand.
Never played a Star Ocean before and didn't realize it was an action RPG until now. Is there a first story I need to play first or is Second Story all in title and game that can be played standalone?
>Do you think they will remake 1 like this
Probably not. >Psp or switch version
The psp and switch versions are pretty identical, the only difference is that the switch version has more options.
play psp so you can use the savefiles on gamefaqs that will let you play on universe since the difficulty is dummied out otherwise. >From Tzepish (12/26/2008; 757KB) >Load from these saves for access to the higher difficulty modes that were dummied out of the game. >Slot29: Starts a New Game on Galaxy mode. >Slot30: Starts a New Game on Universe mode.
Is there any real formula to Remaking? Is it just a random crapshoot depending on how the three bars are set up, then the game picks from a pool based on 'em?
As I understand it, bars are just probability sliders to get things out of their pools when you reforge
Each factor belongs to 1 of the 3 and the goal is to narrow the pool to roll against.
If you're going for rare factors you should really make fodder you can replicate like pic related
If there's more nuance to the system than what I use when I approach it, I don't know what it is. I just kinda brute force it. Takes about 1-2 minutes per item to get the factor I want.
Understood, thank you! Any 'must have' rare factors? I've seen MP gain on crit and lifesteal. Are there any casting speed ones you've seen, or is it just maxing out Motormouth?
>What's wrong with you, running off on your own like that? >Don't you know how that makes other people feel?
This bitch has absolutely 0 self-awareness.
Nothing, I just noticed you localized the line, as in you didn't respect the original idea. Rena didn't ask a question on the final sentence, she's making a statement, and it isn't about how he makes others feel, but how he always has no idea how others feel.
It's totally fine, I just thought I'd point it out 🙂
Oh, ok. You're one of those ESL retards who doesn't really know Japanese so you don't know how to respect both verbiage and intent when translating into English and think the correct way to translate is to do word for word swaps that ruin how the speaker is actually talking. Those kinds of idiots are usually on /a/ so I wasn't sure what you were getting at.
>y-you’re just an esl >you don’t respect the nuanced VERBIAGE of my fanfiction
lol I’m sorry, anon. I didn’t mean to make you feel bad. It’s okay if you like making things up in your head when you find the ideas too simple
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are an ESL, and you don't understand the connection between the 2 sentences she spoke because all you know how to do is read each sentence in a vacuum and take it literally. If you're shit at 2 different languages then don't comment on how 1 should be translated into the other. I'm not sure if you're actually this stupid and confident because you just learned how to read basic sentences in Japanese or if you're shitposting for fun. どっちにしろ日本語で返事しなきゃ討論を続ける気はまったくない
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>localizer cope
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
that kind of retard is also why we can never have productive threads about shit localization. They're not quite JOP but JOP enough to be confidently wrong and muddy the waters constantly.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>2 troonslators in 1 thread
Star Ocean-bros...It's Over
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>don't know English >don't know Japanese >try to explain to people how to translate Japanese into English
What has to go wrong in someone's life to end up this stupid?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if you don't like my trooonslation you don't know English or Japanese
kek
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You realize he’s not the guy that corrected your terrible jap, right?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You’re part of the problem.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You realize he’s not the guy that corrected your terrible jap, right?
Do you know Japanese? If you don't then stop embarrassing yourself.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>can’t translate N5 sentence without localizing it >still asks others if they know Japanese
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>absolutely seething trannyslator can’t stand being wrong
lmao let me know when you guys finish Kuro 2 >どっちにしろ日本語で返事しなきゃ討論を続ける気はまったくない
holy kek
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't samefag because you got called out. It's uncouth.
that kind of retard is also why we can never have productive threads about shit localization. They're not quite JOP but JOP enough to be confidently wrong and muddy the waters constantly.
I used to fan translate stuff and these retards are the reason that the nonsense dichotomy of "everything is either broken English Duwang or Commie localizations" exists.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>fan trannyslator thinks they’re isn’t more than one person who hates his kind
holy crap how did I know you were a fan translator lol
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Holy shit, you're an actual retard. You just ousted yourself as using google translate because that is not how anyone would say that.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's always funny watching people who don't know moon pretend to know moon and then get scared and angry when someone can actually write a sentence. Screaming about google translate or the JLPT while never daring to write a sentence on their own is usually the go to. Spend some time on 5ch and learn how nips talk in an environment like this. It'll help you look less stupid in the future.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmao dude just take the L
you just got called out
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>someone said you're a tranny and even though I'm too fucking stupid to know the difference between a shitty rewrite, an ESL literal word for word translation, and an actual translation I'm going to tell you why you're wrong!
Last reply for retards unless they can show they have any idea what they're talking about.
I go on 5ch and I can assure you no one has ever written a sentence that bad before.
Sure anon. And I'm sure you actually know Japanese, just not good enough to write any yourself but you definitely can understand anime and read VNs okay like every other eternal dekinai.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just admit you don’t know Japanese, so every once in awhile you fudge the words around to make them make a little more sense. You don’t have to feel bad. Most learners get a little overconfident in the beginning and try to translate before they really know what they’re doing.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I go on 5ch and I can assure you no one has ever written a sentence that bad before.
I'm at the endgame and something feels off, every boss is killing all my guys in 2-3 hits but I'm also doing so much damage I kill them before it's a problem.
This can't be the right balance, am I missing something I'm supposed to be doing defensively? I have the best armor I can forge/buy.
The game is balanced much worse than the original and it's actually quite a big problem in my opinion. The changes to the combat lead to even faster combat than the original had, doing much more burstier damage and combos from both players and enemies. I was absolutely loving it until it started to become apparent.
You're past the point, but a lot of people will pick pocket the Sprite's Bracelet on the limited time PA in the town that gets submerged with the NPC Philia telling people to escape.
It's not quite as important in this version, since you can find the Sprite's Bracelet on the Ell continent in a chest now, but it is a way to get it much earlier.
At this point, it's really only an important PA as the first step of a two-step process if you want to remove the limiter on the final boss of the game. It makes the last boss incredibly strong and you have to do a bunch of stuff to make your party OP in order to actually beat that version. Also slight dialogue changes surrounding that final encounter.
You can't do that until postgame now, you have to beat the boss normally first, then it'll load you in front of the final boss arena and unlock the ability to return to Expel and trigger the final PAs to upgrade him.
Will you anons bitching about localization this, ESL that just move on already? It's just going to be 50+ posts of back and forth between the two of you, and absolutely nothing changing.
It’s not too bad, you don’t have to do it innone sitting so unless you are godlike enough to keep knocking opponents out with pressure, you should get it within 15 or so fights.
I didn't pick him up, but his ultimate weapon that I got seem to make him one of the better one post game with high atk stat and really good abilities to have random damaging rose projectile whenever he uses special moves
Which voice track do you think is best? I’m playing with the JP PSP voices and think it sounds kinda dry. I’m super used to the kinda cheesy PSP dub and wonder if it’s just my nostalgia coloring my perception. Although I don’t usually think Star Ocean games have great voice work in either language. Another thing is how the dialogue seems more dry in Japanese from what little I can suss out by ear. Is this how fans of FFVI and Chrono Trigger felt when the GBA and DS versions dropped?
JP PSP is easily the best, you thinking it sounds dry is something I don't understand. The remake / PSX cast is pretty bad in general though, it kind of shows how it's 24 years on and they're having trouble voicing the characters and keeping their voices consistent. Remake Rena is especially bad, it sounds like she has no context for half her lines and had to just guess how she was meant to sound in them.
The English dub is just bad even by dub standards.
Using the English voice actors or "SO2SE". I wish there was a button or setting for a more cinematic camera. The camera likes to zoom in on action which is grat for emphasizing action, but sometimes I want to see things popping off without having to pause the battle to do so.
SO2R is a worldwide release. Those Trails releases are EN-only; the JP and Chinese releases came out earlier. And they also had fan translations for the Chinese releases.
learn to change your region or use steamdb dumbfuck
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Since you're so fucking stupid you need to be spoonfed, here
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1450080/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Sen_no_Kiseki_III/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/991270/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_of_Cold_Steel_III/
English versions came first.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't even understand what was said to you.
SO2 is a global release. All players using all languages in all countries are playing that same version.
The Trails players were split among different PC ports for different countries speaking different languages and all of those PC ports were delayed compared to the console releases.
One of those is going to have more concurrent players than the other even if the actual overall playerbase shares similar numbers.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't care about any of that. I was correcting the homosexual that thought the English versions came later on Steam when they were released first.
I don't really care about his Trails comparison. I checked some numbers like Octopath and this peaked higher. Obviously, it's not that clear though so I'm just hoping it did well.
I don't care if people think the series is mid, Star ocean was my GOTY for last year and this year. I'm going to replay star ocean 4 again. The character relationships in that were great.
Star Ocean is my fucking curse. I feel a need to play them all because I want to relive the feeling of playing 3 for the first time again. I can't stop myself.
>anon noticed that schizo is a game translator for NISA
I believe you actually believe the other things you posted, but how the fuck did you come up with this?
because you are an ESL, and you don't understand the connection between the 2 sentences she spoke because all you know how to do is read each sentence in a vacuum and take it literally. If you're shit at 2 different languages then don't comment on how 1 should be translated into the other. I'm not sure if you're actually this stupid and confident because you just learned how to read basic sentences in Japanese or if you're shitposting for fun.
this game is actually good unlike that pile of dogshit excuse for a tales game entry.
at least bait with a good tales game like destiny dc or vesperia.
It's an unfinished game.
Also nothing but walk and talk cutscenes.
And those escort missions as well.
It is probably the worst game in the series.
I think 4 is still worse but that's because the alternate earth part really pissed me off
Were all the Energy Nedians depressed nihilists or something. How about the Nedian children?
There are pocket communities of Nedian descendants across the galaxy that freed themselves from the guilt of their ancestors. Why did they have to do this shit.
I just feel like Nall got jealous of Dr. Lantis and wanted to try his hand at racial genocide too.
>How about the Nedian children?
Pic related.
Mind you, this child said that after just witnessing his own kin get massacred and vaporized by the Wisemen.
Energy Nedians are a menace. All the good Nedians were the ones that left their home planet millions of years ago and had sex with a bunch of other species.
They as a society had stagnated for 700 million years.
Energy Nede is a walled garden where the resident basically just live the same fucking lives they did 700 million priors, I can't imagine living in society like that and not wanting to just burn everything down.
I get that feeling all the time, and whatever this bullshit zeitgeist had only been with us for less than 2 decades.
tl;dr: space israelites had it coming, enjoy the shoah
It's a bit hypocritical since they were totally okay with letting Chisato and Noel go. And say what you will about the current elders and past generations, but I imagine the current youth wouldn't exactly be pleased about eating a universe destroying nuke because muh stagnating society with guilty past.
Bored with life in their artificial planet? Then literally go outside for fuck's sake.
Guilty with your ancestor's sins? Then use your current capabilities to make up for it.
They have been a civilization for 3.7 billion years, they reached their apex at 3 billion, then the outer system begin to chafe under their rule and decided to rebel, and this whole energy nede and wisemen situation come about
The Wisemen situation was 3.7 billion years ago, anon. What happened 700 million years ago was the weapons research facility getting destroyed by an accident.
>They as a society had stagnated for 700 million years. >Energy Nede is a walled garden where the resident basically just live the same fucking lives they did 700 million priors
Sounds nice. With the break neck speed society keeps changing reality, I'd like to have a lifetime fucking break
On the other hand, the Nedian went from literal lords of the universe to just a fucking World Fair Exhibition, and had to live in that fucking exhibition for 700 million years.
Like it's the kind of shit they would make Twilight Zone episode out of
What even is the story for that? EN exists because they feared for retaliation from the outer system after losing their entire military force to the wisemen, but I can't imagine any other reason why someone else would do the same on another system entirely
But then again, they are space elves, and we all know what happens to elves when the lesser race decided to rebel, so maybe all of Nedian world just decide to hunker down and not get raped
Looking at the Dictionary Entry for the Morphus in SO4 >The name of the race of people who hail from Bacchus's homeworld. Similar in shape to Earthlings (cybernetic bodies like Bacchus's are not the norm), the Morphus are descended from a group who call themselves "observers of space." They departed on an eternal journey over three billion years ago, distressed by their crumbling fortunes and a war-torn universe following a rebellion on their home planet. Highly advanced scientifically, the Morphus deliberately avoid cultural and historical interference, preferring to work behind the scenes to resolve pressing issues in outer space. They never discuss their home planet or their ancestors.
They're literally just Energy Nedians without the desire to fucking kill themselves. I'm sure they had some spare energy to even at least warp the Energy Nedian children away. Nall really just wanted to do a Space Elf holocaust.
You'd think Rena would have bit more trauma after seeing the remnants of her race being entirely annihilated save for just her and two other blokes that were randomly let free.
How is this game gameplay wise? I hear SO 1 & 2 are the best in the series. My first Star Ocean was Divine Force. It was alright, but not good enough to be worth the time I put into beating it.
SO2 has a good "fuck em' up" feel to combat. Particularly if you have 4 melee characters going ham at once. Everyone just charges in and beats the living shit out of monsters. It's so satisfying but dumb, like a fireworks display.
Then you'll spend 30 minutes to an hour fucking around in item creation menus and fiddling with skill point distributions. Then you indulge in the little snippets of the plot the game provides before jumping back into a dungeon or the world map to fuck up more shit. Given the level of cheese available to the player, it's quite easy to render the game a cakewalk on even the highest difficulty. You're free to break the game as much or as little as you wish. I recommend setting your own difficulty by limiting the use of certain item-creation skills and various cheese tactics.
Does the remake have all the absolute bullshit of the original? Like the pickpocketing RNG and the fact you could make an endgame weapon to steamroll the game with crafting the right material at the right time?
Hell it's got even more bullshit. You can put a 20% HP drain on that weapon you mentioned and combine it with bloody armor to solo the entire game with ease.
Any refactor guru know what attribute gather the stars is on? Someone told me support but I've literally never seen it over 100's of refactors on weapons and armors.
What I use is to get 3 masterwork claw type weapon as fodder to fish for crit, and 2 literal fish to reduce the other stats, do 2-3 other way around if you want to completely remove the possibility of other factor type since 3-2 gives you like 5% or so of other factor popping out
Fodders I use
Special: fishes, nede has vendor for shrimp if you don't have a bunch laying around
Support: failed items, i have shitton of blurry photos from duping forged medals and remake fodder, but everything else like pebbles and scrap papers should work too
Stat: have yet to roll for stat on any of my gear, don't know
What I use is to get 3 masterwork claw type weapon as fodder to fish for crit, and 2 literal fish to reduce the other stats, do 2-3 other way around if you want to completely remove the possibility of other factor type since 3-2 gives you like 5% or so of other factor popping out
Fodders I use
Special: fishes, nede has vendor for shrimp if you don't have a bunch laying around
Support: failed items, i have shitton of blurry photos from duping forged medals and remake fodder, but everything else like pebbles and scrap papers should work too
Stat: have yet to roll for stat on any of my gear, don't know
Different anon, si gathering by the stars only 20% or will each piece give 20% for a total of 60% (and then presumably have it on all gear slots not devouted to drain).
Further I think I found a better special method, brass knuckles, sit in salva by the merchant buy them, customize them on bowman with star rubies for blazing knuckles which satisfy the higher end req, then put 4 more brass knuckles inside.
gathering of stars is 20% only, but it gets you 4 20% boost with only 3 slots (it's 5 stat, but nobody uses both ATK and INT) It's also the only way to get 20% ATK on non-weapon slot.
I don't have bowman, and happened to ran across a claw that i can replicate and give masterwork.
I'm retarded you can't just use knuckles you do have to use fish... Uhh whats the best way to get paste or w/e it's called.
The item shop in Centropolis sells shrimp, and AFAIK you can only get the paste by trading large to the fish collector, she's in L'Aqua once you're in Nede
>who the fuck are the Ten Wise Men exactly
Nedian Space Marines.
>why did the last one want to destroy the entire universe
Nedian Space Politics killed his daughter, so he effectively turned himself into the last Nedian Space Marine and went to destroy the universe that took his daughteru's life.
>Nedian Space Marines
That's the most hilariously succinct way I've seen someone describe the Wisemen. And it's not exactly wrong.
You'd think the huge size you see them take are just the usual Final Fantasy shit of enlarging the enemies for display purposes, but no, they actually are that huge even in-universe. They're swole as fuck genetically engineered super soldiers.
How would she be gaining weight on a cross continent trip where you have to walk everywhere? On a 50 mile trek I did earlier this year I lost like 4 lbs and I was constantly eating. Also, inb4 inflation porn.
So I heard Ashton is best with Precis for reasons, so I guess Opera and Ernest are best together, and Bowman would be a nice optional pickup too if going that route
She made a really bad first impression on me since her equipment is dogshit unless you rush Customization ASAP, but she really picks up speed. Rapid Flick and Slappity Slap are ludicrously spammable and eat through enemy shields like crazy. She definitely suffers from Bonus Character Syndrome in that she barely has any PAs and doesn't say anything in story events, though.
>make a cool old man samurai type >he's the shittiest mage in a series known for mages for being absolute shit
At least the Cliff-lite woman was pretty good.
I like Chisato, I don't care if you get her later in the game. She seems like a fun girl and her hair is short so you don't have to worry about it getting in your eyes when she's riding your dick.
Did anyone get that PA where they imagine what type of character they all would be in a school setting?
I don't remember the party composition for that.
Its one of those PAs that has many variations depending on who are in your roster. I think its only requirement is that you have a full party of 8 people.
Claudebros, does Mirror blade suck dong now? It doesn't proc extra attacks or stars from the ultimate weapon, it's slow, it costs 50 MP, and even upgraded to max I do more damage spamming attack.
In fact, the only good combo I have on Clade right now is ->Sword of Life + Sword of Life. Anyone find anything decent?
Claude has always been an unga bunga retard with Aeterna, just stack up the extra attack and spam normal if your goal is optimized play, or don't and have an AI with "don't use SP" strategy pilot him
Did you pickpocket any instruments? That's one skill I didn't really bother with until around Linga, but all I had access to were the Harmonica, the Cembalo, and I think the Organ.
I've been abusing the fuck out of orchestra since Lacuer
and to be more useful although I don't remember where, here's what I have as of after the Tournament of Arms, and yeah, it may have been a pickpocket but I FEEL like it was a challenge or guild reward.
>Bodyguard + Scouting (look for more enemies) + Music (attract enemies) + Training >Walk in a circle for three minutes and gain 10 levels.
I love how busted even this version is.
I can't tell if Ernest is good or not. By the time he finally joined, combat had already completely devolved into a mess of effects and I don't know what the fuck is going on most of the time.
Not at all. 2 has only a tangential connection to 1. All the games in the series follow the "Make slight references to each other but never a full-on continuation of a previous story" method of sequels.
Not at all. 2 has only a tangential connection to 1. All the games in the series follow the "Make slight references to each other but never a full-on continuation of a previous story" method of sequels.
Waited so long for the damn translation. It came out but its just too dated for me. I used to check translation sites all the time. I remember one of the big groups had it listed as in progress for like a decade and those homosexuals probably kill interest in translating it for all that time.
>I remember one of the big groups had it listed as in progress for like a decade and those homosexuals probably kill interest in translating it for all that time.
There's this weird fucking thing in the fan translation community. If someone else is already announced they're working on something, no one else is allowed to. It doesn't matter if there's been no updates for five years, they'll go rabid if someone tries to step in and do it themselves.
>Switch version has long battle transition load times (5-8 seconds) while it is instant on PC
oof, guess I'll pass on the game then. A shame it looked interesting
fwiw my load times on emulator were faster than that for sure, just put the files on an SSD
If you have a good graphics card you can also run it at higher FPS and resolution
I get that, but for a new feature they added, I think this is one of the most sticking point where I actually felt inconvenienced
This is made worse when you realize how much you need to fucking use it to pimp out all your character factors. Only real saving grace is that same factor/no factor item stacks, so you can at least run up to 10 rerolls at time when fishing for factors...assuming the item in question is farmable or replicable
I get that, but for a new feature they added, I think this is one of the most sticking point where I actually felt inconvenienced
This is made worse when you realize how much you need to fucking use it to pimp out all your character factors. Only real saving grace is that same factor/no factor item stacks, so you can at least run up to 10 rerolls at time when fishing for factors...assuming the item in question is farmable or replicable
I'm glad we're getting to this point pretty soon instead of the banal "IT'S A COMPLETE AND TOTAL UPGRADE MAKES THE ORIGINAL OBSOLETE" shit that has been going around.
Retard, go play the original again and watch a 20 second cutscene while crafting 1 iron into a worthless necklace with no factors.
This dumbfuck is literally just waiting for somebody to say anything he can shitpost about because he doesn't know anything about the original and the remake KEK
For all I’m bitching about the Remaking UI, it’s still less painful than most of the thing in the original/psp
I did a playthrough of Second Evolution last year or so. It took me like 6 hours on a weekend reloading save so I can finally make a green upgrade for Opera. Took me like 10 mins to get all Precis and Opera upgrade in this remake.
Fuck, even doing factors with just 1 item, it wouldn’t take me more than 15 mins of reloading to get the one I want. It’s just that there are a lot of busywork selecting the materials for the process.
>There have to be a way where you can just select 5 ingredient in one window instead of going back and forth each slot
anon... why are you using 5 ingredients when you could just use 1 remake crystal?
Even better if it's the last thing you buy so it ends up top of the list so you just press left once to add it for fast menuing
Shut the fuck about Trials I am not playing your dumbass game you fucks spam on Ganker at all times. Take your Reyn or whatever his name is shit elsewhere.
I downloaded the demo and got it installed yesterday. Was planning to give it a shot today, but saw I got gifted the full version when I woke up. Any reason to not run through the demo first, like for bonus stuff that carries over or something?
Will do, as Welch is already a horrific monster who is doing 9999x10 on her slap move. Can't wait until I can damage unlock her.
I haven't used the bloody armor thing yet, but wouldn't this and an MP steal weapon be better? you don't die if you don't attack, and Claude doesn't seem to have great moves anyways but is god tier at autoattacking
That and hp drain on bloody armor is easier to convert between regular and cheese strategy. When you feel like you don’t want to be too cheesy, then you can just swap armor and your weapon would still be something you would use
Meanwhile, if you have mp drain weapon and bloody helmet, and you decided that Vegh life ain’t for you, you would have to refactor your weapon because SP drain is way overkill on regular use case scenario. Even on character that is super SP hungry like Opera, the Crit boost factor that restore 2% mp and hp is still more than enough to keep her topped up through chain battles
I did not pick him up, but I noticed his new post game weapon has a special effect that has 25% chance of granting reraise when using Symbology on allies
I thought that was pretty legit, but then I realize he has no angel feather.
I guess he might be decent if you’re running a very low power run and zombie strategy is used.
I mean even his old niche of being a healer on bloody armor strategy is gone when you can just use factor to add 20% hp drain on weapons
Though that more or less affect even Rena in term of obsoleting healer, but you can still tag her in to
Angel Feather from Assault Formation
>but you can still tag her in to >Angel Feather from Assault Formation
yeah which is why I wanna try him out. You lose nothing, basically. I'm not impressed with nuRena much so far
There are other sources of Angel Feather, so it basically boils down to >Can Noel comfortably keep the team alive >Are his offensive spells good enough to supplement the rest of the team
I've seen some people in these threads say that 6 is the closest to 2 in its design philosophy
How is it in terms of gameplay systems like crafting, how's the combat and difficulty balance? I really enjoyed Universe in this one where it's pretty hard, but gives you a million ways to break it
I know barely anything about it because the trailer and artstyle really didn't grab me
Having played 2 for the first time, i just realized they're really pandering to nostalgia fags with 6. They even have similar scenes.
That scene where Marielle first shows up is also similar to Maria in 3.
Yeah, it's the all star of star ocean. The maverick is also there, even SO5 had references. The villains literally namedrop the kennys. It's the game the connects every single SO game to each other.
guess it doesn't matter because men can't wear it, and neither can Precis because she's too young and bratty to have pierced ears
into the trash she goes
>Can use original Japanese VAs >Immediately go to Rena being voiced by Aya Hisakawa
Absolutely perfect. Kinda wish there was a way to unlock the original English dub. Ernest's voice was a fucking work of art with how goofy it was.
Got a SO1 (FDR specifically) question, I've picked up Cyuss accidentally and now it just makes sense to take Phia as well. I know I want Pericci for that bnuuy and that leaves one free slot for either Welch or T'nique (probably Welch). What choices and what "route" should I take to make sure I see as much content as possible while still conforming to the party setup I chose (e.g. not accidentally getting someone forced into my party or kicked out permanently). I am currently on my first visit to Astral City after dealing with the doppelganger, getting ready to leave to either Purgatorium or "other towns" (which to choose here btw?)
You need a specific party formation to get someone removed permanently and you've already got the one that doesn't. In terms of party specific content, I don't recall Cyuss and Phia haven't too much, the guy you get instead of Cyuss knows like 70% of the NPCs you run into though.
SO1 is short, about 15 hours or so, you can quickly do a playthrough with the members you missed afterwards.
Since he's going to absolutely eviscerate anybody within spitting distance of him, use melee with ranged attacks. Claude Sword Bomber is more than adequate to stay away from those fucking rings.
After that, raise def, get half/null elemental resistances on spells he casts so you can stop worrying about them, and slowly beat him to fucking death.
Keep him staggered with combos and hope for the best
He traumatized me as a kid. I'm almost sure I accidentally unlocked his limiter back then so he was nearly impossible for my little boy self
regular or limitless?
Finally got him with blood armor + spamming healing items.
Fuck this.
Keep him staggered with combos and hope for the best
He traumatized me as a kid. I'm almost sure I accidentally unlocked his limiter back then so he was nearly impossible for my little boy self
How the fuck am I supposed to beat the post game SOLO arena with the wise men gauntlet that ends with gabriella
I'm lvl 255 with every skill and battle skill maxed out, but they're kicking my ass
Customize more I'd assume
I'll let you know what strategy I use when I get there. I'm taking the 'slower' path through CoT and levelling in general so I still probably have another few days before I cap out and run CoT a buncha times.
bodyguard + scout + ring of avoidance on floor 4-5 (the scum enemies) will get you to level 255 in like 5 minutes, you don't even need scum slayer weapons when killing shit with bodyguard
>And thus did my journey with Star Ocean 2 end. I dropped the game, cause I don't like to play games that frustate me or are too hard for me (on easy). I did everything except the last 2 bosses which I will finish watching on YT. Sad this happened. Lowered my grade from 9 to 5.
I have a question, did they leave the requirements for Unlimited the same in remake? Or is she just bad at the game?
like the other anon said, galaxy can be played like a standard JRPG just buying equipment from shops and using what you find
I struggle to think how you could get filtered by Earth though, I'd imagine the AI just wins for you unless you're extremely underleveld
Galaxy is about as difficult as the older versions isn't it? I recall people getting filtered by Hispanicule all the time. No idea how you'd get fucked by Earth unless you miss basically everyone except for the bare minimum and refuse to keep up to date with gear.
You don't need crafting to beat galaxy difficulty.
You don't need a brain to beat earth difficult.
you have to be genuinely braindead to not be able to beat this game on easy mode
I didn't pull it out of my ass, there are people that are legitimately too bad at beating the game on Earth.
https://twitter.com/Nanayuna__/status/1721659110507032645
To be fair, the two last bosses are a huge difficulty spike compared to the previous ones and it required me to actually change equipment and experiment.
Most people won't even try that probably.
What is this Unlimited final boss?
How do you know if you unlocked it?
You can't unlock unlimited anymore unless you beat the final boss once. The PA does not unlock with the final save point, you have to actually beat the boss to unlock the second phia PA.
Noel only level 60 but early indication is that he's pretty good. You don't need a full time healer and he can still break a screen with his spells and he has an AoE lifesteal so he never dies.
We'll see tomorrow when I get him to 100 or so
It's fine-ish. 30 FPS, low render distance, significantly lower resolution, load times are not super bad but still long enough to be annoying. Still absolutely playable though.
Load times, FPS capped at 30 (but stable) and worse draw distance than the other versions
Emulating on PC can improve the load times somewhat, but you'll get the best experience with the PC/PS5 versions
Load times, FPS capped at 30 (but stable) and worse draw distance than the other versions
Emulating on PC can improve the load times somewhat, but you'll get the best experience with the PC/PS5 versions
Did they ever explain what these energy stones actually do?
I thought it simply turn them into monster. But this elaborate altar and ritual makes me think Allen had BDSM fetish.
sorcery globe corrupted monsters and shit so I assume they were shards from the sorcery globe and did the same to humans who found them (allen, marze symbologist)
So is Noel better now? I heard Ernest got buffed and can multi-hit now. Are Noel's exclusive Earth/Wind spells and any new equipment make him a good mage or is he still just a decent healer/mage hybrid
Get to Krosse kingdom. All skills become available at that point, so if you want you can craft basically whatever the fuck you want right there with enough patience
I dont understand how to parse her sentence. Is it like "enraged psynard levels? breeding facility!"
"Levels" as in wrecks/destroys/totals.
this poster is either an ESL or an American. I don't know which is worse.
Being Euro is probably worse than either of those lol
Euros are all ESLs.
Godzilla levels Tokyo
What would a leveled up Tokyo look like? What level is it now?
Anyone else think that Claude’s sprite makes him look like he’s wearing a weird onesie shirt over his pants?
I used to think Celine looked like she had a large nose when she was facing with her side profile.
He has this weirdly cut shirt in the concept art with the shirt drooping at the front
He peed his pants and then pulled out his shirt to try and cover it.
He has the same side slit in the remake
if you look closely, it resembles some kind of combat vest. It looks like it sloops down just low enough to protect the most important part of a daring space hero. HIS BALLS.
Should I go as him next halloween? I also weigh 350 pounds
You should go to the gym.
Do what you want. It's your life after all.
I just don’t like how they mirrored the sprite when he runs. The past games don’t mirror if I remember correctly. His red button/patch constantly swapping sides really, really bugs me.
Amen.
Developers keep getting lazier and lazier. Shit boggles my mind. Stuff like that was ground breaking tech back in the day (see SFIII arcades) and can be implemented easily today. But instead they'd rather cash the easy paycheck.
>unlock extinction
>only actually need 2 of them to end any fight on both floors
Well that's certainly a tiny bit more damage than I was expecting
...magic seems to be better this time around
It's better in post game because CoT spellcaster will ruin your shit and having access to AoE break option is amazing
Still, for the rest of the game, dogpiling everything with unga bunga is better, but at least you don't waste time on animation if you use them.
It's not. Leon is still trash compared to what you can do with a melee party.
It's not and I seriously want to know why this stupid shit has been parroted so often.
>need to use the cat twink instead of the booby hag
boring
She's got one too. It's just further down inside the CoT
Early game you just give her two fire rings and watch as she erupts the life out of the body of everything on Expel.
>Bowman keeps warning Claude not to fuck Rena because she's not worth it
>goes in one ear and out the other
Blue space elf pussy too strong.
I wouldn't listen either, Rena a cute and I'd help repopulate her dead race.
Build for Human Cock
No lewding the space elf
>Can infinitely restock on items in dungeons with familiar and replication
>Didn't realize until the final dungeon
That's funny. I haven't really been in danger of running out but it's nice to know
>You can savescum the bonus gauge
is this the first SO game to let you do that?
I thought most of you guys are 30+ y/o
How do you find the time for SO thread during weekdays?
I'm 32.
Between work and writing a book, I rarely have time for games anymore but I try to squeeze in a couple hours whenever I can.
Shitposting at work
Phoneposting at work
Disabled
I have nothing better to do.
31. I'm on vacation this week. I also have the ability to browse at work because my job can literally be dead sometimes.
you don't work all day and you have down time at work to phone post
back in grad school
also being lazy
Im a neet
I have time in the evenings. I am having a baby soon though so I assume all my free time will evaporate.
Yes, your free time will evaporate but once you get the baby on a proper schedule, you'll slowly regain your vidya time. Will probably take some time. In the meanwhile you'll probably want to nap in your own free time.
anon you have 2010 and 2021 bullrun
why are you still working?
don't remind me fuck you
failed both
got broke instead
seriously
get in early and for fuck sake pls take profit
too late already, lost all my capital and i don't have a source of income. Next life maybe
also how the fuck do you get in early when info are scarce and everything feels like a scam?
>if you’re over 30 you work 24 hours a day
Children are retarded. Jesus Christ how sad…
Only no-life zoomers would ask something like this.
>oh no, I have a job! I can’t just sit at home and play video games all day! How will I ever find the time?
You absolute fucking retard.
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i'm a neet virgin living in my childhood room, haven't gone outside in 6 months. Unironically
Lucky. Wish I could board myself up in the house for that long. The longest I ever get is 10 days when I take vacation from work
How are you holding up neet anon
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I work 14 hours a day, Thursday, friday, saturday. Free the rest of the time.
>not picking your own hours
Get a real job.
I work 20 hours a week but get paid 35 because of a weird quirk in my contract. If buisness demands it I would have to work more but Bidenflation means work is slow so I only have to come in 3 days a week.
I have nothing else to do besides shitpost and play video games. Also I turn 40 next month.
RIP they all died as he died
and then I got a fucking Dias weapon I can't use.
Should I reset it, or keep going? Claude went from 40 to 86
forgot pic
Does bowman still sound like he's shouting directly into the mic?
I’m about halfway through first departure but I’m getting sick of it. Can I just skip to this one? It’s still shrinkwrapped
First Departure is... really boring, the "main cast" is dull and the story is dull. I'd say go straight into 2.
sure, there's no direct connection between plots
the two hours of SO1 well tell you pretty much everything you need to know about that game for the whole series.
Which part? After the go to the past and then the mountain?
they*
after you go to the past, basically.
For people who played second evolution, is this consistent with the emblem in that game? I am almost willing to bet money that this thing used to halve all elements
So I'm not the only one huh? I bought my 4 and I don't mean to brag but I feel I had an encyclopedic knowledge of PSP and PS1 versions. And had the same thought of "Didn't this used to be half?"
Maybe a stealth buff since no longer do 2x 1/2 items give immunity.
>Maybe a stealth buff since no longer do 2x 1/2 items give immunity.
Maybe, but the elements aren't very good. It was half though I went and double checked.
Anyways it's dark, fire, and wind. The only element that really will see much play lower down is fire. Everything else is star water, and earth.
I'm sorta wracking my brain on where that isn't true and coming up blank. As a result I'm not sure if it's worth putting em on over colorless scarf as damage is far more easier to come by than defense.
I found em useful in regular game. Early game celine can double up on fire rings and fire damage her way past all of her problems.
Mid game they finally get access to the good mage armor. Late game they get the maze spells so they stay current.
Unless you're Noel lmao.
Noel might be useful on heavy casualties fight since his new ultimate weapon gives 25% chance to reraise people he uses spell on
Did Ronyx get brought back or not?
Vote now.
The calnus is there but all mention of Ronyx both in any epilogue (such as the Claude + Leon epilogue where your mother adopts him) and the sequel don't mention him.
So
You know
He's probably dead.
>Spend an hour grinding literally every talent from every party member
>After I'm done, start doing balls deep into customization
>Almost done, fail three 50% in a row.
>Fuck it, I just went through a door, I'll do it again.
>Autosave didn't actually save since before I started the entire thing, for some reason.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
At least I didn't luck out with attributes beforehand.
I am liking this boss theme (og)
Why is Nel ignored so much?
it's not her remake, yet
Limited dialog after the epin twist. Another reason I hate it.
Because Albel is superior
Albel is a proto-troon
I always wanted to buy her figure, didn't have the money at the time and now I can't find it anymore.
Maria is a better girl and Albel is a better "I can fix him" candidate.
I'm an Albel main
For me, its Roger.
Never played a Star Ocean before and didn't realize it was an action RPG until now. Is there a first story I need to play first or is Second Story all in title and game that can be played standalone?
Standalone, all you need to know is that 2's MC is the son of two party members from 1.
they're basically separate, just straight to 2
wait, why are you black?
>no 'ick on 'eck
disgusting
>35 hours
>no achievements
what are you doing? they give them for just progressing through the story.
That's data from how long to beat not his playtime
Do you think they will remake 1 like this or should just play 1? Psp or switch version
I thought they already made a remastered. First Departure R
>Do you think they will remake 1 like this
Probably not.
>Psp or switch version
The psp and switch versions are pretty identical, the only difference is that the switch version has more options.
Go with PSP, Switch has fucked difficulty. Enemies have inflated stats that range from 25% more to 65% more than the PSP version.
Psp with SPEED, moving through maps is SLOW AS FUCK
Is this so2 remake the same?
play psp so you can use the savefiles on gamefaqs that will let you play on universe since the difficulty is dummied out otherwise.
>From Tzepish (12/26/2008; 757KB)
>Load from these saves for access to the higher difficulty modes that were dummied out of the game.
>Slot29: Starts a New Game on Galaxy mode.
>Slot30: Starts a New Game on Universe mode.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/939439-star-ocean-first-departure/saves/18380
Is there any real formula to Remaking? Is it just a random crapshoot depending on how the three bars are set up, then the game picks from a pool based on 'em?
As I understand it, bars are just probability sliders to get things out of their pools when you reforge
Each factor belongs to 1 of the 3 and the goal is to narrow the pool to roll against.
If you're going for rare factors you should really make fodder you can replicate like pic related
If there's more nuance to the system than what I use when I approach it, I don't know what it is. I just kinda brute force it. Takes about 1-2 minutes per item to get the factor I want.
Understood, thank you! Any 'must have' rare factors? I've seen MP gain on crit and lifesteal. Are there any casting speed ones you've seen, or is it just maxing out Motormouth?
gathering stars will be used on all setup, crit boost that restore HP/MP would be useful as well
>What's wrong with you, running off on your own like that?
>Don't you know how that makes other people feel?
This bitch has absolutely 0 self-awareness.
>Don't you know how that makes other people feel?
Hello, localizer.
The fuck are you on about?
Nothing, I just noticed you localized the line, as in you didn't respect the original idea. Rena didn't ask a question on the final sentence, she's making a statement, and it isn't about how he makes others feel, but how he always has no idea how others feel.
It's totally fine, I just thought I'd point it out 🙂
Oh, ok. You're one of those ESL retards who doesn't really know Japanese so you don't know how to respect both verbiage and intent when translating into English and think the correct way to translate is to do word for word swaps that ruin how the speaker is actually talking. Those kinds of idiots are usually on /a/ so I wasn't sure what you were getting at.
>y-you’re just an esl
>you don’t respect the nuanced VERBIAGE of my fanfiction
lol I’m sorry, anon. I didn’t mean to make you feel bad. It’s okay if you like making things up in your head when you find the ideas too simple
You are an ESL, and you don't understand the connection between the 2 sentences she spoke because all you know how to do is read each sentence in a vacuum and take it literally. If you're shit at 2 different languages then don't comment on how 1 should be translated into the other. I'm not sure if you're actually this stupid and confident because you just learned how to read basic sentences in Japanese or if you're shitposting for fun. どっちにしろ日本語で返事しなきゃ討論を続ける気はまったくない
>localizer cope
that kind of retard is also why we can never have productive threads about shit localization. They're not quite JOP but JOP enough to be confidently wrong and muddy the waters constantly.
>2 troonslators in 1 thread
Star Ocean-bros...It's Over
>don't know English
>don't know Japanese
>try to explain to people how to translate Japanese into English
What has to go wrong in someone's life to end up this stupid?
>if you don't like my trooonslation you don't know English or Japanese
kek
You realize he’s not the guy that corrected your terrible jap, right?
You’re part of the problem.
Do you know Japanese? If you don't then stop embarrassing yourself.
>can’t translate N5 sentence without localizing it
>still asks others if they know Japanese
>absolutely seething trannyslator can’t stand being wrong
lmao let me know when you guys finish Kuro 2
>どっちにしろ日本語で返事しなきゃ討論を続ける気はまったくない
holy kek
Don't samefag because you got called out. It's uncouth.
I used to fan translate stuff and these retards are the reason that the nonsense dichotomy of "everything is either broken English Duwang or Commie localizations" exists.
>fan trannyslator thinks they’re isn’t more than one person who hates his kind
holy crap how did I know you were a fan translator lol
Holy shit, you're an actual retard. You just ousted yourself as using google translate because that is not how anyone would say that.
It's always funny watching people who don't know moon pretend to know moon and then get scared and angry when someone can actually write a sentence. Screaming about google translate or the JLPT while never daring to write a sentence on their own is usually the go to. Spend some time on 5ch and learn how nips talk in an environment like this. It'll help you look less stupid in the future.
lmao dude just take the L
you just got called out
>someone said you're a tranny and even though I'm too fucking stupid to know the difference between a shitty rewrite, an ESL literal word for word translation, and an actual translation I'm going to tell you why you're wrong!
Last reply for retards unless they can show they have any idea what they're talking about.
Sure anon. And I'm sure you actually know Japanese, just not good enough to write any yourself but you definitely can understand anime and read VNs okay like every other eternal dekinai.
Just admit you don’t know Japanese, so every once in awhile you fudge the words around to make them make a little more sense. You don’t have to feel bad. Most learners get a little overconfident in the beginning and try to translate before they really know what they’re doing.
I go on 5ch and I can assure you no one has ever written a sentence that bad before.
Just like real women
The art portraits in this game is really good especially the The Ten Wise Men
I don't remember, is Noel forced on you when you reach energy Nede or just having one slot open fine if you want Chisato?
You can reject Noel. You tell him to stay a nature man.
My boy Decus looking good.
I'm at the endgame and something feels off, every boss is killing all my guys in 2-3 hits but I'm also doing so much damage I kill them before it's a problem.
This can't be the right balance, am I missing something I'm supposed to be doing defensively? I have the best armor I can forge/buy.
I'm pretty sure that's just how it's supposed to be. The game wants you to use your items
Star Ocean games are simply "designed" like this. You put on the best gear and obliterate everything without thinking.
The game is balanced much worse than the original and it's actually quite a big problem in my opinion. The changes to the combat lead to even faster combat than the original had, doing much more burstier damage and combos from both players and enemies. I was absolutely loving it until it started to become apparent.
Any specific things I should go out of my way to pick pocket? Just got the thiefs gloves after taking the boat.
You're past the point, but a lot of people will pick pocket the Sprite's Bracelet on the limited time PA in the town that gets submerged with the NPC Philia telling people to escape.
It's not quite as important in this version, since you can find the Sprite's Bracelet on the Ell continent in a chest now, but it is a way to get it much earlier.
Hmm. Didn't see a limited PA there, but oh well.
At this point, it's really only an important PA as the first step of a two-step process if you want to remove the limiter on the final boss of the game. It makes the last boss incredibly strong and you have to do a bunch of stuff to make your party OP in order to actually beat that version. Also slight dialogue changes surrounding that final encounter.
You can't do that until postgame now, you have to beat the boss normally first, then it'll load you in front of the final boss arena and unlock the ability to return to Expel and trigger the final PAs to upgrade him.
Ah, gotcha. Didn't realize that. Thanks anon
Post game Gankerros, why is Opera's weapon so shit
>1400 atk
>special effect on normal attack
It's like they just don't give a shit
Meanswhile Mr.Dias here get a fucking Laevateinn+1 that always fucking crits
who is the most based party member and who is the most cringe?
Bowman
Ashton
Deeeeeyaah
Rena
Claude
Why is she so smug.
Why does she have those bedroom eyes.
space elves live for human cock
>my fan fiction is actually the signs of a great translator because it stops be from having to tell you what they’re saying
how long is the game i just got to ell and im like 12 hours, trying not to rush things but I feel like im maybe close to midpoint?
30-40 hours depending on how often you fast travel and skip enemies, plus postgame
do more private actions
Will you anons bitching about localization this, ESL that just move on already? It's just going to be 50+ posts of back and forth between the two of you, and absolutely nothing changing.
How do you get the re-creation gems?
second planet, unfortunately
I dont get how youre supposed to deal with boss super armor in the late game.
Grind harder
>Can't dupe any of the best gear
>Stuck trying to remake gear to get good traits one at a time with the godawful remake UI
Why isn't Chisato a spellcasting nerd/heal slut? I thought that stuff was genetically innate to Nedians?
Some kind of birth defect that fucked her spellcasting potential probably
not reading anything so i don't see any spoiler anything but this game is so fucking good it's incredible
I want more Welch content what other SO do I play
First Departure R
Star Ocean 3
Star Ocean 4
Star Ocean 5
Star Ocean 6
Star Ocean Blue Sphere R
>only playable in the remakes
kinda weird they didn't make a slap job translation for blue sphere for this remake
>Have to sit here and watch Gabriel cast a spell every second of the fight once it hits phase 2
I just want to play the game...
So far I've found the following new post game weapons
Dias: VR Expel raid boss
Ernest: VR Expel raid boss
Leon: VR Expel raid boss
Chisato: 30 sightseeing challenge
Opera: 80% enemy encyclopedia challenge
Precis: VR expel raid boss
Ashton: 100k points cooking master challenge
Celine: All fishing reward
Haven't found Claude or Bowman's, I forgot where I got Rena's
Precis and Dias' is pretty fucking insane, kinda disappointed in Opera and Chisato's though
>Ashton: 100k points cooking master challenge
Fuuuuuck thaaaat.
It’s not too bad, you don’t have to do it innone sitting so unless you are godlike enough to keep knocking opponents out with pressure, you should get it within 15 or so fights.
I read it wrong completely. I thought you had to get the 100k as the end score, not total points gained through the minigame. I retract my statement.
Is there an updated wiki for weapons somewhere?
Found some insane weapon for Welch last night but i couldn't find anything about it on internet.
Where? I still don't have anything decent for her and can't customize anything good for her either.
Not on my PC right now, but it's called Gutsy Stick or something.
I think it has 2K attack. Forgot where i got it.
I think last thread said it's from the postgame dungeon
how is ernest in this version? kind of want to do a claude run with opera, ernest, leon, bowman, welch, and chisato as my party.
I didn't pick him up, but his ultimate weapon that I got seem to make him one of the better one post game with high atk stat and really good abilities to have random damaging rose projectile whenever he uses special moves
Which voice track do you think is best? I’m playing with the JP PSP voices and think it sounds kinda dry. I’m super used to the kinda cheesy PSP dub and wonder if it’s just my nostalgia coloring my perception. Although I don’t usually think Star Ocean games have great voice work in either language. Another thing is how the dialogue seems more dry in Japanese from what little I can suss out by ear. Is this how fans of FFVI and Chrono Trigger felt when the GBA and DS versions dropped?
How do you change VA? Do you need a special item?
You can pick at the start of the game or in the settings menu
JP PSP is easily the best, you thinking it sounds dry is something I don't understand. The remake / PSX cast is pretty bad in general though, it kind of shows how it's 24 years on and they're having trouble voicing the characters and keeping their voices consistent. Remake Rena is especially bad, it sounds like she has no context for half her lines and had to just guess how she was meant to sound in them.
The English dub is just bad even by dub standards.
PSP is best. Dias is voiced by sugimoto.
Using the English voice actors or "SO2SE". I wish there was a button or setting for a more cinematic camera. The camera likes to zoom in on action which is grat for emphasizing action, but sometimes I want to see things popping off without having to pause the battle to do so.
Does anyone got a link to the ost? I find the new rendition of kamikaze to be pretty good.
So far there's a video of only the demo tracks
I think the soundtrack should be releasing soon, which should mean it popping up elsewhere
Shut the fuck up Scott
manic pixie dreamgirl
>Team battle - only women
>Reward: formation manual "rage"
I'm up to the point I wanna start getting good factors. Any tips for remaking that will result in the best factors?
>nisatranny
Seems like really strong sales and it's not a cheap game.
SO2R is a worldwide release. Those Trails releases are EN-only; the JP and Chinese releases came out earlier. And they also had fan translations for the Chinese releases.
>Those Trails releases are EN-only; the JP and Chinese releases came out earlier
Nope.
Yes, you fucking idiot.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1562940/THE_LEGEND_OF_HEROES_HAJIMARI_NO_KISEKI/
One game out of three, retard.
>steam is the only platform that exists
learn to change your region or use steamdb dumbfuck
Since you're so fucking stupid you need to be spoonfed, here
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1450080/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Sen_no_Kiseki_III/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/991270/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_of_Cold_Steel_III/
English versions came first.
You don't even understand what was said to you.
SO2 is a global release. All players using all languages in all countries are playing that same version.
The Trails players were split among different PC ports for different countries speaking different languages and all of those PC ports were delayed compared to the console releases.
One of those is going to have more concurrent players than the other even if the actual overall playerbase shares similar numbers.
Don't care about any of that. I was correcting the homosexual that thought the English versions came later on Steam when they were released first.
I don't really care about his Trails comparison. I checked some numbers like Octopath and this peaked higher. Obviously, it's not that clear though so I'm just hoping it did well.
Octopath was never even all that popular in Japan to begin with, was it?
I don't care if people think the series is mid, Star ocean was my GOTY for last year and this year. I'm going to replay star ocean 4 again. The character relationships in that were great.
Trials of Mana was my GOTY in 2020, and the story almost literally disappears late game. I love in kinks and all. Enjoy whatever you want.
SO will always be SOVL for better and worse.
Star Ocean is my fucking curse. I feel a need to play them all because I want to relive the feeling of playing 3 for the first time again. I can't stop myself.
Same. I pirate most of my games these days but end up buying both 6 and 2 R on launch.
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
>watched at the wheel
>2 lvls up
Huh? ok.
How do you use factor energy?
Game looks interesting but are there more games to these series on Steam?
4 and 6 are the only other games on Steam
tHIS GAME ACTAULLY WORTH $50? I loved the last star ocean but it has amazing graphics. It hurts me to pay $50 for snes pixel style shit.
It's still 20% off at gmg
If you're on the fence and don't like 2D shit then I wouldn't. I love it, but I have a lot of nostalgia.
But why did someone randomly start seething over kiseki in the first place? Confusing tbh
No one did.
>seething over kiseki
are you retard?
>NISAdrone is retard
*Shocked Face*
I simply don't understand why he posted the image then and why people are randomly seething over kiseki afterwards lmao
Its a xenobladefag always trying to cause fights betwern jrpgs
ESL weebs like to argue about translations. ESL weebs like to play and post about Trails games. Go to /vrpg/ sometime and you'll see.
I don't understand
Here's a tip: CTRL+F nisa
>schizotrannyslator exposed himself
>anon noticed that schizo is a game translator for NISA
>anons began to bully him
>schizo meltdown
>anon noticed that schizo is a game translator for NISA
I believe you actually believe the other things you posted, but how the fuck did you come up with this?
because you are an ESL, and you don't understand the connection between the 2 sentences she spoke because all you know how to do is read each sentence in a vacuum and take it literally. If you're shit at 2 different languages then don't comment on how 1 should be translated into the other. I'm not sure if you're actually this stupid and confident because you just learned how to read basic sentences in Japanese or if you're shitposting for fun.
What the fuck are you talking about
ESL weeb shitposter who's mad that he doesn't know moon. Just ignore him.
lol have a nice day, anon. I didn’t mean to make you feel bad. It’s okay if you like making things up in your head when you find the ideas too simple
I don't understand
>:)
stay in your shill thread NISAhomosexual
>Dias is stronger in the remake and Leon is still a shitter
Kinda makes you wanna play as Rena
What is the Star Ocean 2 of Kiseki?
None.
Kiseki doesn't have any good game
Trails in the Sky, no fucking question.
Good game before it went to shit later? Sky, I guess.
>falsefagging+boogeyman
classic nisaschizo
Rena cucked Claude
Gets plapped by Dias every time they're alone and Claude knows it.
It's just someone unmedicated.
Dias is too autistic to be fucking anybody. Best hope for him is getting raped by Chisato.
Rena fucked Claude
STATUS EFFECTS ARE DESTROYING ME
I am chalking this up to schizos tbh, none of it makes any sense and I don't believe the flamewar instigation angle
Can we go back to talking about Star Ocean
Fuck the Federation.
Why should I play this game over Tales of Arise instead?
this game is actually good unlike that pile of dogshit excuse for a tales game entry.
at least bait with a good tales game like destiny dc or vesperia.
how bad is SO5 exactly
I played it for a couple hours and it was... fine
It's an unfinished game.
Also nothing but walk and talk cutscenes.
And those escort missions as well.
It is probably the worst game in the series.
I think 4 is still worse but that's because the alternate earth part really pissed me off
Will Noel at least heal you when AI controlled this time? Maybe he has a place on a Welch reverse harem team.
Jesus Christ Nall.
Were all the Energy Nedians depressed nihilists or something. How about the Nedian children?
There are pocket communities of Nedian descendants across the galaxy that freed themselves from the guilt of their ancestors. Why did they have to do this shit.
I just feel like Nall got jealous of Dr. Lantis and wanted to try his hand at racial genocide too.
Guess they needed all that Nedian juice to make it work.
>How about the Nedian children?
Pic related.
Mind you, this child said that after just witnessing his own kin get massacred and vaporized by the Wisemen.
Energy Nedians are a menace. All the good Nedians were the ones that left their home planet millions of years ago and had sex with a bunch of other species.
>Were all the Energy Nedians depressed nihilists or something.
Yes.
Stupid Space Elves were taking literally any opportunity to kill themselves.
They as a society had stagnated for 700 million years.
Energy Nede is a walled garden where the resident basically just live the same fucking lives they did 700 million priors, I can't imagine living in society like that and not wanting to just burn everything down.
I get that feeling all the time, and whatever this bullshit zeitgeist had only been with us for less than 2 decades.
tl;dr: space israelites had it coming, enjoy the shoah
It's a bit hypocritical since they were totally okay with letting Chisato and Noel go. And say what you will about the current elders and past generations, but I imagine the current youth wouldn't exactly be pleased about eating a universe destroying nuke because muh stagnating society with guilty past.
Bored with life in their artificial planet? Then literally go outside for fuck's sake.
Guilty with your ancestor's sins? Then use your current capabilities to make up for it.
>Then literally go outside for fuck's sake.
They literally can't, the energy forcefield keeps the outside out and the inside in.
>Guilty with your ancestor's sins? Then use your current capabilities to make up for it.
That's literally what they did, they sacrificed themselves in order to contain the universe-destroying power of the symbol of annihilation.
>They as a society had stagnated for 700 million years.
3.7 billion years*
They have been a civilization for 3.7 billion years, they reached their apex at 3 billion, then the outer system begin to chafe under their rule and decided to rebel, and this whole energy nede and wisemen situation come about
The Wisemen situation was 3.7 billion years ago, anon. What happened 700 million years ago was the weapons research facility getting destroyed by an accident.
>They as a society had stagnated for 700 million years.
>Energy Nede is a walled garden where the resident basically just live the same fucking lives they did 700 million priors
Sounds nice. With the break neck speed society keeps changing reality, I'd like to have a lifetime fucking break
On the other hand, the Nedian went from literal lords of the universe to just a fucking World Fair Exhibition, and had to live in that fucking exhibition for 700 million years.
Like it's the kind of shit they would make Twilight Zone episode out of
at least there's EnII (energy nede ii)
What even is the story for that? EN exists because they feared for retaliation from the outer system after losing their entire military force to the wisemen, but I can't imagine any other reason why someone else would do the same on another system entirely
But then again, they are space elves, and we all know what happens to elves when the lesser race decided to rebel, so maybe all of Nedian world just decide to hunker down and not get raped
Looking at the Dictionary Entry for the Morphus in SO4
>The name of the race of people who hail from Bacchus's homeworld. Similar in shape to Earthlings (cybernetic bodies like Bacchus's are not the norm), the Morphus are descended from a group who call themselves "observers of space." They departed on an eternal journey over three billion years ago, distressed by their crumbling fortunes and a war-torn universe following a rebellion on their home planet. Highly advanced scientifically, the Morphus deliberately avoid cultural and historical interference, preferring to work behind the scenes to resolve pressing issues in outer space. They never discuss their home planet or their ancestors.
They're literally just Energy Nedians without the desire to fucking kill themselves. I'm sure they had some spare energy to even at least warp the Energy Nedian children away. Nall really just wanted to do a Space Elf holocaust.
You'd think Rena would have bit more trauma after seeing the remnants of her race being entirely annihilated save for just her and two other blokes that were randomly let free.
I can't believe that alcoholic can't even cook
Lorebros please remind me if the pact which forbids to interact with underdeveloped planets worked in 1 and 4.
Was it even a thing in 4?
I thought it was established after all of the shit Edge did
>Was it even a thing in 4?
Probably not because he freely visited other planets. I just can't remember for sure
>in 1
It existed, but a chad Kenny give no fucks.
>in 4
Didn't exist yet. Edge's homosexualry is what made them establish it in the first place.
The entire plot of 4 is about forced evolution bad, therefore UP3.
>only two bedrooms in the house
>Claude stayed in the next door room
Yep, he slept with Rena's mom this night
Well, he stayed at mayor house so don't pay a mind to my emberassing post
What's your names for the wise men?
>VR Boomer
Kek. Even his expression match with people who tried VR for the first time.
How is this game gameplay wise? I hear SO 1 & 2 are the best in the series. My first Star Ocean was Divine Force. It was alright, but not good enough to be worth the time I put into beating it.
This game isn't made for stupid gay retard homosexuals with no taste, so you'll hate it
SO2 has a good "fuck em' up" feel to combat. Particularly if you have 4 melee characters going ham at once. Everyone just charges in and beats the living shit out of monsters. It's so satisfying but dumb, like a fireworks display.
Then you'll spend 30 minutes to an hour fucking around in item creation menus and fiddling with skill point distributions. Then you indulge in the little snippets of the plot the game provides before jumping back into a dungeon or the world map to fuck up more shit. Given the level of cheese available to the player, it's quite easy to render the game a cakewalk on even the highest difficulty. You're free to break the game as much or as little as you wish. I recommend setting your own difficulty by limiting the use of certain item-creation skills and various cheese tactics.
Are people mad about being cucked by Dias on Leon's route yet?
Does the remake have all the absolute bullshit of the original? Like the pickpocketing RNG and the fact you could make an endgame weapon to steamroll the game with crafting the right material at the right time?
Hell it's got even more bullshit. You can put a 20% HP drain on that weapon you mentioned and combine it with bloody armor to solo the entire game with ease.
Yes.
what does the berserker ring do? i gave claude the ring but it seems nothing happened
Puts you in constant "berserk" mode without any drawback. It doubles ATK.
Is there any stupid shit like in 1 where you shouldn't max out some skills or otherwise you will miss some very usefull encounters?
Purity is something you want to do at cap.
each level add a percent of stats increase, so you don't want to do it at start of the game
How's the fishing minigame?
Quick, simple and fun.
MMO style fishing where you choose a bait, cast, and just press a button on prompt. No actual minigame beyond that
It just the usual click game
english, old japanese, or new japanese?
mid japanese
PSP version has Nana Mizuki as Rena
I'm surprised they actually managed to get the PS1 casts to voice the new lines. Especially because some of them sounded pretty bad by jap standards.
Any refactor guru know what attribute gather the stars is on? Someone told me support but I've literally never seen it over 100's of refactors on weapons and armors.
Special
What I use is to get 3 masterwork claw type weapon as fodder to fish for crit, and 2 literal fish to reduce the other stats, do 2-3 other way around if you want to completely remove the possibility of other factor type since 3-2 gives you like 5% or so of other factor popping out
Fodders I use
Special: fishes, nede has vendor for shrimp if you don't have a bunch laying around
Support: failed items, i have shitton of blurry photos from duping forged medals and remake fodder, but everything else like pebbles and scrap papers should work too
Stat: have yet to roll for stat on any of my gear, don't know
Different anon, si gathering by the stars only 20% or will each piece give 20% for a total of 60% (and then presumably have it on all gear slots not devouted to drain).
Further I think I found a better special method, brass knuckles, sit in salva by the merchant buy them, customize them on bowman with star rubies for blazing knuckles which satisfy the higher end req, then put 4 more brass knuckles inside.
I'm retarded you can't just use knuckles you do have to use fish... Uhh whats the best way to get paste or w/e it's called.
gathering of stars is 20% only, but it gets you 4 20% boost with only 3 slots (it's 5 stat, but nobody uses both ATK and INT) It's also the only way to get 20% ATK on non-weapon slot.
I don't have bowman, and happened to ran across a claw that i can replicate and give masterwork.
The item shop in Centropolis sells shrimp, and AFAIK you can only get the paste by trading large to the fish collector, she's in L'Aqua once you're in Nede
>You will never build your own space jonestown
POISON PILLS
best girl
I bet Marianna would be a semen demon if they bothered drawing her portrait
Ah I was hoping she'd get a portrait. I've always felt like she was supposed to be a party member at one point or something.
goddamn this looks like shit
no wonder theyre taking so long with DQIII lmao
I'm seeing a lot of threads, is it really a good remake? I haven't played the original in 23 years.
Jesus fuck I'm old.
Yes, very well done. Mostly faithful to capturing the original with lots of quality of life.
Is the PA where Ashton's dragons pick up chicks up on Youtube?
I don't remember any PA like that in any version of the game.
Was someone just making things up then?
Ok so who the fuck are the Ten Wise Men exactly, and why did the last one want to destroy the entire universe?
>who the fuck are the Ten Wise Men exactly
Nedian Space Marines.
>why did the last one want to destroy the entire universe
Nedian Space Politics killed his daughter, so he effectively turned himself into the last Nedian Space Marine and went to destroy the universe that took his daughteru's life.
Gotcha. Thanks, Anon.
>Nedian Space Marines
That's the most hilariously succinct way I've seen someone describe the Wisemen. And it's not exactly wrong.
You'd think the huge size you see them take are just the usual Final Fantasy shit of enlarging the enemies for display purposes, but no, they actually are that huge even in-universe. They're swole as fuck genetically engineered super soldiers.
>you can change portraits
Cool.
Is there any way to check which bonuses you got from bonus gauge?
Formation
eww. who invited this uggo to the party?
Shut your dirty mouth and show some respect to Marielle's mother
>mother
Off by a bunch of generations there.
wew, for a bit i thought they wouldn't let me say no way fag to welch, which would have been kinda shitty since they literally drop her on you.
I have spent a substantial amount of money replicating oysters with Welch.
after all why not
>Claude just joined my party
>died in the first 3 seconds
Is that supposed to be normal? Did I miss anything?
if you mean that Allen fight then he got mogged for me too. IIRC He's still only level 1 so it seems like an oversight.
>if you mean that Allen fight then he got mogged for me too. IIRC He's still only level 1
I see. Yes, it's pretty stupid
>Claude is sneaking out im gonna be stealthy and follow him
>CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP
Why is Celine so fat?
I wonder if the Japanese meme of violent reponse to being embarassed/accidentally seen naked will be me-too'd down the road.
CELINES FAT ASS ON MY FACE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
How would she be gaining weight on a cross continent trip where you have to walk everywhere? On a 50 mile trek I did earlier this year I lost like 4 lbs and I was constantly eating. Also, inb4 inflation porn.
All that built up mana from her heraldry.
>Celine is a slampig
Why are Opera's weapons so low in stats compared to the other characters?
do you HONESTLY believe a futuristic bazooka should be stronger than a sword
Ranged tax. Prease understandu.
it's to make her less retarded
Opera with 9999 atk does like 50k for every hit of megalauncher
So I heard Ashton is best with Precis for reasons, so I guess Opera and Ernest are best together, and Bowman would be a nice optional pickup too if going that route
If you pick up Ashton and Precis, get Welch too. Precis needs Ashton for a skill, and Welch needs Precis.
What skill does Welch get from Precis?
all target earth attack
>Claudes
>No sense of right and wrong
Kino
What the fuck man
Hows Welch? She wasn't in the original was she?
She's cute
She made a really bad first impression on me since her equipment is dogshit unless you rush Customization ASAP, but she really picks up speed. Rapid Flick and Slappity Slap are ludicrously spammable and eat through enemy shields like crazy. She definitely suffers from Bonus Character Syndrome in that she barely has any PAs and doesn't say anything in story events, though.
>She definitely suffers from Bonus Character Syndrome
I'm not disagreeing, but she feels more like a real character than Adray did.
>make a cool old man samurai type
>he's the shittiest mage in a series known for mages for being absolute shit
At least the Cliff-lite woman was pretty good.
I like Chisato, I don't care if you get her later in the game. She seems like a fun girl and her hair is short so you don't have to worry about it getting in your eyes when she's riding your dick.
But I like a girls hair getting in my face/mouth while shes riding my dick. I like it a lot. Then I like pulling it while I pound her too.
>didn't play the game before
>don't know which characters I want in the party
Just play the game and if they offer to join, accept who you think is cool.
Bodyguard is so broken, I'm just running around the floors the EX dungeon playing Vampire Survivors while I gain levels.
Did anyone get that PA where they imagine what type of character they all would be in a school setting?
I don't remember the party composition for that.
Nice, the exact same party I had on the psp version. I fucking love this PA.
I got it with Opera, Ernest, Bowman, Leon, Noel and Chisato.
Its one of those PAs that has many variations depending on who are in your roster. I think its only requirement is that you have a full party of 8 people.
hey naggers I'm getting a black screen on startup. It won't run. Steam version
I've got 2 win7 machines the game runs one one but not the other I get the black screen on startup
Claudebros, does Mirror blade suck dong now? It doesn't proc extra attacks or stars from the ultimate weapon, it's slow, it costs 50 MP, and even upgraded to max I do more damage spamming attack.
In fact, the only good combo I have on Clade right now is ->Sword of Life + Sword of Life. Anyone find anything decent?
Claude has always been an unga bunga retard with Aeterna, just stack up the extra attack and spam normal if your goal is optimized play, or don't and have an AI with "don't use SP" strategy pilot him
In most serious fights the boss would usually just sidestep it with their spergy movement so it was only good while they are staggered
Are there really only three instruments on Expel? It seems weird that you can't use Orchestra until Nede, but I don't think I missed anything.
I've been abusing the fuck out of orchestra since Lacuer
Did you pickpocket any instruments? That's one skill I didn't really bother with until around Linga, but all I had access to were the Harmonica, the Cembalo, and I think the Organ.
and to be more useful although I don't remember where, here's what I have as of after the Tournament of Arms, and yeah, it may have been a pickpocket but I FEEL like it was a challenge or guild reward.
Had to do some digging, but apparently I missed a chest containing the Lyre in Kurik. Bit of a pain, but whatever.
There is 4, one is missable since it's one the kid's house in Kurik (Lyre)
>Bodyguard + Scouting (look for more enemies) + Music (attract enemies) + Training
>Walk in a circle for three minutes and gain 10 levels.
I love how busted even this version is.
I can't tell if Ernest is good or not. By the time he finally joined, combat had already completely devolved into a mess of effects and I don't know what the fuck is going on most of the time.
why in the fucking fuck does your character dodge the OPPOSITE direction of the stick?
I think it's sick when you backdash into an attack and claude nothing personnel's an enemy
Do I need to play other Star Oceans before I get this? First time hearing of this series, but it looks fun.
No. Claude in 2 is the son of two of the party members in 1. That's all you need to know.
Fantastic. Thanks.
Not at all. 2 has only a tangential connection to 1. All the games in the series follow the "Make slight references to each other but never a full-on continuation of a previous story" method of sequels.
And before someone corrects me: Yes, Blue Sphere is a direct follow up to 2.
Waited so long for the damn translation. It came out but its just too dated for me. I used to check translation sites all the time. I remember one of the big groups had it listed as in progress for like a decade and those homosexuals probably kill interest in translating it for all that time.
>I remember one of the big groups had it listed as in progress for like a decade and those homosexuals probably kill interest in translating it for all that time.
There's this weird fucking thing in the fan translation community. If someone else is already announced they're working on something, no one else is allowed to. It doesn't matter if there's been no updates for five years, they'll go rabid if someone tries to step in and do it themselves.
Star Ocean bros...It's up to us to save SE.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/news/pdf/24q2slides.pdf
I mean at this point Star Ocean is the only thing SE has left that's worth a damn.
Why'd they have to give Precis those "fuck me eyes"?
Her dad tells her to stop bringing men home. She's a slut.
I would have pirated it if it didn't had denuvo
hows the switch version performance wise?
Switch version has long battle transition load times (5-8 seconds) while it is instant on PC. Framerate wise it's a solid 60 with no drops.
>Framerate wise it's a solid 60 with no drops.
It's 30 on Switch.
>Switch version has long battle transition load times (5-8 seconds) while it is instant on PC
oof, guess I'll pass on the game then. A shame it looked interesting
fwiw my load times on emulator were faster than that for sure, just put the files on an SSD
If you have a good graphics card you can also run it at higher FPS and resolution
So you're supposed to just get the first few super cheap skill levels then flood everyone with books right?
Yep. Give everyone books with Writing and max out Determination.
>Adding anti-grinding mechanics to a grind heavy game
LOOOOOL
>anti-grinding mechanics
Which ones?
What? People have already automated grinding with new features.
I think the closest thing to "no fun allowed" on this game is how cancerous the fucking UI for Remake is.
There have to be a way where you can just select 5 ingredient in one window instead of going back and forth each slot
Meh, it's still a massive upgrade if you compare it to one at a time IC in the previous versions.
I get that, but for a new feature they added, I think this is one of the most sticking point where I actually felt inconvenienced
This is made worse when you realize how much you need to fucking use it to pimp out all your character factors. Only real saving grace is that same factor/no factor item stacks, so you can at least run up to 10 rerolls at time when fishing for factors...assuming the item in question is farmable or replicable
>...assuming the item in question is farmable or replicable
...which basically all the endgame gear isn't.
I'm glad we're getting to this point pretty soon instead of the banal "IT'S A COMPLETE AND TOTAL UPGRADE MAKES THE ORIGINAL OBSOLETE" shit that has been going around.
It does make the original obsolete though
Why does this fact anger you so?
OLD GOOD
NEW BAD
Retard, go play the original again and watch a 20 second cutscene while crafting 1 iron into a worthless necklace with no factors.
This dumbfuck is literally just waiting for somebody to say anything he can shitpost about because he doesn't know anything about the original and the remake KEK
For all I’m bitching about the Remaking UI, it’s still less painful than most of the thing in the original/psp
I did a playthrough of Second Evolution last year or so. It took me like 6 hours on a weekend reloading save so I can finally make a green upgrade for Opera. Took me like 10 mins to get all Precis and Opera upgrade in this remake.
Fuck, even doing factors with just 1 item, it wouldn’t take me more than 15 mins of reloading to get the one I want. It’s just that there are a lot of busywork selecting the materials for the process.
but it does? And I love the original. Were you even ALIVE when it came out?
Games don't become obsolete.
Star Ocean 2 did. Cry about it, nerd.
>There have to be a way where you can just select 5 ingredient in one window instead of going back and forth each slot
anon... why are you using 5 ingredients when you could just use 1 remake crystal?
Even better if it's the last thing you buy so it ends up top of the list so you just press left once to add it for fast menuing
>Grind
SO is a crafter chads game
Do I play this or SO6 first?
I liked 6 because it reminded me more of 2 than the other games did.
Why do I restore some hp and mp after every battle? is there a way to disable that?
That's an innate mechanic
Characters naturally regen a bit of HP/MP per battle depending on their STM stat.
Stamina stat, it's a built in mechanic since the first game on snes
Shut the fuck about Trials I am not playing your dumbass game you fucks spam on Ganker at all times. Take your Reyn or whatever his name is shit elsewhere.
What have you got against Trials of Mana?
Trials of Mana is pretty good, you just have shit taste. Completely dogshit zoom zoom taste.
I downloaded the demo and got it installed yesterday. Was planning to give it a shot today, but saw I got gifted the full version when I woke up. Any reason to not run through the demo first, like for bonus stuff that carries over or something?
No bonus for playing the demo, but progress does carry over.
Alright, thanks anon. Guess I'll just go ahead and get the full game installed then.
The one thing they objectively fucked up is not using the proper sound effects for the menus.
You know, that distinctive tri-ace BLING BLING
>Welch can't make luxury grape juice
All the ladies in Star Ocean have fuck-me-eyes.
It's wonderful.
poorfag bros,we got cucked by DENUVO again...
what are the chances this goes on sale soon?
Noel is the only healer that can be used if you want to maximize Welch's new ultimate weapon
is he any good? I was going to ditch Rena for him for fun anyways. I'm not ditching Precis, though.
No one really used him in the remake, so do give him a try and report back.
Will do, as Welch is already a horrific monster who is doing 9999x10 on her slap move. Can't wait until I can damage unlock her.
I haven't used the bloody armor thing yet, but wouldn't this and an MP steal weapon be better? you don't die if you don't attack, and Claude doesn't seem to have great moves anyways but is god tier at autoattacking
whoops
6 threads did for a good two weeks
is the bloody helmet build strong as the bloody armor build?
how do you leach mana back?
There are factors that restore MP on crit as a % of damage. And there are some weapons with basically 100% crit, so that would probably work.
Either works, but bloody armor has decent atk on it, which gets multiplied by ring of might, berserk, or earrings of frenzy
That and people are less familiar with the helmet since it’s unusable on the previous version
That and hp drain on bloody armor is easier to convert between regular and cheese strategy. When you feel like you don’t want to be too cheesy, then you can just swap armor and your weapon would still be something you would use
Meanwhile, if you have mp drain weapon and bloody helmet, and you decided that Vegh life ain’t for you, you would have to refactor your weapon because SP drain is way overkill on regular use case scenario. Even on character that is super SP hungry like Opera, the Crit boost factor that restore 2% mp and hp is still more than enough to keep her topped up through chain battles
I did not pick him up, but I noticed his new post game weapon has a special effect that has 25% chance of granting reraise when using Symbology on allies
I thought that was pretty legit, but then I realize he has no angel feather.
I guess he might be decent if you’re running a very low power run and zombie strategy is used.
I mean even his old niche of being a healer on bloody armor strategy is gone when you can just use factor to add 20% hp drain on weapons
Though that more or less affect even Rena in term of obsoleting healer, but you can still tag her in to
Angel Feather from Assault Formation
>but you can still tag her in to
>Angel Feather from Assault Formation
yeah which is why I wanna try him out. You lose nothing, basically. I'm not impressed with nuRena much so far
There are other sources of Angel Feather, so it basically boils down to
>Can Noel comfortably keep the team alive
>Are his offensive spells good enough to supplement the rest of the team
I'm calling in sick tomorrow to play this game
No don't do it anon
Get paid
I've seen some people in these threads say that 6 is the closest to 2 in its design philosophy
How is it in terms of gameplay systems like crafting, how's the combat and difficulty balance? I really enjoyed Universe in this one where it's pretty hard, but gives you a million ways to break it
I know barely anything about it because the trailer and artstyle really didn't grab me
I didn't take Leon and now I regret it because I want a caster and not Chisato....
Having played 2 for the first time, i just realized they're really pandering to nostalgia fags with 6. They even have similar scenes.
That scene where Marielle first shows up is also similar to Maria in 3.
Yeah, it's the all star of star ocean. The maverick is also there, even SO5 had references. The villains literally namedrop the kennys. It's the game the connects every single SO game to each other.
>Star Ocean threads reaching bump limit
i lived long enough to see this with my own eyes
Is there a true ending to this game, if so how do I get it?
GOD precis is so MSGK she needs an CORRECTION.
Think about it, she was a MESUGAKI even before the term was invented.
wooooow you sure are smart and cool for noticing a trope that has been around for literal centuries
So, what damage does the berserk ring give? I'm trying to compare it to the Earring of Frenzy that give 200%
guess it doesn't matter because men can't wear it, and neither can Precis because she's too young and bratty to have pierced ears
into the trash she goes
Chisato, Opera, and Welch all can wear it. Chisato and Welch has a sure hit weapon, though Welch’s require post game
COME ON BUNNY!
Should have rerolled your Celine
Why would I? She has Love for Animals, the super skill is just stuck on level 4 because it still works anyway.
>Can use original Japanese VAs
>Immediately go to Rena being voiced by Aya Hisakawa
Absolutely perfect. Kinda wish there was a way to unlock the original English dub. Ernest's voice was a fucking work of art with how goofy it was.
Got a SO1 (FDR specifically) question, I've picked up Cyuss accidentally and now it just makes sense to take Phia as well. I know I want Pericci for that bnuuy and that leaves one free slot for either Welch or T'nique (probably Welch). What choices and what "route" should I take to make sure I see as much content as possible while still conforming to the party setup I chose (e.g. not accidentally getting someone forced into my party or kicked out permanently). I am currently on my first visit to Astral City after dealing with the doppelganger, getting ready to leave to either Purgatorium or "other towns" (which to choose here btw?)
You need a specific party formation to get someone removed permanently and you've already got the one that doesn't. In terms of party specific content, I don't recall Cyuss and Phia haven't too much, the guy you get instead of Cyuss knows like 70% of the NPCs you run into though.
SO1 is short, about 15 hours or so, you can quickly do a playthrough with the members you missed afterwards.
How do I beat the final boss?
He keeps spamming spells and I can't heal through this shit.
Since he's going to absolutely eviscerate anybody within spitting distance of him, use melee with ranged attacks. Claude Sword Bomber is more than adequate to stay away from those fucking rings.
After that, raise def, get half/null elemental resistances on spells he casts so you can stop worrying about them, and slowly beat him to fucking death.
Finally got him with blood armor + spamming healing items.
Fuck this.
You don't beat him. Unironically.
I don't give a fuck. Unironically.
What, is blood armor stupidly OP in this one or something?
Keep him staggered with combos and hope for the best
He traumatized me as a kid. I'm almost sure I accidentally unlocked his limiter back then so he was nearly impossible for my little boy self
regular or limitless?
>Recruit Celine
>First PA is her gossiping about Claude with Rena behind his back
Fucking women
How the fuck am I supposed to beat the post game SOLO arena with the wise men gauntlet that ends with gabriella
I'm lvl 255 with every skill and battle skill maxed out, but they're kicking my ass
Customize more I'd assume
I'll let you know what strategy I use when I get there. I'm taking the 'slower' path through CoT and levelling in general so I still probably have another few days before I cap out and run CoT a buncha times.
bodyguard + scout + ring of avoidance on floor 4-5 (the scum enemies) will get you to level 255 in like 5 minutes, you don't even need scum slayer weapons when killing shit with bodyguard
Yeah I saw the anon's setup
But I still want to beat Gabriella first before I cap out.
game is balance around universe mode chud
LOOK AT THEM GO!
faster
>And thus did my journey with Star Ocean 2 end. I dropped the game, cause I don't like to play games that frustate me or are too hard for me (on easy). I did everything except the last 2 bosses which I will finish watching on YT. Sad this happened. Lowered my grade from 9 to 5.
I have a question, did they leave the requirements for Unlimited the same in remake? Or is she just bad at the game?
you have to be genuinely braindead to not be able to beat this game on easy mode
Reminder that the average person won't engage with crafting.
You don't need crafting to beat galaxy difficulty.
You don't need a brain to beat earth difficult.
like the other anon said, galaxy can be played like a standard JRPG just buying equipment from shops and using what you find
I struggle to think how you could get filtered by Earth though, I'd imagine the AI just wins for you unless you're extremely underleveld
Galaxy is about as difficult as the older versions isn't it? I recall people getting filtered by Hispanicule all the time. No idea how you'd get fucked by Earth unless you miss basically everyone except for the bare minimum and refuse to keep up to date with gear.
>on easy
Holy fucking shit whoever that was is factually TERRIBLE at video games and should stop immediately and never touch them again.
What is this Unlimited final boss?
How do you know if you unlocked it?
You don't even play the game, why are you here mr.schizo?
I didn't pull it out of my ass, there are people that are legitimately too bad at beating the game on Earth.
https://twitter.com/Nanayuna__/status/1721659110507032645
To be fair, the two last bosses are a huge difficulty spike compared to the previous ones and it required me to actually change equipment and experiment.
Most people won't even try that probably.
This bitch is a normalhomosexual at the same tier as my grandma.
why are you even here?
My grandma beat SO2 on galaxy back in 2000, it was one of her favorite games. This bitch is retarded.
>kisekitard got filtered as usual
You can't unlock unlimited anymore unless you beat the final boss once. The PA does not unlock with the final save point, you have to actually beat the boss to unlock the second phia PA.
can you reload the last save after you beat the game or do you mean it's only in NG+?
You beat the game and then it puts you in the final save point like the original.
You can reload
Just bad. I've barely engaged with the skill system and I'm steamrolling on normal.
Noel only level 60 but early indication is that he's pretty good. You don't need a full time healer and he can still break a screen with his spells and he has an AoE lifesteal so he never dies.
We'll see tomorrow when I get him to 100 or so
how can I pirate this on PC
Emulate the switch version.
does the switch version run fine? i guess I can play it on my hacked switch
It's fine-ish. 30 FPS, low render distance, significantly lower resolution, load times are not super bad but still long enough to be annoying. Still absolutely playable though.
skill issue
only low render distance is problem
The fuck you mean "skill issue", all of those things are problems. If anything the render distance is the least annoying out of them.
Load times, FPS capped at 30 (but stable) and worse draw distance than the other versions
Emulating on PC can improve the load times somewhat, but you'll get the best experience with the PC/PS5 versions
>minae cave boss
>entire party is one shot
Holy fuck.
Rena owed Allen sex
he said it was the sorcery globe but really it was SPACE ELF PUSSY
Did they ever explain what these energy stones actually do?
I thought it simply turn them into monster. But this elaborate altar and ritual makes me think Allen had BDSM fetish.
sorcery globe corrupted monsters and shit so I assume they were shards from the sorcery globe and did the same to humans who found them (allen, marze symbologist)
Is magic actually good in SO2 now
Because I remember having lots of fun chain spamming Explosion and Thunder Flare on SO3
spell suppressed exist
So is Noel better now? I heard Ernest got buffed and can multi-hit now. Are Noel's exclusive Earth/Wind spells and any new equipment make him a good mage or is he still just a decent healer/mage hybrid
Yes
Glorious SO enjoyers!
>Im a super special healer
>let me summon this bowling ball to drop on your head
I want to FUCK Chisato
So, what's the earliest you can break the game apart and how to get started tbh
Get to Krosse kingdom. All skills become available at that point, so if you want you can craft basically whatever the fuck you want right there with enough patience
after kurik you can buy fountain pens from harley and basically get a bunch of skills to 7 for free that way