starfield

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> Those ass textures with no lighting.
That's one savage self-own, lmao.

> Zooms right in.
> Even the film grain remains coherent.
> Objects are actually hollow instead of just blocks.
> Objects are round.
> The textures still aren't smearing.
hmmm..
> Literally just an insignificant environmental detail.

Yeah actually that is.

VECTERA HOME

walking simualtors

paradiso has people in bikinis on a beach, I've been there, what I'm talking about has nothing to do with sex

>its very bland and sanitized,
And that's the realistic depiction of space. They're going for a NASA aesthetic and vibe for a lot of the inspiration. Real world tech for the designs of space ships, space bases. Actual real world designs drawn up by NASA for predictions on how these places would look. Based off the actual science.
Space has to be perfect. Spaceships have to have multiple points of failure in its systems to ensure survival. Everything is deliberate because it's too costly in life for there to be a mistake.

It's sterile because that's very much what the environment in space would be like. What space travel would be like. What space colonies, cities etc would be like.
New Atlantis hides its poors, undesirables, problem citizens etc in the tunnels beneath the city. It's supposed to come off as overtly sterilized above ground and that's supposed to initially feel very utopian and very quickly come off as very authoritarian and more dystopian than the initial image of the place is supposed to.

There's a lot to complain about in the game, but I really think a majority of people who find starfield bland just can't get over the subject material this is supposed to be based on, they want more direct escapism but to call it uninspired, bland and without Identity is just wrong.
It oozes and is teeming with space age inspiration directly based off our own adventures into the cosmos and attempts to understand the vast emptiness there within. In the same way fallout captures that same feeling of the cold war, atomic era propaganda, the oil shortages in the 70s.
It's all there. I just think the average person has more first hand experience and knowledge of tolkein fantasy inspirations, and the cold war looming over the world than they really do about the inner workings of the space race, moon missions, rocketry, cosmonauts etc.

Meh might be for you.
I have amazing memories of playing in a giant metal spaceship my dad found that was like 8 feet tall with a small inside like a club house for me and my brothers.
Or when my parents took me to the NASA space center in Houston, and we took the tour throughout the entire facilities. Reminds me of the science centers I went to as well. Also eventually visited the cape Canaveral museum and the areas in Florida too.

Maybe those who didn't grow up with those experiences don't share the same nostalgia for the stars I get when looking at this aesthetic Bethesda made but I love it. I love the humans early settled systems, and the balls to do a sci-fi game without the focus on fantasy sentient alien life but instead humanities journey into the stars.

Shit isn't for everybody but I always saw that dream Todd wanted to share and it's because I had that dream as a kid.

There isn't a game with more detailed ship interiors based on real inspiration, there aren't more well modelled ship interiors than starfield.

this is easily the best part about this game for me, and unexpectedly too. it's a shame the game didn't feel as cohesive and as grounded as i wanted it too. The bethesda formula works better with more simpler settings (post apoc world, medieval fantasy etc) where you scavenge and loot. Looting in starfield feels redundant, as it's literally the space age and you're still rummaging through trash, it feels ridiculous. And you're always carrying thousands of rounds of ammo as well, which feels tasteless compared it to feeling much more rewarding in a desolate place like the fallout world.

starfield does it better

Look man, when I was a young kid I got to take a tour of the place, go inside some of the exhibits, and booting up Starfield, going inside your ship interior brings back direct memories of this.
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-090516a-space-shuttle-adventure-houston.html
You can cope seethe and dilate all you want about how "shit" the aesthetic is, but they absolutely nailed the NASA look they were going for with the Nova habs and it brought me back to being a kid again

god damn this thing was cool as hell as a kid

not the guy you're replying to, but the sterile interiors are so bland and boring, maybe that's the appeal for some die hard space realism fans but not for people who want something better than what the locker room at the 'Y' offers. The cockpit looks cool but that's about it. the game is the definition of soulless, but i will grant that it isn't their fault, such is the true nature of the void that is space.

don't try to reason with tbad faith retards.

Hopetech industries has cube shaped spaceships. If they were going for a NASA look, it would be all rockets, curves, wings and enormous thrusters. Bad argument.
The obviously borrowed from all of science fiction. There are deliberate call outs to Star Wars in it.
The “reality” here is no more than the “reality” of Star Trek. It’s not finely tuned, but it’s serviceable. The factions are boring. There are religious zealots, cowboys, and your basic “starfleet” faction. Not only that, it’s all interchangeable. Everyone wears the same clothes. Everyone looks the same. Everyone has shared accents from “Old Earth”. They did not craft an engaging world here, it’s pretty humdrum.

A cube lifting off from the surface of a planet is NASA? That’s Star Wars you fucking idiot.

NASA propels cubes into orbit with tiny little thrusters? Interesting.

Has SpaceX launched their cube yet?

There are multiple different shipyards at this point, designing different kinds of ships for different sectors of society.
Hopetech is space-trucker cargo hauling industrial ships, and their design philosophy shows that.
Deimos has the shipyard that's been tasked with designing, building and making military ships, and their philosophy is designed specifically around militant use.
They all follow similar core design principles technology wise, but just like real life when it comes to different sectors, you'll have different designed aesthetics.
You have military boats, pleasure boats, industrial work boats, cargo boats, research boats, etc in real life.

There is a specific star yard that's entirely based around that NASA look and it's Nova. their HABS look like the ISS, their Structural parts are wings, struts, solar panels and everything you need to make the appollo one if we found oil on the moon.

>grounded in realism = realism
holy fucking shit disingenuous gay, have a nice day.
Just because you lack understanding of the inspiration the game has, doesn't mean it's "Bland" yeah, say more that you don't like anything about space travel as it is in the real world, the aesthetic it has, etc.
I know you don't, because you desperately want it to be another mass effect where you fuck a blue alien or some shit.

>It's the most bland looking sci-fi setting
It's the most inspired sci-fi setting, and it took balls to make it based on humans exploration out in the earliest explored star systems and not a huge alien wankfest where you excuse everything as "Space magic" and get to fuck different colored aliens that are just humans but maybe with a blue head tentacle hair.

Starfield is the most scientifically grounded in terms of art-direction out of any space RPG ever made.
Their spaceship interiors are the nicest looking out of any space RPG ever made. Really the lists goes on and on

well yes, that's the real space magic, but that's the tweest

There is a scientific basis for Starborn story anon Todd can't constantly hold your hands

multiverse, yes, although not actually scientific (at the moment) and purely theoretical, starborn, no.

it's actually space science.

>Tolkein fantasy knockoff tropes
>Same love and care
no they actually gave more love n care into it than just blatantly ripping off the same fantasy tropes every hack fantasy writer has done since the dawn of time, while excusing away any and all plotholes with Chim.

IS ALL STYLE IS REALISTIC FUTURE

go to Nasa and call them unrealistic.
all planets have different gravity, diffferent meeo, fdifferent biome and differnt timezones

COPE

Seveneves has a similar premise of nasapunk (the entire story revolves around it) and is a billion times more creative than this slop

I honestly felt the exact opposite. I don't even think I finished it the two times I read it, dropped it as soon as the Riggers or Diggers showed up and humanity had evolved into fantasy races. I can see how that would be much more interesting but for me it was more interesting to see the humans struggle against insane odds with relatively near-future tech. Some of the lead up was contrived but you gotta give and take when it comes to fantasy. He did the same thing in Dodge in Hell, basically made half the book a LOTR or Paradise Lost fantasy story and for some reason it made me so fucking mad to sit through that, and that's coming from someone who willingly read Gene Wolfe's Solar Cycle 3 times. Stephenson is a sci-fi thriller type writer and he needs to stop fucking around in fantasy land. They could have hired him for Starfield honestly.

Fwiw I had to restart Seveneves because at first I just couldn't get over the Neil Tyson stand in or the Elon Musk character, but it starts to get good once they're fully underway in space and really have to deal with it. I think Stephenson's best works were as you mentioned, with Snow Crash being the better of the two, and that's his strength. Reamde is similarly good, great even, but Dodge in Hell (the sequel) really falls apart in the fantasy half. The Baroque Cycle is definitely worth a look if you read and enjoyed Cryptonomicon though, much of the same vibe and Stephenson doesn't have to worry greatly about the science since it's all historical.

Do people hate Black Science Man? I thought Reddit just seethed at him for me too shit and he ignored it and it went away. His podcast still pulls good numbers but I don't really know what the average person thinks of him these days

>What space travel would be like. What space colonies, cities etc would be like.
This setting makes no sense

>majority of humanity lives in remote settlements scattered across the galaxy
>every single one is unprotected and being wiped out by random space bandits
>every single one is begging for a protector
>meanwhile there's a city the size of a single city block that's perfectly safe and protected and supplies everyone with everything
>there are retards who choose to settle on moon with no atmosphere to be *farmers*
>What government exists is barely functioning and seemingly outnumbered by a disorganized Mob of retarded pirates who survive mainly off stealing shit from others
>space ships are dirt cheap, and any retard can pilot one making it so every gang of 5 can own one and terrorize the rest of humanity
>Space ships are treated like bikes in that they're extremely common and nothing special
>but despite all that nobody explores the outer reaches of space
>Races and cultures are arbitrary because a black guy can be Russian instead of the hundreds of other ethnicities that a black guy irl would actually want like Nigerian, Jamaican, Creole etc
>White people are all posh English and nothing else
>Black people are literally french, Russian, chinese and Indian
>Asians are all American and have no accent
>Again, everyone lives in small insular communities smaller than city blocks with populations smaller than a new York Street yet they all have completely random cultures, accents and races

This borders on JK Rowling levels of cultural ignorance. Did a disease make everyone retarded and also make every child born part of a random race?

>ship is
>much they
neither will you.

Nice post jeet try again when you can speak English

>You don’t even see anyone actually farming
There are center-pivot irrigation machines right outside Akila with robots working on them and the entire Freestar Ranger plotline is started by heading off to a farm to help them out.

>Nobody is growing crops
Cause they all died you retard, that's what the fertilizer does.

They're still working the land, retard. How much of a gay urbanite are you?

>this is the real feeling of exploration
landing in copy paste planets to go into copy paste buildings?

I could just boot up Minecraft and run forward for hours and get basically the same experience but with more shit happening
and I wouldn't enjoy that either

bethesda fucking hates fallout and you can see it in every fiber of any beth fallout game

i wasnt that anon i was just chiming in on the whole "hard sci fi" thing using words straight from the todd's mouth

i dont know what you think i am or am not saying. i literally just wanted to add that interview for context for you guys on what they were thinking. im not a part of your argument.

No shit anon they literally just copy and pasted prefabs all over. There was no thought put into any of it. You can find lush green grass on planets with 0 oxygen and -60 temps

You're in your 30s and you have the experience and imagination of a zoomer given how quick you are to reduce the cities to what you can understand. That's fine, it turned out the game wasn't for you despite you getting conned into preordering.

What do you like about the game? What makes it stand out? How does it distinguish itself, in your eyes?

It's easy to critique a position if you never have to take one yourself. Tell me why the game was for you, with as much detail as I gave you.

>ut the cause and effect of your actions is shown during your walkthrough
pfahhahahah
try beating the game you stupid fucking ESL retard. I bet you played on easy, too.
You fuckers straight up LIE about the game and it's hilarious and sad in equal measure

>no u
get a life, ESL shitter. You wouldn't have to eat dirt and rice for dinner if you got work instead of shitting on Ganker all day lying about video games you haven't played

What exactly are you getting out of lying on the internet?

you don't understand bro, three lines of dialogue change and the name of the mindflayer who sacrifices themselves changes to either Emperor, Prince Orpheus, or your companion/you
That means the ending is different!

>a
>isolated land
night city is just a city with nothing around it
LOL

neo atlantis akila neon and cydonia are the only cities (and ven cydonia really isn't a city it's a mine with some shops)
paradiso is literally 1 building there as a prop for you to do the colony mission
idk what you mean by "russian name one" but if you mean red mile. that's not a city

New Atlantis, Akila, and Neon are the only "cities" in the game, and Akila is more like a village. Everywhere else like New Homestead and Cydonia are pretty much just outposts with one shop, one bar, and one area dedicated to residences that you usually can't even enter.

The largest city in the game is just some fallout-style ruins on a planet in Procyon, frozen and overrun by terrormorphs. It's only big for the sake of being an obstacle course (as opposed to just another cave or factory) since it's all nonsensical commieblock apartments scattered everywhere.

How i enter in house Varuun ambassy?