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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wont this just allow pirating stores to pop up as well?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Great

      No, they'd have to get a license from MS to set up shop. This isn't them just opening up the Xbox ecosystem to anyone but likely negotiating deals per-store
      Either way, this is good news. The only question is how does Xbox/MS plan to make money then? Do they just plan to basically have Game Pass be on the front-page and hope you sign up for it while also allowing you to use PC games? I also hope that maybe they also open up the ecosystem more to emulators? I'd fricking kill to be able to put PCSX2 or Dolphin on my box without having to deal with dev mode

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Steam sharing on Xbox will be God tier for us with normie relatives.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      depends on what it entails, could just be some integration, to basically making the next xbox console a PC.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but it will be 750-800 because it will no longer make any sense whatsoever to sell the consoles at loss knowing you won't recoup any money on software sales. But since epic is forcing it's way onto phones ps won't be far behind xbox and then exclusivity will truly be dead.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the deck is not locked down and has become a better deal.
          but valve is a different beast tbf.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but the deck is like 1/16th the power of a series x

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Same issue with margins, valve is likely making basically nothing, if not negative on deck hardware sales, but the deck is not locked down at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                im just saying frick a deck, shits huge as frick you can get laptops with better specs that probably weigh less

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's not true, gaming laptops suck at the price of a deck, also the deck is smaller in person, it's basically an adult-sized switch.
                just takes one search to realize the deck is really not that big.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a little over 11 inches across. That's a meaty chunk of device. In contrast my gaming laptop is 14. Also if you don't think you can get a better laptop for 400 dollars you're out of your mind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's meaty next to a switch or 3ds, but next to a laptop it is a lot smaller. Also it fits in the hand better than any of them.
                >better for 400
                very unlikely for a new laptop, maybe a used one, which id be willing to concede, but not new.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My dude the steam deck's graphics card is on par with something like a gtx 1050. A fricking 1050. It's also a 720p screen with an insanely small storage. You for sure can get a better brand new laptop for 400 dollars.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they upgraded the storage (no price change), and the decks graphics are made for it's screen, anything stronger would have 30minutes of battery.
                Also the point is about margins, and the margins on the deck are tiny, if not negative.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was talking about the 256GB storage as being insanely small not the 64GB one. You do know 256GB is insanely small right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SD cards are cheap

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and slow

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Recently bought a 15.6 laptop with a Ryzen 7600 model and 512 nvme disk for 390.
                But the GPU sucks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the gpu only "sucks" because you are trying to play at 1080p while on the deck you use FSR performance maximum vaseline at 720p (rendering at 240)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Recently bought a 15.6 laptop with a Ryzen 7600 model and 512 nvme disk for 390.
                But the GPU sucks

                >gaming
                >laptop
                super king supreme morons

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know Microsoft would take a cut of the sales with games sold through those apps right? Hell they take a cut of the sales if you by cosmetics in random games on xbox.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If Xbox tried to make that a part of the deal, then Steam and EGS would literally not even bother putting their stores on the platform. I mean, maybe EGS would but Steam wouldn't
            STeam has all the leverage in the world here, they have both users and games and are wildly popular. There is literally no reason for them to negotiate a deal with Microsoft such that they cut MS in on the 3rd party licensing fees of anything sold through the Steam Store. The Xbox community would not expand the Steam one by that much.
            Steam's revenue is around $13 billion and, realistically, most of that is profit. There is functionally no reason to think that MS would have anything meaningful to offer Valve

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >There is functionally no reason to think that MS would have anything meaningful to offer Valve
              What they are offering is another place for Valve to sell games which would make them more money. I don't know if you know this, but businesses are in the bushiness of making money.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but I think Valve has enough leverage to say 'frick off, we're taking the whole licensing fee cut, we'll pay you an annual fee instead'
                Like, this is the debate that Apple is having with Epic right now. The licensing fee is everything, neither Apple nor Steam nor Sony nor Nintendo nor Microsoft want to give that up.
                Hell, Nintendo split with Sony specifically because of the shit they were trying to pull with being the license holder for the "Nintendo Playstation".
                The point here is that I don't think Valve would just hand over even a single percentage of the licensing fee revenue to Microsoft because they would rather keep all of it and pay MS some other way. Because they know that their store is more valuable than Xbox's hardware
                If the licensing fee wasn't that big of a deal, Apple and Epic wouldn't have gone to court over it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >businesses are in the bushiness of making money.
                giving a cut of their profits to MS would lose them money. XBOX is a dying brand that barely can scrape together even 8 digit sales anymore and are the weakest link in the console market by an enormous margin, they're nowhere near an equal of valve who currently have a near monopoly on PC gaming.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >giving a cut of their profits to MS would lose them money

                explain to me how that would work. steam makes money selling the game and then gives microsoft a little bit of it. this somehow makes steam lose money?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >explain to me how that would work
                NTA but here
                Basically, let's say that the current Steam users base is about 130 million people. Those people have chosen to play games on steam using some marginally custom piece of equipment that costs a pretty penny, a gaming PC. Valve doesn't really care who they get their parts from or even what OS they're running because the licensing fee is basically equal for every transaction no matter what.
                This 130 million figure is growing year on year.
                However, in comes Steam for Xbox. Xbox is MUCH cheaper than a gaming PC for most people, even when sold at cost. So many people who might have otherwise bought a normal gaming pc to play Steam games are now getting an Xbox because it's cheaper. But, as a result, Valve is now losing X percentage of software revenue to Microsoft as part of the deal of having Steam on their hardware.
                So the opportunity cost is greater than if Steam just dug their feet in and kept the platform on PC (windows and MacOS included) only
                and this is to say nothing of how they're pushing their own hardware now with Steam Deck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds reasonable in theory, but if steam ever actually did go to xbox then an xbox would just shoot up in price matching equivalent pc hardware anyways.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for us with normie relatives.

      Explain, please.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >steam and epic end up dead

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    totally redundant. Why buy something that's a substitute PC when you can just get a PC? Broadening the xbox capabilities is decent cope to salvage a dying brand, but it's hardly a selling point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Why buy something that's a substitute PC when you can just get a PC?
      My PC is connected to my monitor in a separate room and my Xbox is connected to my TV in my living room.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please tell me I’ll be able to mod the games mr microsoft shill or otherwise it’s still a lost cause

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can i install games i already own on steam? if so then based, I might buy one for my downstairs tv as moonlight or steam streaming is kinda shit even with ethernet cable

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought the Series X as my Game Pass roku box. I got it new for less than $200 after selling the 360 and game library so I have no regrets.

    It also is great when I find a good deal on a disk game.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And still nobody will buy one

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If true I will drop Sony forever, JRPG trash tends to be cheaper there

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, an $800 Series X that can play Steam games would be an easy sell for me to get my friends on board.
      Hell, a $400 Series S with Steam would be the easiest sell in the world. I know people who would jump on that instantly.
      If Xbox becomes the Steam Machine 2.0, that would be both very funny and a highly desirable product, especially with its built-in VRR support and Auto-HDR tech

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know how people can celebrate the state destroying the ability of businesses to compete with each other and call it a win for consumers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can celebrate the state destroying the ability of businesses to compete with each other
      what are you talking about?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That would be great for me because I have a deck and xbox. That way I wouldn’t have to be locked down to one or the other. I don’t think that applies to many people, and I don’t really see the benefit in losing tons of game revenue

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Microsoft ever allows third party stores on Xbox it will be exactly the same as how Apple is handling third party stores on iPhone. Every game will still need to get approved by Microsoft and each third party store will only sell official Xbox ports, not PC games.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two more weeks Karim
    Trust the plan

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Watch Valve get ahead of them with a Steam Machine 2.0 lmao.

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