It was supposed to be part of 3.5 update, I feel like when they officially launch this, we see a 3.5 official release, but there's been 0 word on official dual boot support, and I think there's going to be some issues with windows since the drivers are all a year old.
The drivers should be fine as it still the same apu in the oled steam deck, it's just a die-shrink.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It was supposed to be part of 3.5 update, I feel like when they officially launch this, we see a 3.5 official release, but there's been 0 word on official dual boot support, and I think there's going to be some issues with windows since the drivers are all a year old.
Oh though the wifi chip is different so that probably wont work.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, there are enough minor differences to hardware that I feel the windows drivers might be borked.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that they release new ones in time for launch but I'm not holding my breath.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah it sucks how much of an afterthought windows support is, I guess they know they don't really need to bother since the Deck is still selling really well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I get it, they really want to push linux because they have a bit more freedom from MS when they do (and it is a when, not if) pull support for third party marketplaces and start forcing everyone to function through MS store.
Unfortunately, it's not just an ms vs valve thing, devs have to be on board, and a lot of them are extremely wary of the various distros, and don't want to open up their online games to play there.
But, it's just a time thing, eventually, it'll work.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Unfortunately, it's not just an ms vs valve thing, devs have to be on board, and a lot of them are extremely wary of the various distros, and don't want to open up their online games to play there. >But, it's just a time thing, eventually, it'll work.
Nah, they LITERALLY just have to make their games work with the good old win32 API like they did forever. They have to do literally nothing else except tick a box when compiling the game with their anticheat malware to work on Linux.
Valve made proton. Devs have to do jackshit.
It just works™
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>devs have to be on board
eh....thats the great thing about proton, you dont really have to be on board. You simply have to not be adversarial homosexuals like epic and bungie who put out statements like "If you run our games on linux we will ban you for life, go fuck yourself." the proton versions of many games typically run better than outdated native versions because they dont rely on libdickpeepeepoo version 0.5(broke during update to libdickpeepeepoopoo 1.3)
>download windows ISO >boot windows ISO >install windows >drag and drop windows drivers >install drivers
bam, good to go.
If you think that's difficult or that you have to have some sort of intelligence to do, you've got some problems. I love my deck but frankly the inability to play a bunch of games I actually like to play is crippling. The increases to efficiency and cooling should easily null out the difficulty I face with running windows at the moment.
Time to continue playing destiny 2 at 60fps, now with HDR and an OLED screen.
It does tho, if you are talking about the gog release being broken since release because they hired some jeets to develop a shitty video player that somehow didn't even work on 99% of Vista/7 systems, the solution is to just launch the actual .exe instead of the shortcut it creates by default. Windows 10+ doesn't even have the directdraw color inversion bug
>"Just try every proton setting until it's less broken"
I have literally never had to scramble through proton versions to get something to work. Not even once. At most I've had to use proton GE to get pre-rendered cutscenes to play, but that's literally a 30 second fix.
>Buying games >"Just try every setting until it's less broken" >Check the wiki
Damn bro I just don't have internet here, am I fucked? Yes, Linux is garbage.
Cuck
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>>"Just try every setting" >2 settings
Man, pc gamers sure are retarded nowadays.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Be windows user >It just works, no setting
I find it very interesting that in Windows, games always launch, but issues come up later like saves not working or getting corrupt, setting files not loading properly etc. Linux on the other hand has a trickier setup phase but once the game launches properly it usually works better than on Windows.
With the way Valve is pushing Proton I have no doubt that in a couple of years it will begin to work even better than native Windows.
>Linux will be good in XX years
Yeah, keep saying that
I find it very interesting that in Windows, games always launch, but issues come up later like saves not working or getting corrupt, setting files not loading properly etc. Linux on the other hand has a trickier setup phase but once the game launches properly it usually works better than on Windows.
With the way Valve is pushing Proton I have no doubt that in a couple of years it will begin to work even better than native Windows.
I still can't believe how bad Windows has gotten. It's one thing to make it a schizophrenic mess with three different UIs coexisting in conflict, but actually fucking up the just werks part?
I miss the days where an SSD was like, this super cool optional storage option that reduced loading times by a factor of 100. Now its mandatory because windows is so busy jacking itself off behind the scenes that the entire OS is locked up on a hard drive bottleneck
I really hoped that they would release a Steam Deck with an 8" screen and smaller bezels. Wouldn't have cared if it were OLED or LCD, as long as it wasn't as bad as the current one's.
I'm hoping the screen res is still the same, any more would make battery life horrendous
Does any one know if OLED screens are better for battery life in general?
Contact to cancel your order or dont accept package when it comes.
I'm hoping the screen res is still the same, any more would make battery life horrendous
Does any one know if OLED screens are better for battery life in general?
OLED uses a fuckton less energy than LCD, its why all iphones and whatnot use it.
From steams page:
More time to play
Steam Deck OLED has 30-50% more battery life. We fit a bigger battery into the case, and the OLED display draws less power. Add in an updated, more efficient AMD APU and you have way more time to play your favorites.
I cannot find the video I'm talking about, but you could use this instead maybe
https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/ctrlaltdelete-dont-expect-better-battery-with-oled-laptops-4157895
>OLED Screen >Significantly improved battery life >Wi-Fi 6E, 3x as fast downloads as LCD model >Runs cooler >Weighs less >Up to 1TB NVME storage, twice as much as the highest LCD
LCD bros... we're getting mogged.
Introducing the Limited Edition Steam Deck OLED, a different colorway for the 1TB Steam Deck OLED. Quantities are highly limited, and are only available in the United States and Canada.
With the Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware, if Valve doesn't release a true hardware upgrade before it then the Steam Deck will be as outdated compared to the Switch 2 as the Switch 1 was compared to the Steam Deck. >Muh Nintendo doesn't care about power! The leak must be fake!
New leadership.
4K doesn’t make any sense for a small on-device screen though. 4K output to a TV does and it wouldn’t shock me to see Nintendo target that, but a 4K display on the hardware makes literally zero sense and would make the device prohibitively expensive to the end user. Nintendo has had a lot of success keeping the price of the Switch down relative to its competition and moving a lot of hardware units so I don’t see why they would shift gears now.
Steam Deck also already runs most/all newer releases at a stable 30-40 FPS at the hardware display resolution, which is fine for the form factor and cost.
The Nintendo that made the Switch was a very different company to the one that exists now. All leaks suggest that they're focusing on power for the next-generation Switch.
>With the Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware
Retard.
Based on available information about the T239 chip you'll be lucky if the Switch ends up being as powerful as a PS4.
Almost twice the PPI of a 27" 1440p monitor (206 vs 108 PPI), actually not even a 27" 4K monitor comes close to matching it at 163 PPI. It's a non issue, anything higher would be a waste at this size.
Every Oled does, however even for the Switch OLED, someone did a test for it, barely any noticeable burn-in after 2 years, thats with max brightness and been on since the text begun. Take that as your will
I've been abusing a lg c9 oled since 2019 as my main desktop monitor. Thousands of hours in games, movies and I've left it running with my desktop running in the background for hundreds of hours. No burn in yet
cool
cool
but...
Does it have VRR?
That's the actually important thing. OLED is great, sure, but if games still can't get above 30fps VRR is absolutely a fucking requirement. It doesn't matter if colors are super crisp if I still have to deal with fucking tearing.
Going by the Tested video- there's no real VRR but you can set an arbitrary fixed refresh rate between 10 and 90hz. So if you can get a locked 40fps, you can set it to 40hz (actually it framedoubles to 80hz) and avoid any tearing or judder that way.
Will you guys who already own the old model be sticking with the outdated Steam Deck or buying the new one? The improvements definitely look nice but I'm not sure it's worth buying if you already have the original, personally.
Nope. If they updated the specs and made the machine more powerful then yeah I'd probably buy one.
But as is I still use my original steam deck almost daily and have no reason to upgrade it for a slightly better screen and slightly better battery life.
>tech illiterates see different number and expect monumentally improved speeds
switch 2 will DEFINITELY be as powerful as a ps5 and under 300 dollars btw, bro, I totally swear
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
what are you talking about? The oled deck is demonstrably, ALREADY shown to be faster than the original. It is a new SOC, it is faster, this is not up for debate, this is not subjective, this is objective fact.
Sorry you're coping so hard you wasted your money on a literal slop test.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's the same SoC on a newer node with a different power profile dumbass. Same as the Switch moving from 20nm to 16nm but Valve put a bit more on the power side and less on the battery here. Stop embarrassing yourself talking about shit you don't understand
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
so why is cyberpunk getting 10% increased performance in all tests from the gamestop video, f1 getting 10% increased performance in the LTT tests, and all the other tests showing direct improvements?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
because the oled has the same optimization settings that cryoutils sets on the old steamdeck, keep up.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Surely they‘d have pushed an update for all decks with those settings if they actually did that much
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if they actually did that much
you sweet summer child
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3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because of increased clocks idiot. Does your CPU magically transform when you OC it, no, it just runs faster, same story here. Node shrink means Valve can push GPU clocks higher at the same wattage
Because of increased clocks idiot. Does your CPU magically transform when you OC it, no, it just runs faster, same story here. Node shrink means Valve can push GPU clocks higher at the same wattage
The RAM is faster... >16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (6400 MT/s quad 32-bit channels)
vs >16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (5500 MT/s quad 32-bit channels)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
slower RAM won't account for a 10% difference, GPU clocks (more specifically sustained GPU clocks) absolutely will
So oled deck on 6nm runs faster than the original deck, and fan kicks on much less since it runs cooler, battery life can be up to 60% better too.
no no no NO NO NO NO NO THEY'RE THE SAME THEY'RE THE SAME NO NO NO YOU'RE WRONG THEY'RE THE SAME FUCKING CHIP STOP SAYING IT'S DIFFERENT IT'S THE SAAAAAAME
I haven't played a single game on my Steam Deck that does not run at 60 FPS because I'm not trying to run AAA games on it.
I have a PC with an i7-13700k and a 4080 to play those games on.
I have a 4090 but I can't imagine buying a shittier, worse version of my PC to play anything.
The only use case for these devices is for people who want to play pc games but don't already have a device to do so. And for them, no vrr means it's gonna be choppier than bloodborne.
>Will you guys who already own the old model be sticking with the outdated Steam Deck or buying the new one?
I didn't end up using the Deck as much as I thought I would so probably not.
nah, the upgrades are nice but not necessary, I'm happy to wait a couple years more for the real deck. I bought the cheapest version knowing it would be temporary while they beta test it, the new cheapest options dont even have oled.
I'll spend more money when they fix the size of the system and when the hardware can emulate ps3 games.
Nah, if my current one breaks and there are no definite news of a Deck 2, I will buy an OLED one since it's the replacement line, otherwise I'm fine, I don't play AAA or anything intensive on it.
No the price increase aint worth the improvement for OLED especially for steam deck owners who bought 64GB steam deck at $399 launch price or <$299 for refurb price to 512 GB OLED steam deck at $499
Its the apple ladder pricing method as valve won't be selling OLED with cheaper pricing 64GB storage and valve won't allow oled to work on older steam deck 🙂 there goes the upgradability point
>Will you guys who already own the old model be sticking with the outdated Steam Deck or buying the new one?
I didn't end up using the Deck as much as I thought I would so probably not.
still lacking in performance to use it regularly
Wait for the Deck 2 for actual performance improvement
>anti deck autist spends 2 years shitting on the deck due to the battery life and screen >gets a new model which fixes both of those things
what will he latch onto next?
Autist has plenty to latch onto apple pricing strat, no oled display to work on older models
You can, but UMPCs fucking suck as laptops, the general layout sucks and hunching over it is awful. if I HAD to use a umpc as a laptop id use the winmax for its built in keyboard but yes you can
>Wait for the Deck 2 for actual performance improvement
This will lead nowhere. By the time the deck 2 comes out it‘ll struggle with whatever the newest games that are released then are, too
it won't lol unless the game is unoptimized like the current City Skylines 2
Next year 2024 x86 AMD and Intel will release AI NPUs for the first time in mainstream x86 for consumer to have efficient power management and increased CU counts for iGPUs which will get the efficient mainstream version of this by 2025-2026 which is the steam deck APU upgrade
I'm more interested in ARM version of handhelds in the future from Snapdragon Elite or Dimensity
Remember when all the tendies were in disbelief at how cheap the deck was, constantly claiming it was sold at a loss? how did they afford to expand the memory options and keep the price the same?
Cheapest version at the time of launch release was sold at loss during the pandemic cuz of chip shortage bs increasing prices for both APU and DRAM right now both are cheap af for both #
>buying a steam deck revision with the same exact shit hardware when the Legion Go just came out
Who would do this?
>Cheapest version at the time of launch release was sold at loss during the pandemic cuz of chip shortage bs increasing prices for both APU and DRAM right now both are cheap af for both
there is no source for this, you pulled it out your ass, motivated by inflated price expectations set by nintendo and chinese shit. Everything about how valve has behaved indicates it was never sold at a loss and that everyone else was price gouging.
If I could trade mine in or have it upgraded for a lower price I would but no 64gb oled option and the fact that no one will want an LCD deck now makes that a no
OLED really does make a difference once you see it in person. Although, I really don't wanna spend $500 for a new one.
Maybe if there's a trade-in of any kind.
I'm selling it and buying a gaming laptop. Buying this shit was a mistake, way too expensive for the specs. I'll be a month away in my hometown and a laptop will be way more useful.
>spend 1300$ for a superior laptop and usb controller >play everything mobile in ultra
You fags don’t play these in public anyway what are you nerds doing.
I don’t really believe this, Gabe had said that the screen wasn’t a priority and that they weren’t making an upgraded Deck. Anyway call me when they release a slim version, this shit remings of playing with a Game Gear with tiny child hands.
>Anyway call me when they release a slim version, this shit remings of playing with a Game Gear with tiny child hands.
Do you still have tiny child hands as an adult?
>elden ring >fabulously
I tried playing that at 40hz and the fans were loud as shit, the deck hot and battery life around 1.5 hours. Idk how that is “fabulous“
my fans have never been what Id call loud, and it runs great on low. >1.5 hours
plug it in nigga, you and I both know you arent actually leaving the house with this shit. I play on the porch
>hdr >oled >quieter >cooler >better battery life >faster download speed
So it‘s basically what it should have been at launch? Seems like a nice upgrade but i‘m fine with my deck until the actual deck 2
Also it has a 1TB NVME. The 512GB felt very limiting and that was the biggest model previous to this. Yes I know MicroSD's exist but games load fasted on the NVME.
>same body
no thanks. My biggest complaint about the steam deck is that its way too fucking big. If you wanted to take it on a flight it would take up most of your carry-on luggage.
I'm surprised they didn't change the body too. For how advanced everything else about it is, the body looks like something SEGA would have released if they made a handheld 1-2 decades ago.
did you not read my post? My complaint is that it takes up too much space while travelling, the whole point of owning one. For me anyway. I'd never buy a switch because of how expensive the games are but its form factor is miles better.
>Can we just buy the screen and swap it into our existing Steamdecks? Because that's all I want.
Linus Tech Tips >Unfortunately not, the internals have been changed quite a bit, but Valve did say the new screen can be swapped WITHOUT having to open up the the Deck, should you ever need to do that!
I trust linus about as far as I can throw him. Ill wait for Gabe himself to say no the same way Linus initially said you couldnt add an SSD to the 64 gig model and then did exactly that painlessly 2 weeks later
return it if you can. If you cant you arent missing THAT much. People shit on the steamdeck screen but its really only second to switch OLED and configuring color saturation mitigates a ton of the issues. Dont let bandwagoning techtubers make you feel bad
Yeah I'm not really gonna return it, I'm already comfy with it. I just find it funny that I finally jumped on the wagon and this happens. Many such cases
He said there won‘t be a successor and this isn‘t one. They even said in that exact interview that they‘d look at the battery life and screen if anything in a revision and that‘s exactly what they did
dont listen to the other guy, fitgirl sucks. I tried to pirate rdr2 and wasted an entire day installing, just for it to not work. did the exact same process with dodi repacks and it worked perfectly. otherwise indie stuff is easy to install too
they got away with charging $350 for the oled and are STILL selling the base models for full price($300). it's easily $399 at bare minimum and there might be a deluxe model that sells for more.
>poised to outstrip the PS2's sales with no price drops even during holidays and black friday >still causing anal pain on Ganker with the next system on the horizon
how does ninrendo do it?
>3 hour minimum now
This should've been minimum at launch for the regular deck or at least an external battery accessory for people who want more than 1 hour of uptime
I really wish Valve would allow for people to give in Steam Decks in exchange of a discount, if you want the OLED there's just no reason to keep the old one around since new one seems better in every regard, and would save time by trying to sell it on your own
Resell them refurbished or something but yes, it's a weird situation because 512GB and 1TB models are replaced by the OLED versions and the LCD versions are on stock out, maybe they can reuse them for parts
Wonder if they‘d take decks that have their ssd‘s swapped
If you still have the original one just swap it in again and save the previous one for the OLED version, everything will just work the same
Can Aya Neo still brag about better performance? The OLED screen boast is gone, and the price is too high. It seems there's no other reason to buy it besides the exterior design.
I play games on my deck daily, rarely do I touch my switch. Can't go back to Nintendo when they're charging $50 for remasters. Hell, I save a lot of money because I barely buy games anymore because of Emulation.
I was gifted a switch for free and while I like it, it does come down to >If I buy odd numbered decks (1-3-5) my library Ive had since 2006 carries over >If I buy whatever nintendos new system is, my old library is gone and Ill be expected to rebuy rereleases
Its a no brainer if you have 100 or more dollars spent on steam
It's just so uncomfortable to use a switch, never liked the joycons, the analog sticks are small and hard to be precise. the button are small and feel awful, no dpad and because they are seperate from the switch body you can feel them rattle around on the rails as you play. You also have a much better grip on the Deck rather than the flat back of the Switch.
The only quality is that it's lighter.
It's very hit or miss on features like losing NFC and rumble while, I just couldn't be bothered because at the end of the day I'll just play the game on Deck. Nitro Dock looked good though.
>Also hate that there‘s no 64gb oled model cause they know people will just swap out the ssd
and break their shit and RMA it to valve
just buy the 1TB version retard and stop wasting Valve's time RMA your retarded broken decks
It's STILL cheaper than the ally/legion go, that's the only metric they really needed to beat.
I'm supremely disappointed there isn't more RAM this go round though.
Anyone use this thing as a laptop? I'm considering it but I would feel like such a retard carrying one around campus
frankly it can work fine if you know what you need. I know my local uni uses some proprietary bullshit programs that you HAD to have windows for (Which pissed off a lot of mac kids which was funny) so make sure you can use linux for everything you need. Otherwise yeah it should be fine.
Frametime improvements. It's nothing critical but it costs nearly nothing to acquire additional 16gb of dimms. most chinkhelds offer it at a cost of under $25, to go from 16 to 32gb with no other adjustments.
People who've hardmodded (IE soldered new dimms) have performance increase on most newer games because the shared ram/vram pool will no longer have to compete with OS level resources (much less an issue on steamos than windows, admittedly).
Can't find the picture but someone who modded 32gb on their deck went from 0.1% lows on hogsharts slopacy of 5-6fps to 20-22. That's an insane change for smoothness.
You can, but UMPCs fucking suck as laptops, the general layout sucks and hunching over it is awful. if I HAD to use a umpc as a laptop id use the winmax for its built in keyboard but yes you can
Deck with keyboard looks kino. The Winmax clamshell design is better, but Deck is far more advanced. I've got the feeling that this'll be the future of PC's in the coming years, people carrying around UMPCs as their personal computers as well as cellphones and consoles. The usage of UMPCs is universal and full of opportunities. People will use them as their work laptops as well as for daily use (calling and texting, watching videos, using software for editing / coding, or playing games).
whats always surprised me is the lack of UMPCs in business spaces. Why did onexplayer and gpd have to break into the gamer scene? I travel for work and would have loved a nice small laptop I could fold up and put in a backpack easily, but most of the small end laptops were shitty chromebooks at the time and made of poverty parts.
UMPCs began as a gaming laptop niche but after the arrival of handheld gaming consoles, UMPCs were revived as true ultra mobile personal computers. They were a dead meme for some time until the Steam Deck and its clones came to bring back the relics of the past. Now people can do the things that they dreamed of doing back when they had limited technology. These advanced portable computers can do just about anything, and are soon to replace cellphones, PCs and consoles in a few years.
lmao how high are you?
They're completely untenable for basic computer work, you have to drag around a fucking dock to use a mouse and a keyboard.
They're great for being gaming devices but they'll never work as dedicated computing devices just because of the fact you have to drag so much shit around with them.
Nothing, and if Nintendo does crossgen support since they sold 130 million consoles, the deckfags are going to get all the Switch 2 games for a while too.
>valve >not immediately killing off a cool project and actually following through with it
Impressive. Still not buying an 'eck but I'm honestly curious to see how the next one is going to perform a couple of years from now.
deck is the only extracurricular hardware venture they've taken on that wasn't a tremendous failure right out the gate, not surprising they're supporting it.
>index is still a high tier VR option >link was replaced with an app, but the physical device still works >steam controller is still working through a patent troll >steam machines were trolled by microsoft demanding windows be put on them
their hardware record's been fine imo
Well this is their only successful hardware project in a while so better keep investing on it.
Also because Windows future looks grimm as hell, it makes sense to invest in Linux.
I don‘t know if this is what you mean but the deck does this thing where the battery discharges a few percent when it reaches 100% to preserve the battery life. It‘s basically never at 100%
Nah I mean how phones have battery charge % caps, or the ally, or the legion go, where you can set it to stop charging and switch to passthrough at 80-85%, as after that you're taking significantly more power, causing significantly more heat, for minor performance, keeping to 20-80% battery (Which is why all tests say 20-80% charge times) reduces the effective cycle cost on the battery from 1 (0-100%) to almost three because of the lesser heat.
Remember when all the tendies were in disbelief at how cheap the deck was, constantly claiming it was sold at a loss? how did they afford to expand the memory options and keep the price the same?
This just shows the ridiculous profit nintendo is making with the oled models. This is what happens when you just leave the entire handheld market to one company
he's just giving awat money at this point, but, I imagine there's some return in investment from people buyinh steam games on it. I didn't have almost any games on steam and have bought like 10 to 15 new ones since getting it
>held off on buying a Deck because I was certain we'd seen an announcement of a new model by end of year >buddy keeps hounding me, swearing Valve has said there wouldn't be a new model any time soon >buy one last month >see this
I am never listening to another human being about any subject for any reason ever again.
Unless you were buying the tech illiterate models, this doesn't make any difference. $399 is still the same, 256GB of storage isn't enough and you're replacing it all the same.
ally sold pretty well, VRR is really a nice feature too, Ally's actually better price performance because of all the price cuts it had due to the exploding SD cards, lmao. You can get a complete in box, opened ally for $450 from best buy.
the ally wouldn't be a bad deal if they ironed out all the hardware kinks AND there was a decent linux distro for it. it running windows is a retarded selling point and i hate that shills ran with it.
I feel exactly the opposite, linux is a complete shitheap and having to use cope workarounds to play games is the main reason I sold off my deck. Windows lets me just play my fucking games. I click play, they launch, that's it. No proton hunting, no workarounds, no shader naggershit to deal with, just click, and play.
Agreed though the ally was handled horrendously, 0 updates and 0 acknowledgement of their devices melting SD cards, thankfully the newest boards they've been shipping out with RMAs and manufacturing (sept and later) haven't had any issues. I think the next ally will probably be the one to go for.
But if valve can continue to get devs on board for supporting linux in their titles, I'm all down for it, but proton is not sustainable because as more and more and more games move towards GaaS, we'll see more stupid anticheat horseshit blocking linux by default. Sure, they CAN allow it, but will they? The last 2 years of the deck show that no, 99.999999999999999999% of them will not.
the problem is that windows is utter shit in the UMPC scenario and the armoury crate is a terrible band-aid solution. SteamOS was actually customized properly.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sure, I agree, but I'm not using these as UMPCs. I'm using them as gaming devices. If I want a PC I have a PC. I guess if the use case is using it as a proper PC, absolutely, deck might be better (as long as you don't need to use the 30 year history of windows only apps or don't mind bugginess that wine and other workarounds create).
thanks to the steamdeck nearly every problem i was unable to fix on my linux desktop has been EASILY fixed by based devs or by autistic users with similar problems and for that alone I am forever thankful for this little device
Are you fucking kidding me? I havent even had my Steam Deck for 2 years and they release a newer version? Fuck off I paid $650 for this fucking thing and they dont even give me a goddamn discount on the new version FUCK VALVE
>valve knows the deck can no longer keep up with current gen >they release the same shit with an oled screen and steamies go crazy
Uh oh steamies time for your biennial upgrade!
Oled is cherry on top shit.
the switch with an oled screen will run your favorite games at variable resolution at a SMOOOOOOOTH 20fps. deck plays games at 800p at 60fps, ill take some less deep blackeds for higher performance
How long do you think it'll be before they release a Steam Deck 2? In their interview they said that one isn't possible right now, so do you think it'll be at least a few years before we get one? If that's the case then I'm considering upgrading to the 1TB OLED, but I don't want to get one just to have a better performing Deck 2 come out in a year and a half.
This is likely a midgen refresh, so another 2 years I reckon. They're trying to take the console approach of giving developers a relatively stable target to aim for.
yeah but here's the thing. valve can start demanding it if publishers want to put their games on steam. what are they going to do, put it on epic game store instead? valve controls the pc gaming market, publishers are going to have to put up with whatever valve wants if valve decides it's time to push their hardware harder.
Cool there’s an upgrade, but my financial situation is tighter than it was last year due to buying a house, so I’m not likely to upgrade. Fortunately there’s so much stuff I can play on a base model, that I probably won’t be missing out too badly. Hopefully people here who do get the new model enjoy it though.
I hope they're working directly with amd again because I'd prefer it actually dominate low power usage (3-7W range) like it has been than be more like all the other chinkhelds that just cram whatever the newest amd laptop apu is and call it a day.
Why didn't they announce it properly before? I bought Switch OLED two months ago but I wouldn't if I knew this was coming out. Now they just lost a sale because I'm already locked into the Nintendo ecosystem and it's not like I can transfer my game saves to the PC versions of those games.
>Will replacement parts be available? >Yes, we will be working with iFixit again to provide replacement parts and repair guides for Steam Deck OLED.
KEK! I'm getting the new 6nm, wifi chip, oled screen, fan and battery into my first release steam deck.
People decide to actually use them instead of reading fearmongering posts online and notice they don't burn in unless you're retarded and that they're light years ahead in terms of picture quality compared to LCDs
I got mine December of last year, but I’ve beaten like 20 games on it, and I’ve always had an issue sitting down at a desktop to play. So I don’t regret it.
I expect that Valve will start talking with AMD again to make the Deck2 when AMD starts formally talking about Zen6, as by then RDNA5 will also be in early sampling, and an SOC of both architectures together using Zen6c (Zen4c https://www.anandtech.com/show/21111/amd-unveils-ryzen-7040u-series-with-zen-4c-smaller-cores-bigger-efficiency), will maximize the thermal/power availability for the handheld.
The way they are talking about VRR it sounds like its getting included in the deck 2. Does this mean games running under 30fps would actually be playable?
No the problem with sub 30fps is that it's sub 30fps, have you tried a vrr screen with support for those frequencies? It's not magic it'll feel like shit still
I dont have a problem with lower framerates as long as it feels stable. isn't the whole point of VRR screens that they remove that feeling of fluctuating between frame rates?
not at all, it fixes tearing, it doesnt automagically make 15fps feel like 60fps, and I dont know why or how Ive had to explain this to tendies for the last year but here we are!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
retard, no one ever said VVR made sub 30fps feel like 60. It's obvious you dont have a clue what VRR actually is so you can stop replying to me.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
well it doesnt smooth your fucking framerate you moronsky, it fixes screen tearing. Im fuckin sick of you techilliterates treating computers and hardware like arcane beasts
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What do you think VRR does, retard? He's right. By eliminating tearing you basically make shit smoother without the penalties of vsync.
how good actually are steam decks? without specifically having a use case
the idea of buying just like a shitty poverty spec one for 300 bucks seems kinda neat
With the dock, it's basically a full on switch replacement and a GTX 970 desktop PC in one. If you can find a use case for that, it's not a bad device.
deckshill here, the dock is still a little finnicky and has some ironing out to do, its not as seemless as switchs "just plug it in" but itl get there eventually
Yeah thats likely my biggest issue. my homosexual samsung TV wants me to "HOLD ON A SEC, JUST """""OPTIMIZING THE PICTURE""""""
fuck you samsung my settings are perfect dont touch it!!
I fucking hate modern TVs, just want a dumb 60 inch screen, why it that so fucking hard, I'll buy a Chromecast if I want Netflix or some shit just fuck off.
Very good if you‘re only interested in games that are from last gen and before and emulation. Just look up videos to see how a game runs. The community is huge and there‘s benchmarks for damn near every game
If you're gonna use it as a gaming handheld it's great, powerful, not too heavy, not too hot, perfect form comfy bed/couch gaming sessions. If you want to use it as a pc you should probably just buy a pc or a laptop
the idea of a mobile PS2 ace combat machine does sound relatively sick
not gonna lie
Very good if you‘re only interested in games that are from last gen and before and emulation. Just look up videos to see how a game runs. The community is huge and there‘s benchmarks for damn near every game
If you're gonna use it as a gaming handheld it's great, powerful, not too heavy, not too hot, perfect form comfy bed/couch gaming sessions. If you want to use it as a pc you should probably just buy a pc or a laptop
Pretty good if you're interested in Linux and AA games and under. Battery life kinda sucks, but that's just UMPCs and it scales with what you're trying to play. You can also just install Windows, though you run into some exclusive issues, prolly gonna gave to wait a few months for Windows drivers for the OLED models too because of the new chip.
>800p is not so bad >40 FPS Is perfectly fine
YWNBAPCG
No one wants to be a gaymer.
To the anon that said I was dumb for waiting on a new model back in a console rating thread- I TOLD YOU NIGGA
This only matters if you were buying the $500 model, in which case you are in fact dumb.
this tbh, having a steamdeck denied me so much sex cause I was too bbusy playing visual novels and ps2 games
>buy deck 1 >play it for 2 fucking years >an oled comes out >have nothing for 2 years >heh...thanks for beta testing
While you were busy "being right" I cleared my backlog.
HDR doesn't work in Linux. Fake news.
SteamOS has HDR settings, so I assume they managed to get it to work
Valve has been working on HDR
probably most likely for when docked
Gamescope supports HDR, retard. And KDE 6 will support HDR in February 2024
It does on amd
Nothing works on Linux
First thing I'm gonna do is install windows on my OLEDECK
I wonder if they'll update the windows drivers and finally release the dual-boot stuff now.
It was supposed to be part of 3.5 update, I feel like when they officially launch this, we see a 3.5 official release, but there's been 0 word on official dual boot support, and I think there's going to be some issues with windows since the drivers are all a year old.
The drivers should be fine as it still the same apu in the oled steam deck, it's just a die-shrink.
Oh though the wifi chip is different so that probably wont work.
Yeah, there are enough minor differences to hardware that I feel the windows drivers might be borked.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that they release new ones in time for launch but I'm not holding my breath.
Yeah it sucks how much of an afterthought windows support is, I guess they know they don't really need to bother since the Deck is still selling really well.
I get it, they really want to push linux because they have a bit more freedom from MS when they do (and it is a when, not if) pull support for third party marketplaces and start forcing everyone to function through MS store.
Unfortunately, it's not just an ms vs valve thing, devs have to be on board, and a lot of them are extremely wary of the various distros, and don't want to open up their online games to play there.
But, it's just a time thing, eventually, it'll work.
>Unfortunately, it's not just an ms vs valve thing, devs have to be on board, and a lot of them are extremely wary of the various distros, and don't want to open up their online games to play there.
>But, it's just a time thing, eventually, it'll work.
Nah, they LITERALLY just have to make their games work with the good old win32 API like they did forever. They have to do literally nothing else except tick a box when compiling the game with their anticheat malware to work on Linux.
Valve made proton. Devs have to do jackshit.
It just works™
>devs have to be on board
eh....thats the great thing about proton, you dont really have to be on board. You simply have to not be adversarial homosexuals like epic and bungie who put out statements like "If you run our games on linux we will ban you for life, go fuck yourself." the proton versions of many games typically run better than outdated native versions because they dont rely on libdickpeepeepoo version 0.5(broke during update to libdickpeepeepoopoo 1.3)
Lets be real: You are too stupid to do that, baby duck wintoddler
>download windows ISO
>boot windows ISO
>install windows
>drag and drop windows drivers
>install drivers
bam, good to go.
If you think that's difficult or that you have to have some sort of intelligence to do, you've got some problems. I love my deck but frankly the inability to play a bunch of games I actually like to play is crippling. The increases to efficiency and cooling should easily null out the difficulty I face with running windows at the moment.
Time to continue playing destiny 2 at 60fps, now with HDR and an OLED screen.
>Double click Worms2.exe
>Intro plays, game crashes
inb4 doesn't count
It does tho, if you are talking about the gog release being broken since release because they hired some jeets to develop a shitty video player that somehow didn't even work on 99% of Vista/7 systems, the solution is to just launch the actual .exe instead of the shortcut it creates by default. Windows 10+ doesn't even have the directdraw color inversion bug
>winfags try to explain linux to linuxfags
lol?
>"Just try every proton setting until it's less broken"
Also
>pacman command on windows
>"Just try every proton setting until it's less broken"
I have literally never had to scramble through proton versions to get something to work. Not even once. At most I've had to use proton GE to get pre-rendered cutscenes to play, but that's literally a 30 second fix.
Well, I just double click the icon and it works flawlessly every time
except when the game has to run through window's own compatibility layer, in which case it isn't
>use default proton
>just works
>if it doesn't, try experimental
>if experimental doesn't work, check protondb
Wow, that was so hard.
>Buying games
>"Just try every setting until it's less broken"
>Check the wiki
Damn bro I just don't have internet here, am I fucked? Yes, Linux is garbage.
Cuck
>>"Just try every setting"
>2 settings
Man, pc gamers sure are retarded nowadays.
>Be windows user
>It just works, no setting
>Linux will be good in XX years
Yeah, keep saying that
I find it very interesting that in Windows, games always launch, but issues come up later like saves not working or getting corrupt, setting files not loading properly etc. Linux on the other hand has a trickier setup phase but once the game launches properly it usually works better than on Windows.
With the way Valve is pushing Proton I have no doubt that in a couple of years it will begin to work even better than native Windows.
nice fanfic
I still can't believe how bad Windows has gotten. It's one thing to make it a schizophrenic mess with three different UIs coexisting in conflict, but actually fucking up the just werks part?
I miss the days where an SSD was like, this super cool optional storage option that reduced loading times by a factor of 100. Now its mandatory because windows is so busy jacking itself off behind the scenes that the entire OS is locked up on a hard drive bottleneck
Valve has billions to pour into advancing Linux OS, which is FOSS, why wouldn't it work?
Yeah it does it's worked for years
Windows 12 won't even have a reason to be used in a year when HDR actually works on more than just arch
it has 1000nits peak HDR now.
hdr is pointless with oled
Games barely worked either before Valve.
Uh oh
Switchsisters??
Oh no, this device will sell another 500K copies within the next 12 monts... NINTENDO IS DOOMED!
Check out the ravaged asshurt on this Nintendo turdler, lol.
I'll buy it day one if I can play Pokemon and MArio Kart online with it.
If the bezels size hasnt changed then i can just buy the screen separately and slap it into my current deck.
I really hoped that they would release a Steam Deck with an 8" screen and smaller bezels. Wouldn't have cared if it were OLED or LCD, as long as it wasn't as bad as the current one's.
According to review, bezels are thinner on new one and screen is bigger in the same space.
thanks for beta testing bros
I'm hoping the screen res is still the same, any more would make battery life horrendous
Does any one know if OLED screens are better for battery life in general?
I JUST BROUGHT A STEAM DECK FFS
You brought one? Where did you bring it from?
yeah same
Contact Steam Support to cancel or don't accept any deliveries, it will be sent back and they'll refund you
Take it back Paco
I literally ordered one yesterday
Contact to cancel your order or dont accept package when it comes.
OLED uses a fuckton less energy than LCD, its why all iphones and whatnot use it.
From steams page:
More time to play
Steam Deck OLED has 30-50% more battery life. We fit a bigger battery into the case, and the OLED display draws less power. Add in an updated, more efficient AMD APU and you have way more time to play your favorites.
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamdeck_2023
So for what did I buy the old steam deck 3 months ago?
>OLED uses a fuckton less energy than LCD
That's wrong. It uses less power, but it's a factor of like 3%.
Source?
My knowledge says something like 20-30%
I cannot find the video I'm talking about, but you could use this instead maybe
https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/ctrlaltdelete-dont-expect-better-battery-with-oled-laptops-4157895
I'll take a 3d cache CPU instead.
>OLED Screen
>Significantly improved battery life
>Wi-Fi 6E, 3x as fast downloads as LCD model
>Runs cooler
>Weighs less
>Up to 1TB NVME storage, twice as much as the highest LCD
LCD bros... we're getting mogged.
>costs 4x as much
it costs the exact same as the highest model used to cost, idk why steam is uuuuummmmmm giving away so much money tbqh
>no freesync
>no OLED on $399 model
Nah, I'm good. Wake me up in two years for Deck 2.
Yeah? I got 2TB.
Everyone knew first gen is always testing the market, that means cutting corner
Introducing the Limited Edition Steam Deck OLED, a different colorway for the 1TB Steam Deck OLED. Quantities are highly limited, and are only available in the United States and Canada.
>800p
>In 2023 (2024 in 2 month)
Do steamies really?
With the Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware, if Valve doesn't release a true hardware upgrade before it then the Steam Deck will be as outdated compared to the Switch 2 as the Switch 1 was compared to the Steam Deck.
>Muh Nintendo doesn't care about power! The leak must be fake!
New leadership.
4K doesn’t make any sense for a small on-device screen though. 4K output to a TV does and it wouldn’t shock me to see Nintendo target that, but a 4K display on the hardware makes literally zero sense and would make the device prohibitively expensive to the end user. Nintendo has had a lot of success keeping the price of the Switch down relative to its competition and moving a lot of hardware units so I don’t see why they would shift gears now.
Steam Deck also already runs most/all newer releases at a stable 30-40 FPS at the hardware display resolution, which is fine for the form factor and cost.
The screen might not be 4K but there's no way it's as low as 800p like the Deck is. That'd be way too drastic of a difference from the TV output.
Erica shut up
Nintendo isn't gonna have a 4k handheld you mong, there's a hamster in the wheel sprinting to keep my Pokemon running at 30fps current gen
The Nintendo that made the Switch was a very different company to the one that exists now. All leaks suggest that they're focusing on power for the next-generation Switch.
stop falseflagging Eric and kys already
>With the Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware
Retard.
Based on available information about the T239 chip you'll be lucky if the Switch ends up being as powerful as a PS4.
>With the Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware
anon the leaks have it around a 3050 at best. it's weak as fuck still.
>With the Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Switch 2 rumored to have a 4K display and PS5-level hardware
only in the heads of absolute technological retards like yourself
1280x800 is not bad at all on a tablet screen retard
At the size the Deck is, I'd have at least preferred 1440x900.
>800p is not so bad
>40 FPS Is perfectly fine
YWNBAPCG
800p on a 7" display is higher PPI than 4K, so yeah, it's fine
>40 FPS Is perfectly fine
40hz is a really convenient feature when you want to balance between power consumption and user experience, yes
And yet the switch was crucified for having 720p in 2017
No it was crucified for having an already old chip that had trouble running games at stable 30 fps at 720p
Almost twice the PPI of a 27" 1440p monitor (206 vs 108 PPI), actually not even a 27" 4K monitor comes close to matching it at 163 PPI. It's a non issue, anything higher would be a waste at this size.
Same huge bezel? I'll just upgrade my existing Deck
Since it's an OLED screen, does it not run the risk of screen burn-in?
Burn in really isnt anything to worry about with oled anymore.
Some guy ran an oled switch for several years non stop and its still fine
Every Oled does, however even for the Switch OLED, someone did a test for it, barely any noticeable burn-in after 2 years, thats with max brightness and been on since the text begun. Take that as your will
Yes, i hope the screen is easily replaceable.
I've been abusing a lg c9 oled since 2019 as my main desktop monitor. Thousands of hours in games, movies and I've left it running with my desktop running in the background for hundreds of hours. No burn in yet
>only in the US and canada
Lol
All the turd worlders SEETHING over this
Aussies are NOT third worlders.
how so if they are the only ones getting it
You lack reading comprehension.
i just bought one
Neat, if only it didnt run on shitnux so i could actually play all the games I wanted to without issues.
Said no one ever
It can't play Vermintide 2.
If it's that important to you just install windows or dual boot or use remote play.
Ain't no one installing Windows on their Steam Deck, let's be real. Nor is anyone reasonable playing an online game over streaming.
just install windows yourself, why are you even bothering with pc gaming if you are this helpless
>OLED
Nah.
review video of oled deck. its also orange now.
>new panel is 90hz
Oh man its gonna make f-zero GX with oled be extra crispy.
wait wtf where did you get that from???
...I emulated it on the deck?
No man I meant the 90hz claim, but I just saw IGN's review and yeah you're right. That settles it, I'm getting decked again
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamdeck_2023?tab=1
scroll down to specs
that's the limited edition model.
tendies on suicide watch
cool
cool
but...
Does it have VRR?
That's the actually important thing. OLED is great, sure, but if games still can't get above 30fps VRR is absolutely a fucking requirement. It doesn't matter if colors are super crisp if I still have to deal with fucking tearing.
nope no vrr
Another skip then. Frankly I'm disappointed. I was hoping the added vrr support on the OS level would mean the revision would have a VRR panel.
Going by the Tested video- there's no real VRR but you can set an arbitrary fixed refresh rate between 10 and 90hz. So if you can get a locked 40fps, you can set it to 40hz (actually it framedoubles to 80hz) and avoid any tearing or judder that way.
but we have oled at home
they are going to sell the new screen, wifi chip, soc, fan and battery separately right?
That's basically the whole thing!
Maybe they'll do a trade in...
Depends if they changed the internal layout... but maybe iFixit could
Why can’t Valve start selling those in more countries…
Thanks for testing the prototype, early steam dick buyers.
Can you remove the battery more easily or does it still have the weird screws?
Will you guys who already own the old model be sticking with the outdated Steam Deck or buying the new one? The improvements definitely look nice but I'm not sure it's worth buying if you already have the original, personally.
>but I'm not sure it's worth buying if you already have the original
definitely not
I'll probably give my old one to my brother if I can't just find somewhere to sell it and buy a new one
I'll wait for the screen to be replaceable, maybe also the battery.
oled on a 7 inch screen is pointless
most retarded post I've read all day
OLED isn't pointless at any screen size, dumb homosexual, it's just better no matter the size
>outdated
It just a new screen and extra battery, anon
And no, I wont change my old one
and a superior wifi chip.
current 'ecks wifi is notoriously terrible, my fucking 3ds from 2012 has a more stable connection.
Nope. If they updated the specs and made the machine more powerful then yeah I'd probably buy one.
But as is I still use my original steam deck almost daily and have no reason to upgrade it for a slightly better screen and slightly better battery life.
IT is better, it's a brand new soc.
that's a fucking 10%+ increase in performance the whole way through, that's not an outlier or a blip.
It's a 6nm process vs 7nm.
Yes, so, not the same, IE, new.
>tech illiterates see different number and expect monumentally improved speeds
switch 2 will DEFINITELY be as powerful as a ps5 and under 300 dollars btw, bro, I totally swear
what are you talking about? The oled deck is demonstrably, ALREADY shown to be faster than the original. It is a new SOC, it is faster, this is not up for debate, this is not subjective, this is objective fact.
Sorry you're coping so hard you wasted your money on a literal slop test.
It's the same SoC on a newer node with a different power profile dumbass. Same as the Switch moving from 20nm to 16nm but Valve put a bit more on the power side and less on the battery here. Stop embarrassing yourself talking about shit you don't understand
so why is cyberpunk getting 10% increased performance in all tests from the gamestop video, f1 getting 10% increased performance in the LTT tests, and all the other tests showing direct improvements?
because the oled has the same optimization settings that cryoutils sets on the old steamdeck, keep up.
Surely they‘d have pushed an update for all decks with those settings if they actually did that much
>if they actually did that much
you sweet summer child
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Because of increased clocks idiot. Does your CPU magically transform when you OC it, no, it just runs faster, same story here. Node shrink means Valve can push GPU clocks higher at the same wattage
Expect the clocks are the same.
>Steam Deck LCD
8 RDNA 2 CUs, 1.0-1.6GHz
>Steam Deck OLED
8 RDNA 2 CUs, 1.6GHz
The RAM is faster...
>16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (6400 MT/s quad 32-bit channels)
vs
>16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (5500 MT/s quad 32-bit channels)
slower RAM won't account for a 10% difference, GPU clocks (more specifically sustained GPU clocks) absolutely will
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no no no NO NO NO NO NO THEY'RE THE SAME THEY'RE THE SAME NO NO NO YOU'RE WRONG THEY'RE THE SAME FUCKING CHIP STOP SAYING IT'S DIFFERENT IT'S THE SAAAAAAME
Can you please have a nice day
I haven't played a single game on my Steam Deck that does not run at 60 FPS because I'm not trying to run AAA games on it.
I have a PC with an i7-13700k and a 4080 to play those games on.
I have a 4090 but I can't imagine buying a shittier, worse version of my PC to play anything.
The only use case for these devices is for people who want to play pc games but don't already have a device to do so. And for them, no vrr means it's gonna be choppier than bloodborne.
Nah, just gonna wait for the deck 2 in a year or two
>Will you guys who already own the old model be sticking with the outdated Steam Deck or buying the new one?
I didn't end up using the Deck as much as I thought I would so probably not.
the OLED move is just to try to reign in switch retards and other brownskins who are impressed by it
Maybe I will sell mine and buy the new one.
nah, the upgrades are nice but not necessary, I'm happy to wait a couple years more for the real deck. I bought the cheapest version knowing it would be temporary while they beta test it, the new cheapest options dont even have oled.
I'll spend more money when they fix the size of the system and when the hardware can emulate ps3 games.
I already have a deck. Might as well wait 2 years for the Deck 2 then another two years for the Deck 2 OLED.
No, will only jump for next gen. It's a nice improvement, but it's more incremental rather than transformative.
Nah, if my current one breaks and there are no definite news of a Deck 2, I will buy an OLED one since it's the replacement line, otherwise I'm fine, I don't play AAA or anything intensive on it.
No the price increase aint worth the improvement for OLED especially for steam deck owners who bought 64GB steam deck at $399 launch price or <$299 for refurb price to 512 GB OLED steam deck at $499
Its the apple ladder pricing method as valve won't be selling OLED with cheaper pricing 64GB storage and valve won't allow oled to work on older steam deck 🙂 there goes the upgradability point
still lacking in performance to use it regularly
Wait for the Deck 2 for actual performance improvement
Autist has plenty to latch onto apple pricing strat, no oled display to work on older models
Same
I use win-max and laptops more than my deck
>Wait for the Deck 2 for actual performance improvement
This will lead nowhere. By the time the deck 2 comes out it‘ll struggle with whatever the newest games that are released then are, too
No it won't actually but it will a year or two after you bought it
it won't lol unless the game is unoptimized like the current City Skylines 2
Next year 2024 x86 AMD and Intel will release AI NPUs for the first time in mainstream x86 for consumer to have efficient power management and increased CU counts for iGPUs which will get the efficient mainstream version of this by 2025-2026 which is the steam deck APU upgrade
I'm more interested in ARM version of handhelds in the future from Snapdragon Elite or Dimensity
Cheapest version at the time of launch release was sold at loss during the pandemic cuz of chip shortage bs increasing prices for both APU and DRAM right now both are cheap af for both #
Price simply
>Cheapest version at the time of launch release was sold at loss during the pandemic cuz of chip shortage bs increasing prices for both APU and DRAM right now both are cheap af for both
there is no source for this, you pulled it out your ass, motivated by inflated price expectations set by nintendo and chinese shit. Everything about how valve has behaved indicates it was never sold at a loss and that everyone else was price gouging.
If I could trade mine in or have it upgraded for a lower price I would but no 64gb oled option and the fact that no one will want an LCD deck now makes that a no
The original deck can be turned into a dedicated retro game/emulator machine. The new decks will be for playing more modern games.
Once Zen3 or Zen4 comes out for better emulation.
OLED really does make a difference once you see it in person. Although, I really don't wanna spend $500 for a new one.
Maybe if there's a trade-in of any kind.
I'm selling it and buying a gaming laptop. Buying this shit was a mistake, way too expensive for the specs. I'll be a month away in my hometown and a laptop will be way more useful.
post laptop and price (new)
I'm getting one used, same as I did with the Deck.
its great for people who wanted a second deck, otherwise I'll stick to waiting for the deck 2
No.
I play it docked more than half of the time.
whats the chances of just buying the oled panel and slapping it into the v1 steamdeck?
no way, OLED is the biggest meme since VA panels
thanks for beta testing, LCDsisters!
>spend 1300$ for a superior laptop and usb controller
>play everything mobile in ultra
You fags don’t play these in public anyway what are you nerds doing.
>You fags don’t play these in public anyway
Speak for yourself
I own a deck and I hardly ever play it. Handhelds are overrated. Even my switch is mostly just docked. Who gives a shit?
>exact same specs
>oled screen
Ill wait til I can buy just the oled and do a swap
When's the next Index again?
They're preparing it now. That's their next actual announcement.
I don’t really believe this, Gabe had said that the screen wasn’t a priority and that they weren’t making an upgraded Deck. Anyway call me when they release a slim version, this shit remings of playing with a Game Gear with tiny child hands.
>Anyway call me when they release a slim version, this shit remings of playing with a Game Gear with tiny child hands.
Do you still have tiny child hands as an adult?
>Bloomberg interview says that next gen Steam Deck 2 wont be out for another 2-3 years
Yeah that's the one im gonna get since it's gonna be the last steam deck since valve doesnt do threes.
cool but does it have windows or do I have to deal with like 70% of my library refusing to launch on shitux?
So oled deck on 6nm runs faster than the original deck, and fan kicks on much less since it runs cooler, battery life can be up to 60% better too.
if they offer a trade in from the OG steam deck sure. otherwise I will hold off for 4 years and wait for the next version.
same
ill do a panel swap if the connectors are right but if not ill just wait.
So will be able to run newer stuff If buy the steam deck. I can't keep buy new computer with graphic card storage going on?
my deck runs monster hunter world and elden ring fabulously which is about the most intensive shit I care to run
>elden ring
>fabulously
I tried playing that at 40hz and the fans were loud as shit, the deck hot and battery life around 1.5 hours. Idk how that is “fabulous“
my fans have never been what Id call loud, and it runs great on low.
>1.5 hours
plug it in nigga, you and I both know you arent actually leaving the house with this shit. I play on the porch
You need to keep the screen on to download games. Wouldn't this just cause screen burn in?
>same price as the original
Thanks for beta testing Steamies
Not the same price as the actual good version (64gb)
>hdr
>oled
>quieter
>cooler
>better battery life
>faster download speed
So it‘s basically what it should have been at launch? Seems like a nice upgrade but i‘m fine with my deck until the actual deck 2
Also it has a 1TB NVME. The 512GB felt very limiting and that was the biggest model previous to this. Yes I know MicroSD's exist but games load fasted on the NVME.
>wifi 6e
Doesn't make any difference as my ISP sucks ass
Are you seriously that retarded? Or are you one of those morons that uses internet and wifi interchangeably?
If my router isn't 6e enabled it will make no difference.
Just buy another retard.
My connection is 36 Mbps down. It will literally not help.
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamdeck_2023
HE BOUGHT STEAMCUC_K
NGMI
>same body
no thanks. My biggest complaint about the steam deck is that its way too fucking big. If you wanted to take it on a flight it would take up most of your carry-on luggage.
I'm surprised they didn't change the body too. For how advanced everything else about it is, the body looks like something SEGA would have released if they made a handheld 1-2 decades ago.
The body is great, it feels perfect in your hands. Maybe reduce the weight a bit more for soys
>t. small sissy hands
I‘m glad there‘s finally a handheld that‘s comfortable for adult hands and hope they never cave in to retards like you
did you not read my post? My complaint is that it takes up too much space while travelling, the whole point of owning one. For me anyway. I'd never buy a switch because of how expensive the games are but its form factor is miles better.
Probably, I'll offload my old one to a friend.
>we got a second deck meanwhile the deckard is still MIA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Still waiting on Steam Deck 2.
completely worthless
>OLED
>better and bigger battery
>better APU
imagine you bought and beta tested the regular Deck LMAOOO
>better APU
no
it's old silicon
where's my zen4/rdna 3 deck gaben
2025 probably
I did and i already ordered this one because i have a job. Seriously its a non issue unless youre a poorfag.
>imagine you bought and beta tested the regular Deck LMAOOO
I did and I liked it
>better APU
It's exactly the same performance, just slightly more efficient.
so its.. better?
would you upgrade for it alone?
>2 minutes of extra battery life is worth dropping 600 bucks for
retard
I might consider upgrading when they update the APU.
they did look at this pic at the bottom
It's the same apu anon, just a different node. I want Zen 4/RDNA3 at least
It is updated but not by much. Roughly 10% better performance.
Linus video comments says you can't just replace the LCD screen in the original Deck.
>listening to cuck tips comments as a source of info
lmao
This is actually from the channel, not some random cunt in comments.
>Can we just buy the screen and swap it into our existing Steamdecks? Because that's all I want.
Linus Tech Tips
>Unfortunately not, the internals have been changed quite a bit, but Valve did say the new screen can be swapped WITHOUT having to open up the the Deck, should you ever need to do that!
I trust linus about as far as I can throw him. Ill wait for Gabe himself to say no the same way Linus initially said you couldnt add an SSD to the 64 gig model and then did exactly that painlessly 2 weeks later
>motherboard and daughterboards have changed shape and size
It's ogre.
>ifixit deckoled adapter for steamdeck 4.99
I can feel the cosmos
Looks like everyone's pushing it out today. It seems like the launch is probably today, and LE launch on the 16th.
WTF I already paid $600 for the premium Deck.
You can maybe ask for a refund if you bought recently. I know they gave refunds to people who bought decks right before a sale
I just bought mine like 2 weeks ago...
return it if you can. If you cant you arent missing THAT much. People shit on the steamdeck screen but its really only second to switch OLED and configuring color saturation mitigates a ton of the issues. Dont let bandwagoning techtubers make you feel bad
Yeah I'm not really gonna return it, I'm already comfy with it. I just find it funny that I finally jumped on the wagon and this happens. Many such cases
>549usd
Nah, I'm fine with the lcd model.
>same pixel layout as oled switch
LITERALLY THE SAME PANEL
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
the screen is literally larger
You lost, steamie
IT'S OVER FOR DECKARD COPERS
Deckard was a replicant.
At least use the spoiler tag you fuck
>there won't be a steam deck revision for years so buy current model, goyim
YOU FOOLS!
He said there won‘t be a successor and this isn‘t one. They even said in that exact interview that they‘d look at the battery life and screen if anything in a revision and that‘s exactly what they did
That's what all companies do. Your mistake was thinking that Valve was somehow different.
to be fair valve is notorious for release only one rendition of hardware ala Steam Machine and their VR headset
I thought there was already a Steam Deck with a OLED screen.
and you were wrong? Why the fuck would you post this?
Because fuck you I guess.
No point in buying it when I'll win one at the game awards giveaway
>90hz
the hardware is way too underpowered to support this
not for all the indieshit i play.
It depends on the game. Obviously you aren't running anything remotely demanding but for older games and basic indie games, it'll be nice.
>i am a retard
thanks for sharing anon
>what is frame limit
If it has a better VRR range it won't matter for me. I'll appreciate the 90hz for non-game use cases.
You don't need to run a game at 90fps. You can run it lower and a faster refresh panel is still better
good thing they stuck better RAM in then
how hard is it to pirate game on the Deck?
fitgirl repacks and johncena make it very easy
Don't care, still playing my Switch and will be buying the Switch 2 on release day.
dont listen to the other guy, fitgirl sucks. I tried to pirate rdr2 and wasted an entire day installing, just for it to not work. did the exact same process with dodi repacks and it worked perfectly. otherwise indie stuff is easy to install too
>Getting one of these when the Switch 2 is around the corner
Have fun I guess lol
Rumored to have LCD and launch for $399 lmao
Also no Zelda
No way they‘re gonna charge 400 dollars for a tendie drm box
they got away with charging $350 for the oled and are STILL selling the base models for full price($300). it's easily $399 at bare minimum and there might be a deluxe model that sells for more.
>400 dollars for base digital model and 500 for normal one
I would die laughing
>poised to outstrip the PS2's sales with no price drops even during holidays and black friday
>still causing anal pain on Ganker with the next system on the horizon
how does ninrendo do it?
>just 2 more weeks for switch 2 - Boomerberg
huh huh, right
Isn't the next nintendo confirmed to be not coming in 2024?
does the display have variable refresh rate now? because that's the thing it needed most.
1-90
It doesn‘t
then into the trash it goes. having to manually set the proper refresh rate for each game to avoid judder is annoying.
I really hope there's a trade in program I CBA to resell my old steam deck
Also hope it doesn't take them months to ship out this time
>brighter and more efficient display
>more efficient CPU/SOC
>faster and more efficient WIFI module
>AND bigger battery
We are eating so fucking good Deckbros
>3 hour minimum now
This should've been minimum at launch for the regular deck or at least an external battery accessory for people who want more than 1 hour of uptime
I really wish Valve would allow for people to give in Steam Decks in exchange of a discount, if you want the OLED there's just no reason to keep the old one around since new one seems better in every regard, and would save time by trying to sell it on your own
Wonder if they‘d take decks that have their ssd‘s swapped
It's probably beyond them to do this. What will they do with all the old unwanted Decks?
Slap a 256gb ssd in them and keep selling them.
The 512GB models have the anti glare and the 256GB models don't.
Some people might get lucky and get a anti-glare screen then I guess.
Resell them refurbished or something but yes, it's a weird situation because 512GB and 1TB models are replaced by the OLED versions and the LCD versions are on stock out, maybe they can reuse them for parts
If you still have the original one just swap it in again and save the previous one for the OLED version, everything will just work the same
>anti deck autist spends 2 years shitting on the deck due to the battery life and screen
>gets a new model which fixes both of those things
what will he latch onto next?
HATE LINUX
The switch 2 that is right around the corner it seems
Turn on Tyler McVicker. Valve is announcing a new Half Life.
HAHAHAH OH NO NO NO
OLED better for 'ick on 'eck?
But what if your oled 'ick burns in your oled 'eck?
I don't really care about the display. Is it more powerful?
About 10% more powerful. Not anything substantial.
oh
rip shittendo
rip shitch
i will
unironically
Can Aya Neo still brag about better performance? The OLED screen boast is gone, and the price is too high. It seems there's no other reason to buy it besides the exterior design.
>HDR on Linux just works
>it’s still buggy on windows
Oh no no no windowsisters…
Its confirmed, due to mobo redesign/connector changes and screen size thickness in oled, it wont work in original deck. LCD deckies are stuck.
I'd rather get the Switch 2 then wait for the Deck 2, who knows what other beta tests the Deck will get before it's "complete".
I play games on my deck daily, rarely do I touch my switch. Can't go back to Nintendo when they're charging $50 for remasters. Hell, I save a lot of money because I barely buy games anymore because of Emulation.
I was gifted a switch for free and while I like it, it does come down to
>If I buy odd numbered decks (1-3-5) my library Ive had since 2006 carries over
>If I buy whatever nintendos new system is, my old library is gone and Ill be expected to rebuy rereleases
Its a no brainer if you have 100 or more dollars spent on steam
It's just so uncomfortable to use a switch, never liked the joycons, the analog sticks are small and hard to be precise. the button are small and feel awful, no dpad and because they are seperate from the switch body you can feel them rattle around on the rails as you play. You also have a much better grip on the Deck rather than the flat back of the Switch.
The only quality is that it's lighter.
You have to replace the switch joypads for better ones online. Might as well get a whole 'nother console at that point
It's very hit or miss on features like losing NFC and rumble while, I just couldn't be bothered because at the end of the day I'll just play the game on Deck. Nitro Dock looked good though.
get different joycons dummy
>679€ for the 1TB version
the price is kinda israelitesih
just wait a year for the price drop like it's been constantly getting for the LCD models
Isn‘t that how much they charged for a 512 gb model? Also hate that there‘s no 64gb oled model cause they know people will just swap out the ssd
>Also hate that there‘s no 64gb oled model cause they know people will just swap out the ssd
and break their shit and RMA it to valve
just buy the 1TB version retard and stop wasting Valve's time RMA your retarded broken decks
Nice try israelite, i‘d rather save money. It‘s probably even cheaper to buy a 1tb ssd and pay someone to install it than to buy the 512gb model
>no 64gb oled model
Getting a steam deck with a faster 1tb drive for less than the 512gb model was pretty awesome.
It's STILL cheaper than the ally/legion go, that's the only metric they really needed to beat.
I'm supremely disappointed there isn't more RAM this go round though.
frankly it can work fine if you know what you need. I know my local uni uses some proprietary bullshit programs that you HAD to have windows for (Which pissed off a lot of mac kids which was funny) so make sure you can use linux for everything you need. Otherwise yeah it should be fine.
what do you need more ram for?
Frametime improvements. It's nothing critical but it costs nearly nothing to acquire additional 16gb of dimms. most chinkhelds offer it at a cost of under $25, to go from 16 to 32gb with no other adjustments.
People who've hardmodded (IE soldered new dimms) have performance increase on most newer games because the shared ram/vram pool will no longer have to compete with OS level resources (much less an issue on steamos than windows, admittedly).
Can't find the picture but someone who modded 32gb on their deck went from 0.1% lows on hogsharts slopacy of 5-6fps to 20-22. That's an insane change for smoothness.
Anyone use this thing as a laptop? I'm considering it but I would feel like such a retard carrying one around campus
You can, but UMPCs fucking suck as laptops, the general layout sucks and hunching over it is awful. if I HAD to use a umpc as a laptop id use the winmax for its built in keyboard but yes you can
Deck with keyboard looks kino. The Winmax clamshell design is better, but Deck is far more advanced. I've got the feeling that this'll be the future of PC's in the coming years, people carrying around UMPCs as their personal computers as well as cellphones and consoles. The usage of UMPCs is universal and full of opportunities. People will use them as their work laptops as well as for daily use (calling and texting, watching videos, using software for editing / coding, or playing games).
whats always surprised me is the lack of UMPCs in business spaces. Why did onexplayer and gpd have to break into the gamer scene? I travel for work and would have loved a nice small laptop I could fold up and put in a backpack easily, but most of the small end laptops were shitty chromebooks at the time and made of poverty parts.
UMPCs began as a gaming laptop niche but after the arrival of handheld gaming consoles, UMPCs were revived as true ultra mobile personal computers. They were a dead meme for some time until the Steam Deck and its clones came to bring back the relics of the past. Now people can do the things that they dreamed of doing back when they had limited technology. These advanced portable computers can do just about anything, and are soon to replace cellphones, PCs and consoles in a few years.
lmao how high are you?
They're completely untenable for basic computer work, you have to drag around a fucking dock to use a mouse and a keyboard.
They're great for being gaming devices but they'll never work as dedicated computing devices just because of the fact you have to drag so much shit around with them.
it was the occasion to make the bezels even or framed
fucking retarded Valve
They‘d have to make the screen bigger or device smaller then, no?
I would be more interested if I didn't already have an Ally plus an OG Deck
Wow. Nice one Valve, very cool. Thanks for convincing me to buy one over the summer instead of waiting a few months...
This one will barely be any faster. It's just more battery efficient (couple with larger battery).
Are they phasing out the previous Deck's low & high tier option? If so, that just means they raised the floor on the price on the Deck.
You can literally check this yourself anon. They lowered the 256gb to the 64gb price.
the cheapest deck is the same price but with 256gb ssd instead of a shitty 64gb emmc drive.
Regional price difference then.
i wonder how perf will be affected by such a minor die shrink, ill continue to just wait for a real switch 2 that is 1080p
i have enough handhelds to last me till then
Time to sell my old Deck I suppose :'^)
switch oled bros what do we have over deckies now
Nothing, and if Nintendo does crossgen support since they sold 130 million consoles, the deckfags are going to get all the Switch 2 games for a while too.
Online splatroon.
Fuck off. The switch is still better
no its not lol unless you really need to play spatoon 3 online
Only in design. It's not as universal in usage
>valve
>not immediately killing off a cool project and actually following through with it
Impressive. Still not buying an 'eck but I'm honestly curious to see how the next one is going to perform a couple of years from now.
deck is the only extracurricular hardware venture they've taken on that wasn't a tremendous failure right out the gate, not surprising they're supporting it.
GIVE US A STEAM CONTROLLER 2 YOU COCKSUCKERS!!!!!
>index is still a high tier VR option
>link was replaced with an app, but the physical device still works
>steam controller is still working through a patent troll
>steam machines were trolled by microsoft demanding windows be put on them
their hardware record's been fine imo
They are so invested into Linux at this point, it would need a whole shift in the company to pull out of it
Like gabe dying and based phil buying them?
I don't think there's any reality where Phil Spencer could successfully buy a privately traded company that hates Microsoft tbh
to anyone who's not an ardent freetard, valve are pretty much saviors in the linux world now.
>saviors
>Source SDK crashes on launch
I mean they are great, but they are dumb sometimes
yeah, but without them, my AMD drivers would still suck dick.
They can't cover all bases, but they should.
Well this is their only successful hardware project in a while so better keep investing on it.
Also because Windows future looks grimm as hell, it makes sense to invest in Linux.
>already can't play new games but he's an oled screen
Lmao
Why would anyone want to play AAA THOUGH
True
Does it have the same dimensions as the LCD deck or am I gonna have to get a new case and skins for it?
It's the same dimensions.
Are you sure? It looks slightly smaller in the review video...
anon just go to their website and check the specs
it's the same
?t=544
>linus cuck tips
>linus racemix tips
Most alpha steamie
I would fucking kill my dad
future supreme gentleman
why would they make it smaller, retard
It looks smaller because it has a larger screen.
My deck is not loading, its stuck on verifying installation. I dont even know if its chargins since it only sort of boots uip when it is plugged int
>memory is now 6400mt/s instead of 5500
oooooooooooooooooooooooooh.
That explains the bumps.
>OLED
Neat but will be it be improved elsewhere?
If not, why bother?
Question, is there an inbuilt battery charge cap for the deck? To limit it to 80%. I'd like to keep my battery for a while.
I don‘t know if this is what you mean but the deck does this thing where the battery discharges a few percent when it reaches 100% to preserve the battery life. It‘s basically never at 100%
Nah I mean how phones have battery charge % caps, or the ally, or the legion go, where you can set it to stop charging and switch to passthrough at 80-85%, as after that you're taking significantly more power, causing significantly more heat, for minor performance, keeping to 20-80% battery (Which is why all tests say 20-80% charge times) reduces the effective cycle cost on the battery from 1 (0-100%) to almost three because of the lesser heat.
Remember when all the tendies were in disbelief at how cheap the deck was, constantly claiming it was sold at a loss? how did they afford to expand the memory options and keep the price the same?
They didn't even bump the price up $50 for the OLED screen, truly mindblowing stuff.
I always knew Nintendo were price gouging by 3-4x on their shitty android tablet.
Because Gaben loves us
High volume
This just shows the ridiculous profit nintendo is making with the oled models. This is what happens when you just leave the entire handheld market to one company
No I don't remember any of that
I remember several sustained years of bitching about tendies though
he's just giving awat money at this point, but, I imagine there's some return in investment from people buyinh steam games on it. I didn't have almost any games on steam and have bought like 10 to 15 new ones since getting it
because its actually that the Switch is extremely overpriced for what it is.
This will surely help it catch up the vitas sales numbers!
>MUH SALES
What a pathetic state. Make sure to pay 60 dollars for games you bought 20 years ago again
WELL DONE WELL DONE GABEN
HOWEVER
Is Steam Deck OLED semen proof?
'ecker 'etected
I bet we will find out soon
i use deck to play tendies and other coop games on tv with my friends, so i dont care about deck screen.
>held off on buying a Deck because I was certain we'd seen an announcement of a new model by end of year
>buddy keeps hounding me, swearing Valve has said there wouldn't be a new model any time soon
>buy one last month
>see this
I am never listening to another human being about any subject for any reason ever again.
>boohoo I spent the price of 5 burgers on a thing I was planning using
Unless you were buying the tech illiterate models, this doesn't make any difference. $399 is still the same, 256GB of storage isn't enough and you're replacing it all the same.
I got the 512, which is now like, $200 cheaper three weeks later. I'm more annoyed about that than I am the new model.
Oh, yeah, then sucks to be you. Just sell it if you're autistic about the screen.
Steam deck 2 will be a masterpiece
>buying a steam deck revision with the same exact shit hardware when the Legion Go just came out
Who would do this?
nobody cares that you're black. stop trying to get attention
(this is a joke)
>Legion Go
Lmao nobody will buy this. Just like with the Asus garbage
ally sold pretty well, VRR is really a nice feature too, Ally's actually better price performance because of all the price cuts it had due to the exploding SD cards, lmao. You can get a complete in box, opened ally for $450 from best buy.
the ally wouldn't be a bad deal if they ironed out all the hardware kinks AND there was a decent linux distro for it. it running windows is a retarded selling point and i hate that shills ran with it.
I feel exactly the opposite, linux is a complete shitheap and having to use cope workarounds to play games is the main reason I sold off my deck. Windows lets me just play my fucking games. I click play, they launch, that's it. No proton hunting, no workarounds, no shader naggershit to deal with, just click, and play.
Agreed though the ally was handled horrendously, 0 updates and 0 acknowledgement of their devices melting SD cards, thankfully the newest boards they've been shipping out with RMAs and manufacturing (sept and later) haven't had any issues. I think the next ally will probably be the one to go for.
But if valve can continue to get devs on board for supporting linux in their titles, I'm all down for it, but proton is not sustainable because as more and more and more games move towards GaaS, we'll see more stupid anticheat horseshit blocking linux by default. Sure, they CAN allow it, but will they? The last 2 years of the deck show that no, 99.999999999999999999% of them will not.
>im retarded and this is an epic own against not only linux but the steam deck
weird flex
the problem is that windows is utter shit in the UMPC scenario and the armoury crate is a terrible band-aid solution. SteamOS was actually customized properly.
Sure, I agree, but I'm not using these as UMPCs. I'm using them as gaming devices. If I want a PC I have a PC. I guess if the use case is using it as a proper PC, absolutely, deck might be better (as long as you don't need to use the 30 year history of windows only apps or don't mind bugginess that wine and other workarounds create).
Ally is cool though
People that want something cheaper than $700?
When are we getting an official ISO for SteamOS on desktop?
Why would you want that. It doesn't make sense
That'll come the same time as the dualboot version and new windows drivers
>wow great a new steam deck with actually good screen
>still can't run MHW in 60 fps high
30fps is more than enough
30 FPS is top shelf for a handheld
temper your performance goals
Nah 40fps 40hz is the minimum for me
I play docked, so this doesn't effect me much. Looking forward to the next revision.
Sounds like in this use case it really doesn't matter if you have the new or the old one
Valve is the only hardware company where it feels like the developers and the userbase is 100% in sync.
i think the reason it came out so early is that they were sick of people shitting on it for not having OLED lmao
>GabeN, Switch fans are making fun of us again
>Release it
thanks to the steamdeck nearly every problem i was unable to fix on my linux desktop has been EASILY fixed by based devs or by autistic users with similar problems and for that alone I am forever thankful for this little device
On one hand I'm happy with my current deck but damn it sucks to be an early adopter
Are you fucking kidding me? I havent even had my Steam Deck for 2 years and they release a newer version? Fuck off I paid $650 for this fucking thing and they dont even give me a goddamn discount on the new version FUCK VALVE
'ick on 'oed 'eck when
haven't seen that fat butcher around for a few months, might've gotten his IP stash and passes banned
>Getting rid of the 64gb version
yikes
256gb is the same price and the new baseline, courtesy of NVMe becoming more available in recent years, thus cheaper.
‘ick status?
What does bezelanon think of this? He was always sperging about the inch wide bezels, is he still mad at those 1cm bezels?
Here's to hoping the OLED is actually landscape orientation so the pixel ordering isn't fucked like the LCD Decks.
the real story is they removed the cheapest SKU
yes i know the most expensive sku was the top seller
*replaced the cheapest sku
>valve knows the deck can no longer keep up with current gen
>they release the same shit with an oled screen and steamies go crazy
Uh oh steamies time for your biennial upgrade!
>current gen
Oh no, I won't be able to play Starfield...
as long as games are made with the series s and switch 2 in mind, the deck will do fine.
>thinks the steam deck can play switch 2 games
So this is what coming does to a mf
>played wonder a week before switch got to
>will play wonder 2 a week before switch2ers get to
>for free
lmao
Not on the current edition of shart deck you won't. You'll have to upgrade to $550 2024 model 🙂
can you read mf?
Do you not see the irony, tendie? This has way more upgrades than the oled switch while not even being more expensive
>t-tenide!!!
Bind broken
I will just have 2 Decks.
Old one for 'icking. New one for playing
>one for the 'ick
>one for 'eck
so why did people defend Steamdeck not having OLED in the first place again?
Cause it‘s specs were damn good at the time. If it was an underpowered piece of shit with a bad screen like the switch i‘d complain
OLED stuff is kinda new tech
glad I waited though, I'm gonna buy it this time, can't wait to play PC on my bed with OLED
Burn-in bad.
Oled is cherry on top shit.
the switch with an oled screen will run your favorite games at variable resolution at a SMOOOOOOOTH 20fps. deck plays games at 800p at 60fps, ill take some less deep blackeds for higher performance
its not really needed, we cared about the price to performance being unmatched. add it on top of it all though and it makes the deal sweeter
How necessary are the these hall effect stick replacements for the Deck? Do the sticks tend to drift?
Not at all, plus they're not up to specs and have square gates.
I see, I figured since I haven't heard any issues of stick drift, but it doesn't hurt to be sure.
Can't wait for snoys to go back to using the deck to shitpost nintendo threads
>no VRR
what the FUCK
How long do you think it'll be before they release a Steam Deck 2? In their interview they said that one isn't possible right now, so do you think it'll be at least a few years before we get one? If that's the case then I'm considering upgrading to the 1TB OLED, but I don't want to get one just to have a better performing Deck 2 come out in a year and a half.
This is likely a midgen refresh, so another 2 years I reckon. They're trying to take the console approach of giving developers a relatively stable target to aim for.
Except developers don‘t give a shit about the deck and it‘s install base of 1 million
>source: my ass
for months Ive seen devs ripping their hair out over a fucking deck verified badge
yeah but here's the thing. valve can start demanding it if publishers want to put their games on steam. what are they going to do, put it on epic game store instead? valve controls the pc gaming market, publishers are going to have to put up with whatever valve wants if valve decides it's time to push their hardware harder.
>the limited 1TB edition has a transparent case
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
It's based as fuck, reminds me of the old 90's Nintendo shells.
You can just buy one for $50 bro.
Steamie moment
Nigga I'm selling my Steam Deck and not coming back, I barely used the thing for the 9 months I had it.
I deserve it for buying the first piece of hardware a company launches, barely used it too because docking it worked like shit
fuck me
>buy handheld
>want to play it non-handheld
based fucking retard
Oh no my bad for wanting to use a computer like a computer whenever I'm not gaming on it eat more obese cock homosexual
Cool there’s an upgrade, but my financial situation is tighter than it was last year due to buying a house, so I’m not likely to upgrade. Fortunately there’s so much stuff I can play on a base model, that I probably won’t be missing out too badly. Hopefully people here who do get the new model enjoy it though.
are you me? groceries and gas prices sure aint fuckin helping either
>are you me?
Damn steamies are schizos
The performance is exactly the same, what do you mean "missing out"?
It mentioned more efficient CPU.
Doesn't really mean anything, all websites covering it says performance is the same.
I hope they're working directly with amd again because I'd prefer it actually dominate low power usage (3-7W range) like it has been than be more like all the other chinkhelds that just cram whatever the newest amd laptop apu is and call it a day.
Why didn't they announce it properly before? I bought Switch OLED two months ago but I wouldn't if I knew this was coming out. Now they just lost a sale because I'm already locked into the Nintendo ecosystem and it's not like I can transfer my game saves to the PC versions of those games.
I didn't know the deck could run elden ring, might actually get one
yes at ultra low and 30 fps
I play Elden Ring on my deck at medium and get around 45fps
>Will replacement parts be available?
>Yes, we will be working with iFixit again to provide replacement parts and repair guides for Steam Deck OLED.
KEK! I'm getting the new 6nm, wifi chip, oled screen, fan and battery into my first release steam deck.
Will it run Windows or will they keep the tranny os?
>see operating system
>first thing comes to head is trannies
obsessed
>hey guys here's my anime background
Anime website.
Japanese game website.
Tranny OS
Tranny hobbies
You can go back if you feel that way.
>us SISTERS own this website now
I am aware that the jannies are trannies and that you look like this lmao
If I play along, will you go back?
Most people who use Linux are trans. It's a pattern I've noticed. I won't let you gaslight me.
so what happened to oleds being bad? did something change in the last 2 years?
People decide to actually use them instead of reading fearmongering posts online and notice they don't burn in unless you're retarded and that they're light years ahead in terms of picture quality compared to LCDs
burn in is bad
I just wanted smaller bezels and a 60w battery
A lot of viral marketing.
Burn in was fixed more or less, unless you plan to use the same screen for 7 years+
>$150 more for an OLED screen
I got a feeling the Switch 2 is gonna pull the same crap again so we're gonna get a shitty LCD screen and an OLED revision mid gen so we buy it again.
Only got my Deck a year ago in September... fuck you Gabe....
Only got a ps4 10 years ago and there‘s already a ps5.. these fucking israelites man..
I got mine December of last year, but I’ve beaten like 20 games on it, and I’ve always had an issue sitting down at a desktop to play. So I don’t regret it.
I expect that Valve will start talking with AMD again to make the Deck2 when AMD starts formally talking about Zen6, as by then RDNA5 will also be in early sampling, and an SOC of both architectures together using Zen6c (Zen4c https://www.anandtech.com/show/21111/amd-unveils-ryzen-7040u-series-with-zen-4c-smaller-cores-bigger-efficiency), will maximize the thermal/power availability for the handheld.
It was already hard to import the og deck into russia, now i dont even know how ill be able to get the oled one, sigh.
just get the fuck outta russia, EZ
This is a bigger meme than the gaming laptops. A toy for menchildren
The way they are talking about VRR it sounds like its getting included in the deck 2. Does this mean games running under 30fps would actually be playable?
No? VRR doesn't do that lol
How would it not? The problem with sub 30fps is the shitty feeling when frame rates are uneven or at strange intervals.
No the problem with sub 30fps is that it's sub 30fps, have you tried a vrr screen with support for those frequencies? It's not magic it'll feel like shit still
I dont have a problem with lower framerates as long as it feels stable. isn't the whole point of VRR screens that they remove that feeling of fluctuating between frame rates?
not at all, it fixes tearing, it doesnt automagically make 15fps feel like 60fps, and I dont know why or how Ive had to explain this to tendies for the last year but here we are!
retard, no one ever said VVR made sub 30fps feel like 60. It's obvious you dont have a clue what VRR actually is so you can stop replying to me.
well it doesnt smooth your fucking framerate you moronsky, it fixes screen tearing. Im fuckin sick of you techilliterates treating computers and hardware like arcane beasts
What do you think VRR does, retard? He's right. By eliminating tearing you basically make shit smoother without the penalties of vsync.
At this point they're likely just waiting for the price of VRR displays to go down. I expect it for the Deck 2 with maybe a slight resolution bump.
how good actually are steam decks? without specifically having a use case
the idea of buying just like a shitty poverty spec one for 300 bucks seems kinda neat
With the dock, it's basically a full on switch replacement and a GTX 970 desktop PC in one. If you can find a use case for that, it's not a bad device.
deckshill here, the dock is still a little finnicky and has some ironing out to do, its not as seemless as switchs "just plug it in" but itl get there eventually
I've found that some displays really aren't having it, but if you can get it to work, it's really nice.
Yeah thats likely my biggest issue. my homosexual samsung TV wants me to "HOLD ON A SEC, JUST """""OPTIMIZING THE PICTURE""""""
fuck you samsung my settings are perfect dont touch it!!
I fucking hate modern TVs, just want a dumb 60 inch screen, why it that so fucking hard, I'll buy a Chromecast if I want Netflix or some shit just fuck off.
Anon the 1050, which is weaker than 970, is more powerful than the 'eck
the idea of a mobile PS2 ace combat machine does sound relatively sick
not gonna lie
Most PS2 games ran fine for me. I only struggled in GT3's Special Route stages for some reason.
Very good if you‘re only interested in games that are from last gen and before and emulation. Just look up videos to see how a game runs. The community is huge and there‘s benchmarks for damn near every game
If you're gonna use it as a gaming handheld it's great, powerful, not too heavy, not too hot, perfect form comfy bed/couch gaming sessions. If you want to use it as a pc you should probably just buy a pc or a laptop
Pretty good if you're interested in Linux and AA games and under. Battery life kinda sucks, but that's just UMPCs and it scales with what you're trying to play. You can also just install Windows, though you run into some exclusive issues, prolly gonna gave to wait a few months for Windows drivers for the OLED models too because of the new chip.
No one wants to be a gaymer.
This only matters if you were buying the $500 model, in which case you are in fact dumb.
Time well spent tbh.
To the anon that said I was dumb for waiting on a new model back in a console rating thread- I TOLD YOU NIGGA
Well you didn't wait long enough as the 2024 version will be out Nov 2024
>buy deck 1
>play it for 2 fucking years
>an oled comes out
>have nothing for 2 years
>heh...thanks for beta testing
While you were busy "being right" I cleared my backlog.
He spent those 2 years having sex and enjoying life and now will clear his backlog in a much better way
this tbh, having a steamdeck denied me so much sex cause I was too bbusy playing visual novels and ps2 games
>having a backlog
>in current year
big fucking laff
BUY AN ALLY
>mfw new steam deck comes out
This either derails a thread or grinds it to a halt every time
Will the etched glass affect the image quality? I want the 1TB version but I don't want to pay more for a worse screen.
No, it's only just reflection.