What is the more logical way to get around having to install that cancer?
Linux?
Piracy?
Will there be a way to get steam to still work and play games offline?
Steam forced mandatory windows 10 upgrade
What is the more logical way to get around having to install that cancer?
Linux?
Piracy?
Will there be a way to get steam to still work and play games offline?
unless you start working on alternative client, which is STILL not gonna support XP or 7, lmao
Well wtf is gonna happen to the actual client when they do the change.
Is it just not going to work. What happens if I just never update the client I have now.
>luddite and learn how to tweak your os
Its untweakable, that OS is fucking destroyed beyond belief from the core.
It is just incredibly UNuser friendly.
Its made for complete retards but in such a way anyone with knowledge of windows/DOS, it hampers.
This OS, I cannot stop processes I want to at all, i uninstall or suspend/stoop processes, it reinstalls, reactivates processes.
I have literal background processes which tbh I don't even know WTF they are doing, I stop them and they start straight back up, other ones I literally cannot stop, windows refuses to let me stop the process.
Just an FYI if you are into vidya you want every background process to stop except for absolute mandatory ones when you play vidya.
Like anti virus for example, you dont need that playing vidya.
try turn your anti virus off in windows 10, see what happens.
You simply didn't apply yourself enough lol it's not that hard at all to disable all the garbage microsoft services and stop them from being re updated, just look for specific tools that will do it for you there is plenty out there
>You simply didn't apply yourself
I just use windows 10 on a shitposting laptop, I only uninstalled the bloatware and tweaked win 10 I didn't even wipe and reinstall OS, if I did I would have put 7 or XP on it. No fucking way would I install this shit on my PC.
Thing is I don't even need it on my PC either and my PC is over a decade old now so hardware issues would arise with windows 10 or 11, as well as games will stop being able to be used on newer OS.
Only reason there is an issue now is not because of the vidya, but because fucking steam is forcing others to install windows 10.
I can use linux but it is shit and shit for vidya, there are tons of games I have that wont work at all, let alone general programs I use.
Simple fact is PC gaming is built around windows, like it or not, installing windows for gaming you are gimping yourself.
All I use my PC for is vidya, music and watching movies from.
I dont even use it for web browsing. Linux is probably my last option.
First being just use 7 and go back to pirating.
>there are tons of games I have that wont work at all
No, that's bullshit, there are no games you have that work on Windows 7 but won't work on Linux. Linux users have DX12, you don't. Linux users have Vulkan 1.3, you don't. Linux users have EAC, you don't. Soon: Linux users have Steam, you don't.
>Linux users have EAC
And here I thought the whole point of the security built into Linux was to prevent the execution of malware.
Don't worry. It runs in userspace, you can sandbox it. Kernel-level rootkits will never be allowed on Linux for both technical and legal reasons.
>security built into Linux
retard
Have you tried to play on on linux:
Z
C&C RA1, RA2, tiberiun sun
Commandos, 2, 3
Rome TW
Med 2 TW
Shogun 2 TW
Worms Armageddon
Witcher 1
Hitman 2, contracts
Abes odyssey/exodus
GTA VC (works like shit on PC, terrible port anyway)
Bully
Killer instinct, newest one.
All emulators from Snes gen to PS3 gen
If you tell me every one of these games work perfectly fine without having to jump through cunt hoops, basically how they do (mostly) work out of the "box" on windows 10.
Then I will think about installing fucking linux.
Until then I am not even wasting my time looking for a distro.
I don't care enough to look up all of these but I know Worms Armageddon, Witcher 1 and GTA VC work perfectly. Obviously emulators work. Sorry but you're gonna have to do your own research or suck it up and install Windows 10.
Do any of them have intrusive kernal level anticheat? If no then there is a 90% chance you are all good and they will work fine.
Medieval is literally marked as playable on steam deck, so it clearly runs on Linux. Rome too. I don't know about Shogun, I can't find it on my library so it's probably not working.
shogun 2 anon, if rome and med 2 works I would expect shogun 2 and rome 2 works fine also.
>Do any of them have intrusive kernal level anticheat?
None of them are multiplayer games really apart from killer instinct but that is essentially an xbox game, the steam version is dead and if you want to play online you have to buy it on MS store, which I am not doing anyway, play local with friends.
rome and med 2 TW do have multiplayer, used to be done on gamespy but its dead, would need people to find matches and dont care for multiplayer TW I just play solo.
C&C has a revival fanbase though and I do play that multiplayer but that is fan made servers.
The point is most of these games are old, well before linux even had support by the community trying to make games playable on it.
>The point is most of these games are old, well before linux even had support by the community trying to make games playable on it
Wine has been around since the 90s. I played WoW on Linux back in Wrath of the Lich King. The "community" doesn't need to add special tweaks and workarounds for every single game, old games generally just work.
Oddworld is the only one with a poor score. Looks about fifty-fifty. I have played the first one before and it worked fine.
All the older C&C games run flawlessly on Linux
Many older games run better on Linux. Both Linux and Windows 7 and up need compatibility layers/emulators to run older shit, and Linux does that a hell of a lot better.
Great choice of game-
>PS3
Eh? Why you need a PS3 emulator, it has no games.
>Rome TW
>Med 2 TW
>Shogun 2 TW
>Worms Armageddon
>Witcher 1
>Hitman 2, contracts
>Abes odyssey/exodus
>GTA VC (works like shit on PC, terrible port anyway)
>Bully
>All emulators from Snes gen
These all worked in my experience.
You can literally add all of them on steam and play via proton and have a better experience than you can on windows.
Windows 7 is more gimped for gaming than Linux, it doesn't even support DX12 or Vulkan.
Not officially. there are ways around it though 🙂
>support DX12
You think I am a retard that cares about FPS or resolution or some shit.
Its like once a decade does a PC exclusive game comes out that is worth playing.
Just play everything on console and get that one game when/if it releases.
Not been since rome 2 total war when I last wanted to play a PC only games, which was the last time I upgraded my PC.
Sure there are some more games I have played on it since then but there hasn't been a reason to upgrade hardware for anything.
Only real games I wanted to play since then were on xbox so play them on PC (pirate)
Really, what game that has DX12 is actually worth playing?
Oh so now games that aren't old are not worth playing anymore, eh? Funny that most old crap works better in Linux than Windows anyway.
>Funny that most old crap works better in Linux than Windows anyway.
That is so far from the truth it hurts.
You know this, not because you've used Linux, but because you have psychic powers.
Obviously not. Kernel anticheat dropped support for Windows 7 a long time ago so he can't play those anyway. You can't play Valorant on Windows 7.
>Oh so now games that aren't old are not worth playing
In most cases yeah. Any multiplayer game, you are a retard to play on PC anyway, so they are console games.
Any multiplay game is a console game.
PC is really only for RTS/strat games and some Niche FPS games, which I dont play, but I do play BF4 which BF is a PC franchise.
EA killed C&C, after RA2 every game is shit.
TW was killed after shogun 2, I like R2 but every game gets worse since then and that game was a mess at launch.
I wont be looking to play another new TW game until rome 3 or med 3 drops.
There are occasionally a handful of isometrics worth playing but they are few and far inbetween.
What really else is there on PC, shovelware and star (scam) citizen
So yeah, games that are not old are not worth playing on PC.
This is where linux will NOT shine, see
>EA killed C&C, after RA2 every game is shit.
EA had a brief moment of lucidity with C&C 3 and Kane's Wrath. Legit the best games in the series for me.
Generals is fun but not really a C&C game.
>there are tons of games I have that wont work at all
which ones
>installing windows for gaming you are gimping yourself.
at least he's self aware
>steam is forcing
No they're not. Google are. If google wasn't discontinuing the shit steam is built on, win7 would still be supported.
lol wut? What anti-virus? I have none in Windows 10.
>lol wut? What anti-virus? I have none in Windows 10.
How did you uninstall windows defender then?
Actually before you managed to do that, how did you stop the OS from updating, because if it updates, it will reinstall teh anti virus.
If you can answer that....maybe you uninstalled your anti virus.
if you didn't stop updates, its probably you are too retarded to even know windows comes with a preinstalled anti virus you cannot turn off.
Tip is in this image
Fucking hoops I had to jump around just to rip that out is insane.
i just google "remove windows defender" and the first script was from github. works a charm. defender hasn't reinstalled with updates either.
I don't remember what happened to Windows defender but it's gone and updates do not restore it. Maybe it was never there. The service isn't there. Disabling updates are group policy, I sometimes do manual updates but not that often. I have enterprise version of Win 10, so maybe you need that to use the group policies.
Windows is shit and I installed this in like 2016, I don't think about it anymore.
https://github.com/ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover
I can't recommend it though.
I dont actually need to remove defender, I just need to be able to turn it off and stop the process. Its an OK AV.
I used to run AVG but its low quality now. Defender is perfectly fine.
what he linked turns it off too. you can either remove it or disable it.
Thanks but I kind of got a solution from this thread.
I am gonna install shost spectres win10 version on my laptop, that will come with an alreayd option to not install defender as well as many other QoL changes.
Hopefully remo9ves all the bloated shit W10 has on it.
If it works OK on my shitposting laptop I will install it on my PC, if it doesn't I will reinstall win 7, and keep steam in an offline, reverted client state. Meaning I should be able to use steam fine, never update so never need W10 but still can use steams functions.
Thanks but I kind of got a solution from this thread.
I am gonna install shost spectres win10 version on my laptop, that will come with an alreayd option to not install defender as well as many other QoL changes.
Hopefully remo9ves all the bloated shit W10 has on it.
If it works OK on my shitposting laptop I will install it on my PC, if it doesn't I will reinstall win 7, and keep steam in an offline, reverted client state. Meaning I should be able to use steam fine, never update so never need W10 but still can use steams functions.
I am OP btw
good luck OP, hope it works out for ya
Thanks bro
Holy shit, you are fucking retarded.
You're literally a gym bro science equivalent of a PC user.
Take a picture of your task manager then windows 10 homosexual
A fucking retard, holy shit.
That's not how PCs work, you dumb fuck.
>That's not how PCs work
>doesnt take an image of task manager
Means you are a fucking retard and have all these uselss processes windows 10 decided for you that you needed running.
remind me again how many runtimes windows are running....
I repeat, that's not how PCs work. you cretin. Processes do not "run" all the time on all the cores. Background processes use a minuscule amount of CPU time and are taken care of by whatever's available at the moment. You are wasting your fucking time and your worthless life, which makes it understandable in retrospect.
Killing all the processes is absolutely fucking retarded. The only scenario when that would make ANY impact is a heavily multicore synthetic benchmark and even then we're talking about 1~2% gains at the absolute best.
GAMES are not heavily multicore synthetic benchmarks, you absolute fucking mongoloid. You illiterate mouthbreathing autist. You fucking shit-for-brains schizo.
>pajeet to scared to show that he knows fuck all about computing
>too retarded to understand how background processes work so leaves them all running
Show us your task manager again homosexual
This retarded shit is windows 10
>actually insane.
Cope and seethe, retard.
Cope and seethe.
Look, if they actually gave the processes names then you would be able to spot the CIA backends from the actually useful shit
Precisely.
Try find what runtimes are actually doing and you cant, MS dont even tell you, just says "it is a usual windows process"
IDK WTF that shit is and they are like ghost bots, you can have 12 active ata time but touch one to try and find what it is and where teh process is leading too and it dissapears amd is changed with a different one....constantly
Ghost bots...
That shit, well total processes I cannot turn off I estimate that is using 100-200mb RAM
I cannot even cancel the search function, had to suspend it but if I didn't it was using like 60mb RAM by default, unused!
Windows 10 is cancer.
You need to use external programs to debloat and control processes, but it won't really change your having performance in 2023, if that's the reason. Just shut down chrome with 150 tabs without selective loading if that's what you have up.
you will be able to play steam games on win 10 until 2032, just stop being a fucking stubborn luddite and learn how to tweak your os for your own needs
>Not taking the 10 minutes to make W11 do what you want
How behind on tech and software are you? W11 with a few edits beats every other OS by a large margin.
Can you trun your anti virus off on windows 11?
Take an image of your task manager processes that are going on now, lest see if you have runtime working.
w11 is genuinely a shitshow and the fact you can't admit it shows how much of a fucking retard and a shill you are. Even 10 wasn't great. 7 was the last good OS MS has made. it's Linux or fuck off from here on out.
Windows 7 is genuinely a shitshow and the fact you can't admit it shows how much of a fucking retard and a shill you are. Even Vista wasn't great. XP was the last good OS MS has made. it's Linux or fuck off from here on out.
This is how dumb you sound. Repeating the same shit 10 years down the line. Grow up.
>defending windows 11 this hard
log off
I'm not defending Windows 11, I actually don't give a shit about how it's perceived, I've had no issues with it. I'm just pointing out the lunacy about the same statements people have been making for centuries. Whenever a new WinOS comes out, people start shitting on it and defending the older generation, always moving it up by a number. I still remember how much people hated Windows 7 back in the day, and now here's a retard advertising it. It's so stupid.
fair enough
BWAHAHAHA
w11 is so fucking slow i dont know wtf is going on there
why the fuck does explorer.exe have to shit itself every time i open it?
you opened a folder? great, wait 1s because... fuck you
>you opened a folder? great, wait 1s because... fuck you
They need to phone home first and tell Bill Gates about your silly cat pictures
Windows 11 has the best caching in any version of Windows and is significantly faster than anything before it.
re7ards caught lying
>muh luddite
gooooooooooooood morning sirs
>luddite
don't you have a street to shit on, Ganjesh
Windows 10 ltsc
Didn't that stop some years back?
>long term support channel
retard
retard
the long term channels is a waste of time for gaymers, and has been since LTSB changed over. Just do 11 enterprise for the best of everything
fuck off
LTSC is for kiosks and machinery control panels. It's not meant for home or enterprise environments.
Windows 11 version 23H2 is available now. Windows 10 isn't getting a 23H2 update. It's time for you to upgrade, and it's time for OP to upgrade.
For the cost of Windows 10 LTSC, I would be able to splooge that money onto the Modern Warfare II DLC instead.
>paying for windows
>is a CoD homosexual
Of course only retard would say this.
>What is the more logical way to get around having to install that cancer?
Upgrading to Windows 11
I was like you
Time to move on, grandpa
W7 autists wish they knew how to use Linux.
It's just chromium that's dropping support, which impacts steam because it is webshit chromium.
All of the FAGMAN corpos suck each other off in exchange for being allowed to frequent their respective child sex orgies.
I've been using Linux for 5 years because I didn't want to start using 10blows.
Just don't forget to update the rolling release distro every few weeks if you don't want to keep grabbing the keyring.
>Just don't forget to update the rolling release distro every few weeks if you don't want to keep grabbing the keyring
systemctl enable archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.timer
If you're STILL on windows 7 there's a strong possibility none of the games are going to have the issues with compatibility that linux currently faces (Developers deliberately going out of their way to make sure their games don't work on linux because cheaters, maybe?)
Only devs who make AAA trash do that.
So nothing of value is lost when you move to linux.
>issues with compatibility that linux currently faces
for example?
more games run on linux than windows 7 at this point
I've been slowly going through the games I have installed on my Windows 8 computer and completing them before the deadline.
After the day comes, I'll probably use Steam a lot less than before, even though I have a "modern computer" that will be supported by it.
Wouldn't a -no-browser shortcut solve it?
they removed that command line quite some time ago
Requires Valve actually do some work instead of ship it off for pennies to Pajeety Studios in Mumbai.
The Steam OS has had a privacy exploit that I've known about since 2015 (8 years) which allows you to access privated inventories, screenshots and features set to "Private" or "Friends only" by using a code exploit if the person your wanting to snoop on has favourited or rated a Steam guide you've created.
I don't have this problem (i use linux btw)
What Linux do you use?
SteamOS
SteamOS is not Linux
really?
SteamOS/Linux
Download and install your entire library, set last good Steam version permanently offline, make all future purchases through itch or gog.
Real question, if I did that with my library will there ever be a day it will require me to go online to connect to restore licences?
If not this is honestly the better option and I could install like 80% of all the games I own on steam.
Nah, though I suppose if you changed hardware or something it might want to re-authenticate your steam login. You could probably bullshit that through SteamCMD.
Presumably, unless they built a kill-switch into that too. I'm still running the last XP-compatible version of Steam locked down, because I flatly refuse to allow mandatory updates of my games.
>if you changed hardware or something it might want to re-authenticate your steam login
Which I will not do but i have noticed before when I log into steam on my laptop or my phone it asks me to relog again on PC, which may be an issue.
I might try to get an up to date client a few days or a week before the update for this solution.
I could really reinstall all my programs and clean my PC before Xmas and hope it all works perfectly until it dies and I never need to update steam.
Still if there is no steam functionality like achievements, guides or whatever, might as well just pirate the games anyway. I fucking own them so it's not even illegal, not that I give a fuck.
>I'm still running the last XP-compatible version of Steam locked down,
Do you have the installer?
If so can you dump it in a mega or whatever.
Im sure it will only be alike a 10mb file.
The last Steam installer I have is from 2013. It's an msi installer, and it's not the full package(1.6MB), it connects and then downloads shit from Valve. The point where I stopped updating it was five years later. The important part about it is that the command line tricks work with that version, as well as console commands you can enter to force games to run even if they think they want to be updated. That means I can launch it without having to take secondary measures like blocking it in my firewall(though that's certainly an option).
As for getting the full thing today you'd need to start looking into using Steam DepotDownloader, and that's a whole other mess I'm not qualified to explain. I would say start searching Steam guides, there's probably multiple up right now that are about this very topic and will be relevant to the version of Steam you're using.
I think steam will ask you to go online 2-3 times a year to renew your offline session. It's been like 10 years since I last bothered looking into it, so things have most likely changed.
>last good Steam version
By this you mean before it updates at the end of the countdown or what?
Install Mint if you want to live.
QRD on mint please anon
Not that anon, but it's just a really easy-to-use Linux distro. It's literally designed to be easy enough for your grandma to use. I would recommend it, it was my first distro.
Ubuntu (Or Debian) derivative with shit you usually need for gaming pre-installed, nvidia drivers, pipewire etc. and goodies for people that do non-gaming shit too ex: office.
Specifically set up for people moving from Windows over to Linux.
Bonus: If you end up liking the desktop environment you can use it on any distro you like.
I have used ubuntu before but this was in 2009 iirc, not used for gaming.
Pretty sure it was ubuntu
works on my linux machine
What's the problem? You should have been on Windows 10 years ago.
Windows 10, years ago
Windows, 10 years ago
WHICH ONE
You shouldn't be using Steam anyway since it's got ~~*WebKit*~~ integrated right in.
>WebKit
QRD?
If you don't mind compatability issues, linux. you pretty much have no choice of at least sideloading w10+ if you want full compatability though.
Should have been more active in those hardware surveys Windows 7 bros, you have signaled to Valve that you are irrelevant customers.
They're doing you a favor, using an OS that is not only riddled with spyware but full of security holes as well just because it's the one you used in your formative years and you bonded to it like a baby animal to the first creature it sees is beyond retarded. If you don't trust Microsoft then grow a pair and use Linux, otherwise just update to the latest Wangblows already.
You sound like a retard.
I used windows 98 in my formative years and windows XP is the best windows OS>
7 being second best.
the only reason I refuse to use windows 10 and I expect 11 is because of how fucking retarded it is.
See here
>muh security holes
LOOK OUT, WE GOT AN UPDOOTER HERE
0% of my games dont work =
100% of my games work
Yeah, retard
that is correct, i don't want to play any videogames
Piracy if you don't play every new game that comes out. Linux is you have a small library of games you like to replay.
Stuck with windows if you wanna be an epic gamer.
Use Classic Shell
It gives you Windows 7 aesthetics back
You shouldn't be using Windows 7 anyways, due to it being passed its service life and being vulnerable to security issues. also try Wrong board
>vulnerable to security issues
Do you think I ever update windows anyway.
WTF are you talking about
Every time someone utters that phrase it reminds me of those quack health websites that spend pages bemoaning nebulous "toxins", but are unable to provide any information at all(but boy howdy, they sure do have some magnetic copper bands and Chinese medicine made from horse semen that'll fix you right up!).
>security issues
literal "boo" for manchildren
>You shouldn't be using Windows 7 anyways, due to it being passed its service life and being vulnerable to security issues. also try Wrong board
I go to rutracker, pirate terabytes of shit, and nothing happens to me.
Meanwhile legitimate programs keep trying to fuck with my startup time. So as far as I am aware pirates > legit software all day
>I go to rutracker, pirate terabytes of shit, and nothing happens to me.
its what this anon said
These pajeet retards telling you to update your windows OS.
Fuck I ripped trusted installer out of W10 system32 so it cannot update on its own.
Have not updated for years and pirate countless shit
Nostalgia naggers on win7 are still winjeets too
Im not nostalgic for an OS I would rather use the more up to date one, it is just windows 10 is fucking shit and by the sounds of it 11 is no different. Tbh I would rather still be using the same OS as DOS or windows 95, just shit has to change and they have to rewrite it or it wont function on newer hardware.
OS is a tool so they dont need to reinvent it in the slightest, it just needs to function.
It follows the trend of MS releasing a shit OS after a good one, but sounds 11 is super shit as well so maybe 2 shit OS before a good one or we never get a good MS OS ever again.
And with DRM stuff I'm more inclined to pirate. There's one guy who complained about Roland cloud's service, because he needed constant internet connection. I pirated it and I had no such limitation, which is hilarious, I have a strictly better product at zero costs.
Not the first time I have heard or found that a pirated version of a game is better than teh official product.
I mean shit by default any game on DRM will run better without it.
I personally will never buy a game with denuvo, I will pirate it after denuvo is removed.
ngl anon this forced win 10 upgrade has made me just want to get back into pirating shit. I stopped because I wanted to support the industry, but I dont want to support MS or be forced to use their cancerous shit.
What's funny about this image is that the terminal output is utterly trivial, it's just telling the user that it can't download packages because the hostname resolver isn't working:
>"Cannot resolve host: xyz.com"
The guy probably just forgot to follow the instructions to setup his network.
Everyone should be turning to piracy anyway. The entire industry is fucked and needs a hard reset. With repacks and GOG files you can have it all stored on your drive and don't need to connect to Steam to access them.
That way they can fuck off when trying to tell you to change to their new OS slop.
Hit the nail on the head, though in steams defence it is good, user guides, reviews, achievements etc. It has a great interface with every game.
Either way games I own on steam I am legally able to just crack/pirate.
This type of shit is the reason i have never even bothered to use an epic account, I get free shit all the time for epic and never claim it. If it is free, might as well just pirate it.
just fuck off already. windows 7 is dead and forgotten. get over it already you retard.
Give me back my 17% performance then in Windows 10 (and 19% in Win11) of my favourite games.
So you have outdated PC? I don't notice any performance loss on my 5800x+rtx3700.
I understand your frustration but you also have to understand valve.
You are 1% minority. It's simply not profitable for them to pay coders to support your outdated OS filled with security holes.
They would support you if Win 7 was popular but it's not.
Besides in their eyes if you are not capable to buy new pc then you are a not capable of spending a lot of money on steam.
Why would they waste their resources on you?
I have a 10850k + RTX 2080ti
NTA I am OP but I have athalon II X4 and a GTX 660 I built in 2012.
My hardware is indeed old and I have no intention of upgrading the hardware at all as it is perfectly find to play all the games I want to play on it.
That's your choice man I understand it.
But you have to accept the reality. You are stuck in the past and no longer target audience of Valve.
No point in complaining.
let her go, Ganker
PC master race lol
They are using a 14 year old OS that was depreciated 3 years ago.
Imagine if PS5 and SexBox were using software from 2009...
you're so fucking mad
Ahem.
Win 10 is actually not that bad. I refused to upgrade for years but I had to do it recently because of software that I needed for my job didn't work on Win 7 and it's scheduler can't properly utilize all of the cores of my new processor.
It's okay. Most of the issues are ironed out.
>spying
Your ISP spies on you
Steam spies on you, literally reads your dns records
Who fucking cares?
I would like to move to Linux permanently but I have Nvidia video card and their drivers on Linux are FUCKING GARBAGE.
Also HDR support almost nonexistent.
Win 11 is indeed a shit. You only need to install it if you are retard who bought new Intel CPU with useless e-cores. Only Win 11 can use them properly.
When I'm going to upgrade in the future I of course will need to install new OS for new drivers and new thread scheduler but if rumors about Win 12 being cloud OS are true then I'm definitely moving to Linux.
I hope by that time Valve will release their Steam Os to desktop and HDR support will be fixed.
>Valve will release their Steam Os to desktop
Probably not going to happen, and Valve can't fix NVIDIA's drivers anyway.
>HDR support will be fixed
Soon TM. KDE Plasma 6 is coming with HDR support in February.
Malevolent data usage litmus failed
>Steam spies on you, literally reads your dns records. Who fucking cares?
I do.
Stopped playing PC games years ago due to the cancer of digital downloads. Physical media or die.
>Physical media or die.
Downloads are better than physical. Always will be.
Name one thing wrong with Windows Defender.
I just wish I could go back to XP.
Me too bro, me too
Am I fitting in yet?
no, you need to lurk for ten years before posting here
>incapable of making his own OS
>thinks he has any right to complain
>What is the more logical way to get around having to install that cancer?
Come home white man
>windows 10 LTSC IoT 2021
>updates until 2032
>comes pre-debloated outside of Edge / Defender (easy to uninstall with a simple script)
>ClassicShell to restore the start menu
Or just modify the skin, lol.
I understand Edge. But why would you uninstall Defender? It's actually somewhat decent.
>b-but muh common sense
It wont save you if you pirate games. I'd rather not risk, because I work with sensitive client data on my pc and I don't want that to be stolen/leaked and lose my job
So don't uninstall it then, lol.
I won't just wanted to know why would people uninstall it?
Does it affects your performance in games?
There's a few things that can but that depends if a few things are enabled in UEFI.
I don't want it installed. Is that ok?
>Does it affects your performance in games?
Every background process that is not needed is affecting your performance....
Its not rocket science. While there is a process going on that is not needed it is taking away resources that could be spent computing the programs you do want active.
>Every background process that is not needed is affecting your performance
Modern CPUs have enough cores to handle dozens of background processes.
The are no games out there that utilize 100% of your cpu.
I play all the time with browser opened in background with multiple tabs and have no performance loss.
>The are no games out there that utilize 100% of your cpu.
>overclocking doesn't exist
>doent know how to upark all the cores
Anon, you are being retarded here.
If you unpark your cores you can get them all functioning on the same processes.
know how to upark all the cores
I'm I actually never done it because I was satisfied with my CPUs performance.
How much big is the increase in performance? Can you give examples?
I cannot give examples and I never look at things like that, I only use DXdiag for information not install bloatware like speccy.
But it is noticable increases in performance all around,, web browsing vidya etc, and you will be able to find a small program what is basically a simple widgit in your desktop or whatever to park and unpark. Which when you play vidya, you actually want to shiut down all background processes, unpark cores and play. When you general use computer turn anti virus on, park cores etc.
>overclocking doesn't exist
Most of the modern games are GPU bound. You'll have to OC the card, not CPU to get best results.
By OCing your CPU you will gain small fps boost but you will get big electricity bill and lower your CPU's lifespan.
>doent know how to upark all the cores
Do you know that unparking wont do shit if the game engine is not optimized for that? Which is the case with 99% of the current games.
Just run any modern AAA slop you have with thread monitor overlay and you will see that only 4-6 cores are utilized 100%, the rest are only used 5-20%
>the rest are only used 5-20%
If they were unparked they would most likely all be used....
Try it you moron.
I did THOUGH
Nothing changed.
>because I work with sensitive client data on my pc and I don't want that to be stolen/leaked and lose my job
I wouldn't pirate games on your PC. I wouldn't even play games online at all, some games have remote code execution exploits that can pwn your machine by joining a server.
>I wouldn't pirate games on your PC
I actually don't pirate games because I'm that paranoid.
Only buy or play f2p/opensource games.
The only exception was Kingdom Hearts III because I like that series and it wasn't on steam, fuck epic and fuck timmy
IoT CHILD EROTIC
>windows 10 LTSC IoT 2021
Can you tell me what this actually is.
I mean I guess it is a stripped down version of win 10 which is what I would want, but isn't this some sort of official windows version for experienced users or someshit.
Ideall I want a classic black version.
If you dont know what that is, simple explanation is a pirated version where everything but the most basic needed things to function has been stripped from it. Even the web browser was gone, but it comes installed with a folders of exe you would need on the desktop. Firefox, Ccleaner, Utorrent etc.
I have an XP black disc somewhere and just fucking everything is gone.
Best OS I ever used.
It's Windows 10 Pro stripped down to functional on extremely low end hardware, the kind you see on cash registers, or those electronic menus you see in McD's or KFC that you use to order your food. It's basically Windows 7.
I'm running it on my main PC and it plays all the games, runs adobe products, torrent clients work, basically everything that would work in Win7 or normal Win10 it works in Win10 LTSC IoT 2021, you also get the benefit of support until 2032, so you can skip not just Win11, but Win12 too.
I've also installed it on an ancient laptop from 2010 with first gen Intel I5 CPU + iGPU, and it works flawlessly, just as good as if I were to run Win7 on it (or Linux for that matter)
This sounds perfect for me.
Genuinely all I use windows for is VLC media player, WMP (music) vidya and vidya DRM, steam, origin etc.
If I need to write shit I just use notepad, never word.
I am looking for black versions now.
Look XP black is the most seeded version, the OS was that good. Win 10 black seems to be using the exact same version you are mentioning as a basic before they black it.
>unironically downloading bootleg hack by pajeet
If you want botnet preinstalled then go for it, retard.
Otherwise just use Rufus, it'll download official clean ISO directly from Mircosoft servers
>Otherwise just use Rufus, it'll download official clean ISO directly from Mircosoft servers
what, since when? I always have to hunt down the iso and make usre it's hash matches the official ones
WTF, windows OS is always free to download direct from MS website.
Its the activation key you need to pay for.
IoT LTSC isn't available for download from the MS site unless you're part of the program for it
What is black version?
Black version is a scene groupo rip of teh OS, where they have customized it, so think like a linux distro.
What I am looking for is a black version where fucking everything has been ripped out of it, like that anon saying LTSC version of wondows is stripped down, I want it even more stripped down.
When I last DL win XP black which was 2013, it was so much of a fucking small DL it was less that 1gig, like 600 or 700mb, everything was gone from it, all there was was an black skull and crossbones image as a wallpaper a activator rip and a folder with exes on the desktop of general needed programs.,
Scene groups compete and nuke releases as well as set the standards of rips, so like vidya and movie rips they are the ones as the authority and generally have best rips of the OS.
>it'll download official clean ISO directly from Mircosoft servers
>bootleg hack by pajeet
>Being such a fucking newfag at the internetI been bootlegging windows since 1indows 98 you fucking spastic
Look up Superlite by GhostSceptre. It's the Windows 11 equivalent of XP black.
How bad is windows 11, is it just as shit OS and windows 10?
It's same NT kernel as 10 so as far as apps are concerned 10 and 11 are the same OS.
11 is required if you want to take advantage of HDR properly and other features.
>take advantage of HDR properly and other features
I have HDR monitor and use 10. How better is 11 at HDR than 10?
10 is basically broken with HDR. Windows 10 is not aware of your monitors peak nits so how can it accurately display it to your monitor? At best you have to rely on in-game calibration but not every game offers this or they suck ass at it most of the time requiring mods to fix it but that isn't even guaranteed due to games anti cheats triggering or crashing your game.
Only 11 is aware of it and you can calibrate it with their application only available on 11. Not to mention 11 has auto HDR which can be brute forced on all games even emulators which makes old games look better than ever before.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/calibrate-your-hdr-display-using-the-windows-hdr-calibration-app-f30f4809-3369-43e4-9b02-9eabebd23f19
good morning sir
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/176177-how-enable-disable-auto-hdr-games-windows-10-a.html
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_support_Auto_HDR
Is there any comparison screenshots between win10 hdr and win 11 hdr in supported games? I want to see how big is the difference and is it worth it to install 11.
I'm talking about native hdr not forced one
SteamOS for desktop pcs is old garbage form 5 years ago.
It's based on debian.
New SteamOS for 'eck is based on Arch and has new updates. For now it's 'eck exclusive.
You cannot compare HDR through screenshots. Printscreen on Windows only captures the frame from your GPUs frame buffer. It doesn't apply the extra processing by the OS and even it did not every monitor can display it correctly because that HDR image could have been calibrated for that display but not yours. At best you can only kind of compare through videos but again that's subject to YouTube color and bitrate compression which destroys the image defeating the purpose of the comparison.
It's broken on 10. 10 is not globally aware of your monitors internal settings.
>It's broken on 10. 10 is not globally aware of your monitors internal settings.
I'm just going to assume this is true without double-checking it.
My current monitor can dim down to nothing when asked, and it can produce blinding light when required. All during the same HDR scene.
I'm completely content with the range I'm getting.
HDR is subjective to the beholder hence the multiple "HDR certifications" from different groups. One may prefer HDR so dim you can't see shit on a OLED in dark scenes, others prefer searing bright lights like staring at the sun, and don't forget about the people who either want overexposed vivid colors or something more accruate to SRGB.
That's actually not how any of it works.
The difference between the different HDR specifications is the difference in ranges supported - be it luminance or color gamut.
There's nothing "subjective" in HDR specifications, they all are objective by design.
People buy TVs based on their subjectivity they see inside their store. A TV can say HDR but it doesn't mean it's producing "accurate HDR". They may rate the displays objectively but that's in a controlled test scenario not what normies actually do.
HDR certs are bullshit.
Star Wars Remastered BDs are technically HDR certified but they fucked up the blacks on OLEDs so everything is banding grey.
Got no HDR TV.
Ideally I want to stay on 7.
I have saved that as a bookmark as it is like a black version but from some specific guy. I would rather trust the scene groups.
Still I have no reason to install 11, I only need 10 because of steam and it seems I can get a LTSC black scene rip which will work until 2032, should be perfectly fine.
>LTSC
I don't remember exactly but I think LTSC is outdated because they released some updates for gaming, like dx12 stuff and other shit.
If you plan on playing new slop you'll have to UPDOOT
GhostSpectre is a group not a guy just to clarify.
Doesn't look like a sceen group but I am not finding a decent scene group rip that has everything removed either.
Maybe they changed their rules with this OS where not removing stuff is the rules.
I might get this ghost spectre win 10 superlite rip
LMAOing at all these shills desperately begging/demanding that people move away from Windows 7, trying to make it sound like everything will stop being compatible all at once if they don't.
>trying to make it sound like everything will stop being compatible all at once if they don't.
Anon it is steam itself that will stop working, 1st january 2024.
Sure you will have to update but over time steam will just stop working and wont be able to be used on windows 7.
Downgrade/revert your client and freeze your updates by following these
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/6516193260166142363/
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237
You have to use steamCMD?
no, just modify a shortcut to get the process started and drop a text file into your steam folder
I am gonna stay on windows 7 then, sorted.
I am gonna DL a black version of 7 and 10 just in case anyway and reinstall my OS before xmas ready for this.
even epic game store supports thirdparty clients, surely steam does that too right guys
because steam is superior to egs
>he wasn't there during the age of SteamApp/StarSteam and the like
Fucking kids these days...
What's even worse is that they automatically connect Onedrive with Documents folder. It basically fucked up my entire system and now I have to somehow manually separate the two. Every year Microsoft tightens the noose a little bit and the idiots still keep using Windows.
I bet none of you fags cried when they dropped XP support, hypocritical shits.
Take the Microsoft cock or use Linux.
Becasue windows 7 was a perfectly fine OS.
8 was designed for tablet shit and 10 is such a piece of ass it is unbelievable how fucking shit it is. They dont even call programs programs, they call everything "apps"
I bet windows 11 is the same, or even worse than 10.
That is the only reason I wont just move on, because windows 10 is fucking shit
win10 is literally win7 but more optimized.
why would anyone stick to w7 is being comprehension
Upgrade to the OS of the 2020s.
>ubuntu is pozzed with gnome and spies on you
>debian is outdated for games
>kde looks nice but bloated
>none of the distros come with Valve's Gamescope preinstalled
>novidya drivers are garbo
>installation process of drivers requires you to fuck around with kernel
>distros that come preinstalled with drivers are small and not as supported as ubuntu and debian
>systemd
A bit early for year of the linux
Install Gentoo.
>Irrelevant shit
You are describing a desire for Artix with the Arch repos enabled and maybe a WM or xfeces.
always do opposite of what Ganker says
systemd is ok
Valve has dumped a ton of time and money into making Linux a reasonable alternative for gaming
so why not do the same with their framework?
You have no idea how much it takes to move off of chromium based programs. At least with proton, it is using components from already made shit like WINE, Lutris and Bottles.
Great
How about they also take the 15 minutes required to enable SteamCMD to be able to launch games as well, so people who just care about playing games can do so on the platform they want without being forced to another by bloated Chromium bullshit
>shit on Linux stops being supported based on kernel version
>sometimes new version of software comes out that stops working on older kernel
>older version can be wiped off the repo and finding backup might be impossible
yea, I'll stick with windows
Literally not an issue on Slackware or NIXos
>not an issue on shit that doesn't have any users
also no software to begin with, as Linux is so segmented
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^4 ^P
Got a free code for GTAV for the rockstar launcher, enjoy I guess
and it's bad rats
>REDEEM SIR
someone missed freebie
thanks.
>haha you stupid windows 7 fags almost no one uses your shitty OS anymore
>p-please update to windows 11 or else hackers will infect your computer
>o-of course hackers will write viruses that target an OS that only 1% of the population uses
You say this but a lot of viruses still target XP to this day because of how many businesses use legacy software. Of course, these are more organized attacks but the vectors are still the same.
t. Info-sec.
and yet win 7 fags come on this boards with their threads and throw demands towards big companies, how ironic isn't it?
>o-of course hackers will write viruses that target an OS that only 1% of the population uses
Yeah, imagine if hacker would write virus that utilizes vulnerability that was fixed for 3 months before attack and it would fuck over a lot of computers worldwide? That would be sick, lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack
Just upgrade to Windows 10 you fucking moron
The only problem I have with this is with my old previous PC, I can't upgrade to 7
Learn how to properly use a computer, install Windows 10 and use a dual boot where you will use Linux and keep windows just for games, while using Linux for everything else, retard
I know changing OS is scary but Windows 10 really isn't that different from Windows 7
And all the bullshit can be turned off
Plus it's super easy to pirate windows 10
What are you guys playing on linux?
video games you stupid cunt
Stop being a fucking hipster and just use the new os like everyone else. Holy shit I hate homosexuals like you that refuse to be normal just cause they want to be edgy.
>use this new inferior product because its new
>buy new product, consume.
I hate homosexuals like you, I bet you paid for windows cuckery as well.
just install SteamOS
Let's say I move Windows 10, LTSC or otherwise. How do I remove all the bs that comes with it? Everyone always go "it only takes 10 mins to do x, y and z and it's as good as W7" yet nobody ever elaborates on what those steps are. Yes, I'm a tech illiterate. I'll freely admit it.
>How do I remove all the bs that comes with it?
Elaborate, what bs are you talking about?
I have been using Windows 10 since release and it always was better than 7.
Gabe Newell : If they don't have Windows 10 let them not play their games
I never used Vista or win7. Went from XP to win8.
Vista and 7 had kino Aero theme
I realised that WIndows is fully staffed with retards when there's now two different applications for settings, majority of the settings are hidden by default, and the navigation bar for windows settings makes the default Skyrim UI seem sensible in comparison
They have been migrating everything from the control panel to the settings app since Windows 8. Not everything is there yet and you still see the jank.
>Linux: White man's OS
>Microsoft: Indian man's OS
Which way Ganker?
Me:
More and more games are requiring Windows 10, it's inevitable.
SteamOS :^)
What are the main drawbacks to W10/11?
>10
more bloat, inefficient babified UI for tablets
>11
slightly more bloat, UI even more babified for tablets (because 11 was a hasty asset flip of the scrapped windows 10X)
secure boot and TPM required; can be bypassed and the OS will still mostly work, but some game anti-cheats will refuse to work if do you so, so 11 on unsupported hardware is functionally inferior to 10
enthusiasts who buy up to date hardware should also beware that some features like new CPU schedulers require recent non-LTSC builds of windows, but anyone using old enough hardware to run pre-10 doesn't need to worry about this
I remember when the exact same insane homosexualry was said about Windows 7. How XP was superior and moving from it is dumb etc.
I don't.
It was Vista. But it was actually deserved, it required a lot of recourses and new drivers for everything which meant that a lot of old office hardware were impossible to use.
Win 7 was much better received.
But XP is superior.
Windows 7 is a good OS but XP was the best.
When vidya need you to move on fine, but in this case it is the fucking DRM for the vidya forcing us to install a massively inferior OS, worse windows OS I have ever used and I have used all except NT, vista, 8 and 11. And I skipped NT, vista and 8 because they were shit out the box.
>But XP is superior.
Yeah I loved when Xp had absolutely 0 multi-threading support
Or shitty 64-bit support
Or if you had a lot of autorun programs you had to wait 2-3 minutes for them to load
So much better than 7!
win7 was the good one compared to Vista
XP was the first NT wangblows so it beats any 95-98 crap by default
Valve just wants more people to use Linux. Gabe hates Microshit and doesn't want his privately owned company to go bankrupt if Winshit forces Winstore installations etc. This is just another move to get some more people to use Linux. That's also why Steam Deck exists. They need more people using Proton so they can make it better and better to the point where games run better there, which already is the case for some. And when there's enough people using Linux, corpotards won't be able to ignore it due to """market share"""
tldr; switch to linux for the engoodening of gaming
I am all for it, I was MS to burn, I hate bill gates, homosexual coder who stole code now thinks he is some meta level genologist, virologist, climate specialist kor whetever the fuck he thinks he is this week trying to "save the world" by doing fuck all with his money but moving it from stocks to money laundering charity and back again.
Windows just gets worse and worse.
If every game worked perfectly for linux I would have moved over to it as soon as, but the point is games are made for windows, then poorly implemented to linux, not the other way ariund.
>this OS is bad because the hardware advancements that went on during its cycle made it obsolete
There is a special place in hell for retards like you
>this OS is bad because the hardware advancements that went on during its cycle made it obsolete
Yes? I tried running XP and Vista on the same hardware.
Vista had faster boot times with the same amount of programs in autorun.
This is why people who use modern hardware and refuse to update windows are morons.
At this point linux compatibility for old games is better than windows. You're just having a baby duck syndrome where you'll totally switch one day but vidya support is always a tiny bit not as perfect you want it to be.
Linux has better compatibility for games, and often games run better on them due to lack of bloat.
The only reason some games won't run are anti-cheats, which companies don't add as they don't want to be arsed. If Linux grows then they'll be forced to.
At least for the non-kernal level anti-cheats. If you're playing a game with those thing whining about Windows is the least of your concerns.
>Linux has better compatibility for games
Linux doesn't even run modern software, never mind legacy software. I don't know who you're kidding. Gaming developers have completely given up making native linux games because of how updates constantly break shit.
>and often games run better on them due to lack of bloat.
running games through a translation layer doesn't mean better performance, and no amount of sub-1000 youtube linux gaming channel screenshots will change that.
So much do you get paid to post like this?
how much do you get paid to anti-shill?
You didn't answer me.
Wine is not a translation layer, it's an open source method of handling .exe instructions. Microsoft uses a magic black box that does whatever it wants to handle .exe files. There could be any kind of strange and unnecessary processes in there.
WINE is a translation layer. It translates Windows binaries into something Linux understands. Why do I know more about Linux than you?
Then why isn't this reflected in any mainstream benchmarks?
Why don't you show all the data you've collected proving this?
You're going completely off "feel" and I can just as easily say I "feel" windows is more performance than troonix.
You didn't answer me.
See
see
Everything in those posts are wrong and the responses have already completely annihilated them.
>works perfectly fine and still plays all the vidya
Then why are there so many threads seething over Win7 no longer being supported? You're actually retarded, destitute and tech illiterate
You're a paid anti-shill peddling disinformation. All you know is tranny slogans and tranny dick size.
>Do you seriously expect me to horde all the data on all the games I have just to prove a point to you or something?
Yeah, if you're going make a retarded claim that troonix performs better. Otherwise I can just as easily dismiss everything you say and say Windows is better.
Steam for one, you absolute brain damaged retarded LOL. Look what thread you're posting in LMAO
see
see
see
You're a paid shill peddling disinformation. All you know is corporate slogans and Bill Gates' dick size.
>Why don't you show all the data you've collected proving this?
Do you seriously expect me to horde all the data on all the games I have just to prove a point to you or something?
As a recent example I can say Robocop Rogue City ran roughly 71-80 FPS on Win 10, while on linux it ran at 88-96. I do have an AMD processor and card, and I wouldn't attempt it if I didn't.
Anon even with the compatibility software running on non-linux games, I get better framerates than on Windows 10. It's marginal, a difference of 8 or 9 frames, but it's absolutely an improvement. I don't need a youtube channel to tell me that, I can boot into my Linux OS and see that.
>Re7ards are too poor to upgrade their machine for 10/11
>Re7ards are too retarded to use Linux
There isn't a single argument for using out of support operating systems. If you truly want to use something out of date, go back to 98 or XP and cry more at the lack of support.
No operating system offers lifetime support, and software suppliers shouldn't be expected to support operating systems that don't have vendor support.
monstrous goycattle impression my dude, i couldn't write something this subtly braindead if i tried
I switched to Fedora KDE in 2019 so this whole Steam not working thing is a non-issue.
Damn, it sure feels great not being a retard.
It's to filter you fucking retards.
Just fucking install it, you absolute schizo.
Swapped from w7 to Linux on my desktop, I've been running Linux on my laptop since 2010. It is time to give up on being a baby duck and learn something new.
>Win7 retards are seething, announcing to everyone how fucking retarded they are
Keep in up, nothing fills me with more joy than knowing destitute tech illiterate ziggers are going to be dropped by Steam.
>Linux?
Yes
>Piracy?
Yes
>Will there be a way to get steam to still work and play games offline?
Just don't update
i think i'll stay with windows 10
Telling people to go to Windows 10 is the exact same thing as people who want to stay on Windows 7, except even more retarded because you don't realize that it's the same. The expiration date for Windows 10 has already been announced and you think you're being smart by staying on it.
If you decide to update, you're being pressured to give up your preferred OS even though no matter what you update to it's only a matter of time before it becomes outdated, so you might as well just keep updating to the latest version.
>so you might as well just keep updating to the latest version
No need to install 11 over 10 unless you have israelitetel cpu with castrated e-cores.
11 has a lot of issues just a month a go there was a bug that bricks your win 11 install if you had ayymd card.
Or there was another bug where ssd performance was garbage
Or there was a bug where your home folder could be deleted automatically
11 is still unstable.
It's the default rule of the Windows. Update to latest version only when really necessary or new one comes out and previous one is more or less stable
At this rate it's better to stay on 10 and wait for 12.
Dunno how long ago was this implemented, try updating
https://pureinfotech.com/download-windows-10-iso-create-bootable-usb-rufus/
Windows 11 is flawless in my experience, again you're just a pedophile scared to upgrade due to advanced telemetry
Did you even read my post? BRICKING INSTALL AND DELETING PERSONAL DATA is flawless experience?
>if it works for me then it's perfect and everyone else is lying
Retard
If I was afraid of telemetry I wouldn't install 10. It's the same shit as 11 in terms of spying.
seethe more pedo scum and enjoy prison, they don't have computers at all in there!
>No need to install 11 over 10 unless you have israelitetel cpu with castrated e-cores.
>11 has a lot of issues just a month a go there was a bug that bricks your win 11 install if you had ayymd card.
>Or there was another bug where ssd performance was garbage
>Or there was a bug where your home folder could be deleted automatically
windows sissas? our response?
Don't buy AMD
That bug was fixed.
Never happened to me, and even if it did I have backups.
>Don't buy AMD
Not an argument. OS should work with all hardware types, user shouldn't buy specific card to run OS safely
You don't buy AMD because its generations behind the competition, not because it doesn't work. Also, tell that to troonix users.
Amd is good for mid range and budged tiers. And I say this as Nvidia owner.
Nvidia is too israeli with VRAM for their mid range cards.
Because of that amd cards age better.
Of course Nvidia's top tier gpus like 4090 are still the best but you know that they are bought by rich minority. Just look at the steam charts.
>Amd is good for mid range and budged tiers. And I say this as Nvidia owner.
No they aren't. AMD is, in all objective measures complete garbage and is purchased by complete idiots or troonix users. Pure rasterised performance isn't a metric anyone cares about anymore.
If you're Windows, you buy nvidia because AMD is garbage.
If you're Troonix, you buy AMD because nvidia support on troonix is garbage.
Nvidia works better on linux than it does on windows. Funny how not having an OS that eats 50% of your ram helps.
>Nvidia works better on linux than it does on windows.
lol
>Funny how not having an OS that eats 50% of your ram helps.
LOL
Are the troons in the room with us now?
Just update chud, what are you, a pedophile? an incel? Probably both.
>chud
Go back tranny
>When will Windows 12 be released?
According to reports, the next major version of Windows is going to launch at some point in 2024, roughly three years after Windows 11's debut
W11 is another Vista
>W11 is another Vista
everything after 7 is another vista. some are more half-baked and shitty than others, but they're all half-baked and shitty. people who insist it's still "every other" are big time copers.
People who are scared to upgrade their OS are always pedophiles scared of getting their CP collection found out.
Linux, obviously.
Genuine question: For what reason would you be using 7? At least Linux has security updates happening for it, let alone functionality upgrades and programs that'll work for the next decade.
They're destitute and tech illiterate ziggers gaming on laptops from 2011.
They're tech illiterate pedophiles who never upgraded to W10 because they feared the privacy changes and updated telemetry.
>security updates
What are you, a retard?
Do you install viruses and run exes every day.
I use windows 7 because it is a good OS, I needed it to play games so had to uninstall windows XP and have not needed any other OS since.
This BS that the fucking DRM of all things are doing is the first reason i have had any sort of inkling to have to change OS for over 10 years.
>I use windows 7 because it is a good OS
>Makes countless threads because support is waning
Saying something good without qualifying it doesn't make it true.
The fact is, you're either poor or retarded.
>muh security
You are not Tony Stark. No hacker is going to hack into your worthless computer that contains jack all value. You are not as important as you think you are.
>You are not Tony Stark sir. No sir. Do NOT redeem the Linux sir. Redeem Windows sir. YOU NEED SIR!!!!!
No thank you, Rakshit
Cool, post the passwords to all your shit here.
No one will log into them. There's nothing of value in those accounts.
What type of homosexualry comment is this.
People will get your passwords by brute forcer or you beinga retard and installing a keylogger.
I am not a retard and even brute force fags can brute force, 2FA is on anything secure and I just change passwords back.
Plus I aint got shit digital they could steal.
Either way updating your windows OS will do no help to avoid either.
You are a retard.
>brute forcing a password
>in 2023
lmao
What, you think using a bot is not brute forcing?
Are you mentally retarded?
Anon if a bot manages to brute force your password than:
1) your password is so simple a retard can figure it out
2) your password was used in another website that was cracked
3) The website you used it for was retarded and enforced an 8-character limit or some crap
It's crazy seeing people like this with no technology common sense in 2023. There are a dozen ways to get windows 10 and 11 without tracking now. You can use Rufus, Shut up 10, pinhole, adguard. There's a ton of ways to deal with it. It's crazy seeing dumb ass zoomers like this who are incapable of doing a Google search.
It's all a big LARP. These people will complain about "muh privacy" while not even hosting their own DNS or firewall. Embarrasing.
>It's crazy seeing people like this with no Ganker common sense in 2023. There are a dozen ways to follow threads, clicking on numbers of the previous post, using the mouse wheel to scroll the page or even using Ganker X now You can use 4plebs and shut up and stop being a homosexual, follow a post by 1 click, fagguard against retards by clicking hide post. There's a ton of ways to follow threads . It's crazy seeing dumb ass newfags like this who are incapable of using an actual search engine but instead use advertising platforms like a Google search when they could have easily just followed the thread.
>complain about "muh privacy
Not once in the entire thread has anyone complained about the telemetry in W10.
the issue is windows 10 is a shit OS...
Fucking homosexuals
You can't even explain how 10 or 11 are shit.
7 is objectively trash.
>It's out of support
>The UI is garbage
>Task manager is trash
>It's slower than 10/11
>Software doesn't work on it any more
>It doesn't work with newer CPUs
Face it you poorfag, 7 is only used by destitute tech illiterate ziggers and it makes my happy knowing how mad this makes you.
>7 is only used by destitute tech illiterate ziggers
Ziggers? Why Russians specifically? I'm Russian and I use win10 and everyone I know use 10 or 11, even my tech illiterate 50 yo boomer neighbor.
Majority of Russians are not THAT poor and can afford modern pc.
You might've confused us with Brazilians. I think they have much worse financial situation and therefore a lot of people still use win7 on old pcs
>You can't even explain how 10 or 11 are shit.
If you learned how to follow a thread all the answers have already been posted.
Lurk moar its never enough
also
>It's out of support
What retard even updates windows anyway.
>If you learned how to follow a thread all the answers have already been posted.
There isn't a single answer in this thread.
>What retard even updates windows anyway.
Everyone who isn't a tech illiterate retard.
>There isn't a single answer in this thread.
>didn't follow thread
>says there are no answers
Why are you such a retard?
Fuck knows why i spoonfeed a retard who is too retarded to follow a thread
>Everyone who isn't a tech illiterate retard.
>update windows OS for no reason
>dont update it, works perfectly fine and still plays all the vidya
Seems you are tech illiterate, you dont even know why you are updating shit for, just being an MS goy
>What retard even updates windows anyway
Anyone who wants to play games? Do you know that most dx12 games require you to have latest update because new dx12 functions were shipped after win10 release?
>Nvidia works better on linux than it does on windows
Lolno. Their drivers are legit poop, I have Nvidia gpu and I tried linux.
Their control panel on linux is so barebones. It lacks all of those 3d settings you have in Windows like forcing AA and anisotropic filtering.
The only thing you can do is change resolution and screen refresh rate. No I'm not making shit up. It's THAT bad.
>Funny how not having an OS that eats 50% of your ram helps
Come on, I have 16 gb ram and I'm running right now AAA slop + browser and it only uses 7 gb.
When nothing is running it's barely 3 gb.
You downloaded a server distro or a meme distro like kali. You could have controlled everything if you were using Lutris as your launcher
>When nothing is running it's barely 3 gb.
That's ridiculously high.
>You downloaded a server distro or a meme distro like kali
What distro has anything to do with driver's UI? It's the same for every disto.
This shit? It shows in the game launcher
>This shit? It shows in the game launcher
I'm talking about options like on this pic. They are missing on linux drivers
nvidia-settings still doesn't have a wayland equivalent LOL
It shows in the game launcher for Lutris. Idk about steam
So what's with fags and pretending Windows 7 is any different to current Windows shit?
If you're too scared to learn a new UI just download some shit that changes it.
You get around it by not being a retard updating at every opportunity.
One day your outdated steam client won't connect to Steam services and will you do then?
They will update to a supported OS and fall in line like everyone else. In the meantime, everyone is laughing at them.
Goldberg/ALI213 or any other steam emulator
>But how will you download your games
steamCMD
>BootStrapperInhibitAll
What does that even do? Like, functionality wise.
>Steam forced mandatory windows 10 upgrade
Mandatory Windows 10 upgrade was forced by Microsoft even before Windows 10 was released. It's pretty much known now that when Microsoft OS stop being supported software manufacturers stop support it as well. If you thought that Windows 7 would be supported for eternity then you're retard.
>windows 10 upgrade
>What is the more logical way to get around having to install that cancer?
Jumping Linux.
Windows 11 is worse than 10, so you have literally no other choice but to use Linux.
The problem of W7 homosexuals is that they're prime example of nagger cattle bred by Microshit with complete computer illiteracy. They don't know why it's important to have up to date system. They don't know what did it take for both software developers and Microsoft to support wide variety of Windows versions in order for them to say "well, this shit just works on my OS". And when one of actor decided "fuck this, I don't want to support obsolete shit" W7 trannies will become hysterical because for them Microsoft somehow fucks them over by forcing them to upgrade their systems (not like there were fucked even on W7).
And of course they're too retarded to switch to Linux where developers respects your freedom and privacy.
You also forgot to mention windows is bloated on purpose. A lot of companies and governments pay Microsoft a lot of money to ensure that their legacy programs run on modern windows hardware. This means a lot of useless legacy code which could be streamlined is left in.
That's true, and what is more scary is that some other developers will still use some of obsolete components for their software because they would think that it's still actively maintained. Example: Persona 4 Golden which was released on Windows 2020 has problems on Linux because it was dependent of a fucking WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 9 which for some retarded reason was still existing in Windows 10 (I bet for compatibility with some old ass shit software).
>Windows media player 9
Damn I miss that shell. That and Winamp.
>important to have up to date system
But it is not though.
go on tell us rajesh why we need to redeem the new MS botnet so you can get paid a quick rupee from your israeli overlords.
Only reason to upgrade an OS is why a vidya wont play on they old, and no good vidya has come out worth upgrading for.
>But it is not though.
You're retard and I've already explained why is it important and why you don't UNDERSTAND it. Maybe you should take some ADHD medications if you can't read past 2 sentences.
game?
Insurgency: Sandstorm
>I've already explained why is it important
But you didn't, tehre is zero fucking reason to upgrade the OS security updates.
Beinga retard and installing a virus is your doing and AV job to stop you.
Being a retard and thinking there are any games on PC with DX12 to play is you just being a retard....
Being a super retard where you install a game and you think it doesnt automatically come with the next DX12 distro but windows security updates do is you being too much of a jenkem huffing pajeet that it turned you into captain super retard, king of retards
>tehre is zero fucking reason to upgrade the OS security updates.
I haven't even mention any security upgrades, I guess you really need to take your medication.
>Being a retard and thinking there are any games on PC with DX12 to play is you just being a retard....
So you only play old games? Good for you. I want to play new ones too.
where you install a game and you think it doesnt automatically come with the next DX12 distro but windows security updates do
This is exactly the case. Steam only ships VC++ and .NET redists.
If you tried actually looking at system requirements of new games on steam page all of them specify that you need at least Version 2004 (May 2020 Update) for dx12 ultimate.
Yes, it's shipped by only with OS now.
>underhand reload
nogunz animator spotted
>Re7ards are too poor to upgrade their machine for 10/11
>Re7ards are too retarded to use Linux
There isn't a single argument for using out of support operating systems. If you truly want to use something out of date, go back to 98 or XP and cry more at the lack of support.
No operating system offers lifetime support, and software suppliers shouldn't be expected to support operating systems that don't have vendor support.
>support
>support
What support are you getting akhmed
see
i fucking loved on windows 7 when you clicked on a google link and the website got hacked then redirected you to a drive-by download that installed a trojan horse on your pc
there are organized tranny hackers on discord that hack windows 7 users so enjoy being owned by the 41%, because you couldn't accept steve ballmer (pbuh) wisdom
just don't be a retard retard. never had your problem. browser should always ask before downloading anything anyway
retarded zoomers detected
windows 7 is just fucking insecure as shit, it doesn't matter your opsec. if you think i'm running executable files from a .ru domain then you're out of your mind. there were zero-days that were never patched within the life of the OS that enabled drive-by downloads even if you had firefox with ublock and a bunch of Ganker recommended add-ons to prevent bullshit
Sounds like a you being a retard problem.
I have never experienced any off this bullshiot and fuck would my AV not even clock a fucking download of all things.
What shitty AV did you uses that allowed you to download a virus without scanning it, but allowed you to then run the exe as well.
These net protection services are in place so even children dont fuck your computer up.
Yet you are a retard install a virus from a website...
This is a you issue
>licked on a google link and the website got hacked
>drive-by download
>too retarded to install an adblocker
>too retarded to instal net protection
>too retarded to install an AV
>retarded enough to click on an EXE that installs a virus
>its all because I didn't update my windows OS
No, its because you are a retard
Windows 10 is dogshit though. Windows 7 is unironically much more comfortable to use everyday. And the backlog of older good video games is so vast that it ll be quite some time. I have a win 10 install when i really need to play a win 10 game, but not way i'd ever use that win10 garbage, i'm not a fan of AIDS
Why can't Microsoft make their OS comfy again? I think i might even pay to get a comfy OS that works with no bullshit. Meanwhile sticking with old shit.
>Why can't Microsoft make their OS comfy again?
Because spying on you is more profitable.
>Nostalgia nagger
>retro shit
>comfy
Kek
>nostalgia
i dont know man im playing yakuza zero rn and its working perfectly on w7 only very few games require w10
Linux
>NOOOOO! GRUG NO WANT USE SPEAR!! GRUG WANT USE ROCK ALWAYS!!!!!
I switched to win10 like 2 years ago and now you couldn't force me to back to win7.
Windows 7 doesn't support modern GPUs and CPUs, so you don't have a gaming machine anyway, why do you even care about Steam? You're probably a console gamer/Switch fag, or just a rando using this board for your daily shitposting, in which case go fuck yourself.
i had a rx6600 that ran everything, we re not there yet .
and there are few games that require w10.
meaning i boot w10 very rarely to play these games and then go back to w7 to live my comfy w7 lifestyle
Im an idort not a retard fanboy like you.
My PC is over a decade old built for the last game on PC I wanted to play TW rome 2...
>too poor for supported windows
>too retarded for linux
Windows is totally free tho
Free = free modifiable and redistributable
PC Gaming is for Cucks
You got called a consolecuck once and never recovered
>too poor for supported windows
>too retarded for linux
>both wintards and troonix users hate me
>my games and software no longer work
>try spin some narrative that updating is bad and everyone is laughing at me
>paying for windows
Retards, he obviously meant "poor" as in "I can't afford new pc"
>obviously
>€11.49 is too expensive for re7ards
>implying you can't get windows 11 legally for free
MAS can literally generate an official key for free, it will be tied to your account and stored on MS servers, it will work even if you format your PC and reinstall the OS.
Or you could pay some scammer €11.49 , I guess.
You can no longer upgrade from 7/8 for free.
>paying for windows
>paying for windows
for what reason?
>too poor for supported windows
>too retarded for linux
>both wintards and troonix users hate me
>my games and software no longer work
>try spin some narrative that updating is bad and everyone is laughing at me
>try to pretend windows 7 is better when i haven't even used 10 or 11 because my pc isn't good enough
I'd give Ubuntu another go but I remember that the Drivers for Nvidia were not great.
Anyone using Linux with Nvidia is a retard. There still isn't any nvcp / nvidia-settings equivalent on Wayland and even then it barely works.
It's fine if you use xorg instead of wayland
just install LTSC you retard
>running a gimped version of windows for absolutely no discernible reason
Named some high quality features in regular windows that isn't present in LTSC
Except for how it doesn't get "feature" updates that break your system every other week and only has the essentials so you can build up on them, for example it doesn't have the windows store but you can bring it back with 1 command (why though).
It's Windows as it should be, only the functional basics so you can focus on doing whatever else.
11fags begone.
I haven't had any features break my machine on Windows 11 Pro.
You realise you're further solidifying my argument that re7ards are both poor (can't afford €11.49) and retarded (can't figure out a free licence)
>Microsoft Store apps: Windows LTSC does not include the Microsoft Store or any pre-installed Microsoft Store apps. This means that you will need to download and install any apps that you want to use from outside sources.
>Co-pilot is absent
>Live Tiles: Live Tiles, the dynamic tiles on the Start menu in Windows 11 Pro, are not available in Windows LTSC.
>Widgets: Widgets, the interactive panels that can be added to the desktop in Windows 11 Pro, are not available in Windows LTSC.
>Snap Layouts: Snap Layouts, the feature that allows you to quickly arrange windows in different layouts in Windows 11 Pro, is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Desktop Groups: Desktop Groups, the feature that allows you to create and manage multiple desktops in Windows 11 Pro, is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Microsoft Teams integration: Windows 11 Pro includes integration with Microsoft Teams, which allows you to chat with colleagues and join meetings directly from the Taskbar. This integration is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Android app support: Windows 11 Pro includes support for running Android apps on your PC. This support is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Some enterprise features: Windows LTSC is designed for devices that need to be stable and secure, so it does not include some enterprise features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as AppLocker, Device Guard, and BitLocker.
Any more positives?
I've given a list. Also, Windows 11 looks better and performs faster than LTSC.
Meanwhile, you haven't given a single reason for running LTSC.
Your post gave 9 great reasons to use LTSC.
I get more value out of my PC than you simply because you're running LTSC. There's also
>Microsoft Edge mode - This mode allows you to open legacy websites that require Internet Explorer 11 directly in Microsoft Edge.
>Taskbar customization - Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the Taskbar as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot drag and drop apps to the Taskbar or create custom toolbars.
>Context menu customization - Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the context menu as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot add or remove custom items from the context menu.
>File Explorer tabs - File Explorer tabs allow you to open multiple folders in a single window. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Virtual desktops - Virtual desktops allow you to create multiple desktops on your PC and switch between them. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Some accessibility features - Windows LTSC does not include some accessibility features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as the Magnifier and Narrator.
>Some gaming features - Windows LTSC does not include some gaming features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as the Game Bar and Auto HDR.
LTSC users are all hipster retards who are incapable of explaining a single benefit to using LTSC.
LTSC looking better and better the more positives you post.
And yet here you are, 4 posts in incapable of giving one (1) reason to run LTSC.
Windows 11 Pro is also faster than LTSC.
>giving one (1) reason to run LTSC.
It does not include Microsoft Store by default or any pre-installed Microsoft Store apps. And other classic hits.
You need the store for Game Pass, so you're gonna install it anyway.
>but I don't use le goy pass
yeah, right, have fun paying $60 for the newest slop while I play it for "free" legally
>caring about doing things legally
Nobody's cracking Denuvo anymore.
>implying I run any game with Denuvo
Piracy has evolved. I played LAD Gaiden on launch day, on PC and without Game Pass, and it didn't cost me a cent.
Fucking zelda TotK dropped a week before release that I plaid for and I basically had everything ruined for me before the game released.
Teach me the ways of nuPirate.
1) Have paypig friends with similar tastes, minimum
2) Break into their home while they're sleeping and steal their Steam creds (optional)
Account sharing is not piracy
Then at least I'm not going to hell for all the games I've played for free.
>You need the store for Game Pass, so you're gonna install it anyway.
Look at this homosexual
Im genuinely LOL
>It does not include Microsoft Store by default or any pre-installed Microsoft Store apps. And other classic hits.
That's a negative. You're gimping your OS for no discernable reason.
>Actual vidya players dont want shit bloat
It's not bloat if my PC is faster and more optimised for gaming than an OS designed for POS machines retard.
>LTSC seems the much better version of windows for vidya.
Objectively incorrect in every single way
>It's not bloat if my PC is faster and more optimised for gaming than an OS designed for POS machines retard.
>no retort
I accept your concession OSlet.
>gets given a list of 20+ reasons why LTSC is garbage
>can't give a single reason why LTSC is good
>w-well you can't make the task bar slim
if its that important use start11. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a non-gimped OS that is faster than yours lol.
Ok
Now make the taskbar slim
ok now:
>Microsoft Store apps: Windows LTSC does not include the Microsoft Store or any pre-installed Microsoft Store apps. This means that you will need to download and install any apps that you want to use from outside sources.
>Co-pilot is absent
>Live Tiles: Live Tiles, the dynamic tiles on the Start menu in Windows 11 Pro, are not available in Windows LTSC.
>Widgets: Widgets, the interactive panels that can be added to the desktop in Windows 11 Pro, are not available in Windows LTSC.
>Snap Layouts: Snap Layouts, the feature that allows you to quickly arrange windows in different layouts in Windows 11 Pro, is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Desktop Groups: Desktop Groups, the feature that allows you to create and manage multiple desktops in Windows 11 Pro, is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Microsoft Teams integration: Windows 11 Pro includes integration with Microsoft Teams, which allows you to chat with colleagues and join meetings directly from the Taskbar. This integration is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Android app support: Windows 11 Pro includes support for running Android apps on your PC. This support is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Some enterprise features: Windows LTSC is designed for devices that need to be stable and secure, so it does not include some enterprise features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as AppLocker, Device Guard, and BitLocker.
ok now
>Microsoft Edge mode - This mode allows you to open legacy websites that require Internet Explorer 11 directly in Microsoft Edge.
>Taskbar customization - Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the Taskbar as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot drag and drop apps to the Taskbar or create custom toolbars.
>Context menu customization - Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the context menu as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot add or remove custom items from the context menu.
>File Explorer tabs - File Explorer tabs allow you to open multiple folders in a single window. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Virtual desktops - Virtual desktops allow you to create multiple desktops on your PC and switch between them. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Some accessibility features - Windows LTSC does not include some accessibility features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as the Magnifier and Narrator.
>Some gaming features - Windows LTSC does not include some gaming features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as the Game Bar and Auto HDR.
ok now perform faster than windows 11 pro
oh wait you can't. you have a gimped OS like a retard
>tie my down and fuck me harder Billy DX
The psychology of the winjeet just gets stranger and stranger
tie my what, ESL?
desktops - Virtual desktops allow you to create multiple desktops on your PC and switch between them. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
The features you're posting is like it or not not that interesting (most of this stuff is so new to me because I never bothered looking it up) and now you're literally lying here.
>I get more value out of my PC than you simply because you're running LTSC
You completely miss the fucking point anon.
Actual vidya players dont want shit bloat, they just want a machine that plays vidya.
that is why people like me go for Black versions of OS with fucki9ng everything ripped it of it.
LTSC seems the much better version of windows for vidya.
>Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the Taskbar as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot drag and drop apps to the Taskbar or create custom toolbars.
Show me your slim taskbar with labels on Windows 11 Pro (R) then.
taskbar labels are in 11 you retard lol. thanks for proving me correct and yourself wrong once again
Show it to me then
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/microsoft-brings-back-taskbar-app-ungrouping-on-windows-11-but-with-a-smart-new-twist
retard
Good.
Now make it slim.
>Microsoft doesn't say if users will be able to turn off app grouping and enable app labels permanently
lmao
What an abomination. Just use Linux you damn pajeets.
Do some autists here actually use the LTSC unironically? I don't think it even supports Game Pass.
You run one command to enable the store and that's it, game pass is working
>Some enterprise features: Windows LTSC is designed for devices that need to be stable and secure, so it does not include some enterprise features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as AppLocker, Device Guard, and BitLocker.
I need my device to be stable and secure. These apps designed to do so, we have removed because they actually don't secure shit
>I need my device to be stable and secure.
Runs an OS that is less secure (no AppLocker, Device Guard, and BitLocker.)
>Some enterprise features: Windows LTSC is designed for devices that need to be stable and secure, so it does not include some enterprise features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as AppLocker, Device Guard, and BitLocker.
>Security feature are removed for security
Wintoddler moment
BitLocker and AppLocker are in LTSC, he's just baiting like a homosexual.
>enterprise security features
>relevant to normal user in any way
stay retarded, linuxtranny
it's comfy
I swapped from win8.1 to this as well, it's alright
LTSC is the best version of Windows 10 but pretending that it has 0 telemetry is just a massive fucking cope.
The telemetry is deliberately built into the OS and no amount of tinkering or bit flipping is going to get rid of it.
Chuds act surprised that everyone thinks of them as sexless weirdos but then they insist they *need* to stay on ancient operating systems or use linux (they're 1337 hackers)(they're actually going to install child porn on their computers)
t. The israeli pedo that got shot by Rittenhouse
Jump to 11
Not nearly as bas as 10
I will just wait till Windows 10 isn't supported and switch to 11. Why is it in the days of modern buggy releases, I gotta beta test software?
Does new hardware even support w7? I remember trying to install w7 on my aunt's laptop but had to reinstall w10 back because some parts simply didn't have drivers for w7. The whole process was an absolute nightmare. Nothing worked out of the box and I had to manually look up drivers for every piece of hardware. Because USB and internet didn't work without drivers I had to boot linux from usb to download drivers on the hdd. That was like, 4 or 5 years ago? Is it even possible to get w7 running on modern consumer hardware?
And it will only get worse when microsoft shut down windows update for 7 and fresh installs won't even be able to update lol
Why the fuck would you even want to update? It's like the vaccine, updating does literally nothing but install spyware on your OS. The release version is the cleanest.
>too poor for supported windows
>too retarded for linux
>both wintards and troonix users hate me
>my games and software no longer work
>try spin some narrative that updating is bad and everyone is laughing at me
>try to pretend windows 7 is better when i haven't even used 10 or 11 because my pc isn't good enough
>Does new hardware even support w7?
Of course not, W7fags all have ancient PCs.
>switch to Fedora because I hate W11
>most games I play use anti-cheats, and they don't like getting Wine'd
>can't pirate games because there are no repackers for Linux
>most of the software I use for work don't work properly on Linux
>the open-source alternatives are shit
>had to crawl back to W11 like a little bitch
I hate this.
Fuck Microsoft, fuck Bill Gates, and fuck their third world outsourced programmers.
When will Linux get REALLY good? I want to get out of this shithole named Windows so bad, bros...
Try playing games that aren't fotm esports slop.
In Windows 11, can I put my taskbar on the left side of the screen yet?
No, but you can in Windows LTSC.
>using LTSC
>not IoT
pleb
>Games work on your OS and hardware
>You paid for the service to provide the games
Why is the customer getting shafted instead of the company?
Personally I'm just going to quit gaming for the foreseeable future (windows 8.1).
I don't plan on buying any of the crappy 40xx series with the burning cables and the can't run current gen games on max settings bs.
And certainly not with the economy the way it is now with everything overpriced.
I would upgrade to linux except it's not convenient for me to uninstall and reinstall everything right now.
I don't like the direction windows is headed with the telemetry and likely subscription based, always online future, so I'd rather sever my dependence on it sooner rather than later.
>Linux
Yes
>Piracy
Piracy is not an alternative to services steam provide
>Will there be a way to get steam to still work and play games offline?
No
>just use an OS designed for point of sale systems bro
I came when he posted the positives again.
>11fags get literally mindbroken if you ask them to make the taskbar slim
absolute kek
https://winaero.com/how-to-change-taskbar-size-in-windows-11/
oh no no no no LTSCistas how will we respond?
>need to dive into the registry to do something that simple
Good job sir, now put it on the left of the screen
>20+ reasons to not use LTSC
>0 reasons to not use 11 pro
I accept your concession, OSlet
>he thinks that lack of Edge and Team integratio is the reason NOT to use LTSC
lol
lmao even
>he can't think of a single reason to use LTSC meanwhile 11 chad has 20 reasons
20-0, you lose :^)
give a single reason to use 11 which isn't "WINDOWS 11 HAS THIS USELESS SOFTWARE PRE-INSTALLED"
>too tech illiterate to make registry edits
oh no no no no
>LTSC fags can't list a single reason to use LTSC
absolute kek
1. less bloated shit I don't need and never use
2. less telemetry
3. longer support with security patches
>1. less bloated shit I don't need and never use
and yet LTSC is slower
>2. less telemetry
easily blockable on 11 pro by any non-tech illiterate retard
>3. longer support with security patches
11 pro is more secure than LTSC.
Try again, OSlet
pajeet pls
stop shilling your normie botnet honeypot
Yeh it sucks I can't play games on wax cylinder anymore
my PC came with windows 10, should I be upgrading to windows 11? heard bad things about it.
sir please delete
>windows shills: Windows just works out of the box and you don't need to do anything
>also windows shills: run all these scripts and do a bunch of shit to remove most of Windows from your install to run it
>nooo i'm retarded i can't figure out how to edit the registry
Yet you're claiming Linux is too complicated.
Curious.
I never once said linux is complicated LOL
It is faster than LTSC
and more secure
not an argument, i accept your concession
>windows shill claims people are dumb
>still shills windows
LTSC and Windows 7 users are retarded, yes. I haven't seen any intelligence from either of those userbases. Literally hipsters running worse performing OS's and can't even give a reason for it.
Yet you're beneath me.
And yet you respond to your master like a beaten dog. I command you to bark again for me, mutt.
You're seething because you lost the argument and I've proven LTSC and 7 are used by nothing more than tech illiterate hipster retards
I don't use your tranny OS for a start. You were the one seething when I called you a windows shill.
Good dog. Bark again as commanded, OSlet.
>windows shills are mind broken ESLs
checks out.
>he says after pretending linux is hard
keep barking, mutt. I command you to. (Which you will, because I'm your master).
>Literally hipsters running worse performing OS's and can't even give a reason for it.
Just like all winjeets
Just don't upgrade Steam.
I won't spoonfeed you. But you can launch Steam in the future if you block it's updates.
I'm just using dedicated PC for gaming at this point. Simple as. It runs the last Windows with every spyware Bill craves for me to install. There's literally nothing else on it, no personal data (except for Steam) or anything else except for gaems.
Windows 11 is hot garbage lol and it VILL get worse, you'll see.
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-17153/Microsoft-Windows-7.html
If you can edit the registry buy your programming socks and cut your dick off already. Windows is for friendly GUIs only.
Update to Windows 10.
You're the 1%.
Hi OP, sorry that I’m late. You can ignore all the other homosexuals in this thread. The correct answer to your dilemma is to stop being a mentally ill schizoid and just install Windows 10. Ok bye.
Download a steam emulator and a steamsyub unpacker. Only this can give you what you seek. Online multiplayer stuff is at their mercy tho
Why not sselauncher?
in recent years gaming on linux is just running a game on steam.
there's rarely a case that you have to add some shit in the command line, but thats mostly for some games on custom engines.
i am using AMD graphics which tend to have better drivers for linux though
>win 10 debloated Chads
>Linux Chads
we won....win 7 turds are retarded and can't let their old technology die
i use whatever OS has the least amount of users for no reason other than e-clout (even though everyone is laughing at me)
If the security vulnerabilities are too serious, Microsoft will break their own rules and update old windows version outside of support period
See wannacry and the recent webp vulnerabilities
>too poor for supported windows
>too retarded for linux
>both wintards and troonix users hate me
>my games and software no longer work
>try spin some narrative that updating is bad and everyone is laughing at me
>try to pretend windows 7 is better when i haven't even used 10 or 11 because my pc isn't good enough
Why does Windows 11 not have an answer for left side taskbar users?
Why do LTSC users not an an answer for 20+ missing features and using a worse performing OS?
You haven't begun to explain away why a feature was removed in 11.
You haven't begun to explain away why I should run a gimped operating system that performs worse and is less secure with less features.
I accept your concession, OSlet.
LTSC lets you put the taskbar on the left. Why did 11 remove that feature? It only takes one omission to ruin infinite new features.
>one cosmetic feature omitted in 11
vs
>over 20 features missing, worse performance and less security in LTCV
Windows 11 Pro wins. Stay mad, OSlet
>cosmetic
It's a functional feature that makes sense for wanting more vertical space on typical aspect ratios or not being absolutely retarded on wider ARs. Either way, you have no response for its REMOVAL.
>your feature, which already existed and was removed, doesn't count while my new ones do
I accept your concession.
LTSC removes more features, is less secure, and performs worse.
You completely owned yourself with your own non-argument LMAO
Removes features versus... 11? Sasuga.
Yes, LTSC is a gimped OS that has less features, runs worse and is less secure. I accept your concession.
No taskbar on the left side in Window 11. I accept yours too.
1 missing cosmetic feature vs 20+ functional features, less security and worse performance.
It's like 50 arguments for and 1 again LOL
You loooooooooose hahahahaha
Keep barking, OSlet, I command it.
Features are bloat if you don't plan on using any of them.
worse performance and less security isn't "bloat". Also, those features if unused take up disk space which has no bearing on performance at all.
1 missing cosmetic feature vs 20+ functional features, less security and worse performance.
It's like 50 arguments for and 1 again LOL
You loooooooooose hahahahaha
Keep barking, OSlet, I command it.
>I define functional and cosmetic
I accept your concession. And STILL no answer for its removal.
My response is that LTSC has over 20 features missing, worse performance and is less secure. Therefore, Windows 11 is the better choice.
You have no counter-argument and I accept your concession.
You can't put your taskbar on the left side in Windows 11 and I accept yours.
My response is that LTSC has over 20 features missing, worse performance and is less secure. Therefore, Windows 11 is the better choice.
You have no counter-argument and I accept your concession.
You can't put your taskbar on the left side in Windows 11 and I accept yours.
>now you're getting flustered and making mistakes because you lost the argument
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
My response is that LTSC has over 20 features missing, worse performance and is less secure. Therefore, Windows 11 is the better choice.
You have no counter-argument and I accept your concession.
If this was a soccer match, you'd be down 50-1. That's how much you've been owned LOL
50 of your listed features are cosmetic.
My response is that LTSC lets me put the taskbar on the left side. Therefore, LTSC (anything but 11, even) is the better choice.
You have no counter-argument so cope with your new cosmetic features while defending the removal of existing ones.
LTSC:
>massive list of missing features
>less secure
>performs worse than 11 pro
>b-b-but left aligned taskbar
Yep, I'm thinking you're flustered and owned.
I accept your concession all the same.
why did you quote yourself? why did you ignore that mistake? ah, its because you're flustered and owned.
50-1
I was checking if I was talking to Co-pilot.
>can't even own up to his mistakes
just like the mistake of using LTSC which has less features than Windows 11 Pro, worse performance than 11 pro and is less secure than Windows 11 pro.
Owned, hipster. and you WILL respond because you're flustered, owned and I'm under your skin.
No left side taskbar on 11... but at least you have live tiles...
and
>Microsoft Store apps: Windows LTSC does not include the Microsoft Store or any pre-installed Microsoft Store apps. This means that you will need to download and install any apps that you want to use from outside sources.
>Co-pilot
>Live Tiles: Live Tiles, the dynamic tiles on the Start menu in Windows 11 Pro, are not available in Windows LTSC.
>Widgets: Widgets, the interactive panels that can be added to the desktop in Windows 11 Pro, are not available in Windows LTSC.
>Snap Layouts: Snap Layouts, the feature that allows you to quickly arrange windows in different layouts in Windows 11 Pro, is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Desktop Groups: Desktop Groups, the feature that allows you to create and manage multiple desktops in Windows 11 Pro, is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Microsoft Teams integration: Windows 11 Pro includes integration with Microsoft Teams, which allows you to chat with colleagues and join meetings directly from the Taskbar. This integration is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Android app support: Windows 11 Pro includes support for running Android apps on your PC. This support is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Some enterprise features: Windows LTSC is designed for devices that need to be stable and secure, so it does not include some enterprise features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as AppLocker, Device Guard, and BitLocker.
>Microsoft Edge mode - This mode allows you to open legacy websites that require Internet Explorer 11 directly in Microsoft Edge.
tell me, why can't I have all these features in LTSC?
Why does LTSC have worse performance and security?
I use arch btw
If moving the taskbar is cosmetic so are virtual desktops, snap layouts, live tiles, desktop groups, teams integration, and context menu customization.
And still, no answer for them removing features that existed.
>It only takes one omission to ruin infinite new features.
Way to own yourself retard
>zoomer and millennial devs at Valve don't care about backwards compatibility
>Gabe hated Microsoft for decades
The only annoying thing is why they refuse to make a lite client for the purpose of authentication. Even Epic has some community-run client that has none of Epic's bloat and only really exists to send authentication tokens. Steam forces you to activate the whole, Chromium-filled thing.
afaik it is only for the store too, I mean I can just use the store on my phone and just the client on PC.
>fucked myself with intel cpu + win 11 on new setup
what's a retard to do
>too poor for supported windows
>too retarded for linux
>both wintards and troonix users hate me
>my games and software no longer work
>try spin some narrative that updating is bad and everyone is laughing at me
>try to pretend windows 7 is better when i haven't even used 10 or 11 because my pc isn't good enough
>move the goalposts and pretend LTSC is better even though it performs worse and is less secure than 11 pro
If you don't like windows 10 that much, try dual boot linux to download games/launch updated version of steam and use offline mode in windows 7 to play games
I made the switch to linux completely. It was, and still is, a fun journey.
LTSC OSlets brains are in complete meltdown over left aligned taskbars
>friend buys a 80€ garbage convertible from medion
>he just wants to surf on the internet and play Diablo II with it
>he installs Windows
>runs like absolute fucking garbage
>he calls me asking me what he could do
>I tell him to install Linux
>he installs lubuntu
>nothing works out of the box, not even his display driver
>I help him, got it to work eventually
>He uses lubuntu for a few weeks, asks me some questions here and there
>Asks for Diablo II
>I want to install Bottles
>I have to install it through Flatpak
>nah fuck this shit
>I install Endeavour OS with a lightweight DE
>everything works out of the box
>Install and show him Bottles
>Install Diablo II
>He told me that he needs the Pluggy mod and it's probably not going to work on Linux
>Install the mod, start the game, everything is working
>His mind is absolutely blown
>"But Anon, how do I install new software?"
>"Just type yay -Ss into the terminal to search something, then type yay -S to install it"
>He does it, everything works
>"But anon, how do I update my system?"
>"Just type yay and press enter"
>"He does it, turns around and says "Holy shit, this is way easier than using Windows"
>He's basically using Arch Linux for days now and he's loving the performance of his garbage convertible
>He wants to install Linux on his main computer alongside Windows
>He asks me less and less to solve his problems because he wants it to do by himself
I love it when people see how easy Linux actually is
and
>Taskbar customization - Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the Taskbar as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot drag and drop apps to the Taskbar or create custom toolbars.
>Context menu customization - Windows LTSC does not allow you to customize the context menu as much as Windows 11 Pro. For example, you cannot add or remove custom items from the context menu.
>File Explorer tabs - File Explorer tabs allow you to open multiple folders in a single window. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Virtual desktops - Virtual desktops allow you to create multiple desktops on your PC and switch between them. This feature is not available in Windows LTSC.
>Some accessibility features - Windows LTSC does not include some accessibility features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as the Magnifier and Narrator.
>Some gaming features - Windows LTSC does not include some gaming features that are available in Windows 11 Pro, such as the Game Bar and Auto HDR.
and better performance
and better security
OWNED