Stuck in an Harry Potter knockoff

I have a friend who is trying to convince the rest of us to play a game set in what is essentially just Hogwarts with the name changed. He wants to play it in Eberron's Arcanix and I need some good ways to change the other's minds that are more eloquent than: This is a fucking boring idea.
I don't think it will be fun and I don't think anyone will enjoy being stuck doing fantasy wizard homework.

Also I don't think he understands the nature of Eberron. He's got some grand vision of being a powerful wizard eventually and that's not how it works in the setting.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I broadly think it would be more entertaining to play as faculty at a magical institution than as students. That way you could engage in interdepartmental budget fights, quarrel over tenure, launch expeditions to go study weird magic shit, bully kingdoms into giving you grants, use research assistants as cannon fodder, and so on.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even that sounds fucking boring.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it could work, but you'd have to have the profs be actual crazy bullshit wizards, not just people with the wizard class.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Does wanting to have a dragon count as bullshit?
          Because it is if you know anything about the Eberron setting.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dragons literally have a whole backstory as to why they don't teach other's magic.
            They wiped out the Giants for a reason and swore to never do it again. And now there is one teaching conjuration and planar magic at a mage school?
            Are you mentally retarded?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why does everyone on this website have no fucking clue what apostrophes mean or what they're for? Fix your fucking writing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Strixhaven set in Eberron? Well, it's better than default Strixhaven setting I'll give you that.

      that's just Ars Magicka.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. Something worse, his own gay creations and ideas.
        IDEAS which go against the setting. Like a dragon teaching conjuration, a breeding program by wizards creating an entire Genasi village, and sentient animals.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming that this friend will be the GM, and that your objective is how to flat out reject the idea instead of looking for ways to enhance the idea: ask him about details of how exactly he plans to run the campaign in terms of pacing, tone, and challenges (did he actively mention you'll be doing "fantasy wizard homework", or are you speculating on what might be?), since the more information you have, the better you can prod the guy over the details until you spot exactly where it might be lacking (poor hook, aimless progression, focus on pointless mundane events, etc etc) and use that as leverage for argumentation.

    In a case like this, you need to be a bit upfront and honest, but starting out logical is probably better than being outright confrontational. Learn about his planning, then explain to him how the planning is weak and probably wouldn't make for a good campaign. Tell him "this is a fucking boring idea because these aspects aren't coming together well" in your preferred flavor of polite. Try to explain to the dude how Eberron is not fucking Hogwarts and vice-versa, and shouldn't be treated as such.

    And ultimately, remember that should you fail to convince the dude and he goes forward with it, don't get too held up over it. If the scenario is as boring as you claim it is, it probably won't last long and the other players will get bored too (otherwise, if it's only you, tough luck). Talk honestly to your dudes, clear communication is the best thing to have.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly the way he described it is half the game would be spent on school shenanigans, like going on a "fieldtrip" to a typical dungeon space or buttering up a teacher, and the other half would be political intrigue because Arcanix takes in all the politically powerful wizard kids.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds fun I would play

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eugh I wasn't expecting this reaction.

        Oh! I forgot more.
        He's got powerful wizards as actual teachers, dulling the PCs shine and ignoring the common sense that in Eberron most people don't have more than one or two class levels. AND even worse things.

        Like one of his ideas was uncovering a Genasi breeding project that the Conjuration school has been behind for generations. Genasi don't work like that in Eberron. Or his idea to have the Conjuration teacher have a demon and angel as teaching aides.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Genasi don't work like that in Eberron
          Well they do in this setting. Why are you whinging so much about it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Does wanting to have a dragon count as bullshit?
          Because it is if you know anything about the Eberron setting.

          Might as well throw in every race that doesn't exist in eberron.
          You want to play a fucking elephant man from magic the gathering? You want to play a tiefling from someplace other that Droaam?
          WHY not? It's not like those things mean anything. Writing and words? Just wiggly lines bro, they don't matter.

          [...]
          [...]
          Clearly I'm dealing with intellectual midwits who aren't capable of sticking to the setting. Wanna play a speshul snowflake technowizard in a fantasy land? Sure just toss it in! Hurr durr durr.

          So wait, your argument is not that it's uncreative Harry Pottershit, or sticking to a setting that is mostly anti-adventuring, but the fact that it does not perfectly adhere 1:1 from the lore? in a game designed from the very beginning to be mutable to whatever the dungeonmaster making it wants it to be?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's a little bit of both to be honest.
            I don't deserve this hostility.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is there going to be an overreaching plot, other than rich kid magic school slice of life?
      Nobody would have cared for Harry Potter without Voldemort making moves since book 1. As you said, it would get boring without an antagonist.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how academy settings got so popular. It's always way more fun to go on an actual adventure than it is to stay inside a school studying for fucking magic exams or something. Even Harry Potter had to make Hogwarts practically dysfunctional for the place to be interesting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Answer is in the OP: Harry Potter.
      Additionally, you can blame the wide, wide variety of manga and anime set in schools and academies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would people aged 8-16 resonate so strongly with stories relating to schools? I cannot conceive of a single reason. I am perplexed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Neither can I. When I was in school, the last fucking thing I wanted to do when I got home was pretend I was still in fucking school.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus anon, let me help you. People often want to ground their escapism in their present.
          Sometimes it's direct, and an imagined solution to problems.
          >I'm bored, picked on and lonely. I'm going to imagine being myself exactly where I am, except a Titanfall mech drops out of the sky and we become friends, and then I blow up that bully's house.
          Sometimes, they want to keep their own identity even when they erase the world around them, so they feel like the fantasy has relevance to them.
          >I am all isekai anime.
          Sometimes they want to tell a story about themselves (as they see themselves to be or WANT to be) and their world, but drape metaphors over it so that they can talk about things without being too direct or without having to study too intensely the underpinning logistics.
          >I am a British housewife writing about class struggle but I don't really understand the world better than the average Radio 2 listener so now everyone is wizards and the most popular sport is complete nonsense.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Trash.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not arguing that it's a good thing (or necessarily a bad thing) but it's certainly a thing that happens.
              After all, all creative writing is necessarily autobiographical.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                False.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >be an outcast fag
          >nobody wanted to go to prom with you
          >too dumb to get into a prestigious school
          to a loser, boring ass shit like attending school, having friends , and attending social functions seems like high adventure

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't understand how academy settings got so popular.
      A generation of people grew up with Harry Potter being their main or in many cases, only foray into a major fantasy novel series. Rather than branch out and read more, it has essentially stunted their literary growth. Why it did that I have no idea. I guess somewhere along the way people stopped thirsting for more fantasy, different experiences, and just decided that wizard school was the end all be all. Sad really,

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Stunted their growth
        I don't think that's the case, there were plenty of other children's sci-fi and fantasy books around at the time. The real reason is that Harry Potter got big enough to catch the attention of children who otherwise would have had no interest in fantasy. Those kids enjoyed it, but never branched out because they wouldn't have had much interest in fantasy books to begin with. And the movies made it far worse since the main filter, the length of the books, was now removed.
        It's a similar phenomenon with the people who watched Dragon Ball Z on Toonami as kids, and to this day think it's the only anime worth watching.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The prominence of Battle School anime of the same time period also helped. Naruto and My Hero Academia also contributed to the cool school full of magic fighting people concept.

        Like

        Do you have any idea how many series worked on the premise of kids in a school? So many movies, shows, sitcoms, books etc.How long has Archie and Sabrina been around?

        BEFORE we get around to fantasy shit like wizard school, ninja school, school in space, school in purgatory, superhero school.....

        said overall it's just another setting to use. Saved By the Bell was on how many years? Nearly every single Nickelodeon and Disney channel tween and teen show is more of the same, kids doing wacky shit in school. School hijinks are relatable to teens for a reason, its what they are most familiar with. So making a fantasy version of the same idea is not that wild of a concept.

        But it also toys with the whole notion of
        >My school is so boring, what if this place was COOL!
        idea like the teachers being wizards or ninjas instead of near suicidal dead end career babysitters. Dragon taming class instead of math class.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Some of the most fun I ever had was running a game where the players were all teenage mutants being schooled by the X-Men.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, but it's MAGIC school.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have any idea how many series worked on the premise of kids in a school? So many movies, shows, sitcoms, books etc.How long has Archie and Sabrina been around?

      BEFORE we get around to fantasy shit like wizard school, ninja school, school in space, school in purgatory, superhero school.....

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, there's a lot of terrible fiction written by idiots. How does this support your opinion in any way?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >People are not allowed to like things I don't like!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, it simply makes you a pathetic child for ever wanting to play makebelieve in a damn school of all places. If not possibly a pedophile. How sad are you anon?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Where do you think your are?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. Fix your taste.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He doesn't have an opinion. He was having a stroke in typed format and spouting off nonsense words in a jumbled fucking mess that makes zero sense.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because schools allow for a safer, structured environment that are nearly impossible to be lonely in while beyond school there is the potential for lonliness, starvation, increased crime, etc.
      It's a "safe space"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Guess you haven't heard about American Schools then. They are basically real life PVP zones with campers and hunters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why in the flying fuck would you want to roleplay magic adventurers in a "safe space?" That's not adventure, that's you wanting to play out your pedo magical realm.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I presume it's because the adventure is outside the norm so the default is more comfy whereas most fantasy campaigns the safe place is outside the norm.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because schools allow for a safer, structured environment that are nearly impossible to be lonely in while beyond school there is the potential for lonliness, starvation, increased crime, etc.
          It's a "safe space"

          Seriously. Your fantasy adventure should not have a safety net.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Public schools are the only place most people will ever encounter physical violence in their lives. The police even round up underage petty criminals and force them to be in the same building as innocent kids because of truancy laws.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ever heard of the X-Men?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't like it then don't play and let other people have fun without you. Sounds like it'd be easier.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It breaks from lore!
    I can't think of a worse reason for dislike.
    This is a clearly a you issue. Your options are to try and enjoy it anyway, not play, or pitch something you'd rather do.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what are settings to you, just window dressing for you to do whatever in?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Settings should absolutely be adapted for the game you want to play. Don't be so rigid.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Might as well throw in every race that doesn't exist in eberron.
          You want to play a fucking elephant man from magic the gathering? You want to play a tiefling from someplace other that Droaam?
          WHY not? It's not like those things mean anything. Writing and words? Just wiggly lines bro, they don't matter.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is kind of autistic, this blank hostility to changing elements of a setting. If you like elephant men, put them in. Why not? It's fun.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, why not. I see you haven't actually provided an answer to this question.

              >Genasi don't work like that in Eberron
              Well they do in this setting. Why are you whinging so much about it?

              Clearly I'm dealing with intellectual midwits who aren't capable of sticking to the setting. Wanna play a speshul snowflake technowizard in a fantasy land? Sure just toss it in! Hurr durr durr.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, retard. Sorry you were born with an extra chromosome.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know you won't, but this really, really ought to be a moment where you take a step back and evaluate your life and the things you think are important, because this right here is such a breathlessly bad take that it almost defies belief.

                Go outside. Talk to real people. Try to experience even a smidgen of genuine, uncomplicated happiness. Then maybe you'll be able to put on your big-boy pants and play a fucking game of make-believe with your friends.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sheesh.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Wanna play a speshul snowflake technowizard in a fantasy land? Sure just toss it in!
                I mean, that pretty much sums up all the good parts about Eberron.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, why not. I see you haven't actually provided an answer to this question.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think anyone else needs you to protect them or make decisions for them. Why don't you just not join the game?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pitch me something more interesting, right fucking now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      22 hours later and OP is now legally a gay.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see what how I am in the wrong.
    What he's proposing is going against the setting. Can I get some people familiar with Eberron in here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There isn't any such thing as against a setting. Settings aren't things that exist in the world. If you put something in the setting, that is now the setting. If you take something out, that is now the setting.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the dragons are holed up in their own nation doing prophesy research. They have a strict guideline of secrecy when dealing with non-dragons. They don't teach others magic because of what happened with the giants. How is this dragon surviving in the open, breaking their rules?
        Genasi isn't a breedable trait, why would the wizards have their own breeding program to make them?
        Why would elephant people exist in Aundair? It's fantasy France for crying out loud! Not Africa.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The dragon survives by whatever method you decide.
          The wizards developed a breeding program for whatever reason you decide.
          Why wouldn't they? It's up to you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon you are being autistic. The DM isn't writing up some official canon supplement or sequel edition, they're making their own damn game where they can add or remove shit on a whim. If they think it would be more fun to make those additions then there is no rule stopping that. It sounds like your only issue is being upset over eberron lore and no issues with the actual campaign.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No you are wrong.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You've yet to give a reason why. Anon, insisting that everyone is wrong and you are totally not wrong with 0 explanation is peak autism

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why are they right then?
            The lore of the setting and keith's own writing says that what they want isn't possible. AND he made the setting.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cool, that literally stops nothing. Keith isn't your dm, your friend is. If the dm wants to add something then he 100% can.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No he can't.

                Many people have been nice, it's just they say things you don't agree with. You need to learn to unplug your ears sometimes and listen to others.

                I'm the one in the right though. I'm saying things that comply with canon.
                It'd be like saying there is a small kingdom of catfolk in Breland is okay. Or having a family of half bronze dragons in charge of an area. These things don't work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes he can, he's the dm. You're not "complying with canon" because you're actively opposing the dm's campaign setting, so you are in fact doing the opposite. Both examples you gave work simply if the dm says thats how it works in his game. Try again.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The creator says otherwise.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The creator is wrong.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then why even play in eberron at all?
                Why not make some bullshit world where anything could happen? Because the guy proposing this game is an unimaginative hack who has the least interesting ideas.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you the Demiurge?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The creator in this case is the GM.
                The creator is, by definition, always the GM.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                False

                either the DM adheres to the source material or they use material from somewhere else. There is not making it all up willy nilly. Players are kicked for that shit and I expect the same of any DM.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >He's got some grand vision of being a powerful wizard eventually
    So he wants somebody else to run it then? Tell him to run it himself.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hot him with this as hard and as often as you have to

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      perfect

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just saying what little he has said that he wants goes against the established rules and cultures of the setting. I don't see the big deal and why people think I am wrong. I am not.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm just saying what little he has said that he wants goes against the established rules and cultures of the setting.
      And how is that relevant in any way or form? It just isn't.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then why play in Eberron at all if you aren't going to follow the setting guidelines?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's easier to say "Eberron" than to remake it from scratch, except with the changes you wanted.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just say "I'm not interested in that campaign, so if you decide to play I'll sit this one out."

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised this thread has been up for almost a full day without any mention of STrixhaven: the attempted D&D adventure/supplement written in this format last year.
    If anything, this should be a convincing reason why these kinds of games are boring and inherently flawed. Just look up any reviews of this adventure or check the /tg/ archives to see discussion of why its such a disaster.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I will definitely look these up and send the best scathing reviews to the rest of the group.
      Thank you.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP, your friend is cool and you are a gay.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just say no, your gm cannot force you to play a shitty campaign if you just don't play

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I need some good ways to change the other's minds that are more eloquent than: This is a fucking boring idea.
    Instead of rejecting the idea, pretend to be excited about it.
    Ask the DM about class schedules. What classes are there? Who teaches them? Where are the classrooms? Is it a college-like campus? Where are the dorms? Are they co-ed? Where's the lunchroom, what do they serve, who works there? How big is the library? What's the history of the school? What about the other students? How many students are there? Can I talk to them and be friends with them? How many are in my class? How many classes a day do I take? Do I have homework? What's my homework like? What's my class like? Who is my teacher, what do they look like, what's the name of the subject, what's the name of the book, who wrote it, how old is it?

    You get the idea. Just pelt him with an ungodly amount of questions and he'll start to realize it's more trouble than it's worth.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And this

      I'm surprised this thread has been up for almost a full day without any mention of STrixhaven: the attempted D&D adventure/supplement written in this format last year.
      If anything, this should be a convincing reason why these kinds of games are boring and inherently flawed. Just look up any reviews of this adventure or check the /tg/ archives to see discussion of why its such a disaster.

      is the biggest fucking nasty steamy pile of shit I ever had the misfortune of running. My group wanted me to run it, I flipped through it, seemed alright, how bad could it be?
      I could write a thesis on how much I hate this book. This is less than an outline of a campaign. The setting is nonexistent. Using this book to run a campaign is actively detrimental to the campaign itself, you would run a better Strixhaven campaign by making everything up yourself without ever having touched the book.
      Strixhaven has 5 campuses for the 5 colleges, each campus has 3-5 named locations with 1 paragraph of text and that's it. No maps for any of them. The only places that get maps are places you go to in the campaign. So if your players want to explore campus (something WotC never thought would happen) you're fucked because there IS NOTHING THERE. It's like fake cardboard buildings.
      The campaign has players sign up for classes, and they all have funny names like archaeomancy but they never tell the dm who the teacher is for these classes, what these classes are even about, or where they are. Just a name, that's it. Your players NEVER EVEN GO TO THESE CLASSES
      Players have 1 mandatory class they must all pick each year, which is where all the story happens, where all the exams happen etc
      Other classes? May as well not exist because they have 0 bearing on the story, so why even WASTE MY FUCKING TIME AND MY PLAYERS TIME by having them pick out classes when they will NEVER GO TO THEM?
      By the way, Strixhaven has no schedule. It says you get 5gp per week for having a campus job, but it never says how many weeks are in a school year. Or even HOW MANY WEEKS PASS! So you'll have your players do a story beat, then the book says "several weeks pass"
      HOW MANY? HOW MUCH GOLD DO I GIVE MY PLAYERS? WHAT SEASON IS IT?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And this [...] is the biggest fucking nasty steamy pile of shit I ever had the misfortune of running. My group wanted me to run it, I flipped through it, seemed alright, how bad could it be?
      I could write a thesis on how much I hate this book. This is less than an outline of a campaign. The setting is nonexistent. Using this book to run a campaign is actively detrimental to the campaign itself, you would run a better Strixhaven campaign by making everything up yourself without ever having touched the book.
      Strixhaven has 5 campuses for the 5 colleges, each campus has 3-5 named locations with 1 paragraph of text and that's it. No maps for any of them. The only places that get maps are places you go to in the campaign. So if your players want to explore campus (something WotC never thought would happen) you're fucked because there IS NOTHING THERE. It's like fake cardboard buildings.
      The campaign has players sign up for classes, and they all have funny names like archaeomancy but they never tell the dm who the teacher is for these classes, what these classes are even about, or where they are. Just a name, that's it. Your players NEVER EVEN GO TO THESE CLASSES
      Players have 1 mandatory class they must all pick each year, which is where all the story happens, where all the exams happen etc
      Other classes? May as well not exist because they have 0 bearing on the story, so why even WASTE MY FUCKING TIME AND MY PLAYERS TIME by having them pick out classes when they will NEVER GO TO THEM?
      By the way, Strixhaven has no schedule. It says you get 5gp per week for having a campus job, but it never says how many weeks are in a school year. Or even HOW MANY WEEKS PASS! So you'll have your players do a story beat, then the book says "several weeks pass"
      HOW MANY? HOW MUCH GOLD DO I GIVE MY PLAYERS? WHAT SEASON IS IT?

      Thank you for the help.
      You understand my problem and have been the only nice anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Many people have been nice, it's just they say things you don't agree with. You need to learn to unplug your ears sometimes and listen to others.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely feel sorry for people who think you need maps to use a location in your game

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I once ran a Harry Potter knockoff game using the Witch Girls Adventures rules.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't run evil campaigns, personally.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I removed Malcolm's fetish stuff

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The best threads here are always when an autist is certain about something. Thanks OP.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For your own sake I hope you are just larping, OP. Otherwise you probably have unironic autism.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pants him and call him a fag. That's the traditional way to get rid of nerds and teach them to stop doing nerd shit.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do it with DnD? There are about a dozen games that work on this exact scenario already.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Turn it into a magical Animal House.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not make the most out of it and play a delinquent?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Conspire with all the other players to form a gang of delinquents that bullies him into quitting.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP please answer these questions honestly:
    >have you ever ran a game?
    >have you ever ran a game that lasted a year of regularly scheduled games?
    >have you ever made your own setting?
    >have you ever used a published/official setting?
    >have you ever played in a game?
    >>have you ever ran a game that lasted a year of regularly scheduled games?

    If the answer to any of these questions is yes, please provide details so I can better understand where you are coming from.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Now, I have no advice as to the main question, but I agree that it sounds terrible. However
    >Also I don't think he understands the nature of Eberron. He's got some grand vision of being a powerful wizard eventually and that's not how it works in the setting.
    This is pure unadulterated brainlet autism. The GM determines the nature of the setting. Full stop. Using another setting as a template is fine, but as soon as the GM touches it, it becomes his. No ifs or buts or maybes.

    Getting some strong 5e consoomer vibes from this, in which case both of you deserve to play the bad game you're playing.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just ask him to call it Neberron. It's not entirely unlike Eberron, but it's definitely not Eberron.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous.

    >Step 1.
    Find what parts of this game actually do not interest you or make you dislike it. "The whole thing" is not a part. If you associate every concept to "A rip on X", you'll never find anything original. Magic school exists outside JK Rollin', she just came up with the first popular iteration of "Magic, plus high school".
    >Step 2.
    Once you've found what aspects you dislike, address these with your friend so he can compensate to make this enjoyable for you. You don't want to play a mage? Play a magical creature. You don't want to be in a certain position? That can be worked out.
    If you don't have anything you can point to as to why you dislike the game, then just give him the benefit of the doubt and play a couple sessions.

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