Sunbreak's first round of balance changes

Sword & Shield: Applying Destroyer Oil now also restores some sharpness (in addition to its current effect).

Dual Blades — Spiral Slash: Attack power slightly increased; elemental scaling slightly increased.

Hammer — Dash Breaker: Attack power has been slightly increased. Also, performing a charge right before Dash Breaker ends will start you at max charge instead of continuing from your previous charge level.
Hammer — Silkbind Spinning Bludgeon: Attack power increased; elemental scaling slightly increased.

Gunlance — Ground Splitter: Effect duration increased; Wirebug Gauge recovery speed increased.
Gunlance — Hail Cutter: Wirebug Gauge cost changed to 1; Wirebug Gauge recovery speed changed to Medium.
Gunlance — Ground Splitter: Fixed an inconsistency between the player animation and the duration of the blowback negation and damage reduction effects that would occur after successfully hitting a monster with Ground Splitter.

Insect Glaive — Awakened Kinsect Attack: Adjusted the attack power values for each number of extract colors consumed, as below:
One Extract Color: Attack power slightly increased
Two Extract Colors: Attack power slightly increased
Three Extract Colors: Attack power increased

Heavy Bowgun — Crouching Shot: Adjusted as follows:
The recovery speed of the overheat gauge has been increased.
Overheat duration has been decreased.
Normal Ammo 1–3, Pierce Ammo 1–3, Flaming Ammo, Water Ammo, Freeze Ammo, Thunder Ammo: The interval between rapidfire shots has been decreased, and the total number of shots has been increased.
Dragon Ammo, Piercing Dragon Ammo, All Status-Effect Ammo Types 1–3: The interval between rapidfire shots has been decreased

  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Some Palamute Gear have had their values adjusted. The cooldown time for each tool has also been slightly increased.
    Dual-Bladed Chain: Elemental scaling increased; Attack power increased
    Guarding Parasol: Stun value slightly increased; Exhaust value slightly increased
    Steel Fang, Stoutcore Fang: Attack power increased
    Large Shuriken: Elemental scaling slightly increased; Status effect scaling slightly decreased
    Palamute Silkbinder: Elemental scaling increased; Attack power slightly increased; Status effect scaling slightly decreased

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's it? Who the hell uses Dash Breaker?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Who the hell uses Dash Breaker?
        That's probably why they buffed it

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Oh

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Oh

          I do t they really care what mechanic is or isn’t used. It’s like someone “important” whined about it. It’s like that with most games. Take.. I don’t know… R6 Siege… 99% of the community will complain about x, y, or z, but Ubisoft doesn’t give a shit. Now, if the e-sports team whine about it, that shit gets changed ASAP.
          The devs (for the most part) aren’t sitting there reeeeeing
          >bros! They’re not using the helicopter cock attack! We have to fix this!

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            They're just taking underwhelming moves and buffing them to make them feel more appealing to try and use, I don't see the harm in that. Dash Breaker had absolutely no purpose with Keeping Sway existing for example, and Partbreaker Oil was actively detrimental more than it helped.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              I guess but where's the harm in leaving those moves a bit crappy? Some moves are just gonna be better than others, I don't see the point in trying to equalize everything like this.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                > where's the harm in leaving those moves a bit crappy?
                What are you, retarded?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                literally what are you trying to argue here?

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          But what's the point of that? If you want to make the weapon better then buff the stuff that people actually use instead of just raising shitty moves up to mediocrity.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            >bro just make the strong moves stronger so my TA times get a bit better instead of making the weapon have more fun options

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              Hammer is the weakest weapon in the game so yes even its strongest options need to be better

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Hammer is the weakest weapon in the game
                Lol

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's slower than every other weapon except HH while offering zero utility

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                1/ There will always be a weakest weapon
                2/ It's not even hammer
                Imagine if every time a gay like you complained about their weapon being the "weakest" despite getting perfectly reasonable clear times, the developers followed your whims and buffed it
                We'd be playing a game where every weapon is as braindead as HBG because nobody at the bottom was ever happy with the fact some other gay outperformed them in an entirely PvE game
                I can't imagine a more brainlet attitude to game balance

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >There will always be a weakest weapon
                Sure but that weakest weapon should be one that makes sense
                Hammer has nothing other than damage and KO so its damage and KO being shit makes no sense
                Lance with its buffed counters and step attacks gets to be nearly invincible and has absurd mobility but it also clears faster than hammer, where's the sense in that?
                MH isn't competitive and I'm not asking for it to be balanced like a competitive game but the strengths and weaknesses of weapons in this game just make no sense at times and it makes the weapons less satisfying to use as a result

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                ''Man, hammer gets to knock enemies down for free and mash, why is it stronger than lance that always has to be on your face?''
                Making up excuses on comparisons don't make sense, every weapon has its niche and strengths including hammer. It's also not in any way GL or HH tier weak and isn't pigeonholed into one type of play like DB which has similar clear times without any KOs

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Who gives a shit about any of that as long as hitting the monster with the weapon is fun
                Damage numbers were a mistake, remove them and remove quest clear timers while we're at it

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Hammer has nothing other than damage and KO
                and safety
                and simplicity
                Imagine being so desperate for buffs you claim the slowest weapon in the game is actually better than yours

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >safety
                No safer than any other weapon
                >simplicity
                It has 3 movesets, buff upkeep, and needs to build elemental now for maximum damage output

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >bro no you don't get it I get to walk around while charging my best attacks but it's actually way harder than any other weapon
                lol

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Hammer has always been the weapon for beginners, sorry it's not letting you bypass hunting the monster entirely I'll give itchynose a call see what he can sort out for you

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Hammer has always been the weapon for beginners
                I remember back in 4U where people thought Hammer was a beginner weapon but couldn't handle being at the monster's head because it was a death zone, so people just called the weapon a shit beginner weapon rather than admitting they were bad and couldn't handle hitting the monster from the front rather than tickling its tail the whole hunt.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Hammer was shit in 4U though. Had to put in 10 times more work than every other weapon learning golfswing headsnipes for no payoff compared to GS or CB.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't, it's nowhere near as good as GS or IG but it was still better than average if you want to use TA runs as a metric.
                It could even stun a lot faster than CB can assuming you were good enough to consistently hit the head because you didn't need to go through the song and dance of building vials/shield buff first, it's just that hitting the head repeatedly was hard while CB just had to land one or two moves so many people mistakenly believed that CB was better at stunning than hammer because they're bad at the game.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're not entirely incorrect, hammer was better in coordinated 2 man runs where it could keep comboing the head, but this wasn't really possible solo on 140s

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >this wasn't really possible solo on 140s
                Why would you suddenly be unable to hit the head repeatedly in a speed run scenario where you reset until everything goes perfectly? It's not like 140 quests had different AI

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Hammer and GS were fairly even in base MH4, Hammer like most other weapons got worse in 4U because of monster design, and GS got overpowered gear.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Wouldn't playing solo make it easier to combo the head because they're more predictable? 4 player groups is where playing hammer becomes a pain because you have to constantly react to the monster turning to attack another player.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I say coordinated runs as in a run where the 2 players stand right next to each other and do their attacks in a planned and coordinated fashion. This lets you chain flinches and knockdowns in such a way that you can keep attacking. It's easier to snipe heads solo because the monster is more predictable, but attack windows are simply not large enough to do full combos on heads a lot of the time unless it's to punish certain long animation attacks like most projectiles.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Had to put in 10 times more work (compared to GS or CB)
                That's like every weapon in 4U aside from Insect glaive or the ranged weapons in a HAME run.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                How do you type this shit and not even for a moment stop typing to realize how much of a moron you're being
                You've got envy so bad you're even bitching about Lance having a niche?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Lance is fine, I used it as an example for why hammer is so bad.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                They hate him because he told them the truth.
                Hammer is just weaker HH at this point.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's slower than every other weapon except HH while offering zero utility

                you haven't used hammer in SB, or you suck with it. which is it?

  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    HAMMER CHADS

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Sunbreak reviews still so poor?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because it is a shallow hunting game
      It's a fine and nuanced asymetrical player v CPU fighting game. but that's not monster hunter. It's too lopsided.

      Good game. Bad monster hunter. Would enjoy and recommend if it were a spin off called Monster Basher

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason Iceborne’s reviews were poor on Steam. A lot of PC players or PCheaters as I like to call them, use mods when playing. Whenever there’s a major title update, their games usually break and remain broken until they remove the outdated mods.
      >it-it was about performance..
      Works on my machine 🙂

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      paid costumes

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's because you can't CreamAPI the DLCs.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        You can't? Goddamn it.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because Rise as a whole is a bad Monster Hunter game, just like World, and the expansions for both didn't fix that. On top of that, the Title Updates for Sunbreak have been especially shit in terms of variety. There hasn't been a single monster added to the game that isn't already in the "base" expansion in one form or another and it reeks laziness.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      it's mid, simple as

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's mostly cause the massive amount of paid DLC vs the greatly reduced amount of free extra content caused quite the controversy

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Which I personally don't get. Dollar-wise, there's still less paid DLC than in World and Rise has a ton of armor unlockable through side quests, it's just not done via Event Quests anymore.

        Hell, World thought it was worth over $100 for their fucking MODEL VIEWER for the monsters in the game. That's way more egregious to me than some layered armors/weapons.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >World thought it was worth over $100 for their fucking MODEL VIEWER for the monsters in the game.
          That was their biggest sin for me. Every other Capcom game has unlockable models that you can view without real currency. I really wanted to get a good look at some of the monsters but I refuse to pay for what is essentially a digital toy.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. I adore model viewers, they're one of my favorite things to do when I'm just winding down with a game. I like seeing all the work put into the models and textures and all that. That's especially true in a game like MH, where it's hard to appreciate the little details on monsters since they're constantly in motion. It's a much bigger loss to me than out of place layered armor I probably would have used a handful of times, when the game itself contains a shit-ton of armor and all of it can be layered.

            And fuck you if you think I'm not getting my plushie Narga for my Longsword.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              >World thought it was worth over $100 for their fucking MODEL VIEWER for the monsters in the game.
              That was their biggest sin for me. Every other Capcom game has unlockable models that you can view without real currency. I really wanted to get a good look at some of the monsters but I refuse to pay for what is essentially a digital toy.

              Which I personally don't get. Dollar-wise, there's still less paid DLC than in World and Rise has a ton of armor unlockable through side quests, it's just not done via Event Quests anymore.

              Hell, World thought it was worth over $100 for their fucking MODEL VIEWER for the monsters in the game. That's way more egregious to me than some layered armors/weapons.

              >not being a fig builder chad

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Gimme a closeup of that Barrioth and do you have a Tiggy
                And how the fuck do people make these

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm on a bus. Would if I could. Here's Barroth and Jyuratodus doing their Turf War. Neat hidden feature for these to figs only.

                >how
                They're called builder because they come in pieces you put together. Just slotting tails or wings on. All pre-painted.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You can get them for like $15 on Amazon or sommat. A group of friends and I at work would buy full boxes at a discount and split the cost based on which monsters we wanted so it came out to a pittance.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Are those preassembled or are they like Warhammer where you paint them yourself?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Prepainted, mild assembly

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Cool, is there a particular site you get yours from?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Play Asia. They're released in "volumes" and you can get every fig in a volume by buying the whole box. They're meant to be gotcha blindbox buys but each box is a full set so if you buy the whole box you get them all + the little clear pieces that are in each box of a volume that add up to a crystalline version of one of the figs.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You underestimate my power.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Odo's design is so damn cool, probably the coolest looking mon in the last two gens for me
                Shame about the pushover hitboxes

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yup, Odo and Nerg are some of my favorite World monsters, and sadly I was deeply susceptible to the Dodo memes so I have an affinity for him.

                I'm a Worldbab so I only just got introduced to all of them with that game, but I loved fighting Teo as Chargeblade so I had to have them too. I wish I'd gotten a Val Hazak; might pick one up eventually.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I really hope the rotten vale returns alongside more experimental ecosystems for areas. Don't get me wrong, I like Sunbreak's jungle a lot, but the Citadel is just so bland. It's just a low-lying tundra with a small portion of it dedicated to the ruined-castle aesthetic. I wish they made Narwa's arena a full area.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >rotten vale
                Gimme the corrals again

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I actually like the Citadel for its variety and vibrant colours. The performance is pretty bad for it though.
                Rise overall has very safe maps in terms of creativity. World had Rotten Vale, Coral grounds, Elder's recess, El Dorado to keep things fresh.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nice.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'd worry about the figures being too fragile all the time.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                They're soft vinyl, you almost can't break them by dropping. I'd be more worried about paint damage.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I have these but covered in a really thick layer of dust

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Compressed Air.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          I think the tipping point was the paid weapons skins DLC

          world was first just stuff normalfags didn't cared about
          then rise came with DLC armors, and now DLC weapons, so people are scared of the slippery slope and rightfully so

          I already hated this kind of shit back when they started with it in world and my stance on this hasn't changed
          it was bullshit in world and it still is bullshit in rise

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Paid DLC in general was always the tipping point, but I can still look the other way because I don't buy it and don't engage with it.
            There's a big line they haven't crossed yet, though, and that's the 'extra paid content' line. Once they start charging for quests or god forbid monsters is when I officially tap out.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              I am a huge fashion fag so stuff like locked hairstyles and outfits already hurts my enjoyment

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >there's still less paid DLC than in World
          Wrong. Rise has 427$ worth already and it isn't even done with it's TUs yet.
          >Rise has a ton of armor unlockable through side quests
          Also wrong. I'm playing through HR right now and there's no quests that have given unlockable armor, all there's been is requests that unlock weapon trees.
          >That's way more egregious to me than some layered armors/weapons.
          You're a dumbass then.

          Exactly. I adore model viewers, they're one of my favorite things to do when I'm just winding down with a game. I like seeing all the work put into the models and textures and all that. That's especially true in a game like MH, where it's hard to appreciate the little details on monsters since they're constantly in motion. It's a much bigger loss to me than out of place layered armor I probably would have used a handful of times, when the game itself contains a shit-ton of armor and all of it can be layered.

          And fuck you if you think I'm not getting my plushie Narga for my Longsword.

          >game itself contains a shit-ton of armor
          Funny joke.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Wrong. Rise has 427$ worth already and it isn't even done with it's TUs yet.

            I did the math and removing soundtracks and the expansions, the DLC comes out to about $40 in Rise's favor. I agree the balance will probably shift soon though.

            >Also wrong. I'm playing through HR right now and there's no quests that have given unlockable armor, all there's been is requests that unlock weapon trees.

            Not quests, side quests, i.e. those given to you by NPCs to go capture a monster, collect X number of parts, etc. A ton of them offer new armor and weapons designs. If you're still in HR you just may not have gotten them yet.

            Also, if you're in HR how can you comment in the number of armors?

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Not quests, side quests, i.e. those given to you by NPCs to go capture a monster, collect X number of parts, etc.
              I know the difference. I mentioned requests because those are the only things that have given me new weapon designs. I'm HR 82 and have done most of the optional quests yet haven't gotten a single armor set from them.
              >Also, if you're in HR how can you comment in the number of armors?
              The internet. Not that I'd need it to know that a game with no gunner armor, apex armor or armor for that qurio bullshit outside of Risens doesn't have a shit ton of armor. Especially compared to other entries in the series.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You clearly aren't using the meowcenaries and the submarine to get certain items for the non monster armors, there are a lot of armors behind that

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, he genuinely believes there are no armor layered or otherwise unlocked though event quests.
                He's shitposting.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You clearly are a genuine mouthbreather.
                >Rise has a ton of armor unlockable through side quests,
                >Not quests, side quests, i.e. those given to you by NPCs to go capture a monster, collect X number of parts, etc.
                >now moving the goalpost talking about the sets from meowcenary materials, which aren't side quests, and most of them like Vaik and Death Stench are from other games that again, had more sets than Rise.

                Anon, he genuinely believes there are no armor layered or otherwise unlocked though event quests.
                He's shitposting.

                You're the one shitposting retard. I was responding to that dumbass talking about getting sets from optional quests from villagers, nowhere did I mention that there were no event armor sets in the game. I already have the azure age usj armor.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's not very good

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      The real answer is console warring.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Smaller in scope than World/Iceborne with worse performance and worse graphics. That's all it'll take for most people to rate it lower. Gameplay is just as good though with large enough differences that some will prefer one over the other. Personally I think Rise/Sunbreak gameplay would've been perfect if they hadn't gone for the switch skill gimmick, as is a lot of weapons get really shitty balancing like base game hammer's damage being concentrated entirely in a single wirebug skill or weapons get designed around switch skills that are either not fun at all, like Harvest Moon, or otherwise are so central to the weapon's flow that playing without them is retarded. If Rise had just made a single well-designed moveset for each weapon it would've turned out much better.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >pay wall dlc
      >OG fans think it's too normie baby
      >normies think it's not world faggy enough
      it's bad

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's almost nice they finally released HR content, shame they charged for it and there still isn't G rank.

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    About time they did something for hammer. No reduce the stun capability of other weapons and increase it for hammer and it’s fixed.

  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    hol up

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      At this time of year?
      At this time of day?
      In this part of the old world?
      Localized ENTIRELY within your melding pot?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        *slips u the MP*
        Yes

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          may I see it?

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Dual Blades — Spiral Slash: Attack power slightly increased; elemental scaling slightly increased.
    I thought spiral slash was the single strongest thing the DB had

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I've been doing dirty damage with it. Hitting for 100-120+ with EVERY hit of it, chain stunning the crabs even with anomaly buffs because of how absurd the damage is with full crit/cb/elecrit,mailofhellfire and 1 ele exploit and 5x element.

      DB already felt stupidly good to me (though largely because I don't have to learn timings and can just zoom around, with very high DPS up time and huge burst when I actually feel out a time where I can drill-fuck them)

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        I forgot I managed to slot in either 2 or 3 burst on top through qurio forging to reach that damage.

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    So still under 4.5m sales huh?

  8. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I was expecting gunlance gays to barge in claiming it's not enough and we're still F tier and need level 12 shelling for free
    Didn't expect the hammerfags to take their place

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly the GL lv8 buffs are gonna be nice enough themselves, doing some math ele. Wide GLs with poke-shell fighting could even end up stronger than long or normal fullburst spams, which were the meta way of playing and are also getting buffed by this change. I don't know shit about how the wirebug move changes will play out yet but those are just extras on top of what we needed. Really doubt GL will end up super strong but who cares, picking it wont mean 3-5 extra minutes on high level anomaly hunts anymore.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Shelling augment basically shut up every GL fag, myself included
      The hail cutter buff is cool tho

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Shelling augment basically shut up every GL fag, myself included
      The hail cutter buff is cool tho

      Yeah all I want now is sneak attack as a deco or qurio skill and I'm set, though I wouldn't turn my nose up at risen teostra having an artillery boosting skill

  9. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/11/capcom-reveals-meaty-patch-notes-for-monster-hunter-rise-sunbreaks-next-update
    Notes
    >Increased the number of Research Points you can earn for A2 - A6 monsters.
    >Your quest level will now increase faster when completing an Anomaly Investigation.
    >Increased the number of Anomaly Research points you can earn for Anomaly Quests and Anomaly Investigations from level 1 - 120.
    Nice

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Thank fuck. My goal with every MH is to get the checkmark on every quest, so I have to grind AR up to get the next tier of quests but I'm pretty much set on weapons and armor, so it's just a slog.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      wow I'm glad I decided to take a break

  10. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Aaaaand destroyer oil is still not worth using

  11. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >No long sword

    So are we gonna pretend nerfing the spirit levels after nerfing to the ground HB was good?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      LS is pretty damn strong right now. All it took was serene pose and Iai working properly inside the bing ring aswell as players getting more familar with monster specific matchups to push it past CB and right under Swaxe and GS

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        LS is the only weapon that has to play absolutely flawlessly or lose a massive portion of its damage, I think it deserves to be a little better
        It was too strong in Rise where it was low risk and high reward but they swung a bit too hard in the other direction

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Only thing I can think of is tweaking the radius on the ring and buff spirit reckoning back. Personally Intrepid Heart is a big game changer which lets you tank your mistakes and builds up back fast. If that skill didnt exist I'd probably going back to SS and SSC spam

  12. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    So the GREATsword didn't get anything?

  13. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    no one cares, dead game, wake me up when World 2 releases

  14. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >weapon gets buffed
    >weapon "players" come out of the woodworks to complain about their "DPS"
    every time, every game

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm tired of modern gaming as well

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous
  15. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I use IG like a wizard and people laugh at me, will this still be the case?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Kinsect damage still doesn't scale with your own stats at all so yes

  16. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care still playing MHFU

  17. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >LS is the only weapon that has to play absolutely flawlessly or lose a massive portion of its damage
    Jesus fucking christ, first the hammertard and now these idiots

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Name one other weapon with a 2 wirebug damage buff that makes up almost half of your damage that drops if you sheathe your weapon.
      No wonder non-speedrunners just play Sakura Slash spam into sacred sheathe instead.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        This is me. Using Harvest Moon in MP is more or less impossible and Iai does almost no damage without it. Helm Breaker is still okay but I mostly use it when I don't feel like I have an opening for SSC and I have two wirebugs so I can quickly regain my meter with a SSS. I really think they need to buff the base Iai slash since there's almost no reason to use it without Harvest Moon now.

        Also, I'm not great at the game, so going the casual route makes sense.

  18. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Spread HBG bros is crouching shot finally worth using

  19. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Swaxe sisters how we feeling

  20. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >still no lance buff

  21. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I just wish water strike could be used while charging and activated dodge skills or give you max charge instead of just letting you go into golfswing.
    Like that water strike mod did, it was perfect.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Speaking of dodge skills, I kinda wish you could trigger Seregios' armor skill with counters or at least insta-block for lance

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's like the only thing that's making hammer take more effort than your average counter weapon

  22. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Those gunlance and HBG changes
    This all I wanted. now I can use crouching shot and feel powerful and finally hail cutter can be considered and the ground splitter buffs are quite nice.

  23. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people so upset about hammer in this game? It's my most used weapon and I kill shit plenty fast despite it being the "weakest" weapon. How fast are you guys trying to go? How is 6-8 minutes not satisfactory?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's because they want to kill everything like bowgun/bow speedrunner also to me 10-15 mins is fast casual time.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's not the weakest though. It's damn near tied with Lance and SnS performance. It also has some retarded TA records in several matchups that put it near GS times. Hammer is sitting in a good spot

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      GL and Lance are the weakest.
      And then half the other weapons are only like 5% stronger (according to TA times). Without comparing to ranged weapons and the outliers like GS, hammer ain't half bad, specially for casual online play.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, lance has worse times than fucking HH? What's it with everyone saying lance is great now then?

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Because it is great (to play)
          But it's downed damage potential (the thing defining how good your weapon is at TAs) is not that big

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Because all its' moves are actually now usable in Sunbreak. It's still won't down a monster left and right.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >What's it with everyone saying lance is great now then?

          Because times only matter for speedrunning gays, 99% of the playerbase cares about how fun the weapon is. Same reason people bitching about hammer are gays. So you'll take 2 minutes more than the best weapon used by top players on scripted runs WHO CARES

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          HH is like 5th or 6th blademaster weapon for clearing speed in Rise. Wake up, grandpa.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          nu HH had its moveset simplified and damage buffed to appeal to braindead retards. Still almost no one plays that shit lmao

  24. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >lance damage multiplier not fixed

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Huh

  25. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >implying anybody cares about this shitshow of a game
    HAHAHA

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >turn off ui elements you don't like
      >turn down particle effects
      >play alone
      ?????

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Just don't acknowledge Eric.

  26. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Sword & Shield: Applying Destroyer Oil now also restores some sharpness
    nice, recently started playing it.

  27. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    If your weapon doesn't have any usage on this chart then it's shit and I don't want to hear you ever talking about it again

  28. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    speaking of lance, how do I get better with it?
    should I be investing less in the guard/guard up and more in the evades?
    Also, I don't remember which game gave lances way to much invincibility on side hops, that was fun, please tell me which game that was

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Side hops
      Regular backhop was the most evasive one but yes, lance used to have extreme iframes on hops in 2nd gen. So FU.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      4U and down let you cover your backhops with iframes completely so you were just invincible chaining them with evade+2/3
      If you're using spiral thrust you want guard but if you're using anchor rage you can do without it

  29. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Having nu-HH on your team is basically having infinite protective polish

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      All sharpness melody horns are really bad

  30. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    They're SO SCARED to make Chaos Oil II it's kinda funny. The sharpness thing was something a mod already did so I'm content but cmooooon gimme like 10 affinity it's fine what could possibly go wrong

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like affinity would even be good with how many existing sources of it we already have

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Wait fuck doesn't Partbreaker Oil only actually affect stagger and not part damage? I remember reading somewhere they're 2 different stats
        Fuck the affinity then just make it work like it should. Partbreaker doesn't get enough appreciation as a utility skill anyway, it blows some matchups up

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't stagger an effect that's caused by part damage thresholds?
          At least i heard hammer's thingy basically boosts part damage and im pretty sure sns's does the exact same thing

  31. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >oil restores sharpness now
    wow
    it still sucks

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it completing with shoryuken? It's real hard to replace something like that

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, I wish it was in the same slots as shield bash/falling shadow

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody will ever use oil instead of metsu or windmill

        I don't know what they were thinking with some of these switch skill choices
        SnS has like 2 choices really; metsu or windmill for iframes - hard basher or drill slash (elemental)
        that's it, you select them and never think about it again cause the rest belongs in the garbage

        if oil gave you protective polish or 10% raw, AND was replacing shield bash, then maybe it'd be decent

  32. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >SnSfags are so gay they oil themselves up
    Can't make it up

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Move like a mizutsune, strike like a nargacuga.

  33. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the best way to play GS is still Strongarm Stance spam

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      But it's also the least fun to play it
      I do think that the other stance could use a buff

  34. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Do we have any idea what to expect from the new gear? Also, apparently a new Melding type is being added.

    I just hit MR 48 but I'm deciding whether to invest in my current stuff or wait until the release to see if it makes some of my gear moot.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I just hit MR 48
      Well, Risen Kush is MR120 and Teo is MR140, I think, so you'd only be able to make use of Chaotic's gear, but no idea what that'll have. The new melding type sounds interesting, hoping it actually has some good stuff. I'm still using talismans from High Rank.

  35. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Have they revealed what MR/AR we will need to be at for the new monsters?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      120 and 140 for the new risen

  36. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Destroyer Oil is still trash. Why is the duration so fucking BAD. It should last a long-ass time and be intended for use on an alt scroll as a buff you reapply a handful of times.

  37. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Just have fun

  38. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    there is zero reason I shouldn't be able to just search by parts for anomaly investigations, because it would make everything 10 times less annoying

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      write capcom/devs
      there actually is a real chance they might add this if they get made aware of it
      or maybe they just listen to japs and ignore gaijins but it can't hurt to try

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        I took the survey and put it in the comments, but I doubt it.

  39. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >new melding lets you have talismans with 3 skills

  40. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got the G. Magala morbing out webm?

  41. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bring back the hunting horn you cowards.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      That World combo is still in Rise, and good job not showing IB HH which was just spin to win

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'M SO FUCKING MAD THEY ABSOLUTELY BUTCHERED HH

      LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED MY GIRL

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      hate how they got rid of the 2 sovlfvl ways we did the recitals with HH.
      hate how they tied the spin to win move behind a meter you build up. but to be fair i did spam that move in iceborne.
      hate how they got rid of the ol' hilt stab combo shortcut. i miss being able to cut tails willy nilly with my fellow bladebros.
      hate how it only plays the song of the Horn for like 1 second then disappears as opposed to before you really hear the horn in battle.
      even after all the shit they fucked with and molested with HH the superpound move is still the tried and true way for me to deal with a monster.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      i liked hunting horn in world and generations but swinging all over the place and having tiny multihits just feel like garbage compared to the massive hits you could get with encore, usually also stunned the monster

  42. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >one change to IG
    ebin

  43. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >no charge blade buff
    >no reinstall

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why would one of the better weapons with no bad moves get a buff

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        to make me play the game

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's fun, fuck balance

  44. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >tanks FPS
    I'm a....BITOFEXPERTBYTHISPOINTHAHA don't worry aboutyourgear.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Thought it was just me. For whatever reason, every time I talk to her my PC fans sound like a jet engine. Rest of the game is dead quiet.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >tanks FPS
        I'm a....BITOFEXPERTBYTHISPOINTHAHA don't worry aboutyourgear.

        They really need to fix this, it's such a weird issue. I had to turn on DLSS to stop it, which isn't a huge deal but it's weird. There must be some scaling issue with the furnace behind her or something.

        My framerate only drops by like 10 when in the smithy, but the junction temp on my GPU jumps almost 10c if I turn off my undervolt.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      They really need to fix this, it's such a weird issue. I had to turn on DLSS to stop it, which isn't a huge deal but it's weird. There must be some scaling issue with the furnace behind her or something.

  45. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I like how they completely missed ground splitter's problem of not persisting upon sheathing.

  46. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    haven't played this since before TU2, what the fuck do i need to do to my mods to not fuck up my save?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      remove them and wait for updates.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't do anything from TU1 to TU2 and I was fine.

  47. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >those Gunlance buffs
    I hope the increase to Ground Splitter's buff duration is substantial, I hate maintaining that shit.

  48. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >lv8 shelling
    >these buffs
    GODlance won tu3

  49. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Do we know the exact release time?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      If I recall, the last updates were at 12pm Japan time on Friday. So, 7pm PST Thursday for me, adjust from there for your needs.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      24th November, noon Japan time.

  50. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    DAILY REMINDER
    MH Rise is NOT a MonHun game. It's a monster fighter game designed form pleb brained NPC normies with very short attention spans.
    If you want real MonHun at the very, very least, go play GU.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a monster fighter
      So a monster hunter game.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        No, moron. I understand you're probably a pedophilic tendie and Rise if your first MH game. But, no, Rise is not Monster Hunter.
        Monster Hunter required you to prep for each hunt, to know the monsters intimately. You had to know the maps, the know the monsters move sets, know what set and weapon you needed. You had track the monster, hunt them, then mark with them with a paint ball for when the ran.
        Rise is just bullshit. You don't have to put any thought into sets or weapons. You don't have to hunt the monsters, or track them when they run.
        It's not even close to a Monster Hunter game.
        Now run along and post some more e-boi waifus and pretend you're not a pedo.
        God I fucking hate Tendies more than anything.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          man this thread was good so far you dumb bitch

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            You should have just ignored eric like the rest of the thread did.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              At this point we may as well just egg him on until he has an aneurysm because he isn't leaving any time soon.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Monster Hunter required you to prep for each hunt, to know the monsters intimately. You had to know the maps, the know the monsters move sets, know what set and weapon you needed. You had track the monster, hunt them, then mark with them with a paint ball for when the ran.
          Yeah no. All you had to do was learn the spawn locations and the game just became the same "monster fighter" you hate rise for being. Hell most didn't even use paintballs especially in gen 3 and beyond where the shadow was easy to track.

          Sorry kiddo but the monster hunter you thought it was doesn't actually exist.
          I wonder if you created the idea be ause you always wanted to play it but never could. That would also explain the irrational hatred of a group of people who don't exist

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry kiddo, you and your little pedo tablet lost. Rise is not Monster Hunter and it never will be.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              >pedo
              Hmm, you seem to be saying this a lot. You wouldn't happen to be projecting would you?
              Are you guilty of something?

              Also rise is a multiplat, I could care less about the switch.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Also rise is a multiplat, I could care less about the switch.
                post steam stats

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Sure when I get home.
                Do you think I'd waste my time here talking to you if I could be on my PC?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >when I get home
                lmao
                sure thing, Champ. Gotta get the photoshop fired up, aye?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Don't own any editing software but at least we know you haven't played a single game now.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Anything you say, Sport. We'll be here waiting for your photoshopped steam stats. But, I'm sure, as luck will have it, the thread will be long dead before your "get home."
                Right, Champ?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                See here's the thing. I don't even need to post stats nothing I've said is dependent on it.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >claims not to be a tendie
                >makes claim he plays non-MH Rise on PC
                >starts making excuses why he can't post steam stats
                hmmmmmm
                how many waifu and e-boi simulators do you have on your switch, fatboy?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I said I didn't care for the switch nothing more nothing less, everything else you just imagined.
                >how many waifu and e-boi simulators do you have on your switch
                You tell me, you know more about my switch than I do.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I started with Tri. So as a MASSIVE oldfag, my opinion is worth more than yours.
      And I say Rise is fun.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        No you didn't. Why do you come to Ganker and just lie?

        man this thread was good so far you dumb bitch

        Did it hurt you feels? To bad moron.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Because it makes me feel good being an original fag of the Monster Hunter series.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        aren't you technically a massive newfag? i'm a tribab too but i don't play the og card

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          The only real OGs are those who used the right thumb stick to swing the weapon (and only when it actually came out, not 15 years later). They are far and few between now.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            GS charge? we don't need no stinking charge. carves only. final destination.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            I unironically used right analog attacks in tri because I gave MH1 a test run to see if I'd like the series and didn't have a PSP back then.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              Are you the retard I've been arguing with?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                No

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          The only real OGs are those who used the right thumb stick to swing the weapon (and only when it actually came out, not 15 years later). They are far and few between now.

          What your starting point says about you:
          >Gen 1 = fossils
          >Gen 2 = OGs
          >Gen 3 = veterans
          >Gen 4 = fans
          >Gen 5 = normies

  51. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >gunlance gets buffed every update through either new skills or balance changes
    >will soon be able to make absolutely ridiculous long 8 builds
    Wonder if they will introduce shelling level 9 by the end though

  52. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    monkey see monkey do hehe

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      But if monke see monkey do, where did Rajang learn to bully Kirins

  53. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Still using Bow.

  54. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    gunlance and switch axe fag here
    what are the changes relative to me
    no I will not read the op or Google patch notes

  55. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Prowlers when?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Prowler when

      That is reserved for real MH games. Hell, even Storeis 1 and 2 are more Monster Hunter than Rise.

  56. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Prowler when

  57. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >still havent made ground splitter buff stay when you sheathe your weapon
    jesus christ capcom why.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's so stupid when they went and made the eruption cannon buff which doesn't kill itself when you sheathe.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because you're supposed to use your mobility options to stay on top of the monster without sheathing
      >B-but I need to heal
      You have a shield and a retarded amount of iframes with RBD, use them.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's not really that big of a problem anymore since lance can just (reverse) blast dash to move around.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      use redirection

  58. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >replaying tri
    >fight pic related
    >roars 3 times in a row and stays on the ceiling for 80% of the fight
    why do people miss him again? this was arguably a worse experience than khezu in FU or any mh game, holy fuck.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Khezu is literally the same but even more boring.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        playing around poison fart clouds is infinitely more boring

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        except when khezu is in the snow mountains hes never actually in a cave where he stays on the ceiling the entire time.

  59. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I still can't believe Sunbreak redeemed Lance, alao props to them for the good changes done to Hammer and IG

  60. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >you will likely be able to roll sneak attack on talismans
    gunlance bros..

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sneak attack is a meme for shellfags that would rather play GL like a bowgun, definitely not worth getting on a talisman

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        It was not worth getting it because the rest of the set was fucking garbage

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          just qurio craft bro

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            >+1 Mushroom Mancer + 4 def up
            >-1 Sneak Attack

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I just want talismans that don't fucking suck dick. Haven't rolled a single good talisman besides rapid morph 3 wirebug whisperer 3 with a level 4 slot.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I had been using a charm I got in early HR Rise like a year ago up until a month ago when I got one that was *slightly* better a few months ago.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Finally

  61. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Break dancing HH > Old HH.

  62. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Im liking the gunlance buffs. With hail cutter being 1pt you can spam wyvern fire with long GL since 2 HCs will give you a full recharge. Theres also the fact that ground splitter will be lasting longer and on a shorter cooldown. I think its currently 25sec recharge and lasts 30seconds? If its something like 15sec with a 40-45sec buff it will be amazing to use.

  63. 4 days ago
    Anonymous
  64. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Soon GLbros

  65. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Gunlance will still be F tier and slower than HBG

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >and slower than HBG
      a lot of weapons are slower than HBG

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Then make the ones that are better

  66. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Dual Blades — Spiral Slash: Attack power slightly increased; elemental scaling slightly increased.
    >let's make DB's strongest move even stronger
    for what possible reason

  67. 4 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Made for katknot

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Made for big hunter cock (mine)

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