Super Mario Sunshine is the best 3d Mario game and I'm tired of pretending it's not

Super Mario Sunshine is the best 3d Mario game and I'm tired of pretending it's not

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Galaxy 1 & 2 are better. sunshine's level design is boring.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Galaxy games are shit and only zoomergays like them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The worst opinion of the day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure it all these Sunshine L’s. You need to accept your childhood was terrible.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it because it's an adventure game rather than just a 3D platformer. Compared to 64 and Odyssey which are 3D obstacle courses, Sunshine feels like a real place first. Not everything was made to be jumped on, and the missions aren't all platforming challenges. It's truly one of a kind, and no game in the series comes close to it.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Been replaying it properly for the first time since around 2006 and it honestly did not age well. Lack of long jumps, frustrating shines and lack of variety makes me struggle to enjoy it. Pinna Park is probably the only area I really enjoy. Can't believe I've had to use savestates to make some shines less frustrating to get such as the Pachinko, Sandbird, Lily Pad Ride and all the shitty levels that remove the FLUDD which make you realise how limited Mario is in his movements compared to SM64, even if the spin jump is kind of fun. Don't get me started on the blue coins and Delfino Plaza being shrouded in darkness for most of the game, looking like absolute shit, or all the jank gameplay that leads to easy deaths, falling off, losing HP, etc.

    Sonic Heroes is another game I replayed that suffers from similar issues, frick the casino levels. And Metroid Prime for its horrid backtracking. Truly a shame to see how being a child + nostalgia blinded me to such bad game design.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're just shit. don't blame it on the game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Used savestates to enjoy
      Just say you are moronic with no skill. Also my 8 year old realized you could actually beat the pachinko level with pure skill and never lose if you are good enough, guess you really got filtered like most morons that played it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >8
        As

        Mario Sunshine may be one of the least enjoyable games ever made. Never trust anyone who grew up with a Gamecube.

        said, you cannot be trusted with anything.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    loved that village level with the lava and chomps

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's mid

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't remember much of the wii but didn't you HAVE to use the wii remote to play galaxy? I remember trying it as a teen and hating how the controls were pointing your wii remote in directions to jump and having to press buttons on a controller rod

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's a wii game released in 2007, so yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        people are saying THAT is better than sunshine?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the 3d all stars version can be played on a normal controller with gyro. People have probably figured out other options with emulation

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am glad that no matter who wins this year, the draft is back on the menu. Should be in full swing by February, December if my bro Joe gets his ice cream.

    Sunshine is shit zoom zoom.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the best 3d Mario game then, alphoomer?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        64 still the 3D king with the best control to date and somehow a better camera than Sunshine, something that should have been impossible. The only game worse than Sunshine is Mario USA. Mario Wonder might be there too, I’m not wasting my time on it to find out so it is just going in un-tiered.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Two weeks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For what? Israel is in trouble, both candidates are saber rattling about who is going to die for Israel the hardest. Neither can say draft out loud but the subtext is clearly there. Why do you think the NYC pro-Palestine protestors are setting in jail still? Cops haven’t had this much fun since Nixon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Two weeks

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gamecube babies really just have the worst taste.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please don't tell me you prefer 64, it aged horribly and is boring as frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No contest. It and the Galaxy pair are way better than an unfinished gimmicky pile of shit like Sunshine.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gimicky pile of shit
          >Prefers Galaxy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah since Galaxy is a far better game.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Galaxy > Sunshine >>>>>> 64

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And what is gimmicky about Galaxy? Shooting star bits? Outside of force feeding lumas, completely optional. Bird flying/ball rolling? Over and done with painlessly. Gravity? Better than flood who kills all momentum and fun.
            >Muh fludd piss stream belly slopper
            And a single jump negates any forward force putting it in glitch category. Is Galaxy’s kit as good as 64? No, Mario is still faster, more acrobatic, and swims better in his debut 3D game. In truth, if Sunshine had not preceded the Galaxy games, they would probably be remembered less fondly. But because of the absolute abortion that was Sunshine released, it gets praised as a return to form.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mario Sunshine may be one of the least enjoyable games ever made. Never trust anyone who grew up with a Gamecube.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sunshine
    >Best 3D Mario game

    In what fricking universe, Sunshinegay? It fricking eats shit and gets easily outdone by any other 3D Mario game. Sit the frick down in the corner of shame and shut the frick up. And this is coming from someone who has 100% finished the fricking game 3 goddamn times overall.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You just have bad taste, especially if you think 64 is better, nostalgiagay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Says the homosexual who loves a rushed, janked as frick game produced in a rushed state with a frickload of bugs/glitches and other moronic bullshit.

        You're a delusional homosexual if you think otherwise.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care, it's fun and has more sovl than 64

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But enough about 64

            nice bait, here's a (you), for not mentioning anything of substance

            >Sunshine
            >More "sovl"

            Again, in what fricking universe? You're all beyond help in shilling for a far jankier game camera and controls-wise. As

            You only like it because it was your first mario game and are blinded by nostalgia, it's the same with galaxy gays.
            Sunshine is a downgrade in every single thing when comparing it to 64, artstyle, graphics, enemies, controls, level design, overworld etc. is all so laughably bad the only conclusion is that 64 was a fluke and that Nintendo has no idea how to make a good game they're solely relying on nostalgia from morons like OP.

            has said, you're blinded by the fricking rose-tinted nostalgiagay goggles. Take that shit off and step into the light, zoomgay child. Step into the light of truth.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              "Sovl" basically amounts to "I can't defend this piece of shit"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So basically, morons use it, I'm guessing?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But enough about 64

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nice bait, here's a (you), for not mentioning anything of substance

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As I non-contrarian, I'd say: Odyssey = Galaxy 2 > Galaxy 1 > 64 >>> Sunshine

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love it, but it could have been way way better with a little longer in the oven.

    I love that Sunshine is an example of how you can just put mario in an original settting, tone, and gameplay concept, and it just works.

    Similar to how Luigi's Mansion was.
    It's similar to the feeling of a summer themed episode of a tv series.

    Galaxy 1&2 are similar, and I respect people who say they're their favorites, but I personally love revisiting areas with slight mutations as they are in mario 64/sunshine.

    It's a game where all the challenges are very unique and tied into the setting.
    I remember flipping with gravity in Galaxy 1/2 but that's more of a platforming twist that's used in several parts of the game (and continue to be used in later mario games).
    There's not many parts of the games that I find truly memorable.

    Then again, I played it when I was like 12 or something.
    Sunshine deserves criticism, but it deserves so much praise.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When Nintendo made Mario Sunshine it was like watching a man go through puberty in reverse, becoming more infantile and deleting the lessons of his mature years. The frustrating thing about Sunshine is that you can see there's a solid foundation, a core of good gameplay, but the designers are doing everything in their power to thwart it. Whenever you approach the threshold of fun, you're struck down by creative choices that could only have been made by people who are ideologically opposed to fun.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's trash on the Cube. Excellent on Wii with Nintendon't though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's the difference

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Consistent framerate which isn't much since there aren't many areas with slow down. I just don't like the Cube.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          eh, fair enough. I played sunshine on original hardware for the first time and the only time I remember there being big lag was trying to get the cataquacks off the sun panels

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it is the worst 3d mario game and i'm tired of pretending it isn't

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    controls are perfect but every level is horrible to play

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and this specifically is why it's the worst 3d mario

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s better than any 3D Mario after that’s for sure

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sunshinegays joining Wind Wakergays in coping with how bad their games are

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You only like it because it was your first mario game and are blinded by nostalgia, it's the same with galaxy gays.
    Sunshine is a downgrade in every single thing when comparing it to 64, artstyle, graphics, enemies, controls, level design, overworld etc. is all so laughably bad the only conclusion is that 64 was a fluke and that Nintendo has no idea how to make a good game they're solely relying on nostalgia from morons like OP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually 64 was my first 3d mario game and while it was good it wasn't as fun as Sunshine. I prefer the gameplay, setting and music of Sunshine

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do zoomers hate Sunshine so much?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers hate sunshine because their favorite streamers and tiktokers only play Mario 64

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The a capella version of the Mario theme and the background music for Delphino Plaza live rent free in my head. I'll give it some credit just for that.

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