Tell me your favorite jap games please

I need to start immersing more. Give me your favorite japanese gamesof all time. Genre does not matter.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Uma Musume Pretty Derby.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is this game free/libre? If not, you shouldn't play it if you want to have freedom.

      https://www.gnu.org/proprietary
      https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-games.html

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm playing a gacha game what makes you think I care about freedom?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >linking the proprietary software article
        >not the who does that server really serve one
        gay.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >game

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Aston Ma-chan
      Cute pun

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still reading Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear
    https://ncode.syosetu.com/n4185ci/
    Yesterday I read chapter 315, yuna fought like 100+ dog sized scorpions, they are inside the pyramid looking for the magic tablet

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ace Attorney even tho anime logic

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >cheek wart
    Why do morons find this attractive?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rance games. Play 3 remake along with 9 and X if you want japanese practice.

    The other major games like 6/sengoku/quest are translated, but I'd recommend playing them in japanese if you can.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Huh? She changed her mind? Don't get it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dumb mutt, google how mangas should be read

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          gottem

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The comic works either way, read correct its dekinai chan having to kill her so she can't learn Japanese, read backwards dekinai chan can no longer touch her because she has learned Japanese.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anki is a meme and literally the reason you're ngmi.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dropped anki 8 months ago, been readin and watching kakusuke on youtube and still feel like im ngmi

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I never feel like I get much of anything from listening at this point so I just read shit. I can recommend Haruki Murakami's Norweigian Wood. It's suprisingly easy to read although I'm probably missing a shitton of nuance

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >perverts commiting sudoku
          I'd rather read generic isekai, I don't want to face reality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      anki should be a side-dish, not your main course. some morons unironically use only anki and whatever app they get recommended on reddit and end up getting burnt out in 2 months. no wonder the "you can't learn japanese" meme was born

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Speaking from experience, you start getting diminishing returns around the 1 year mark. It really does nothing to improve your vocab beyond that. Reading and listening (and talking with natives if you can) will always be better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How the fuck do you memorize 100 cards in a day

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i think that tracker shows the wrong amount
          after i slowed down and stopped adding as many cards i've only really been doing 60 a day on average

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Still how the fuck do you do 60 cards a day, how many hours do you do?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It doesnt take as much time as you think it does.
              I look at the word, if i can recall it quickly i hit Easy/Normal, if i struggle with the reading i hit Hard, if i forgot i hit Again, and each word takes like 10 seconds to get through.
              I've stopped taking Anki seriously since as i mentioned there is diminishing returns, i focus more on reading and listening

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My memory must be shit I just do 10 to 30 card a day max

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone learns at their own pace anon. As long as you are practicing every day you'll be fine. Just don't have Anki be your only source of japanese for the day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you brother

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So literally how the fuck else am I supposed to learn vocab?

      >dude just read manga watch anime
      How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Start with easier things, look up words, mine your own cards. Anki is a trap. It should be a tool to supplement your learning, not a substitute for actually reading the words. There are plenty of lists of comics, books, shows, and games out there for all levels of Japanese learner. Pick something and start reading.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a great way to quit. There's nothing wrong with a basic deck like core 2k to get started.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >taking advice from NGMIs
            These threads are littered with those that burned out because of misusing Anki. Why do you think these threads are filled with so much sour grapes? And yet the meme continues.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Shut up retard.

              t. Over 600k reviews and counting.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have literally any reading comprehension, or are you just this much of an idiot in real life?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              if you're the type to burn out from something that takes less than 1 hour daily, you were ngmi in the first place.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >t. I ate shit for years and now you should too
                There are plenty of people that made the mistake of using Anki for more than an hour a day. And honestly if you're using it even close to an hour a day you're wasting time you could be using actually learning. SRS is a tool, not a substitute.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't like anki therefore no one should use it

                >How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?
                Read Japanese and English versions side by side.
                I did most of the /a/ translation for 5toubun no Hanayome and made sure the translation is mostly accurate and lean literal. Give that a try. The first half of the manga is good and it has furigana too.

                >and lean literal
                What the fuck does this mean? Literal translations (i.e. let's force English to conform to Japanese's grammar) suck ass, just like rewrites. I hope you don't consider translating 自業自得 as "your reap what you sow" wrong.

                I took the physical card pill, but similar principal. Fuck pre-made decks, you learn so much more things you're actually using then trying to bank vocabulary in the hopes you'll remember it when it finally comes up.

                Depends on the quality of the deck. Your cards will be as good as you make them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >>and lean literal
                >What the fuck does this mean? Literal translations (i.e. let's force English to conform to Japanese's grammar) suck ass, just like rewrites. I hope you don't consider translating 自業自得 as "your reap what you sow" wrong.
                It means trying to keep the tone, nuances, word choices as close to the Japanese text as possible while still making it not sound awkward in English.
                5toubun no hanayome is a fun one to read if you're into how different people translate things differently. Some of the chapters have like 6 translations floating around.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                OK so you are just brain damaged, got it. Sorry for wasting your time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I built my own deck and it has 4000+ words in it. Its all about dedication, and making your own anki deck will help you way more than just grabing a pre built one.
            If you cant even muster up the dedication to do that you wont learn the language, plain and simple

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm all for starting a mining deck at some point, I just don't agree with jumping right into reading. It's rough at first, and it's rougher the less you know. I think some level of kanji foundation helps, and anki done sensibly is an easy introduction.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I agree that jumping straight into reading is not ideal. Problem is that getting to the level where you can at least start reading basic stuff like Yotsuba or games like Animal Crossing can be a really messy process, which sucks cause reading is what will drastically improve your comprehension of the language.
                Study materials for the basic shit is really lacking in my opinion, there is a lot of different sources but none of them worked well for me

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Early stuff is always hard, because you just don't know what you don't know. All you can do is follow someone else blindly, or try and decide for yourself what the best path is with poor understanding. I don't think there's any way to really improve the early stages, I guess you could try and write something that references Yotsuba constantly, but what if the learner doesn't like Yotsuba? What if they want to read something else?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This. Vocab learning is already a chore, but having to read material that you don't enjoy makes learning even more of a chore.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Problem is that getting to the level where you can at least start reading basic stuff like Yotsuba or games like Animal Crossing can be a really messy process, which sucks cause reading is what will drastically improve your comprehension of the language.
                1500 vocab words
                basic grammar

                this is the key to learning any language, and the biggest filter. Reading used to be so frustrating for me until I reached this landmark. Pace yourself, never burn out, and you'll be fine.
                Everything after this point is easy, fun, and intuitive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Pace yourself, never burn out, and you'll be fine.
                Im 2+ years in already and enjoying manga/games in jp, dont need the motivation boosts. Im stuck for life learning this thing. Appreciate the words of encouragement regardless

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 10+ years in and can't read anything without a dictionary

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I've coped with the fact that Jisho-kun will be with me for a long time...

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I took the physical card pill, but similar principal. Fuck pre-made decks, you learn so much more things you're actually using then trying to bank vocabulary in the hopes you'll remember it when it finally comes up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >This is so boring.
                >Its boring and I never finished it
                Noticing a trend here anon. Maybe you're one of those people who need to put in a huge amount of effort in order to read in Japanese and then you can't enjoy things because it's so stressful and slow to read through?

                >Maybe you're one of those people who need to put in a huge amount of effort in order to read in Japanese and then you can't enjoy things because it's so stressful and slow to read through?
                Any advice for this? I just figured I need more practice.
                I much prefer learning kanji to practicing reading. I might be too used to reading quickly in English, but I'm not sure how to get over it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My advice is that it'll take you multiple years, so just keep at it and you'll get there eventually. Thinking of all the foreigners you know that get by without perfect English and realize that if you can achieve at least that level in Japanese you'll have accomplished more than most.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Because all "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. The cards format also tends to be WCC instead of a more efficient TSC. Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a completely different corpus, everyday words used commonly in Japan. You should use Ankidrone Starter Pack.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's not true is it? They're only ordered based on newspaper frequency?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                if you order shit, shit comes out anyway. so you need a completely different deck.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >WCC instead of a more efficient TSC
              what

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                /jp/ schizo (or a AJATT schizo) who made the deck he is talking about, ignore him.
                decks with WCC and TSC usually don't have listening inside of them which makes them dogshit.
                By the time you ran out of listening decks, you should just move to japan, instead of spending the rest of your life doing anki deck review.
                There is a point of diminishing returns.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I can't understand the kanji in anything that I read and it's usually impossible to look it up. I literally can't read anything in Japanese, maybe I can pick out a few words here and there.

          >albeit at the expense of not paying as much attention to the kanji.
          1. cover furigana with your finger as you read
          2. learn to focus on the moonrunes and ignore the ruby text
          [...]
          >turn furigana on and off
          not worth the time as a feature for natives. you could tout it as an "accessibility" feature at best.
          [...]
          don't listen to him. anki helps set words in your mind. forget about learning to use them (nuances, varying meanings) though.
          >How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?
          same as with any other language. pause, look up shit, take note of the words/grammar points/etc. you want, check notes again when you come across the same word later.

          >same as with any other language.
          Then how do I do that? I don't remember learning English and I've given up on every other language I tried to learn almost immediately.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There are plenty of things with furigana on the kanji to help you. There are many fun children's manga where everything is easily looked up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it's usually impossible to look it up
            Jisho.org
            If you are reading physical the use one of those weird apps but that'll be slow

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OCR, text hookers, search by radical, handwriting input, transcribing what's said, etc.
            >Then how do I do that?
            dictionary and grammar guide.

            This kanji graded reader series is pretty damn good. Instead of anki or srs it just slowly adds shit and gets your brain to properly guess. It's i + 1 reading material. Good shit.
            https://keystojapanese.com/klc-reader/

            >muh i+1 meme
            it's slightly more convenient. that's all.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              460 days if reading material is 460 days of reading material so I'll take it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are you unaware of pop up dictionaries?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you can't even read basic hirakana you might want to start from there bro.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you can't even read basic hirakana you might want to start from there bro.

        Also english subtitles, I can guarantee you most people who watch enough anime learned random vocab through osmosis and that's how you end up with weeaboos.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          English subtitles are only useful if you ignore them and only use them as a last resort when you couldn't figure out what something means. And to get a hold of generic stock phrases like 上等だ, 身の程知らずな, etc.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          watching anime with english subtitles didn't teach me much. just the really basic stuff everyone knows.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this retard's been spamming his stupidity in /djt/ for a while now. Anki or vocab lists both work fine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This kanji graded reader series is pretty damn good. Instead of anki or srs it just slowly adds shit and gets your brain to properly guess. It's i + 1 reading material. Good shit.
        https://keystojapanese.com/klc-reader/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?
        Read Japanese and English versions side by side.
        I did most of the /a/ translation for 5toubun no Hanayome and made sure the translation is mostly accurate and lean literal. Give that a try. The first half of the manga is good and it has furigana too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So literally how the fuck else am I supposed to learn vocab?

        What is it with zoomer bitches these days that you cannot accomplish anything in life anymore if it doesn't involve using a mobile app? Motherfucker get a kanji book specifically made for learner of the language geared towards teaching you kanji. Are you trying to tell me that there is no such thing in the entire English speaking world? I doubt it. And don't even start with that weird ass book where they tell you a little mnemonic story with each character but don't even teach you the readings. Study kanji like the Japanese do. pic related

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >books
          lol grandpa go back to sleep

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            t. retard pretending to be a zoomer.
            I see kids being interested in physical books all the time because they're neat looking and it's something you can touch and move around and shit. Instinctively it's more attractive to them than merely seeing the same shit on a tablet they're already used to.
            The information is the same. Doesn't matter where it comes from. Books are as valid as they ever were.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stick to your completely retarded core decks then that won't get you anywhere because they simply don't teach you all the readings and meaning you need to know. That is so unbelievably retarded it defies describing. It's the exact opposite of the idiots that learn kanji on their own but refuse to study actual vacublary and words. This is just the revere where you're only doing vocabulary. Eventually you'll reach some form of proficiency but they way you're going about it is so stupidly inefficient that it's much more likely you'll just call it quits and ngmi which is like 90% of you motherfuckers. Again, mostly because you're falling for this stupid guide and heavily relying on anki - a heavily flawed learning tool.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the readings
              if you resorted to studying lists of readings in a vacuum then you've already lost. don't tell me you've learned weird readings like 労う(ねぎらう) and 労わる(いたわる) and not learned the actual words.
              >anki bad
              it's a tool. the secret is in how you use it. like you can use a gun to hunt your next meal, or to have a nice day in the brainstem.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >don't tell me you've learned weird readings like 労う(ねぎらう) and 労わる(いたわる
                No, you fucking retard. Because that reading isn't joyo. Do you know so little? When you study a new character you're supposed to memorize all of its joyo(!) readings. You know what joyo means right? It's expected of you. It's the standard you'll be measured by. It's unbelievable that one has to spell these things out for learners of the language.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?
        Are you retarded? Yes that's the point, you don't understand what they're saying and you're forced to learn and infer based on context.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You gotta have a foundation.
        If you listen to an English sentence by some physician or whatever that uses a lot of big technical terms that you don't know you still understand WHAT he is saying.
        That is learning by immersion, getting the message behind what is being said, subconsciously, over and over and over.
        It worked when you were a poopy shit baby and it will work now when you're an adult.
        Now, to get that foundation in Japanese you need
        >grammar, syntax
        This really isn't difficult, I recommend Cure Dolly videos.
        >Hiragana and Katakana
        2 weeks to get that shit hammered into your brain
        That's pretty much it, at this point it just comes down to listening and reading Japanese.
        This means anime with Jap audio and Jap subtitles. Listening and readin, pausing, typing the sentence up, looking at every word, Yomichan is a great extension for looking up definitions of Japanese, and keep on doing it.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    super robot wars

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can get all the games you'll ever need from freem(dot)ne(dot)jp
    Japs upload all their rpg maker games and the likes there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(dot)
      Why does Ganker filter that site?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe it doesn't, just in case
        https://www.freem.ne.jp/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wasn't on the whitelist

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >https://www.freem.ne.jp/
      Any recommendations?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, they're all ok but not memorable, last one I played was mirai kagami, but dropped it after a while.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the classic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This masterpiece
        https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/29229

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        扉の伝説 (Tobiden)

        Example reviews:
        https://quofvnrw.wordpress.com/2018/05/05/扉の伝説-tobira-no-densetsu-review/
        https://hadlerblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/27/扉の伝説-tobira-no-densetsu/

        >Tobiden proved to be one of the best RPGs I’ve ever played from both a gameplay and writing perspective. There’s so much variety to the gameplay I’ve had to leave out a lot of stuff. The writing is consistently entertaining and the story is moving in ways that I could only really talk about by spoiling it, which I can’t do here. Basically, I loved Tobiden in all respects, and I hope I’ve conveyed why I like it so much and why I think it’s a good game. If you’re interested, give it a shot: it’s completely free.

        But be careful, the game pushes the idea of reproductive futurism (simply put the idea that "children are our future"). Personally I'm okay with it, but it proved very controversial among "free JRPG Twitter", because many of them are trans and will never have kids, or are opposed to the futher existence of white people in general.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I played that up until the "now there's a time limit to restore the museum" or whatever, miss me with that shit. It was fun until then tho.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the limit is fucking huge, it's impossible to pass unless you're retarded

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Tobiden
          It's a fuckin meme game

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dungeon Travelers, fun as hell but there's not THAT much reading so probably not what you want. So full voice visual novels, one I liked recently was Maple Colors

        this one is funky
        /win/game/15682

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rance series. Not hard, but not baby easy either. Perfect for intermediate learners.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just quit before it's too late

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here you go, N5 newbies, an easy novel just for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can pretty much follow the story but what does やった means in this context?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        did

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        killed
        it's 殺った

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck do I learn kanji

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Read https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kanji.html

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you shouldn't "learn" kanji, just learn each word as it's own thing, like you would any other language.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What if I learn Romaji first?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what you mean. romaji is just the english alphabet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, I meant learning japanese written in phonetic

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't even start with that. Just learn the Kana and Kanji.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't even start with that. Just learn the Kana and Kanji.

              yeah it's not worth it, just learn hiragana and katakana, it's not hard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you read until your eyes bleed and your brain learns that the only way to stop the pain is to recognize the squiggles as soon as possible

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Or you can just apply a system to it and save yourself a lot of pain but the people here will tell you that's a "waste of time"
        Mind you, by system I don't mean blindly grinding kanji with no context either

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you mean anki like so?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >jisho screenshots in anki cards
            are you a serial killer?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              maybe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Grind premade deck / make your own from immersion. It's literally that simple

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wanikani

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Someone once said only go up to level 10, then really incorporate vocab and grammar before moving on beyond level 10 on wanikani. it was a more condensed guide, and didn't shill anki. wish i had saved it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Learn your radicals and then use an app or program that tests you in multi choice about their meanings and readings. Also drawing them in the correct stroke order legitimately helps but is obviously more time consuming

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    十三機兵防衛圏

    But only play it after you know Japanese. It would be a waste to use it as a learning game. Make it your reward for having learned.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Reading Stein's; Gate in Japanese. Does anything ever happen? 5 chapters and they've only been faffing around Akiba and shitposting on 2chan. This is so boring.

      >reward
      Its boring and I never finished it though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but 13 is the opposite of boring. It's pure soul.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This is so boring.
        >Its boring and I never finished it
        Noticing a trend here anon. Maybe you're one of those people who need to put in a huge amount of effort in order to read in Japanese and then you can't enjoy things because it's so stressful and slow to read through?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but Steins gate is really fucking boring in the beginning. Supposedly it gets better but it made me drop it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            s;g is often called an entry-level vn but it's just as likely to filter beginners as any other vn. it takes FOREVER to get interesting after the pretty cool start it has.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Depends entirely on what I'm reading. Besides, your theory doesn't really apply to 13 Sentinels and SG because it's mostly voiced.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright is great for learning. It has furigana, so its very easy to look up words, albeit at the expense of not paying as much attention to the kanji. I'd still recommend it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even though I know "未来" I can't help but take a peek at the furigana despite not needing it.
      I wonder how japs learn to ignore that shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      games really need an option to turn furigana on and off per button press during dialogue

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        damn, i remember there was one game that let you only see furigana if you tap on a word in the text box but i dont remember its name

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your best bet is to use text extractor with a pop up dictionary, or chiitrans lite, or any of those so that only when you hover over a word you see the furigana/meaning

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >albeit at the expense of not paying as much attention to the kanji.
      1. cover furigana with your finger as you read
      2. learn to focus on the moonrunes and ignore the ruby text

      games really need an option to turn furigana on and off per button press during dialogue

      >turn furigana on and off
      not worth the time as a feature for natives. you could tout it as an "accessibility" feature at best.

      So literally how the fuck else am I supposed to learn vocab?

      >dude just read manga watch anime
      How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?

      don't listen to him. anki helps set words in your mind. forget about learning to use them (nuances, varying meanings) though.
      >How the fuck am I supposed to do that if I can't understand what the fuck they're saying?
      same as with any other language. pause, look up shit, take note of the words/grammar points/etc. you want, check notes again when you come across the same word later.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >not worth the time as a feature for natives.
        lolwut? videogames are for teenagers, and shounen manga all uses furigana. Why tf don't games use them too?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          old vidya had technical constraints (limited storage space, RAM, and/or resolution). Games meant for children feature few kanji, if they aren't kana-only outright.
          I guess it could be possible for current vidya to have furigana. I mean, YKW games have it.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like dragon quest, most of them have furigana.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dragon's dogma
    all the trauma center games
    muramasa vanillaware
    muramasa vn

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dark Souls 1
    Dark Souls 2
    Dark Souls 3
    Bloodborne
    Sekiro
    Elden Ring

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not much text and voice acting is in english

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nethergate/Avernum/Geneforge japanese versions when?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are Zelda games easy Japanese?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OOT on the 3DS has furigana i believe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, very easy. Very little reading and furigana on every game made after the N64 era. Definitely made with children in mind.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any easy to understand but fun games besides Pokemon?

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ehh, I mostly play Vns and Magireco for the japsnese grind tbh

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get 2 or three hours of solid study in every week. I'm really enjoying the reading. I've been watching vtubers play Dragon Quest games I've already played in English.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      * Every day
      I've also been watching that dumbell show while working out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I had a hatred for those but they actually seem pretty good for learning

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >vtubers playing DQ
      any good ones?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.youtube.com/c/Kakusuke/playlists

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okayu speaks pretty clearly and reads the dialog out loud.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Play 1+2. They don't have that many kanji, and all relevant commands are in kana.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    RUINA廃都の物語
    It's even free.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is the /jp/ guide a troll? You're not supposed to use Anki?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html

        fuck off shill

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no you must use this guide with a donate button
          fuck off

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            your guide is literally a patreon scam.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Use Anki, just don't only use Anki. Don't drill hours of it daily, don't use it to learn new words, don't use it to substitute for actually, you know, engaging with Japanese.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      read the djt guide, https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

      it's advised to use anki

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tantei Jinguuji Saburou, hardboiled detective noir series. Super chill, super comfy

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These threads will never not be shitty. Stop talking about japanese and talk about video games for once.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate video games.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >/vt/rannies

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Odin Sphere

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you should play one of them gaems that are like text only instead of fooling yourself with shit that is like 90% gameplay and only 10% reading

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thank goodness for Yakuza

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not him but I get bored playing VNs in english let alone nip, JRPGs are fun, have enough words for you to read and since stats and battle language are so repetitive you get words and phrases burnt into your brain through sheer exposure.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >can't understand someone at a store asking "Do you want a bag?"
        >can read the text for "hit points" and "mana points" in the game
        I guess it doesn't matter if you don't live in JP but it's kinda funny.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >can read the text for "hit points" and "mana points" in the game
          Whoa

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I feel attacked by that first part, it actually happened to me while I was travelling a few years ago. Can read everything no problem but listening is a whole nother thing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it should be a graduation requirement for one to read all uta games in japanese
      a mark that one is no longer a dekinai

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How are these?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Beyond masterpiece and i am not joking at all, from gameplay to characters to story is freaking good
        if you like JRPGs you will love it no doubt

        [...]
        Did I go too far in gathering every single Eushully game + all their updates and appends + all available extra content like artbooks?

        Based as fuck keep up the good work

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How are these?

      Did I go too far in gathering every single Eushully game + all their updates and appends + all available extra content like artbooks?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        now make a torrent so I can leech it and never seed myself

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you're using anki then ditch it.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Fate CCC was 100% translated months ago
    >still in editing phase
    Uh, It will probably be faster to leadn japanese isnt it

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yakuza 0 and 5 are great for immersion when i was like 1 year in. i'm reading my very first vn right now, but i just can't help liking actual books more than this. in the end everything is just taste, immerse in what you like, and you're definitely gonna make it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >in the end everything is just taste
      Thank you water is wet poster.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i'm not wrong though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >i'm not wrong though
          What part of "water is wet" gave you the impression that something was wrong? Shit dude are you ok?

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just a friendly reminder:
    If you're reading stuff fairly regularly, you should try to move to a 和和辞典 as quickly as possible.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    prove her wrong: protip you dekinai

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it really is a mystery to me how japs are generally shit at english across the board it's the easiest language ever to learn, it took me about 3 years to get the whole language down, after that it was only a matter of learning new vocabulary.
      it's more than likely because they learn japanglish instead of actual english
      >中国語はとてもシンプルなのよ
      chinkaboo bros is it true?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it really is a mystery to me how japs are generally shit at english across the board
        The real answer is Japanese English education is actively designed to fail at teaching EFL much less ESL.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I also don't know english, so i can see why they have trouble.
        >I am a english native

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I imagine Japan treats English classes like how Canada treats compulsory Canadian French courses, with tremendous resentment and indifference

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        中国語は日本語とか他の言語に比べて文法は簡単なもの、単語数が多くて、声調、成語などの難関がある。中国語も日本語も勉強しているものとして、中国語のほうが難しいと断言できる。ちなみに韓国語も日本語よりむずかしい。

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Japanese can only produce a tiny amount of sounds meanwhile English pronunciation is completely fucked, with sounds that very few other languages have
        >grammar is completely different so you have to basically relearn how to do grammar altogether
        It's not that hard to understand.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      vn name?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        something about the pastries club

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          found it
          Anata ni Koi Suru Ren'ai Recette

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're welcome

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be n2
    >read 元気 as motoki

    ngmi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine malding over kotowaza

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anon are you a schizo? Where did that idea come from? I wish I had voices in my head.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          real talk: why are these losers using 「喰う」instead of 「食う」?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ググってみ

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              translate it weebs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                basically 喰う's got a more boorish sort of 感じ

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                try googling

                that'll be 30000 yen + tip

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                there is a fork and a spoon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                食う= casually eating, enjoying a meal
                喰う= eating for the sake of living

                Basically humans do the former and animals the latter

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Speak for yourself

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ググってみ

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Come on now, you should pick up the readings and even now how to read things you never seen before

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's alright just keep 真面目

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'll do my best to keep on shinmenmoku.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Today, anon wasn't a gay and was a pretty cool guy.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy VII

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can read hiragana and katakana but know nothing else
    Where do I go from here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      heisig

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pick up vocab and learn grammar

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Where do I go from here
      I hear Australia is great this time of the year.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You get filtered and give up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://keystojapanese.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/How-to-Study-KLC-2020-09-14.pdf

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Learn some basic grammar and then you can basically read anything if you use yomichan plugin and open everything with your web browser

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most important part of learning is having a goal, for example, do you want to mainly READ japanese or LISTEN, or TALK?
      If you want to GO to japan, your #1 priority should be talking.
      If you just want anime, you can get away with just listening.
      If you want hentai / video games, kanji should be a hard focus (warming: don't learn kanji's as kanji's, learn the word first, then learn the kanji, and associate the kanji with the word, you will see "kanji readings", ignore them, the only use of reading is for you to understand if the word is chinese or not, which isn't that important).
      Note that kanji is not optional, you should start learning them ASAP.
      -install IME to type in japanese
      -install yomichan using a youtube tutorial, basically you can translate japanese in your browser without needing to copy-paste into a translator all the time (but you should double check your interpretation with a translator). Note that for yomichan, you could click on the kanji's inside the popup and you can then see the meaning of the kanji. You can also go crazy with yomichan and connect it with ANKI for customized decks, but you don't "need it" for the first year.
      -You need a dedicated source for studying grammer, like cure dolly or tae kim, or maybe even genki if you want (bunpro is a paid service that can also teach grammer).
      -You need an SRS deck for learning (in order of most important to least important, but depends on goal):
      >sentences (ideally with listening too)
      >vocab
      >kanji (go SLOW on this, do 1 kanji a day if you need to unless you already know the kanji)
      Note some people can work exclusively with sentence decks, as long as you feel like you are learning keep going.
      Most people use ANKI, bunpro is cool but paid.
      I personally use renshuu, I have spent a year with it, I spend about 30-60 minutes a day on average (which is very bad, all my decks are stacked up), but I'm used to it. Renshuu is nice because it's sort of free. I will explain renshuu in the next post.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Renshuu is fucking shit, but I got hooked onto it because it has a fake gacha system and cute character evolution system (which sadly only has about 1 year of content unfortunately, and one character is behind a pay wall). It also works on mobile so if you ever had to be away from your computer for an extended period, renshuu has a pretty nice "hover over words for meaning", and that's something that ANKI is missing.
        I should probably tell you right now that I am primarily learning how to read, and I would say that renshuu is good for reading because I love it's kanji dictionary. At first I hated it, because it just dumps 100's of words and the order is kind of annoying. But later on it I have a very efficient way of learning kanji which is instead of learning random kanji's the deck gives me, I manually add the kanji's that I want into my deck (I recommend learning random kanjis at first because every kanji from 0-200 is useful).
        The decks are kind of buggy and you really need to steer your learning experience, sometimes my vocab's have words that I would never use, so I remove them, I also remove katakana words that are just english... but some katakana is not trivial but I still remove them eventually).
        There is probably a bunch of other things that I hate about renshuu, and if you are into micromanaging your learning experience, renshuu is not for you, maybe bunpro is better, or maybe you can go for a purely with ANKI if you hate cloud apps / you want offline support.
        Personally I don't consider myself a japanese try-hard, I don't really want to talk to japanese people, and I don't want to watch anime, I just like watching jav and reading/playing hentai.
        Also the most important japanese resource: fucking google the japanese grammer question and 10 articles/forum threads will appear.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >graded readers, sometimes has listening
          tadoku.org
          >dictionary, sometimes has example sentences
          jisho.org
          Also to add to renshuu:
          the options it gives is multiple choice which in my opinion isn't good because it doesn't mean you have "memorized" the word, you could just use your educated guess which is bad, so press ENTER to skip the question, also I can use numbers to select the option. Only select the correct option when you can get the answer without even looking at the answers.
          Also there is a sentance under the vocab answer, so when I am doing my vocab deck, I am also reading a sentance which is very important.
          And for the kanji deck, you can click to show common words used with the deck (but most of the time I will scan through the kanji dictionary and check if the word is common enough to learn, because something it gives you very uncommon words, and I don't bother learning words that don't appear in my sentences and it will tell you the number of times the word appears in your sentence decks, and the green + sign will tell you that the word is queued or inside your vocab deck, but if you have multiple decks you need to expand it to see which one).
          Also you don't need to finish every card in the deck, you should try to grill yourself on cards you don't memorize, but just press the "end quiz" and go to the next one and it will have all the cards you didn't complete.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      read the djt guide, https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck off shill

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    猫いらず

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Alright bros, i need your almighty help
    So as you can in the pic the official translation is "wild instincts" but something doesn't make sense to me, the combined Kanjis means undoubtedly "Wild" but what about the Katana?
    I can't find any confirmation anywhere that it means "Instinct"
    So what's the catch here?
    If you need some context, it's a spell that reveals hidden things.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You should be able to read this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's chinese, nigero

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's not

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No

      Alright bros, i need your almighty help
      So as you can in the pic the official translation is "wild instincts" but something doesn't make sense to me, the combined Kanjis means undoubtedly "Wild" but what about the Katana?
      I can't find any confirmation anywhere that it means "Instinct"
      So what's the catch here?
      If you need some context, it's a spell that reveals hidden things.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    カン for 感, which can be used as "sense", for instance like in 六感. Or, obviously, what you just posted.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it make sense for it to be カン for 感 but how did the translator figure that out? is that a common thing you learn at school or something? or was it because of the context (spell that reveals hidden things) ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >is that a common thing you learn at school or something?
        You mean... that "kan" means instinct? I guess.

        The context is unmistakable, when kan is used as a single noun (not as a compound) it's either sense 感, instinct 勘, vision 観 or space 間, making the meaning even more obvious.

        As to why they decided to write it in katakana, in videogames they tend to replace normal words for katakana, probably for kids I guess.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Things like this confuse the hell out of me
          if you use deepl or google translate to translate 野生のカン the results are lacking
          But let me ask one final question, kinda dumb sometimes in some games the カ(ka) looks exactly the same as 力(chikara) so how can i tell if it is one or the other ? does it depend on the context? is there some rule that you cannot pair Kanji with Katakana?
          Well that was more than one question, but i hope they make sense

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is it surrounded by katakana? It's katakana
            Is it surrounded by hiragana/kanji? it's kanji

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So Katakana is never paired with Kanji, that's something to keep in mind, thank you very much

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if you use deepl or google translate to translate 野生のカン the results are lacking
            Well that's kinda disappointing as it seems a common enough phrase.

            >But let me ask one final question, kinda dumb sometimes in some games the カ(ka) looks exactly the same as 力(chikara) so how can i tell if it is one or the other ? does it depend on the context? is there some rule that you cannot pair Kanji with Katakana?
            >Well that was more than one question, but i hope they make sense

            I cannot come up with a situation in which you would use chikara but instead you'd put "ka" in katakana.

            Throwing out this example, you're kinda right in that you have some kanji that are undistinguishable (and some of them have radicals that change depending on font) but from my experience they're not semantically close enough to make them confusing with context.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Got it, i guess some things will come naturally as the experience and knowledge keeps growing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        because what else can it be, einstein? wild can? wild feelings? wild government service?

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how do i stop forgetting which is which between ウ and ワ

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i dont know bro Im still confused about V and U, and S and 5, and H and N, and 1, i and l

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know bro I just know it because that's the way it is

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >she actually cucks him
      Good show.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    日本語出来る俺が日本語出来ないの馬鹿で話すない

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      話せない*

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        直すな

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >俺

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Im personally a boku chad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >で話すない
      you fucking retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      日本語でok

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >出来ないの馬鹿
      This isn't chink. That's not how you form relative clauses.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anon that post is full of baits from start to finish.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For people who have been learning a long time, do you get better at reading tiny fucking kanji the better you get? I have to zoom in like 50% more to read japanese than I do english, but I don't know if thats because my eyes are bad or just not enough experience

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's more than you don't even need to read the kanji, by context and overall shape/complexity you get the word.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dunno, I know chinese so half of my kanji journey has been on ez modo.
      Also where are you seeing these tiny kanji? Even playing on the switch I can still see most words fine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        which chinese? taiwanese? mandarin? those other unpronounceable ones?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >taiwanese? mandarin
          Nobody tell him

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Mandarin, but I also know the taiwan dialect.

          I don't mean anywhere specifically, I mean even in this thread (直すな) I can easily discern english text but even a kanji as simple as that I need to squint, anything more complicated I need to zoom in

          You might just need to look at them more like the other guy said.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't mean anywhere specifically, I mean even in this thread (直すな) I can easily discern english text but even a kanji as simple as that I need to squint, anything more complicated I need to zoom in

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but mainly through context. Hell katakana is still an exercise in context after all these years. Don't be afraid to get a magnifying glass or up the font while learning.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone getting tired of these threads? It's always the most retarded takes, the lamest excuses, assholes being amug for no reason, intentionally spreading misinformation, etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >assholes being amug for no reason
      >reason immediately precedes said phrase
      the lack of self-awareness is astounding

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You don't have to be a massive fucking gay just because you see a retard who sabotages himself.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Then get fucking good. You think you're the only person struggling to learn a convoluted language? The tools are there for you to use (e.g. itazuraneko guide as a starting point), and you can see plenty of answered questions. Make use of them
          How self-centered can you get? I'm surprised you haven't gone blind yet seeing how myopic your opinions are are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bro are we even in the same conversation I just said these threads are not fun anymore. I already know japanese.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's always the most retarded takes
      Which is why there's a lot of people who enter these threads just to fool around and have a laugh like retards typing in intentionally wrong jap or just fucking around with jap images.

      People seriously doing advice wars and whatnot are probably(?) relatively new and haven't grown tired with the futility of it. They also lack self awareness to a ridiculous extent because they always type like self righteous gods while usually either saying some turbo dumb shit or some stuff that is personal and could or could not work for different people (yet they talk about it as the one and only true method). It's all very funny for people who stopped taking these threads seriously.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw don't know what that kanji is but can infer from the context that she's saying 良かった
        wtfwt

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          にぱ~

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It looks like she's strapless

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remember to pray to the japanese god Azuna every day to get better.
    I'm not getting better because I hate my mom btw it's not my fault.
    Also I'm probably better than all of you lol.
    Anki is bad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >most sane /djt/ poster.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NOO I DONT WANNA DO MY REPS AAAAAAAHH

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did learning japanese made you guys realize how impressive the human brain is? Just a few years ago I knew nothing but in a relatively short amount of time you suddenly read thousands of kanji with no issues. People cry this shit is impossible but they're clearly underestimating themselves.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >with no issues
      havent gotten there yet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My memory has gone to complete shit since learning Japanese so no. Initially I thought my memory was just bad specifically IN Japanese (like being unable to recall specific lines from characters, forgetting foreshadowing in plots, even forgetting character names), but it's actually affected my consumption of English media as well as my real life. I just can't remember fucking anything anymore.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Japanese is my 3rd language and I get that. I struggle sometimes to remember words in my native language and I never hsd that issue before. No regrets though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Learning a new language will always fuck up your existing languages (e.g. you'll start when you want to use an expression that only exists in 1 language). It's a sad fact of life.

          So Katakana is never paired with Kanji, that's something to keep in mind, thank you very much

          >never
          Not that anon. It's not common, but I wouldn't go as far as to say never.

          >don't tell me you've learned weird readings like 労う(ねぎらう) and 労わる(いたわる
          No, you fucking retard. Because that reading isn't joyo. Do you know so little? When you study a new character you're supposed to memorize all of its joyo(!) readings. You know what joyo means right? It's expected of you. It's the standard you'll be measured by. It's unbelievable that one has to spell these things out for learners of the language.

          >joyo table
          oh shit don't tell me you fell for the joyo meme. have fun not knowing how to read 嘘(lie), 掴む(to grasp), 嗅ぐ(to smell), 絆(bond), 噂(rumor), 鞄(bag, レジ袋, バッグ, etc.), 痙攣(seizure), 癲癇(epilepsy), 鎧(armor), 槍(spear), etc.
          >inb4 "muh usually written in kana"
          I wouldn't fucking know those words if I hadn't encountered them myself you cunt.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >trying to become proficient
            >don't tell me you know how to read these words
            do you realize how retarded you sound right now?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >twisting the words
              what a pathetic attempt at coping. the jouyou table isn't the end-be-all. I doubt you'll get much mileage out of shit like 璽 which appears on the list only because it's in the constitution.
              and if your anki deck lacks a "necessary reading", you can always make a card for it with an example sentence.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                oh you said, "not" reading. i know most of those words. most of them one will come across rather soon imo. you're guilty of twisting my words too though. i never said you only need to do joyo. it's the required minimum. anki core decks that get recommended here all the time don't even meet that standard.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >We should make a list of kanji for common use so we don’t go retarded like Chinese did
            >yea, and we should require all government documents to be only written in joyo, so it remains accessible to the citizens
            >What a great, reasonable idea
            >
            >
            >wait what about the constitution

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I said get much mileage, not that they should remove it. Hell, the list never made much sense in the first place. 襲 is on the list but 龍 isn't, despite being included in the former.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            oh no, 50 words i'll have to learn independently, the horror

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are always full of retards so let me get you a good advice as someone that actually managed to get proficient enough to have fluent random and long conversations with Japanese people:

    No matter what method you pick, keep up with it. People were learning this language 100 years ago with infinitely worse and more time-consuming processes than you do now. Whatever you pick will work if you just keep at it, constantly, daily.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      arigatou, sensei-san.. hontouni chishiki na hito ni gozaimasu

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    貴様

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can I just watch a lot of raw anime and learn by immersion?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only one way to find out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, but that won't stop you now will it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not only you can, but that's also the most efficient method to learn a language, but only if it's comprehensible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but that will stop you now won't it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. It's a cope by people too lazy to properly study.
      You only passively improve by immersing when you already know a fair amount of the language.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you do 10,000 hours perhaps

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        at one hour a day that's 27 years?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But at 16 hours a day that's not even two years

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but 27 hours a day that's only 1 year!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It helps pick up a ton of common words but you won't get any sort of complex or even common vocab used outside of animu so not really. But it helps.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only way to learn japanese, prove me wrong
    protip: you cant

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Missing RTK. Enjoy being an illiterate babby.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kinosei is pretty kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      花子ちゃんお菓子は好きデスカ?
      僕の家はお菓子がイッパイデス
      ママにはもう許可もらってるデス
      おいでおいで!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        自殺する

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don't do it anon there is always a way

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think you meant to say 自殺して unless you want to have a nice day lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't do it anon there is always a way

            ごめんにゃさい

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              分かればいいにゃん

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            首をヤレェクソガッキ

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is 自殺なさい alao correct?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              しなさい

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Add し after 殺 although that sounds less rough to me at least. ーなさい makes me think of a mother urging her child to do something

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why are half the sentences in kana?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you think famalino?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            uhhhhhhhhh to be funny?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Read the picture that post is replying to. Believe in yourself!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                reading is hard
                so in this case katakoto means broken nip and the random katakana implies that it's spoken by a foreigner?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes that can be one way of passing the foreigner mispronunciation to the written format. It's often used tbh.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm more used to it being kana the whole way through like

                [...]
                I even went to fetch a live example for you. What a good person I am.

                also didn't know what katakoto meant so I learned a few things today

                it really is a mystery to me how japs are generally shit at english across the board it's the easiest language ever to learn, it took me about 3 years to get the whole language down, after that it was only a matter of learning new vocabulary.
                it's more than likely because they learn japanglish instead of actual english
                >中国語はとてもシンプルなのよ
                chinkaboo bros is it true?

                asian language skills don't translate well to anglos, but some of them are quite similar to each other like japanese/korean/chinese

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sometimes you only stress a few words like おいでおいで is right enough but the デス is very thick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes that can be one way of passing the foreigner mispronunciation to the written format. It's often used tbh.

                I even went to fetch a live example for you. What a good person I am.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What does any of what you posted have to do with my image?

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let me just get through my core 30,000 words in Anki and then I'll start reading.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No one does that. Anki haters make up stupid scenarios to dismiss the app.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just replace 30,000 with Core2k and it happens all the time.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    PLAY GHOST TRICK
    SHU TAKUMI WRITES LIKE A CHILD AND I COULDN’T BE HAPPIER

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    どうか自殺してくださいませ

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry for the retarded question, but would using deepl for sentences that I can't understand after 10 minutes of trying to decipher on my own be a good or bad idea? Happens to me often while trying to read my first VN in jap (after about a year of ankidroning like a dumbass).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      text extractor/chii trans lite

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, that’s fine, but really make sure you learn grammar from it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't get used to skipping small things that you don't understand for the sake of getting through something or getting the gist. Spend the time with one of the many grammar references out there + the ai translator and try to pick apart what you weren't understanding. Some work now pays dividends later if you're serious about actually wanting to understand Japanese.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can resort to machine translation as a last resort, but the preferred way is to dissect the sentence, look up the words and relevant grammar points, recognize expressions, proverbs, idioms, and references (if any), and work from there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I still use deepl sometimes, it's fine.
      If you have a good foundation you can immediately tell it translated something wrong and sometimes you yourself have a brainfart so you need that machine translation help

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is why grammsr study is important.
    People here know the words but fuck up basic grammsr so you end up saying something completely different from what you intended

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dude studying grammar is pointless just read a lot lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Back to /jp/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure all of the 0 people who legit thought grammar was useless and not worth studying have been thoroughly convinced.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's the point of this post

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Clearly it is attempting to point out by the use of sarcasm that the post it's replying to is useless.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The sarcastic remark was even more useless.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >write a retarded post that is completely useless
              >someone makes fun of the futility of it by the use of sarcasm
              >w-well your post was even more useless
              Making fun of retardation is never useless and it's good for the soul.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not useless. A least one person engaged it by asking for places to study grammar. Your gay sarcastic post was ignored by the entire rest of the people here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post some good grammar resources
      after reading Tae Kim I've come to the conclusion that I'm retarded, and will never have a full understanding of grammar, just mostly understanding the gist of things

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wow, just like every native speaker ever

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you don't even consciously know the rules of english, but your brain has figured it out. stop learning and start acquiring

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cure Dolly's videos helped me. I know a lot of people meme them due to the creepy look and weird pronunciation but I watched them muted with subtitles anyways so that wasn't a problem for me. Also I think they got transcribed somewhere so you don't even need to watch the videos.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is kanji a good tradeoff? I'm new but putting an entire word in one character seems incredibly efficient

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely. It actually really helps because there are wayy too many similar/identical words so kanji immediately sorts it for you.
      And sometimes even if you forget the reading you still understand what's wrotte because you know what the kanji stands for

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I thankfully got started in the beginning of high school so I don’t have to do this shit while juggling college andアルバイト, but the thing that sucks about learning Japanese is that you kind of have to ankidrone for a while (or something similar, I use WaniKani) in order to build up a base of basic vocabulary before July can even try to read anything

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Linda Cube

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Such an original taste.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What can I say I'm a sucker for fifth gen jrpgs

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is the perfect picture for dumb esl posters. They tend to like tranime.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The same things again and again and again. Might as well make a /ljg/ learning jap with games general on /vg/ since you are as repetitive and boring as one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not contribute something new then, friend?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah you're right, we need room for another twitter screenshot thread instead!

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you like Uncharted Waters: New Horizons the gaiden game is great.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never got into the series but I fucking love the music. Is this a good place to start?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd recommend playing the PS/Saturn remake of New Horizon first. The spinoff is full of appearances and references to the original cast which you will appreciate a lot more if you play it first.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is that different from the PC version much?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't played the PC version but I know the duel system is different and the graphics are different than console releases. The SNES and Mega Drive games are roughly the same game with slightly different graphics and sound. The PS/Saturn games are more of a remaster of the console versions. But in the end, which version you play comes down to preference.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://hinative.com/
    Never seen this mentioned, you can search through questions asked to native speakers.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you are so good, what are you playing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anki, I don't want to ruin a game by being completely uncomfortable with the japanese

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you will never learn the vocab you need to enjoy the game because the game probably uses anime japanese.
        but for me, there is a shotacon game that i've already played in english, and I've just been replaying it over and over again and it has greatly increased my knowledge of hentai words.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >anime japanese

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            bruh most of the VN's people play are in middle earth

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Coincidentally I just learned the other day that they call middle earth 中つ国 which I already knew as a way of referring to Japan in some stories. Middle Earth confirmed as being Japan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      eratohok

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thanks i'm blind now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm reading right now so nothing, but I've been playing P5 now that it's out on PC

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pic

      What does any of what you posted have to do with my image?

      外国の人の思われる片言で小さな子供をまとめている人

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okay? Why?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >why
          See

          >It's always the most retarded takes
          Which is why there's a lot of people who enter these threads just to fool around and have a laugh like retards typing in intentionally wrong jap or just fucking around with jap images.

          People seriously doing advice wars and whatnot are probably(?) relatively new and haven't grown tired with the futility of it. They also lack self awareness to a ridiculous extent because they always type like self righteous gods while usually either saying some turbo dumb shit or some stuff that is personal and could or could not work for different people (yet they talk about it as the one and only true method). It's all very funny for people who stopped taking these threads seriously.

          aka just fooling around.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            そっか

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If you are so good
      I am terrible but i am replaying Dragon Star Varnir in Japanese

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kuro 2 was shit but had some cool scenes

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I see, you live in South America! Your Japanese is so good I thought you lived in Japan!

    Bros I made it, the games are finally acknowledging my efforts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Good job anon! You showed them!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's very cute

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What is the difference in this game if you pick Japan or other regions?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They did it. They actually pulled a '日本語は上手ですね'. How patronizing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >t. gets irrationally angry at children's video games

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ah yes I forgot. I'm sure they included that text for all of the children studying Japanese in Argentina that are playing the game in Japanese on their Switch. How could I be so foolish?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How is that patronizing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          上手ですね is basically a statement about othering. You defy expectation because you're not ethnically Japanese, but you're not threatening because you cannot master our language. It's the verbal equivalent of a 'you tried' sticker.

          When you actually manage to pierce the veil, it happens a lot less often. And even then, when it does happens, it's almost always an implicit attempt to get you to talk about how hard or impossible Japanese was to master to reassure them that their language is glorious and they Japanese people are uniquely suited for it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're reading too much into it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Make your own call if you want. This is the truth I've gathered from living there for 4 years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Some e-celeb told people the japanese saying you're decent is actually offensive because they never say what they actually think beause the culture is to be humble akways regardless of your feelings and ever since people parrot it as if the japanese are unable to think you're actually decent

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's racist if you think about it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              For some weird reason it's widely acceptable to be racist towarda the japanese.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's acceptable to be racist towards any competent non-violent race

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              For some weird reason it's widely acceptable to be racist towarda the japanese.

              >its ok though when nips are racist to everyone else and spiteful as shit

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              How is it racist though? Are you fucking stupid?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No but you certainly seem to be.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My feelings are hurt! I should sue!

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              'racist' is a meaningless power-word. Stop using it unironically

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dogen is more proficient at nip than you

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              And?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're also just talking out of your ass as well.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Am I? Of course some people are patronizing, but that guy did push the whole jouzu is bad so far people just parrot it without even knowing what it's a about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                moron Dogen's videos are comedy skits, it's not his fault some 80 IQ subhuman thought jouzu meant the nips were making fun of you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >they never say what they actually think
            >he doesn't know about 本音 and 建前

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dougen is a narcissistic gay but he's right about that one.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              who

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                E-celeb who's very good at japanese and popularized the nihong jouzu meme.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He influenced Japanese people into using the term country wide? Danm he must be good. I don't watch ecelebs so I'm out of touch with the youngsters I guess.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No you dense fucking retard. He popularized the idea that the Japanese are only being polite and say nihgono jouzu to every idiot who comes along just because he can say こんにちは in a heavy accent, when they actually don't mean it.

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >常用さえ読めんな奴草

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guessing nobody is fluent here since it's impossible to stay in these threads without cringing to death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh shit he saw right through us oh no

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      be the change you want to see

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Play his games.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What did the english version do here?
    They ask you how the kanji for 島 island should be read for your particular island.

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do i cope with the fact that i have to remember 2 or more onyomi readings of a character on top of it's normal kunyomi usage?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly? Read more. You internalize it much faster than pounding out lists of readings on cards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't make a big deal out of it. Just read, listen and learn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the readings are just the way of the dictionaries order the words used by the kanji.
      you should learn 1 "important" word per reading, if the reading even has a important word, but this is only relevant for learning the kanji, you don't learn words from kanji (it's too inefficient to learn 4+ things from a card), you just learn the word and move on.
      Even kun/on doesn't matter, you would know if it's on- if it's a kanji pair, most of the time.

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have no clue who this eceleb is and for the record I don't give a shit. My point about 上手 has nothing to do with him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      天才だ(嘘)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well your point is dumb.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're really dumb then.

        Sure showed me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're really dumb then.

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    自殺されたし

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, white killing

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    自ら自殺した

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      まさか
      入水?!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      まさか
      入水?!

      自ら自殺
      みずから
      水から
      入水 = suicide by drowning

      Please understand my joke people

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bro, people here barely know english
        They can't understand your joke

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any other brainlets here that are learning the language? I'm 3 years in and while I can read everything I want I still have trouble remembering pronounciations and can't write for shit though I have barely tried writing so I don't care about being bad. I also hate listening practice so I can't comprehend audio that well either.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a brainlet. Ask me anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you also have anki vocab cards where it's just a question of time but you will certainly fail them eventually?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sure. For instance my first instinct is to always read 剽軽 as ひょうけい so if I'm not paying attention when that word pops I end up getting it wrong and that happens every once in a while as an inevitability. Also some words that are rendaku'd sometimes I remember them without it and vise versa and it's usually the same ones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      get a banjo kanojo

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      literally me

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Dragon Quest games are great for learning nip.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      which dragon quest games do you recommend starting which since there's a million of them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They are all child nihongo. If you're asking about the actual games then I like 7.

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >been a while since I've last tried playing anything in Japanese
    >have done a ton of vocab/grammar grinding since then
    >scared of going back to stuff I didn't understand back then out of fear of disappointment and getting discouraged all together

  87. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anything on PC Engine or Saturn, most of the stuff on PS1

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Should I play Nemuru Mayu next?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oreshika?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I played that a few years ago it has a surprisingly grim story with (actual spoiler revealed only at the end don't read if you care about it) the mother ancestor who was thought to be dead all along turned out to have been kept alive as a breeding machine as she is perpetually raped by the villain and forced to give birth to monstrosities which are the enemies you fight ingame.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I plan on playing it eventually I'm just intimidated by the 150 page instruction manual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is definitely a lot to the system but most of it you don't really need to know unless you're trying to minmax genetics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, play Kurumi Miracle.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Looks cool sounds a lot like Doki Doki Poyatchio

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's really charming and funny I'd post some screenshots but I lost all my files in a hard drive crash LOL.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I love graphics/artstyle like this.
                Added to the play list.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it seems really cool but the game is on a timer and I still read pretty slow so I had to drop it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kurumi Miracle has a similar style. I'd post better screenshots but I lost all my files in a hard drive crash LOL.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Looks cool. Added to the list.
                Saturn/ps1era is the golden age of japanese exclusive gorgeous looking sprite based games.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He brings it up first she's just calling him out

                use. filters.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i got that image online, dumbass
                and no. fuck off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >not browsing on a CRT

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i got that image online, dumbass
                and no. fuck off

                >not glueing scanlines directly onto your eyes
                ngmi

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How about a consumer CRT?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Please just tell me you named him that and that she’s not really calling him homo.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He brings it up first she's just calling him out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                こいつホモくせー

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What a strange game. I guess this must be what they call "Japanese humor."

  88. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >can understand the gist of most sentences when I read vns or vidya
    >struggle to understand random easy sentences with no context posted here
    Do I need to study grammar more or will I really get better by just reading things with context
    some things like よう seems to have completely different meaning based on context and how they're used I can't wrap my head around them on their own

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Show 5.3 examples.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Reading anything in a language you're not fluent in without context is harder, and Japanese is a very, very context heavy language.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically get the dictionaries of Japanese grammar and read a chapter every night before bed.

      >fully voiced
      >easy to read
      >not a VN
      Does such a game exist?

      Just go on animelon or something anon.

  89. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dark Souls, Resident Evil, Metal Wolf Chaos

  90. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fully voiced
    >easy to read
    >not a VN
    Does such a game exist?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't DQ11 fully voiced? I know it wasn't in the original jap release but later it did get Jap voices if I recall correctly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >fully voiced
        As in EVERYTHING is voiced? Fuck no.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're right but playing DQ makes me want to kill myself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well I don't know then. You're asking for something specifically easy (aka for children) as opposed to just normal nihongo so most games I think of that fit that description like say, pokemon, yokai watch are not fully voiced. DQ11 was the only one I could think of with potential full voices.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I know. My tastes are really specific. Guess I'll just bite the VN bullet then.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just checked ni no kuni it's not fully voiced. I give up dude good luck.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Persona 3 and up are VN's with gameplay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Persona stuff is not exactly on the easy side though, it's more on the just normal nihongo side. Not easy not hard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it's more on the just normal nihongo side
                That's exactly the kind of language that's great to learn though, day to day stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not what I'm discussing, it's just that the dude was specifically asking for easy stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Finished P4G when it came out on Steam, so I already know the story, playing in nip wouldn't be that bad of an idea. Ty.

                Shitty compile heart rpgs might come close. They at least have voice playback on some.

                I've played Nep 1 before, could replay it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shitty compile heart rpgs might come close. They at least have voice playback on some.

  91. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just skimmed the entire thread and not a single good japanese game

    unironically have a nice day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There were a few good ones posted/mentioned, you probably just have brain issues.

  92. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    please play rpg maker games.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rpg maker games
      Pretty much the only type of game that makes me want to throw up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        westoid-made rpgm games are garbage. all of the kino is made by suicidal japanese neets.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      List some actually good ones

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        right here, this is on freem

        RUINA廃都の物語
        It's even free.

  93. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with the japanese language is that there are too few sounds. To my gaijin mind it all starts blending together and sounds the same.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Like any language you'll get used to parsing it as you listen more. It just takes time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Like the other guy said
      Watch japanese tv or vtubers or something

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's where context comes in. Bridge and chopsticks might sound identical but context tells you they're probably not asking you to pass a bridge. Also there's inflection in the same way you differentiate perfect as an adjective or a verb.
      Tldr git gud

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just true. There are countless homophones and it is because Japanese words in general aren't as phonetically unique and recognizable as many other languages. Mainly because the kana are surch large building blocks that can't be broken down to more granular sounds like the latin alphabet. Your brain will get better at dealing with this over time but it remains a fact. Look at these sentences:

      あばら家だなんて。 - 6 out of 8 mora are straight out of the A-row and they're all in a chain
      未だ部屋が暖まらない。- 10 out of 12 mora are from the A-row, it's crazy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's also the reason why there is such a big difference in Japanese between written and spoken language styles, as the written words tend to be a lot less phonetically unique with tons of homophones. Stuff often becomes only reliably legible when you see it written on paper and can read the characters in grasp their meaning quickly. Spoken Japanese gravitates are lot more towards the at least somewhat more recognizable and also more commonly used words. And the percentage of truly original Japanese words increases with this. Less on-yomi compounds and more kun-yomi readinds.

  94. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Playing.hack GU in Japanese is cool because of the forum sections. Trading Japanese in casual forum speak is another level.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never played that but as someone who actually has played a MMO in the JP servers while actually interacting with them a lot I imagine it's more or less similar to the experience I had. Not specifically the forum sections but I mean more like how that game supposedly emulates a jap mmo experience. From what I hear anyway.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. The world feels pretty lived in. The desktop sections basically let you explore the world lore in the form of forum discussions and news articles. Pretty neat actually

  95. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how hard is the language in ff xiv? i could replay it in nihongo but i'm afraid it will be difficult

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What are some games you've played in Japanese?

  96. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    That's just true. There are countless homophones and it is because Japanese words in general aren't as phonetically unique and recognizable as many other languages. Mainly because the kana are surch large building blocks that can't be broken down to more granular sounds like the latin alphabet. Your brain will get better at dealing with this over time but it remains a fact. Look at these sentences:

    あばら家だなんて。 - 6 out of 8 mora are straight out of the A-row and they're all in a chain
    未だ部屋が暖まらない。- 10 out of 12 mora are from the A-row, it's crazy.

    what are you doing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      lol retard

      I'm fucking up, dude.

  97. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    lol retard

  98. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you're really really into japanese media or you want a job where you would benefit from knowing the language, there are much more useful languages you can learn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >there are much more useful languages you can learn.
      Such as?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        spanish indian or chinese cause they're gonna eat the planet in like 50 years lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can't eat the planet if your city of 10 million is locked down.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >indian

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >indian

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but let's not forget that suicide is an option here as well

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But I poop in the toilet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >muh utility argument
      Learn what you enjoy learning for your own edification. If you are trying to learn a language purely for a job, hope you think the struggle is worth it in the end.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >If you are trying to learn a language purely for a job, hope you think the struggle is worth it in the end.
        That is an excellent reason to learn Japanese though, especially if you're in the business world. It would open a lot of opportunities for you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I say again: if you are learning any language solely for a job, I hope you think the struggle is worth it. I think it's a shit reason myself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not learning a language for "usefulness".

  99. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >people who can't even pass N5 trying to give advice like they're fluent speakers
    lol will never stop being funny seeing the laughably bad advice they keep giving and watch dumbasses lap it up because they don't know any better

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so which advice is bad?

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