Terra Invicta

Patch is out!
How are you liking the game so far?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    7/10

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know its an excuse. But its EA so its going to get better byt yea I give it a 7 as well. The interconnected mechanics of the game is really nice, I do find the earth gameplay alittle repetitive but once the space gameplay opens up, there is much more to do. Overall, better than paracuck games. I love playing as the servants and preparing for the alien arrival to support them. It's like a whole different game when you play the extreme faction ideologies.

    I'm hoping they improve the UI because rn I have to fight with it to find stuff.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But its EA so its going to get better
      >
      >
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boy i just love spamming councillor actions

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Love it, just hope they allow for some more automation - both for endgame production that I wouldn't have to queue and councilor actions.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meh, 5/10 the space gameplay is great but earth is boring and repetitive.
    Some great ideas, terrible execution.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where can I find pirated gog version of the 3.18 patch?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Two 2/10 games out of 10.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I triggered a revolution in the US and noticed that the 'identity blocs' control point changed to a 'warlords' control point. Do any other countries have something like this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It probably depends on Democracy score.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Basado
      Basically saying that ethnic minorities will go full on Africa

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      After converting the US into a utopia (max democracy, min inequality, 11.1 education), it's sectors become "Knowledge Sector" "Bureaucracy" "Trade Unions" "Mass Media" "Legislature" and "Executive"

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was able to get America, but my economy and science is dropping steeply and I don't know what my next goals should be. Send help.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I figured it out. America by default has max Spoils. I've been burning my country the whole time and didn't even realize it.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game really frustrates me. There is a lot of potential, but it is just buried under the most frustrating mechanics imaginable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't seem any worse than Paradox games.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Paradox games don't have shit like waiting for lockdowns to end and then immediately the AI swoops in and relocks before you can even finish a crackdown. Meanwhile the same rules do not apply to your control points.
        There's no way to time shit. If you could do things like "begin crackdown on the 8th" or something, it'd be different, but you're either too early or too late over and over again. I have a moron sitting on a control point in Germany, and I can't bring Germany into the EU because of it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only way to deal with it is by hording orgs that give your council members bonuses to their stats. Basically just buy your way to 25 in stats. Weirdly enough the best thing to level is admin so you can just keep loading up on orgs. Admin also raises your cap.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I've noticed this too. It's another thing buried in the mechanics. At first I was like "admin can't be that important, can it?" Then I got admin capped locked, and I was like "yep, it's that important."
            And then you need a certain org to unlock a project research slot, but I CANNOT find out which orgs give you that slot so I just end up guessing.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Any org that gives an engineering project counts for that. I believe its the little +gear icon on the org.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you’ve got a decent part of the EU included already, why not just war them down?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's possible to get worse than Paradox games

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the differences between difficulty levels?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only differences I noticed on higher difficulties
      >higher diff gives a small penalty to most of your actions
      >aliens progress faster in their plans/invasion
      >aliens will become hostile towards human factions quicker, they have a lower "hate" threshold

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like it and it seems to filter a lot of anons. Looking forward to playing it for thousands of hours.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was really looking forward to it, but Jesus, so much of it just isn't explained. Maybe I'll give it another try when it's more mature or at least players pick up the slack by making a wiki that actually explains how the game works.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You could also not be an autist and just ask either us or the chudcord what you want to know.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Needs automation, a lot of it. Since it's a unity game, I think modders should be able to get on it, I just hope it gets the attention needed to get a good modding scene.
    I don't have hope on the devs fixing it after the discord situation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What discord situation?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The same as any other with EA games with discord servers, ass kissers, brown nosers, and rules that prevent complaints due to being too "hostile".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >espiocracy, a game I'm actually excited for, has a discord server
          Fug. DDDDDDD:

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's hilarious every game with a discord has rules that are more or less "ass kissing only, don't talk about improving the game".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The nebulous fleet command discord isn't like that yet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We desperately need an "Unification of Mankind" research that give claim on everything instead of forcing everyone to make "Great India" as the only option for whole planet domination.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a map painter. What we really need is the ability to establish nations on the Moon and Mars.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It should give us the choice to. Humanity is facing an extinction thread after all. We can have both.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe something like if you control all the sites on a planet you can turn the whole planet into its own nation. Of course it would only be a thing on significant bodies. Maybe also only ones that have some amount of all resources.
          >It's not a map painter.
          I don't really see why there shouldn't be some option to.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            IIRC they mentioned that being a thing on their "roadmap".
            The question is will the ethnicities and names of councillors spawned from a space-nation just be a mix of those from nations with space programs, biased by amount of boost produced?
            Will space just be filled with Russians, Chinese and Americans?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe something like if you control all the sites on a planet you can turn the whole planet into its own nation. Of course it would only be a thing on significant bodies. Maybe also only ones that have some amount of all resources.
              >It's not a map painter.
              I don't really see why there shouldn't be some option to.

              The devs have have a 'Future Foothold" scenario in the works. Set around 2070 where humanity has colonized the inner system.
              All we know is that the devs said this will require a new system of national ownership over orbital assets and how to integrate that into the game. As it stands, due to the invasion and timescale its assumed that the "official" owners of orbital assets are groups like NASA, ESA, ROSCOSMOS, CNSA or IRSO (or their national military equilivants or some pseudo stuff), however this won't work when there are pre-existing orbital assets.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't been following this game for months. I stopped playing around the time that one guy here released a patch to fix something with the missiles destroying the game.
    What's changed in the past several months since the dev build?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is affected by lack of resources on space station? I built one and I have no mines but it still gives me all science buffs

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is there a way to voluntarily give up CPs if i'm over the cap or do i have to wait for someone to purge me?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Abandon Nation"
      You don't lose the control point, but it doesn't cost you anything and it's easier for others to take. So there's a chance you could keep it without wasting your cap on it if you need to keep it for other purposes later. Though you also don't get any resources from it while it's abandoned.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thanks anon, don't know how i missed that

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I took over Syria and nuked Israel
    11/10

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is it possible that NONE of the organizations give you the purge mission. And the game doesn't tell you this. Am I going crazy? I've seen them give every other mission except purge.
    I have to coup every time I want to take back a control point since none of my councilors had it at the start and I thought I could get it later when I actually need it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bad RNG and the AI factions tend to be really good at snatching up orgs. I believe most "purge" orgs are criminal based one's as well.
      Best bet is to check other faction councillors (or aliens) and steal the orgs from them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hold on, so what does purging represent if it's mostly criminal orgs? I thought the devs said on
        >Discord
        that purge didn't represent murdering officials

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >steal
        when i get a fat enemy councilor i immediately detention lock him then have my other councilors shake him down

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's crackdown.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    so who's doing the abandon nation before capping the executive strat here to get other big countries besides your main?

    at one point before 2028 i got usa china india and japan doing this but my usa was full stacked my cps

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game is fucking SLOW.
    I guess I fucked up by caring about nation building on a faction that wants to escape earth but I really was not expecting it to be that slow.
    Fun game but i can easily see myself ruining a playthrough after 20 hours and never touching this game again

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    10/10 i launched a nuke at israel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >taking over Russia, USA, France, UK, China, India, Pakistan, Best Korea
      >dropping the entire arsenal of these countries on Israel

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Three Transitions Ahead on TI just dropped

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >willingly listening to trannies speak

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I still tune in out of some misplaced need for an old comfort food listening. Absolutely atrocious episode, just talked in circles/trailing sentences due to unironic estrogen brain.

        ????

        What did he mean by this?

        Three Moves Ahead is a long running strategy game podcast where most of the hosts/regular guests have all been transitioning to women over the last 2 year.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What did he mean by this?

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >He used max influence crackdown?
    >Activate ze defend interest a day before its completion

    I hate capping major nations I hate capping major nations

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want the news popups to be bigger and have a way to fitler the important ones for the no shit sherlock ones.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone nukes Israel?
    anti-Semitism is not a joke, let's keep chud humor confined in 4chan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Antisemitism isn't a joke, I agree, it's a serious political philosophy
      Reminder, if you're not gnomish and you simp for garden gnomes, you're fucking retarded. Their religion makes Nazism look somewhat sane when it comes to the race stuff.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      M.A.P (paedo) DETECTED!!!!!!!!!!!
      Reported: For being a pussy wipe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because nobody likes israel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does everyone nukes Israel?
      Because it's a game about saving humanity

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not even leftists like Israel, dingus.
      Imagine being a Neocon/neolib.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the only ones that worship garden gnomes are boomers
        nobody else is retarded enough for it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not nuking the aliens day 1

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't feel like a grand strategy game

    It feels like an overcomplicated board game

    There's a difference

    Y'know what I mean?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It feels like EU IV?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it feels that everything for the first few hours of a playthrough revolves around the agent assignment phases which makes this functionally play like a turn based game.

      It feels like EU IV?

      EU4 is way more reactive than this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      filtered
      i always wanted a game like this because my autism was never satisfied by oversimplified politics and diplomacy in pdx map simulators

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you think this in anyway a good or deep simulation you're retarded.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Name a game that has a deeper space industrialisation and political simulation.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Deep Rock Galactic, Shipbreaker, Kerbal Space Programme, EVE, Elite, Alien: Isolation, Startopia, Sins, Endless Space 2. Paradox's design template has never been deep or complex; it's literally just a spreadsheet hidden under RPG presentation, without the effort that used to go into RPG design. Things were moving towards actual simulation in the 90s and 00s, then games started getting shit again with more UI and a return to game systems design of three decades ago as if progress never happened.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >GDP is a magic number that governs every aspect of the economy
        >the politics boil down to spamming public opinion and control nation on every halfway relevant country
        wow so deep and non-simplified

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        at least you can admit that youre an autist
        baby steps, youll eventually build up the courage to tell everyone the meds you take

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This was made by the Long War devs, and guess what Firaxis games are known for now? Being overly complicated board games.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i spent my first 6 months taking over africa because it was a quick territory gap, how badly have i fucked this? is it possible to turn them around somehow?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you can spam enough stability missions maybe
      Check the tech tree to see what super nation's you can build. I think there's a bantu one or something

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Africa is a challenge playthrough.

      I shot myself in the foot by colonizing Mars fully while also spamming a bunch of LEO bases and now have -15 dollars per day. How do I fix this? What's the most efficient way to make money mid and late game?
      Can't diplomacy because everyone else hate me.

      The habitat modules that convert rare metals into money. What the others have said also work.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I shot myself in the foot by colonizing Mars fully while also spamming a bunch of LEO bases and now have -15 dollars per day. How do I fix this? What's the most efficient way to make money mid and late game?
    Can't diplomacy because everyone else hate me.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The most efficient way to make money is playing the game like v2.
      Take a bunch of african shitholes and exploit the shit out of them with only spoils on and abandon them so they don't take up control points. It's best done early on because the AI pretty much ignores them for the most part but it's quick money at any point. Also start investing in funding in your richest country. Even 5 points in adds up over time.

      i spent my first 6 months taking over africa because it was a quick territory gap, how badly have i fucked this? is it possible to turn them around somehow?

      6 months is a long time of not having a major powers resources or not working towards acquiring USA/China. You probably want to decide if you feel like you can fight over Canada and Mexico to eventually get into USA or if the AI is too entrenched. If you can get into them, USA is fairly easy to acquire, and they're both fairly solid nations on their own. China requires a long term concentrated investment which you probably can't afford right now.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does it cause my councillor to have a chance to kill itself per turn when I equip it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anybody willing to work for me must be suicidal.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are aliens in this game
      Fucking around with sex organs should be ezpz

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did not nuke Israel, but they did it to themselves in self defense.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > ITT: Wow I Love Adjusting Sliders And Pretending It’s Gameplay

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humanity First = The Servants > The Academy > Project Exodus > The Initiative > The Resistance >>>>>>>>> The Protectorate

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Humanity First = The Servants

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Correct
      Although project exodus is retarded. If humanity couldnt defend themselves from aliens on our home turf how will they be able to protect themselves as space refugees/gypsies?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They hopefully won’t have to as they’re no longer taking up a valuable planet or watery real estate. Unless the aliens have a real completionist streak to their genocide, they won’t send a ship after the exodus if it’s fast enough.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based, regardless of your feelings on ayys the resistance and the protectorate are objectively gay as fuck
      >KILL THE ALIEN BASTARDS
      vs
      >lets kill them...but in a nice way 🙂
      >WORSHIP THEM AS ALMIGHTY GODS AND ASCEND TO THEIR PANTHEON OF ANGELS
      vs
      >lets surrender...but in a dignified way

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        THEM AS ALMIGHTY GODS AND ASCEND TO THEIR PANTHEON OF ANGELS
        >vs
        >>lets surrender...but in a dignified way
        But anon, the protectorate surrender is anything but dignified, if anything the servants are the dignified ones out of the two

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Resistance and HF need a lore rewrite. Every playthrough as either of them makes me wonder why the fuck they aren't working together. There is intended to be a difference, but I'm not seeing it.

    It's as if XCOM kicked people out for hating aliens too much.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's intentional that the resistance are retarded.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't see them as retarded, I see them as generic. "Oh, those HF guys are so unprofessional" or something like that. It's dumb.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's not about professionalism
          HF's ultimate goal is to unite all of humanity under one banner powerful enough to destroy any and all ayys they encounter, the resistance just want to kill these specific ayys and then have the world go back to normal

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not quite. The resistance just want to make these ayys leave. They don't even want to really counterattack.
            HF wants to eradicate all non-Earth life. Resistance wants Sol to be left alone.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well they are the default Xcom style faction. Being generic is kind of the point. HF are supposed to be more of an "ends justify the means" faction that are willing to firebomb an entire city to kill one alien infiltrator or a handful of alien sympathizers. Problem is that a human player will end up playing both factions the exact same way since only a retard would let the nukes fly and tank the global GDP and population count when playing anti alien.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Problem is that a human player will end up playing both factions the exact same way since only a retard would let the nukes fly and tank the global GDP and population count when playing anti alien.
            Exactly.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think that's the major problem. There is no need to use nukes unless you have no army of your own. Unless you go full into roleplay mode, you're incentivized to use them.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nukes can be required if you shit the bed, fail to get the US, and the ayys drop a doomstack somewhere you can't afford to lose

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's retarded in that when faced with total annihilation or enslavement they let their fee fees interfere with success.

          How?
          [...]
          >I don't like the focus on agents/councilors
          I still think that idea of arbitrary numbers of "spies/diplomats/scientists/etc." instead of hero units would be much better for the game.

          The idea that someone would decide to join the anti-ayylmao faction but decide they want to hinder their chances of success by abiding by a moral code is comical. There's no way they're not intented to be retarded.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, the Protectorate has the best ending and they're the most retarded out of everyone.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the Protectorate has the best ending
              Really?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. They get what they want instead of the aliens just laughing at them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So what is their ending?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They reach a deal with the ayys and this somehow works.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They reach a deal with the ayys and this somehow works.
                If by somehow works you mean humanity gets turned into a slave species, then you are right. Even the servants are less retarded.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Protectorate has the best ending
              OK Xenoform Alfa-3.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >xenoform Alfa-3
                Tracked, easily
                He won't be posting no more

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >3k influence
                Bruh.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I honestly have no idea where to put it all, don't need it in most cases but in general I'm floating resources like crazy.

                >2031
                >all that shit
                Teach me your ways unless you cheater in which case fuck off

                There's a lot less to it like

                Perfectly doable without cheats if you cap the US and joina early

                said.
                That's my first serious run, did a couple of starts but stopped in the first yearas servants because I was clueless.

                Gameplan was basically:
                >take kazakhstan for early boost
                >take russian executive
                >disarm warheads and abandon
                >first to probe moon due to highest boost, love from kazakhstan
                >put outposts on all the water and high fissile to lockdown and cuck the ai
                >take canada and mexico
                >take usa
                >abandon canada and mexico
                >brute force into china
                Currently going for pan-asian combine followed by united north america

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot to mention that I had kazakhstan leave the eurasian federation to cuck to cuck whoever owns russia even more.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >2031
                >all that shit
                Teach me your ways unless you cheater in which case fuck off

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Perfectly doable without cheats if you cap the US and joina early

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but how the FUCK can you even begin to do that? What's the strategy?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Understand what stats are important for the early landgrab
                Understand that having CPs in neighboring countries give a bonus
                Start out by hoarding ops and influence, then spending it all on maximum investment on those first 10-15% attempts to grab the first CP. Once you get the first CP, it's easy going.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >dude just abandon all morality whenever things get difficult
            why even defend humanity if you're going to sacrifice what makes you human?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Spoken like a true resistancefag.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >what makes you human
              Oh, I'm sorry, does HF advocate turning into a machine or some alien human hybrid? Does it advocate throwing newborns into a blender for skincare products? What exactly is HF advocating that is so 'inhuman'?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because there will be nothing that makes you human if you fail.
              If you do everything you have to to succeed, you will have the entire future to recover what you may have lost.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, you'll increase the chances that you make it to the next time, but when that next time happens there will be the precedent that you committed genocide last time you faced a challenge.

                The ends the means justifiy will contain more means.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Self defense genocide is justified.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay. And?

                The next time HF meets an alien, they're gonna attack them on-site, whether they were evil or not.

                They're never going to stop fighting the rest of the universe.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This actually is one of the problems to consider. There's the people who just want to defend humanity and then there's the people who want to destroy everything that isn't humanity. There's no in between of people who want to destroy these aliens that attacked humanity but be okay with other aliens.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is mostly the result of how bad of a job the aliens did when they made first contact. Humanity drew the lines in the sand when all they had to go off of was one crashed ship. They could have been nice aliens and HF would have still formed because nobody knew better.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't see anything wrong with that. Unless there's some species of hot alien babes or something.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eventually there's going to be. With so many aliens it's pretty much inevitable that some hot ones will be found. But HF will just want to kill them anyways.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well then it's a two sided coin. Without humanity first, mankind would never dominate space enough to find the hot alien babes in the first place.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >implying there aren't already hot alien babes
                >not wanting a tentaclejob from a Hydra

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Have been too busy researching how to get to space to learn about the aliens, are we certain their reproductive cycle involves equal participation from two sexually dimorphic entities?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure.
                >Doc said they are born hermaphroditic and sexual differentiation only happens late in their life cycle, ca. 2 centuries in.
                >probably reproduce slowly
                >fuckers also have 3 heart/brain clusters
                >t. HF after our resident bugman took one out

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you choose to make every encounter into a life-or-extermination struggle, you're eventually going to lose one.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look up Dark Forest theory. Killing aliens (weaker than you) on sight (while hiding from stronger ones) is probably the right thing to do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dark forest theory is retarded.
                As soon as you shoot you make yourself known to everyone else. The entire forest would immediately erupt into one giant firefight, so to speak.
                Also, there is no "hiding," most especially not from stronger ones. All it takes is one telescope pointed at your system to find you, like a guy with night vision or infrared slowly scanning the forest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The dark forest analogy is not supposed to be taken literally.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I explained how it doesn't work even at a conceptual level, regardless of how literally you take the analogy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look up Dark Forest theory. Killing aliens (weaker than you) on sight (while hiding from stronger ones) is probably the right thing to do.

                Dark Forest is even worse when you realize how exoplanets are found in the first place. Alien civilizations can detect the oxygen in our atmosphere VERY easily. According to the Dark Forest theory, we should be dead right now. Aliens would fire on any planet with an atmosphere that is obviously biologically influenced. But nope, here we are.

                Really it is just some Chink author who, like all PRC bugmen, thinks that the world is so mean and hostile and that they should just stay in their Middle Kingdom where it is safe and their government will take care of them forever. Don't go out into the world, mean western barbarians live there. That's the true Dark Forest analogy. The usual Asian "nail that sticks out gets hammered down" crab in a bucket mentality. It is EXTREMELY unlikely any alien thinks like this, more likely they will discover our planet and say "cool", then move on with their lives.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                We are also using human minds to consider inhuman scenarios. When humans think of aliens they usually just reflect their own way of thinking. From people who care too much about animals who think aliens would put us in a reserve or something to people who are misanthropic and think aliens will genocide us.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're right, but it also is a stupid answer to the Great Filter. "Why haven't we found aliens yet?" "BECAUSE ANY ALIEN RACE THAT IS DETECTED IS INSTANTLY KILLED!"
                It's the rantings of a crazy person, because the next question - "why would they be instantly killed?" - is never really answered. The universe has an obscene amount of resources available, the likes of which we'd can never dream, and yet aliens waste large amounts of time and effort building fantastic doomsday weapons to prevent other races from MAYBE taking those resources. There is no resource scarcity in space. Just go somewhere else. We don't see stars dimming from aliens sucking them dry, or see any megastructures. We see nothing. That's the actual Great Filter problem, and then some stupid chink comes along with a stupid answer and everyone acts like it is the best science fiction ever written.

                I mean holy shit, the novel has a fucking Sword Arts Online subplot.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What if we don't see any evidence of aliens exploiting the environment because we are the first sapient species in the local group?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The theory is called firstborn, and there is an additional theory called grabby aliens that exists to support it by stating that if we had advanced neighbors they would have colonized our system before humanity evolved.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the theory is perfectly logical tho if you are the german

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This bro out there being sad about the possibility of space hippies being exterminated.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do HF actually want to completely exterminate all alien life or just the ones that pose a threat to humans?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay. And?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there will be the precedent that you committed genocide last time you faced a challenge
                Worked pretty well for the people before us, and the enemies of the people before us weren't literally invading aliens and their brainwashed worshippers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If our ancestors were content with genocide, they sure fucked a lot of neanderthals.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Genocide is the most human of activities.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like humans are some of the least violent animals.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's literally solely because we artificially force ourselves to be less violent for the sake of things like society and our nation states. Humans basically got all the worst shit from bonobos, chimps, and gorillas. Humans are naturally hyperviolent. This is easiest to see in tribal peoples who have frequent wars that kill >1/3rd of their populations and who completely genocide one another in said wars.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >artificial - made or produced by human beings>
                >That's literally solely because we [made or produced by human beings] force ourselves to be less violent for the sake of things like society and our nation states
                Sounds like we are living the peak human life these days.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tribal wars are generally performative and more focused on stealing resources (women are a resource) and building status within the tribe. Deaths are uncommon, with only a handful of tribal members dying in battle. This has been documented in the modern era by studying war practices with neolithic groups in Papa New Guinea and various other islands in the Pacific. In fact, pre-early modern armies generally only suffered large losses on the battlefield when combat ended in a mass rout. More soldiers died of camp illnesses than anything else.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Humanity is the only species that can afford to kill itself as frequently as we once did, once we decide to stop destroying ourselves, we learned to cooperate and direct our actions with some level of cohesion. Humans either evolved or learned how to become less violent, because it granted us an advantage.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Humanity is the only species that can afford to kill itself as frequently as we once did
                What are ants. Wasps. The vast array of cannibalistic fish and insect species.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eusocial insects treat their drones as disposable and allow them to be destroyed by the environment, but that isn't the same thing as the colony fighting itself. Different species of ants kill each other, but they are different species.

                Most species engage in cannibalism when resource scarcity poses an existential threat to the population, but those are atypical circumstances. Cannabalism isn't sustainable on a genetic level.

                Humans would actively try to kill each other even when they aren't starving. We still do sometimes. But it seems to have been getting more rare as our population increased.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Colonies fight other colonies, you dolt.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yet black people, the direct descendants of Homo Sapiens, remain violent as ever

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >humanity isn't worth defending without western liberal moral values
              >this is what the resistance actually believes
              Resistance are bigger garden gnomes than the Initiative

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >why even defend humanity
              because I don't want to be fucking dead along with everyone and everything I ever knew? retard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How?

        I like the idea of a pre-unified planet with factions vying for control while approaching a true space age
        I don't like the focus on agents/councilors
        not buying it/10

        >I don't like the focus on agents/councilors
        I still think that idea of arbitrary numbers of "spies/diplomats/scientists/etc." instead of hero units would be much better for the game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      HF would form authoritarian continent-spanning super states and use nukes against aliens and alien sympathizers, anything to kill the xenos. Your average resistance members are normies and would probably be put off by things like that, so they do their own thing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The difference between them is that one is frothing at the mouth and the other just wants the ayys to get off their lawn
      HF sanctions gangs of thugs and vigilantes hunting suspected ayy sympathizers in the street without any oversight

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The funny thing is the extreme options in events unlocked by being HF often have net positives compared to the options the resistance has lmfao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Turns out that ignoring basic human rights is economically efficient

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not even that, getting free +1 cohesion because the ayys did a thing and you bombed them for a minor GDP and population hit that'll be fixed by a single point in the economy priority and a month of population growth is much better than having to roll the dice on whether or not the ayys succeed in getting more abductions.
            Also dragging corrupt generals through the street and lynching them is unfathomably based, I had that event fire on Russia

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are human rights really basic or are they all forced?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes. Human rights are a spook.
              Those who want to kill and torture will do it under the guise of goodwill and ironically "safeguarding human rights".
              Others will be implicated in "human rights violations" whether they did anything or not.
              Busted spook, just like the term "democracy".
              On one end, "democracy" means “universal suffrage rights” and on the other end it means “gay sex lessons for kids.” This is always getting mixed up, so you get situations where the media and government claim that democracy is about “maximizing voting rights” and then turn around and claim people are “voting against democracy" by voting for milquetoast political parties.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Servants are simply the best faction. When I told the e-cleb Rimmy that, he threatened to ban me from his stream .

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hmm. Yes. Very informative. That tip will significantly affect how I make my ingame decisions. Good job.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you realize you are playing an early access game right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How am I supposed submit bug reports? I presume that's how this works. If so, got any suggestions on what the UI tip for spoils should be? What cues the warning? When spoils are too low?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          discord, I presume? idk, don't be a baby, do some searching on your own

          The tooltip was there in the beta so it looks like a code issue that just removed it by mistake.

          As for the mechanic, the less democracy there is in a nation, the higher percentage you need to assign to spoils, otherwise it's easier to coup the nation

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Democracy, huh? Thanks. I don't know what too little spoils does, but I presume it's bad.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's what anon just said, it just makes it somewhat easier for enemy factions to run coups.
              It doesn't really matter in the end, and I avoid the spoils priority out of principle because it basically nation-ruins and eventually world-ruins you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                One of these days I'd like to see what happens when you go full spoils in the interest of planetary defense and end up collapsing the global ecosystem and killing billions, a la The Three Body Problem series.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pretty sure billions won't die because the game literally cannot simulate mass deaths without the use of nukes as of yet.
                Africans will keep breeding to a ridiculous degree even if every country there has basically the lowest GDP possible, because, again, the game doesn't simulate what'd happen to Africa if all foreign trade simply stopped because the global economy has collapsed.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I say without the use of nukes because the global crop failures event that kills 25% of the global population hinges on nuclear winter aka global temperature anomaly in the minuses

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I figure if the global atmosphere becomes 100% carbon people would start dying.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think achieving 10000000 PPM CO2 is feasible, fren.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the idea of a pre-unified planet with factions vying for control while approaching a true space age
    I don't like the focus on agents/councilors
    not buying it/10

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was thinking Humanity First was that they were gathering entirety of humanity together against any foreign threats while the resistance people were more of a collective alliance that didnt want to radically change how earth operated once the threat was dealt with

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like this game would make a good foundation for a The Expanse mod.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you get intel on the other factions?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Turn an enemy councilor.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this game was probably made or sponsored by glowes haha why do i feel it attracts a certain demo

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    can i get a qrd on direct investment? feels like the most obtuse part of the game so far

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >coming back to the thread for the first time today
    The fuck happened here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's something about TI that attracts the worst mouthbreathers

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been reading Posadas.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Played a bit.
    Occupied eastern european minors.
    I think it was a poor choice; they don't produce much boost and pretty borders aren't as important for secret societies as they are when you're playing a country. I assume now you're just supposed to go for high-value territories regardless of contiguity.

    Wasn't able to make serbia join the EU? Was there some way to go about it? I could do the 'propose local political action' but then I couldn't select any options when that completed.

    Is low earth orbit worth bothering with or should I aim to skip past it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you open the tech tree and then the full tech tree you can see how to access some of the deeper nation changes.
      It seems like they mostly aren't worth it though unless you're trying to break up a country another faction has a stranglehold on.
      I tried doing the commonwealth one and it's way to much investment when you could be building space shit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Techlocked? Okay I didn't even look at the tech tree, just what was immediately available. Thank you anon-kun.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is low earth orbit worth bothering with or should I aim to skip past it?

      I'd say skip past it for two reasons. You'd want to establish a foothold in space and reduce as much as possible every boost-related costs. Yes, you'll need an orbital assembly line for that, but first and foremost you'll need a mining operation going. Said operation is VERY costly to put in place: I remember paying 41 boost to send a mining facility on Luna, but being able to produce water, fuel and metals in space gave me a 80% reduction in boost-related costs thanks to the reduced gravity well.
      You won't be able to mine anything if you're setting up an orbital station, so you'll incur a boost penalty to keep your station alive and with no benefit whatsoever.
      Build a mining facility on Luna, then expand your mining operations in order to get all the 5 space-related resources, then consider building a supply depot/factory station, but not before that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      On relations tab hover over a flag and it'll tell you why you can't do something.
      You want a station in leo because of research bonuses. Whether it's worth getting before mars is up to you.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What tech do I need to unlock Covert Operations?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tech tree

      Why is there an autistic argument going on in here?

      that cat is based wtf

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is there an autistic argument going on in here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute cat.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to FUCK an alien

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mediocre UI feels clunky and lag makes the 999x councilor actions super annoying. Why is it real time when it's basically turn based?
    Lots of potential though. Remove turn based garbage, allow for councilor automation and get rid of the councilor gameplay cycle as the game becomes space oriented.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >game's climate change system is supposedly based on climate alarmism
    >doesn't even feature rampant desertification that results in the world eventually looking like the cursed Earth from Hardspace Shipbreaker
    I guess that'd mean having to have more than three (three) Earth textures in total.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't even understand what climate change does in the game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In the intel tab you can see how the climate affects the earth. The most important is the impact on GDP. Basically temp foes up, droughts and bad weather become worse, economy starts to get worse. Some regions are more affected by this then others. If you click on a region and mouse over the really tiny icons next to the region name you can see the modifiers for that region. I believe climate change also causes negative evens like forest fires and hurricanes to occur more often but I'm not 100% on that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Holy shit there is so much hidden in this game.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I recommend just sitting with the game paused and going through every menu and sub menu and just mousing over every icon and button you can see. There is info and tool tips hidden everywhere.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOO NOT DISNEY WORLD, FLORIDA!!!!!!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      once again, trannies and their worshippers can never do anything right

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How are you liking the game so far?
    I'm not

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >game just switches to an alternate earth texture once a milestone is hit
    >nothing about what the consequences of the Benelux, North Germany, Flahdah and Louisiana fucking DROWNING

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have no idea what the fuck im even doing in this game, playing as humanity first cause im not a socialist, all im doing is getting kazakhstan, both koreas and isreal then seemingly fuck all for ages.

    I have 1 of 4 points in russia but i cant do anything about the other 3 owned by a different faction because theres 0% chance of even doing crackdown, purge, unrest

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to MOOV DA NEEDUL, AKA run public campaign missions
      Then you might have a chance in hell to purge control points

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ye aand how much more of that do i need to do, ive taken russia from 1% support to 25% and its made no difference, i dont want to sit here for an hour just telling my cunts to do that till im at like 75% support

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can tell them to permanently do a mission and they won't pop up again until you tell them to do something else.
          I would either restart and get a major power early or just go to work screwing over other factions while you wait for your popularity to increase.
          I think you need to be purging and then abandoning constantly just to fuck them over or doing assassination/hostile takeovers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          get more orgs. pick up all admin orgs so you can stack even more orgs in one councilor. specialize and level them up

          go run successful ops to gain xp. over cap? just abandon the worst nations cp based on gdp

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand. I thought Mission Control prevented this. Is it because I have a boost deficit?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your people are thirsty.
      The racists offered them a sip.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >racists
        You mean speciesists.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Very mixed feelings about the ingame writing quality: new tech popups are almost all horrendous, while some of the faction storylines are very well executed.

    The Servants' storyline actually makes sense while leaving behind a small bit of mystery, self-doubt and nuance. This is the sign of a well written game, when nobody is comedic evil just for the sake of it.

    It's definitely not SMAC but it's a breathe of fresh air to see that different factions actually have a different perception of humans vs ayys events (at least from what I've seen from HF, resistance and servants).

    It's nowhere near a masterpiece but with some more work, patches and expansions it could turn into a solid game for genre autists.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whats the end game of the faction that just wants to fuck off and peace out from earth? what do they even do afterwards?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chill on their interstellar generation ship while the Earthers kill each other over whether or not they like the aliens, or if they like money.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that sounds depressing though

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're just ignoring their problems and becoming a space-faring civilization, but they'll run the next time they meet aliens too.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >88% chance to capture an alien turns into 0%
    >Check capture next turn
    >It's still 88%
    >Try again
    >Watch it go from 88% to 0% soon after I unpause
    Sure would be cool if I could see why.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is the alien moving to a more secure region?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If that was it wouldn't the chance update immediately rather than a few days later? 88% to 0% is also massive and way too big for it to be that, even a massive nation only gives a +6 to requirements so with +8 from ops if you had even 1% before you'd have above 0%.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a bug already in the leak. The game is full of them.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just saw a mothership for the first time.
    Pick me up mom, I'm scared.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How can I tell if two nations can be federated or not?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the nations information screen, click on relations. From there you can see all the wars/allies/rivals and hover over them to see everything you can or can't do and why.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Great! Now I just need to figure out what tech gives Canada, Mexico, and the USA claims on one another.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That'd be the great nations research. But it's two heavy projects afterwards. It's a huge investment to unify America.

          i need a guide on the priorities its too confusing i seems to be ruining any nation i take over

          The guide is basically just max economy, then it depends on how developed the nation is. If they have above 10 investment points you can put a few in welfare and knowledge. around 15 or 20 you're more free in what you want to do.

          • 2 months ago
            Overrated games thread

            okay thanks, how important is corruption (spoils). Is this an option that i would want to max if i didnt care about the country and just wanted to exploit the money out of it and thats it?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's the colonialism priority, yeah.
              It does make the country easier to coup if you don't satisfy the elites, but they demand so much investment between the spoils demand and the welfare/knowledge to counter the losses that you're shooting yourself in the face to save your foot.

  60. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    is this the realest political videogame or nah?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >missions granted
      OY VEY THE SERVANTS KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN

    • 2 months ago
      Overrated games thread

      >azeri mafia
      are they really 'that' big tho? i think there are other, more prominent russian mafia orgs up there

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's why they're a one star
        there's plenty other mafias from Russia

  61. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    its so easy to fuck up your first playthrough without knowing in this game, in so many ways. I can definitely see people dropping it early not understanding whats going on and why

  62. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    i need a guide on the priorities its too confusing i seems to be ruining any nation i take over

  63. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    >took control of israel
    >declared a war on syria
    >got nuked by russia
    as if they dont have more pressing matters at the moment
    this would never happen in real life

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is turn the hostile agent mechanic supposed to be this broken or just part of the game?
    >turns hostile agent
    >trade deals now really favourable and see all of that faction's agent's orgs
    >sell unused 3 star org in exchange for tonnes of resources
    >AI agrees
    >hostile takeover the org again
    >repeat
    thanks for financing my space exploration academy

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >played the leak for an easy 40+ hours
    >already approaching 30 hours in release
    Okay I am fucking sick to death of the geoscape music. What's some tracks to be a globohomo glowie to

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cant beat the classics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT-qjyJKtzU

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hit 2031
    >game randomly pauses without any popups
    Okay this is fucking obnoxious. Has anyone else experienced this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, I did. Restarting the game fixed it for me

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy fuck this game is awesome but HOLY FUCK do they need to do something to improve the overall game flow.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The tech tree confuses me. Some of its research nodes take forever and provide only minute improvements for high investment costs.
    Starting engines and their variants don't have enough deltaV to allow even the lightest to ships to Hohmann transfer themselves from Luna to Earth, so they're functionally useless. Right now I have 7 different engine designs and only a single one allows me to realize a one-trip expedition from Luna to Earth IF I don't put armour on it.
    Even if I now have 7 engines I'm still stuck with the starting 10 inch cannon and haven't unlocked more even after making them my priority as well as taking the lead in terms of technology.
    What the fuck am I missing? Why would 80% of the tech tree be useless? Why would I spend 6 months researching a 10% increase in boost-related IP investment when I'm past the point of needing extra boost since I have 4 different mining spots in space?

    The game itself have good premises but there's so much dubious design choices. I hope EA would fix this. Extra mention to the surveil region mission, which resolves immediately and stops, therefore not revealing what's going on after it resolves and leave you with an agent doing nothing for two weeks. What the fuck.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The devs are autistic and research is massively inflated
      Terrainvicta_Data > StreamingAssets > Templates
      Open TIGlobalConfig, ctrl-F 'debu', change to true
      In-game, open the console
      addresource Research,10000,xCouncil
      Change the x with whatever faction you are, such as Destroy,Resist, etc. Now you can actually see progress.

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I find abductions? I keep surveilling the shit out of areas in and around alien crash sites but I never find shit and I feel like I'm wasting my councilor's actions. What am I missing?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If its still the first year they haven't started yet. Also to save your councilor's time you can put a space station in LEO that has Xeno Lab sections in it. Each Xeno Lab you have in LEO increases the amount of alien activity you passively spot. With one station with two Xeno Labs I was able to start spotting Alien agents around the world once I had the tech to do so. Also good to have these early since you need to do a handful of Xenobiology techs in the early game.

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >faction is tolerant of you and at war with other factions
    >they sabotage your technological progress anyway

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you sign a NAP with them using the trade screen

  71. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    that influence country policy action really need some work. I keep wasting agents actions thinking it would do something.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hover over the icon to the right of overview in the nation window. It's very important and completely unexplained.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Put your mouse over this icon. This will show you every political action that country can take and what cool downs it has.
      Would it make more sense to just have all that info in the relations tab? Yes.
      Is that what they did? No.
      The UI needs some work.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jfc all this time it was hidden right there?! Thank you that was driving me nuts too

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you distirbute the pips you get with the control of a region, is extracting all the resources you can from African nations without actually caring to make them stable a viable move

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Project Exodus kindly donated this base to the cause of The Resistance. It theoretically has an output greater than all my other bases, but none of it is accessible. Do I need to build a module in orbit in order to get its products to the rest of my solar economy?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't find anything that will explain why some outposts can export resources and others cannot. Maybe it's a bug.

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you build larger satellites/moon bases? Everything is hidden in the fucking tech tree.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mission to the Moon and Mission to Mars > Ad Astra > Orbitals (for tier 2 space habs) and Settlement Habs (for tier 2 planetary habs)

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I unify, is the partial development of the smaller nation lost?
    Like if they have 90% of a mission control build does the daddy get that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MC's, Boost, Science, funding, and GDP get added together. Unity drops a little bit and unrest slightly goes up. Everything else gets averaged. And yes, that does mean if you fuse the Korea's together, every South Korean weapons engineer forgets the entire last 80 years of military tech as the game will average out the mill tech of both countries. This might get changed as everyone thinks this is stupid. So make sure your main military country doesn't unify with too many low mill tech countries or you'll fuck yourself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it would make sense if stuff like miltech dropped after unification (to represent merging of the different militaries), but then quickly trended back towards the highest-pre unification score.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, in fact this should be done in general. You have a min value that you could hit due to unification or suffering a Ukraine-tier defeat; but eventually it'll go back up to the max value.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it would make sense if stuff like miltech dropped after unification (to represent merging of the different militaries), but then quickly trended back towards the highest-pre unification score.

        What they should do is make it have the higher miltech but have a modifier that gets added to the nation for a time that decreases the value of points put towards building armies such that you won't be able to invest more IP than you could as the higher miltech nation before the merger. Obviously North Korean factories wouldn't be able to build South Korean weapons until undergoing quite a bit of refitting and upgrading, but it's not as though they would drag down South Korean factories and make them unable to produce the weapons they were already producing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MC's, Boost, Science, funding, and GDP get added together. Unity drops a little bit and unrest slightly goes up. Everything else gets averaged. And yes, that does mean if you fuse the Korea's together, every South Korean weapons engineer forgets the entire last 80 years of military tech as the game will average out the mill tech of both countries. This might get changed as everyone thinks this is stupid. So make sure your main military country doesn't unify with too many low mill tech countries or you'll fuck yourself.

      Interesting and thanks, but it was a slightly different question.
      I tested it and it seems like you lose half of the junior partner's progress.
      Like:
      Mission Control:
      Russian: 24.3 of 25
      Kazakhstan: 23.5 of 25
      Unified: 36 of 25 = 24.3 + half of 23.5
      Boost:
      Russia: 0.7 of 2
      Kazakhstan: 1.8 of 2
      Unified: 1.6 of 2 = 0.7 + half of 1.8
      Might be worth waiting a couple of months if you're close.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck do I claim America? I've been fighting over it for the past 6 months with the resistance and exodus, and I just can't push them. The points are constantly defended and I have only have 1 turn once they expire to try to push them. The problem is however, each operation I try to perform has a sub 10% success chance, making it near impossible to accomplish anything. Right now my chance of performing a crackdown is 4%, fully invested mind you. What do I even do here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't let anyone else get in to begin with.

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >When you finally get a heavily militarized station out as a humanity first that has earth under lock and key
    >It kills the first alien ship
    They tried to clip my wings, but they missed a feather.
    The stars are mine now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What type and quantity of armaments do you need to win against the xenos?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is the station that humbled the ayys and is now mass producing battleships. It has 681 military power and has a 165 power battleship docked at it now with 5 more on the way.
        About 13 or so stations like this had to die before I finally managed to sneak one out that survived long enough to be built.

        How do I build space shit on Earth?

        I don't think you can. That was a major setback in my campaign because I went extremely hard on mars colonizing and stopping any and all alien activity or supporters on earth so the ayys got super pissed and purged me from the stars.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >About 13 or so stations like this had to die before I finally managed to sneak one out that survived long enough to be built.
          Holy shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, what? Why does it give you different construction costs for "on earth" and "in space"?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When you start mining space resources you switch over to using those instead of boost to build things. This represents you not needing to launch shit into space to build with anymore. The biggest hurdle to doing anything in space is dealing with Earth's gravity.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            like

            When you start mining space resources you switch over to using those instead of boost to build things. This represents you not needing to launch shit into space to build with anymore. The biggest hurdle to doing anything in space is dealing with Earth's gravity.

            said, once you get a base up and running you can start using on-site building and it's extremely important. Getting a mars base up and running makes further mars bases go from 400+ days and ~200 boost to 30 days and about 1% of a months worth of mining.

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I build space shit on Earth?

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, that's quite a few sig figs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2030
      >That low science
      >Decent space resources and boost
      Let me guess, Russia start?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, America. Is that low science? I guess I better start shifting my priorities. I'm kind of kicking myself for not keeping the Korean peninsula. South Korea had good science.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You need orgs. Here's my current Resistance America in 2027 at 48 science per day with just North America under my control. Ignore the downward trends, my Scientist took a turn from advising to go to ground. I'm honestly behind by a year with getting my Mars mines up and I have an alien agent just constantly trying to flip Canada to the Protectorate and the game hasn't been giving me good ESP orgs for my assassination councilor to deal with it. I also really need to take over Russia from protectorate as well and just remove nukes as an issue finally.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And just as I posted that MY guy finally dumpstered the xeno.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I need to check my objectives. I have yet to kill any.

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is the organization pool that I can buy random? Does it shuffle around or am I missing something

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's random, but it also updates periodically.

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, for the entire time I was playing the leaked beta, there was no point in ever investing in Economy, Welfare, Unity, or indeed any of the "long term nation stability and growth" sectors. Not because the game didn't last long enough to bite you in the ass, but rather because having slightly more boost / mission control / research was ALWAYS a much better idea than having slightly more cohesion / democracy / income.
    Has this changed in the EA build or is long-term-ism still a false economy?

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PROTIP: Ctrl+click to change an entire row of a country's spending priorities at the same time.
    This PROTIP was brought to you by the beer I spilled on my keyboard on Thursday.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you, Beer of Knowledge. Your sacrifice against the ayys will not be forgotten.

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this game worth it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not yet. Wait until it gets out of early access, probably even until a few updates after that, and when there's some mods.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pirate if it's cracked and find out for yourself. I think it's worth it.

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do I need to build a space mine? Should the technology 'space mining' have unlocked it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      An engineering project (the 3 boxes below the shared research projects) will show up a few weeks after.

  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does Auto-Design do a decent job at designing ships?

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >just a few decades
    >humanity has colonized the entire solar system
    >humanity has controlled fusion powered propulsion
    This seems a tad optimistic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arent you just getting it pretty much handed over by the alien ship that crashes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The game makes a reasonable case that war is the mother of invention and that seeing ayys start to grab the solar system's resources is a great motivator to start snapping them up yourself

      Arent you just getting it pretty much handed over by the alien ship that crashes

      Actually no, the popups take pains to note that there is basically no recoverable technologies from the crash (the implication being that the aliens make their drop pods like that by design)

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this game worth it for someone who liked XCOM but never played long war and never played a grand strategy?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As a pea-brain who had to struggle to learn to play EU4, you have to focus pretty hard on learning this game. There is a lot to learn. That said, you can't really fail catastrophically. It's somewhat forgiving at lower difficulties.

      That's about all the meaningful input I can provide. I bought it because I found the theme enticing and the realism charming.

  88. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which tech allows me to build bigger stations? The AI has been able to do it fore years and yet I still can't seem to find any spaceflight tech that mentions it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't remember which one it is specifically but I know it's a Life Sciences one, so focus on those and you'll get it

  89. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Englishman. There is no need to duck anymore when you hear someone starting their car. It won't make a different.

  90. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    should I just max economy in my countries or set each country as focusing on a specific priority category?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on the country, your needs, and your long-term goals with that country.
      Generally speaking:
      Places like America and Europe (large and already developed places) you want to focus on science output. This means knowledge to make them more advanced, welfare to lower inequality to make them more stable, some economy to keep them slowly growing. Though America is sort of its own case because of its military. You'll want to put points into increasing its military tech level as well.
      With developed but small nations you want to focus on things like boost and mission control. That's because those are static
      Underdeveloped but large nations you want to focus a lot into economy. People don't like being poor or unequal, and in more democratic states they have more ability to influence it and cause trouble if they're unhappy. That's why in places like China and India you want to massively pump their economies first, along with reducing inequality at the same time. Once the economy has grown sizably you can then spread out into spending lots on increasing science output (because you've basically transformed them into the first situation).
      Small and underdeveloped nations you want to use for spoils. This means targeting places with resource regions especially. Try to keep them stable with some into unity and maybe a bit into economy and welfare just so that they don't implode, but otherwise you only want them for spoils. You don't need to worry much about the long term with these. Either you only care about them for this purpose or you plan on making larger nations of them later. In the latter case it'll be much easier to build them up from their larger population then than it will be to build up (and keep control of) tons of tiny nations and make them good before merging. Plus it's very very easy to unify states when you have a big, strong ally (see: America). Do note though that the country needs an army of its own. It can't have an ally do all the work.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the in depth reply. I'm on my first game in about mid 2023 and fully control Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia and half of Indonesia's CPs. In this case should I focus Japan and Australia on science, NZ on boost, grow Indonesia's economy and exploit Malaysia?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sure. That sounds good.
          You're in a good position to set up for a super union into the mid game. You can go Greater Austronesia to unite all of that, then get the Southeast Asian Defense League to have everything south of China and Japan united, then go for Pan-Asian Combine to have all of eastern Asia united.
          Not necessarily something you should do (or rather not necessarily something you should focus on), but the start you chose does lean in that direction.

  91. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what the FUCK is their problem

  92. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >investing in economy
    >everything is green except per capita GDP
    What the fuck am I doing wrong? Why are my people getting poorer?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think that is because the measurement metric measures the last 30 day period. So wait a month or so and it should show green

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's been months.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nukes and Glowbull Warming™ fuck up every country - some more than others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's been months.

      Do you have some guy advising the nation? At the end of the turn his bonus stops applying, so it calculates without him which, compared to when it did have him (i.e. the past two weeks), is lower. So even though it keeps growing it always shows as red. Try pausing right before the turn ends.

  93. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how Kazakhstan (Baikonur) has 30 boost and can be controlled easily on the first turn

  94. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    France got turned into the European Union, and i'm trying to use it to eat the other members. How do?
    Every time I set national policy it pops up the menu but I can't choose 'federate' or 'unify'.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it the 'cede region' option?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you need to control the executive point in both the federation leader and the country you want to unify with for at least 6 months for the option to become available.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I controlled everything but Frances trade unions point. Still couldn't do anything. Wondering if I needed 100% of both or some techs

  95. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder how difficult challenge runs where you ignore space or Earth as much as possible would be. For ignoring space that would mean not doing anything in space until having united Earth as much as possible (or maybe even researching all techs as well) and for ignoring Earth that would mean getting self-sufficiency in space as quickly as possible and then abandoning all your control points. They both sound pretty infeasible, but it's still interesting to think about.

  96. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    r8 my Mothership-busting suicide escorts
    >Orion drive because it's the only drive reasonably effective before advanced fusion engine, and I got insanely lucky with multiple fissile deposits so I've got fissiles to burn
    >80 fucking nose armor
    >2.4g combat burn ensures they can close the distance before the mothership has time to destroy an attack formation
    >non-nuclear torpedoes to avoid loose nukes from the event
    Designed to sit on standby on Luna under the umbrella of my battlestation, then intercept Motherships attempting to land troops on Earth and destroy them in a single close-range volley

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are doing much better than me.

      It would have been nice to known how to manage a country before adopting one that was set to full Spoils.

  97. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >play as initiative
    >my only options is retarded poor nations like afganistan
    >other faction cap EU countries from turn1
    Wtl lmao.
    Should i spent billion turns to improve poparity in usa?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can grab USA pretty quickly, just cap Canada & Mexico, spam public campaign for a few turns in US and you should have a decent chance to cap it before the 10th turn. Once you have one CP the rest become much easier

  98. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone figured out how to build navies? So far the only nation my faction controls that can build navies for new armies is the USA. Other nations build armies but no build navy category appears in the priorities tab once an army is built. This is also true for nations that are allied with the USA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the 21st century only Americans know how to build ships.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        figures

  99. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is the game? I've been thinking about getting it, but the reviews i've seen on youtube don't really show off the game that well.
    I like civilization and enjoyed Stellaris, is thos something for me then?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's okay. You'll probably want to wait until it's more developed and polished though.
      The only thing on youtube I've watched of it is Perun's series. I think that's pretty good if you want to learn the game and get a good feel for it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The game is a brick wall until you memorize the tech tree and nation building strategies. And even then, the early game is not good. But like the other anon said, watch Perun. There is really almost zero information on how to play the game online outside of the let's plays.

      Just to give you a picture on the current state of information out there: the game has an official wiki, but it is currently down right now. And when the wiki was up, it was pretty bare bones. So good luck trying to learn how to play, you'll just be told some variation of 'git gud'.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There is really almost zero information on how to play the game online outside of the let's plays.
        I swear there's less information on it now than there was two or three months ago.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Almost everything about this game I learned from Perun + Ganker.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not that complicated. I could get by with just the tutorial and intuition

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not complicated.
          Relative to what video game?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watch Pechud

        How about we slap some FAQ Pastebin together instead lads?
        I could take a day off Uni tomorrow and we could make a FAQ for future OPs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Out of curiosity, what's the issue with Perun? Is it just because he's popular?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, probably just something to do with him being a youtuber.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think its because of the Perun org

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It almost certainly has to do with real life politics, because Perun does a lot of videos on the Ukraine War and while he tries to be impartial - the fact is Russia is shit at war.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Servants flipped 4 cores in china in 4 turns, fuck this shit game really, I've been scanning for alien agents, factories, whatever and absolutely nothing, I have all tech needed to detect them and resist enthrall btw.

        >watch Perun
        fuck that shill.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Will I do okay if I throw my head at it for 300 hours, like learning eu4 back in the day?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably. As long as you actually take deliberate effort to learn and think about what you could do better.

  100. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do i increase mil tech REALLY quickly? Ive already got space labs set up for it but it is still quite slow

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not sure you can unless you have tons of money and influence to burn.

  101. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >org gives +4% economy
    When does this benefit apply and to what? Do I need to have it equipped and have "advise" mission?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The economy priority.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No.
      Say you have China with 25 IP per month and 20% put towards economy. That would give 5 IP towards economy, but with the org it will give 5.2. You can hover over the different investments to see what sort of bonuses you get. The bonuses are just free extra points.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I found this confusing too, it really should say
      > +4% to all economy investments

  102. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you blob in this game?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sort of. But the game isn't a map painter.

  103. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anime

  104. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just had to seek peace for USA with an "Alien Administration in Alien Administration-USA" but the aliens didn't control any points in USA.

  105. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the name of the hab module or technology that is based on space platforms and provides Mission Control points? I heard about it, but I can't find it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      operations center

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Operations Centers
        >dependent on Augmented Reality
        That would explain it. Augmented Reality didn't sound that important so I didn't bother.

  106. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    pic related has to be the most useless interface I've encountered in years, I'm playing in a 27-inch monitor and the entire left column is barely readable, and stays blocked by other windows 90% of the time, there's a secondary notification bar on top that disappears when you click on it after flicking the relevant info for half a second, every pop up menu makes reference to obscure terms which aren't explained anywhere...
    Fucking amateur devs.

  107. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ayylmaos are FUCKED

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought they had superior technology. How can you win against a technologically and numerically superior enemy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't win.
        It's moreso like a stalemate.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My ships have roughly the same power as theirs at this point and my stations are basically fortresses.
        Those ships were just escorts but they had a combined power of 208, combined with a 681 power station. The ayys had a slight advantage in that battle because they attacked a few days before a battleship came out that would've turned it in my favor but I got a little lucky.

        He didn't win.
        It's moreso like a stalemate.

        Existence is victory because that's one of the three stations I've managed to get out, and of the three I lost one which really hurt my ship production capabilities.

  108. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i took over all of Russia's control points, am i supposed to set national policy to make Russia stop the war?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >stopping the war
      >not withdrawing back into Russia, direct investing miltech, waiting for the armies to heal before invading the Kiev region via Belarus

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        3 armies at full health is enough to take over Ukraine if you commit them at the same time (unlike what Putin is doing)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I thought overstacking over two offers no benefit?

  109. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like this game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based best korea

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based country for the based faction.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >often members of religious and ethnic minorities
          >the event picture has a curiously multiracial terrorist group
          Defeating their own message, I'd say.
          Also I find it funny working with them actually reveals ayy activities, which means THEY WERE RIGHT

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >4chan spots a single woman
            >urgggggghhhhhhhhhh globohomoooooo
            Did you seriously not realize they're all masked and hooded

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              woman in kitchen: not globohomo
              woman in position of power: globohomo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But homos literally hate women to the point they won't fuck them

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not fucking woman = replaced by immigration = ~~*they*~~ win

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But homos literally hate immigrants because immigrants want them killed
                Maybe you should think of a better name for your global conspiracy than one that implies white gay men want a world governed by women and islam

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                homos love immigrants and immigrants want them killed
                yes, this is the current state of affairs

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But I'm homo and I hate immigrants because they want me killed
                Same for all my homo and bi friends
                And actually same for my straight friends just not because they're afraid of getting killed for being straight
                You're probably thinking of non-whites, like americans for instance

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not fucking woman = replaced by immigration = ~~*they*~~ win

                go back to the other board retard, adults are talking

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Liberalism is pretty much a disease of the youth.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >makes up shit I didn't say at all
              Anon, if you can't see that the guy reading the piece of paper is supposed to be black...

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >says multiracial
              >seethes about women being the target
              I know you're a fucking retard but this is ridiculous

  110. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >from the creators of Long War
    moron, it was a shitty mod for an even shittier game, why is that a selling point? what a bunch of pretentious garbage.

  111. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That same station just turned away this massive 2k power fleet.
    I will repeat.
    The ayylmaos are FUCKED.

    They ruined my results screen because they had a trailing ship that tried to engage right after their main fleet got fucked so here's a bootleg results screen.
    I lost my three escorts but the battleship that came out after last battle survived, albeit extremely damaged.
    I also realized that my ships are basically stationary defenses because I was actually going to evacuate this station in the face of that fleet to consolidate a stronger defense at my last station, but I realized it would take them 5 years to transfer. It's a good thing I didn't abandon the station but it's also a huge problem.
    As cool as these victories are, I'm losing a war of attrition because I'm not actually destroying any ships. The ayys are so focused on my stations that I've tripled my mining operations but these ships aren't cheap and I'm starting to bleed my stockpiles dry.

  112. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck is up with UFO landings now
    >ayys touch down 3 armies, wasn't ready to counter and they start expanding
    >a few months later they touch down another UFO
    >have six destroyers with 480mm Green Arc lasers
    >start bombarding it
    >keep bombarding it
    >bombard it for a full month
    >just as the UFO is about to pop its armies out, I push the button and nuke it
    >armies spawn, UFO fucks off

  113. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sixth project slot requires you to be perma-exposed to sabotage while not actually speeding up your research in any way
    Thanks a lot.

  114. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does End of China work? Do I have to control China to dissolve it? If so then what's the point? Or do I research it as a non-China nation and if so then how do I active it?

    I would REALLY want to dissolve China. It's controlled by the Servants.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can incite unrest in regions and there's a chance that any nation with a core there revolts. You can increase this chance through the freedom fighters project.

  115. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2030
    >ayyys steamroll all my LEO space stations
    >my ships are nowhere near the tech level to resist
    Is this going to become a recurring thing now?
    Did I activate their trap card with one of the story techs?
    Should I fuck off to Mars orbit entirely?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you are too active against them on earth or expand too much in space the ayylmaos will get super pissy and try to purge you from space. They'll eventually start going after your mars bases too, so you want to rush defenses. A few layered defense arrays are enough to scare off most ships that consider attacking them.

      The tooltip says you can appease them by not interfering with them or the servants on earth, but I don't know how fast the threat level decreases and a few ayys running around can ruin earth really fast so I don't know if that's even viable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >A few layered defense arrays
        As in the station module?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, fuckoff to Mercury and taste the sun.

  116. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uh, wtf happened to India?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fault

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >letting China and India fall into servant hands
      oh shit moron what are you doing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Servants can ask ayys to take over if they get entrenched. See image for the two abilities they get. You gotta keep them weak or they'll fuck you like that.
        [...]
        Station or base, yeah. They're really strong. Though you also need some weapon projects to make them better. My layered defense arrays on my stations are currently using railguns and on bases they're using large green arc lasers.

        Is this the Servant's End-Game? Have I already lost? They are engaging in wars and their fleets are firing hellfire down onto the planet. The strongest ship I have is 66 strength.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Depends, what are your nations and their highest military tech? If you are still puttering about with pre-invasion armies and no orbital defense tech because you spent the whole time nation-building then you're going to have a bad time

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My armies are 4.6 score. Alien India is allied with Servant China. I could probably take out all of their orbital assets, assuming the aliens just don't part a fleet in orbit after I start shit. I could probably beat Indian forces, but probably not take India based on the attrition I experienced in Iran earlier in the game. China is a near-peer, plus both India and China have nukes. Either could just nuke my armies, to say nothing of North America.

            Is this the point where I nuke the world to prevent it from falling into the hands of the aliens? Burn half the world to save the other half.

            I don't know how you people are winning this game on your very first playthrough.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't know how you people are winning this game on your very first playthrough.
              I'm on my third.
              My first I failed to do much of anything, my second I spent too much time making big countries and ayys took over, and my third I'm struggling to keep my foothold in space because I was too aggressive early on.

              also, you're on a strict time limit. the alien administration will ramp up extremely hard extremely fast. In my second game I had all of America from Canada to Columbia and I couldn't deal with an ayylmao brazil.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Normal difficulty?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                On normal, yeah. They will start deploying ayylmao armies instead of earth armies and they're absurdly strong. They also annex everything they beat.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sooooo. Nuke it?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Save your nukes for the actual ayyy armies. They take multiple.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >good that you nuked the aliens occupying Israel
                >Aliens?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kek. Israel should by default start under Setvant control.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                garden gnomes serve nobody but themselves

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Counting the leak, I'm on my seventh campaign.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Speaking of leak, how much atmospheric methane would an event like this release?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Basically nothing and methane doesn't last very long in the atmosphere anyway

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Servants can ask ayys to take over if they get entrenched. See image for the two abilities they get. You gotta keep them weak or they'll fuck you like that.

      >A few layered defense arrays
      As in the station module?

      Station or base, yeah. They're really strong. Though you also need some weapon projects to make them better. My layered defense arrays on my stations are currently using railguns and on bases they're using large green arc lasers.

  117. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Mexico only have criminal orgs
    >Los Zetas
    >they no longer exist irl

    Why are english speakers so fucking ignorants 0/10 game

  118. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >elder statesman at 27
    what a chad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Elder Statesman
      >Military Scientist
      That's a fucking Japanese Caesar.

  119. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >first megafauna spawns in Iraq
    >Academy Russia and Protectorate Iran armies get bodied
    >Initiative American marines land for desert storm 2.0 and bodies the creature from 75% health while taking only 12% losses or so
    >realise those cunts just wanted to sell alien intestine powder to Chinese billionaires
    OORAH

  120. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >watching There But for the Grace of God while nuking the Servants as the aliens conquer my world
    What's a positive word that is also the opposite of "comfy"?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Invigorated maybe

  121. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Getting a consistent crash with a fleet of 20 ayylmaos outside of my station
    >Thought it was the battle size doing it so I lowered graphics and max battle size
    >Still crashes
    >Scrapped my fleet and decommissioned the station
    >Still crashes
    fug

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >used killstate on the alien fleet because I thought the alien fleet was bugged
      >it still crashes
      fug

  122. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got the nuclear inter achievement. Where do I view Earth's climate stats?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Intel > Global

  123. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How to increase army score fast? My three EU armies got Ukraine’d by Germany, probably because confed lowers the army score. Is direct investment the best way? Any techs that help?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you Russia'd yourself 😉

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you need it now, you gotta direct invest
      throwing up the research stations also helps a fair bit

  124. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the year 2032
    >the AI still hasn't managed to cuck me out of a single tech decision
    >deep skywatch still not researched
    The tech tree is too metagamey.
    Also the pacing is awful, and the project list has far too many redundancies. Why do I need four different NERVA variants?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Someone compiled a chart with all the drives in the game. There's a lot of shitty drives you would never use unless you got cucked out of every good drive tech.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cucked
        Wait, other factions researching other drives keep you from using them?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          More, other factions researching the wrong global techs keeps you from using them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him, but explain.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you don't provide the largest share of research points into global techs, you don't get to pick the next tech to research. If you're focusing on say, getting your faction objective research done, and the AI keeps not picking, say, inertial confinement fusion and z-pinch fusion? Fuck you, no inertial fusion or z-pinch fusion drives for you. Locking you (and everyone else) out of those drives. Now look at the chart. Inertial fusion and z-pinch fusion provide the best thrust and best efficiency drives. Leaving you needing to use something else.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, good. I thought there was some kind of tech lockout mechanic.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there was some kind of tech lockout mechanic
                Worse, there is an rng lockout mechanic. And no, I'm not talking about the techs that have a chance at the start of each month to be researchable, but techs that just straight up won't show up in your campaign, mainly drive techs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I had practically all the diplomacy techs unlock on a delay for the short time I played. Some didn't unlock at all but I wonder if that was because I didn't meet prerequisite conditions on the map

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is there a list for all the nation techs?
                For example I was able to add Eurasian Union to the EU but I never got the option to unify them.
                Also I never been able to unify North Africa or the Middle East but I was able to make the African union with Ethiopia and Somalia without any tech.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Click on full tech tree and scroll down and to the right
                It's a bit of information overload though since there are so many

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Techs that is mandatory to progress isn't permanently locked like some drive techs. Essentially, a random list of drives is being chosen on campaign start that can be discovered, while the ones not on the list will not show up in your campaign at all. You never know whether or not the drive you've researched the prerequisites for will show up at all. This is also the reason why a lot of drive techs are almost the same in terms of performance.

  125. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, who here has actually beat the aliens?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can beat the aliens on land even without having any tech cause Europe+Russia equals 50 divisions.
      But my space shit got fucked.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm just wondering if the last minute attempts of the developer to increase the difficulty to negate the early strats left the game unbeatable to beginners.

        Has ANYONE hear beat this game?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Some Anon posted a really good space station fortress build that I could have easily replicated I just fucked around and wasted time instead of doing it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it’s Darkest Dungeon all over again
          Watch them nerf Baikanor next.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I had the last mission ready to finish in the leak but it was unplayable because of the memory leak. I dominated the aliens from day one, barely left any alien fleet get into the low orbits after 2030, etc. I was metagaming a bit to be fair, but no exploits.

          Devs watch Perun too. They're obviously countering his strategies. As I mentioned earlier, this is Darkest Dungeon all over again. The devs of that game actively fought with the community over the game's difficulty in a race to the bottom. In the end, the game didn't become harder, the players were just left with fewer good options.

          Yep, the EA has basically nerfed everything that was cost-effective, halted player expansion and doubled the alien ships dps because this shitty devs can't think of anything better to make the game more challenging.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Same, I neglected space for too long. I wonder if there is a way to get back in the game still, by getting some good techs and then building up a base to pump out ships on a remote asteroid or something.

  126. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >income supposedly at -500 per month
    >stockpile keeps growing
    Nanofactories don't get taken into the monthly calculation, or what is happening here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spoils give you money off the books.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not sure if that's the reason, I'm seeing some of the greatest drops in the displayed monhly income with some of the greatest actual gains yet, and it seems hab-related.
        On a spoils-related note, is it normal that developed countries will gradually creep downwards in terms of GDP as the game progresses? I haven't had any major wars or other disasters, but the US still managed to drop by close to 10% GDP over 10 years.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably just global warming.

  127. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there some way to kill a faction for good?

  128. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a time travel episode where you see how dire the consequences will be if you lose
    Welp, my game crashed after I was forced to nuke India and China (no autosaves either, which is weird). I now have an opportunity to stop the Servants from controlling China. They already control India. How do I unseat The Servants from China?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How do I unseat The Servants from China
      You don't. China's population + defended control points will give you a success chance of roughly 5-7 percent with a maxed out councillor and investment, assuming you can even get 50+ public support in there, which also has roughly the same success chance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hit them with Crack and Purge at the same time. Crack always finished before Purge so you could have all but one on Crack and hope one get's through.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm looking at Perun's American Science doing the same America start and it's nearly two orders of magnitude larger than my science. If I'm at the tipping point before the aliens start getting aggressive despite my passivity then it's game over regardless. I think I need to restart.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have a sacrificial nation with nukes nuke the less valuable colony regions to the west until they have emptied their stocks, then have the American army show up and take Beijing.

      Russia has a trash economy and lots of nukes, so I usually use them.

  129. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you make your own federations?
    What tech? Is it private or public?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are predefined federations. You need "claims" on another nation to form a federation with them. Claims cannot be created by you. They can only exist already or be researched.

  130. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is literally anyone here playing as Protectorate or Servants?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >playing as protectorate
      Why would one be so gay?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope not.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Protectorate
      Literal cuckold faction. Servants are alright, but easy mode due to getting everything for free.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m playing protectorate China for my first game, but realised I’m wildly behind on the space race and China is expensive as shit in admin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Me as the Servants. Really fun. It's like playing as the aliens in a way.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just won a game as servants. Would've been posting updates but I hadn't realised we'd changed threads.

      Not surprisingly, servants are an incredibly easy campaign, the only difficulty came from the Alien Admin being completely retarded and suiciding about 20 armies I'd worked so hard to build dropping them one by one into the EU. AI seem to prioritise miltech way more now while the Alien admin actually receive 0 miltech from the miltary priority, therefore slowly getting weaker as they absorb third world militaries.

      Still it was pretty fun and relatively short. Another thing I found out is the AI tendency to nuke has been reduced significantly, not sure how the extremist factions use them but all other ones including the aliens will only ever use them defensively.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Servants need to be revamped, in my opinion. Possibly with more emphasis on curing global warming and dealing with various problems the Ayys have colonizing Earth.
        Maybe if global warming ever got bad enough, it'd make the planet unpalatable for the Ayys. Reverse the usual They Live concept. In a lot of real life UFO mythos, the ayys are pretty much space hippies - or at least described as such. Would be nice to see elements of that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's even the challenge as Servants? There's no spaceborne threats to you?

  131. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Map painting is so satisfying.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What year is this anon?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        2050.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How u do dis?

      This looks like a game of EU4.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Great nations -> Pan Asian Combine,Greater India, and Greater United States of North America, and various other mega nations.

        The ones that merge various African, South American, and Middle Eastern nations are a lot of hassle and not worth it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, but how did you do that without Big Blue Cock sissifying your ass?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >2050
          >40% economy
          >still less GDP than United Europe in 2030

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            pretty sure that's actually less gdp than USA in 2022

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            3 decades of nukes flying toasts the global economy. Also IPs scale by the third root of GDP, so increasing economy is usually less valuable than spending the points you have on something immediately.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Even when fighting alien controled factions I never got nuked unless it was their capital.
              And for some reason the Alien nation never nukes they just orbitally bombard your ass.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, why would the aliens use crude nuclear arms when they can do orbital bombardment? Only reason they even bother with the whole infiltration and ground invasion is because they don't initially see humans as enough of a threat to start with the heavy ordinance.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >that NATO stars and stripes

          >it's a time travel episode where you see how dire the consequences will be if you lose
          Welp, my game crashed after I was forced to nuke India and China (no autosaves either, which is weird). I now have an opportunity to stop the Servants from controlling China. They already control India. How do I unseat The Servants from China?

          A similar situation happened to me, however notice that Extreme inequality. Eventually people will get super mad and throw the bums out, and you should probably help that along.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Six point stars equal state.
            Five point stars equals country.
            Four point stars equals alliance.
            Three point stars euqals ???
            Two point stars aren't really anything.
            One point stars??????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Not fully assembling the South East Asian Federation so Indonesia also ends up in the Combine
      7/10

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      JEsus Christ what is up with Russia

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you even funding boost at that stage? And what year is it? Also

      >Not fully assembling the South East Asian Federation so Indonesia also ends up in the Combine
      7/10

      this. You could've gone bigger.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Boost is used by tourism/elderly facilities that generate cash.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, right, those. I didn't think those were really worth bothering with. So they are?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can get money from construction facilities, but those consume base/noble metals. The geriatrics facilities (which have a better money/boost ratio) don't consume metals, so I like to have a few stations of them.

  132. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is the game finally fun and playable yet?

  133. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    any torrents? i saw one on rutracker but its currently unverified

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's on gog so you can easily find clean torrents.

  134. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finally! These fuckers are so hard to take alive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And literally the next day they immediately started transit to one of my research stations...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea they are pretty ruthless I heard in attacking shit when you piss them off.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          In comparison, if you don't fuck with them at all they let you get 50 mission control worth of shit in space before they attack.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I got over 90 MC worth of stuff w/o issue. It was only after I captured one of them that I generated enough threat for them to get aggressive. It seems the used MC level only stops the threat level going down but doesn't make it go up all that much. So just lie low while you build in space and only do what you need to for the mission objectives.
            Also I now have rail guns to go with the lasers.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are you playing on brutal?
              The only thing that I did was nuke three of their armies in self defense, and that happened years ago.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, normal. But the Servants went public with their love of aliens and I was warned by a popup that the aliens will now retaliate heavily if I fuck with the aliens or the Servants in anyway.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              it really is a balancing act
              you have to fuck with them since if you don't they'll get hellishly entrenched, but if you do you auto lose the game when they driveby all your stations

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Let them waste a whole bunch of stations. They will get tired of it, and eventually the accrued atrocities will absolutely tank the Servants public opinion across the globe, hamstringing them for a while.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They killed all my LEO research stations but they are having trouble doing damage to my shipyard since it was the first station I built defense arrays on. Turns out the alien missiles are really fragile to lasers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Point defense, Satan?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, its what I had. One of the ships ran off, probably out of ammo. The other decided to stay to shoot at the arrays but its mid section is now damaged from all the PDLs it ate with those maneuvers. Turns out the PDL's also intercept gun rounds for the nose gun as well.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                PDCs IRL do that too
                CRAM stands for Counter Rocket Artillery Mortar
                lasers just make doing it easy because speed of light

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thats a good way to farm some resources and get a jump start on the exotics research.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I wish he stuck around to die, but alas the pussy ran for it. Turns out the aliens are just big cowards, the moment something can actually fight back they turn tail and run.

  135. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game is really fucking good. It was so fucking hilarious to me how so many gays on here shit on it for the first couple days after release for being too autistic or clunky or whatever other dumb buzzwords contrarian retards use.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ten rubles have been deposited in your account.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. It's just mad paracucks from stellaris who got filtered.

  136. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Use Perun's Tasmania Monitor ship build
    > 2 Monitor (T2) vs ONE Ayy Covette (T1)
    > They one shot both of my ships anyway, they went down as well
    > 2 T2 to trade for one T1
    What the fuck??? You people said the Ayy's early ships are weak. How is this weak? What's the point of armor if it doesn't protect me fuck all?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you hadn't noticed, Perun's current series hasn't shown a fleet battle since EA release, only in the demo. I am personally now a fan of PDL's since witnessing them just shut down two alien DD's.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Really curious how he will pilot his build cuz I did every thing he said, using Tasmania to defend, use the head to absorb damage and it literally ALWAYS got blown up in one shot.
        Also are there any meta build for mid and late game ship build so I know what to focus my research on?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly its seems like people are just rushing BB's and stacking missiles and PD's on them until the Aliens start using their own PD's. As for armor, I honestly have no fucking clue when you finally unlock armor that actually stops Alien weapons w/o being too heavy. Seems like the first few armor materials are only good against other humans.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Devs watch Perun too. They're obviously countering his strategies. As I mentioned earlier, this is Darkest Dungeon all over again. The devs of that game actively fought with the community over the game's difficulty in a race to the bottom. In the end, the game didn't become harder, the players were just left with fewer good options.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the dev is the long war guy
        he did that shit there too against streamers like beaglerush
        it was what burnt him out too, since beagle knew that the dev was monitoring everything he did purely to spite him specifically

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's fucked.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek
        that is what always happen when devs don't play their own games
        similar thing happened with Battle Brothers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >similar thing happened with Battle Brothers
          what happened to BB?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >devs are bad at game/don't play it
            >all feedback they get from dozens dedicated players who break game in 100 different ways
            >remove/nerf them(sometimes justified mostly not) especially if they have beef with the player
            >on release increase grinding(both in exp and cash)
            >build new factions around being annoying to the player(often using builds that they nerfed for a player)
            >buff enemies to the point that some of them are not worth efforts and best are simply avoided and never fought
            sure BB is decent game and pretty solid SP gacha(grind and roll for everything - soldier stats, rare items) with good tactical battles but could be better

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm kinda angry they took away the aliens suffering from icequakes to fuck over their starter base. It was a hella low chance for it to happen at all and it was nice knowing aliens could suffer from player events too. One game being kind of easy out of like 30 is nothing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ayy corvettes seem to be much stronger than the destroyers against monitors

  137. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you access the game's codex? I know there is one in the main menu, but certain techs talk about how entries have been added to the codex but when I look in the menu's codex it is unchanged.

  138. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't have to go to Darkest Dungeon, Long War got more more repetitive, slow and tedious with every update because they listened to a small cadre of retards who suck their dicks and went after anyone with a different opinion, to the point that most people according to the poll, never finished it.
    And after years of getting high huffing their own farts here comes Terra Invicta....

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>>/hm/

  139. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Welp, another thing that is different from what the youtubers are saying: the Aliens now do hit and run raids on Mercury. They don't just ignore Mercury so you will have to make sure your stations are defended.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Approaching 2030 with control of China as Humanity First while the Servants control the US. Hope I am not in for nuclear war

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >letting servants get nukes
        gg no re

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their ship is so fucking fast too, take like 2 months for them to arrive there from an outer system base. I had to DamageShip cheat the first one to buy time because my shipyard was slow and half my MC is on there, if they touch it it's literally just game over.

  140. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else notice the Humanity First AI has no idea what it is doing? Other factions seem pretty competent, but Humanity First is like some retard running around South America or trying to cobble together some shitty European countries. China is wide open right now in my game, but HF isn't even trying for it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm wagering the devs gimped HF so that they and the Servants don't nuke each other every game.

  141. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uh, is it normal for the Alien space ships to just explode within the first 3 seconds of a fight? Are copper head missiles that fast?

  142. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What should my strategy be regarding protecting my councilors/making them loyal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno, I think fire low loyalty ones cause advise spam is too risky. I got two 90's in a row and tanked their loyalty score.

  143. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will all battles be small scale skirmishses or do I eventually get massive fleet showdowns with aliums

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pretty sure the aliens are in no mood to reenact Midway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      When the aliens detect a fleet burning towards their home base, they'll start hunkering down for a bit it seems. I had a 5k fleet fighting about 8k worth of ships and it was a pretty massive battle. Beyond that, I don't think you're going to have many decisive battles. It doesn't help that it's much harder to do an interception away from a base compared to wet navies.

  144. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a way to forcibly take the last control point from other factions? I'm sitting on 3/4ths of germany and the UK and i'm pulling my hair out. They keep refreshing defend on cooldown, right before crackdown or purge can take advantage.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Get high public support, and get high attributes on your councilors with orgs that boost the governing attributes for crackdown and purge. This will raise the odds so that while its not assured, at least its possible. Also don't forget to murder, hostile take over, and jail enemy councilors regularly. This way only you can have high level councilors with good orgs. Bonus points for managing to turn one of theirs's into a mole for you.

  145. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    New patch out, it says it made the control space asset missions more difficult so in theory the AI won't be able to keep stealing your shit but I'm not that far in yet to test this.

  146. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    impeached 🙁

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Getting cucked out of America by the biggest cucks in the universe...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish there was some modeling of elections. Like, election years in certain countries would change probabilities.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was hoping hey would model some type of election engineering like the Patriots from Metal gear when taking over instead of just "get control point = lmao done and done"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It would be a good reason to have an autocracy as well. No chance of losing your CPs in exchange for whatever good thing democracies give.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had that happen to me in russia, had a 5% purge chance on the executive node so I went for unrest which 3 of my councillors had

      Total shitshow anyway. 2 months in one of the councillors got told to do a government job then got jailed. Spent an entire actual year just creating a civil war in russia to get control of my executive point back and then the economic hit from it contracted the economy and I decided the aliens won and I needed to retry again but more better

      never letting a big country sit without protected nodes ever agian

  147. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does the tier 2 fusion power plant require more techs beyond the Fusion in Space one?

  148. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you guys play on normal difficulty?

  149. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Kiwi Nerva
    >Dumbo Nerva
    >Cermet Nerva
    >Pulsar Nerva
    >Advanced Nerva
    >Rover Nerva
    >Snare Nerva
    AAAAHHH
    WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT

  150. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Killed my third Servant councilor and it ain't even 2030 yet. Feels so fucking good.

  151. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I build ground-to-space defense? There are event of the AI getting them and destroying satellites.
    How is plasma cannon? Is it good endgame or is the meta still laser? Are there any long range doomstack meta like in Stellaris?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need Trans-Interface Warfare for it. It's about 75k total research.

      Not sure.
      >Doc said they are born hermaphroditic and sexual differentiation only happens late in their life cycle, ca. 2 centuries in.
      >probably reproduce slowly
      >fuckers also have 3 heart/brain clusters
      >t. HF after our resident bugman took one out

      I can't wait for the modded faction whose end goal is to turn the aliens into sex slaves by finding a way to manipulate their biology into making them always become female.

  152. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did Perun just deleted his early ship guide video?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably realized it was severely outdated.

  153. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What does this icon mean?
    Radiashuns?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, so you can't put hospitals and pensioner centers there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Needs heavier hab modules.

  154. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >playing the resistance
    >unifying europe
    >ukraine vs russia war rages on
    >russia gets controlled by servants
    >usa gets a revolution
    >usa executive control by servants
    >japan? joins war and gets assblased in kyiv for some reason
    >usa allies with russia, invades ukraine
    >few months later I take executive control of russia and ukraine
    >retreat with armies from ukraine
    >usa conquers ukraine
    >it becomes part of russia
    >make federation between russia and european union
    >year 2025
    This is some funny shit.

  155. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking hate the mandatory defend interest mission spam that completely fucks you over if you miss having it on for even a single turn. What the fuck were the devs thinking

  156. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time to place your bets lads

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, torpedo rain, my favourite

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a special ed class charging a machine gun nest.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The first salvo completely overwhelmed and obliterated the first battlestation, with the second being left in the red.
        After that, the fight left them, so I let the battlestation pick off as many as I dared before the odd, lucky hit of an orange laser put the finisher on it as well. Here's to hoping they'll fuck off and let me repair.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, torpedo rain, my favourite

      Is it better to have a few stations that are basically all defense modules or pepper a couple defense modules on every station?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You won't be able to have armed stations that also do something useful until tier 3.
        Until then, just spam unarmed stations and keep rebuilding them.
        They can kill two in one sweep, they can't kill twenty.
        Not like space minerals are a scarce resource once you've paved Mars over with mines.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>You won't be able to have armed stations that also do something useful until tier 3
          My station here

          This is the station that humbled the ayys and is now mass producing battleships. It has 681 military power and has a 165 power battleship docked at it now with 5 more on the way.
          About 13 or so stations like this had to die before I finally managed to sneak one out that survived long enough to be built.
          [...]
          I don't think you can. That was a major setback in my campaign because I went extremely hard on mars colonizing and stopping any and all alien activity or supporters on earth so the ayys got super pissed and purged me from the stars.

          is tier 2 and frequently beat back ayys. They get kinda pissy if you run off their janny ships and start sending big battlefleets so you need a few actual ships stationed there eventually but the station will still have a massive impact in the battle.

          One thing I don't think people realize is defense modules are dynamic rather than static. If you hover over one it'll tell you what gun it's using, if you unlock an improved one it'll switch to that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but it's a whole station's worth of upkeep for one whole shipyard module.
            Also, I've never seen t2 defense modules fend off anything beyond a token destroyer that fucks off after running out of missiles with (I have IR arc lasers, not sure how well they work with higher tech). In my run, ayys started regularly conducting orbit flattening with 3k strength fleets by 2032, so I no longer get attached to my stations. Kinda wish there was a way to set up station templates.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Kinda wish there was a way to set up station templates.
              That's coming.
              But I'm still holding off from playing until that does come.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's well worth it when you can barely have a station survive long enough to be built.
              I had a station fend off a 2k strength battlefleet but I also had a fleet worth ~400 stationed at it. Mine were running railgun mk2's.

  157. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Drop a nuke on the alien invasion y/n?
    Pretty sure the alien armies can murder whatever I can throw at them.

  158. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How early can you rush Jupiter and would it be worth it to do?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I tried rushing jupe, got immediately glassed by ayys

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn.
        Maybe they get really pissy if you go past the asteroids? Are you sure it wasn't something else you did? Also, what year did you get there and when did they attack you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it was still in the 2020's and I was way below the alien's radar, which is why I even bothered spending the resources on the attempt in the first place. As soon as the module finished, it got glassed.

  159. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    F
    Cauterized the whole island.
    Cuba is back in stone age, the whole world is covered in spooky dark clouds of nuclear doom and my GDP tanked by 5% overnight, but the ayys are gone.
    I might have picked the wrong faction.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks to me like you picked the right faction

  160. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shipyards should always go on the highest orbits right? Or maybe LR points?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are 2 types of shipyard:
      Defensive shipyard to build kamikaze ship in your key planet like Earth, Mercury and Mars. These type should be build right at the low or medium range so they can react the quickest.
      Offensive shipyard to prepare an invasion force. These you can build in Lagrange points. I prefer the Earth-Moon one and Earth-Sun one. The Earth-Moon one can also be used defensively.

  161. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >usa declares war on northern balkan states
    >which are in federation with russia
    >which is in federation with european union
    >eu+russia vs alien controlled usa
    I'm surprised the dumbfuck humanity first portion of servant executive controlled USA still sent their armies to fight resistance armies. What a glorious clusterfuck.

    All because I wanted to unify italy into EU.

  162. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the MINIMUM ship tech i need to fight the weakest alien ship that usually comes into Earth's orbit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Missiles
      Missiles decimate ayys unless they're destroyers with point defense batteries, and even those can be overwhelmed. The problem is your ships surviving their railguns and laser spam long enough for the missiles to actually get there, or even hitting at all as they don't have the best DV while the ayys do their tokyo drifting, but that can be mitigated by getting close as fast as you can and dumping your load while they're mid-turn

  163. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    mmm yes, very disturbing indeed

    • 2 months ago
      Overrated games thread

      nice conspiracy theory bigot

  164. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck do I start a combat with my ship BEHIND my station? Why tf does the game keep forcing me to put them in front of our fucking point defense system?

  165. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros how do you go through the wall of text... its too much...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What text are you talking about? The mission events?

  166. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does clicking tech screen for a specific drive bring you to the general tech screen and not right to where the drive is

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      pavonis can't into dictionaries

  167. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    not in here too!

  168. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    weebs and vatniks unite

    • 2 months ago
      Overrated games thread

      the geopolitics seems to be semirandom. Japan, the puppet of usa, unites with russia against ukraine whos completely alone in this war (whats the point of even having it in the game then), and also russia have rivalry with israel. Nonsense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The hohol fears the samurai.

  169. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hostile takeover too OP. It's barely 2024 and all my councilors are 25/25 admin

  170. 2 months ago
    Overrated games thread

    as i understand the point of the early game is to take control of either china or usa, because its much simpler to control one strong nation rather than a bunch of smaller weaker ones

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also to cripple, since the game doesn't allow total annihilation of factions, your chief rival who will get in the way when you're dealing with the aliens. Also depends on the faction you're playing. Like for instance, from what I can tell I think Humanity First needs a huge nuke arsenal no matter what. So china is kind of off the table for them

  171. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can settlements fire back at ships in orbit?
    All I get is info that ayy started bombing and having defences doesn't seem to do anything to stop it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      please despond

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Settlement defense modules do fire at bombarding ships, but the actual damage they inflict, if any, is random as hell. I've seen a corvette demolish 3 defense arrays solo while I've also seen one defene array delete 3 destroyers, both cases with the same techs.

  172. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ayys are buttmad I keep on BTFOing their agents. How do I get a presence in space now that they decide to destroy everything I have up there in their autismic rage?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the thing, you don't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      spam stations faster than they are destroying them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now you get to experience the joys of iranian nuclear programs with american drones circling overhead

      best you can do is stay low for a while (2-3 years), try to fight back or restart

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Easy mistake to make, you're supposed to establish defense in space before you send your top-espionage agent on a killing spree.
      I lost a couple campaigns during the beta that way before I realized that was what happened.

  173. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lost the ability to construct more mission control in one of my countries. What's going on? It doesn't say that there is a limit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Regions are capped at 6 MC normally, 8 with a core eco in a region, and 0 for colonies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Switch to the province tab and you can see more info about mission control and other things.

  174. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck is the AI taking over my stations if they don't have any marines?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      alien hax0rs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They sent their councilors.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but the councillor needs to be accompanied by marines, at least for me

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There is a mission called "Control space asset". It uses persuasion and has nothing to do with marines. A high PER councilor can use it to steal space assets.

  175. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did rail guns get buffed?

  176. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what tech upgrades fission piles? Is it private or public?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can upgrade them? I thought it was just fission, fusion, and solar (which scales based on distance from the Sun) with them each having their three different sizes.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do I get bigger fission then? Supporting t2 mining with t1 fission piles is hard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you already have T2 modules, you're already have the prerequisites to get T2 fission piles. It's just a random chance to be able to research it.

  177. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish this was multiplayer, with faction trying to screw eachother while kinda cooperating against the aliens at the same time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is not a good multiplayer game. It may sound cool in your head but it would an enormous pain to coordinate.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think so? It doesn't seem more complicated than other gsg

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think this game would be pretty shitty for multiplayer because of the sheet amount of ways you can interrupt and fuck over players, especially their action amount. Being able to fuck over the action economy of other players so easily through the use of detain or assassinate would make this game hell. They'd need to allow further gameplay options outside of councilor missions and increase base mission difficulty to ever make it feel enjoyable to play against another human.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So security would stop being a shit stat that you don’t bother to raise, that really doesn’t feel like a game destroying factor.

  178. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I occupy a country sometimes they get annexed and sometimes they get regime changed. Why?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously a country you own needs to have a claim on and be at war with them for them to get annexed, but I think it also needs an army of its own fighting in the to be annexed territory in order for it to get annexed. So if you have Country A with claims on Country B, then start a war between them and have Country C, ally of Country A, bring in their stronger armies to conquer Country B for Country A it won't annex it unless Country A has an army fighting alongside the armies of Country C. At least that's how I think it works.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You may need to have A army, but I don't think you have to do much fighting. It might just be 'literally in combat ever'. US helped me annex Italy and Greece for my EU blobbing, I did none of the work.

  179. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you just not build on hab-side docks? What's the point of a spacedock module, then?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your ship doesn't have enough thrust to get off the moon, so it's not letting you build it there. Ground-side docks are mainly good for asteroids since they have extremely low thrust requirements. I usually put my Martian dock on Deimos.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you. It's really bad at telling you why it doesn't allow something.

        Am I correct in concluding that to steal space assets, you need to orbit your counselor, transfer them to a ship, wait forever while it goes whereever you want to go, then you can somehow transfer them to the base/target/whatever and try the steal asset mission?

        Is it worth making some terran orbit brute-force tug to deal with the obscene travel times?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't need that last transfer I think, as long as your councilor's ship is at the station it should work. Worth really depends on the station, but you're generally better off just building your own station and defending it.

          All the other lasers follow both so it's confusing why this combo is missing.

          It's probably to reduce the number of PD lasers you have to consider.

          >swimming in fissiles
          >fixed my base metals limitation
          >EXTREMELY FUCKING CHOKED TO DEATH ON NOBLE METALS
          holy fucking SHIT on my DICK just let me set up a SINGLE mine on Io you alien DICKS

          >Io
          Oh shit moron what are you doing? Three asteroids probably provides more noble metals than all of Io, and they're closer to you. The asteroids that roll really high on noble metals are the same even in every game even if the exact number is randomized, so go look for these asteroids.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do I manufacture off-earth mission control? I let it slack because I was focused only on boost.

            Initiative took a moonbase from me, I want to take it back, and also steal the moonbase with 19 radioactives from the servants.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's called operation center, might be unlocked by photonic computing or something.
              Level 2 module.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Three asteroids probably provides more noble metals than all of Io,
            Aliens are squatting on them. Do you really think I'd break my balls over taking Io instead of just camping out on some gay rocks if I could

  180. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >servants auto-flip my control point in fucking China
    FUCK OFF REEEEEEE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean auto-flip

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Special ayylium mission that can flip any control point really easily. I think it can even target the executive directly.

  181. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    shid

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  182. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do the visible/UV laser techs unlock new PD modules?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your existing PDs upgrade as soon as the world laser tech goes up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean the ship modules.
        There's a dedicated PD battery unlocked with the initial laser tech, but there doesn't seem to be any upgrades with the new visible/UV techs. Only generic light batteries that do gave the defence tag but have far longer cooldown.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          PD lasers follow the arc/phaser upgrades, not the green/UV upgrades.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            All the other lasers follow both so it's confusing why this combo is missing.

  183. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What tech unlocks base defenses?

  184. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >USA, China, Russia fully taken over (after spamming crackdown on China for half a year)
    >EU under resistance
    >India executive under initiative
    >cuck factions don't exist outside of African shitholes
    I-is this it? Can I just ignore the planetside politics now and skip every turn from now on?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can focus on space, but everybody will still give you shit and grief, so you can never truly autopilot Earth
      and Servants will inevitably invite the ayys to culturally enrich you unless you're ready to start a spacewar and shoot their assault carriers down

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I already nuked their invasion with extreme prejudice when it first showed up.
        I've been dealing with ayy drivebys on my bases and stations for a while now, and they seem to be ramping up their fleet size, so I don't really have any option beyond tech up and duke it out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You still have to keep public opinion up and defending the CPs, but yeah, pretty much. Just remember to occasionally cull their councilors or they can become annoying.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I think the biggest protip the game doesn't teach you but should is "assassinate rival factions whenever you get the chance". I just keep killing Servants and Protectorate and won't stop. Never stop. Just kill them all.
        I am a moderate Resistance.

  185. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >swimming in fissiles
    >fixed my base metals limitation
    >EXTREMELY FUCKING CHOKED TO DEATH ON NOBLE METALS
    holy fucking SHIT on my DICK just let me set up a SINGLE mine on Io you alien DICKS

  186. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm strapped for volatiles, despite having Mars paved over with mines.
    Where do I go for space oil?
    I kept the goyim in the dark about the ayy's outer system military-industrial complex so I have nothing beyond Mars/Mercury at the moment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Carbon asteroids, Ceres to a degree as well + no more water shortages after grabbing that one.

  187. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I stop other factions from just stealing stations from me?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats the neat part, you dont.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can defend them like you can nations, but you have to transfer to and from them so you spend 3 turns for 1 action.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to have high average loyalty among your councilors.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2869705594&searchtext=

  188. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Early to mid game should've been something like
    >start out with a couple of agents
    >game plays as early game currently does, assigning missions manually to spread influence
    >gradually subvert important orgs
    >orgs are unique meaningful entities not just a billion stat sticks and kickstarter names
    >agents delegate tasks to the orgs
    >marketing orgs spread your propaganda nation (and later world) wide
    >security agencies defend your interests in the applicable nation
    >you're no longer spending every month setting missions for agents to do the same thing over and over
    >you're setting the general agenda as the game scale increases from dominating a handful nations to dominating the world
    >your agents are now your inner sanctum
    >your counter intelligence guy directs efforts to seek out and turn or eliminate enemy agents
    >your PR guy uses his control in marketing and media outlets across the world to keep your narrative the one at the forefront
    >as you expand into space you no longer need to fuck around with setting inane tasks like boosting popularity
    >you have that taken care of because you own through various means over half the media on the planet
    >no longer setting a mission every other week to surveil a country because you own dozens of spy agencies which do this for you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Instead of using "councilors", you control X-COM esque entities as you described.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You not wrong but you posted this already.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No I didn't

  189. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >HF America is just going around invading the shit out of the Servants
    You love to see it.

  190. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're playing servants, is there any reason you can't just blob?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. Servants are basically meant to be OPFOR. Their buffs are absurd, and once they take over a country like Russia or China the game is over.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      servants is easy mode, you are meant to be overpowered. Just blob and win.

  191. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >5 dV is enough to go from earth to the moon
    Oh okay cool
    so I'll build a monitor that is expressly for intercepting ayyy scouters, and give it 5.1
    >build it on Luna l1 station
    >try to move it to my low earth orbit station
    "insufficient range"
    u wot m8

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        christ
        I'm going to swear off this game for a few days, I've already dumped fifty hours into it and I still have no idea how to control ships.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This game will need more time off it for planning like poe or something?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No. You don't need to plan orbit manually because it's hidden behind an approximated but scientifically correct formula. Instead you're presented a transfer time/delta-V slider and you can decide to prioritize one or the other.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can lower the delta V needed in the menu for the fleet to move. This makes the trip take longer ofc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >expressly for intercepting ayyy scouters
      >give it 5.1
      5 delta V is just how much you need for the flight. You need to set aside delta V for combat, as well as some for actually intercepting the ship. Otherwise, the ayys will just fly away from you and you can't stop them from doing shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was just trying to move it from L1 spacedock to the LEO spacedock

        You can lower the delta V needed in the menu for the fleet to move. This makes the trip take longer ofc.

        thank, will try to find that.

  192. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Russia so hard nerfed in this game, it's absolutely ridiculous.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because getting the federation completed is a waste of time that doesn't gain you anything compared to just going for literally any other major power, even India. You're massively behind in tech and the only thing going for you is boost while everything else is in complete shambles.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And?
          But Russia also has nukes. That makes it an important factor even though it's pretty weak. But other than that it's not great until you want to go for uber EU and absorb all of Russia and the stans into the European Union.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're not supposed to play 'Russia' or 'USA' or any nationality in specific. Get some USA nodes for armies, Kazakstan for boost, EU for research, Russia for nukes etc. depending on your situation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Russia's biggest problem is that their main advantage is how much they can unify with, but you want to avoid unifying with anything because of how unification works.

          You're not supposed to play 'Russia' or 'USA' or any nationality in specific. Get some USA nodes for armies, Kazakstan for boost, EU for research, Russia for nukes etc. depending on your situation.

          You don't really have the cp to spread yourself out to more than one big power and one middle power. Until the 30s you can barely even afford just USA and Canada.
          Also due to the way ip works a country in the hands of a player will always turn out better than any country an AI gets its hands on. So you are encouraged to stick with countries you chose early.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Also due to the way ip works a country in the hands of a player will always turn out better than any country an AI gets its hands on.
            What do you mean? Are you just talking about the AI having shit priorities?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes. A Russia in the hands of the player will often turn out better than a USA in the hands of the AI. They have shit priorities and are obsessed with war when a nation like USA will cripple itself if it sends out its entire army, which they do, until it is completely returned home. In my game I saw a USA down to 7 ip at one point because of mismanagement on top of sending out their entire army to fight some shithole in africa that doesn't have an army.

  193. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    To save on command cap you don't even need to own all of USA to get good use of their armies. If you grab executive and leave the other seats for other faction they'll happily go bonk any nation you declare war on.

  194. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you not build space hotels on planets? I have the moon up to 50k population but I don't see it in my module list.

  195. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Help me, anons. I'm retarded.

    I don't really know what I'm doing. I've redone the tutorial a thousand times and read the codex etc, but it feels like 70% of my time is downtime. So far, for example, my "best" game is:
    >Fully control UK, Ireland, France, Benelux, Spain
    >Form "EU" nation including all except UK (so far)
    >Working on Germany
    >One thing in space, just the base module of something with no attachments or whatever
    >No idea what I'm doing

    Every turn I just boost popularity in countries I'm trying to control, but once I hit the cap of control points I'm just dicking around. Sending the odd person to alien stuff if it happens. Buying the odd organisation. I don't understand if I'm meant to be accomplishing so much more during each mission phase or what.

    People say it's a slow burning game, but sometimes I worry I'm going TOO slow as other factions have other shit already in Space and developing. Maybe I've just barely scratched the surface. All the guides on "beginner tips" and "early guides" are just explanations of some mechanics. I don't think I've struggled to understand any mechanics, but I definitely feel very aimless most of the time.

    At the minute my "goal" is just to unite most of Europe into a superstate and get a decent space program going? I guess?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your goal is to start your space industry asap, grabbing land on Earth is just a means to do it. You need to get a lot of boost, start mining the moon then go to mars.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're supposed to be investigating areas and councilors trying to find ayylmaos, assassinating rival councilors, ideally servants. always keep 2 turned councilors, ideally servants being one of them, and on free turns either advise your best nation or crackdown/coup a nation your rivals control, ideally servants, even if you don't care about it.

      basically bully ayys and servants any time you aren't nation building.

  196. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Managed to monopolize mars entirely, but not sure if this will bite me in the ass later. Either way, I'm swimming in resources.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just build an in low orbit defense station that is nothing but layered defense platforms.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        For what purpose?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So aliens don't just bombard your shit and destroy it with one random corvette.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That will prevent them from bombing the planet?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              They haven't bombarded my shit ever since I got those. Doesn't work on earth but on other planets the Aliens are programed to attack space stations first.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I could've sworn there were plenty of instances of people doing that and getting bombed anyways.

  197. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game is turn based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      amazing insight

  198. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many CP do I need for a typical game?

  199. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are 60 cost councilors better than 30 cost ones?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They start with higher Attributes and some more decent traits. Best to look at each candidate carefully before you pick though.

  200. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you fucking kidding me?! Because America fell apart one year into the game terrorists got a fucking nuke and used it on Paris?!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >America fell apart
      Do they get separatist states or do they just clean the control points?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just the CP's. 2023 was the year of 5 governments. Eventually it just ended up flipping to a combo or protectorate and servants and exodus controlling the media. They are now just constantly at war in Asia. The Civil War of 2023 and the perma Asia wars has dropped the US economy to $16 Trillion. I'm about to just take it out of the AI's hands because they are just burning the country to the ground to support their Asian expansion.

  201. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >when one of your 10 nemesis touches the ayy ship
    It's okay aliens, we're still willing to cooperate.

  202. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Had an astronaut I dumped all my Command in to. Big mistake. This guy had no potential of getting either criminal or government traits, completely cucking me out orgs that would actually help.

  203. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Servants have control of India, China, and half of America.
    Yeah, not doing another EU start again for a long while. All the time I spent putting it together could have been put towards actually holding the real super powers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      EU start was pretty much removed from the game
      best to disregard it as a meme

  204. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who here has done a China focused playthrough? What do you go for in the early game when you can't penetrate sinoland?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      China start is the alternative option to US start and is perfectly viable

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Grab all the countries that border China but are not rivals. Kazakhstan is a must have; Russia is optional. Quit Eurasian Union as Kazakhstan. Use Kleptocracy template on all the countries you have and then do public campaigns in China with 640 money. At the same time you should use hostile takeover to boost Persuasion for the councilor with public campaign and control nation.
      If your councilor has Unifier trait that will help too. Once you have CPs in China just abandon other countries as you go to free up CP cap. Control Taiwan executive CP and remove US as an ally. Invade as China (probably need 3 navies).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Quit Eurasian Union as Kazakhstan.
        Doesn't this result in Russia declaring war on you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never seen it happen. Nations aren't really motivated by normal shit, because it's all MIB cabals controlling everything. I saw the US invade Taiwan.

  205. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any idea why I can't federate Malaysia and Singapore? I've consolidated control of the executive point in both nations and I have a claim for Singapore in Malaysia thanks to the United Malay Nation tech.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Click your faction icon in the top right of the country info window then mouse over the check box for the alliance with Singapore, it'll tell you what you are missing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Got it, thanks anon. I needed to ally them both first.

  206. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm hanging on by my nails, russia's nuclear arsenal, and the EU's 25 trillion dollar economy lads.
    is the alien technology the boost I'm praying it is?

  207. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aliens settle their first administration in a south American shithole country
    >instantly get overthrown
    Poetry

  208. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >minimal solar system doesn't have Lagrange points
    Time to restart I guess

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good.
      Lagrage points are only useful for rocket salesmen use to sell another 'high ground' to funding commissions.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, I need to make a space hotel permanently cast in Mercury's shadow.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think Lagrange points count as being part of a planet system, so even if you can get Mercury to 50k population I don't think you can build a hotel there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need Lagrange points when you can research torch drives later in the game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        *You don't need

  209. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just detained 3 Servant Councillors. What do I do with them? I don't see a menu anywhere letting me interact with them.

    Do I just wait?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can keep detaining them to increase their sentence. Or murder them. Or learn their loyalty and turn them.

  210. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I shat my pants when the alien invasion landed and took over china and india, but they're just fucking chilling now doing nothing after I formed a worldwide coalition.

  211. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any reason to keep contributing to global research if you know you won't be the one who contribute the most?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Research bonus.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Global research bogging down can fuck you. If you let Exodus lock in mission to saturn for 35000 points in 2025, or if you don't continually turn over new techs, the world is going to fall behind and you're not going to have any weapons when ayys start showing up to orbital bombard fools.

  212. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hard to stop the consistent revolutions once it gets going...

  213. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Singapore is pretty good if you want boost. It's 8 IP with only two control points, and it gets the most boost possible, 0.4 per 2 IP. So that's up to 1.6 boost per month, doesn't take long to reach the size of the main launch sites, and it'll grow faster than the others from there.

  214. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aliens help the Protectorate or just the Servants ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They mostly help Servants but they do sometimes help Protectorate.

  215. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how do I fix the USA?
    it was controlled by nobody for ages and got fucked up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfixable at that point. It's always going to have high unrest and enemy councilors can increase unrest at little to no cost.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen worse USAs pop up after the oil crisis event
      perfectly salvageable, it'll just take a fuckload of time and effort

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do I just focus on cohesion and welfare?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't speak for what to do with the USA at that stage of the game because I don't understand the shifting priorities of the game over its course. However, if you are more ignorant than I am about the game and feel like fixing the USA is a priority then max out unity and welfare. Eventually you can shift towards more knowledge and military, always keeping some amount in welfare until you exceed 5 unity and become a full democracy.

      However, if you are going to want to use the USA as your beating stick then start checking the military tech of the rest of the worlds major powers. If they are approaching or surpass your 4.8 score and you still want to beat them with the long dick of liberty, then keep military tech maxed out the whole time in addition to welfare and unity. Make sure to get boost from your smaller nations.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not that bad.
      This is fucking bad, but it is also 2038 and at least 15 nukes have gone off. 7 of which in America.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nuked 7 times
        >still 353m population
        Nukes are pretty underwhelming.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nukes are just a delete GDP button. Next playthrough I will dismantle all nukes for nations I don't plan to hold.
          Also my god is the AI useless. America and Japan had a 5.0 military in 2025 and by 2030 they were all destroyed and Japan reverted to 4.3 miltech.

  216. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How can you tell when you've reached a nation's maximum boost or MC?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There won't be an option to invest in boost/MC once you reach the max.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's the max for boost? I know for MC it's 6 per province, 8 if it is an economic center

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          there isn't one for boost

  217. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've had like four counselors killed in the last dozen turns. How do I hunt down and kill the most dangerous piece on the board?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just out of curiosity did you start the assassinations first or were they non-provoked?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no, they were completely provoked. I was killing Servants and Protectors left and right.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          High espionage makes your councilors more difficult to detect and security harder to kill but thats obvious. Taking out ops resource generators might help too since they're used to increase the chance. Laying low every time you get detected should in theory prevent any losses since you can't target unidentified guys.

  218. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aliens establish administration in part of Russia
    >immediately invade Israel
    >Humanity First nukes them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      as god intended

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