The analog camera movement mod for this game makes it a billion times better.

The analog camera movement mod for this game makes it a billion times better.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just remap the buttons bro.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it still does not make it a good game tho

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally filtered.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *easier

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, better.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this resource trainer for warcraft makes it a billion times better.
        it's cheating, plain and simple

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          False equivalence.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is that the pre-analog aiming games are completely trivialized by the mods. They're already pretty easy with decent handle of the default controls, but with the mod you can tell something is off balance-wise. Every game until Nexus was designed with the player being shit at the controls in mind, and it also neuters the learning curve.
    I agree that the mod feels great, but just play one of the gen 3.5 games if you want analog aiming. The novelty will be gone in an hour, and you'll wish you were playing a game balanced around you being able to move correctly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weren't AC games designed to play them with the controller turned on backwards?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Amazing how that meme has persisted.

        The problem is that the pre-analog aiming games are completely trivialized by the mods. They're already pretty easy with decent handle of the default controls, but with the mod you can tell something is off balance-wise. Every game until Nexus was designed with the player being shit at the controls in mind, and it also neuters the learning curve.
        I agree that the mod feels great, but just play one of the gen 3.5 games if you want analog aiming. The novelty will be gone in an hour, and you'll wish you were playing a game balanced around you being able to move correctly

        >Every game until Nexus was designed with the player being shit at the controls in mind
        Literally what kind of thinking is this, "the game is supposed to be played badly", I learned how to play them to my style and I haven't changed since. I think most people who say anything about AC just say they can say they have an opinion, despite not having a dog in the fight.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The early games are pretty obviously balanced around the average player having less precise control than the later games, yes. It would be incredibly incompetent if the developers did not take the control scheme of a game into account when designing it
          It's extremely obvious that there's a massive leap once you have real controls, go play AC3 then Last Raven and tell me Zinaida route isn't blatantly designed with the player having more control in mind

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The early games are pretty obviously balanced around the average player having less precise control than the later games, yes.
            How can you convincingly say that when digital input was the standard? I swear there is all sorts of gymnastics and revisionism when it comes to these games.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't mean that they travelled through time to design the game relative to future control schemes. I mean that they designed the game relative to the level of control available to the player. I think it's pretty inarguable that you have more control in the dual analog setup, thus they would design those games with that in mind as well. Do you understand?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, that is just a method to play the games that exist...
        Because you can't do shoulders + face buttons + analogs when the controller is turned the correct way. But that is true of all 3D games where you end up with primary inputs spread all over + Camera/aim control.

        Most games balance this by only having one of the input areas being dominant. Usually lock on to remove camera control + dpad being used on secondary actions. Or having the shoulder do almost nothing, so you can adjust to a grip where you only input the surface of the controller, even if analog triggers killed that idea of a control scheme(because you can't really put those controllers down).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's some LotR tier fantasy being written right there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean you can use the mod if you prefer it, but I'm not sure what's fantastical about stating that it changes the way the game plays by making it easier and simpler to control.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good post. Also, let's not forget, Armored Core is an Anime Mech simulator. You are controling a giant Mech. A huge part of the gameplay and gamplay design is to simulate maneuvering a giant mech around. Having to use the shoulder buttons to look up and down and your d-pad to look left and right adds immersion. Bigger aiming areas make this process easier and the smaller ones harder. This gameplay mechanic is even tied to the mech building in the game if you think about it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It literally has nothing to do with immersion, d-pad to turn and shoulder buttons to strafe and look up/down was standard PS1 free cam controls and AC gives you complete freedom to remap them to anything which isn't the case in all the others. Which is always followed by
        >but muh PS2
        Forgetting that Armored Core 3 was in development already when Halo came out and released before Metroid Prime so no modern dual analog controls were not universally standardized when AC was still not using them.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Game is absolute banger. I always considered myself as a MechWarrior guy but after AC i dont know who i am anymore. One of the best PS1 titles.
    And frick you Froms for Frame Gride

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > And frick you Froms for Frame Gride
      Why? I liked it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with Frame Gride?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think you meant it makes it easier because you got hard filtered

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder only about 5% of AC thread participants have ever played the games. These threads are always ruined by mindbroken souls gays who cannot fathom that From ever made things besides rollslop

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've actually recently just finished AC1, PP and MoA and I have to say that was fricking fantastic I love Gen 1 so far

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        First and second generations are the best.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mod tampers with the controls of a retro game
    You didn't play the game.
    No exceptions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It makes the game better. It fixes broken controls.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The controls work, what's broken?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're too hard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Presumably his hands, brain, or both.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i have to cheat to enjoy the game, it's the default controls fault not me. can i be part of the club now?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Devs made moronic design choices back in the day, ESPECIALLY From soft, I see no problem with fixing sins of the past

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Design choices like what? What is the problem exactly?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In that post I was specifically referring to controls

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The controls work, what aspect is it you have a problem with? You say they're broken but I can boot that game up and every input will do as intended. If you have such a problem with the default layout, remap them, as the game is pretty generous in that you can remap every button.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this game worth playing or should I just skip to AC3?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AC3 is the worst one.

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