>the final boss of this 100 hour epic rpg is a guy who killed two (2) people indirectly

>the final boss of this 100 hour epic rpg is a guy who killed two (2) people indirectly
the frick were they thinking. Good thing persona 5 had threatening and dangerous villains that did actual villainy shit.

Mike Stoklasa's Worst Fan Shirt $21.68

It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14

Mike Stoklasa's Worst Fan Shirt $21.68

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moron-kun, I........

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically, you did not beat the game.

      >oh but it's okay because the true final boss is a le evil god who does nothing
      even worse

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically, you did not beat the game.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically, you did not beat the game.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"final boss"
    The true final boss is Margaret, and nothing you say can make this any less true.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are getting a sex scene with Margaret in the Persona 4 remake...right?!
      Its sad that Elizabeth got fricked but her sister didn't.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We are getting a sex scene with Margaret in the Persona 4 remake...right?!
        ?
        Why would there be a sex scene for a girl you don't romance? There's one for Sayoko but that's because she's the devil.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't date Margaret in the same way that Elizabeth gets dated, but Margaret still kisses Yu on screen, which is more to say than just about any other Persona girl. The P4 remake can easily add real dates between Yu and Margaret.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She's not supposed to be a date. Margaret's one kiss is all she'll allow herself. She is the oneesan, too mature 4 u.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The assistants are still a type of date. You still have to rank them up like all the other human girls, and they end in intimate encounters, usually more lewd than the other girls.
              Her sister put out, theres zero excuse that she can't. But at the very least I want to see Yu and Margaret actually travel somewhere together besides talking outside the same store.

              On a different note, it seems the latest Persona 5 OVA made Sae a "romance" finally.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lavenza pretty much had a tradional social link approach. You take CJ out on multiple dates, and eventually ends with Lavenza alone in your bedroom. If she wasn't well...you know... she probably would have become a special relationship character.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The excuse is that Margaret is much more professional. They might give you more chances to speak with her, but having her actually venture out to the room and go beyond the scope of her duties would be out of character for her. She's not as flighty as Elizabeth or as childish as Lavenza.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can still have her travel and stay in character. I think it makes much more sense, and probably more in character, to have her kiss the protag in a secluded location, instead of a public street. If anything that kiss shows she isn't shy or prude.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Her duty's already been fulfilled by that point so she allows herself a bit of freedom. But she's a professional by heart and she's not as curious about the outside world as Elizabeth. In fact, Margaret never actually expresses any real interest in the outside world at all in any of the games. She doesn't express it in P4, P4G, P4A, P4U, PQ or PQ2.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We fug at her place then

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am not fricking on the Velvet Room couch with Igor’s fricking eyes bulging

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd rather there not be a remake period considering how heavily they'd have to censor things, never mind reigniting the shitshow with Naoto.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          While you bring up a solid point, its inevitable that Persona 4 gets a remake. P3 can censor the beach troony, but whether the troons like it or not, Naoto has to be a biological girl that cross dresses as a boy until she comes to terms with herself. Theres no way around that, and no pronoun bullshit can change the message.
          If anything I expect Kanji's midnight scene to get changed so that he doesn't mock gays.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    persona 5‘s „villains“ unironically dindu nuffin just like in previous games
    persona players are the most woke morons and communist scum
    play angry goy
    play angry goy

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man in suit >>> random god

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does that even mean? Is killing two people indirectly not wrong to you or something?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actually it was the gas station attendant.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good job not dating Marie Sue.
    Fun fact : she is the blandest, lamest character ever written.
    Another fun fact : back in 2014 some people argued that she was a good reason to buy a PlayStation Vita!
    Final fun fact : Sony stopped handhelds after that, really makes you think!

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >old PS2 game still continues to filter normies to this day
    Glorious.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean there's one truth. You either figure out what's actually going on or your don't. If you fail to figure it out then you can't advance so of course you need to figure out the true perp. Why would you get rewarded for failing to figure it out?

      It's not even that hard to come to that conclusion. There are only two plausible suspects and one of them is Dojima. And while a lot of people would have preferred that route, there is no way he would have failed to protect Nanako from Namatame if he were the perp, since he would have already figured out the mechanics of the Midnight Channel.

      In Persona 4 after the first two murders happen each subsequent dungeon arc ends with a silhouette figure in the foggy town streets dismayed there wasn't a dead body. But in the final confrontation with Adachi, he says the world doesn't matter and he wanted everyone to turn into shadows. It's real funny seeing how many people still believe possessed December dungeons Adachi at face value. Adachi spends the entire game waiting for a new dead body, when one appears with the copycat murder he insists the real murderer is out there. This we know is because he wants Namatame to be blamed for the two other crimes Adachi committed, this absolving him of his past 2 murders if Namatame takes the fall.

      When you encounter Adachi in the December dungeon he has spent time alone with the higher being Fog God disco ball who used him as his avatar to spread shadows. In none but one bad ending do shadows come to reality, only failing the December dungeon deadline triggers that. The accomplice ending doesn't end with shadows either. Adachi's statements while possessed in December are half-truths, he wanted Namatame to be caught and even send you death threat letters personally when he figured out P4 protagonist was foiling him. Adachi simply wanted to keep his social status the entire game and 90% of the fanbase injected with Reddit and moronEra syndrome can't figure out his real motivations.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He only wants Namatame to take the fall in December because he's ready to be done with the game. For him it was a fun pastime, watching the city get embroiled in a farce he created. That's why he threw Mitsuo in the TV too, because the police wanted to pin the first two murders on Mitsuo and be done with it, and Adachi's game would end. Him wanting to turn the world into Shadows is because he ended up liking the TV World more than he thought, and he can command Shadows at will. He does impulsive things for fun, and he thought a world of Shadows would be fun to do.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dated a girl just like Chie and my life has been a continual disaster since she left

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The story kinda falls apart near the end tbh. Even the Adachi reveal is so poorly made, you're basically forced to select his name from the list or else you get bad ending. Now maybe they fixed this in Golden since he gets a social link and all, I just never could get into version since they butchered Chie's voice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean there's one truth. You either figure out what's actually going on or your don't. If you fail to figure it out then you can't advance so of course you need to figure out the true perp. Why would you get rewarded for failing to figure it out?

      It's not even that hard to come to that conclusion. There are only two plausible suspects and one of them is Dojima. And while a lot of people would have preferred that route, there is no way he would have failed to protect Nanako from Namatame if he were the perp, since he would have already figured out the mechanics of the Midnight Channel.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There are only two plausible suspects and one of them is Dojima.
        What gets me is the final bit of evidence Naoto uses to pin Adachi as the killer is so contrived it's unbelievable, especially when there's much more conclusive evidence that points to either Adachi or Dojima almost equally.

        Take for example the situation around the kidnappings: Namatame has been kidnapping people and throwing them into the TV World. But not just anyone can do that, only someone with the power to enter the TV World can do that. And what is this power? The power of a Persona. Yosuke demonstrates this early on; he tries putting his hand in the display TV at Junes before he gets his Persona and nothing happens. But after he gets his Persona the portal opens. So therefore the kidnapper (and by proxy also the killer) must also have the power of a Persona.

        Now take the case of Mitsuo. He killed Morooka through bludgeoning him to death, then hung him on a water tower in the same manner as the first two deaths. But the police caught Mitsuo really quickly, and easily linked him to the murder. Inaba PD isn't actually incompetent. But after Mitsuo was arrested, he ended up in the TV World and appeared on the Midnight Channel anyway. Which means he somehow got in. He could've had the key, a Persona, but Shadow Mitsuo appearing proves he doesn't. Which means someone at the police station pushed him in. Namatame sure as hell wouldn't be able to get into a holding cell with an arrested murderer, so the person who pushed him in must be the killer, AND the killer must be a cop.

        The warning letters are the third clue. No neighbors raised any alarms from suspicious individuals prowling around, and the letters didn't have a return address (so they couldn't go through the postal system), so they had to be hand-delivered. Which means the killer was someone who frequented the Dojima household. Which narrows it down to Dojima and Adachi. Beyond that it's circumstantial evidence at best.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In the absence of hard evidence, circumstantial evidence is all anyone reasonably has. Remember, ultimately, Adachi was never, the initial perp was never directly involved with any of the successive incidents after Konishi's death. It's one of P4's many weaknesses as a murder mystery. Ultimately, there could NEVER be any sort of concrete tie between the original perp and the subsequent incidents. There just wasn't any. There was never a real motive for the original culprit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Remember, ultimately, Adachi was never, the initial perp was never directly involved with any of the successive incidents after Konishi's death.
            That was sort of the point. Mitsuo is the "suspect", the copycat killer. Namatame is the "lead", who left the trail of clues to follow. But ultimately he's a false lead, and the fact that when interrogated he doesn't remember throwing Saki and Mayumi in proves the existence of a third party that killed those two, and sent the warning letters. You're lead around in different directions, but like how the lyrics for Shadow World say "lies come in many forms, and some look like truths", the final truths behind the case are obscured by lies and misdirections.

            And I don't like the circumstantial evidence because it's fricking stupid. Naoto claims that Adachi's reaction at Dojima's crash indicates he has knowledge of the situation beyond what they thought he had, but the Investigation Team told Dojima and Adachi everything about the TV World when Yu was taken to the police station for questioning. The two cops didn't believe them there, but Namatame's van having a big TV in it would lead credence to those claims. And Adachi's also acted the lazy moron for the better part of a year, him saying some stupid shit in the heat of the moment wouldn't be out of character at all. He could've easily still acted confused by Naoto's accusations, or diverted to their explanation on what happened. In fact, if you choose Dojima the game says all the evidence lines up, but still denies you anyway because he's got Nanako, and the killer CLEARLY wouldn't be caring for a child. So ultimately you can get it in two tries by choosing Dojima, then Adachi.

            Naoto's just an awful detective who got lucky in her guess.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean if you insist on not choosing the correct killer, then you're just gonna end up at the wrong answer. The issue with Dojima is that he has even less motive than Adachi does. If Adachi were the original mastermind, then Nanako never would have been put in the TV. The moment Nanako appeared on the Midnight Channel, Dojima would have known to protect her. He sure as frick wouldn't have left her at the house alone. Unless you're implying that he wanted her to get thrown in.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What I'm implying is that someone who threw people into the TV isn't someone who particularly cares about human life, but could still care for their family. Adachi ends up somewhat caring for that old woman that mistakes him for her son and annoys him with her cooking, but he still ends up helping her out anyway. If Dojima were the killer then Nanako could be an unexpected twist as a choice, but I don't recall either cop paying attention to the Midnight Channel at all anyway. Adachi just set Namatame up and watched things play out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There can ultimately only be one killer. Again, if you choose the wrong perp then you can't progress. It's not like the protagonist can just choose what reality is. Even if the reasoning is flimsy, it would have been equally flimsy had it been the other way around.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's why I keep looking for something more definitive than Naoto's flimsy evidence and UI spoilers with Adachi's unusual Arcana and inability to progress it beyond rank 6 until you unveil the truth. There might not be any, but I keep looking, because Naoto's is just that fricking stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again, the way the game is built up, any and all evidence would be flimsy at best. Here's the reality of the situation:

                1) Adachi happened be assigned to Yamano's security detail by pure coincidence. It was a coincidence she was the hot topic of the week and it was a coincidence that she appeared on the Midnight Channel. The murder wasn't premdiated and Adachi only assaulted her in the heat of the moment. Even if it were Dojima, it's unlikely that it would be all that different. There's no substantial motive for an unrelated third party to murder her for having an affair with a politician.
                2) Konishi's death was just as abrupt an act. There's no real motive for anyone to kill her. She was the one who discovered the body, but there's no way she could have learned anything just from seeing it because Yamano died via supernatural means. Whatever she might have seen on the body would never have pointed her or anyone else to the perp. And in fact, because the ones who got the body down were the police, Yamano would have been the least threatening relevant individual to the perp. What the hell could she glean that the cops wouldn't? She's just a random high schooler.
                3) All subsequent incidents are completely and utterly unrelated to the first two murders. There is absolutely no reason for the perp to want Yukiko thrown into the TV. Adachi almost definitely has no connection to her and Dojima would have no motive either, unless Yukiko was the one who ran over his wife.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The true issue is that none of these incidents are particularly relevant to anything. It's impossible to glean motivation from any of them because none of the victims are in any way connected. This means you're left with one of two means: physical evidence or circumstantial evidence. Physical evidence is pointless; the first two victims were killed by their own Shadows. I suppose maybe the perp could have dropped a hair or something on them during the assaults, but the police would have caught that before the IT did. Unfortunately, physical evidence is off the table by the very nature of how the game is designed because there is no physical evidence that the IT would catch that the police can't. The IT have no forensics ability, nor do they have access to the bodies.

                Thus, the only evidence available to the IT at all is circumstantial. Without any means of interrogating suspects or witnesses, nor any way to search for evidence in the real world, all they can do is wait for someone to slip up. No evidence in the TV World is worth anything.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >him saying some stupid shit in the heat of the moment wouldn't be out of character at all
              To add to that, it's also a common trope in JRPG to have cast members discuss secrets right in front of a crowd of deaf frickers. But this one time Adachi gets a pass and gets included in the not-so-secret discussion.
              Persona 5 handled it better with the pancake situation.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is why people make fun of jrpgs because they always end up killing god

    its like they knew the hyperautistic fanbase wouldnt be satisfied with adachi so they have to throw in a giant eyeball that represents the truth of the world

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah a pervert PE teacher. Such a villain, much threatening, wow

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He physically injured students, black mailed students, threatened rape with students, and drove a student to suicide. Hes really fricked up bro

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, though, as a game built around a "murder mystery", P4 is pretty disappointing. You can't really build a mystery in a game where the player has almost no real agency. Plus there's no real way for the player to figure out what's going on ahead of time since the perp's actions were completely spontaneous and had little real motive. It's impossible to figure out with the clues the game gives you that Adachi was responsible for the deaths of Yamano and Konishi.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Good thing persona 5 had threatening and dangerous villains that did actual villainy shit.
    What an insanely low bar.
    Shido barely does anything for most of the game, then when he's finally relevant they have a poorly written exposition dump to explain why he's the bad guy and how he was totally connected to all the previous bosses you fought (even though there was no indication of that up until that point).
    The SIU director is one of the worst characters ever put into a JRPG, all of his scenes could have been cut.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God I want to have sex with Naoto really fricking bad

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Her voice is pure sex.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trying to sound like a young boy is pure sex to you, gay?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >projecting weeb homosexual

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Adachi didn't even kill those two girls, Izanami did. Adachi literally didn't kill anyone, it's he like tossed them off a boat and someone with a gun was waiting under the water to shoot them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Contrary to Jigsaws belief if you put someone in a death trap deliberately and they die that’s murder.
      The reporter you could argue he didn’t know but he was still happy to leave her there and he pushed her in while trying to sexually assault her.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        iirc in the anime he was legit in shock and vomited when they found the body of the first lady, and it's implied that he goes off the deep end after that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you toss someone overboard and they drown, you're still responsible for their death. Adachi knew the TV World was bad news, and while Mayumi was him testing the waters, Saki was a deliberate act of malice. He never had any intentions of going in himself, nor did he know if there was an exit or not.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Competed it, but did not get the real ending, I watched the anime to watch that. Watching the main character getting the babes in that club scene.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >find out it wasn't the mail man who was killing all the people
    >think who it was the whole time
    >someone who knows where i live
    >someone who speaks to me a lot
    >someone who likes TVs
    >pick who the real killer is
    >....
    >........
    >...........
    >Nanako Dojima
    That fricking little b***h!

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I just beat Persona 4 for the first time a couple months ago and felt many of the mysteries of the game to be either dull or boring, especially just after finishing P3Reload. Adachi has to be one of the most overrated characters of all time. His motives are nothing and he is a filler villain at best. Also the fog god that was pretty much pumping people's gas all year was also stupid. If there ever was a game that was carried by it's music and gameplay its Persona 4.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nooooooo but heckin chudachi is literally me
      In honesty, Adachi isn't that bad, he's your goofy detective bro. Persona 4 doesn't try to be a super deep complex mystery game, 90% of the time it is comedic.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    guess it really is true that any kind of bait no matter how bad will always work on Ganker until the heat death of the universe

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know the real final boss was Nanako
    anon...

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Izanami feels kinda small time compared to other Nusona final bosses as well. Nyx was gonna collapse the Collective Unconscious and wipe out all life on the planet, while Persona 5 taking place in a major metropolitan city amps up the scale. Everything in P4 takes place in a tiny rural town where the most interesting thing around is a shopping mall. Izanami's whole plan is just "Okay, so I'll make TVs into gateways to the Collective Unconscious and hope something happens." Like I don't even think she intended for the whole murder mystery thing to happen at all. All she did was give three random outsiders the power to enter TVs. She didn't even intend for those who entered the TV world to obtain Personas. That was outside her expectations.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She pretty clearly lays out her plan was to cover the world in fog and put everyone in a bubble of their own comforting lies instead of the Truth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the whole rural japanese setting is to reinforce the "wow nothing ever happens out here" narrative the game has. when the protagonist gets to Inaba he was well poised to have the most boring year of his life before the TV shit happened. every character and social link in the game involves the theme of being stagnant and stuck in a rut, which is embodied by Inaba as a whole. hell the Midnight Channel is the entire town subconsciously hoping that something exciting would happen, and the fact that the powers are given to outsiders is just more symbolism.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        P4 isn't even rural, its pretty suburban. It has decently packed neighborhoods and big stores like Junes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't stop Adachi and Yosuke throwing a sharty for having to move there

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 4 Golden Reloaded will be GOTY

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 3/4 are more like 60-70. Persona 5 is 100h

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *