>don't turn evil
Which means that they haven't been spiritually despoiled by their new beliefs yet, ergo they should be killed to protect their souls from the inevitable consequences of Evil.
Nope, there are male followers and even clerics of her.
I vaguely recall something about women only rituals where men could transform to participate in.
But that was just Greenwood's magical realm. Honestly its likely why he hates her these days. reminders of past horny cringe like that.
trust me, greenwood is still as proud about his horny retardacy today as he was 10 years ago. I just discovered the magical realm of forgotten realms recently, he still posts about it on twitter/online
>Just follow Eilistraee if you want drow booty. She literally dances around naked in the moonlight!
I want Drow wearing spider-web-lingerie, not nudists.
Doesn't drizzt worship her? And a bunch of other named male drow in various media? I can't think of any male priests or clerics though (besides the ones in my games, played by players who didn't read drizzt and gave no fucks but wanted the naked lady as their holy symbol).
>Doesn't drizzt worship her
No. He's on good terms with her clergy, but Drizzt historically derives his divine power from Mielikki (and worshiped her for over a century -- it's a major plot point in his story). It's not clear if he still worships her, makes offerings or what, but he's formally her Chosen, widely referred to as her champion, but he doesn't acknowledge any patron god.
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Given how Salvatore's got a fedora in his closet I'd bet money that if Drizzt does worship any power then it's WotC editorial mandate and Salvatore copes and seethes and headcanons that Drizzt doesn't (and even thought Drizzt is an atheist enlightened by his own intelligence won't end up in the Wall of the Faithless) and refuses to include all but the bare minimum mention of worshiping any power.
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Now I'm picturing that elf in a fedora saying m' lady but mockingly towards Drow women.
Actually being some sort of antifeminist makes sense for a male Drow.
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>Actually being some sort of antifeminist makes sense for a male Drow.
Drizzt fucks human women, which is basically the gravest insult possible for drow women. See also Dahlia's brain damage over his dick being for humans.
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>Drizzt is an atheist enlightened by his own intelligence won't end up in the Wall of the Faithless
He's also a literal Chosen, so no, he's not going to end up in the Wall.
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>Drizzt won't be X >no anon Drizzt won't be X!!!!!11111
Thank you for your scintillating addition to the conversation anon. Very nice. Utterly fascinating. Truly intellectually stimulation contribution. Your post genuinely changes everything. Groundbreaking observation that cuts to the quick of the topic at hand.
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You know you can be an atheist and still be fine with gods and religions in a fictional context, right? Fuck's sake, Salvatore wrote the Cleric Quintet, where the main character's big arc was to get over his crisis of faith and becoming a whole-hearted believer in his deity.
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I know that, anon, but like . . . I think it's significant that Cadderly's power is Gond. And look all of his other fiction. Dude's not really leaving his baggage at the door. Look at what he's done to Eilistree.
There's a lot of atheists who are not okay with religions in a fictional context. And there's a lot of people who use fiction to push their beliefs and agendas in a really shitty way and it's just a generally shitty thing to do altogether.
>You're literally not allowed to be part of her religion as a man.
That's bullshit, and Eilistraee herself aids men just like she aids women.
>following the gaslight chud goddess
You're referring to the one-time shapechange into a woman ritual that males had to undergo as a ceremony to become clerics. That used to not only not be permanent, but it was caused by her nature as a deity being affiliated to motherhood and males finding it hard to fully connect with her in terms of magic, and it's long become no longer necessary or a requirement, as Eilistraee and her faith overcame that. On the contrary, Eilistraee offers mtf and ftm transformations to whoever wants it, according to Greenwood.
threat of being killed mostly.
then the following generations getting wealthy doing the same to other outsiders.
its literally a faith founded by a bandit, not complicated.
He was a warlord and a pedophile, if he were alive today he would be on Ganker, unless he was born in Africa in which case he would have done o.k. for himself.
He was a warlord in self defense, he only started attacking the pagans after they confiscated the possessions of the muslims in Mecca and wanted to sell it off in Syria. Also everybody was a pedophile till 100 years ago. It was normal back then to marry off anybody that got through puberty. Even then his youngest wife loved him a lot and was important in the muslim community even after the prophet died.
>self defense
lmao
It was also 'normal' to marry rich old ladies as a means of social advancement. The fact that it was normal doesn't make him any less of a bitch.
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She proposed to him though. Also funny you call him that when he led a religion that is now followed by a quarter of the world. No man be it Alexander or Ghenghis Khan achieved so much aside from maybe Moses and Jesus.
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>a quarter of the world.
Yea, as an American I'd like to apologize for that, after WW1 the arab world was basically begging to be westernized, then we did you dirty so you got all stupid and regressive.
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It’s fine I’d rather be ‘stupid and regressive’ than american. At least my children won’t be told to become trannies by their elementary school teacher.
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Hope they don't get bombed. If they're lucky, they'll be resettled in some norther European country where they can be stupid and regressive and ALSO be told to become trannies.
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If the europeans were succesful with that they wouldn’t constantly seethe about it lol.
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Well yea, they don't want you, and in most cases it isn't their fault that you're homeless (it's America's fault and Russia's fault and Israel's fault). You fuck up their communities by being so stupid and regressive and mad at the west, and you fuck up their economies by failing to support yourselves, it's just a bum deal for them (and a good deal for you).
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They seem quite happy with joining the americans in fucking up the middle east so it’s hard to sympathize with them.
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They've never been happy about any of that, they just didnt have a say (to the point of not having a say in how nato deploys their troops), it's part of why they're so pissy.
The reason you can't sympathize with non-muslims is because you lack any moral foundation, all you have is islam, and islam says not to sympathize with non-muslims. Still, I hope your kids survive the bombs and get resettled somewhere decent, because none of this is their fualt.
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Witnessed.
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>They've never been happy about any of that
Which is exactly why they join the all-volunteer military force they know will be deployed there, are loud in their support of said movements, and once there do shit like keep torture prisons or ear necklaces and even worse things that makes the other genocidal bastards say "okay this guy shouldn't get his special pin afterwards".
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We have no problem sympathizing with non-muslims. If we were so horrible there wouldn’t be loads of pre-islamic minorities still left in the middle east. Also you as an american are the last person to patronize others about sympathy. You’re a nation of psychopaths led by worse psychopaths that drown the world in blood for the military industrial complex.
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>If we were so horrible there wouldn’t be loads of pre-islamic minorities still left in the middle east.
There are barely any left and there are semi-regular muslim genocide attempts (see: Yazidis) interspersed with systematic persecution and second-class citizenship.
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Yazidis were attacked by ISIS who were fought by more or less all muslims in the middle east. Also compared to Europe and America (practically genocided into non-existence) the minorities in the Middle east are doing fine.
My dude, raiding merchant caravans for a living makes you a bandit. The very Qur'an mentions the many caravans raided by Muhammad.
He was a bandit king and cult leader with mediocre understanding of other religions such as Christianity.
Where in the Quran does it mention the many caravans he raided? Again he raided the pagan’s caravans and made war on them because they confiscated the possessions of the muslims. Before this the pagans also tortured or otherwise abused arabs that had become muslim. In other words he attacked the pagans in self defense.
Yeah maybe the first gen in like 600 ad when they were part of the oghuz tribes, but they were heavily mixed with Scythians and sarmatians and shit. Turkic clans in the medieval era were very diverse. They had some blonde hair blue eyes white people, some Asians, some mixed hapas, it’s pretty interesting.
After the turks migrated from Siberia or Mongolia or wherever people now agree they are from, and made it to Central Asia, they became mixed quickly, due to them not caring about race and gladly incorporating and blending with the scythian tribes that lived there before them.
D and D is a game of pretend. When you played cops and robbers, did you expect the cop kid to recite the penal code by heart? Cowboys and Indians,. did the kids playing Indians have to learn Cherokee code talking? or was a spirited "woo woo woo" enough for the game's purposes?
I don't know what you mean by dishonest, it's a game of pretend. We're pretending. Nobody is trying to fool someone into accepting St. Cuthbert as IRL gospel.
Because of this thread I unfortunately now know that muslims on reddit think they invented Aristotle.
If you ever want to start an argument between Muslims and Hindus, or Arabs and Persians, ask who invented algebra.
I know that, anon, but like . . . I think it's significant that Cadderly's power is Gond. And look all of his other fiction. Dude's not really leaving his baggage at the door. Look at what he's done to Eilistree.
There's a lot of atheists who are not okay with religions in a fictional context. And there's a lot of people who use fiction to push their beliefs and agendas in a really shitty way and it's just a generally shitty thing to do altogether.
Elistree was a terrible, retarded idea anyway, literally made to #NotAllDrow and win internet arguments.
>anon discovers that idiots exists
they all come in a all shapes and sizes,, big smal,,, thin, large, white, black, arab, indian.. the list just goes on
due to the Law of Big Numbers™ theres bound to be an idiot somwhere who thinks some outrageous shit you can only imagine, stuff that you'd get by throwing darts to a board
there's probably an indian in poland who thinks that MLK was chinese
>willingly follow evil religion
yes, kill on sight.
>don't turn evil
Which means that they haven't been spiritually despoiled by their new beliefs yet, ergo they should be killed to protect their souls from the inevitable consequences of Evil.
Yeah, there are no gray areas here.
Listen anon, Lolth says kill your enemies and you get to tap Drow ass.
Not passing this up because it upsets you.
>posts a priest of shar that has no association with lolth
retard
Drow ass is Drow ass.
Only one kind of drow ass dance naked under the full moon and aren't just as likely to kill you as fuck you.
Some people prefer to live dangerously and the Hispanicy danger spidergirls, okay? Please don't shame a fellow king for his preference.
Just follow Eilistraee if you want drow booty. She literally dances around naked in the moonlight!
Damn youngsters got spiders in their brains
didn't male followers of Eilistraee slowly became women?
Maybe if they're Drow since elves can just change gender at will.
Nope, there are male followers and even clerics of her.
I vaguely recall something about women only rituals where men could transform to participate in.
But that was just Greenwood's magical realm. Honestly its likely why he hates her these days. reminders of past horny cringe like that.
Greenwood doesn't hate her at all
trust me, greenwood is still as proud about his horny retardacy today as he was 10 years ago. I just discovered the magical realm of forgotten realms recently, he still posts about it on twitter/online
stop, my penis can only get so erect
No, but they're required to be women for a few months in order to fully participate in her ceremonies (notably the moonlight hunting orgies).
Not sure about that, but 5e has some new lore that certain elves can be gifted with the ability to change their sex at-will.
GREENWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
>Just follow Eilistraee if you want drow booty. She literally dances around naked in the moonlight!
I want Drow wearing spider-web-lingerie, not nudists.
>following the gaslight chud goddess
At least Lolth is upfront about her hatred of men
You're literally not allowed to be part of her religion as a man.
Doesn't drizzt worship her? And a bunch of other named male drow in various media? I can't think of any male priests or clerics though (besides the ones in my games, played by players who didn't read drizzt and gave no fucks but wanted the naked lady as their holy symbol).
Maybe in later books or something gay like that, in the original stories he worshipped a surface hunting goddess unrelated to ANY elves iirc
>Doesn't drizzt worship her
No. He's on good terms with her clergy, but Drizzt historically derives his divine power from Mielikki (and worshiped her for over a century -- it's a major plot point in his story). It's not clear if he still worships her, makes offerings or what, but he's formally her Chosen, widely referred to as her champion, but he doesn't acknowledge any patron god.
Given how Salvatore's got a fedora in his closet I'd bet money that if Drizzt does worship any power then it's WotC editorial mandate and Salvatore copes and seethes and headcanons that Drizzt doesn't (and even thought Drizzt is an atheist enlightened by his own intelligence won't end up in the Wall of the Faithless) and refuses to include all but the bare minimum mention of worshiping any power.
Now I'm picturing that elf in a fedora saying m' lady but mockingly towards Drow women.
Actually being some sort of antifeminist makes sense for a male Drow.
>Actually being some sort of antifeminist makes sense for a male Drow.
Drizzt fucks human women, which is basically the gravest insult possible for drow women. See also Dahlia's brain damage over his dick being for humans.
>Drizzt is an atheist enlightened by his own intelligence won't end up in the Wall of the Faithless
He's also a literal Chosen, so no, he's not going to end up in the Wall.
>Drizzt won't be X
>no anon Drizzt won't be X!!!!!11111
Thank you for your scintillating addition to the conversation anon. Very nice. Utterly fascinating. Truly intellectually stimulation contribution. Your post genuinely changes everything. Groundbreaking observation that cuts to the quick of the topic at hand.
You know you can be an atheist and still be fine with gods and religions in a fictional context, right? Fuck's sake, Salvatore wrote the Cleric Quintet, where the main character's big arc was to get over his crisis of faith and becoming a whole-hearted believer in his deity.
I know that, anon, but like . . . I think it's significant that Cadderly's power is Gond. And look all of his other fiction. Dude's not really leaving his baggage at the door. Look at what he's done to Eilistree.
There's a lot of atheists who are not okay with religions in a fictional context. And there's a lot of people who use fiction to push their beliefs and agendas in a really shitty way and it's just a generally shitty thing to do altogether.
>You're literally not allowed to be part of her religion as a man.
That's bullshit, and Eilistraee herself aids men just like she aids women.
>following the gaslight chud goddess
You're referring to the one-time shapechange into a woman ritual that males had to undergo as a ceremony to become clerics. That used to not only not be permanent, but it was caused by her nature as a deity being affiliated to motherhood and males finding it hard to fully connect with her in terms of magic, and it's long become no longer necessary or a requirement, as Eilistraee and her faith overcame that. On the contrary, Eilistraee offers mtf and ftm transformations to whoever wants it, according to Greenwood.
then why did people covert to Islam and stayed with it?
threat of being killed mostly.
then the following generations getting wealthy doing the same to other outsiders.
its literally a faith founded by a bandit, not complicated.
That’s bullshit though. The prophet was a shepard, turned merchant, turned community leader who had to fight off the degenerate pagans.
He was a warlord and a pedophile, if he were alive today he would be on Ganker, unless he was born in Africa in which case he would have done o.k. for himself.
He was a warlord in self defense, he only started attacking the pagans after they confiscated the possessions of the muslims in Mecca and wanted to sell it off in Syria. Also everybody was a pedophile till 100 years ago. It was normal back then to marry off anybody that got through puberty. Even then his youngest wife loved him a lot and was important in the muslim community even after the prophet died.
>self defense
lmao
It was also 'normal' to marry rich old ladies as a means of social advancement. The fact that it was normal doesn't make him any less of a bitch.
She proposed to him though. Also funny you call him that when he led a religion that is now followed by a quarter of the world. No man be it Alexander or Ghenghis Khan achieved so much aside from maybe Moses and Jesus.
>a quarter of the world.
Yea, as an American I'd like to apologize for that, after WW1 the arab world was basically begging to be westernized, then we did you dirty so you got all stupid and regressive.
It’s fine I’d rather be ‘stupid and regressive’ than american. At least my children won’t be told to become trannies by their elementary school teacher.
Hope they don't get bombed. If they're lucky, they'll be resettled in some norther European country where they can be stupid and regressive and ALSO be told to become trannies.
If the europeans were succesful with that they wouldn’t constantly seethe about it lol.
Well yea, they don't want you, and in most cases it isn't their fault that you're homeless (it's America's fault and Russia's fault and Israel's fault). You fuck up their communities by being so stupid and regressive and mad at the west, and you fuck up their economies by failing to support yourselves, it's just a bum deal for them (and a good deal for you).
They seem quite happy with joining the americans in fucking up the middle east so it’s hard to sympathize with them.
They've never been happy about any of that, they just didnt have a say (to the point of not having a say in how nato deploys their troops), it's part of why they're so pissy.
The reason you can't sympathize with non-muslims is because you lack any moral foundation, all you have is islam, and islam says not to sympathize with non-muslims. Still, I hope your kids survive the bombs and get resettled somewhere decent, because none of this is their fualt.
Witnessed.
>They've never been happy about any of that
Which is exactly why they join the all-volunteer military force they know will be deployed there, are loud in their support of said movements, and once there do shit like keep torture prisons or ear necklaces and even worse things that makes the other genocidal bastards say "okay this guy shouldn't get his special pin afterwards".
We have no problem sympathizing with non-muslims. If we were so horrible there wouldn’t be loads of pre-islamic minorities still left in the middle east. Also you as an american are the last person to patronize others about sympathy. You’re a nation of psychopaths led by worse psychopaths that drown the world in blood for the military industrial complex.
>If we were so horrible there wouldn’t be loads of pre-islamic minorities still left in the middle east.
There are barely any left and there are semi-regular muslim genocide attempts (see: Yazidis) interspersed with systematic persecution and second-class citizenship.
Yazidis were attacked by ISIS who were fought by more or less all muslims in the middle east. Also compared to Europe and America (practically genocided into non-existence) the minorities in the Middle east are doing fine.
My dude, raiding merchant caravans for a living makes you a bandit. The very Qur'an mentions the many caravans raided by Muhammad.
He was a bandit king and cult leader with mediocre understanding of other religions such as Christianity.
Where in the Quran does it mention the many caravans he raided? Again he raided the pagan’s caravans and made war on them because they confiscated the possessions of the muslims. Before this the pagans also tortured or otherwise abused arabs that had become muslim. In other words he attacked the pagans in self defense.
There's no way that's a real picture of a Green and a Turk. Cameras weren't that good in 1255.
it's probably colorized version of original black and white picture
The Seljuk turkics were not that Asian. They were literally white crackers and hapas.
They definitely were central Asian turks; at least the first gen were. They blanda upp'd pretty fast.
Yeah maybe the first gen in like 600 ad when they were part of the oghuz tribes, but they were heavily mixed with Scythians and sarmatians and shit. Turkic clans in the medieval era were very diverse. They had some blonde hair blue eyes white people, some Asians, some mixed hapas, it’s pretty interesting.
After the turks migrated from Siberia or Mongolia or wherever people now agree they are from, and made it to Central Asia, they became mixed quickly, due to them not caring about race and gladly incorporating and blending with the scythian tribes that lived there before them.
Probably 900ad onward they were mixed with whites, Asians and hapas.by 1250 doe they were prob all looking like modern turks/Anatolian natives
>group takes over region that has an evil religion
>converts to it
Why did this keep happening?
Alliance Marriages.
>converted to an evil religion
>they don't turn evil
Why the hell not?
Anon, the religions that people convert to are all evil, no one ever converts to a good religion.
My ancestor on the left. Also Islam is God’s last religion chuds. Either join us or have fun in hell.
Traitors are worse than any other foes.
well i don't know i think that godzilla-sized murderbot 3000 over there seems a tad more concerning
Trying to pretend religions in most published D&D settings have anything but a stylistic resemblance to real world religions is dishonest.
The fact that they even resemble real world religions is silly.
D and D is a game of pretend. When you played cops and robbers, did you expect the cop kid to recite the penal code by heart? Cowboys and Indians,. did the kids playing Indians have to learn Cherokee code talking? or was a spirited "woo woo woo" enough for the game's purposes?
I don't know what you mean by dishonest, it's a game of pretend. We're pretending. Nobody is trying to fool someone into accepting St. Cuthbert as IRL gospel.
If you ever want to start an argument between Muslims and Hindus, or Arabs and Persians, ask who invented algebra.
Elistree was a terrible, retarded idea anyway, literally made to #NotAllDrow and win internet arguments.
This picture looks kind of homoerotic.
Who is top and who is bottom?
they're both switch, everyone is equal under the light of Allah
Because of this thread I unfortunately now know that muslims on reddit think they invented Aristotle.
>anon discovers that idiots exists
they all come in a all shapes and sizes,, big smal,,, thin, large, white, black, arab, indian.. the list just goes on
due to the Law of Big Numbers™ theres bound to be an idiot somwhere who thinks some outrageous shit you can only imagine, stuff that you'd get by throwing darts to a board
there's probably an indian in poland who thinks that MLK was chinese