The LoV aesthetic sucks. This gun just looks like some giant rectangle oper8r tacticool bullshit.

The LoV aesthetic sucks. This gun just looks like some giant rectangle oper8r tacticool bullshit. The tank looks like a giant moon buggy. and the trikes Im not even going to go into.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Allah please give us a /WH/ board
    Please spare us from this living hell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Warhammer threads are the only threads on this board where people still talk about games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're here forever anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Allah please give us a /WH/ board
      it's called /tg/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron /tg/ has been primarily a Warhammer board since the day it was created. Get an original complaint, newfag. We were probably posting here before you could even play traditional games you stupid fucking baby.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We
        lol
        lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The
          >We
          meme is a newfag 4chan meme fuck off.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whatever cope helps you sleep at night I didn’t ask

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      still better than the endless wave of furry circlejerking calling itself "worldbuilding"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"worldbuilding" thread
        >its just Ganker shit because none of them actually play

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is literally a Warhammer and Magic Containment Board.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /tg/ is the warham containment board, newfren

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is literally a Warhammer and Magic Containment Board.

        Magic Mondays had such a small splash as to be barely recorded anywhere, whereas Warhammer Wednesdays was cited by m00t as the exact reason why he finally caved.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TG is a warhammer board. Any other topic is just begrudgingly tolerated.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him for he told the truth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous.

      /tg/ was created for Warhammer, and back in the better days when /tg/ got shit done and was considered objectively better, /tg/ was 95% Warhammer related.
      The loss of WH related content percentage has directly coincided with the loss of total board quality.
      I mean, what would /tg/ be then, if you removed WH from tg? A whole bunch of extreme low effort posts vaguely about DnD, typically just for cheesecake dumping, where you can't tell what is AI generated, and what is just brainrot posting about the next streamer, pretending they play not-DnD games, or making up stories for you's.
      There'd be one general for MtG, one for Chess, one for board games, one for Lewd RPG's, and one for historicals. None of them would see any traffic.
      Warhammer related content is what founded this board, is what gave /tg/ all of its memories and cultural glories, and is one of the few things left able to actually provide vaguely interesting threads, discourse, and getting the occasional thing done once in a blue moon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > I mean, what would /tg/ be then, if you removed WH from tg?
        A board about traditional games instead of pretending to be one while parasitizing the interest in a single franchise. This post is an argument for changing /tg/ to /wh/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ban threads complaining about a random warhammer model that isn't even out yet tbh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No you don’t get it /tg/ was created for Warhammer 600 years ago so that means today you can spam all the low effort, shitty, regurgitated threads forever nobody cares. Which is funny because when quests were banished to /tg/ they were killed for “board quality” which meant more space for Warhammer threads like this

      Remember when we had an entire two years straight of “how would X fare in 40k?”

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This isn’t a “low effort, shitty, regurgitated thread”, though; it’s a discussion about the aesthetic of miniatures, which is VERY important to wargamers.
        Also, banishing Quests was stupid and hypocritical (because they’re at least as, if not more, /tg/ than CYOA and Jumpchain).
        And didn’t that spam turn out to be literally one demented retard?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And didn’t that spam turn out to be literally one demented retard?
          Methinks that hasn't changed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We’ll, at least he’s not posting “how would X fare in 40k” anymore.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How many threads do you think we’ve had complaining about the votann and the squats in a unique way since they’ve been released that couldn’t have been contained in the 8 generals Warhammer have?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but it's funny watching OP get BTFO in those. He makes the threads to get bashing but like how many replies to OP criticize OP's idea of "oper8r tacticool", many of those have OP bashed the same way. Total masochist asking for more punishment each time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And didn’t that spam turn out to be literally one demented retard?
          The Ganker mods once revealed almost every hate thread on the board was from one guy. He'd do it for months for one game then a new game would come out and he'd start doing it for that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyone else ever think it's just one anon screaming about "paypigs" and "primaris" in the 40k threads?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some anons on Ganker also found out that all the blacked porn threads getting spammed there are also from one loser from discord. Dunno why mentally ill freaks are drawn to this shithole or allowed to post on it seemingly indefinitely, but it happens way too often.

            Anyone else ever think it's just one anon screaming about "paypigs" and "primaris" in the 40k threads?

            It probably is. /40kg/ is plagued by a one or two retards for sure - you start to notice their posting style and mannerisms after a while, and their filenames when they upload images.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Dunno why mentally ill freaks are drawn to this shithole
              Because a lack of account or name means other users can't block them and they get tricked into engaging with them repeatedly. On twitter or even a classic forum theyd' be ignored or banned.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >filenames
              Saving pictures with the same filename as posted is easy even if you don’t use GankerX. That metric means it’s easy to pretend.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some anons on Ganker also found out that all the blacked porn threads getting spammed there are also from one loser from discord. Dunno why mentally ill freaks are drawn to this shithole or allowed to post on it seemingly indefinitely, but it happens way too often.

            [...]
            It probably is. /40kg/ is plagued by a one or two retards for sure - you start to notice their posting style and mannerisms after a while, and their filenames when they upload images.

            In 40kg we have anons calling others samefags. Even anons saying all sorts of shitposters are the same. Is that one man?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day, gay. A whole new esthetic that doesn’t riff on 40 year old sci-fi is a good thing.
    But I know you have to make posts like this to stir interest for your corporate overlords. Enjoy your kibble.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idiot it looks like starcraft marines fucked the apollo program and not in a cool way

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that this is a marketing thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      reminder that I fucked your dad and made him take estrogen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your aggressive tone isnt making me want to buy your shitty model, GW shill. Maybe you should book another session with your Marketing Counsellor so you are on target when you support the next advert?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          stfu ur my son now go to bed no tendies for u

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the aesthetic, but it’s not very Squats.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna drop £94.80 on the new boxset, take pics and then post them here.
    Just to make you seethe.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Their guns are the only thing that I like about them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The stubby, chunky guns really do give me a Cabal vibe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cabal
        Now that was a delicious schizo meltdown. That was a hilarious thread where one anon pointed out similarities and then this schizo started crying about Squats and Destiny.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bottom right is VERY skyburners oath

        >Cabal
        Now that was a delicious schizo meltdown. That was a hilarious thread where one anon pointed out similarities and then this schizo started crying about Squats and Destiny.

        Touch grass, anon. Please. Don't let Ganker shitposts dictate your life like this

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The arm swords too. The meltdown he meant was in https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/85985566/#85986782 where one guy went crazy about Votann and Cabal.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The arm swords too.
            Anon, even fucking Mass Effect has arm swords. That's not an original concept in the slightest.
            >The meltdown he meant
            >he
            I really don't care anon, you are terminally online if you keep trying to revive drama from a random ass Ganker thread. Seek help, make some friends, at the very least touch some grass

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Anon, even fucking Mass Effect has arm swords
              His specific post was
              >>arm mounted plasma blades
              and I say the general shape is more like it with the edge only glowing and the rest solid than Mass Effect style.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>>arm mounted plasma blades
                Which is actually more accurate to Mass Effect or Starcraft. Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached. Maybe if squats could launch the think like a grenade I'd say you have a point, but as it stands they're just similar the same sense that any heated blade is similar. Honestly, Cabal ones don't even glow red until they're about to explode anyways so even that is a bit of a false equivalence.
                >same shape
                Hardly. Other than both being wrist swords, they don't have too much in common. For one, the Cabal blade is both considerably more angular and more segmented due to the front piece being able to get ejected to hit the enemy with. Squat blades are more rounded, affixed to the gauntlet instead of collapsible (at least judging by how it looks on the model), abs furthermore the red "edge" of the blade is just a lightsaber style energy field, which is nothing like what the Cabal fields. Honestly, the design shares considerably more similarities with Phantasy Star photon weaponry than it dies the Cabal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached
                >Hardly. Other than both being wrist swords, they don't have too much in common
                compared to your pic they might as well be fucking identical. are you trying to say your pic is more like squat plasma swords than webm from

                The arm swords too. The meltdown he meant was in https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/85985566/#85986782 where one guy went crazy about Votann and Cabal.

                ?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >compared to your pic they might as well be fucking identical. are you trying to say your pic is more like squat plasma swords than webm
                In function? Absolutely.
                In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords, but again yes. I went with the other image to showcase the on/off state that they share with squat mele weaponry that, again, is nothing like Cabal tech.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oops, posted the Cabal blade instead of the WL. Still proves my point though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >In function? Absolutely.
                so they're hot blades that cut people. that webm shows two dudes cutting up the cameraman.
                >In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords
                so what? someone siwngs it like a sword, it's mounted the same place. so what if it's got a launch feature, if a zerg had claws that serbe as a secondary water balloon launcher does it mean they got no tyranid influence?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached.
                Not him but how does that matter? StarCraft Terran Marines are closer to a Penal Legion than Space Marines yet clearly that armor was inspired by them. A Beam Saber is an I-field shaped Minovski particle blade from an E-Cap, not a Lightsaber crystal. Two things can be inspired with completely different functionality.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A Beam Saber is an I-field shaped Minovski particle blade from an E-Cap, not a Lightsaber crystal.
                If you would've read literally the next sentence I already addressed that. They're more similar IN FUNCTION AND LOOKS to a Starcraft Zealot's psi blades than a Cabal frag detonator.

                >In function? Absolutely.
                so they're hot blades that cut people. that webm shows two dudes cutting up the cameraman.
                >In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords
                so what? someone siwngs it like a sword, it's mounted the same place. so what if it's got a launch feature, if a zerg had claws that serbe as a secondary water balloon launcher does it mean they got no tyranid influence?

                >so they're hot blades that cut people
                They're energy fields that cut people. They're lightsabers with a metal "core", not red hot metal swords. All the red parts of the model are lightsaber energy, not hot metal. Squat melee weapons are less gundamn heat tomahawks and more of a Phantasy Star photon blades.

                >[...]
                >In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords
                Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached. Maybe if squats could launch the think like a grenade I'd say you have a point, but as it stands they're just similar the same sense that any heated blade is similar.

                You do know that knives with tips that inject explosive material or ballistic knives that shoot blades are real life things? A ballistic knife is still a knife even though it launches its blade. Even if someone made a sci-fi ballistic knife whose blade explodes, it's still a knife.

                Please sort out your greentexting, anon. I'm not even sure the point you're trying to make here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If you would've read literally the next sentence I already addressed that. They're more similar IN FUNCTION AND LOOKS to a Starcraft Zealot's psi blades than a Cabal frag detonator.
                No you didn't. All you listed were at best superficial details. Why not say a Beam Saber is completely different from a Lightsaber given the lack of Minovski particles in Star Wars? And function and looks? A Protoss psionic blade is a psychic blade made of energy and the arm part is just a focuser which sufficiently skilled Protoss don't need. Unless any of those you listed can form a punching dagger blade with their mind on exclusively their left arm above the wrist, it's the most different thing listed. In function, the others are solid masses swung and can bludgeon as it burns them. Protoss psiblades disintegrate or are more cutting. https://youtu.be/M_XwzBMTJaM?t=77

                And other anon's point is obvious. A knife is a knife even if the blade can be launched or explodes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why not say a Beam Saber is completely different from a Lightsaber given the lack of Minovski particles in Star Wars?
                Because they FUNCTION the same, they're a flashlight handle that summons a sword. Just like how squat blades and photon blades FUNCTION the same even if their explanation is different. In fact, squat blades and lightsabers have the same explanation (superheated plasma) and look different but have the same basic FUNCTION (a blade of nondescript scifi energy that can be switched on and off).

                >Squat weaponry FUNCTIONS closer to a lightsaber than a heataxe or Cabal blade
                You don't know that both of those can be turned off? And why are you telling him to compare an axe with broad sword blades?

                >You don't know that both of those can be turned off?
                See

                See [...]
                Squat weaponry FUNCTIONS closer to a lightsaber than a heataxe or Cabal blade. Compare the Cthonian Beserk's axe when it's off to when it's on. It's much closer to [...] than [...].

                We have a clear example of what the axe looks like switched on vs switched off, why would any of the other weapons painted exactly the same behave differently?

                >Squat weaponry FUNCTIONS closer to a lightsaber than a heataxe or Cabal blade.
                Heat axes in MSG are practically proto-beam weapons to the point of clashing no problemo. Not sure your point when Gundam's MS lightsaber equivalent does this.

                >heat axes are to beam sabers as vibroblades are to lightsabers
                You've made a point, but I don't think it's the one you meant to make.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Christ, it's incredible how the simple addition of facial hair makes these go from hideous to cool. All the baldies and femoids are hideous.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not them but turning on & off the blade doesn’t mean anything. We can compare that to retractable batons. That’s a really dumb point to make.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not them but turning on & off the blade doesn’t mean anything
                It literally changes how the blade functions. It's the difference between Metal Gear Rising and No More Heroes. If you're trying to be so reductionist as to say all scifi blades are the same then the whole Cabal obsession is a dumb hill to die on too.
                >That’s a really dumb point to make.
                Same to you.

                >Because they FUNCTION the same, they're a flashlight handle that summons a sword
                And the handle itself is a weapon that can smack people.

                And? There's a reason I keep referring to photon blades that have a defined shape underneath the outer blade layer since that's closer to how squat weaponry operates, but you keep ignoring that in order to screech about lightsabers instead. All that said, you can still bonk someone with a lightsaber if that's really where you draw the line. Especially the glaive variants

                Longtime Gundam fan, here. I'm going to disagree with everything you posted.

                For starters, there's a shaft to the weapon that exists in your picture. A shaft that isn't an emitter. Yyou can compare them to beam axes but then beam axe shafts are nothing without the blade. Most beam axe designs like the Geara Zulu and Sazabi both don't even take an axe or pick shape without them. They look like sticks without the blade on. Cosmic Era ones less so but mostly yes outside the Blaze Zaku.

                Secondly, clearly the head shape of the pick and the fact that you don't want to melt every rock you hit means the blade is turned off during most mining operations. /40kg/ discussed this in https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/85943442/#85944766 so in function it clearly is a tool even turned off.

                Finally, in almost every Gundam continuity the beams, even strong ones, can be matched by sufficiently strong solid weapons especially when enhanced like GN Particles which Anno Domini GN beam sabers (the worthwhile ones like pic) are made of. In Gundam, heat weapons are the predecessors to beam weapons. They are not irrelevant technologies. Comparing vibroblades is completely off because vibroblades do exist in some Gundam timelines like Anno Domini and they don't clash the same way.

                >A shaft that isn't an emitter.
                So if you tie a lightsaber to a stick it becomes a squat axe?
                >Secondly, clearly the head shape of the pick and the fact that you don't want to melt every rock
                Yes, and? That still doesn't change the fact that the melee weapon is an energy field wrapped around the emitter. Like the photon blade I keep referring to that you keep conveniently ignoring.
                >Finally, in almost every Gundam continuity the beams, even strong ones, can be matched by sufficiently strong solid weapons
                Just like vibroblades or beskar

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It literally changes how the blade functions. It's the difference between Metal Gear Rising and No More Heroes.
                >And? There's a reason I keep referring to photon blades that have a defined shape underneath the outer blade layer since that's closer to how squat weaponry operates
                >So if you tie a lightsaber to a stick it becomes a squat axe?
                With Squats being Metal Gear Rising of course, as many have pointed out the physical damage they do along with their heating instead of 0 mass blades. A lightsaber on a stick being used to smack people is the point all these posts have made.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >With Squats being Metal Gear Rising of course
                Wrong, they're closer to No More Heroes in form and function. MGR is closer to chainswords, funnily enough. Not a single weapon in MGR has an energy field surrounding it that does the lion's share of the cutting.
                >as many have pointed out the physical damage they do along with their heating instead of 0 mass blades
                Hence why I keep mentioning the photon blades you keep conveniently ignoring, probably because they're a dead ringer for how squat melee weapons operate rather than just being loosely the same shape and color like Cabal wrist frags.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wrong, they're closer to No More Heroes in form and function. MGR is closer to chainswords, funnily enough. Not a single weapon in MGR has an energy field surrounding it that does the lion's share of the cutting.
                Bullshit bro, all MGR weapons rely on physical one way or another along with their gimmick. Ray's sword tried crushing Raiden with its mass. Telling you over and over that these weapons clearly rely on their mass and physical parts too. That photon shit isn't even relevant. They're a deadringer the same way an ant is an elephant.

                >So if you tie a lightsaber to a stick it becomes a squat axe?
                This is a severe lack of knowledge on how the technologies of all these settings work. The heat hawk works by holding energy (heating up), and rapidly transferring that energy to the target material to deform or vaporize it. However, it has to hold enough energy, long enough to keep from melting down itself, all the while withstanding most of the stress put upon it during combat. It has to withstand its own heat and the edge is functionally molten. That's why it glows. The reason sabers clash is because the i-fields used to contain the plasma repel each other. The reason heat weapons can clash beam sabers is heat weapons like the hawk generates plasma and can repel the beam or are at least capable of surviving their own superheated edges.

                Next, the photon beam has been addressed many times by everyone. Do you hit enemies or rocks with the photon blades and effectively with the blade off? Because all these examples, including the Squat weapons, can do that. Lightsabers cannot.

                And the reason they work in UC and many other timelines is the similar technology. You had to make a comparison where many timelines have heated weapons as a straight up predecessor to beam weapons to the point where they can clash when other types don't.

                IDK what this guy's saying. He gets everything wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So if you tie a lightsaber to a stick it becomes a squat axe?
                This is a severe lack of knowledge on how the technologies of all these settings work. The heat hawk works by holding energy (heating up), and rapidly transferring that energy to the target material to deform or vaporize it. However, it has to hold enough energy, long enough to keep from melting down itself, all the while withstanding most of the stress put upon it during combat. It has to withstand its own heat and the edge is functionally molten. That's why it glows. The reason sabers clash is because the i-fields used to contain the plasma repel each other. The reason heat weapons can clash beam sabers is heat weapons like the hawk generates plasma and can repel the beam or are at least capable of surviving their own superheated edges.

                Next, the photon beam has been addressed many times by everyone. Do you hit enemies or rocks with the photon blades and effectively with the blade off? Because all these examples, including the Squat weapons, can do that. Lightsabers cannot.

                And the reason they work in UC and many other timelines is the similar technology. You had to make a comparison where many timelines have heated weapons as a straight up predecessor to beam weapons to the point where they can clash when other types don't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It has to withstand its own heat and the edge is functionally molten
                So like I said, it's superheated metal rather than an energy field. Closer to an Imperium power blade than a squat plasma blade.
                >the photon beam has been addressed many times by everyone. Do you hit enemies or rocks with the photon blades and effectively with the blade off?
                Yes, absolutely. As effectively as an unpowered squat axe, at any rate.
                >Because all these examples, including the Squat weapons, can do that.
                If you want to split hairs here, not really for squat axes. The unpowered axe can crack rocks but good luck dealing with even an unarmored ork with your unpowered stick.
                >You had to make a comparison where many timelines have heated weapons as a straight up predecessor to beam weapons
                I think a lot of this confusion comes from scifi using the same names to mean completely different things, such as vibroblades. I tried to clarify which one I meant as I used it but it can be confusing when bouncing around franchises like this discussion has.

                >Wrong, they're closer to No More Heroes in form and function. MGR is closer to chainswords, funnily enough. Not a single weapon in MGR has an energy field surrounding it that does the lion's share of the cutting.
                Bullshit bro, all MGR weapons rely on physical one way or another along with their gimmick. Ray's sword tried crushing Raiden with its mass. Telling you over and over that these weapons clearly rely on their mass and physical parts too. That photon shit isn't even relevant. They're a deadringer the same way an ant is an elephant.

                [...]
                IDK what this guy's saying. He gets everything wrong.

                >all MGR weapons rely on physical one way or another along with their gimmick.
                That's....exactly what I said. Try rereading. There's no plasma edged katana in MGR, it's all high frequency.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There's no plasma edged katana in MGR, it's all high frequency.
                >Bladewolf knives

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So like I said, it's superheated metal rather than an energy field. Closer to an Imperium power blade than a squat plasma blade.
                It's plasma. Plasma is a state of matter. Heating a weapon so much the edge becomes plasma or generating plasma makes little difference in practice. The edge is straight up molten and plasma.
                >Yes, absolutely. As effectively as an unpowered squat axe, at any rate.
                Squats do mining with those. Those are tools before weapons. All sorts of hard rock. Photon weapons are more like hard light anyways.
                >If you want to split hairs here, not really for squat axes. The unpowered axe can crack rocks but good luck dealing with even an unarmored ork with your unpowered stick.
                Thus the point everyone here makes about how it harms through both heat and hitting the enemy with a heavy weapon. A lightsaber isn't even usable as a weapon without the blade. A Squat mining tool can crack a head. Also Genestealers do use mining tools as weapons thus I doubt Squat mining tools would be any less effective in their mining modes given their greater technology.
                >I think a lot of this confusion comes from scifi using the same names to mean completely different things, such as vibroblades. I tried to clarify which one I meant as I used it but it can be confusing when bouncing around franchises like this discussion has.
                The problem is, those who know these franchises and/or their real life equivalents can draw comparisons. Vibrating swords exist in many franchises. The technologies are not so different that the basic idea isn't shared even though real life vibrating saws are more as a safety countermeasure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Squats do mining with those
                Rocks aren't heavily armored scifi bugs/knights/robots/etc.
                >Thus the point everyone here makes about how it harms through both heat and hitting the enemy with a heavy weapon.
                Yes. It cuts with the blade and then hits with the core. Photon blades work the same way. Obviously both will be considerably less effective without the blade bit.
                >The technologies are not so different that the basic idea isn't shared
                They are though. Vibroblades in Star Wars deflect lightsabers thanks to their cortosis/beskar weave rather than due to the vibration of the blade, for example. While the base idea is the same, how it interacts with scifi concepts unique to the franchise might vary wildly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Rocks aren't heavily armored scifi bugs/knights/robots/etc.
                Genestealers still use them and their equipment is standard Imperial rather than Squats.
                >Yes. It cuts with the blade and then hits with the core. Photon blades work the same way. Obviously both will be considerably less effective without the blade bit.
                That's what people hare have been saying and comparing. They're saying lightsabers don't work that way so the comparison is farther. I'd say Photon blades are somewhat hard light blade.
                >They are though. Vibroblades in Star Wars deflect lightsabers thanks to their cortosis/beskar weave rather than due to the vibration of the blade, for example. While the base idea is the same, how it interacts with scifi concepts unique to the franchise might vary wildly.
                Unique laws of physics yes but in here, there's similar areas. An edge heated so much it's plasma and a theoretical tube going through a weapon to pump the edge with plasma differ in just where the plasma's from. Lightsabers and beam sabers are alike in he solid parts only generate the blade which is only the energy stuff.

                And I recall OT era vibroblades may not have the same resistance given less Jedi.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Genestealers still use them
                They're also explicitly saboteurs that rely on ambushing and overwhelming numbers.
                >They're saying lightsabers don't work that way so the comparison is farther
                I've never said it's a one-to-one with lightsabers, I've said the red glowing edge of all the blades is EFFECTIVELY a lightsaber because that's the most commonly known beam/energy weapon out there.
                >And I recall OT era vibroblades may not have the same resistance given less Jedi.
                SW canon is a crapshoot on the best of days. Sometimes cortosis weapons merely "block" the blade as if it's clashing with another lightsaber, other stories have it slice through and disrupt the blade, forcing the jedi/sith to reignite the emitter. A minor inconvenience, but one that can cost a saber user their life if they're not expecting it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They're also explicitly saboteurs that rely on ambushing and overwhelming numbers.
                And somehow their guys have good shit like depleted volonium shells. I really don’t get them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Homer Genesimpson got it from his day job at the Volonium Plant

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because they FUNCTION the same, they're a flashlight handle that summons a sword
                And the handle itself is a weapon that can smack people.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because they FUNCTION the same, they're a flashlight handle that summons a sword. Just like how squat blades and photon blades FUNCTION the same even if their explanation is different. In fact, squat blades and lightsabers have the same explanation (superheated plasma) and look different but have the same basic FUNCTION (a blade of nondescript scifi energy that can be switched on and off).
                That description applies to so many things. Even Gundam Heat weapons fit the bill. Better I'd say because as

                Those Plasma Axes are mining tools
                >https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/01/the-leagues-of-votann-let-loose-the-augmented-fury-of-the-cthonian-berserks/
                >Boosted by the cyberstimms that flood their systems, the Beserks can keep battling through life-or-death situations. They eschew the high-tech STC weapons wielded by the rest of the Kin, using robust mining equipment such as heavy plasma axes and concussion mauls.
                The shape is clearly like a pickaxe when off. A lightsaber off doesn't do shit.

                points out, a lightsaber turned off is useless while the axes there are perfectly functional pickaxes turned off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Longtime Gundam fan, here. I'm going to disagree with everything you posted.

                For starters, there's a shaft to the weapon that exists in your picture. A shaft that isn't an emitter. Yyou can compare them to beam axes but then beam axe shafts are nothing without the blade. Most beam axe designs like the Geara Zulu and Sazabi both don't even take an axe or pick shape without them. They look like sticks without the blade on. Cosmic Era ones less so but mostly yes outside the Blaze Zaku.

                Secondly, clearly the head shape of the pick and the fact that you don't want to melt every rock you hit means the blade is turned off during most mining operations. /40kg/ discussed this in https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/85943442/#85944766 so in function it clearly is a tool even turned off.

                Finally, in almost every Gundam continuity the beams, even strong ones, can be matched by sufficiently strong solid weapons especially when enhanced like GN Particles which Anno Domini GN beam sabers (the worthwhile ones like pic) are made of. In Gundam, heat weapons are the predecessors to beam weapons. They are not irrelevant technologies. Comparing vibroblades is completely off because vibroblades do exist in some Gundam timelines like Anno Domini and they don't clash the same way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bet he doesn't even know the strike's knives vibrate and they can't do shit against beams. I read the astray spin offs and the same model knife was used to penetrate a beam shield but not only was it destroyed in the attempt but another character said
                >"The Anti-Beam coated Armour Schneider was able to pierce the barrier!"
                So coating that shit with anti-beam juice would still get it fucked against beams, let alone standard no anti-beam coating knives. I don't know what the fuck is he doing comparing vibrating shit when ironically shit would work better in star wars because a virbo blade can be made of mandalorian iron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >virbo blade can be made of mandalorian iron.
                no need, kotor era vibroblades all have anti-lightsaber stuff because jedi, sith everywhere, exar kun was recent, mandalorian wars were like yesterday, etc.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actually the Axes Cthonian berserks use very specifically are used to literally cut ore veins out of rock.

                Imagine instead of mining via blasting or smashing you just cut up a rock face like a big lump of cheese.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That sounds useful and more controllable than explosives but surely there'd be areas they'd need to crush like a hammer or pickaxe or they'd drill,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dislike these models immensely, and why are they called "Cthonian" berserks? Are they descended from squats who lived on Cthonia? seems retarded that their name was have something so heretical in it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw this anon has less knowledge than a TvTropes article
                https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotBlade
                >At one point in the original series, a heat hawk is able to briefly parry the Gundam's beam saber, which is formed from superheated plasma. You think its because a heat hawk blade would by necessity have a higher melting point than the Zaku's armor before you know that the All There in the Manual tells you the blade of the heat weapon is actually plasmarized and maintained its form (thus they are just lesser example of beam weapons with lower tech).
                >yfw this anon didn't even do the smallest research before spewing this shit about hot metal

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. It'd belike saying Cabal aren't inspired by Space Marines because they're Xenos that didn't undergo any augmentations.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >A Beam Saber is an I-field shaped Minovski particle blade from an E-Cap, not a Lightsaber crystal.
                If you would've read literally the next sentence I already addressed that. They're more similar IN FUNCTION AND LOOKS to a Starcraft Zealot's psi blades than a Cabal frag detonator.
                [...]
                >so they're hot blades that cut people
                They're energy fields that cut people. They're lightsabers with a metal "core", not red hot metal swords. All the red parts of the model are lightsaber energy, not hot metal. Squat melee weapons are less gundamn heat tomahawks and more of a Phantasy Star photon blades.
                [...]
                Please sort out your greentexting, anon. I'm not even sure the point you're trying to make here.

                Squat weaponry FUNCTIONS closer to a lightsaber than a heataxe or Cabal blade. Compare the Cthonian Beserk's axe when it's off to when it's on. It's much closer to

                >>>arm mounted plasma blades
                Which is actually more accurate to Mass Effect or Starcraft. Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached. Maybe if squats could launch the think like a grenade I'd say you have a point, but as it stands they're just similar the same sense that any heated blade is similar. Honestly, Cabal ones don't even glow red until they're about to explode anyways so even that is a bit of a false equivalence.
                >same shape
                Hardly. Other than both being wrist swords, they don't have too much in common. For one, the Cabal blade is both considerably more angular and more segmented due to the front piece being able to get ejected to hit the enemy with. Squat blades are more rounded, affixed to the gauntlet instead of collapsible (at least judging by how it looks on the model), abs furthermore the red "edge" of the blade is just a lightsaber style energy field, which is nothing like what the Cabal fields. Honestly, the design shares considerably more similarities with Phantasy Star photon weaponry than it dies the Cabal.

                than

                >compared to your pic they might as well be fucking identical. are you trying to say your pic is more like squat plasma swords than webm
                In function? Absolutely.
                In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords, but again yes. I went with the other image to showcase the on/off state that they share with squat mele weaponry that, again, is nothing like Cabal tech.

                .

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Squat weaponry FUNCTIONS closer to a lightsaber than a heataxe or Cabal blade
                You don't know that both of those can be turned off? And why are you telling him to compare an axe with broad sword blades?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Squat weaponry FUNCTIONS closer to a lightsaber than a heataxe or Cabal blade.
                Heat axes in MSG are practically proto-beam weapons to the point of clashing no problemo. Not sure your point when Gundam's MS lightsaber equivalent does this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those Plasma Axes are mining tools
                >https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/01/the-leagues-of-votann-let-loose-the-augmented-fury-of-the-cthonian-berserks/
                >Boosted by the cyberstimms that flood their systems, the Beserks can keep battling through life-or-death situations. They eschew the high-tech STC weapons wielded by the rest of the Kin, using robust mining equipment such as heavy plasma axes and concussion mauls.
                The shape is clearly like a pickaxe when off. A lightsaber off doesn't do shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Those Plasma Axes are mining tools
                Your point?
                >The shape is clearly like a pickaxe when off.
                Your point?
                >A lightsaber off doesn't do shit.
                Your point?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >

                >compared to your pic they might as well be fucking identical. are you trying to say your pic is more like squat plasma swords than webm
                In function? Absolutely.
                In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords, but again yes. I went with the other image to showcase the on/off state that they share with squat mele weaponry that, again, is nothing like Cabal tech.
                >In form? You'd need to look at Wired Lances instead of swords
                Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached. Maybe if squats could launch the think like a grenade I'd say you have a point, but as it stands they're just similar the same sense that any heated blade is similar.

                You do know that knives with tips that inject explosive material or ballistic knives that shoot blades are real life things? A ballistic knife is still a knife even though it launches its blade. Even if someone made a sci-fi ballistic knife whose blade explodes, it's still a knife.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yfw D2 newfags

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Anon, even fucking Mass Effect has arm swords. That's not an original concept in the slightest.
              Mass Effect weapons aren't Shuriken Catapults even though they're really similar. It's always the details that matter.
              >revive
              Who's reviving what? Anon clarifies other anon

              >Cabal
              Now that was a delicious schizo meltdown. That was a hilarious thread where one anon pointed out similarities and then this schizo started crying about Squats and Destiny.

              's post means. Neither said they tried reviving anything, just reflecting about a past time something happened. You're getting very emotional about this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's always the details that matter.
                Clearly not, as you're glossing over plenty in order to force this association. See

                >>>arm mounted plasma blades
                Which is actually more accurate to Mass Effect or Starcraft. Cabal arm blades aren't superheated plasma, they're an explosive charge with a bayonet attached. Maybe if squats could launch the think like a grenade I'd say you have a point, but as it stands they're just similar the same sense that any heated blade is similar. Honestly, Cabal ones don't even glow red until they're about to explode anyways so even that is a bit of a false equivalence.
                >same shape
                Hardly. Other than both being wrist swords, they don't have too much in common. For one, the Cabal blade is both considerably more angular and more segmented due to the front piece being able to get ejected to hit the enemy with. Squat blades are more rounded, affixed to the gauntlet instead of collapsible (at least judging by how it looks on the model), abs furthermore the red "edge" of the blade is just a lightsaber style energy field, which is nothing like what the Cabal fields. Honestly, the design shares considerably more similarities with Phantasy Star photon weaponry than it dies the Cabal.

                >Anon clarifies other anon
                I don't care how many people you pretend to be to play out this little drama, I still don't care about days old melodrama from a general of all things. Like I said, touch grass.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >some anon claims that the Cabal/Votann connection is probably one dude trying to force a meme
            >ever since then a single anon has been on a crusade to "expose the schizo" every single time Destiny is mentioned on /tg/ and spams it in every single votann thread
            You know, I'm beginning to think that schizo was on to something...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>ever since then a single anon has
              >a single
              How does anon know this? Is it you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And you will samefag again and reply to me again. Votannigmer, destimoron, gundammoron, nobody likes your favorite things to spam. You're alone. Stop spamming them.
            Please tell me he's really like this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The greater Cabal vibe I get is from almost everyone being a clone and regular devouring of planets via their huge spaceships.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bolter variants and the Hylas are fucking sexy. I love diagonal magazines and cylinders.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The LoV aesthetic sucks
    You are right, but why do you even care about 40k anyways? It's like hating on Windows while at the same time using it instead of one of the better alternatives. Just move on and leave WH to grogs and preschool children, the only 2 grouls that still care about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hating on Windows while at the same time using it instead of one of the better alternatives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >grogs
      Can you please not speak retard?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry, sweaty, that's old gaming vernacular - short for grognard, an elderly and exceptionally irritable gamer who pines for the good old days and the best edition of the game (whichever one they started playing when they were twelve). It's actually a pretty common piece of game store lingo which I wouldn't expect a social media interloper and cultural parasite like yourself to understand, since it would require that you actually play games to pick it up.

        But, please, go ahead and tell me that you actually care about you soldiers and aren't just using something other people enjoy as a battlefront in your degenerate culture war. (:

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sneed thread

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anon... all 40k aesthetic is ugly as hell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm curious now what your preferred aesthetic is, because sometimes 40k can be slick asf

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It can get even wilder nowadays with fan-arts often refining aspects.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    has their lore dropped yet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes
      H888k

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dafuq is with every damn thing ignoring invulns, this is getting so silly balance wise.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How common "no inv sv" rule is these days? Last time I played it was like couple models [calidus, pariahs and necro lord, abbadon iirc]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much just the two magna-rail weapons in the squats, the hammerhead railgun, c'tan phase blades and a few relics scattered here and there.

      Most forms of "ignore invulns" are in the form of mortal wounds which are pretty much their own thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Powercreep sells models. The models abilities are not based on game balance, they are there to simple encourage sales. Inv save was the ceiling for a while, so now to keep making each successive model even more appealing, they have to give them 'ignore inv save' powers. Dont worry, a new 'super inv save' will be out soon for the next select models they wish to sell, or they might just release yet another edition that resets everything again to allow another round of powercreeped abilities.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're given to armies that have little to no way to deal mortal wounds easily

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are overall still rare. To my knowledge

      >Necron have the Nightbringer in melee
      >Necron have a stratagem for other C'tan again in melee.
      >Necron have a Cryptek that does it both melee and ranges (but has a very low AP so it's pretty much irrelevant)
      >Tau have the big Railgun at ranged
      >Tau have a subfaction stratagem for ranged
      >Eldar have a multiple Fire Prism Stratagem
      >Eldar have an Harlequin stratagem
      >Belakor sword
      >SoB Miracle ability in melee
      >Nurgle Demon Weapon
      >Alpha Legion Relic pistol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Yncarne and Skarbrand do it as well in melee.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So

          Big Monsters melee
          >Nighbringer
          >Yncarne
          >Skarbrand
          >C'tans with a Stratagem
          >Be'lakor

          Big Gunboat Ranged
          >Railgun on Hammerhead
          >Everything T'au with a subfaction stratagem
          >Fire Prism if multiples and using stratagem
          >Votann Magna Rail on Hecaton Land Fortress

          Characters upgrades
          >Nurgle Demon Weapon
          >Alpha Legion pistol
          >Harlequin Warlord Trait for melee
          >Sister of Battle miracle ability

          Generic units
          >Votann special weapon on basic troops
          >Harlequins stratagem for troupes (Ap-2 base)
          >Necron Chronomancer (Ap-2 base)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's also a bunch of psychic powers that turn off invulns on a unit, like Death Hex and Null Zone.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Vindicare Assassin's guns.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This gun just looks like some giant rectangle oper8r tacticool bullshit

    Anon what the fuck are you even on

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More importantly, isn’t that just a fucking rail rifle?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. But better. Because the Leagues are strictly better than both the tau and the imperium.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As apposed to box shaped guns, box shaped tanks, and box shaped bikes?
    Have you ever actually looked at half the other designs? The Imperium is box shaped.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GW is so retarded, they should've just made the biker and miner squats part of a mixed abhuman mercenary army.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am more concerned with how he is meant to use that scope through his helmet. Don’t autosenses make more sense here?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >random boner knows much more about 40k than modern GW
      sad but true, fuck gw

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    okay boomer

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This gun just looks like some giant rectangle
    You've just described more than half of the guns that the Imperium uses, retard
    >gun has a scope
    >oper8r tacticool bullshit
    Ah, I see. You're just braindead.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP clearly has no idea what he’s talking about. For some reason, the anti-Votann posters all have these strange spergs, meltdowns and just plain ignorance of 40k or /tg/ for that matter. Does OP think that’s tacticool when it’s just as blocky as Imperium guns?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boy I can't wait for the new super meltagun/lascannons to roll 6's and wipe out entire squads. Very cool

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >oper8r tacticool bullshit
    not really, all it needed were some runes and it's be perfect spacedorfy
    >The LoV aesthetic sucks
    yes

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gaywokeshop calls all its fans nazis
    >releases this lame looking shit no one will buy
    not lookin good they are circling the go woke go broke drain

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tau Railgun rifle, but powercreeped to make tournament fags buy the model. And so it continues.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >oper8r tacticool bullshit
    Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i like that they trigger /tg/ so much. thats a sign they're doing something right

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >anon has a meltdown and starts samefagging and strawmanning after being called out
    >continues to post in other threads and samefag there in an effort to hide his shame
    ISHYGDDT

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The LoV aesthetic sucks
    False premise, didn't read the rest.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the hell do all of you know how plasma axes function? The rules got leaked but did the lore? It’s a reasonable guess that with all the things that can survive a plasma gun to the face & the added mass of the weapon would mean hitting them does damage both through the plasma edge & kinetic energy. I admit that. But where’s the lightsaber function coming from?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Their vehicles look toylike, but I guess that's in line with their target audience. Also obligatory shitpost about "Nasapunk Astronautpunk DeepRockpunk Lunarpunk Votanpunk Dwarfpunk Punkpunk Warhammerpunk HaloPlasmaSwordpunk aesthetic"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So basically we're not allowed to disagree with your Low IQ opinion?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing wrong with liking Imaginext. But I do have an issue with people insisting on describing things in terms of Nounpunk.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHile you say it sucks, I actually quite like it and think it's fitting for them. The LoV are dwarves and as dwarves they're all: stocky, square, robust, and tough, and it reflects on their weapons and vehicles as well. Their space miners too, so the industrial aesthetic that's also part of them fits as well, they can just be repurposed between work and war at once.

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