the only way to stop the cheating epidemic in online fps games is to stop making hitscan weapons

the only way to stop the cheating epidemic in online fps games is to stop making hitscan weapons

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is already working cheats with AI detection of players.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Am I right in thinking there are AI cheats which literally read your screen and click and don't need to be injected or interact with the game directly at all? Sounds literally impossible to prevent without even more sophisticated AI. It's a never ending arms race.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes, "visual cheats" have been around for a while. opencv bred the first batch of these types of cheats. Not sure what people use these days, as I don't cheat or care to

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i play titanfall 2 regularly and didnt notice anything different

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Valorant does a decent enough job by holding information server side until absolutely needed by the client. That kills like 95% of wallhacks morons use

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was wondering about this earlier. Would this really work if every game implemented this? All the information handled server side? Could it be fixed entirely by something as simple as putting all the combat-related and movement information server side?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >every weapon is either the plasma gun or rocket launcher from quake 3

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i dont understand how quake doesnt have at least a few thousand active players

      most people REALLY have god awful taste

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The game is great, I like the movement, weapons are good, but the skill floor is just insane. Playing hundreds of matches getting shit on constantly isn't really fun, everyone who still plays is way much better than a beginner.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gatekeeping basically. The vast majority of players are dudes that have been playing for like 20+ years so new players have pretty much no chance against them and thus lose interest after constantly getting curb stomped.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >get Q3
        >either play the shitty steam version or use ioquake3 (or discover CPMA which is the ideal way to play)
        >join a server with one player or none at all
        >finally play after 15min
        >60-0
        Man, wonder why no one wants to play.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        quake is fricking boring from what little I played of it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Back in the Team Fortress Classic days, I recall seeing a cheat developer demonstrate an aimbot that could shoot a player doing a conc jump out of the air using the rocket launcher. It would simply calculate where the rocket had to be aimed based on the angle/trajectory/velocity/etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This exists for TF2, some guys will camp on endif with projectile aimbot on direct hit and mantreads and farm ELO when the admins aren't on.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Legislation and enforcement, states need to start locking cheaters away

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cheating is a natural part of any game. There's no point in trying to stop it.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bring back LAN parties.
    You don't want to cheat when you play with friends.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People who cheat in multiplayer games should be unironically imprisoned

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A device that accepts HDMI input, uses AI to process the pixels, and outputs keyboard and mouse events to USB would be impossible to detect

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I already came up with a solution. It's gpu hardware bans, but using signed keys.
    >but you can just spoof it!
    Oh really? Try spoofing Google.com. You can't. That's because we've had a system that works flawlessly for decades.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Try spoofing Google.com
      Braindead, Every corporation and company with Firewall in place spoof google.com by replacing a trusted security key on work PC to spy on what you're doing
      https://www.fortinet.com/resources/cyberglossary/dpi-deep-packet-inspection

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You won't be able replace the keys on the Nvidia owned servers and game servers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So? You replace or spoof your card Serial number and you're good again. If you get caught cheating.
          The only solution is to bring back private servers where players can kick the player on the fly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you spoof the key, the check will fail and the server will refuse to let you play.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why does this matter? You aren't going to trust some self signed CA you fricking dingus you are only going to trust nvidia signed ca's

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So you want to sign every card with individual nvidia certificate?
          Just copy it from another card then, there will be millions of them out there.

          If you spoof the key, the check will fail and the server will refuse to let you play.

          How is that key created? For each card there's individual one? You can just clone the key then. You're making it more convoluted for no benefits.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Each card has a unique private key built into the hardware. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to extract it. Each key is signed by the Nvidia CA.

            When you connect to the game sever, they check the identity of your card matches the key with the Nvidia CA. Then save that to your account or whatever. If you cheat, they ban that card.

            If you wanted to spoof, you would need card, and then somehow jury rig your setup to send that card's key. Plus the price of the card itself.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what about making the players install anti-cheat rootkits?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cheaters are wienerroaches

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What if we just had community servers again?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How would poor publishers make money from gacha mechanics?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is that a serious question?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, it was sarcasm.
          Publishers won't allow for the return of dedicated/community servers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, just have private servers anyone can spin up and have players kick gays and cheaters out

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remove incentives to cheap, remove "progression", remove "achievements", remove marketplaces. Just a game, just me vs you, there's no reason to cheat there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People were cheating in counterstrike back in 2000.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i liked the idea of putting ghost players only the cheater could see.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cheating is fine, if you’re mad it’s because you care too much about competitive games. Go play singleplayer

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