The ORC License is going to be just as bad as the new OGL isn't it.

The ORC License is going to be just as bad as the new OGL isn't it.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WotC damage control thread.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WotC doesn't play ACKS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WotC doesn't pla-ACK

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my Fallout 2d20 game is full of slavers and slavery. Don't like it? go kill the fucking slavers and set the slaves free.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This seems like what anyone with a brain would do. Just because you run a game with slavery doesn't mean you support it. I've never understood Paizo's take here. They should have said "Only Evil Empires" can have slavery. It's still retarded to try and police players like that but at leasts it's idealogically consistent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You have to remember that these people are cripplingly retarded or just plain lying. If the current cultural hegemon was Shintosim they would have clauses that demand you respect whatever the fuck shintoists believe. They are perpetually ideologically captured by the powerbases ideology.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Alignment is not a straitjacket and does not forbid or allow actions
        >Only evil empires own slaves
        PICK ONE.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's consistent if slavery makes you evil rather than the other way around.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly at this point slavery is just fucking boring. Look at Paizo's line-up
        > Over half their adventure books feature slavers at the primary named enemies
        > Almost half the AP line features enemies whose primary gimmick is slaves with major themes of choosing 'free slaves or not?!?!', from Runelords and Cheliax to Katapesh and the City of Brass.
        > Two of the major factions in Organized Play are entirely focused on trading and/or freeing slaves.

        It's fucking boring. And running an entire adventure where players chose to fight to get slavery banned from Absalom just to mention slaves over 100 times in the Absalom book, including a thriving underground slave market, is fucking dumb.

        The only reason they used them in the first place is because it's lazy writing to get PCs to use combat because "killing slavers is fine!"

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    Use CC-BY or Gnu FDL.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why use anything? Rules aren’t copyrightable. Just haha make your own fucking game with its own lore IP it’s so fucking easy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Rules aren’t copyrightable.
        This isn't as blanket of a statement of protection as some anons seem to think it is.
        If WotC's goon squad thinks you copied even a single sentence from the SRD verbatum they will have you in court for years and will bleed you dry. They don't own the idea of rolling 1d20 and adding modifiers to it based on your primary characteristic numbers and level. They do, however, have the ability to rape you in court over every single way it was worded in their published books. You might even win the lawsuit in the end if you can afford to tough it out, but it won't matter becuase you will be bogged down in court for years and you won't be allowed to distribute your creation at all during that time due to an injuction. And they will get an injunction. Copyright cases are rarely ever heard outside of Norther Californa, West Texas or if the plantiff and defendent are based in the same place their home district. In all three cases, Hasbro has poured enough money into selective locales to have the court on their side.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does Gnu FDL work in this situation? I was vaguely wondering what would happen if someone went full Stallman and made a copy-left license for a TTRPG system.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't see why not... But on a second check, the game I thought used the FDL, is actually licensed just using the regular GPL. (YAGS)

        There is also the Share Alike version of CC if you're after a viral free license.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, that's the whole idea 3pps should get, but instead they get behind some other competitor's behind who helped create OGL in the first place.
        any corporate issued license is a way for them to make you market their product for free.
        And when I state this, they call me here and on both r/osr as being a WOTC shill.
        This OGL thing made me realise that OSR people are as badly in the consoomerist mind as the 5e normies.

        Worst case scenario, someone, (or I will) just re-write the whole B/X and publish it under FDL or just pulic domain.

        Stallman was right.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well there's no point to it. The OGL is only useful because it was a WotC-won't-sue contract. Everything else is just stuff you can use regardless without license.

    The only conceivable gain I could see from the ORC would be if Chaosium let's their stuff be used for making games without separate licensing, but they seem to be license-aware so I doubt it.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Ms. Williams.
    As you say, Ms. Williams.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably.
    Better make 20 fucking threads a day about it just like retards are doing for the OGL.
    Keep crying you got burned when the warning signs were there.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not including the pleasure slave exerpt

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ORC will not be a specific corporate license, also it seems there won't be any forced termination for offensive content, so I doubt it.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is extremely funny because autarch (who wrote ACKS) is involved in the ORC development process and there's nigh universal agreement that there should be no morality clause

    https://twitter.com/_Autarch_/status/1616629373855039490

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's pretty cool to hear.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I pirate all this shit anyway and the main game I run stopped getting official content years ago. The only people who should if it's good or not are the ones who either sell or pay real life dillary doos for homebrew D&D supplements. If the ORC is bad no one will use it. If it's good people will switch to it. The only reason OGL going away is causing a shit storm is because it has been well established for a long time. ORC doesn't have that.

    Unless you are one of the few people this stuff actually affects just munch your popcorn and enjoy watching WOTC implode.

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