>the original games are beloved classics. >reboot is loved by everyone even the old veterans

>the original games are beloved classics
>reboot is loved by everyone even the old veterans
how did nu hitman pull of the impossible?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i don't like either so your greentexts are both incorrect

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They already tried to market to normies with Absolution and failed, it was their last shot and they didn't want Hitman to die, the fire under their asses is why they didn't fail again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Absolution
      can we all just never mention this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The devs themselves like to reference it alot, I know it's cliche but it wasn't a bad game, just a bad Hitman game

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was definitely both

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Piss off.

            Never played it, what's wrong with it?

            It isn’t an open hitman game. It’s almost entirely linear with very few open levels.

            They also added the worst mechanic in all of hitman games in that people whose uniforms you disguise as will recognize you unless you press the “blend in” button which for some reason uses a resource meter and it just doesn’t make sense because all he does is like tip his hat or something to “blend in”.

            If you can get past the linear levels (which honestly isn’t that bad, just bad for being hit man) and get past the blend in mechanic, it truly is the best hitman plot and character-wise. Plus there’s an awesome mechanic that lets you do RDR/RDR2 bullet tag + shoot that is really satisfying.

            Tbh I’m probably gonna go replay it now. It’s a solid game just not a good hit man game.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >it just doesn’t make sense because all he does is like tip his hat or something to “blend in”.
              It's hilarious when you have an outfit with no hat and he just covers his face with his hand like an autist

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              In some retarded Absolution feels like throwback to C47. Like some weird after decade sequel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah it was definitely a bad game as well.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never played it, what's wrong with it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Hitman: Absolution

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, holy shit, I remember.
          >AND NOW I TAKE MY MASK OFF IN FRONT OF THIS AUDIENCE BEFORE I KILL YOU, BECAUSE I AM THE MOST SILENT AND BEST ASSASSIN IN THE WORLD!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't that bad of a game, just terrible hitman and luckily developers understood that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it was pretty fun as a one playthrough thing but it's definitely nothing more than that, which is the opposite of what hitman is

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        without Absolution there would be no nu-Hitman.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair there were mechanics from Absolution they borrowed for the new ones, but they polished them out the ass

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Absolution had a couple of good ideas like blending, disguises not being god-mode, NPCs having tons of situational dialogue, and also user created contracts, so it was nice they didn’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Kind of wish they kept togglable silencers and mark and execute though.

        >No remakes of classic maps in the Nu engine

        What went wrong?

        Impossible for some maps because Glacier 2 doesn’t do elevators (notice how all elevators in nu-man are either out of order, or just empty elevator shafts). IO also said they would have done a proper prison level by now if it weren’t for engine limitations.

        I was in the focus group feedback thing back in 2016. I have ALWAYS suggested timed events, or at least not making them tied to proximity.
        I suggested a map with a timed map change event, like an airport where you have to get the target before they board or a train that arrives and if you're too slow it continues in a full train station or something like that.
        I also liked having separated camera circuits, but all the casuals bitched and moaned and they nerfed it.
        I also concluded all my feeback sessions with telling them how much I hated the always online bullshit, but at that time I still thought it was Squeenix' idea.

        There are some timed events, but I think the logic for proximity based events is because of how fuck huge most of the maps are. The things that bother me most are instances like the Isle of Sgail where you need to disguise yourself as the DJ to start the burning effigy ceremony. There should be a way to make that happen on its own. The best designed maps in the trilogy are also the most Suit Only friendly ones IMO.

        I liked separate camera circuits too. Although I think IO deserve massive credit for making it so that a target is allowed to spot you without a penalty as long as you kill them before they can tell anyone else.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The things that bother me most are instances like the Isle of Sgail where you need to disguise yourself as the DJ to start the burning effigy ceremony
          Yeah I hated that too. Like you couldn't manipulate the pyrotechnics from afar.
          Same with the secret vote or what it was, where you HAD to impersonate that one dude to be able to kill the chick or forward the necessary events. Can't remember what exactly it was because Sgail was by far my least favorite level of 2.

          >it just doesn’t make sense because all he does is like tip his hat or something to “blend in”.
          It's hilarious when you have an outfit with no hat and he just covers his face with his hand like an autist

          The best thing about this was the level where you had to evade a SWAT team or something and at one point could take the clothes of a fully covered swat dude. Which means that as long as they wouldn't talk to you or something nobody, especially not the regular non-swat cops, should be able to know that it's not one of them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Which means that as long as they wouldn't talk to you or something nobody, especially not the regular non-swat cops, should be able to know that it's not one of them.
            Reminds me of the """enforcers""" you get in some of the WoA levels. Like in fucking Paris with regular security guard who will suspect you even though by default you walk in with a presumably legit invite and none of the IAGO guards will bat an eye at you if you steal an IAGO invite. We simply can't comprehend these omniscient guards, they're not on our level.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I understand why they put the suit enforcer in the Paris Bar from a gameplay perspective though. Without that one enforcer, the bar is objectively the best route to Dalia from the main entrance.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                my only problem is that going around him is still pretty easy. I have a harder trouble with the waitress enforcer in the bar; it can make going for the drink kill on Novikov a pain

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I understand why they put the suit enforcer in the Paris Bar from a gameplay perspective though. Without that one enforcer, the bar is objectively the best route to Dalia from the main entrance.

              yeah, shit like this is a sort of necessary evil, same with the crows in mumbai (though they spammed them a bit too hard). i guess the in-universe explanation would be that a few people are just gonna sense that 47's vibe is off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In universe, Suit enforcers are usually given an explanation:

                >The Maelstrom knows an assassin is after him, so his gang is extra suHispanicious
                >ICA agents in Berlin know who 47 is.
                >Pritchard in Chongqing knows who 47 is since he’s one of the ICA Board Directors

                The Paris one is the only one that isn’t explained, though an interesting headcanon is that he may have seen 47 on a previous job before.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think enforcers are a good addition. In my headcanon, they have some kind of meta-knowledge, in that a weird bald dude with a huge barcode on the back of his head might not belong anywhere here. From a gameplay perspective they're necessary lest we get a Blood Money tier "literally invisible" kind of thing going.
              And it's still a way better mechanic than the bullshit they had in Absolution was.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You reminded me of a Berlin food guy that i killed because he was a suit enforcer, so i figured he was a target.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it was even more open than the old games and had campy and funny dialogue. They listened to the fans with things like bringing back the briefcase in the second one, they genuinely love the original games too.
    They messed up the third game a little bit probably because a lot of the talent got laid off after splitting off from square enix.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But they split off from Squeenix after the first game not the second. I know they picked up Warner Bros funding for the second and then they lost that too before starting on 3.

      Perhaps people left because they kept zigzagging all over the place like that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I know they picked up Warner Bros funding for the second and then they lost that too before starting on 3.
        Is that how the new games feel so "cinematic"? I don't know why but they feel like movies in the best possible sense of that word.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          SA was straight up a spy movie, the newer games being movielike is more of a callback than anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        timelines a little weird, but they were most of the way done with hitman 2 before the split, the biggest change in hitman 3 was the level design and kill diversity and thats probably what was lost in the layoffs

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    maybe i just have low standards but i liked every hitman title

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the Franchise in Blood Money sent their "best" agent to kill 47
    >it's a female seductress
    Was that really their best?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How many horny teenage boys do you think got bumped off half way through the mission just because they thought it was a legit sex scene?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really like how they build their environments in the new ones. Is 3 worth buying yet?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing else like Hitman so we have no choice but to accept the WoA trilogy. It's also genuinely good which helps.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There is nothing else like Hitman
      Actually, there's the Death to Spies series and Alekhine's Gun
      play them, they're not on the level of hitman's best (although certain missions in the second Death to Spies game come close), but they're still similar games and that's all that matters
      Are there literally any other games that have the social stealth gameplay of the aforementioned games? I really want to play some similar games, bros

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Are there literally any other games that have the social stealth gameplay of the aforementioned games?
        No and I am actually surprised there are only TWO "Hitman clones" in its 22 year history.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >surprised
          why? the concept is hard to execute - we're talking about levels that are designed like a clockwork mechanism, containing NPCs with specified routes, events that have to occur at a specific time etc.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we're talking about levels that are designed like a clockwork mechanism, containing NPCs with specified routes, events that have to occur at a specific time etc.
            So literally every stealth game ever?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most stealth games feature this. They just don't have the social stealth side of things and instead rely on hiding in shadows.

              it's not the same, hitman focuses on real life locations which have a lot of people roaming about
              compare this to e.g. chaos theory, where the stages are linear, don't have as many events that have to occur, don't have as many NPCs etc.
              "dora" from death to spies 2 is an excellent example, just compare this to your average stage in any other stealth game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI2rYF5wxWs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It is absolutely the same. Just because Hitman levels are a a bit wider doesn't mean it's entirely different. And frankly, the NPCs (if you mean the ones you can't get a disguise from) are mechanically not much more than padding. Remove them and you won't have any more going on than in Chaos Theory.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Remove the main character of social stealth, the disguise system, and you won't have any more going on than in Chaos Theory
                the absolute state of this brainlet
                even the older hitman games like silent assassin have mechanically more complex stages than the entirety of chaos theory

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Listen here you little shit: As long as you don't have a gun out, it doesn't matter, at all, what kind of disguise you are wearing, to the bystander NPCs.
                In Blood Money, if you take e.g. the Mardi Gras level, the masses of people are simple carboard cutouts. I am not even sure anymore if they have an actual AI beyond "duck when loud", and iirc they don't even count towards kill count.
                It's cleverly made, sure, and looks rather impressive, but mechanically it's not different.
                In Splinter Cell you hide in the shadows, in Hitman you hide in clothes.

                But go ahead and give some examples of those mechanically complex levels.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >but mechanically it's not different.
                yes, it's totally the same bro, except shadows are clothes and they move in a determined route and work in specific places while not working in others, and they're all set in bigger, sandbox-like stages
                but it's totally the same!
                dumb gay

                Thief and Dishonoured both do "Open Level" design. The big crowds are actually a bit of an illusion because most are dumby AIs until the player does something. I understand its difficult, but it doesn't seem that much of a leap in complexity compared to other games.

                it's quite possible to do today but it's not a recipe for success since social stealth isn't a normie ge

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >and they move in a determined route and work in specific places while not working in others
                Wait, are you now talking about Hitman or Chaos Theory? Or Thief maybe?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *doesn't have the potential to be a normie genre, at least if you design the stages properly, since you have a lot of waiting around, planning and so on
                stealth as a genre overall has waiting around, planning etc. and it's already a non-normie genre, but social stealth is the "non-normie genre of the stealth genre", to phrase it creatively

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I feel the opposite actually. Hitman is actually much more accessible to normies because punishments for individual detections are more lenient due to the fact the AI has more stages than just “undetected”, “searching” and “combat”.

                Also, going guns blazing is viable in Hitman. In fact, if you watch normies play Hitman, every mission turns into a bloodbath at some point because normies can’t into sneaking for long periods of time. Plus, normies don’t see the point in doing Silent Assassin runs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if you watch normies play Hitman, every mission turns into a bloodbath at some point because normies can’t into sneaking for long periods of time
                spot on. i hate watching normies play because of this. its not even like silent assassin runs are super lengthy/tedious, you can figure out some really quick and involved ones with just a little bit of observation and planning

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Most players will resort to the blunt, brute force method because it’s fastest and requires the least brainpower (in theory, since a guns blazing run of Hitman still requires good routing to make sure you don’t get flanked and slaughtered).

                Normies don’t want to do self-imposed challenges. They want to succeed with the least amount of effort. I’m 90% certain that these kind of players are why Opportunities/Mission Stories became a thing, since IO probably knew that most casual players wouldn’t bother to look for more depth or replay the levels unless they explicitly gave them an incentive to. Doesn’t stop some people complaining that the games are “too short” or “not interesting” though.

                I don't like it. The plot is fucking retarded. I don't expect something incredible...but holy shit is the entire overblown mission impossible bullshit completely absurd. Why can't you just be a guy that gets paid to kill people. Why do you need to #savetheworld #wearthemask #respectessentialworkers? It's cringeworthy.

                You are paid to kill people, they just make the targets bad people so you don’t feel sorry for them when you repeatedly kill them in a variety of gruesome ways.

                My only real complaint about the story is that some of the more story driven targets really stretch plausibility as far as the reasons you’re given for killing them those (Sgail for example literally admits that the Washington Twins are basically collateral and nothing more).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >normie

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, the only time ive seen normies do anything close to SA is mission stories, if they happen to stumble across one when first playing a level. if theyd just stop being retarded for 5 minutes theyd realise how fun the games are when you do literally anything other than being handheld or going no russian

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *doesn't have the potential to be a normie genre, at least if you design the stages properly, since you have a lot of waiting around, planning and so on
                stealth as a genre overall has waiting around, planning etc. and it's already a non-normie genre, but social stealth is the "non-normie genre of the stealth genre", to phrase it creatively

                >if you watch normies play Hitman, every mission turns into a bloodbath at some point because normies can’t into sneaking for long periods of time
                spot on. i hate watching normies play because of this. its not even like silent assassin runs are super lengthy/tedious, you can figure out some really quick and involved ones with just a little bit of observation and planning

                go back

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                retard

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                go back

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if i just say things the 4chinners say, surely theyll think im one of them!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                cry on twitter where you belong

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Who are you quoting?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thief and Dishonoured both do "Open Level" design. The big crowds are actually a bit of an illusion because most are dumby AIs until the player does something. I understand its difficult, but it doesn't seem that much of a leap in complexity compared to other games.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most stealth games feature this. They just don't have the social stealth side of things and instead rely on hiding in shadows.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is loved by everyone even the old veterans
    have a nice day you dumb fucking retard

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >hitman 3 isn't on sale this halloween
    I dislike this.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is loved by everyone even the old veterans
    Depends on which part of the veterans you are talking about. For a lot of them the new trilogy is fine, it is quite excellent in the gameplay department.
    But for us lorefags the new games are an abomination.
    They retconned a lot of shit about the classic games in ways we did not like. For example that whole plotline with Diana's parents, or changing 47's entire personality and backstory, or reducing Dr. Ort-Meyer to a mere lackey of the generic illuminati when in the old games he was 47's true father. Did you read the tie-in comic they released in 2017? I did and it was awful, and they based the whole plot of H2 and H3 on that shitty comic, unfortunately.
    Lots of shit like that ruin the new trilogy for the autistic veteran fans like me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >caring about lore
      >especially in videogames
      There's your biggest problem.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I didn’t even know Hitman had a story lmao. The other anon is right, just read a fucking book if you want a good story. Games are for playing.

        aggressive shilling tactics only make people look at you game with disgust

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I didn’t even know Hitman had a story lmao. The other anon is right, just read a fucking book if you want a good story. Games are for playing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Story is only a detriment if it gets in the way of the gameplay. In this case its the whole whistleblowing the ICA and being forced into a splinter cell tier escape segment with only one real stealth route out of it. On the other hand though, the story gave us Berlin which is such a fucking fantastic concept holy shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Theres a story? I always just assumed i was a hitman being paid to kill a guy and thats it.

      always figured the story was only there so it didnt get an Ao Rating.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm interested in the lore can you explain some of the stuff you mentioned?
      also, why doesn't he age?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's simply genetically engineered to be on the top of his game which makes him healthier despite his age, the nutrilogy has lots of references about his age which in my mind is a way to foreshadow his retirement in a future installment but I can't imagine them designing a new assassin as iconic as him.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >but I can't imagine them designing a new assassin as iconic as him
          That's why they won't, they're moving on to James Bond next because honestly the new trilogy would fit 007 perfectly anyway.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's the result of an enhanced genetic engineering and cloning project. He's called 47 because he's the 47th clone made

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's not the 47th clone made, he's the 47th version of it. Otherwise the 48s wouldn't be 48s, and instead a 48, 49, 50...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Na, if you played codename 47 (or read the comic, or the novel) he's a series IV clone:47th.
            He was Ortmyers 'best' clone until 48, then 48 was cloned into his own series.

            Piss off.

            [...]
            It isn’t an open hitman game. It’s almost entirely linear with very few open levels.

            They also added the worst mechanic in all of hitman games in that people whose uniforms you disguise as will recognize you unless you press the “blend in” button which for some reason uses a resource meter and it just doesn’t make sense because all he does is like tip his hat or something to “blend in”.

            If you can get past the linear levels (which honestly isn’t that bad, just bad for being hit man) and get past the blend in mechanic, it truly is the best hitman plot and character-wise. Plus there’s an awesome mechanic that lets you do RDR/RDR2 bullet tag + shoot that is really satisfying.

            Tbh I’m probably gonna go replay it now. It’s a solid game just not a good hit man game.

            >it truly is the best hitman plot and character-wise. Plus there’s an awesome mechanic

            Holy fuck, I mean I'm glad you liked it but lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I cannot imagine caring about the lore of a series that ends the first game with a clone factory minigun showdown.

      Contracts has the best story exactly because it's so visceral and self-contained instead of the political illuminati shit they keep trying to pull.
      >47 gets shot and hides in some dingy apartment
      >every mission is a fever dream/memory of a previous mission
      >it's raining in every one of them because it's raining in real life too, adding to the fever dream concept that things aren't quite real
      >last mission is the only real one as 47 wakes up and has to finish the job as he's chased down by the entire city's police force
      They really need to scale things back down and make it feel more personal, I simply did not give a single shit about any of the secret society drama.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        mission is a fever dream/memory of a previous mission
        >>it's raining in every one of them
        I will now play your game

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Based, I hate this giant Illuminati CIA shit with bunch of retards in suit talking all the time, these games need more aesthetic and less bullshit.

        In general that's my biggest issue with the Nu Trilogy, the levels are too goofy, sometimes you are literally killing weird depressive incels or random women that didn't really commit anything especific. Meanwhile in the other games you were killing people directly linked to drug cartels, human traffickers, cannibals and rapists.

        I think it's the problem of making Hitman too 'marvel-esque' everything has to bee too light hearted, funny and marketable to streamers to make funny moments.

        While I love Contracts, Blood Money would be a better example of what the franchise should be, has the perfect balance of perversion, aesthetic and goofy stuff but still keeping a minimalist story.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently, the lighter tone come from them wanting to keep the tones of all the games different. So they went for a more goofy spy thriller approach instead.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I wish Nu Hitman had the amazing soundtrack 2 and Contracts had, Blood Money was also pretty good.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I do like some of the songs in the nu trilogy. I really like the exit music and the stingers that play when you do something extreme like kill/attacking someone in the open. But besides from some ambience from Paris and Mumbai, none of it is really memorable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the levels are too goofy
          what the fuck does this mean you stupid fucking sperg
          shut the fuck up your opinions are adolescent tier.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He is talking about tone, not gameplay.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly, I don’t think the tone is that much goofier than the older games. Hitman always had its share of campiness since day one. I think the difference is that only a handful of missions are set in grungy, low tech areas, so everything feels “cleaner”.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lorefags and storyfags are generally the worst part of any fandom, so consider yourself unheard and irrelevant.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only ever played Blood Money Absolution and the Trilogy, so I didn't have that issue.
      I really need to try the others sometime.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >reading books
      moron i just like playing games

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They didn’t fuck with the formula and they didn’t try to make it into a live service wankathon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they didn't try to make it into a live service wankathon much.

      FTFY
      Did you forget the new trilogy is always online with miss-able live content and piecemeal mission packs for the third one.

      They're certainly not the worst by any stretch but you can't say they didn't dig into the live service side of things

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they didn’t try to make it into a live service wankathon.
      Are you retarded? nuHITMAN 1 was literally the first big-scale live-service game to ever exist

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just wished it had more timed events. The world feels too static in the new games. Also elevators

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I actually enjoy that. I hate being timed, especially with something that encourages a tactical approach like Hitman. But I do agree, it can be a nice challenge. The Sheikh in Paris and the grieving coworker lady in Sapienza are pretty good examples; not necessary but a great reward if you make it to them in time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was in the focus group feedback thing back in 2016. I have ALWAYS suggested timed events, or at least not making them tied to proximity.
      I suggested a map with a timed map change event, like an airport where you have to get the target before they board or a train that arrives and if you're too slow it continues in a full train station or something like that.
      I also liked having separated camera circuits, but all the casuals bitched and moaned and they nerfed it.
      I also concluded all my feeback sessions with telling them how much I hated the always online bullshit, but at that time I still thought it was Squeenix' idea.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >impossible
    They just made modern Blood Money with Absolution tech. Simple as

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Im missing the new york map and island resort map.
    It's $30 to buy them both.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Berlin is such a fun map. Both in premise and design. Airport map when cowards?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      b-but member 9/11?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the third one is trash the levels suck and are tedious to traverse not to mention the last level is one big hallway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the last level is a train

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah it sucks the last levels of hitman1 and 2 are arguably the best or at least most interesting

        the finale of the entire game is a train that you can just run through without stopping

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >every person there is a target so you can kill them!
          >but you don't get silent assassin if you do

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          On any given day, if you ask me to play the train level or Sgail, I'm booting up the train without hesitation.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why did the last one redesign him to look like that homo porn star that fucks trannies?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      do you mean 'traps'? because traps aren't gay

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tl;dr IOI is full of retards at the C-level but devs in the trenches legit love Hitman and don't want it to suck. nuHitman succeeded despite every attempt from C-levels to ruin it.

    Everyone who worked on Contracts and Blood Money left the company. Retard producer wanted to make snoystyle TPS games. Kane and Lynch sucked. Absolution sucked. Director gets fired, producer can't be fired because he's a co-founder so he gets moved out of the producer role in hopes of stopping the bleeding. Square-Enix buys them out and says "Just make Blood Money you fucking retards make us money now now now." Retard Absolution producer has a vision of Hitman-As-A-Service, live games, episodic releases, leaderboards, etc. nuHitman 2016 ends up being a good game despite all the bullshit.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Codename 47 is a beloved classic?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is loved by everyone even the old veterans
    lol, lmao even

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're well-liked, at least in gameplay
      The service stuff and story stuff is eh, but that gameplay is probably the best quality out of any western AAA game in ages

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like them. I am old veteran.
        To me core gameplay is too much like Absolution with bigger maps.
        Size of maps is also a detriment as they often feel disconnected.
        Tone is James Bond as written by Joss Whedon.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BACK
    TO
    FORMULA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      WHO IS THE PHOTOGRAPHER WHO TAKES THE GAY PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        THICC AM I??!?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          JAMESON YOU BALLTEASE

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't buy them.
    Won't buy them.
    Death upon all who bought them.
    You're guilty of making the industry shittier.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I only played the 2nd, 3rd and 4th of the Classic games, I believe Contracts did the disguise/suHispanicion system the best. In 2:SA it can lead to tedious bullshit while in BM they made it pathetically easy, Contracts had the right balance. How is the system in the newer games, more like Contracts?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think the newer games have a good balance, you do have immunity against plebs but you have to watch out for enforcers that get suHispanicious unlike BM where disguises are essentially godmode and the only way to get caught is to intentionally go out of your way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So… Like Contracts?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Much shorter exposure that in Contract. You can't walk pass enforcer in nu-mans.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've only ever played Blood Money, can I get a ranking or three on the other games?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      shame about the music though, as excellent as nuHitman is to play, the experience can never quite match playing a mission start to finish in Hitman 2:SA or Blood Money with the orchestra that kicks in every time your suHispanicion meter increases.

      In my opinion, 2:SA or Blood Money are the best, followed by Contracts then Codename 47 in last place

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if Blood Money had nu-Hitman controls & graphics is would be the best by far. As it sits now it is inherently behind any game with the new controls, yes even Absolution, just because the controls of the old Hitman games are terrible.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No remakes of classic maps in the Nu engine

    What went wrong?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are we excited for freelancer, bros?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It also makes me glad they've given us so many different versions of the standard silenced pistol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. Didn't get an invite for the beta tho.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      freelancer is the HITMAN mode we all dreamed about, and now we're finally getting, so yeah I'm hard as a rock waiting for it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly the ten minute rundown video made it look overly difficult and annoying. Wow, ANOTHER game where you drop everything when you die. Thanks Dark Souls for blighting the industry with this godawful game design.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >playing Elusive Target Arcade for the unlocks
    >even with the added complications and having to do 3 targets in a row, it’s still piss easy

    I don’t know why IO have such a hard-on for ETs. They’re filler content and only a handful of them are well thought out and fun. I’d rather they just made more bonus missions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was THE big thing back in 2016, and now they are stuck with and have to act like it's the best thing ever.
      I never really liked them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The thing is that the bonus missions are kino and everyone likes them, but ETs are received in a lukewarm fashion at best. ETs aren’t even that difficult. I literally just Sieker and drown them because it’s easy and efficient.

        I’d much rather have a remixed Chongqing or Mumbai than another ET.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I know what you mean. I really liked the Marrakesh bonus mission at night, although I came to appreciate Marrakesh more after I managed to find a good SASO route.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Finally picked up 3 on my Gamepass trial
    Holy shit it's beautiful but the always online shit breaks my immersion having to reconnect every 5 min
    wtf were they thinking

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Try the Peacock server.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ive been grinding at 100%ing literally everything and im so close, bros. all thats left is mumbai, vermont, sgail, new york, and haven

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Will hitman ever have gibs or dismemberment

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >reboot is loved by everyone even the old veterans

    Huh. Not really.

    The original was way more handcrafted, nu-Hitman pretty much suffers from the same issues open world games do: everything is standardized to the point everything plays the same. I had a blast on Showstopper, then everything else got boring real fast.

    It also stopped evolving. The AI is still pretty bad, reactions are random at best, retarded most of the time, which completely breaks gameplay seeing how it's just about gaming a broken AI. It also suffers from lingering retarded issues, like the inability to perform a silent takedown on stairs or uneven terrain.

    I don't even care about the plot, to me it was always nothing more of a backdrop for some nice stealth/infiltration mechanics, but those mechanics are old and fail to improve.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >download demo of 3
    >sign in required on a IOI account to play
    Not buying. Game still ended with contracts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >not playing the best modern stealth game on the market because of retarded reasons
      your loss lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, I'm really missing out on paying a company money to play an online single player game that won't let me play unless they have my email for no reason.
        Bet you clap your feet together when a new skin releases for fortnite

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just pirate it and install mods.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't remember them asking for a login when I bought it for PS4

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the original games are beloved classics
    They really aren't. There's a niche but even they will say how bad the old games are. Even Blood Money, the supposed high point of the series is REALLY fuckin rough to play.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It's been a long time, Agent 47
    >That's not who I am anymore
    Does my dude go by "Tobias" now, or was he just pointing out that he's no longer an agent because the ICA is gone?

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Absolution as a Hitman game & for the story.
    This is the hill I'm going to die on; because I refuse to download nu-Hitman cause;
    >HM2 with HM1 attached is 110gb download
    >Nu-Hitman looks like a twink compared to the old Hitman

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >HM2 with HM1 attached is 110gb download
      Just pirate the HM3 version that includes both 1 and 2, it's 60GB because they actually bothered compressing the files.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hitman 3 with all the missions from 1 and 2 is 63GB.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      3 actually compressed the files of everything down, but the online part is somehow worse and interrupts to reconnect every so often despite 2 never doing that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I love absolution too but nu-Hitman is certainly worth playing. If the download size is what's stopping you just stop being poor.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want to pick this up but it’s an 8 hour game I’ll wait for the $15 used eBay special

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like it. The plot is fucking retarded. I don't expect something incredible...but holy shit is the entire overblown mission impossible bullshit completely absurd. Why can't you just be a guy that gets paid to kill people. Why do you need to #savetheworld #wearthemask #respectessentialworkers? It's cringeworthy.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What? I thought everyone hated that one hitman game with literal wall hacking view mode.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So did 3 bring back peepholes and allow you to use your piano wire on people in seats/stairs?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why do you need peepholes when you have x ray vision?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because I like turning that off and using the map which they designed to similar to the older games.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are some peepholes in walls, but you can’t peep through keyholes. You don’t need to anyway, since you can flip open doors while in cover.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah, well at least there is something, What about the fiber wire?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              A weird thing about the fiber wire is that you can’t use it on people who are sitting down, but you can still subdue/choke people out bare handed when they’re sitting down. I have no idea why they have one, but not the other. The Fiber Wire was nerfed pretty heavily in general. The only useful thing about it is that it’s the quietest melee weapon and allows you to instantly transition between strangling and body dragging animations.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, well alright, Thanks for the info anon. Will get it once it goes on sale again.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I need to use the bathroom

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My mouth is open.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the "hitman sense" mode that's also in 90% of modern games with similar themes, but the rest is admittedly pretty cool and you can easily turn it off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Batman vision is lame but it's a necessary evil. Modern games have so much visual noise that you need a quick "is that a usable object or background prop" button to highlight anything important.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Batman vision is lame but it's a necessary evil. Modern games have so much visual noise that you need a quick "is that a usable object or background prop" button to highlight anything important.

      I actually think Instinct is one of the best implementations of it in vidya.

      It’s not overpowered and it’s basically just a real-time map. The challenge in Hitman isn’t figuring out where the guards are, but instead figuring out how to get around them. Also, being able to track your targets real-time is a god send for strats that require precise timing.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hitman 3 has a cringe le wholesome conversation between agent 47 and a lesbian couple

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They need to remake Blood Money with nu-Hitman controls & graphics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I would settle for a remade Las Vegas in Hitman 3, which includes both the casino and the heaven and hell club.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Am I the only one who gets really OCD about leaving behind shell casings and clips when I play the levels? What’s the point of getting an accident kill if you left behind casings on the scene that can prove it was a murder? The only time I actually leave behind the casings and clips is if I want to make it perfectly clear that it was a hit. In other words, my accidents only runs are also no gunshot runs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if a piano falls on someone's head you think police are going to search every square inch of ground withing a 200m radius for any shell casings?

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i wish the game had some kind of ironman mode on top of SASO, sometimes i like to start a map by removing every equipment on 47 and just using what i see

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The first time you play Hokkaido was awesome because you go in empty. Surprised they haven't repeated that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I played through every level like that once. Unironically one of the greatest experiences I’ve ever had with a stealth game.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >finding a rat poison and being happy
        >finding a crowbar and being happy
        >finding a lethal frog and being happy
        game needs more ways to enable this feel, maybe a difficulty above master that hard locks your starting equipment and adds a bunch of bullshit to fuck you over

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a difficulty above master that hard locks your starting equipment and adds a bunch of bullshit to fuck you over
          this could be fun, i like having all my items for when im just trying to crack on with shit, but being forced to improvise when im in the mood for a challenge sounds fun

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a difficulty above master that hard locks your starting equipment and adds a bunch of bullshit to fuck you over
          this could be fun, i like having all my items for when im just trying to crack on with shit, but being forced to improvise when im in the mood for a challenge sounds fun

          actually i guess freelancer will sort of be this, to an extent

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't you also have to go in empty in Miami the first time? Granted, you have to wait for 20 mastery in Hokkaido as opposed to like 2 for Miami, but still.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know if it's exclusive to 3 but you can just choose to go into any level with no gear if you want.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Blood Money invented all the opportunities and accidents shit except that it had much less different unique ways to kill your targets compared to WoA. BMdrones need to realize that the levels they like to praise so much like Curtains Down, are just inferior versions of nu-man levels. For many targets Blood Money railroads you into like only 2-3 ways on how you can take them out without being detected. That's why Contracts will always be superior.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >want to play hitman 3
    >it's $90 for base and $130 for the expansions if you can figure out which fucking pack to buy
    Fuck off I'm not made of money.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      goes on sale all the time, tbf

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They did the unthinkable, making actually good games in current year.

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