Sure. Souls series influences are mostly relevant to BS1, by the time you reach BS2 it starts doing its own thing.
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland influenced the story more anyway.
>by the time you reach BS2 it starts doing its own thing.
It riffs a lot less off of the Souls series, but there's still plenty of references to it even in DLC 3. Looking at you, Frigid Outskirts.
>perfect JRPG
Not with that combat balancing. Art still needs some refinement, but DRH's showing that he's working on that.
Stack Screws, Golden Mead, Phalanx, and whatever gear you want (ideally focusing on bonus actions whenever possible) and lmao Hans spam through almost everything. You can get an extra boost by using Bander's covenant or swapping some gear out like Armor of the Sun or stacking God's Angels for the extra Atk edge. You'll burn through pretty much everything in the game at any point in time.
I like it so far, I'm on the first one and haven't made it out of the forest. I don't really like the dedicated rape button, male on female rape is gross. Alice seems nice though, too bad she died in the opening.
Kill Leaf. Skull crush Leaf. Roundhouse kick Leaf into the Carroll River. Slam dunk Leaf into the dungeon. Soul Break filthy Leaf. Defecate in Leaf's food. Launch Leaf into Azathoth. Stir fry Leaf with a Drake Sword. Toss Leaf into the White Void. Feed "Drink me" to Leaf. Judo throw Leaf into Alice's room. Twist Leaf's head off. Report Leaf to the Black Trial. Hundred Punch Rend Leaf in half. Curb stomp "pregnant" Leaf. Trap Leaf in the Chaos Dungeon. Crush Leaf in Grand Guignol. Force equip Leaf with a ring of Fragile Life. Eat Leaf. Dissect Leaf. Exterminate Leaf in Winterbell's chamber. Chop Leaf's legs off with orc encounters. Cremate Leaf in the Fuming Forest. Gun Break Leaf. Mandatory stomach punches for Leaf. Grind Leaf in the Slaughterhouse. Drown Leaf in fried behemoth grease. Vaporize Leaf with Hans' Machine Gun. Kick old Leaf down the stairs of Liddell House. Feed Leaf to a Boojum Snark. Slice Leaf with a Vorpal Blade.
I like it so far, I'm on the first one and haven't made it out of the forest. I don't really like the dedicated rape button, male on female rape is gross. Alice seems nice though, too bad she died in the opening.
I was in the middle of MY]R, trying to work my way through the other games to that, until I discovered Black Souls and immediately got sidetracked with that and it's sequel lol
I remember playing the first game, beating Hänsel und Gretel and then getting mad at the bird having died randomly. Wanted to redo my playthrough then but I was too lazy
I thought I could do so at my leisure but then I remembered that this game is trying to be 2D dark souls so obviously characters are going to die due to random world triggers. So I went to check on her and sure enough she had croaked. I was figuring out if I wanted to rape her and or get max rewards from her like a minmaxing fag before she croaked
>does it involve actual strategy?
Yes >is it an action rpg?
No >does it have a good magic system
Pretty standard I'd say >different builds?
Yes, but you'll be a generalist by the end game and harder boss fights are more about figuring out the right equipment and skills rathen than sticking to one build.
You can read them on Ci-en.
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/6414/article
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This website is super weird, do I have to give mister BlackSouls himself money to see the CGs?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just a follow.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
ah its just some boy.
or girl and google translate is shit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This picture was one of the first pictures i saw of this game, i though it was funny because i she looked so bored and i decided to download the game. Imagine my shock when i found out where this one is from.
>Can't post drawfag's work direct due to hiromoot's garden gnomery
If somone feels like attaching >[sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fezipch.mp3]
that would be great
https://files.catbox.moe/sjlple.png
>So, how do you talk and soul feed your partners?
Summons are gone, instead the NPCs are found around the map. You exchange souls for "covenants",as well as other things, which give various buffs
BS2 isn't Dark Souls
It's Bloodborne
Sounds like a downgrade, I like fighting with my wife Leaf and collecting companions is nice.
>So, how do you talk and soul feed your partners?
Summons are gone, instead the NPCs are found around the map. You exchange souls for "covenants",as well as other things, which give various buffs
SR is well worth playing. While it is a grand strategy, it doesn't play like a standard map painter, and is far easier to pick up than something like a Paradox game. Also, while the core mechanics are fairly simple, there is quite a bit of depth to its gameplay, and you need to actually git gud to beat the harder difficulties.
There are no jumpscares at all. Some images are in the creepy realm but nothing that it's whole merit is jumping you. If you can look at jeff the killer without screaming and turning off your computer you can do Black Souls 1.
I loved how he used the exact same style of combat you did and shows just how overwhelming you were to everyone else.
Really hope he or someone else capable of what you do comes back in BS3.
I killed Node in Ending G and read the book with the number in it. I've only gotten as far as entering Winterbell in DLC3. Is there any significance to the number later in DLC3 or is it some shit I'm too stupid to figure out? I'm dense enought that I only realized that All the convenents except maybe Lorina and the Nightmares are Grimm's children after reading Bill's "---->incestuous<---- gay in drag" line for the 50th time.
That was my first guess. I didn't think I killed sister Alice that many times
Picrel to spoiler, I'm gonna have to kill Node and clear Ending G to see the first cycle number, aren't I?
This works. Can skip killing Node by throwing yourself off the stairs in Crash Chamber 10 times and she never even appears. I gotta say, that's way fewer cycles than I expected but it probably is enough to turn end of BS1 Grimm into schizo brain-damaged BS2 Grimm. Thanks for all the help, I'm going to be discovering new shit in this game until I die.
>It's completely black in 2 due to being rewritten so many times. It's likely the sheer taint of his sins blackening his soul. Remember, that's ultimately what's going to cause his vessel to shatter as well.
It's kind of hard to give a good pitch on it, as exploring the game and piecing things together is kind of the main appeal
Basically it's a porn parody of souls games but done good and leaning hard on tricking the player and treating you like shit
Didn't stop a furry from making a successful video about F&H and Edgerunners reignited interest in Cyberpunk despite e-boi major character. Rori isn't the great wall it once was. Like a worn-filter, the gaps are slowly getting bigger and letting more scum in.
>Fear and Hunger
why did it suddenly get popular? I saw one of those faggy garden gnometubers making a hour video essay on it and he had a small rant about the sexual shit he didn't want to see
>Fear and Hunger
why did it suddenly get popular? I saw one of those faggy garden gnometubers making a hour video essay on it and he had a small rant about the sexual shit he didn't want to see
Funger was a shock factor which the average normie can't stop loving since all they ever had is a railroad fortniteslop and asset flips in unreal engine. The recipe is the guys who make this kind of shit popular are anitubers who rose up with the wave when anime became acceptable to the mass.
BS is still way too japanese-y for the most, and sexo makes it obscure enough for the average normalfag to look away from it. The worst case scenario is BS3 will become a bigger hit, then it can happen or a fagtuber picks it up, but again: normalfags don't have a lot of attention span, so it'll be most likely like Elona's case. The chew on it, then move onto the next new shiny thing.
>played BS1 a couple years ago >planned on play BS2 afterwards but never got around to it
I'm gonna replay BS1 to refresh my memory and hype myself up for 2. What are some ways to challenge myself and keep myself from breaking the game while still making it possible to clear? I think keeping the player character from using magic might be pretty good.
The difference in quality between the enemy sprites and the rest of the art is really jarring. You get some really creative, weird, imposing and/or horrific designs in battle then you see the CGs and it's all messy deviantart-tier scribbles.
Still haven't played, but I mean to. Any great mods for this game?
I know it's good on its own, but can I mod it to make it even more "custom fit" to my tastes?
>pic
well
if this got away with it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2529520/Magical_Girl_Konoha/
maybe BS 1 & 2 can too?
just gotta work hard on the all-ages version
He probably would rather not bother getting the attention and is fine as is.
There was that one time he got spooked by how his mock bloodborne twitter Olympic icon thing? that looked like a bloodborne monster post got a ton of views and said something about going into hiding.
Probably talking about this. It wasn't the Olympics but the logo for some Japanese expo that was basically a bunch of red blobs with some eyeballs mashed together in a ring.
This thing was kind of popular for a bit.
If he removes the HCGs and forces the game into non-h with a patch to restore it it would work.
But it's still a gamble with steam particularly with the game mentioning IRL Alice Liddell so many times.
Also, if the game got popular on the west there is a big chance he would get bullied out of the internet because puriteens are fucking crazy.
>Is actually fun?
Depends on your definition of fun >How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
Haven't played those >How is the lore?
Surprisingly deep for an RPGMaker game, it gets convoluted and schizophrenic in the end, in the middle and since before the beggining. >How is the combat?
Super easy in the first game, so much that the second one has stupid difficult bosses to compensate. You have to fight cheese with cheese, so it becomes more of a strategy based combat. >How is the exploration?
Lads with +100 hours in the second game are still finding new details and hidden lore/interactions. >How are the rp / choice elements?
We all go to Alice eventually. >thanks
You are welcome.
>>How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
To answer his question, in FH1 and 2 the game abuses you to no end with it's realistic mechanics, in BS1 and 2 you abuse the game
>Is actually fun?
Yes. >How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
I'm currently playing through F&H 1 now. I like the gameplay in BS2 more, it feels more fluid. The environments in BS2 do get as fucked up as the ones in F&H eventually, but it takes a really long while to get there. >How is the lore?
Arguably the main appeal, it's great. >How is the combat?
Bad-to-mediocre in 1, pretty good in 2. I wouldn't rank it above SaGa games, but it's still in my top 5 JRPGs. Lvl 1 runs in particular are really enjoyable. >How is the exploration?
It isn't as tense as in F&H/Souls series, but I enjoyed it. Game is very nonlinear, you can go pretty much anywhere you want. >How are the rp / choice elements?
The roleplay question is a bit complicated to answer, with or without spoilers. But I'd lean on the side of 'no'.
Choices mostly boil down to kill/rape/talk normally and the order you decide to explore in. There are also multiple endings, but you're expected to get them all. The game is made with multiple NG+ runs in mind.
By the by, I really started to appreciate the ability to kill anyone I want after going through BG3 and jumping right into WotR afterwards. More games should include it. Some of your retinue in WotR is just really fucking grating.
>How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
Why are you even trying to compare this LUDOKINO to that trash?
Are you some kind of tourist or something?
No but you should read Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass because both games assume you know the story of those books pretty well.
Nowhere near the NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS you'd find in Fumika, they'd still wind up fairly high for normal RPGs, especially in BS2. The closest point of comparison I could actually make to Fumika is how you approach combat, both are heavily focused on blowing your load on the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible, though bosses in BS1/2 are generally nowhere near as wallish as they are in Fumika.
I randomly stumbled on the chests behind Fumika's house and got the best thing you could get from them on the first try during my first playthrough, so I didn't understand why the rest of the game was so easy
Great game, Fumika 2 when?
Hans > literally everything else
God's Angels is nice but generally unnecessary and the rampup time and lower cap doesn't do it any favors either.
DSK's a good weapon to just go around and beat shit with, but by DLC 3 you really should just be using it for the extra action. >Miranda's Axe
lmao
For me it's Greatsword. DSA disables crits, Greatsword doesn't and still has +100% ATK. Miranda is nice but having Mow Down for easy AOE is nice and Hammer does the funny "skip phase 2 as soon as it starts" attack. Never looked at Hans but might start.
Isn't Cannon the only gun you can't do the watch trick with? Might wanna think about Shotgun instead
I was a Kishingatana enjoyer until DLC3 where it stopped being that great, then I used mainly God's Angels once I got it and the anchor for certain bosses.
saw is great imo. i got back into the game after not touching it for 2 years and started as hunter and things have been a breeze despite not really remembering the metas beyond gun clocking and stacking speed.
God's Angels is overrated. Forces you to commit one action to standard attack.
Machinegun is good all the way until DLC3 and even then it's good single target. it deletes unicorn feminist.
Deep Sea Anchor is good, but critting will be more DPS for DLC3 unless you're fishing stuns, which is useless in DLC3 for the most part.
Mirandas Axe is mid
Kishingatana is objectively best final swap wep. combo it with heroic vorpal or other weps for max Damage per turn.
Cannon is a meme. The moment you get two-faced buckler you use that.
>Machinegun is good all the way until DLC3 and even then it's good single target.
Good is a fucking understatement, and almost every notable encounter in DLC 3 is a single enemy fight. Imagine bothering to fight mobs in DLC 3.
here's the flowchart
if the enemy has evasion or any sort, you're better off using heroic vorpal sword into final swap to kishingatana and Iai/Kazegachi
If the enemy has no evasion, and you have decent crit, HMG go brrr is more DPS. HMG is also excellent applying debuffs (Unis, etc).
>if the enemy has evasion or any sort, you're better off using heroic vorpal sword into final swap to kishingatana and Iai/Kazegachi >evasion
The only fight that's really notable for evasion is Unis, and that's because you can't just lmao Absolute Precision it. I'm seriously struggling to think of notable fights where it's something you need to actually work around.
HMG has no cleave or AoE
GG is mostly group of mobs
I like HMG but I found weapon swapping and finishing with anchor, kishin or other shit more useful than unga bunga with machinegun, outside of Unis and maybe Mabel when soul farming.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>HMG has no cleave or AoE
Largely irrelevant for any real fight. >GG is mostly group of mobs
you what moron
Phase 1 is single target
Phase 2 is effectively single target (center target is the only one actually needed)
Phase 3 is two people and it's not really a challenge to laser them down with Hans
Phase 4 is single target
Phase 5 is single target
Phase 6 is effectively single target (center target is the one actually needed, again)
Phase 7 is single target
Phase 8, and really only fucking Phase 8, is multi-target, and even then it's not hard to take down the individual chunks.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
HMG is not the highest damage output per Turn unless you're a grind-autist that wasted 3 hours maxxing attack, thus the 11 turns of damage will be more DPS
but if you're just doing a 10k paramaters and not being an unga bunga 2 neuron retard, you have to weapon swap to maximize your DPS, what the game INTENDS you to do and it's own little meta, what makes the game unique as an RPG regarding gameplay.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>HMG is not the highest damage output per Turn unless you're a grind-autist that wasted 3 hours maxxing attack, thus the 11 turns of damage will be more DPS
This bro never fucking learned how to buffstack. Protip: multipliers are stupidly good.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
at the end of the day it doesn't matter because you stack buffs and debuffs most enemies get 1 shot - 2 shot no matter which top tier wep you use, and you have like 4-5 turns end game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>at the end of the day it doesn't matter
It matters for exactly what you're trying to say here though. You don't need to autismgrind in the Chaos Dungeon for hours to make Hans effective at all. 10k baseline is enough to keep yourself near or at the literal stat cap for Attack with proper buffing and gearing. The only fucking issue is the menu navigation if you don't want to burn actions, but that's a small price to pay.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
sleep, buffs wear off
dispel, buffs wear off
you have to have bonus actions or HMG set up is not good, so it's only good end game basically.
meanwhile Kishin is available midgame and Stormy ruler early game and you can do supreme storm > kishin (should have 1 bonus action around mid game) and literally 1 shot everything until end game. by the time you have the bonus actions to HMG set up you basically don't need to rely on it because everything is a joke until DLC3.
I'd argue HMG is good end game and good in DLC3, but you get HMG so early game and it's useless without bonus actions so it's gonna sit and wait its time to shine until you have 2 black rabbits.(nobody uses kuti's covenant and you don't want to rely on mistery of the night).
So basically you won't see a reliable HMG until NG+ or after doing Chaos Dungeon and getting one there on end game of first cycle.
unga bunga anchor is more reliable given you don't have to rely on two black rabbits. just indignation and mash and make sure to get 20% more stun chance. that's it. low commitment.
The true comp. advantage of HMG is not damage with stars aligned at end game. it's applying debuffs with 11 attacks.the problem is you can't swap rings mid fight, so it's specific for certain fights where the debuff is the counter.
HMG is the best weapon in the game for Single target, but only if you have the bonus actions to make it work.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>HMG set up is not good, so it's only good end game basically.
You need to take a much closer look at what you fight prior to DLC 3, because Hans STILL chews through practically everything you can fight like it's nothing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the HMG unload has a lot of build up. you need Absolute Precision and Take aim to maximize. you don't need to do with heroic vorpal > kishin
If the enemy dispels the set up can be annoying with HMG.
At the end of the day it depends how many bonus actions you have, context (how many enemies, if they dispel, if they dodge) and how fat your attack parameter is where you don't need crit as crutch anymore.
I wouldn't use HMG until I have at least 1 black rabbit or 2 bonus actions to help me set it up.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
if the enemy sleeps HMG set up is also annoying
DLC3 has many enemies with Sleep and ailments in their toolkit, including the final boss
but again it doesn't matter if you have like 3 black rabbits + twofaced buckler if you get 1 turn without dispel or CC you're set to spam the next one
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the HMG unload has a lot of build up
Build up? You must mean menu navigation, which is a fair argument to make against it, but it doesn't actually need to build up (like say, God's Angels) at all. You're at 100% effectiveness from the moment you hit Attack with it. >you need Absolute Precision and Take aim to maximize.
I think you are grossly overestimating how many enemies (let alone notable fights) have actual Eva stats. Like sure, some mobs like to evade a lot, but they're not even remotely close to being common occurrences in BS2 and you'll know when you start the fight when to pop Absolute Precision. >If the enemy dispels the set up can be annoying with HMG.
Thankfully, the vast majority of enemies don't dispel and can be killed before they dispel. Seriously, most enemies are tissue paper in BS1 and BS2, and the only time I remember losing buffs I had on is in a phase transition for GG. >At the end of the day it depends how many bonus actions you have, context (how many enemies, if they dispel, if they dodge) and how fat your attack parameter is where you don't need crit as crutch anymore.
Crit obviously helps, but it shouldn't single-handedly make the difference between success and failure. You don't need to luckshit Royal Tea to have decent crit from buffs or the like. >I wouldn't use HMG until I have at least 1 black rabbit or 2 bonus actions to help me set it up.
You can get that set up pretty early on in the game, and it only gets easier as you progress through the game. BRRs are pretty easy to farm in general either by cycling or by the Chaos Dungeon. The only time you'll be short on bonus actions is at the start of the game, and there's really nothing you'll fight there that requires you to stack bonus actions either.
I think yes. 1 is really easy and i only had to ask help to find the Iron Hans' fairy tale.
Bs2 i think maybe. I knew where to find red due the download coming with a map sketch that shows where to find her. But if i did not had it i think i would eventually find all her encounters and memories by just randomly exploring with 0 sen but i am not sure if i would have figured it out to press ESC when choosing an Alice, the only hint i know is the snow man telling you to not make a choice but that is way too vague to me catch on. After that everything including the DLCs are pretty straight foward where i did all without help
Literally the only reason I didn't get the true ending in BS2 blind is because I missed a hidden door with a memory in it because of my colorblindness I was mad
I even tried to select nothing on my own
almost impossible not to get all endings in bs1
bs2 is cryptic but certainly doable. Normal/high sen run first playthrough, 0/low sen run second, mixed run and try to put everything together on the third.
Memory flames being important should be fairly obvious, it's knowing that you have them all that's really the issue. They were also a requirement for progressing in RHW, for reference. Red marks you once you meet her 10 times, though it's fairly easy to ignore her saying that.
while I have you autists here, what was with the lone mirror in snow white's garden in BS1. was it tied to some event I never triggered or was it just there for some obscure reference to red riding woods
>Played black soul 1 and 2 >Have no idea where to go and what the fuck going on >Beat bullshit boss with my own bullshit
I have zero idea what the story all about but I do enjoy the boss fight and royalty free bgm.
You should join as many covenants as possible, also change them a lot and experiment with builds.
I suggest you don't go to the chaos dungeon until finishing ending G and exploring the deep sea, it breaks progression because it makes you OP as fuck.
ending H really makes me doubt that she's dead, at best she'll stop being sentient but still be there. i don't know what is it about her but i feel actual sadness thinking her ending, she's such a tragic character
>All three Liddell sisters, on the other hand, really are stuck inside TCO forever
??? If you mean Mother, Daughter, and Younger Sister, they're not part of TCO at all. If you actually mean Lorina, Alice, and Edith, then that doesn't make any sense either. Edith's already implied to be dead by her boss fight dialogue, which should only leave her soul left, and given her presence alongside Leopold's in the Chaos Dungeon (a place where past and future are said to mix), they're probably not stuck in TCO in any way at all. Alice's soul was in the white prison in G, and should still be freed with the destruction of GG in H regardless. Lorina's the only one with any possible claim of being stuck in the dream, but with the destruction of the garden I don't see any real reason why she would remain stuck there at all either.
Edith is in Shatranj, and it's implied to have been BS1 Catherine. I had a schizo theory that DRH's Charlotte could be related to Lorina since that's her middle name, but the latest update showed her being far too gay for that.
well, if ending H is the cannon one, TCO is not dead, so Prickett is alive. if ending G is cannon, then she's dead and the three sister souls are released.
>knight sword >club >spear >beastsaw
which one should i upgrade? my damage looks shit, i regret playing as a knight
Knight Sword is good. Knight's Price is an excellent buff.
Spear's counter 100% of the time is useful vs some scenarios. specifically Prince of hell
club is shit
beastsaw is only ok early game. then it's outclassed.
>both G and H break the cycles G explicitly doesn't break the cycle. We are drawn back into the garden due to our bond with GG, which is the root cause of the cycles in the first place as well. H is the only cyclebreaker in BS2, and that's because GG's out of the picture by the end of it.
the real little sisters never entered or have anything to do with TCO's wonderland. jubjub, bander and zombie bitch are LARPing as the three Alice's respectively, with whoever you choose as the alice who helps you at the end.
Pricket is an outer god, she's just visitting TCO's garden, same as Node they were accomplices of Alice's semen harvest factory but they regret it after realizing how horrible it is
the real little sisters never entered or have anything to do with TCO's wonderland. jubjub, bander and zombie bitch are LARPing as the three Alice's respectively, with whoever you choose as the alice who helps you at the end.
Pricket is an outer god, she's just visitting TCO's garden, same as Node they were accomplices of Alice's semen harvest factory but they regret it after realizing how horrible it is
Pricket is a part of TCO. She came earlier than the rest of it, and saved Grimm from Mary Sue, bringing him in the endless tea party, larping as Alice n.1. But then the Black Rabbit was jealous, and prayed Mary Sue to separate them, allowing Mary Sue to kill Pricket/Alice n.1 and starting the events of Black Souls 1
the three sisters never visited wonderland
Incorrect, they were all swallowed by it due to Lorina and Liddell's wish. Edith refused to play her assigned role and was thrown in the mental ward, Lorina sold her soul and became the queen of heart, Alice's soul was imprisoned and used as a blueprint for the Alices.
prickett is another part of Nyarlathotep that split, anon. she's the alice you see during the tea party cutscene and the same alice that shows you out of the TCO during ending H, that's why she slithers out of the masses of alice, no other outer god is insane enough to hang out with the TCO anymore
most of the gods have left the party, but the three nightmares, hidden princess and cheeky oyster are legitimate visitors still, separate into naive and crazy where appropriate. And Sho, but she's a bit too dense
>the real little sisters never entered or have anything to do with TCO's wonderland.
Bro, you seriously need to go back and replay BS2 because literally every fucking thing you said in this post is wrong. All three of them are present in Wonderland. The real Alice is in the white prison in G, Lorina's present as the Queen of the Heart in the base game, and Edith's demonbeast form is in the Mental Ward. All three of them are the legit Liddells. >jubjub, bander and zombie bitch are LARPing as the three Alice's respectively, with whoever you choose as the alice who helps you at the end. They're not LARPing as Lorina, Alice, and Edith. They're LARPing as three entirely different versions of Alice. Whoever you choose as you Alice is NOT who helps you at the end, the only one that helps you at the end is Jubjub AKA Younger Sister Alice. >Pricket is an outer god, she's just visitting TCO's garden, same as Node they were accomplices of Alice's semen harvest factory but they regret it after realizing how horrible it is Prickett is LITERALLY TCO and she's not exactly subtle about this point either. She's not some random fuck just visiting it, she's literally a central part of the moronman itself.
So what's the story of Lorde and the Doll? Those two character amongst the few that I still don't know anything about. I know it's a meme that Grimm cucks Lorde, but I have no idea how or why
lorde (André de Lorde irl) was the most famous playwright of the Grand Guignol, which was an actual theatre in 20th century france. in BS2 lorde created the grand guignol which then node took and created by using leafs powers, resulting in a second incarnation of the GG. lorde then ends up in winterbell looking for the GG which doesn't care about him and wants to merge with Grimm, and you just beat up lorde. that's about it
The only limitation for upgrading is ore slabs, and those can be gotten by cycling or spending a fuckton of souls. Knight Sword's one of the better weapons in the game defensively speaking. Club's kinda shit. Spear's really shit. Beastsaw's decentish early on. Assuming you're playing BS2, you can find the best offensive weapon in the opening areas of the game, but BS2's easy enough that you really don't need to minmax this early on in the game.
Edith is in Shatranj, and it's implied to have been BS1 Catherine. I had a schizo theory that DRH's Charlotte could be related to Lorina since that's her middle name, but the latest update showed her being far too gay for that.
>Edith is in Shatranj, and it's implied to have been BS1 Catherine.
???? BS1 Catherine's the fucking summon in Oxward. She is in no way taking the role of Edith in BS2.
Knight sword has an extremely good buff that'll help you out
Club is complete dogshit
Gugnir has an extremely good damage skill, and with 100% counter you can try to turtle up the fights you can't deal with
Sawblade is the one with most damage of the options you listed
However, by this point of the game you should have found some better stuff, iirc the axe is in rabbit hole (must defeat a dark spirit for it) and great sword is a drop from a early game boss, explore more
it's good that it's not
would you want those gay reactionary streamers to grab this game like they did with Fear and hunger and attract all the normalfags?
In fact, this game keeps normalfags away, with the eroge acting as a nice protection from casual masses. keeps them away.
Mary Sue's magnum opus
she made a creation based on a creator. it's immortal yet based on a human. can grow + immortal + has powers to create, albeit right now limited. prob in BS3 he'll power up on creation powers. he did the snowmen in all his loops and he left them as notes
>he did the snowmen in all his loops and he left them as notes
What the fuck is up with posts like these? Did someone just read the cliffnotes of BS2 and not actually play the game? Jabber's the one making the snowmen in the base game, and the game's very clear about this point too. You literally stop off at her personal fucking snowman making hideout just before entering DLC 3.
>JRPG
I think Black Souls is what media in general would be if fiction wasnt held back by our society moral standards.
Grimm being a complete degenerate and the player being given the chance to indulge on the vile actions as him make the already well written story so much better.
But then again, I truly believe EMMM is a genius writer, so its safe to say not many writers are capable of writing a story like Black Souls.
there's something I don't understand
people say the [spoiler sisters got trapped in wonderland but in the memory of Caroll alice is already an old lady [/spoiler]
it's conflicting with your theory. to me it sounds like Caroll is the one that made the evil wish, not the sisters.
I thought the same.
I didn't go full lore autism on the game when I played it, but I remember the memory stating that Caroll was cursing his life because his little e-boi grew up while he was being a neet autist and before he knew it he was old and so was she.
I know Mary Sue is the one that made a creation based on him, but I don't understand if she stole his soul or just made a copy of him and created her own version of him, Grimm.
is the Old King Baphomet from BS1 ? how the fuck did TCO steal Grimm from when Grimm destroyed Mary Sue's garden?
it's been a while since I played but I'd appreciate clarity on this
You should really replay BS1 C and D. Grimm is a composite creation, made with the souls of multiple authors all shoved into a single immortal vessel. >is the Old King Baphomet from BS1 ? It is neither Baphomet (Nameless Demon (true Baphomet)) or "Baphomet" (Shub-Niggurath). The Old King is strongly implied to be from the original tea party. >how the fuck did TCO steal Grimm from when Grimm destroyed Mary Sue's garden? Literally BS1 D. I don't know how else to say that, but BS1 D gives TCO that opportunity to crash Mary's party.
And Grimm is a chad knight despite being a bunch of old men. What you see in the game are vessels for their souls not their old bodies. And all of them made their wishes separately
Grimm is not many people but rather a creation based on many writers, Caroll included.
it would've been nicer that the 6 memories would be of 6 different people, but it's all just Caroll, who is probably the main part of Grimm.
Grimm is immortal + based on humans so he has all the components to be an Outer God or better because he can grow and learn while Outer Gods have their strength capped and cannot go beyond their current power level.
Black Souls 3 will probably have more than one Garden, more party members, amassing an army to fight a war against the outer gods respectively and I wouldn't be surprised is Node, Mabel, etc come back and side under Grimm's banner. Mabel even throws the 4 elemental outer gods as future enemies. probably gonna expand on Grimm's creation powers to make the BS1 cast return as party members I wonder what role will Mary sue play seeing her creation become a threat to the other Gods. Prob gonna be your party member and use you to kill the competition
hotel poseidon scene? that's just PTSD putting bitches back into their books
but now that you mention it, i see.
would explain the schizo narrations in the eroge scenes too.
>that's just PTSD putting bitches back into their books Half correct. The hotel flashback is exactly that, but the scene with you surrounded by the other BLACKSOULS™ right after you're done PTSDing over BS1 C takes place in the current time, with the other souls that compose what we know as Grimm.
I thought it was just Grimm feeling guilt about killing all those bitches and the black souls surrounding him where the girls from BS1, not the souls inside of him.
See the above and pic related.
is buying color souls worth it?
At your point in time probably not, you're likely still better off doing basic levels. Eventually though they'll be the bulk of your overall stats.
so Grimm is made up by 8 souls, 9 including him?
damn this is some naruto level of junchuuriki shit
this game was too depressing. gonna play patapon or kirby jesus
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If we take what we see there at face value, yes. There's three central souls that we know of currently though, Lewis, Andersen, and Grimm. This is based off what we hear from Mary in BS1 C, and all three pop up throughout both games. You can blame most of the dickylust on Lewis, most of the gayry on Andersen, and Grimm for the saviorfag shit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the MC of this game is a pedophile, a homosexual and a broken man sharing a body
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Quite hilarious when you think about it, isn't it? And there's still likely other souls that haven't really shown their own mental malfunctions yet.
You can see Andersen clearly taking over in big parts of DLC 3 content.
For Gerda: Whenever shes talking about her supposed "father" the game tricks you into thinking shes talking about her "dad" but if you rape and kill her the game pretty much shoves it in your face that she was talking about (You) (Andersen) all along.
For Lingeriena: Andersen pretty much forces your hand in trying to kill her, you just get to "choose" whether to have sex with her before that.
I would go as far as to say that whenever you choose to kill someone, its Andersens psychotic murderhobo tendencies taking over.
You also have several instances of his murderous impulses trying to take control even in normal speech, and also the end of Gerda's questline is especially notable for the options presented to you.
I thought it was just Grimm feeling guilt about killing all those bitches and the black souls surrounding him where the girls from BS1, not the souls inside of him.
>Be Edith Liddel >Die at like 20 >Get pulled back by alien degenerates as a goof, now 8 years old again >Have no idea what's going on >Get shoved into a padded room >Have exactly one friend that leaves forever >Get pumped full of anti-lithium and old god goop >Die again >Have like three lines of dialogue total
Bitch had it rough
There's some speed rings scattered around the early game areas, Speed's the most important stat to get up until you hit 1000 so if you have some of those try putting them on. Defending is a 1.5x Speed multiplier from what I remember, but you'll want to abuse it with either knives, something like the Guardian Bunker, or bonus actions which I doubt you have considering where you're currently stuck. When in doubt, you can always just buy some Yellow Souls from the Library Dream too.
>all the npcs in Ending G that you kill in the first room's of the nightmare are Grimm's children right? Almost all. Lorina's not your child. B shows who most of your children are, and [spoiler]DLC 3 shows them all.[/spoiler]
>perfect JRPG
Not with that combat balancing. Art still needs some refinement, but DRH's showing that he's working on that.
Stack Screws, Golden Mead, Phalanx, and whatever gear you want (ideally focusing on bonus actions whenever possible) and lmao Hans spam through almost everything. You can get an extra boost by using Bander's covenant or swapping some gear out like Armor of the Sun or stacking God's Angels for the extra Atk edge. You'll burn through pretty much everything in the game at any point in time.
[...]
SEQUEL threads are two boards down.
>perfect JRPG
Not with that combat balancing. Art still needs some refinement, but DRH's showing that he's working on that.
Stack Screws, Golden Mead, Phalanx, and whatever gear you want (ideally focusing on bonus actions whenever possible) and lmao Hans spam through almost everything. You can get an extra boost by using Bander's covenant or swapping some gear out like Armor of the Sun or stacking God's Angels for the extra Atk edge. You'll burn through pretty much everything in the game at any point in time.
[...]
SEQUEL threads are two boards down.
>300 base CGs already finished, not counting variants >70 H CGs, potentially still more >expects to draw another 150 fucking CGs
He's really working on his art, at least.
i think he needs to sit down an learn the human anatomy, because there's instances where his proportions are all over the place. his personal style and colors are all great but seing some squiggly lines for hands is bothering me
we have to be harsher on him if we want the games to be even better anon
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The art is never going to be good. I'd rather he doesn't take 10 years before I can see the end to this fucking story
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The art is never going to be good.
Sistine Chapel material, probably not, but even comparing his art from RHW to BS1, or BS1 to BS2 shows that he's definitely improving.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
half of the reason he's making 2 spinoff games is to improve his art, anon
I thought about making an rpg with a cast of literally insane women a few years back but figured it was just way too niche. This thread is giving me hope, gonna do some research on the games now thanks
Oh shit nvm youre right. I forgot her normal form look looks nothing like her. I actually thought it has to be Cthulu-chan or something, close enough lmao
uh... i may have fucked up the chicken questline, i probably forgot to talk to him and now that i'm finished with the duchess, he stays outside the mansion, what do i do?
Dark Souls?
>rpg maker rtp
😐
>rpg maker rtp JAPAN
:O
Can I play this if I have zero interest in Dark Souls?
Sure. Souls series influences are mostly relevant to BS1, by the time you reach BS2 it starts doing its own thing.
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland influenced the story more anyway.
>by the time you reach BS2 it starts doing its own thing.
It riffs a lot less off of the Souls series, but there's still plenty of references to it even in DLC 3. Looking at you, Frigid Outskirts.
Yeah, but it's more enjoyable when the references don't fly over your head.
Yes
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Anybody remember how to do unga bunga weapon swap strats? I've been away from the game for a while and I don't remember the best combos.
>stack multiple turn equipment
>use multi hitting weapon
>switch to stronger weapon
That sword you get in DLC3 is good for this.
Jesus Christ!! Thanks anon
>perfect JRPG
Not with that combat balancing. Art still needs some refinement, but DRH's showing that he's working on that.
Stack Screws, Golden Mead, Phalanx, and whatever gear you want (ideally focusing on bonus actions whenever possible) and lmao Hans spam through almost everything. You can get an extra boost by using Bander's covenant or swapping some gear out like Armor of the Sun or stacking God's Angels for the extra Atk edge. You'll burn through pretty much everything in the game at any point in time.
SEQUEL threads are two boards down.
have a nice day pedo
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based.
the eldritch horrror screams ruin it
t. Red Hood
She's actually 19 or so.
>She's actually 19 or so.
Yeah anon, sure she is. Sure
Kill Leaf. Skull crush Leaf. Roundhouse kick Leaf into the Carroll River. Slam dunk Leaf into the dungeon. Soul Break filthy Leaf. Defecate in Leaf's food. Launch Leaf into Azathoth. Stir fry Leaf with a Drake Sword. Toss Leaf into the White Void. Feed "Drink me" to Leaf. Judo throw Leaf into Alice's room. Twist Leaf's head off. Report Leaf to the Black Trial. Hundred Punch Rend Leaf in half. Curb stomp "pregnant" Leaf. Trap Leaf in the Chaos Dungeon. Crush Leaf in Grand Guignol. Force equip Leaf with a ring of Fragile Life. Eat Leaf. Dissect Leaf. Exterminate Leaf in Winterbell's chamber. Chop Leaf's legs off with orc encounters. Cremate Leaf in the Fuming Forest. Gun Break Leaf. Mandatory stomach punches for Leaf. Grind Leaf in the Slaughterhouse. Drown Leaf in fried behemoth grease. Vaporize Leaf with Hans' Machine Gun. Kick old Leaf down the stairs of Liddell House. Feed Leaf to a Boojum Snark. Slice Leaf with a Vorpal Blade.
I can appreciate the effort put into it
posting obama ghosts
I'm starting to pity the bird who has every intention to stab everyone in the ass.
I like it so far, I'm on the first one and haven't made it out of the forest. I don't really like the dedicated rape button, male on female rape is gross. Alice seems nice though, too bad she died in the opening.
you are a massive fag
>male on female rape is gross
You'd love the opposite, huh.
>male on female rape is gross
As opposed to?
ALICE
300 CGs done, 150 left.
Can't wait for BS3 in 2042
How optimistic of you thinking he doesn't end pulling a Miura instead.
The translator is also missing since the ukraine war started.
The game's never coming out is it?
It's 2 games now
I'm happy to have just *a* game being released.
Too bad there's no good guides for the game, especially with how fucking cryptic everything is.
The only decent one is incomplete.
guide bs1
https://pastebin.com/tANDVMzn
guide bs2
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aQAFJKY6tBF-HDrtRlvV1f6sfTCmMuQFfvQcmyjvSoc/edit
But if you use them on your first playthrough, you should kys.
I remember there was one the anons created, but they took it down because people can't think for themselves.
Black souls is overrated, posting a better jrpg AND a better eroge
It's good but as good as BS. I wish somebody translated NPC dreams already.
I was in the middle of MY]R, trying to work my way through the other games to that, until I discovered Black Souls and immediately got sidetracked with that and it's sequel lol
I don't have access to my PC currently
Can i play them on my mac or android phone?
It should work on JoiPlay
>mac
It works on GNU/Linux, so it should also work on Mac if you set up Wine.
>you set up Wine.
Have been wanting to do that since a long time. Will probably get on that
Will look into it
1 was better
Is there any estimation of when Red's game will release?
Next year, unless the dev wants to increase the CGs again.
When EMMM finishes playing AC and Starfield.
Toro's game got delayed
Fuck
>BS3 will eventually be influenced by elden ring (which already had weird parallels to BS) and AC6
wait what ? i didnt play elden ring but i dont care please tell me more
I remember playing the first game, beating Hänsel und Gretel and then getting mad at the bird having died randomly. Wanted to redo my playthrough then but I was too lazy
>then getting mad at the bird having died randomly
Why didn't you free her?
I thought I could do so at my leisure but then I remembered that this game is trying to be 2D dark souls so obviously characters are going to die due to random world triggers. So I went to check on her and sure enough she had croaked. I was figuring out if I wanted to rape her and or get max rewards from her like a minmaxing fag before she croaked
How is it perfect? does it involve actual strategy? is it an action rpg? does it have a good magic system or different builds?
>does it involve actual strategy?
Yes
>is it an action rpg?
No
>does it have a good magic system
Pretty standard I'd say
>different builds?
Yes, but you'll be a generalist by the end game and harder boss fights are more about figuring out the right equipment and skills rathen than sticking to one build.
Why don't you stop being a gay and fucking play it instead?
There's something weirdly arousing about this guy's art. I hear about people skipping the sex scenes all the time what a bunch of homosexuals.
Sure, give the link of both games with English translation.
Read the fucking thread you negative IQ numbskull
it was already posted
Not in the thread you double retard. There's only a guide
https://pastebin.com/1uTZ3ZRz
Much obliged Anon.
Why are you such a bitch about a simple question?
Why are you such a homosexual brainless sheep that you can't formulate your own opinions and have to ask others to make it for you?
Calm down, spastic.
All me btw
I have a holy duty to uphold.
>The red spilling from the wounds turns black.
Frapollo, please make more Black Souls videos.
Make it yourself, gay
Wild Arms
Do you think Toro will ever make them fuck in the future?
No
But there's this
did he really turn poro into a girl
thats so fucking based
Read the dev logs
Not him but where?
You can read them on Ci-en.
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/6414/article
This website is super weird, do I have to give mister BlackSouls himself money to see the CGs?
Just a follow.
ah its just some boy.
or girl and google translate is shit.
This picture was one of the first pictures i saw of this game, i though it was funny because i she looked so bored and i decided to download the game. Imagine my shock when i found out where this one is from.
am him but where
another boy fallen victim to feminization
Someone post the Bill webm.
>[x] Glass him.
thread theme
>lingeriena
literally asking to get raped
Asking to be comforted with a hug
Her begging you not to kill her while you raped her was hot.
Leaf i can forgive but this bitch is KILL every run
Very appropriate pic.
i dont remember her from the game
She's a central character in DLC 3, you literally have to interact with her to beat it.
ok that makes sense then
I sure hope you're not opening spoilers before beating the game, anon.
>Can't post drawfag's work direct due to hiromoot's garden gnomery
If somone feels like attaching
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that would be great
https://files.catbox.moe/sjlple.png
>regular black souls
>not TAINTED Black Souls
ngmi
no wonder he kept losing to Grimm
Absolutely based, thanks anon
I was hoping the audio would be some AI voiceover.
>he
>his
If Lindamea is a girl, I'll riot and call EMMM a fucking hack.
>Everyone in the card set is a woman
>Lindamea is unchanged
>Everyone in the card set is a woman
Well yeah, that's that artist's thing. They make female versions of basically everyone from what I remember.
I'm aware, I just find it a bit funny. I don't care either way as long as Lindamea still hates Grimm's guts.
Lindamea X Grimm hatefuck?
The card set wasn't even made by EMMM.
>Bill
>Snake God
>Hansel
To be perfectly honest, I deliberately forget that those characters exist.
It's official merchandise, but shouldn't really be considered canon either way.
>this fanart means my headcannon confirmed
very dumb poster
Yes.
I want to play DLC3, but I cant be arsed to grind all over again...
I heard BS2 removed the hub from the first game which was pure SOVL. So, how do you talk and soul feed your partners?
You don't. Partners get replaced with covenants.
Sounds like a downgrade, I like fighting with my wife Leaf and collecting companions is nice.
>He lacks critical information
It is but BS2 goes for a different tone than 1 and the lack of companions ties into that.
Although, companions return in DLC3
My Brother
But meat wall will be your loyal battle companion!
Highly targetable wall of meat, my beloved.
>So, how do you talk and soul feed your partners?
Summons are gone, instead the NPCs are found around the map. You exchange souls for "covenants",as well as other things, which give various buffs
BS2 isn't Dark Souls
It's Bloodborne
It's very good but definitely not perfect
>perfect RPG
>is coomer shit
your appeal is invalidated from the word "go"
>perfect RPG
>is coomer shit
Yes?
Anons really don't remember the good ol' days of Sengoku Rance/MGQ, do they?
MGQ's practically unknown by the current generation.
Aren't there like three spin-off games or something?
You mean Paradox? That's literally the FF7R of eroge.
I never played sengoku rance.
I don't really enjoy grand strategy games too much, is this one more fun than the others?
SR is well worth playing. While it is a grand strategy, it doesn't play like a standard map painter, and is far easier to pick up than something like a Paradox game. Also, while the core mechanics are fairly simple, there is quite a bit of depth to its gameplay, and you need to actually git gud to beat the harder difficulties.
Also, the OST is a banger.
>zoom zoom zoomie zoomer
does this game have jumpscares? im a fucking pussy
thanks, how about black souls 1
There are no jumpscares at all. Some images are in the creepy realm but nothing that it's whole merit is jumping you. If you can look at jeff the killer without screaming and turning off your computer you can do Black Souls 1.
Only 2, you can disable 1 and the 2nd one is on dlc3
A few, it doesn't heavily rely on them and you can miss a couple of them in normal play.
Maybe 2 total, depends on how much of a pussy you are honestly.
i think i can handle it. even if they're loud. i really hope they arent loud
Not loud
The gameplay in BS2 is unironically super fun, I really liked how much the game encourages you to abuse your tools
I loved how he used the exact same style of combat you did and shows just how overwhelming you were to everyone else.
Really hope he or someone else capable of what you do comes back in BS3.
Is that the one with the dog girl carrying a rifle? Or was that a different one?
I assume you mean pic related, in which case yes.
Underrated girl
Alice!
I killed Node in Ending G and read the book with the number in it. I've only gotten as far as entering Winterbell in DLC3. Is there any significance to the number later in DLC3 or is it some shit I'm too stupid to figure out? I'm dense enought that I only realized that All the convenents except maybe Lorina and the Nightmares are Grimm's children after reading Bill's "---->incestuous<---- gay in drag" line for the 50th time.
>or is it some shit I'm too stupid to figure out?
It's this. It's your cycle count. Try checking it on a new file, for extra giggles.
That was my first guess. I didn't think I killed sister Alice that many times
Picrel to spoiler, I'm gonna have to kill Node and clear Ending G to see the first cycle number, aren't I?
Just subtract the number of cycles you've been through
Get your SEN to 0 through Black Souls or Blackwell's meds, kill Node and check the book.
do the contents change with her dead, or is it just to get her fake-sleeping but fuckable ass out of the way?
The latter.
This works. Can skip killing Node by throwing yourself off the stairs in Crash Chamber 10 times and she never even appears. I gotta say, that's way fewer cycles than I expected but it probably is enough to turn end of BS1 Grimm into schizo brain-damaged BS2 Grimm. Thanks for all the help, I'm going to be discovering new shit in this game until I die.
in both BS1 and BS2 the book on the table is Grimm's own fairy tale. It's completely black in 2 due to being rewritten so many times.
>It's completely black in 2 due to being rewritten so many times.
It's likely the sheer taint of his sins blackening his soul. Remember, that's ultimately what's going to cause his vessel to shatter as well.
pretty much, there's also the failure in the bar at the start calling you papa, one of your children who never found a form appealing enough.
So you never understood or even gotten End B?
>why yes, i did fuck Bill in order to lure down his vile trapgod so that i could kill both of those filthy sodomites, what gave it away?
Red Hoods when?
sell me on this
Uh... anon? I get the appeal of doll joints but that thing wants your soul
You wouldn't disappoint your dear mother, right?
...
Don't look at me like that.
Im going to Leaf
It's kind of hard to give a good pitch on it, as exploring the game and piecing things together is kind of the main appeal
Basically it's a porn parody of souls games but done good and leaning hard on tricking the player and treating you like shit
Our game is safe right bros? It won't become mainstream like Fear and Hunger did right?
>Our game is safe right bros?
Nothing is safe forever, there are only barriers to entry.
too late
The day this happens is the day he gets in the oven
Caves of Qud deserved everything that happened to it
What happened?
Same as always. He ginned up broad interest in a community that did not want it.
It's a single player game though, isn't it?
Oh well.
I'm afraid it's only a matter of time. Although I pray that the e-bois, porn and rape serve us well to filter the majority of normalfags.
e-boiporn is the mainstream barrier
Didn't stop a furry from making a successful video about F&H and Edgerunners reignited interest in Cyberpunk despite e-boi major character. Rori isn't the great wall it once was. Like a worn-filter, the gaps are slowly getting bigger and letting more scum in.
Naah, F&H isn't nowhere near as NG as Black Souls.
F&H has 0 e-boirape and most fans don't even play the game
>comparing F&H and Edgerunners e-boi content to Black Souls
You didnt play the games, did you
>Fear and Hunger
why did it suddenly get popular? I saw one of those faggy garden gnometubers making a hour video essay on it and he had a small rant about the sexual shit he didn't want to see
Rape is now an acceptable fetish to have.
>rape
>e-boi
>newborn e-boi rape
>game uses the word gay
>liberal use of the term moronman outside the game
I think we're safe
>newborn e-boi ape
where
Well anon? How did it feel for you?
Definitely
Funger was a shock factor which the average normie can't stop loving since all they ever had is a railroad fortniteslop and asset flips in unreal engine. The recipe is the guys who make this kind of shit popular are anitubers who rose up with the wave when anime became acceptable to the mass.
BS is still way too japanese-y for the most, and sexo makes it obscure enough for the average normalfag to look away from it. The worst case scenario is BS3 will become a bigger hit, then it can happen or a fagtuber picks it up, but again: normalfags don't have a lot of attention span, so it'll be most likely like Elona's case. The chew on it, then move onto the next new shiny thing.
are women into this? I only want a gf that likes black souls
I've seen vtumors play it
and I know one girl irl who did
>and I know one girl irl who did
tell us about her
Not a gf material I'll tell you that.
why playing black souls makes her gf material to me for having good taste
What's this game about? Not really versed in what a jrpg means.
My interest is piqued, I'm a bit confused but I guess I'll have to play the game anyways so it's all good.
>What's this game about?
Love
Insanity and sexual violence.
Pic related
It's a game about Alice and ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE
>played BS1 a couple years ago
>planned on play BS2 afterwards but never got around to it
I'm gonna replay BS1 to refresh my memory and hype myself up for 2. What are some ways to challenge myself and keep myself from breaking the game while still making it possible to clear? I think keeping the player character from using magic might be pretty good.
Just don't level up. Locking yourself out of all the tools available to you is a bad idea.
Jack did nothing wrong.
If Leopold did nothing wrong, how come he didn't get to stay together with Edith
Fact
Does he have a questline or anything you can help him on?
Feels weird to just murder him after you learn what his actual deal is
Fucking Gretel and ignoring Hansel is the best choice
Fucking Hansel and ignoring Gretel is the best choice
The difference in quality between the enemy sprites and the rest of the art is really jarring. You get some really creative, weird, imposing and/or horrific designs in battle then you see the CGs and it's all messy deviantart-tier scribbles.
graphicsfag. Can't appreciate real art.
The enemy sprites are royalty-free assets
I want to make a porn game using rpg maker but I'm scared. If it became trash? If I get filtered by rpg maker? Bros...
rpgmaker is the game engine for people that can't program so you will be fine.
It's better to fail hundreds of times than to never try at all
It's going to be trash but that's fine.
Red Hood's Woods was trash too.
Still haven't played, but I mean to. Any great mods for this game?
I know it's good on its own, but can I mod it to make it even more "custom fit" to my tastes?
Only meme mods.
i'm not sure what mods you could even make for BS2, like I just can't think of anything i'd change or add
>RPGMaker
>Mods
lol
lmao even
They actually exist for BS, BS2 specifically. Can't speak at all to their quality, they're in fucking moron and chink last I heard.
you don't even know about the local mp mod, get out
aside from the DLC bullshit bosses that is
Rape, especially child rape will keep out normies thankfully
e-boi love!
>pic
well
if this got away with it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2529520/Magical_Girl_Konoha/
maybe BS 1 & 2 can too?
just gotta work hard on the all-ages version
It's not going to happen
He probably would rather not bother getting the attention and is fine as is.
There was that one time he got spooked by how his mock bloodborne twitter Olympic icon thing? that looked like a bloodborne monster post got a ton of views and said something about going into hiding.
>bloodborne twitter Olympic icon
what does it look like
Probably talking about this. It wasn't the Olympics but the logo for some Japanese expo that was basically a bunch of red blobs with some eyeballs mashed together in a ring.
This thing was kind of popular for a bit.
It's going to be impossible, Rance couldn't make it.
If he removes the HCGs and forces the game into non-h with a patch to restore it it would work.
But it's still a gamble with steam particularly with the game mentioning IRL Alice Liddell so many times.
Also, if the game got popular on the west there is a big chance he would get bullied out of the internet because puriteens are fucking crazy.
AAhh Cosmos, The Night Sky
I'm glad this game will never go through the shit Fear and Hunger has, helps that it auto filters normalfags with e-bois.
Can somebody TL;DR on this game?
Is actually fun?
How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
How is the lore?
How is the combat?
How is the exploration?
How are the rp / choice elements?
thanks
Just try Black Souls 1, it's at most 10 hours long, not very hard besides the very beginning, and you'll know whether you enjoy it a few hours in.
>Is actually fun?
Depends on your definition of fun
>How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
Haven't played those
>How is the lore?
Surprisingly deep for an RPGMaker game, it gets convoluted and schizophrenic in the end, in the middle and since before the beggining.
>How is the combat?
Super easy in the first game, so much that the second one has stupid difficult bosses to compensate. You have to fight cheese with cheese, so it becomes more of a strategy based combat.
>How is the exploration?
Lads with +100 hours in the second game are still finding new details and hidden lore/interactions.
>How are the rp / choice elements?
We all go to Alice eventually.
>thanks
You are welcome.
>>How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
To answer his question, in FH1 and 2 the game abuses you to no end with it's realistic mechanics, in BS1 and 2 you abuse the game
>We all go to Alice eventually.
>Is actually fun?
Yes.
>How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
I'm currently playing through F&H 1 now. I like the gameplay in BS2 more, it feels more fluid. The environments in BS2 do get as fucked up as the ones in F&H eventually, but it takes a really long while to get there.
>How is the lore?
Arguably the main appeal, it's great.
>How is the combat?
Bad-to-mediocre in 1, pretty good in 2. I wouldn't rank it above SaGa games, but it's still in my top 5 JRPGs. Lvl 1 runs in particular are really enjoyable.
>How is the exploration?
It isn't as tense as in F&H/Souls series, but I enjoyed it. Game is very nonlinear, you can go pretty much anywhere you want.
>How are the rp / choice elements?
The roleplay question is a bit complicated to answer, with or without spoilers. But I'd lean on the side of 'no'.
Choices mostly boil down to kill/rape/talk normally and the order you decide to explore in. There are also multiple endings, but you're expected to get them all. The game is made with multiple NG+ runs in mind.
By the by, I really started to appreciate the ability to kill anyone I want after going through BG3 and jumping right into WotR afterwards. More games should include it. Some of your retinue in WotR is just really fucking grating.
Was in any way the author of the game inspired by this anime and combined it with darksouls?
Gonna check it out.
>How it compares with Fear & Hunger 1 and 2?
Why are you even trying to compare this LUDOKINO to that trash?
Are you some kind of tourist or something?
Would black souls work without the rape ability?
Rape is part of the game mechanics
So no
There's even a special event that happens once you filled out the rape dungeon
BS2 > F&H > BS1
Didn't play Termina
post tits you gay
meanwhile in moron SOULS
>tfw want to keep playing BS2
>keep getting worried I'll miss something making me want to not play it
How do I fix my tism anons?
play it 20 times over
Which is something you literally have to do anyway.
Is watching KKHTA necessary to understand Black Souls?
No but you should read Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass because both games assume you know the story of those books pretty well.
Yes
Might as well just be a VN. Nobody wants to play some stupid RPGmaker shit with combat that pretends to be deep but it's just turn based autism.
watching my friend play black souls 2.
once again im getting hit by 2nd hand suffering
>bs3 where everyone has their own mechs due to armored core 6 influence.
Mecha Helkaiser was predicted years ago.
the art style is filtering me hard
What maker is this made in?
Is it encrypted?
I kinda want to crack it open and look inside.
>threads on repeat mode
needs more black bar lore dumpings
but I already have Elona+?
also is the big number autism as good as in Fumika Fantasy?
Numbers get quite large
you can't get to billions, millions is the limit for dmg
Nowhere near the NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS you'd find in Fumika, they'd still wind up fairly high for normal RPGs, especially in BS2. The closest point of comparison I could actually make to Fumika is how you approach combat, both are heavily focused on blowing your load on the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible, though bosses in BS1/2 are generally nowhere near as wallish as they are in Fumika.
I randomly stumbled on the chests behind Fumika's house and got the best thing you could get from them on the first try during my first playthrough, so I didn't understand why the rest of the game was so easy
Great game, Fumika 2 when?
I prefer the first game
I know it's all royalty free but the encounter music in the first game and the title theme in the second go hard
Tell the dev to make an ending where I protect and take care of all the heroines and none get a sad outcome.
>God's Angels
>Hans' Machinegun
>Deep Sea Anchor
>Miranda's Axe
>Kishingatana
>Cannon
What broken weapon will you choose, moronman?
Hans > literally everything else
God's Angels is nice but generally unnecessary and the rampup time and lower cap doesn't do it any favors either.
DSK's a good weapon to just go around and beat shit with, but by DLC 3 you really should just be using it for the extra action.
>Miranda's Axe
lmao
lol
Even the Kishin isn't as broken as Hans is.
>moronman
For me it's Greatsword. DSA disables crits, Greatsword doesn't and still has +100% ATK. Miranda is nice but having Mow Down for easy AOE is nice and Hammer does the funny "skip phase 2 as soon as it starts" attack. Never looked at Hans but might start.
Isn't Cannon the only gun you can't do the watch trick with? Might wanna think about Shotgun instead
Why the thumbnail image?
People still don't know what master1200 is, judging by your filename.
It's sad innit
Full size pics are often too big to post and when they aren't I still prefer the image to not take up the whole screen when you open it.
cringe take
I was a Kishingatana enjoyer until DLC3 where it stopped being that great, then I used mainly God's Angels once I got it and the anchor for certain bosses.
kishingatana still up there as 2nd best tbh.
you can aoe kill GG in a single turn with 3 bonus actions
What about starter weapon?
Saw felt real nice to stack bleeds and poison
Knight King Sword has quite possibly the best buff throughout the game.
Saw is probably the best early game basically all of BS2 until DLC1 weapon and still the best AoE weapon afterwards.
saw is great imo. i got back into the game after not touching it for 2 years and started as hunter and things have been a breeze despite not really remembering the metas beyond gun clocking and stacking speed.
luv moonlight
'imple as
Never used the cannon, how is it better than a regular gun? Doesn't it cost a turn?
Anchor go clonk.
Brain am not understand have reached strength cap even without anchor equipped.
Clonk.
Why would you use the anchor if you already are at max strength, besides for getting the extra turn?
Just go swish with angel swords bro
You can stunlock a fuckload of things even on DLC3, bosses included.
C L O N K.
Verification not required.
God's Angels is overrated. Forces you to commit one action to standard attack.
Machinegun is good all the way until DLC3 and even then it's good single target. it deletes unicorn feminist.
Deep Sea Anchor is good, but critting will be more DPS for DLC3 unless you're fishing stuns, which is useless in DLC3 for the most part.
Mirandas Axe is mid
Kishingatana is objectively best final swap wep. combo it with heroic vorpal or other weps for max Damage per turn.
Cannon is a meme. The moment you get two-faced buckler you use that.
>Machinegun is good all the way until DLC3 and even then it's good single target.
Good is a fucking understatement, and almost every notable encounter in DLC 3 is a single enemy fight. Imagine bothering to fight mobs in DLC 3.
here's the flowchart
if the enemy has evasion or any sort, you're better off using heroic vorpal sword into final swap to kishingatana and Iai/Kazegachi
If the enemy has no evasion, and you have decent crit, HMG go brrr is more DPS. HMG is also excellent applying debuffs (Unis, etc).
>if the enemy has evasion or any sort, you're better off using heroic vorpal sword into final swap to kishingatana and Iai/Kazegachi
>evasion
The only fight that's really notable for evasion is Unis, and that's because you can't just lmao Absolute Precision it. I'm seriously struggling to think of notable fights where it's something you need to actually work around.
HMG has no cleave or AoE
GG is mostly group of mobs
I like HMG but I found weapon swapping and finishing with anchor, kishin or other shit more useful than unga bunga with machinegun, outside of Unis and maybe Mabel when soul farming.
>HMG has no cleave or AoE
Largely irrelevant for any real fight.
>GG is mostly group of mobs
you what moron
Phase 1 is single target
Phase 2 is effectively single target (center target is the only one actually needed)
Phase 3 is two people and it's not really a challenge to laser them down with Hans
Phase 4 is single target
Phase 5 is single target
Phase 6 is effectively single target (center target is the one actually needed, again)
Phase 7 is single target
Phase 8, and really only fucking Phase 8, is multi-target, and even then it's not hard to take down the individual chunks.
HMG is not the highest damage output per Turn unless you're a grind-autist that wasted 3 hours maxxing attack, thus the 11 turns of damage will be more DPS
but if you're just doing a 10k paramaters and not being an unga bunga 2 neuron retard, you have to weapon swap to maximize your DPS, what the game INTENDS you to do and it's own little meta, what makes the game unique as an RPG regarding gameplay.
>HMG is not the highest damage output per Turn unless you're a grind-autist that wasted 3 hours maxxing attack, thus the 11 turns of damage will be more DPS
This bro never fucking learned how to buffstack. Protip: multipliers are stupidly good.
at the end of the day it doesn't matter because you stack buffs and debuffs most enemies get 1 shot - 2 shot no matter which top tier wep you use, and you have like 4-5 turns end game.
>at the end of the day it doesn't matter
It matters for exactly what you're trying to say here though. You don't need to autismgrind in the Chaos Dungeon for hours to make Hans effective at all. 10k baseline is enough to keep yourself near or at the literal stat cap for Attack with proper buffing and gearing. The only fucking issue is the menu navigation if you don't want to burn actions, but that's a small price to pay.
sleep, buffs wear off
dispel, buffs wear off
you have to have bonus actions or HMG set up is not good, so it's only good end game basically.
meanwhile Kishin is available midgame and Stormy ruler early game and you can do supreme storm > kishin (should have 1 bonus action around mid game) and literally 1 shot everything until end game. by the time you have the bonus actions to HMG set up you basically don't need to rely on it because everything is a joke until DLC3.
I'd argue HMG is good end game and good in DLC3, but you get HMG so early game and it's useless without bonus actions so it's gonna sit and wait its time to shine until you have 2 black rabbits.(nobody uses kuti's covenant and you don't want to rely on mistery of the night).
So basically you won't see a reliable HMG until NG+ or after doing Chaos Dungeon and getting one there on end game of first cycle.
unga bunga anchor is more reliable given you don't have to rely on two black rabbits. just indignation and mash and make sure to get 20% more stun chance. that's it. low commitment.
The true comp. advantage of HMG is not damage with stars aligned at end game. it's applying debuffs with 11 attacks.the problem is you can't swap rings mid fight, so it's specific for certain fights where the debuff is the counter.
HMG is the best weapon in the game for Single target, but only if you have the bonus actions to make it work.
>HMG set up is not good, so it's only good end game basically.
You need to take a much closer look at what you fight prior to DLC 3, because Hans STILL chews through practically everything you can fight like it's nothing.
the HMG unload has a lot of build up. you need Absolute Precision and Take aim to maximize. you don't need to do with heroic vorpal > kishin
If the enemy dispels the set up can be annoying with HMG.
At the end of the day it depends how many bonus actions you have, context (how many enemies, if they dispel, if they dodge) and how fat your attack parameter is where you don't need crit as crutch anymore.
I wouldn't use HMG until I have at least 1 black rabbit or 2 bonus actions to help me set it up.
if the enemy sleeps HMG set up is also annoying
DLC3 has many enemies with Sleep and ailments in their toolkit, including the final boss
but again it doesn't matter if you have like 3 black rabbits + twofaced buckler if you get 1 turn without dispel or CC you're set to spam the next one
>the HMG unload has a lot of build up
Build up? You must mean menu navigation, which is a fair argument to make against it, but it doesn't actually need to build up (like say, God's Angels) at all. You're at 100% effectiveness from the moment you hit Attack with it.
>you need Absolute Precision and Take aim to maximize.
I think you are grossly overestimating how many enemies (let alone notable fights) have actual Eva stats. Like sure, some mobs like to evade a lot, but they're not even remotely close to being common occurrences in BS2 and you'll know when you start the fight when to pop Absolute Precision.
>If the enemy dispels the set up can be annoying with HMG.
Thankfully, the vast majority of enemies don't dispel and can be killed before they dispel. Seriously, most enemies are tissue paper in BS1 and BS2, and the only time I remember losing buffs I had on is in a phase transition for GG.
>At the end of the day it depends how many bonus actions you have, context (how many enemies, if they dispel, if they dodge) and how fat your attack parameter is where you don't need crit as crutch anymore.
Crit obviously helps, but it shouldn't single-handedly make the difference between success and failure. You don't need to luckshit Royal Tea to have decent crit from buffs or the like.
>I wouldn't use HMG until I have at least 1 black rabbit or 2 bonus actions to help me set it up.
You can get that set up pretty early on in the game, and it only gets easier as you progress through the game. BRRs are pretty easy to farm in general either by cycling or by the Chaos Dungeon. The only time you'll be short on bonus actions is at the start of the game, and there's really nothing you'll fight there that requires you to stack bonus actions either.
>He didn't enjoy the perma stun/instant death/damage reflect/infinite heals/immortality/max health damage kino
Weak
I did fight them. Fighting them is objectively a waste of fucking time though.
what's so good about the cannon? marginally more attack for less speed doesn't seem worth it
It's not that good, unless I'm somehow missing a broken as fuck strategy with it for years now.
if you didn't have the Internet to look everything up would you actually be able to get all endings?
Yes. I did already. Figuring out what you need for F/G isn't as bad as people think it is.
I think yes. 1 is really easy and i only had to ask help to find the Iron Hans' fairy tale.
Bs2 i think maybe. I knew where to find red due the download coming with a map sketch that shows where to find her. But if i did not had it i think i would eventually find all her encounters and memories by just randomly exploring with 0 sen but i am not sure if i would have figured it out to press ESC when choosing an Alice, the only hint i know is the snow man telling you to not make a choice but that is way too vague to me catch on. After that everything including the DLCs are pretty straight foward where i did all without help
Literally the only reason I didn't get the true ending in BS2 blind is because I missed a hidden door with a memory in it because of my colorblindness I was mad
I even tried to select nothing on my own
There is the hints file in the game folder, but without that, yeah no way I'd find BS2's G and I probably wouldn't have tracked the bird either.
almost impossible not to get all endings in bs1
bs2 is cryptic but certainly doable. Normal/high sen run first playthrough, 0/low sen run second, mixed run and try to put everything together on the third.
If I did it would be purely accidentally on a 0 SEN run. There are no indications to what the triggers are.
>There are no indications to what the triggers are.
Look and listen harder, anon.
The esc thing is spoonfed to you by one of the snowmen, but what about the Red/memory flame requirements? Are they actually stated in-game?
They aren't.
Memory flames being important should be fairly obvious, it's knowing that you have them all that's really the issue. They were also a requirement for progressing in RHW, for reference. Red marks you once you meet her 10 times, though it's fairly easy to ignore her saying that.
my favorite black souls girls are the evil women who become possessive and leg lock you
so the queen and I think Rapunzel
Here is a picture of my wife. A dragon is also there.
kek
Poor, uh... whatshisname.
Chaplain Ezwald.
>only thing you find from him is his robe from the Chaos Dungeon
rip
>Nightmares
DONT LUMP HER WITH THOSE DIRTY moronMEN *THINGS*
Leaf love!
while I have you autists here, what was with the lone mirror in snow white's garden in BS1. was it tied to some event I never triggered or was it just there for some obscure reference to red riding woods
Santa comes out, somehow.
Could be a reference to the mirror in the story.
>some obscure reference to red riding woods
It is one. Specifically how the snow level and boss of the snow level ends in RRW.
alright thanks I figured, I just wasn't sure since there were zero event triggers even with red in my party
>Played black soul 1 and 2
>Have no idea where to go and what the fuck going on
>Beat bullshit boss with my own bullshit
I have zero idea what the story all about but I do enjoy the boss fight and royalty free bgm.
i like alice souls, but i really think you're blowing its load too hard
just started BS2, give me a qrd on the covenant system, should i join the serpent?
just dew it™
you can and should join any and every covenant you come across as there's no downsides and they act more like equipable buffs
You should join as many covenants as possible, also change them a lot and experiment with builds.
I suggest you don't go to the chaos dungeon until finishing ending G and exploring the deep sea, it breaks progression because it makes you OP as fuck.
I liked Lindamea's new song.
>love prickett
>she's stuck inside the TCO forever with no hopes of saving her
Don't worry anon, she's probably just dead
All three Liddell sisters, on the other hand, really are stuck inside TCO forever
ending H really makes me doubt that she's dead, at best she'll stop being sentient but still be there. i don't know what is it about her but i feel actual sadness thinking her ending, she's such a tragic character
>All three Liddell sisters, on the other hand, really are stuck inside TCO forever
???
If you mean Mother, Daughter, and Younger Sister, they're not part of TCO at all. If you actually mean Lorina, Alice, and Edith, then that doesn't make any sense either. Edith's already implied to be dead by her boss fight dialogue, which should only leave her soul left, and given her presence alongside Leopold's in the Chaos Dungeon (a place where past and future are said to mix), they're probably not stuck in TCO in any way at all. Alice's soul was in the white prison in G, and should still be freed with the destruction of GG in H regardless. Lorina's the only one with any possible claim of being stuck in the dream, but with the destruction of the garden I don't see any real reason why she would remain stuck there at all either.
Edith is in Shatranj, and it's implied to have been BS1 Catherine.
I had a schizo theory that DRH's Charlotte could be related to Lorina since that's her middle name, but the latest update showed her being far too gay for that.
well, if ending H is the cannon one, TCO is not dead, so Prickett is alive. if ending G is cannon, then she's dead and the three sister souls are released.
Knight Sword is good. Knight's Price is an excellent buff.
Spear's counter 100% of the time is useful vs some scenarios. specifically Prince of hell
club is shit
beastsaw is only ok early game. then it's outclassed.
All endings are canon, retardbro, the main difference is what's a cyclebreaker and what's not. Also, use your spoiler tags.
both G and H break the cycles.
you're gonna have to wait for Toro to confirm which one is the one he's going for for BS3, probably H.
>both G and H break the cycles
G explicitly doesn't break the cycle. We are drawn back into the garden due to our bond with GG, which is the root cause of the cycles in the first place as well. H is the only cyclebreaker in BS2, and that's because GG's out of the picture by the end of it.
Only H does because it actually brings you to the title screen
the real little sisters never entered or have anything to do with TCO's wonderland.
jubjub, bander and zombie bitch are LARPing as the three Alice's respectively, with whoever you choose as the alice who helps you at the end.
Pricket is an outer god, she's just visitting TCO's garden, same as Node they were accomplices of Alice's semen harvest factory but they regret it after realizing how horrible it is
You misunderstand, Prickett is an outer god, yes. But she's a specific one, Prickett is TCO.
Pricket is a part of TCO. She came earlier than the rest of it, and saved Grimm from Mary Sue, bringing him in the endless tea party, larping as Alice n.1. But then the Black Rabbit was jealous, and prayed Mary Sue to separate them, allowing Mary Sue to kill Pricket/Alice n.1 and starting the events of Black Souls 1
the three sisters never visited wonderland
Incorrect, they were all swallowed by it due to Lorina and Liddell's wish. Edith refused to play her assigned role and was thrown in the mental ward, Lorina sold her soul and became the queen of heart, Alice's soul was imprisoned and used as a blueprint for the Alices.
so when the Garden of TCO is destroyed, does that mean that their souls are released free? (ending H)
I know in ending G wee see Alice being freed? what happens to all the captured souls inside the garden?
prickett is another part of Nyarlathotep that split, anon. she's the alice you see during the tea party cutscene and the same alice that shows you out of the TCO during ending H, that's why she slithers out of the masses of alice, no other outer god is insane enough to hang out with the TCO anymore
most of the gods have left the party, but the three nightmares, hidden princess and cheeky oyster are legitimate visitors still, separate into naive and crazy where appropriate. And Sho, but she's a bit too dense
>the real little sisters never entered or have anything to do with TCO's wonderland.
Bro, you seriously need to go back and replay BS2 because literally every fucking thing you said in this post is wrong. All three of them are present in Wonderland. The real Alice is in the white prison in G, Lorina's present as the Queen of the Heart in the base game, and Edith's demonbeast form is in the Mental Ward. All three of them are the legit Liddells.
>jubjub, bander and zombie bitch are LARPing as the three Alice's respectively, with whoever you choose as the alice who helps you at the end.
They're not LARPing as Lorina, Alice, and Edith. They're LARPing as three entirely different versions of Alice. Whoever you choose as you Alice is NOT who helps you at the end, the only one that helps you at the end is Jubjub AKA Younger Sister Alice.
>Pricket is an outer god, she's just visitting TCO's garden, same as Node they were accomplices of Alice's semen harvest factory but they regret it after realizing how horrible it is
Prickett is LITERALLY TCO and she's not exactly subtle about this point either. She's not some random fuck just visiting it, she's literally a central part of the moronman itself.
So what's the story of Lorde and the Doll? Those two character amongst the few that I still don't know anything about. I know it's a meme that Grimm cucks Lorde, but I have no idea how or why
lorde (André de Lorde irl) was the most famous playwright of the Grand Guignol, which was an actual theatre in 20th century france. in BS2 lorde created the grand guignol which then node took and created by using leafs powers, resulting in a second incarnation of the GG. lorde then ends up in winterbell looking for the GG which doesn't care about him and wants to merge with Grimm, and you just beat up lorde. that's about it
And the doll?
She's basically Grand Guignol.
Talk to her in oxford after entering winterbell proper for some more lore.
>They changed Mabel's theme
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEEEE
blame music garden gnomes
>Old theme was cool.
>New theme is silly.
>Both fit her perfectly.
Hey.
Bye
>knight sword
>club
>spear
>beastsaw
which one should i upgrade? my damage looks shit, i regret playing as a knight
Saw for now, but fully max the knight sword as soon as you can
The only limitation for upgrading is ore slabs, and those can be gotten by cycling or spending a fuckton of souls. Knight Sword's one of the better weapons in the game defensively speaking. Club's kinda shit. Spear's really shit. Beastsaw's decentish early on. Assuming you're playing BS2, you can find the best offensive weapon in the opening areas of the game, but BS2's easy enough that you really don't need to minmax this early on in the game.
>Edith is in Shatranj, and it's implied to have been BS1 Catherine.
????
BS1 Catherine's the fucking summon in Oxward. She is in no way taking the role of Edith in BS2.
Knight sword has an extremely good buff that'll help you out
Club is complete dogshit
Gugnir has an extremely good damage skill, and with 100% counter you can try to turtle up the fights you can't deal with
Sawblade is the one with most damage of the options you listed
However, by this point of the game you should have found some better stuff, iirc the axe is in rabbit hole (must defeat a dark spirit for it) and great sword is a drop from a early game boss, explore more
A cute.
How long are the games? Been thinking of playing them but I cant be assed if its too long
BS1's ~10+, probably upwards of 20 depending on how hard you want to look for shit.
BS2's ~30-40, much, much more if you want to look for shit.
Holy fuck nevermind then
First one's like 10 hours to do everything
Second one's like 30-50
just play BS1
if you liked it you can play BS2
>Edith was going to be a covenant until EMMM decided that would make too many bird girls
Truly the most tragic heroine.
Is BS only popular in Ganker?
Yeah its just a v circle jerk thi-
Oh no
russians can't be as bad as twittertrannies right?
Right?
>russians can't be as bad as twittertrannies right?
>Right?
russians love it
chinks love it
it's popular on 2chan too
it's good that it's not
would you want those gay reactionary streamers to grab this game like they did with Fear and hunger and attract all the normalfags?
In fact, this game keeps normalfags away, with the eroge acting as a nice protection from casual masses. keeps them away.
what exactly is Grimm?
a literal corpse?
A ghoul in heat. Stuffed with souls.
Replay the hotel scene in BS2
Mary Sue's magnum opus
she made a creation based on a creator. it's immortal yet based on a human. can grow + immortal + has powers to create, albeit right now limited. prob in BS3 he'll power up on creation powers. he did the snowmen in all his loops and he left them as notes
>he did the snowmen in all his loops and he left them as notes
What the fuck is up with posts like these? Did someone just read the cliffnotes of BS2 and not actually play the game? Jabber's the one making the snowmen in the base game, and the game's very clear about this point too. You literally stop off at her personal fucking snowman making hideout just before entering DLC 3.
An amalgamation of souls of fairy tale writers Mary forgot to put limiters on
It looks depressing.
It is.
Yes, that is the intended effect.
>JRPG
I think Black Souls is what media in general would be if fiction wasnt held back by our society moral standards.
Grimm being a complete degenerate and the player being given the chance to indulge on the vile actions as him make the already well written story so much better.
But then again, I truly believe EMMM is a genius writer, so its safe to say not many writers are capable of writing a story like Black Souls.
Maybe by video game standards, but I can name plenty of literature that's better-written.
there's something I don't understand
people say the [spoiler sisters got trapped in wonderland but in the memory of Caroll alice is already an old lady [/spoiler]
it's conflicting with your theory. to me it sounds like Caroll is the one that made the evil wish, not the sisters.
Dodo
oops fucked up spoiler.
I thought the same.
I didn't go full lore autism on the game when I played it, but I remember the memory stating that Caroll was cursing his life because his little e-boi grew up while he was being a neet autist and before he knew it he was old and so was she.
I know Mary Sue is the one that made a creation based on him, but I don't understand if she stole his soul or just made a copy of him and created her own version of him, Grimm.
is the Old King Baphomet from BS1 ?
how the fuck did TCO steal Grimm from when Grimm destroyed Mary Sue's garden?
it's been a while since I played but I'd appreciate clarity on this
>is the Old King Baphomet from BS1 ?
No. That character is deeper down the CD. Old King is King Arthur
>when Grimm destroyed Mary Sue's garden?
That never happened
Baphomet dying lead TCO to the garden
Woops forgot to spoiler tag
You should really replay BS1 C and D.
Grimm is a composite creation, made with the souls of multiple authors all shoved into a single immortal vessel.
>is the Old King Baphomet from BS1 ?
It is neither Baphomet (Nameless Demon (true Baphomet)) or "Baphomet" (Shub-Niggurath). The Old King is strongly implied to be from the original tea party.
>how the fuck did TCO steal Grimm from when Grimm destroyed Mary Sue's garden?
Literally BS1 D. I don't know how else to say that, but BS1 D gives TCO that opportunity to crash Mary's party.
TCO saved him from Mary but Mary stole him from the tea party later and added his soul to Grimm
And Grimm is a chad knight despite being a bunch of old men. What you see in the game are vessels for their souls not their old bodies. And all of them made their wishes separately
Grimm is not many people but rather a creation based on many writers, Caroll included.
it would've been nicer that the 6 memories would be of 6 different people, but it's all just Caroll, who is probably the main part of Grimm.
Grimm is immortal + based on humans so he has all the components to be an Outer God or better because he can grow and learn while Outer Gods have their strength capped and cannot go beyond their current power level.
Black Souls 3 will probably have more than one Garden, more party members, amassing an army to fight a war against the outer gods respectively and I wouldn't be surprised is Node, Mabel, etc come back and side under Grimm's banner. Mabel even throws the 4 elemental outer gods as future enemies.
probably gonna expand on Grimm's creation powers to make the BS1 cast return as party members
I wonder what role will Mary sue play seeing her creation become a threat to the other Gods. Prob gonna be your party member and use you to kill the competition
>Grimm is not many people
Your fucking Hotel scene, anon? The numerous shown instances of the souls fighting for control over the vessel?
hotel poseidon scene? that's just PTSD putting bitches back into their books
but now that you mention it, i see.
would explain the schizo narrations in the eroge scenes too.
>that's just PTSD putting bitches back into their books
Half correct. The hotel flashback is exactly that, but the scene with you surrounded by the other BLACKSOULS™ right after you're done PTSDing over BS1 C takes place in the current time, with the other souls that compose what we know as Grimm.
See the above and pic related.
At your point in time probably not, you're likely still better off doing basic levels. Eventually though they'll be the bulk of your overall stats.
so Grimm is made up by 8 souls, 9 including him?
damn this is some naruto level of junchuuriki shit
this game was too depressing. gonna play patapon or kirby jesus
If we take what we see there at face value, yes. There's three central souls that we know of currently though, Lewis, Andersen, and Grimm. This is based off what we hear from Mary in BS1 C, and all three pop up throughout both games. You can blame most of the dickylust on Lewis, most of the gayry on Andersen, and Grimm for the saviorfag shit.
>the MC of this game is a pedophile, a homosexual and a broken man sharing a body
Quite hilarious when you think about it, isn't it? And there's still likely other souls that haven't really shown their own mental malfunctions yet.
You can see Andersen clearly taking over in big parts of DLC 3 content.
For Gerda:
Whenever shes talking about her supposed "father" the game tricks you into thinking shes talking about her "dad" but if you rape and kill her the game pretty much shoves it in your face that she was talking about (You) (Andersen) all along.
For Lingeriena:
Andersen pretty much forces your hand in trying to kill her, you just get to "choose" whether to have sex with her before that.
I would go as far as to say that whenever you choose to kill someone, its Andersens psychotic murderhobo tendencies taking over.
You also have several instances of his murderous impulses trying to take control even in normal speech, and also the end of Gerda's questline is especially notable for the options presented to you.
I thought it was just Grimm feeling guilt about killing all those bitches and the black souls surrounding him where the girls from BS1, not the souls inside of him.
>Be Edith Liddel
>Die at like 20
>Get pulled back by alien degenerates as a goof, now 8 years old again
>Have no idea what's going on
>Get shoved into a padded room
>Have exactly one friend that leaves forever
>Get pumped full of anti-lithium and old god goop
>Die again
>Have like three lines of dialogue total
Bitch had it rough
how the fuck am i supposed to survive the butler's 5th phase
I just ran past him the first time around.
Kill it before it kills you is unironically the best way to survive shit in BS2.
i'm playing as a lvl32 knight, buff the shit out of my speed with consumable, but the moron still outspeeds me
There's some speed rings scattered around the early game areas, Speed's the most important stat to get up until you hit 1000 so if you have some of those try putting them on. Defending is a 1.5x Speed multiplier from what I remember, but you'll want to abuse it with either knives, something like the Guardian Bunker, or bonus actions which I doubt you have considering where you're currently stuck. When in doubt, you can always just buy some Yellow Souls from the Library Dream too.
is buying color souls worth it?
yes but only after you're like level 350 or so otherwise a level up is more parameters in value.
just use item buffs
redpill me about the black trial
i thought they were just baphomet's bitches?
dunno anything about that but the baphomet scene was hot af
correct me if I'm wrong
all the npcs in Ending G that you kill in the first room's of the nightmare are Grimm's children right?
are bander, jubjub, and jabberwock lesser eldritch gods/demons or are they part of TCO?
>all the npcs in Ending G that you kill in the first room's of the nightmare are Grimm's children right?
Almost all. Lorina's not your child. B shows who most of your children are, and [spoiler]DLC 3 shows them all.[/spoiler]
Bander, Jubjub, and Jabber are in no way part of TCO. They are other moronmen though.
Nyarlathotep. Goes by several monikers in BS2, TCO is one of them which means The Crawling Ones.
I genuinely don't know what TCO is in reference to
The Crawling One aka The Crawling Chaos aka Nyarlathotep.
Alice? All me.
>Grimm proceeds to rape Nyarly during the next Ko/v/
While prickett watches
RABBIT WHORES
RABBIT WHORES STRONG
BUNNY>EVERYONE ELSE
HOMOFAGS NEED NOT APPLY
Now, while she's a fucking whore from start to finish, I have to admit something. She has killer design sense for gardens.
for me it's the rabbit prostitute and the march hare
Oyakodon with them and Node will have to wait for BS3, unfortunately.
so uh... why is there a food heaven under the mansion?
Blame the Duchess for being a fatass.
>Animalfuckers
>Animalfuckerfuckers
the duchess looks hot, can i romance her?
beware
played black souls 1 a while ago, put off black souls 2 since it was still seemingly incomplete. Version 1.13 is good to go now?
game is finished.
Assuming that's the latest version on DLSite, it's probably the one with the DMCA takedown which forced a lot of music changes in the game.
When's Red's Game COMING?
"Eventually"
FUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>300 base CGs already finished, not counting variants
>70 H CGs, potentially still more
>expects to draw another 150 fucking CGs
He's really working on his art, at least.
i think he needs to sit down an learn the human anatomy, because there's instances where his proportions are all over the place. his personal style and colors are all great but seing some squiggly lines for hands is bothering me
>squiggly lines for hands
S O U L
we have to be harsher on him if we want the games to be even better anon
The art is never going to be good. I'd rather he doesn't take 10 years before I can see the end to this fucking story
>The art is never going to be good.
Sistine Chapel material, probably not, but even comparing his art from RHW to BS1, or BS1 to BS2 shows that he's definitely improving.
half of the reason he's making 2 spinoff games is to improve his art, anon
A perfect JRPG would have let me choose Lorina instead as my Alice
I thought about making an rpg with a cast of literally insane women a few years back but figured it was just way too niche. This thread is giving me hope, gonna do some research on the games now thanks
Leaf my beloved is going to get back to the top soon
I'm going to ryona the shit out of your beloved!
Red lost and died.
She's the main girl while Leaf has to cope and seethe about nothing going her way despite being Mary Sue.
Bro you dropped your spoilers
I don't get it.
When Aza-chan wakes up, even the Great Ones will be fucked
Btw, who the fuck is the one supposed to be next to Rif and Jobber?
kuti
Oh shit nvm youre right. I forgot her normal form look looks nothing like her.
I actually thought it has to be Cthulu-chan or something, close enough lmao
yeah her sprite model doesn't match the way EMMM drew her
>I actually thought it has to be Cthulu-chan or something, close enough lmao
Well, Kuti is big C's daughter.
piece of shit RPGMaker game for pedophiles
I'm a hagfag though.
BASED
Absolutely disgusting
Sheesh anon, give the old lady a break...
She's not that old
Binah lost.
is it as bad as black souls 1?
uh... i may have fucked up the chicken questline, i probably forgot to talk to him and now that i'm finished with the duchess, he stays outside the mansion, what do i do?
You should be okay. His next stop should be the Slaughterhouse.
Does the Iron Maiden boss have some requirement or smth? My damage output can't keep up with her drain
Yes just hit harder
It's a DPS race, if you can't beat her now return with more unga bunga.
also, what the deal with the caterpillar? Match? and what's with the Mushroom Village?
Mushroom Village is a reference to EMMM's first game about Red