Fuck off moron, the dub was great, unironically the best kids show dub ever made because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it and did their best to keep as much mature shit in the show as possible. They even got away with them talking about terrorist bombings. The only thing that suffered was the soundtrack. Tired of you gays probably turd worlders that shit on the dub.
>because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it and did their best to keep as much mature shit in the show as possible
WHY DO ALL OF YOU GET THE PIZZA, WHILE I GET THE CRUST! And hot and cold running water
I watched the episode in your pic in English and German and the German dub was superior. I don't speak German and I don't like the language but it really was better. They cut the scenes in a different and much better way, I could not believe it. Even the music and sound effects are different and the meaning and tone of the scenes is completely changed. It's like US had to infantilize and water down a show for kids for some reason. Even the way he appears is rushed and "bombastic" instead of slow, methodical and menacing.
>the dub was great, unironically the best kids show dub ever made because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it and did their best to keep as much mature shit in the show
Holy fuck, how can dubfags be THIS delusional?
I think it was ten minutes of the first movie, twenty minutes of the second movie, and thirty minutes of the third movie. And the remaining pieces were then violently Hulk-smashed together into the tangled insane mess that was The Movie. The funny thing is the producer didn't want to do that at all, he wanted to just dub and release each film, but FOX was all "Fuck you, bro!".
>The only thing that suffered was the soundtrack
I still maintain that a lot of the instrumental pieces of the dub should be adopted by the franchise proper. I will happily abandon the lyrical pieces (though I do like Strange), but the instrumental stuff was very atmospheric, tasteful, and appropriate.
>Only acknowledging the Agapio meme that didn't last for one full season
I counter by attesting the Werne dub's opening songs for Adventure and 02 were better than the Japan originals
also don't forget that littleo/pyroar have no middle stage
Littlleo is also a lion.
https://i.imgur.com/00Atkqq.jpg
The problem with digimon is the lack of realism.
On this, care to explain suicune and Raikou actually turning into dinosaurs and giving me an example of a cat turning into one in Digimon? Because if we have to be this literal....
That's right. It's worse. It's turning a mammal into a reptile.
They're PARADOX Pokemon, you thundering caterpillar fucker. They're not even meant to exist, nothing about them makes sense. They were created by an eldritch force in Area Zero taking a guy's fever dreams and messing with his time machine.
How fragile and weak are you people that something like this sends you into insane depression? Were you also mentally-damaged by the whole "the Pokemon who made earth and sea hate each other and their big brother in the sky has to keep them at peace" thing in Gen 3, or the fact you could catch a manifestation of God himself in Gen 4?
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Strawman
2 weeks ago
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Pardon, I find it difficult to believe that grown men act this way over children's toys.
>care to explain suicune and Raikou actually turning into dinosaurs
Other way around and it's real world evolution so that's what they looked like millions of years ago.
As for this >and giving me an example of a cat turning into one in Digimon?
Nyaromon can evolve into Agumon in one of the pendulum pets but we need the opposite like Agumon to Greymon to Divermon to Saber Leomon.
So you can go from a Cat to Dino to fish back to cat
I remember having a VHS of one of the Digi movies and this fucking shit was plastered at the very beginning. I am pretty sure this short was the first time my soft, malleable child skull ever felt the increased blood pressure that comes with seething hatred for something.
I always had the biggest crush on Kari as a kid because 02. Had lots of erotic dreams about her. Even to this day, I still think she's cute. I don't even know what it is.
You're genuinely retarded anon... Me and every boy I knew growing up had crushes on girls for as long as I can remember. I had my first kiss when I was 7 with a childhood friend who was 1 year older than me. I remember tell mine and her parents that we'd get married when we were older cause that's what she wanted. I musta been like 6 at the time.
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What is this? Anime? Fuck off pedo. Die
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No anon, it's real life. You have a very twisted view on the world.
2 weeks ago
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Yeah yeah everyone believes you. Kys
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't care if you believe me or not. Doesn't change the fact that it's perfectly normal for young boys to like girls you idiot.
2 weeks ago
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Nah youre just a pedo hiding behind the term 'e-boicon'
2 weeks ago
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Young boys should only want to fuck older women, specially their own moms
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bro he's acting retarded on purpose, just ignore him.
Every single Pokémon game, yes, including THAT one, shits all over every Digimon game hands down without fail. Which is an utter shame because I genuinely believe that Digimon has the ability to beat Pokémon, but it just cannot do it.
You are taking this example too literally. Obviously the 3 stage example is more of a nod to starter pokemon mechanics, the first thing a normalfag's mind goes to.
The evolutions are cool, it's just that there are too many of them. A lot of digimon have ridiculous long lines and it makes the player stressed and worried which path to take. Pokemon feels like you can grow attachment to them. Digimon feels like a soulless gacha and every evolution is a new roll, especially when they hardly resemble the previous mon.
>Digimon feels like a soulless gacha and every evolution is a new roll
But anon, the vast majority of the time that evolution is result of how you raised it.
If you get a numemon, its not because you were unlucky, its because were a shit tamer and made many mistakes. On the other hand, getting the mon that continues the themiing and design is your reward for being good at it.
Not really. If anything it's even easier to get attached to Digimon because their evolutions are directly attached to the way you treat and raise them. There's whole biographies that state 'a good heart will turn your digimon into X whereas a heart of mailce will do Y.'
If your mon ends up completely different from its previous form then you fucked up somehow.
I dislike the aspect of compulsively evolving and devolving your digimon to try to maximize their stats. Pokemon has breeding autism and shines that are also equally unfun but they don't really interrupt the flow of gameplay like minmaxing does if you play cyberslueth on hard mode (big mistake).
Branching evolution is fun and the final stages should look godly or like a Final Fantasy boss if they're hard to get. You just don't like the look and want to call it bad to validate yourself.
Same
I like this line for him personally: >Gotsumon >Golemon >Pumpkinmon >Puppetmon
Has an interesting progression while staying in theme of animated objects.
I don't like Digimon because there's way too many branching evolutions, which means there's a lot of designs I like but aren't the "final step", so I can't get attached to it.
For example I love Gengar's design, it's the best for me, I like that the design it has is the final step because it means I can work with it as it is and don't need to replace the design.
With Digimon though it often is the case that early designs are super fucking cool but the more it evolves and becomes humanoid, the more chances it has to become a generic anime girl/dude cosplaying.
I mean look at this shit.
You have a fucking kiwi, a penguin with a bush... and then a generic human wearing a sort of bird costume.
Or on the left, cool spiky seed, then pikmin look alike then huge bear stance flower dude... and then woman with flower costume.
It's digiMON, MON for MONSTER: cosplaying humans aren't monsters.
It's as if my beloved Gengar turned into pic related, I wouldn't like it anymore.
This. They need a ball that shoot laser that shrinks the monster to put them into a ball. I'm still impressed that Bill Gates invented this technology in real world, and Pokemon used it as inspiration to make their universe more realistic and believable.
the laser is non-canon, it's the pokemon themselves that have the ability to shrink
>Its unrealistic.
Because Pokemon totally makes a lot of sense. See
>lack of realism.
But Pokemon is far more nonsensical and unrealistic >literal cockfighting until one of the creatures faints.
"lol it's ok because we can get them patched up at the pokemon center" >te- I mean 14-year-olds roaming the land unsupervised despite the clear danger posed by supernatural creatures that can melt mountains, flood villages, etc. >kids capturing said supernatural flora and fauna and wantonly, breeding them, and releasing them into the wild whenever >kids going after criminal gangs (that the police can't bust but kids apparently can) >said criminal gangs participating in cockfights instead of just shooting/gassing people or sicing their pokemon on humans
Pokemon's setting is too retarded and doesn't make sense. btw PMD was great until Sky.
The digivolutions branching like they do is fine. One of the big reasons Pokemon took off though is the fact you could take it anywhere to either trade or battle with other kids on the school bus or train. Digimon didn't have that outside those G1 and G2 low budget digivices. Some of their earliest games were on Playstation which admittedly I know nothing about due to never owning that system back then. Were you allowed to take your memory card over to your friend's place and battle their Digimon? If not that's unfortunate since Pokemon allowed you to interact with others there and now because it was always in your pocket.
Digimon always seemed to treat itself as a solitary experience. Even Medabots games encouraged interacting with other people and actively trading parts with each other via link cables. Shit I'm pretty certain even the first Beyblade games on GameBoy Color let you do that.
No, that's the problem with pokemon.
Digimon has always been a 7~8/10 franchies.
Modern pokemon is a 3/10 at best but gets a free pass because muh POKEMON nostalgia
>Digimon has always been a 7~8/10 franchies
Eh, where the games are concerned? Not really.
It's a meh tier monster tamer at best and I wish it were as good as pokemon.
I dunno, outside unfinished messes like survive, digimon doesn't really have genuinely BAD games, just really, really mediocre as the average. Digimon's best games are both highly kino but with huge flaws that drag them down.
Older pokemon was good sure, but since it went 3D it's been on a steady downhill. Honestly the only digimon game I could argue that even comes as close to as bad as Sw/Sh or Sc/Vi are the mobile gacha shit like links.
>Older pokemon was good sure, but since it went 3D it's been on a steady downhill.
Thing is, pokemon only looks bad compared to itself. If you compare it to non pokemon games then it just comes out on top minus the graphical glitches
I mean, compare SS to Hacker's Memory and pokemon wins in the most important areas >larger roster >no exact recolors >reasons to catch multiple (shinies, titles etc) >evolution methods aren't tedious >obtaining new moves is quick and easy through tms/tutors rather than evolving up and down different lines >more reasons to replay content (rare items, TMS etc in raids and whatever there is for BP in the tower) >active online
Granted that's more due to popularity but still.
Anyway you get the picture, even in it's dire state pokemon is still a bit more fleshed out compared to digimon.
Which makes me sad to be honest because Digimon has this exact same potential.
Temtem actually compares favorably to Pokemon in gameplay but the designs make it a hard sell and the devs have given up
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>Temtem actually compares favorably to Pokemon in gameplay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It has all the same shit except there’s no getting randomly dicked over by RNG bullshit
But it’s worth tolerating Pokémon’s BS for the larger roster and activity
pokemon managed to carve out a giant niche doing shit that other jrpgs couldn't be bothered with so it's hard to compare even if I'd agree that pokemon generally lags behind in many areas
>doing shit that other jrpgs couldn't be bothered with
What would that be? The computer and the player are under the same rules? PVP? Because DQIV and SMT beat them to the punch on monster recruitment.
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>Because DQIV and SMT beat them to the punch on monster recruitment.
You don't really play jrpgs for the gameplay do you
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I do
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pokemon managed to carve out a giant niche doing shit that other jrpgs couldn't be bothered with so it's hard to compare even if I'd agree that pokemon generally lags behind in many areas
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Oh noes incels and betas are playing pvp. That means its better
2 weeks ago
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THANK YOU GENIES
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THANK YOU GENIES
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THANK YOU GENIES
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Pokemon is strong at what it wants to be strong at. People who complain about Pokemon are generally people with an emotional attachment to the creatures upset that it’s not focused on being a tightly balanced single player experience
2 weeks ago
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The thing is Pokemon is a JRPG that's also trying to balance being a competitive game, so it kind of fucks the main story, so anyone can play it, and leave the real depth for battling other players
Back when the Battle Frontier was around, it pretty much required you to know Pokemon on a competitive level to be able to complete them
But we have real life tournaments backed by The Pokemon Company as well, just to hammer this in more
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Talking about other monster tamers here buddy
Dragon Quest Monsters is a great one. You don't know how much Pokémon socks until you play one.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Eh, I like DQM but I'd still pick pokemon.
I hope the new game does better.
This is the sad truth
If you are a monster game fan you dont have many options and pokemon still has a lot of stuff in it even if the campaigns are fucking boring now
>digimon doesn't really have genuinely BAD games
Have you played >Digimon World 4 (Digimon if it Diablo. Decent concept, horrible execution) >Digmon Rumble Arena 2 (a Brawl clone with inconsistent recovery, FALL DAMAGE, and instant death hazards. wtf.) >Digimon World 2 (slow as a snail. a full turn takes ~80 seconds, lots of loading screens, grindy, level cap forces you to capture, train, and fuse new mons)
>digimon world 4
its not a diablo clone retard, it plays way closer stuff like gauntlet, dark alliance, champions of norrath, etc and the diablo comparison is minimal, but I guess you don't actually know what those games are and only know diablo
its a pretty bad game, but at least make the comparison right
>rumble arena 2
rumble arena 1 was definitely heavily inspired by smash and is basically somewhere between smash and more traditional fighting games
rumble arena 2 just expands on it, its straight up just an upgrade to it, its no where near a "bad" game even if I don't like it.
and how could it be a brawl clone when its older than brawl?
>digimon world 2
is certified kino and you are a fucking retard
sorry you get filtered by dungeon crawlers or roguelikes mechanics, you just suck shit.
yes, its incredibly slow, biggest fault and a huge issue, but everything is fucking excellent.
take your fucking (you), I can't believe I took this retarded bait
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>digimon world 2
I would kill for an HD remake of this with a bunch more Digimon, a better DNA Digivolving system, more mechanics, and more interesting dungeons.
2 weeks ago
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you made imagine it and now I feel bad that it will never happen
Digimon is just following the Hindu understanding of evolution (which Darwinian evolution is based on anyways).
This is why technology and the singularity is the next step in human evolution even though it has nothing to do with natural selection itself.
We have a spiritual cycle where we transition not just from animal to animal but also from flesh to rock. (it's like reincarnation but for humanity as a whole)
The snake devours its own tail
In death we are reborn >inb4 meds
Typical Pokémon child with their baby brain. Getting upset and pointing “B-BUT OTHER THING! OTHER THING!” POKEMON GOOD! OTHER THING BAD!”
Goo goo ga ga. Go to bed, bitch.
I find that in digimon the canon evolutions are always the worst ones design wise, just a bunch of humanoids on armor and wings but they are the best stat wise and are almost forced on you
While the weird cool choices are shit that nobody uses
This just proves that Pokemon peaked stylistically in Gen 1 and has never recovered
It's like Jurassic Park in that way, it's a simultaneously incredibly dates aesthetic but somehow no one had come close to replicating it, let alone surpassing it
At least Digimon series had a fuckload of character development: many Digimon died during Myotismon and Piemon arcs and Matt has traveled to Mars in Adventure 02, meanwhile in Porkeymanez, showrunners couldn't make Ass Ketchup or Pikachu to die from old age.
NTA but that's because they had a good thing going with Digimon World where they adapted the V-pets into a game but didn't iron out the flaws with a sequel.
Current pokedesigns are too round like calarts. Their new legendaries or mythical DLC pokeshits are literally the incarnation of calarts.
Current digidesigns still have edges and sometimes booba, edges make cool designs and booba is life.
Not realism, just cohesion. The evolutions make no fucking sense in relation to each other.
Even the fucking cartoons are all vastly different from season to season - the digiworld constantly changes.
>Oversimplifying the core mechanic of what makes pokemon game a pokemon game
Youre a retard arent you?
2 weeks ago
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then TELL THEM, you can't, you have bought the same shit for 20 years and will keep doing it.
2 weeks ago
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I dont get it. Do you want pokemon to go the FF route where the core mechanic of the game is different than the originals?
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> Kingdom Hearts > Devil May Cry > Metal Gear Solid > Monster Hunter > Street Fighters
any of those franchises show a clear improvement but Pokemon? nothing at all.
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>Those games >Improvement
This is a bait. No one else reply.
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>any of those franchises show a clear improvement but Pokemon?
Except for MH they've all changed less than pokemon.
2 weeks ago
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who could forget them adding a single mechanic and then ditching it the next game for a different one
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So many good mechanics have been needlessly thrown in the trash for no reason. Pokemon Contest, Battle Frontier, Super Training Minigames, Unique Scenarios for each Legendary and Mythic Pokemon, Post Game Content, Safari Zone, DexNav, Reverse Pokemon Battles, etc.
I hate how many concepts are going to waste all because Game Freak and Pokemon Company are too lazy, greedy, and incompetent.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ridiculous amount of padding in this list. Not every single feature introduced for a game needs to be in every single game afterwords forever, super training for example serves no purpose when you can vitamin to cap and "Post game content" clearly just is a second listing of Battle Frontier since these games obviously have post game content.
2 weeks ago
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What fucking padding, you retard. >Post game content is just a listing of Battle Frontier
Post Game Content means story content after the league like Kanto in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the extra island in Platinum, the unlockable areas in Black/White, etc. >Not every single feature introduced needs to be in every single game afterwards
All I want is side activities that were in past games and are a nice change of pace from battling. But apparently, that's too much to ask according to you.
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>Post Game Content means story content after the league like Kanto in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the extra island in Platinum, the unlockable areas in Black/White, etc.
Oh so you use your own personal definition of “post game content” and not the common usage to avoid the reality that modern Pokemon games have post game content lol. Even fucking Swsh has post game story content.
I would like more side content leaning into the pet element too but I can live without it.
2 weeks ago
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>but I can live without it.
Of course, pokefags are used to eating shit.
>go ahead tell me the all these wonderful improvements they have made
Over the years?
Splitting the special stat into special attack and defence
Adding shiny pokemon
Revamping the entire stat system
Adding abilities
Adding natures
Adding form differences
Adding Contests
Adding secret bases
Adding ribbons
Adding double battles
Adding move categories
Adding triples
Adding rotations
That's only up to gen 5 and I haven't added some of the other beneficial changes.
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Anonymous
half of those are one time gimmick.
doubles and triple battles are in no way an improvement or perfecting anything.
the only real improvment there is the mixing up the Special and normal stats
As much as I love the genre roulette when progressing from DW1 to 4, the lack of consistency would've undoubtedly been confusing. That's not to also mention the extremely obtuse way certain entries are designed that can stop your playthrough in its tracks. Pokemon on the other hand is the same structure each time simply with extra stuff sprinkled on top AND I don't have to worry about retarded design choices that make me drop it.
On one hand >baby's first RPG, safe and easy intro to the world of vidya, simple and repetitive, if you played more than 2 games you have autism.
On the other >Tamagochi's spergful formula that keeps changing every 5 years, it's a shadow of it's former self, the early games that the franchise is known for are disregarded because it keeps flipping shit around, it's doomed to forever be compared to pokemon.
In conclusion: both suck, one is simple and repetitive and the other is a mess, Realism has nothing to do with it and OP is a gay.
I miss when Digimon was just a Tamagotchi that you could train up to fight. Then it became about them having temporary evolutions and lost all the pet aspects. The original Digimon World was great.
digimon pets fucking suck, they never move past the nostalgiabait models that are old tamagotchi reskins. even their attempt at a modern one was awful, they tried doing the tamagotchi watch thing and basically just made a shitty watch with a gif on it.
they need to copy the tamagotchi uni and put some different shit to do on there.
They're computer programs, they can be whatever they want. Pokemon are supposed to be biological creatures but some of them make no fucking sense. How does a sentient pokeball function as an organism?
Digimon was ahead of its time. Pokemon designs aren't interesting anymore. In the future cyborgs will be much more prevalent, and that includes animals and pets. It is the next line in "evolution"
Man, I don't know how you guys know so much about these franchises. I liked them as a kid too (6-8) and I literally don't remember anything about them. You played/watched them as kids, right?
Childhood is liking digimon.
20s "Adulthood" is giving up childish things like digimon.
30s adulthood is learning all 1,400 digimon spending $3,000 on merch.
Kek. I used to play Digimon World all day as a kid, but all I remember now is that my digimon always evolved into the shitty ones. I could never get the good evolutions.
Apparently its super easy to get numemon if you do shit like over train the monster, so trying to avoid getting it usually by training can mean you get it
>if you do shit like over train the monster
nah that just lowers happiness and causes your mon to die faster.
evos are determined by care mistakes, weight, and stats. there's also an optional requirement that varies from evo to evo (battles above or below a number, discipline above or below a certain threshhold, number of known techs, etc.)
>lack of realism.
But Pokemon is far more nonsensical and unrealistic >literal cockfighting until one of the creatures faints.
"lol it's ok because we can get them patched up at the pokemon center" >te- I mean 14-year-olds roaming the land unsupervised despite the clear danger posed by supernatural creatures that can melt mountains, flood villages, etc. >kids capturing said supernatural flora and fauna and wantonly, breeding them, and releasing them into the wild whenever >kids going after criminal gangs (that the police can't bust but kids apparently can) >said criminal gangs participating in cockfights instead of just shooting/gassing people or sicing their pokemon on humans
Pokemon's setting is too retarded and doesn't make sense. btw PMD was great until Sky.
Realism has never mattered to Pokemon, nobody liked Charizard, Gyrados or Snorlax because they were "realistic"
Digimon suffers because the mechanics around digivolution obtuse and it's never had a game that made it all work, they could easily cash in on Gen X nostalgia if Bandai ever got their shit together and actually made a decent RPG
>digital world creatures >realism
It makes sense for pokemon since they are like the animals of their world. Digimon are some kind of weird alien people from another universe.
>digital world is another universe >digimon can talk to humans without problem >a lot of digimon end up looking very human-like
Ok, I'm no expert, but please tell me where exactly I'm wrong then?
Digimon is better because 99% of the time there is a reasonable chain of evolutions but you also get like 600 other choices in case you want to branch out.
Digimon did what Pokemon should have done years ago, variants. No one gives a shit about regional Pidgey #28 but people go crazy over another variant of Charizard. All Pokemon should have some form of Eeveeism.
The thing that Pokemon did that Digimon should have followed was have specific lines and not have your cool birdmon randomly turn into a literal shitmon.
>Digimon did what Pokemon should have done years ago, variants
Literally no one wants endless recolors. Especially not in the way digimon does it where they're exact recolors.
Ay yo get fucked. I won't have people talking shit about my Gotsumon > Icemon > Meteormon line. Digimon's cardinal sin is not giving our boy Gotsumon a mega evolution which is just another recolor.
>Literally no one wants endless recolors.
Did I say that? Besides they're already doing it with reginal forms, which is what I am talking about, and people eat that shit up so no not literally no one wants endless recolors.
>say that yo shiny hunters,
I don't think you understand. Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex. They're all the exact same pokemon with a different color.
Omegamon zwart, imperialdramon black, gold guardramon, rapidmon armor, chaos Dukemon, Snow Agumon, black Agumon, kuzuhamon, Alraumon, black Garurumon, black Gaogamon, ghoulmon black, muchomon, tsukaimon, geremon, mud frigimon, gigadramon, red vegimon,gold v-dramon, psychemon, solarmon, clear Agumon, piddomon, Omegamon Alter B
They're all the same as their originals.
No design variation, just recolors >also Pokemon is doing variants even more than Digimon ever did
No.
Not at all. If you believe this you don't know shit about digimon.
>but that's wrong for some of the ones you listed
It's not, you made the mistake of thinking I listed something like alter B as a variant of regular Omega and not Alter S.
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It is.
And yes, Alter-B is one of them, go look again.
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Anonymous
>Alter-B is one of them
It's not. Don't make a claim if you don't know what you're talking about.
But this is the part where you grasp and say >but the smoke.
>Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex
Digimon does not have a numbered dex in which space can be "taken up" by recolors. Make as many variants as you want, who cares.
>Digimon does not have a numbered dex in which space can be "taken up" by recolors
It does.
Even the vpets have compendiums.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No. They do not have fixed number designations like Pokémon. There are lists of Digimon.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They do not have fixed number designations like Pokémon.
Yes, yes they do.
Each game has a compendium anon, they are numbered in each game.
In next order Agumon is 023, black Agumon is 45, Snow Agumon is 46.
It's a monster tamer, they're all like that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>In next order
R E T A R D
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay, then cyber sleuth
Agumon is 18
Black is 19
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We are not talking about individual games, you SPED.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He thinks you're referring to it in general like Pokemon's Nat dex and not game by game.
Basically these people have neve touched a digimon game.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I started the fucking topic, you ignorant tool. I am talking about Digimon as a franchise. The existence of recolor digimon does not "take up space" because there is no space to take up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I started the fucking topic
Yeah, and you fucked up because you said a fucking monster tamer didn't have a compendium.
Digimon has a massive one in the reference book, they're not numbered but it's still a compendium where recolors have their own entries.
https://digimon.net/reference_en/detail.php?directory_name=growmon_orange
https://digimon.net/reference_en/detail.php?directory_name=growmon
The whole point the other anon was making is that unlike pokemon exact recolors aren't counted as their own mon, hell regional variants aren't either a galarian zigzagoon and a regular zigzagoon are both 31.
You fucked up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>said a fucking monster tamer didn't have a compendium
1. Digimon is not a "monster tamer" it's first and foremost a vpet franchise and related media
2. No I most certainly did not. I said Digimon, as a franchise, does not have a numbered dex. This is factually correct. The Digimon Reference book does not have numeric designations for Digimon.
When you find out you were wrong about something, at least have the decency to go "oops I misunderstood" instead of trying to fucking rewrite history when it is right there for everyone to see.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Digimon is not a "monster tamer"
Stopped reading here. It's a vpet series you dumbass.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't tame pets, you illiterate mongoloid, they are already tame from birth.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Raising them IS taming them you moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
By definition, no, it is not.
>tame >verb >to reduce from a wild to a domestic state.
Pets are domesticated to begin with and thus do not need to be tamed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You ESLs are such fucking morons. >tame >adjective >not wild or dangerous, either naturally or because of training or long involvement with humans
>tame >verb >to control something dangerous or powerful
>tame >adjective (US) >not wild or fierce, either naturally or because of training or long involvement with humans
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In what way do you believe the verb definition you just listed contradicts the definition I posted?
Why did you bother posting adjective definitions when we are not talking about the adjective form of the word tame?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I said Digimon, as a franchise, does not have a numbered dex
NTA but no one said anything about numbers until you did.
>say that yo shiny hunters,
I don't think you understand. Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex. They're all the exact same pokemon with a different color.
Omegamon zwart, imperialdramon black, gold guardramon, rapidmon armor, chaos Dukemon, Snow Agumon, black Agumon, kuzuhamon, Alraumon, black Garurumon, black Gaogamon, ghoulmon black, muchomon, tsukaimon, geremon, mud frigimon, gigadramon, red vegimon,gold v-dramon, psychemon, solarmon, clear Agumon, piddomon, Omegamon Alter B
They're all the same as their originals.
No design variation, just recolors >also Pokemon is doing variants even more than Digimon ever did
No.
Not at all. If you believe this you don't know shit about digimon.
This post basically sparked the whole thing and he's just saying that variants are counted as the same mon in pokemon while they aren't in digimon.
You pulled out the numbers cope
>Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex
Digimon does not have a numbered dex in which space can be "taken up" by recolors. Make as many variants as you want, who cares.
Even though numbers didn't matter and then you were connected on that matter regarding individual games.
You're wrong on all accounts.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no one said anything about numbers until you did
Yes retard, I started the conversation. Anon A complains about recolors taking up space
Anon B (me) points out that there is no "space" to take up, because it isn't as if they are part of a numbered dex.
How is this hard to comprehend?
>then you were connected on that matter regarding individual games.
What ESL babble is this?
And no, as you can see from my first post, I said "Digimon", as in the franchise as a whole.
Listing individual games where they are numbered is a meaningless gotcha, because it is not the topic of conversation.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Anon A complains about recolors taking up space
Anon, you're seeing it like a rosterfag. It's not a space as in >oh no my favorite didn't get in because they had limited slots!
It's a space as in entry. >Anon B (me) points out that there is no "space" to take up, because it isn't as if they are part of a numbered dex.
Which doesn't matter because no one was talking about numbers until you brought it up >How is this hard to comprehend?
You're the one getting everything wrong here.
>What ESL babble is this?
It's called a typo. If you understood English you would understand what was said. >Listing individual games where they are numbered is a meaningless gotcha, because it is not the topic of conversation.
It's hardly meaningless when you made the claim that digimon never had a compendium.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's a space as in entry.
Utter gibberish. What space is being taken up? You cannot answer this.
>Which doesn't matter because no one was talking about numbers until you brought it up
Right. I started the conversation. That's how time works.
>You're the one getting everything wrong here.
Not one single thing. You are making me more right with every post.
>If you understood English you would understand what was said. >Just guess what I meant bro
No.
>you made the claim that digimon never had a compendium.
Demonstrably false.
Are we going to just keep going in circles now where I prove you wrong and you ignore reality?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What space is being taken up?
Anon, this isn't a rosterfag thing. There is no finite space. A space just means entry.
Digimon variants have separate entries
Pokemon variants do not.
This is a very simple concept and I have no idea why you're struggling to understand.
> I started the conversation
Yes, you started the conversation but you didn't start this topic of digimon taking up separate spaces.
>You are making me more right with every post.
If you have to call yourself right without actually trying to show how in a way that doesn't disregard the entire conversation then you aren't.
>No
It's literally just two letters. It auto corrected corrected to connected. There's no guessing involved if you're fluent in the language.
>Demonstrably false
>Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex
Digimon does not have a numbered dex in which space can be "taken up" by recolors. Make as many variants as you want, who cares.
>Digimon does not have a numbered dex
The reference book doesn't have numbers but the games and vpets do.
Because you brought up numbers everyone is going to assume you're talking about them.
Do you understand
Of course you don't, who am I kidding.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>There is no finite space
Which is precisely what my argument was, ding dong.
>A space just means entry.
Again, that's gibberish. Additionally, we are not talking about "a space", we are talking about "taking up space", as per the words of the first poster I replied to.
>without actually trying to show how
I have repeatedly proved it. Look at the conversation, you will see that not a single thing I have said is incorrect. Every thing you and others claim was incorrect was something I factually did not say. You have no argument.
>corrected
Corrected also doesn't make sense because I was not corrected on anything, because nothing I said was incorrect.
>The reference book doesn't have numbers but the games and vpets do.
God you are dense. I was never, at any point talking about individual games or entries in the franchise. Bringing them up is irrelevant. Digimon as a franchise does not have a numbering system for individual Digimon. This is what I said from the beginning. This is, was, and always will be 100% correct and factual no matter how much you try to move the goal posts.
You cannot prove me wrong because I am not wrong. I know you want to be right too some day, but today just isn't that day, sorry.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
thats just a compilation of digimon, its not a dex
bulbasaur is #1
always will be number #1
ivysaur is #2
always will be #2
sure, they have regional dex's as well, but there is a definite numbering and each pokemon has its assigned number
this is not the case AT ALL with digimon.
it always really annoyed me that the great ape transformations where completely dropped after the saiyan saga. GT leaning back into the monkey aspect was one of the only redeeming things about it
>Also you're a groomer.
Yes, it's perfectly natural when men do it to young girls.
It's why it's called Bride & GROOM.
whats sick is men doing it to boys.
>The problem with digimon
lol
lmao
Digimon is doing great right now, better than TPCI pissing in their fans faces and greeding the fuck out.
No single misstep in Digimon's awkward history has been worse than how Pokémon is now being handled.
I will never understand this brainlet opinion. You don't have to memorize what can evolve into what, and in fact there are no real rules. Why would it be a problem if Digimon A can evolve into something that looks very different? Why does it matter?
digimon aren't biological creatures, they're digital information. They "evolve" by taking scraps of code they've absorbed from fighting and incorporating the functions into their pre-existing code.
The closest analogue I can think of is the nanites created by the HK crime boss in the sci-fi novel The Diamond Age.
Honey, sweetie, precious child, every generation of both franchises has absolute chud gay shit in it. Gen 1 of Pokemon, the worshiped and revered gen that can do no wrong, had Magmar, Jynx, Mr. Mime, Exeggute, Exeggutor, Dragonite, and Porygon. Digimon started out with things like Nanomon, a ball with a goatee and sunglasses and musclebuilder arms and legs, a sentient pile of shit with a mouse riding it, and Oscar the Grouch with a rocket launcher that fired its own shit. Digimon is obsessed with shit.
Pokémon had a higher proportion of good to bad designs, but I have always found Digimon designs more fun and interesting.
But nowadays, new Pokémon are all retarded and we have been getting nothing but quality with Digimon designs lately.
Weird how it's okay for every other monster franchise to have humanoid monsters, but everyone loses their damn fool minds when Pokemon has them, especially when it's had them since the very start and no one threw tantrums about it then.
Which is retarded as shit, Digimon are created from human-made data, they're going to be or incorporate things like human data and armor data. The people who whine are the ones who think the only acceptable monsters are eldritch shit or animal-men.
Does come from Pokemon fans who are just mocking or are disproving digimon for being unlike Pokemon. When it comes to any other thing that has a roster of monsters as a selling point a human isn't shunned. Dragon Quest, Ultraman, SMT all of them get away wit people mons.
Yggdrasil is the God of the digital world, that is true. But there are multiple Yggdrasil, just as there are multiple digital worlds.
And sometimes they wage war on each other, fun stuff.
Out of curiosity, when does the wider Digimon fandom consider "nu-digimon" to start? Pokemon fans usually consider gen 5 or 6 to be the start and 7 when it truly went to shit, at least from what I've seen.
There are lots of different eras with differing design philosophies, such as the X-Antibody Digimon ("let's have artists who never worked on Digimon before reinterpret existing designs") or Applimon ("Digimon but smartphone apps"). Those two that I've named are particularly divisive. In recent years, designs have moved back to what you might call the "classic" monstrous style, with many new creatures feeling like they could've easily fit in with stuff from the older V-Pets on release.
Others have been in your place before, and they get immediately overwhelmed by the complexity and retardation of most of the games:
The only game that's playable for someone new to the franchise is Cyber Sleuth.
>Hop in NOW my cute little 14 year old boy
What did she mean by this?
>Repeated empty maps >Being trained as a Sleuth but only end up becoming an errant boy/girl >Hot chick endlessly blue-balls you >Friend is too retarded to realize that his crush is being brainwashed, hell everyone there is too retarded to realize that people are being brainwashed despite acting like a cartoon version of being brainwashed >Most characters are useless >Meta is to have 3 platinum shits in your main squad >Unskippable combat cutscenes
The only thing I can give them credit is for making an old man be the coolest character
Isn't it weird there are completely adult humanoid looking digimon like Angemon, and there are games where you play as a little kid and have to be the one taking care of them like a pet? >This guy needs your help to go potty. Go wipe.
>there are people in the year of our lord 2023 who still defend pokemon
You could take any random monster themed steam or hell even itch.io shoveware and it would be better than that dogshit franchise.
This. They need a ball that shoot laser that shrinks the monster to put them into a ball. I'm still impressed that Bill Gates invented this technology in real world, and Pokemon used it as inspiration to make their universe more realistic and believable.
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[...] >Repeated empty maps >Being trained as a Sleuth but only end up becoming an errant boy/girl >Hot chick endlessly blue-balls you >Friend is too retarded to realize that his crush is being brainwashed, hell everyone there is too retarded to realize that people are being brainwashed despite acting like a cartoon version of being brainwashed >Most characters are useless >Meta is to have 3 platinum shits in your main squad >Unskippable combat cutscenes
The only thing I can give them credit is for making an old man be the coolest character
>Hot chick endlessly blue-balls you
That's the best part
Adventure is an "Isekai"
Adventure 2 is also an "Isekai"
But Tamers is some sort of card game that turns into a psychological horror
Then Frontier is Super Sentai
Then Savers is a Buddy Cop
Then Xros Wars/Hunters who Leap Through Time is shit
Then Appmon was something entirely different (didn't watch)
Then Colon went back to being an "isekai"
Then Ghost Game is a Gegege reskin/folklore tales.
And it also extends to the games
Digimon World 1 is a pet sim
World 2 is a dungeon crawler
World 3 is a standard JRPG
World 4 is a Diablo Clone
Then Next Order went back to being a petsim.
You never know what to expect when you're getting into Digimon, which is why people have widely different opinions of each entry.
The game producer said a few years ago that they've settled for 2 main formulas: CS and Digimon World, with the occasional spon-off like Survive.
That said, I find it weird that you neglected to mention the massive branding fuckup in the West during the DS era, where they released all games under the "World" subtitle.
Also Digital Card Battle is fun.
In Digimon I always dislike how so many of the finals evolutions were just humans in suits of armor. But do you know what's worse than that? Modern pokemon where final evolutions are just a gay in a fur suit.
>In Digimon I always dislike how so many of the finals evolutions were just humans in suits of armor
I can't disagree with this sentiment, but I do enjoy some of the armored human designs. I just wish there was a better balance of monsters an dudes-in-armor at the high end.
the problem with digimon was the shitty dub that ruined the franchise for the americans.
Fuck off moron, the dub was great, unironically the best kids show dub ever made because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it and did their best to keep as much mature shit in the show as possible. They even got away with them talking about terrorist bombings. The only thing that suffered was the soundtrack. Tired of you gays probably turd worlders that shit on the dub.
>because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it
You know you're talking about digimon, right?
>because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it and did their best to keep as much mature shit in the show as possible
WHY DO ALL OF YOU GET THE PIZZA, WHILE I GET THE CRUST!
And hot and cold running water
I watched the episode in your pic in English and German and the German dub was superior. I don't speak German and I don't like the language but it really was better. They cut the scenes in a different and much better way, I could not believe it. Even the music and sound effects are different and the meaning and tone of the scenes is completely changed. It's like US had to infantilize and water down a show for kids for some reason. Even the way he appears is rushed and "bombastic" instead of slow, methodical and menacing.
US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay7Cs7over0
GER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-FhL82STA
It really is just one step away from being an abridged dub isn't it.
I laughed when I heard "you get the pizza while I get the crust", it's really going into the parody territory at times.
>the dub was great, unironically the best kids show dub ever made because they went out of their way to not westernize the shit out of it and did their best to keep as much mature shit in the show
Holy fuck, how can dubfags be THIS delusional?
>The only thing that suffered was the soundtrack
And not the first three films, sorry, "Digimon The Movie"?
They cut out a solid chunk of Hurricane Touchdown didn't they?
I think it was ten minutes of the first movie, twenty minutes of the second movie, and thirty minutes of the third movie. And the remaining pieces were then violently Hulk-smashed together into the tangled insane mess that was The Movie. The funny thing is the producer didn't want to do that at all, he wanted to just dub and release each film, but FOX was all "Fuck you, bro!".
>unironically defending 4kids
You are not a human being.
Digimon was not dubbed by 4Kids.
"They hated him because he spoke the truth."
>The only thing that suffered was the soundtrack
I still maintain that a lot of the instrumental pieces of the dub should be adopted by the franchise proper. I will happily abandon the lyrical pieces (though I do like Strange), but the instrumental stuff was very atmospheric, tasteful, and appropriate.
I'm sorry, you seem to have it confused with Teknoman and Ronin Warriors.
>shitty dub
challenge accepted
It was shite, but the translation was faithful to the original as opposed to the American version that was aggressively localized.
the dub was funny and still has soul and the monsters are way better than those gay pokemans
>seething dubmorons responding
Yep, that's how you know it was fippy bippy. Well done anon.
I dunno about the english dub but the finnish one was based beyond belief
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>Only acknowledging the Agapio meme that didn't last for one full season
I counter by attesting the Werne dub's opening songs for Adventure and 02 were better than the Japan originals
>better than the Japan originals
I'm Finnish and they absolutely are not, what the fuck are you smoking
Cats don't evolve into Lions either.
Its close though. They are in the same family
Littlleo is also a lion.
On this, care to explain suicune and Raikou actually turning into dinosaurs and giving me an example of a cat turning into one in Digimon? Because if we have to be this literal....
An imagination machine turned somebody’s raptor Jesus OC suicune real, it’s not an evolution or anything separate Pokemon
>suicune and Raikou actually turning into dinosaurs
Thats not evolution at all like the OP images is trying convey retard. Retard
That's right. It's worse. It's turning a mammal into a reptile.
>Turning
Theyre different, retard
They're PARADOX Pokemon, you thundering caterpillar fucker. They're not even meant to exist, nothing about them makes sense. They were created by an eldritch force in Area Zero taking a guy's fever dreams and messing with his time machine.
Holy shit. Pokemon lore has fallen
How fragile and weak are you people that something like this sends you into insane depression? Were you also mentally-damaged by the whole "the Pokemon who made earth and sea hate each other and their big brother in the sky has to keep them at peace" thing in Gen 3, or the fact you could catch a manifestation of God himself in Gen 4?
Strawman
Pardon, I find it difficult to believe that grown men act this way over children's toys.
You want to know the fun part?
None of that he said is in the game.
>care to explain suicune and Raikou actually turning into dinosaurs
Other way around and it's real world evolution so that's what they looked like millions of years ago.
As for this
>and giving me an example of a cat turning into one in Digimon?
Nyaromon can evolve into Agumon in one of the pendulum pets but we need the opposite like Agumon to Greymon to Divermon to Saber Leomon.
So you can go from a Cat to Dino to fish back to cat
>giving me an example of a cat turning into one in Digimon
Gatomon turns into an angel who then turns into Falkor the Luck Dragon.
The important thing is that there is a consistent theme.
Cat grows into bigger cat which grows into biggest cat
i mean dog into bigger dog with a gun is also consistent
Cats dont evolve period stupidass
Yeah and they definitely don't post on online imageboards
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20 years later.
I'm still mad.
She only likes incest sorry.
fuck that ending
im more pissed off about matt and sora
in fact fuck yolei and ken too
why did Sora had to get with Matt?
it's like the digimon creators hated childhood friend couples
You are aware that she's Furiae 2.0 right?
The new movie will fix it.
>tentacles
>a bride
I know nothing about digimon but it looks like she's set on marrying cthulhu
One of the episodes has the character travel to Innsmouth where she nearly gets kidnapped by Deep Ones to "create new offspring" with their master.
I wish the dark ocean plot went somewhere.
And I also wish Millenniumon was the final boss and not myotismon
It was a standalone episode for Konaka to get his feet wet before writing Tamers. The "plot", such as it was, resolved on its own.
wasnt the last digimon adventure movie supposed to be the big send off?
Yeah.
To adventure 01, this is for adventure 02.
They killed Agumon and Gabumon and gave them hideous megas.
>They killed Agumon and Gabumon
Thank goodness they spoiled Adventure's ending over 20 years ago, otherwise that might have held any dramatic weight,
Japanese never give up a chance to have more tentacle sex
AAAAAA TENTACLE DIGIMONS CHLUTHIAN IM GOING MAD SAVE ME moronMON
Is that one of those anti-rape whistles?
Its a camera
Why would you be mad at something that was logical?
No it isnt
Sorry dude, but she likes big brother cock.
About what, idgi
Hikari....sexo....
>best kari artist ever
>not a single nude
Bastard!
She only loves her brother.
HEY THERE, DIGI-PALS!
OH HELL NO!
Anon, why did you have to remind me of their existence...
I remember having a VHS of one of the Digi movies and this fucking shit was plastered at the very beginning. I am pretty sure this short was the first time my soft, malleable child skull ever felt the increased blood pressure that comes with seething hatred for something.
It's at the beginning of the DVD too, and not as a skippable extra because it is PART OF THE MOVIE.
qrd?
Kari cucked TK with Angemon
time to post it again
This one hurts even worse. Did Tai really deserve to be cucked not once, but twice by the same family?
i cannot believe the amount of subhuman tumblr roasties on this website that unironically give a shit about fucking digimon shipping of all things
Ganker is basically reddit in denial. This board is complete shite.
What's with him and retarded hats?
I always had the biggest crush on Kari as a kid because 02. Had lots of erotic dreams about her. Even to this day, I still think she's cute. I don't even know what it is.
Its because youre a pedophile
I was 10 years old when I had a crush on her anon.
That just means youre attracted to kids very early. It means youre going to be a sex offender pedophile later in life
You're genuinely retarded anon... Me and every boy I knew growing up had crushes on girls for as long as I can remember. I had my first kiss when I was 7 with a childhood friend who was 1 year older than me. I remember tell mine and her parents that we'd get married when we were older cause that's what she wanted. I musta been like 6 at the time.
What is this? Anime? Fuck off pedo. Die
No anon, it's real life. You have a very twisted view on the world.
Yeah yeah everyone believes you. Kys
I don't care if you believe me or not. Doesn't change the fact that it's perfectly normal for young boys to like girls you idiot.
Nah youre just a pedo hiding behind the term 'e-boicon'
Young boys should only want to fuck older women, specially their own moms
Bro he's acting retarded on purpose, just ignore him.
At least is not like other kids who openly decide that they'll become Fido's bitch at early age
And the games are shit
pokemon made me a gamer and digimon made me a furry
no its the lack of good games
Just like pokemon then
Pokemon has colosseum, A good game
Digimon has nothing
>b-b-bu
No
Every single Pokémon game, yes, including THAT one, shits all over every Digimon game hands down without fail. Which is an utter shame because I genuinely believe that Digimon has the ability to beat Pokémon, but it just cannot do it.
Both are shit but pokemon is still miles ahead better because OP makes a good point
also don't forget that littleo/pyroar have no middle stage
You are taking this example too literally. Obviously the 3 stage example is more of a nod to starter pokemon mechanics, the first thing a normalfag's mind goes to.
There also isn't a minigun fridge digimon, you donkey
The evolutions are cool, it's just that there are too many of them. A lot of digimon have ridiculous long lines and it makes the player stressed and worried which path to take. Pokemon feels like you can grow attachment to them. Digimon feels like a soulless gacha and every evolution is a new roll, especially when they hardly resemble the previous mon.
>Digimon feels like a soulless gacha and every evolution is a new roll
But anon, the vast majority of the time that evolution is result of how you raised it.
If you get a numemon, its not because you were unlucky, its because were a shit tamer and made many mistakes. On the other hand, getting the mon that continues the themiing and design is your reward for being good at it.
Not really. If anything it's even easier to get attached to Digimon because their evolutions are directly attached to the way you treat and raise them. There's whole biographies that state 'a good heart will turn your digimon into X whereas a heart of mailce will do Y.'
If your mon ends up completely different from its previous form then you fucked up somehow.
soul
I dislike the aspect of compulsively evolving and devolving your digimon to try to maximize their stats. Pokemon has breeding autism and shines that are also equally unfun but they don't really interrupt the flow of gameplay like minmaxing does if you play cyberslueth on hard mode (big mistake).
Funny how the top tier digi evolutions either result in some 11th dimensional looking god person or some autistic combination of metals/dragons/guns
How can Digifags look at this and defend it
Because they're cool
Branching evolution is fun and the final stages should look godly or like a Final Fantasy boss if they're hard to get. You just don't like the look and want to call it bad to validate yourself.
Puppetmon is my bro
Same
I like this line for him personally:
>Gotsumon
>Golemon
>Pumpkinmon
>Puppetmon
Has an interesting progression while staying in theme of animated objects.
For me, it's:
>Nise Agumon Hakase
>Publimon
>Pumpmon
>Pinochimon
Lies and deceit
I don't like Digimon because there's way too many branching evolutions, which means there's a lot of designs I like but aren't the "final step", so I can't get attached to it.
For example I love Gengar's design, it's the best for me, I like that the design it has is the final step because it means I can work with it as it is and don't need to replace the design.
With Digimon though it often is the case that early designs are super fucking cool but the more it evolves and becomes humanoid, the more chances it has to become a generic anime girl/dude cosplaying.
I mean look at this shit.
You have a fucking kiwi, a penguin with a bush... and then a generic human wearing a sort of bird costume.
Or on the left, cool spiky seed, then pikmin look alike then huge bear stance flower dude... and then woman with flower costume.
It's digiMON, MON for MONSTER: cosplaying humans aren't monsters.
It's as if my beloved Gengar turned into pic related, I wouldn't like it anymore.
Digimon evolution are fucking great and are only hated by literal brainlets who can't handle even the most basic of choices
OP is correct. Its sucks and unrealistic
>which path to take
The coolest one.
I fucking love how everything turns into mecha
You serious mate? Its unrealistic.
You digitards are braindead
>unrealistic
>muh realism
who cares it's fucking cool
the laser is non-canon, it's the pokemon themselves that have the ability to shrink
>cool
Ah yes im talking to a child
t. autistic manchild with a way too high opinion of himself
t. Literal child
>childrens cartoon
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>plays fantasy games for """realism""" instead of having fun and seeing cool shit
how are you real
>Its unrealistic.
Because Pokemon totally makes a lot of sense. See
More realistic than digiturd
The digivolutions branching like they do is fine. One of the big reasons Pokemon took off though is the fact you could take it anywhere to either trade or battle with other kids on the school bus or train. Digimon didn't have that outside those G1 and G2 low budget digivices. Some of their earliest games were on Playstation which admittedly I know nothing about due to never owning that system back then. Were you allowed to take your memory card over to your friend's place and battle their Digimon? If not that's unfortunate since Pokemon allowed you to interact with others there and now because it was always in your pocket.
Digimon always seemed to treat itself as a solitary experience. Even Medabots games encouraged interacting with other people and actively trading parts with each other via link cables. Shit I'm pretty certain even the first Beyblade games on GameBoy Color let you do that.
>Were you allowed to take your memory card over to your friend's place and battle their Digimon?
Yup, the first Digimon World let you do this.
The digimon one should have another prevo and evo
Also every line has like 6 branch evolutions
The problem with digimon is Nostalgia and nostalgiafags
Are you talking about the people who have kept the franchise alive and somewhat relevant?
Do you want a discount YW? Because that's what modern Pokémon is.
No, that's the problem with pokemon.
Digimon has always been a 7~8/10 franchies.
Modern pokemon is a 3/10 at best but gets a free pass because muh POKEMON nostalgia
>Digimon has always been a 7~8/10 franchies
Eh, where the games are concerned? Not really.
It's a meh tier monster tamer at best and I wish it were as good as pokemon.
I dunno, outside unfinished messes like survive, digimon doesn't really have genuinely BAD games, just really, really mediocre as the average. Digimon's best games are both highly kino but with huge flaws that drag them down.
Older pokemon was good sure, but since it went 3D it's been on a steady downhill. Honestly the only digimon game I could argue that even comes as close to as bad as Sw/Sh or Sc/Vi are the mobile gacha shit like links.
>Older pokemon was good sure, but since it went 3D it's been on a steady downhill.
Thing is, pokemon only looks bad compared to itself. If you compare it to non pokemon games then it just comes out on top minus the graphical glitches
I mean, compare SS to Hacker's Memory and pokemon wins in the most important areas
>larger roster
>no exact recolors
>reasons to catch multiple (shinies, titles etc)
>evolution methods aren't tedious
>obtaining new moves is quick and easy through tms/tutors rather than evolving up and down different lines
>more reasons to replay content (rare items, TMS etc in raids and whatever there is for BP in the tower)
>active online
Granted that's more due to popularity but still.
Anyway you get the picture, even in it's dire state pokemon is still a bit more fleshed out compared to digimon.
Which makes me sad to be honest because Digimon has this exact same potential.
Temtem actually compares favorably to Pokemon in gameplay but the designs make it a hard sell and the devs have given up
>Temtem actually compares favorably to Pokemon in gameplay
It has all the same shit except there’s no getting randomly dicked over by RNG bullshit
But it’s worth tolerating Pokémon’s BS for the larger roster and activity
Compared to other games? Pokemon is incredibly weak for a JRPG
Talking about other monster tamers here buddy
Which one? Monster rancher? AHaHAAHAHAHAHA
I always thought of monster tamer as more of a theme than a genre. I wouldn't compare Pokemon to something like Slime Rancher for example
Try
>Fossil Fighters
>Keitai Denjuu Telefang (English patch)
>Jade Cocoon
>doing shit that other jrpgs couldn't be bothered with
What would that be? The computer and the player are under the same rules? PVP? Because DQIV and SMT beat them to the punch on monster recruitment.
>Because DQIV and SMT beat them to the punch on monster recruitment.
You don't really play jrpgs for the gameplay do you
I do
pokemon managed to carve out a giant niche doing shit that other jrpgs couldn't be bothered with so it's hard to compare even if I'd agree that pokemon generally lags behind in many areas
Oh noes incels and betas are playing pvp. That means its better
THANK YOU GENIES
THANK YOU GENIES
THANK YOU GENIES
Pokemon is strong at what it wants to be strong at. People who complain about Pokemon are generally people with an emotional attachment to the creatures upset that it’s not focused on being a tightly balanced single player experience
The thing is Pokemon is a JRPG that's also trying to balance being a competitive game, so it kind of fucks the main story, so anyone can play it, and leave the real depth for battling other players
Back when the Battle Frontier was around, it pretty much required you to know Pokemon on a competitive level to be able to complete them
But we have real life tournaments backed by The Pokemon Company as well, just to hammer this in more
Dragon Quest Monsters is a great one. You don't know how much Pokémon socks until you play one.
Eh, I like DQM but I'd still pick pokemon.
I hope the new game does better.
This is the sad truth
If you are a monster game fan you dont have many options and pokemon still has a lot of stuff in it even if the campaigns are fucking boring now
>digimon doesn't really have genuinely BAD games
Have you played
>Digimon World 4 (Digimon if it Diablo. Decent concept, horrible execution)
>Digmon Rumble Arena 2 (a Brawl clone with inconsistent recovery, FALL DAMAGE, and instant death hazards. wtf.)
>Digimon World 2 (slow as a snail. a full turn takes ~80 seconds, lots of loading screens, grindy, level cap forces you to capture, train, and fuse new mons)
>digimon world 4
its not a diablo clone retard, it plays way closer stuff like gauntlet, dark alliance, champions of norrath, etc and the diablo comparison is minimal, but I guess you don't actually know what those games are and only know diablo
its a pretty bad game, but at least make the comparison right
>rumble arena 2
rumble arena 1 was definitely heavily inspired by smash and is basically somewhere between smash and more traditional fighting games
rumble arena 2 just expands on it, its straight up just an upgrade to it, its no where near a "bad" game even if I don't like it.
and how could it be a brawl clone when its older than brawl?
>digimon world 2
is certified kino and you are a fucking retard
sorry you get filtered by dungeon crawlers or roguelikes mechanics, you just suck shit.
yes, its incredibly slow, biggest fault and a huge issue, but everything is fucking excellent.
take your fucking (you), I can't believe I took this retarded bait
>digimon world 2
I would kill for an HD remake of this with a bunch more Digimon, a better DNA Digivolving system, more mechanics, and more interesting dungeons.
you made imagine it and now I feel bad that it will never happen
Anon literally in digimon are selling you always adventure in any other product
Digimon is just following the Hindu understanding of evolution (which Darwinian evolution is based on anyways).
This is why technology and the singularity is the next step in human evolution even though it has nothing to do with natural selection itself.
We have a spiritual cycle where we transition not just from animal to animal but also from flesh to rock. (it's like reincarnation but for humanity as a whole)
The snake devours its own tail
In death we are reborn
>inb4 meds
Meds
Is that referencing a specific evolution? Most of the SMT evolutions are somewhat reasonable.
NTA, but the first SMT evolution I always think of is in SMT4 where Jack Frost """"evolves"""" into Wendigo. How does that even make sense?
I think thats supposed to be Throne. And maybe Metatron?
I remember it being some type of flaming wheel evolving into Thanatos.
>find any cat-like Pokemon
>evolves into… lion-like Pokemon!
>27 years of games
This franchise is so fucking joyless and dull lmao.
>This franchise is so fucking joyless and dull lmao.
But enough about digimon
Typical Pokémon child with their baby brain. Getting upset and pointing “B-BUT OTHER THING! OTHER THING!” POKEMON GOOD! OTHER THING BAD!”
Goo goo ga ga. Go to bed, bitch.
>child with their baby brain.
But enough about digimon fans
Because that’s so much worse than a purple rat turning into a brown rat
Is pic rel a Pokemon or Digimon evolution line?
Its devolution
Pokemon, from Saphire evolves to Kaguya at level 20 and then to Hisami with a leaf stone.
I find that in digimon the canon evolutions are always the worst ones design wise, just a bunch of humanoids on armor and wings but they are the best stat wise and are almost forced on you
While the weird cool choices are shit that nobody uses
Digimon is fine, trying to turn it into pokemon to appeal to pokedrones won't accomplish anything good for the series.
SERIOUS ZORUA
2 PIDGEYS
non-retard version zorua is actually cool. i never used it as it is.
It's literally just black vulpix
And that's a good thing, it's no longer a cartoony piece of gay trash.
the fixed later gen bird is so sick
This just proves that Pokemon peaked stylistically in Gen 1 and has never recovered
It's like Jurassic Park in that way, it's a simultaneously incredibly dates aesthetic but somehow no one had come close to replicating it, let alone surpassing it
Which is funny because that's Gen 3 art.
Shut the fuck up, gay.
moron fox would be better just black with maybe red on just the eyes, Gen 1 Garchomp is great because they took away the color
It doesn't look like a chud anymore, nice.
That rendition of Crabrawler makes it look actually good.
the worst part of digimon is the hypocrisy
What hypocrasy?
I think the worst part was the raping.
The ear raping that Usians got after they changed the original song for a fucking rap. Even Latinos got and Europeans got the original track dubbed.
realism is gay
Commandramon line is kino.
this is a cat
A cat is fine too
SEX with that cat
feline fine as well
>Anonymous 09/13/23(Wed)19:06:31 No.650695219▶
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>this is a cat
gewomon.jpg (402 KB, 2048x1536)
a stupid sexy cat
me-ow
At least Digimon series had a fuckload of character development: many Digimon died during Myotismon and Piemon arcs and Matt has traveled to Mars in Adventure 02, meanwhile in Porkeymanez, showrunners couldn't make Ass Ketchup or Pikachu to die from old age.
Where talking about the videogames you colosal fucktard
NTA but that's because they had a good thing going with Digimon World where they adapted the V-pets into a game but didn't iron out the flaws with a sequel.
realistically in nu-pokemon the cat would evolve into some kind of bara anthro
lol'd where did you find this pic
Oh somewhere online haha. It just cracked me up!
Digimon's problem is that is not as soulless as Pokemon
Current pokedesigns are too round like calarts. Their new legendaries or mythical DLC pokeshits are literally the incarnation of calarts.
Current digidesigns still have edges and sometimes booba, edges make cool designs and booba is life.
Pokemon have always been a franchise for kids and GameFreak have already reached a point where they don't have to try anymore.
wasnt the 1st movie dark and edgy?
You can make the same argument for Dragon Ball, which is just some cross-cultural kerfuffle
And gen 1 for example... Nidoking! Edge and points in his design. Gen 3, Absol! Edge.
Now current pokemon, calarts bear monkey and birb for DLC.
Not realism, just cohesion. The evolutions make no fucking sense in relation to each other.
Even the fucking cartoons are all vastly different from season to season - the digiworld constantly changes.
the problem with digimon is the games are random as fuck. You know exactly what you're getting with a pokemon game
This
Pokemon has 20 years of perfecting a singular game Digimon just throws shit at the wall
>Pokemon has 20 years of perfecting a singular game
the pokemon company has a very weird definition of perfection
perfecting? they have done not change to the formula for 20 years, all they do is make a new map and new pokemons , and that's it.
Perfecting the formula and changing the formula are polar opposites anon.
> the battles are the same as 20 years ago
> catching Pokemon is the same as years ago
> the main goal is the same as 20 years ago
go ahead tell me the all these wonderful improvements they have made
>Oversimplifying the core mechanic of what makes pokemon game a pokemon game
Youre a retard arent you?
then TELL THEM, you can't, you have bought the same shit for 20 years and will keep doing it.
I dont get it. Do you want pokemon to go the FF route where the core mechanic of the game is different than the originals?
> Kingdom Hearts
> Devil May Cry
> Metal Gear Solid
> Monster Hunter
> Street Fighters
any of those franchises show a clear improvement but Pokemon? nothing at all.
>Those games
>Improvement
This is a bait. No one else reply.
>any of those franchises show a clear improvement but Pokemon?
Except for MH they've all changed less than pokemon.
who could forget them adding a single mechanic and then ditching it the next game for a different one
So many good mechanics have been needlessly thrown in the trash for no reason. Pokemon Contest, Battle Frontier, Super Training Minigames, Unique Scenarios for each Legendary and Mythic Pokemon, Post Game Content, Safari Zone, DexNav, Reverse Pokemon Battles, etc.
I hate how many concepts are going to waste all because Game Freak and Pokemon Company are too lazy, greedy, and incompetent.
Ridiculous amount of padding in this list. Not every single feature introduced for a game needs to be in every single game afterwords forever, super training for example serves no purpose when you can vitamin to cap and "Post game content" clearly just is a second listing of Battle Frontier since these games obviously have post game content.
What fucking padding, you retard.
>Post game content is just a listing of Battle Frontier
Post Game Content means story content after the league like Kanto in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the extra island in Platinum, the unlockable areas in Black/White, etc.
>Not every single feature introduced needs to be in every single game afterwards
All I want is side activities that were in past games and are a nice change of pace from battling. But apparently, that's too much to ask according to you.
>Post Game Content means story content after the league like Kanto in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the extra island in Platinum, the unlockable areas in Black/White, etc.
Oh so you use your own personal definition of “post game content” and not the common usage to avoid the reality that modern Pokemon games have post game content lol. Even fucking Swsh has post game story content.
I would like more side content leaning into the pet element too but I can live without it.
>but I can live without it.
Of course, pokefags are used to eating shit.
>go ahead tell me the all these wonderful improvements they have made
Over the years?
Splitting the special stat into special attack and defence
Adding shiny pokemon
Revamping the entire stat system
Adding abilities
Adding natures
Adding form differences
Adding Contests
Adding secret bases
Adding ribbons
Adding double battles
Adding move categories
Adding triples
Adding rotations
That's only up to gen 5 and I haven't added some of the other beneficial changes.
half of those are one time gimmick.
doubles and triple battles are in no way an improvement or perfecting anything.
the only real improvment there is the mixing up the Special and normal stats
As much as I love the genre roulette when progressing from DW1 to 4, the lack of consistency would've undoubtedly been confusing. That's not to also mention the extremely obtuse way certain entries are designed that can stop your playthrough in its tracks. Pokemon on the other hand is the same structure each time simply with extra stuff sprinkled on top AND I don't have to worry about retarded design choices that make me drop it.
650695424
Learn to write like a functional and civilized human being before talking to me, you literal moron.
Youre a moron arent you? Retard
The problem is that Ganker thinks digimon is a videogame franchise when it is not. Its a toy franchise that gets games and anime sometimes.
This, its a male focused spinoff of the Tamagotchi series
On one hand
>baby's first RPG, safe and easy intro to the world of vidya, simple and repetitive, if you played more than 2 games you have autism.
On the other
>Tamagochi's spergful formula that keeps changing every 5 years, it's a shadow of it's former self, the early games that the franchise is known for are disregarded because it keeps flipping shit around, it's doomed to forever be compared to pokemon.
In conclusion: both suck, one is simple and repetitive and the other is a mess, Realism has nothing to do with it and OP is a gay.
>jobs on her own reveal episode
>her
Was this show based or cringe
It's Digimon. The answer is yes.
Cringe. It tries to be a Digimon anime and a toku at the same time and doesn't do a good job at being either.
Toku sucks and is made for children
So are video games, yet here we are
Ah yes there are no games with gore and sex. They all appeal to kids
And there is for sure no toku with gore or sex either.
Correct
That's no longer accurate for pokemon. Now the lion cub would evolve into a humanoid with a mustache that is a barista.
I miss when Digimon was just a Tamagotchi that you could train up to fight. Then it became about them having temporary evolutions and lost all the pet aspects. The original Digimon World was great.
V-pets still get made at least. So that sediment isn't extinct just unpopular.
digimon pets fucking suck, they never move past the nostalgiabait models that are old tamagotchi reskins. even their attempt at a modern one was awful, they tried doing the tamagotchi watch thing and basically just made a shitty watch with a gif on it.
they need to copy the tamagotchi uni and put some different shit to do on there.
Blame the anime, Digimon Adventure was extremely popular, and they pretty much went all in on the anime from there till it started to lose popularity
? Most Digimon games have permanent evolutions, and the Digimon World games have v-pet aspects
No good video games.
Only Digimon World 1 is good
uhhh
actually that is pretty real
They're computer programs, they can be whatever they want. Pokemon are supposed to be biological creatures but some of them make no fucking sense. How does a sentient pokeball function as an organism?
>realism
>in pokemon
Nah. Final evolution is the cat standing up.
Digimon was ahead of its time. Pokemon designs aren't interesting anymore. In the future cyborgs will be much more prevalent, and that includes animals and pets. It is the next line in "evolution"
>expecting realism from vidya
Anon... this isn't your everyday retardation, this is... advanced retardation.
Isnt that why souls games are popular? Since theyre close to real HEMA fights or how medieval fights are done?
Huh, so Pokemon copied Tekken
probably with digimon is the series no longer embraces big male feet
its more realistic for a cat to evolve into a refrigerator than it is for a female to evolve into a male
>female to evolve into a male
It's not even an evolution, it's a transition. Double digit iq retard
Man, I don't know how you guys know so much about these franchises. I liked them as a kid too (6-8) and I literally don't remember anything about them. You played/watched them as kids, right?
>You played/watched them as kids, right?
Bitch I'm still into it.
I rewatched Adventure + Tamers last year and it was even more kino than I remembered
Childhood is liking digimon.
20s "Adulthood" is giving up childish things like digimon.
30s adulthood is learning all 1,400 digimon spending $3,000 on merch.
I’m hoping when I’m like 80 I can go to Pokemon tournaments and dab on kids with 50+ year old genies
>spending $3,000 on merch.
Amped metal greymon kit in December my dude.
this is such an absurdly reddit post. Do you collect funkopops aswell?
We are autistic 90s children addicted to the internet
Kek. I used to play Digimon World all day as a kid, but all I remember now is that my digimon always evolved into the shitty ones. I could never get the good evolutions.
Apparently its super easy to get numemon if you do shit like over train the monster, so trying to avoid getting it usually by training can mean you get it
>if you do shit like over train the monster
nah that just lowers happiness and causes your mon to die faster.
evos are determined by care mistakes, weight, and stats. there's also an optional requirement that varies from evo to evo (battles above or below a number, discipline above or below a certain threshhold, number of known techs, etc.)
>weight
Oh, well training lowers weight a lot IIRC so this might be why then
Digimon don't evolve, retard.
>THEY LE... DIGIVOLVE
stfu gay nerd, touch grass
Retard
>agumon shinka!
>translators note: shinka means evolution
Post Jellymon.
>realism
aside from the usual crap, digimon, digital monsters are... digital
they could just evolve into missing nos for all it matters
>lack of realism.
But Pokemon is far more nonsensical and unrealistic
>literal cockfighting until one of the creatures faints.
"lol it's ok because we can get them patched up at the pokemon center"
>te- I mean 14-year-olds roaming the land unsupervised despite the clear danger posed by supernatural creatures that can melt mountains, flood villages, etc.
>kids capturing said supernatural flora and fauna and wantonly, breeding them, and releasing them into the wild whenever
>kids going after criminal gangs (that the police can't bust but kids apparently can)
>said criminal gangs participating in cockfights instead of just shooting/gassing people or sicing their pokemon on humans
Pokemon's setting is too retarded and doesn't make sense. btw PMD was great until Sky.
whats wrong with sky?
genuinely asking.
I meant Sky was the last good entry. Everything onward went from bad to worse
The DX remake is a slap across the face to the original Rescue Team
Baaed shitposter.
pepper breath > baby flame
Realism has never mattered to Pokemon, nobody liked Charizard, Gyrados or Snorlax because they were "realistic"
Digimon suffers because the mechanics around digivolution obtuse and it's never had a game that made it all work, they could easily cash in on Gen X nostalgia if Bandai ever got their shit together and actually made a decent RPG
>digital world creatures
>realism
It makes sense for pokemon since they are like the animals of their world. Digimon are some kind of weird alien people from another universe.
Just shut up if you have no clue about digimon
>digital world is another universe
>digimon can talk to humans without problem
>a lot of digimon end up looking very human-like
Ok, I'm no expert, but please tell me where exactly I'm wrong then?
>digital world is another universe
First sentence and youre wrong already.
Is this about semantics? Whatever, my point still stands, the digiworld is in no way part of earth in the same way as it is for pokemon.
It's realistic if you go down the right path
>MetalMamemon into CresGarurumon
I feel personally attacked and offended.
Blastoise literally gets guns.
Do they shoot bullets?
No, but it shoots water from its forehead.
My bro Blastoise
GUNDRAMON
is there a hidden gun in the crotch?
Yeah, but it only comes out in a hard situation.
icwydt
Wtf is yamato gay?
>Matt + Tai
Someone forced their fanfiction into the wiki.
less a lack of realism, more "nobody asked for this"
pokemon delivers more consistently on the audience's expectations
>m-muh consistency
funny because what you call "consistency" is decried by your fellow fans as unoriginal rehashes
Tokyo Game Show Digimon Reveal bros... this is our time...
Digimon is better because 99% of the time there is a reasonable chain of evolutions but you also get like 600 other choices in case you want to branch out.
Digimon did what Pokemon should have done years ago, variants. No one gives a shit about regional Pidgey #28 but people go crazy over another variant of Charizard. All Pokemon should have some form of Eeveeism.
The thing that Pokemon did that Digimon should have followed was have specific lines and not have your cool birdmon randomly turn into a literal shitmon.
>Digimon did what Pokemon should have done years ago, variants
Literally no one wants endless recolors. Especially not in the way digimon does it where they're exact recolors.
Ay yo get fucked. I won't have people talking shit about my Gotsumon > Icemon > Meteormon line. Digimon's cardinal sin is not giving our boy Gotsumon a mega evolution which is just another recolor.
Okay, gotsumon is the one exception due to the dedication.
Works for me. He's the only one I care about.
How many recolor digimon were made in the last decade? Most variant digimons are different models to the base species.
>Literally no one wants endless recolors.
Did I say that? Besides they're already doing it with reginal forms, which is what I am talking about, and people eat that shit up so no not literally no one wants endless recolors.
>Did I say that?
Yes, that's literally what digimon fucking does or are you going to try and argue that black wargreymon changes more than the color.
No but Wargreymon X, Gaiomon, and Blitzgreymon do.
say that yo shiny hunters, also Pokemon is doing variants even more than Digimon ever did
>say that yo shiny hunters,
I don't think you understand. Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex. They're all the exact same pokemon with a different color.
Omegamon zwart, imperialdramon black, gold guardramon, rapidmon armor, chaos Dukemon, Snow Agumon, black Agumon, kuzuhamon, Alraumon, black Garurumon, black Gaogamon, ghoulmon black, muchomon, tsukaimon, geremon, mud frigimon, gigadramon, red vegimon,gold v-dramon, psychemon, solarmon, clear Agumon, piddomon, Omegamon Alter B
They're all the same as their originals.
No design variation, just recolors
>also Pokemon is doing variants even more than Digimon ever did
No.
Not at all. If you believe this you don't know shit about digimon.
>No design variation, just recolors
I don't want to go over each one, but that's wrong for some of the ones you listed
>but that's wrong for some of the ones you listed
It's not, you made the mistake of thinking I listed something like alter B as a variant of regular Omega and not Alter S.
It is.
And yes, Alter-B is one of them, go look again.
>Alter-B is one of them
It's not. Don't make a claim if you don't know what you're talking about.
But this is the part where you grasp and say
>but the smoke.
Look at you own image you blind moron.
your*
Oh and they're all considered their own digimon unlike shinies.
>Shiny pokemon don't take up a new space in the pokedex
Digimon does not have a numbered dex in which space can be "taken up" by recolors. Make as many variants as you want, who cares.
>Digimon does not have a numbered dex in which space can be "taken up" by recolors
It does.
Even the vpets have compendiums.
No. They do not have fixed number designations like Pokémon. There are lists of Digimon.
>They do not have fixed number designations like Pokémon.
Yes, yes they do.
Each game has a compendium anon, they are numbered in each game.
In next order Agumon is 023, black Agumon is 45, Snow Agumon is 46.
It's a monster tamer, they're all like that.
>In next order
R E T A R D
Okay, then cyber sleuth
Agumon is 18
Black is 19
We are not talking about individual games, you SPED.
He thinks you're referring to it in general like Pokemon's Nat dex and not game by game.
Basically these people have neve touched a digimon game.
I started the fucking topic, you ignorant tool. I am talking about Digimon as a franchise. The existence of recolor digimon does not "take up space" because there is no space to take up.
>I started the fucking topic
Yeah, and you fucked up because you said a fucking monster tamer didn't have a compendium.
Digimon has a massive one in the reference book, they're not numbered but it's still a compendium where recolors have their own entries.
https://digimon.net/reference_en/detail.php?directory_name=growmon_orange
https://digimon.net/reference_en/detail.php?directory_name=growmon
The whole point the other anon was making is that unlike pokemon exact recolors aren't counted as their own mon, hell regional variants aren't either a galarian zigzagoon and a regular zigzagoon are both 31.
You fucked up.
>said a fucking monster tamer didn't have a compendium
1. Digimon is not a "monster tamer" it's first and foremost a vpet franchise and related media
2. No I most certainly did not. I said Digimon, as a franchise, does not have a numbered dex. This is factually correct. The Digimon Reference book does not have numeric designations for Digimon.
When you find out you were wrong about something, at least have the decency to go "oops I misunderstood" instead of trying to fucking rewrite history when it is right there for everyone to see.
>Digimon is not a "monster tamer"
Stopped reading here. It's a vpet series you dumbass.
You don't tame pets, you illiterate mongoloid, they are already tame from birth.
Raising them IS taming them you moron.
By definition, no, it is not.
>tame
>verb
>to reduce from a wild to a domestic state.
Pets are domesticated to begin with and thus do not need to be tamed.
You ESLs are such fucking morons.
>tame
>adjective
>not wild or dangerous, either naturally or because of training or long involvement with humans
>tame
>verb
>to control something dangerous or powerful
>tame
>adjective (US)
>not wild or fierce, either naturally or because of training or long involvement with humans
In what way do you believe the verb definition you just listed contradicts the definition I posted?
Why did you bother posting adjective definitions when we are not talking about the adjective form of the word tame?
>I said Digimon, as a franchise, does not have a numbered dex
NTA but no one said anything about numbers until you did.
This post basically sparked the whole thing and he's just saying that variants are counted as the same mon in pokemon while they aren't in digimon.
You pulled out the numbers cope
Even though numbers didn't matter and then you were connected on that matter regarding individual games.
You're wrong on all accounts.
>no one said anything about numbers until you did
Yes retard, I started the conversation. Anon A complains about recolors taking up space
Anon B (me) points out that there is no "space" to take up, because it isn't as if they are part of a numbered dex.
How is this hard to comprehend?
>then you were connected on that matter regarding individual games.
What ESL babble is this?
And no, as you can see from my first post, I said "Digimon", as in the franchise as a whole.
Listing individual games where they are numbered is a meaningless gotcha, because it is not the topic of conversation.
>Anon A complains about recolors taking up space
Anon, you're seeing it like a rosterfag. It's not a space as in
>oh no my favorite didn't get in because they had limited slots!
It's a space as in entry.
>Anon B (me) points out that there is no "space" to take up, because it isn't as if they are part of a numbered dex.
Which doesn't matter because no one was talking about numbers until you brought it up
>How is this hard to comprehend?
You're the one getting everything wrong here.
>What ESL babble is this?
It's called a typo. If you understood English you would understand what was said.
>Listing individual games where they are numbered is a meaningless gotcha, because it is not the topic of conversation.
It's hardly meaningless when you made the claim that digimon never had a compendium.
>It's a space as in entry.
Utter gibberish. What space is being taken up? You cannot answer this.
>Which doesn't matter because no one was talking about numbers until you brought it up
Right. I started the conversation. That's how time works.
>You're the one getting everything wrong here.
Not one single thing. You are making me more right with every post.
>If you understood English you would understand what was said.
>Just guess what I meant bro
No.
>you made the claim that digimon never had a compendium.
Demonstrably false.
Are we going to just keep going in circles now where I prove you wrong and you ignore reality?
>What space is being taken up?
Anon, this isn't a rosterfag thing. There is no finite space. A space just means entry.
Digimon variants have separate entries
Pokemon variants do not.
This is a very simple concept and I have no idea why you're struggling to understand.
> I started the conversation
Yes, you started the conversation but you didn't start this topic of digimon taking up separate spaces.
>You are making me more right with every post.
If you have to call yourself right without actually trying to show how in a way that doesn't disregard the entire conversation then you aren't.
>No
It's literally just two letters. It auto corrected corrected to connected. There's no guessing involved if you're fluent in the language.
>Demonstrably false
>Digimon does not have a numbered dex
The reference book doesn't have numbers but the games and vpets do.
Because you brought up numbers everyone is going to assume you're talking about them.
Do you understand
Of course you don't, who am I kidding.
>There is no finite space
Which is precisely what my argument was, ding dong.
>A space just means entry.
Again, that's gibberish. Additionally, we are not talking about "a space", we are talking about "taking up space", as per the words of the first poster I replied to.
>without actually trying to show how
I have repeatedly proved it. Look at the conversation, you will see that not a single thing I have said is incorrect. Every thing you and others claim was incorrect was something I factually did not say. You have no argument.
>corrected
Corrected also doesn't make sense because I was not corrected on anything, because nothing I said was incorrect.
>The reference book doesn't have numbers but the games and vpets do.
God you are dense. I was never, at any point talking about individual games or entries in the franchise. Bringing them up is irrelevant. Digimon as a franchise does not have a numbering system for individual Digimon. This is what I said from the beginning. This is, was, and always will be 100% correct and factual no matter how much you try to move the goal posts.
You cannot prove me wrong because I am not wrong. I know you want to be right too some day, but today just isn't that day, sorry.
thats just a compilation of digimon, its not a dex
bulbasaur is #1
always will be number #1
ivysaur is #2
always will be #2
sure, they have regional dex's as well, but there is a definite numbering and each pokemon has its assigned number
this is not the case AT ALL with digimon.
Would be better if the top middle one is an adult cat
Thats an adult cat
I always thought Medabots was cooler premise, let kids build robots that shoot each other with live ammunition is a metal as fuck concept.
Its a shame Medabots never really picked up in the west. It was cool. Rokusho is a chad.
It doesn't translate into anything collectible.
It would be if they weren't all tiny.
Truem, Digimon always was the bad knockoff
It may have come after but digimon has better merch.
nu-pokemon is so gay
Hmm, so Pocket MONSTERS become Pocket MONSTERS. Interesting.
>KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Disregarded and hidden
nobody even knows the names of regions past gen2 since they are irrelevant
>i'm ignorant therefore the world is ignorant
Kys kanto moron
True, I only recall Hoenn because hoenmorons rolls off the tongue.
it always really annoyed me that the great ape transformations where completely dropped after the saiyan saga. GT leaning back into the monkey aspect was one of the only redeeming things about it
So, how was Survive, haha.....did it save Digimon?
Good enough. As a VN in modern gaming, it's one of the best ever made.
i dont care
i want to raise my pets and turn them into hot virgin monster girls that I can fuck
> Dozens of humanoid FemDigimon
> Lopmon
Digimon don't have sex though since they don't reproduce. Also you're a groomer.
>Also you're a groomer.
Yes, it's perfectly natural when men do it to young girls.
It's why it's called Bride & GROOM.
whats sick is men doing it to boys.
>Lucemon
>That's a boy
>The problem with digimon
lol
lmao
Digimon is doing great right now, better than TPCI pissing in their fans faces and greeding the fuck out.
No single misstep in Digimon's awkward history has been worse than how Pokémon is now being handled.
>pokemon
>realistic
moron pick one
I've never really thought about this as a kid, but I think I like it. Also, he's the closest thing you can get to a Tai.
She belongs with TK
Apparently she doesn't in whatever bullshit came out after I stopped watching as a kid but SHE BELONGS WITH TK
For me, it's the branching evolutions being TOO extensive
I will never understand this brainlet opinion. You don't have to memorize what can evolve into what, and in fact there are no real rules. Why would it be a problem if Digimon A can evolve into something that looks very different? Why does it matter?
I sometimes forget how popular Digimon is. The TCG dragged even more people back in.
Just think, somewhere out there, there's a reality where Monster Rancher got the popularity Pokémon received.
Haha no there's not.
sex with pixie
Maybe they'd bring back more of 2's roster (not including the horse girl game)
Man that realities Kaiju Rancher must be fucking bitchin'.
no shame, what was your favorite song
Not the same serie but I have listened to this track so many times
'Strange'
But if you mean pop songs, 'The Impression That I Get'.
It bugs me to no end that we've never gotten a Reel Big Fish or MxPx cover of Butterfly.
Hey Digimon
I'm Going Digital
The Digi-Rap
digimon aren't biological creatures, they're digital information. They "evolve" by taking scraps of code they've absorbed from fighting and incorporating the functions into their pre-existing code.
The closest analogue I can think of is the nanites created by the HK crime boss in the sci-fi novel The Diamond Age.
Yet theyre sentient and needs things just like a real animal.
Yeah they have souls and needs like biological monsters but don't have to worry about stuff like death and decaying because they're digital.
>Yeah they have souls
Proof?
Digicores are effectively their souls.
They do die of old age and injury, but they are normally reborn.
THEY LITERALLY MADE A CANDY APPLE AND A FUCKING SUSPENSION BRIDGE POKEMON
And?
glass house, gay
i don't give a shit about either franchise's later entries, but they both got retarded designs as time went on
Wow you have bad taste
Honey, sweetie, precious child, every generation of both franchises has absolute chud gay shit in it. Gen 1 of Pokemon, the worshiped and revered gen that can do no wrong, had Magmar, Jynx, Mr. Mime, Exeggute, Exeggutor, Dragonite, and Porygon. Digimon started out with things like Nanomon, a ball with a goatee and sunglasses and musclebuilder arms and legs, a sentient pile of shit with a mouse riding it, and Oscar the Grouch with a rocket launcher that fired its own shit. Digimon is obsessed with shit.
>Nanomon
My dude, this lad is Nano.
You mean Nani. Also bad example, Nani is a Tamagotchi reference.
Forgot my pic
So? They're monsters.
I mean, digimon has a potato digimon.
More than one in fact.
DIJ
DIJ
DIJ
DIGIMON
do-do-do, do do-do do, do-do do do-do-do do
do-do-do, do do-do do, do-do do do-do-do do
https://vocaroo.com/1VIaaRLku2I3
Digimon has better designs
Pokémon had a higher proportion of good to bad designs, but I have always found Digimon designs more fun and interesting.
But nowadays, new Pokémon are all retarded and we have been getting nothing but quality with Digimon designs lately.
I fucking wish Pokemon sticked with "beasts, but bigger" in final evo instead of furfags
Weird how it's okay for every other monster franchise to have humanoid monsters, but everyone loses their damn fool minds when Pokemon has them, especially when it's had them since the very start and no one threw tantrums about it then.
>implying
Some of the most common complaints about Digimon designs are the knights and humans in costumes.
Which is retarded as shit, Digimon are created from human-made data, they're going to be or incorporate things like human data and armor data. The people who whine are the ones who think the only acceptable monsters are eldritch shit or animal-men.
Preaching to the choir. As long as the design is interesting/clever/unique and pleasing to the eye, I don't care what the basis is.
Does come from Pokemon fans who are just mocking or are disproving digimon for being unlike Pokemon. When it comes to any other thing that has a roster of monsters as a selling point a human isn't shunned. Dragon Quest, Ultraman, SMT all of them get away wit people mons.
the above pic only really applies for like gen 1/2 and MAYBE 3 and 4
>could take out god if he existed
He does exist in Digimon. His name is Yggdrasill.
Yggdrasil is the God of the digital world, that is true. But there are multiple Yggdrasil, just as there are multiple digital worlds.
And sometimes they wage war on each other, fun stuff.
*ftfy
I love how a few Starters have humanoid final evolutions and everyone shits their dicks off claiming all Pokemon do it.
>fridge with a minigun
I don't get it
Out of curiosity, when does the wider Digimon fandom consider "nu-digimon" to start? Pokemon fans usually consider gen 5 or 6 to be the start and 7 when it truly went to shit, at least from what I've seen.
There are lots of different eras with differing design philosophies, such as the X-Antibody Digimon ("let's have artists who never worked on Digimon before reinterpret existing designs") or Applimon ("Digimon but smartphone apps"). Those two that I've named are particularly divisive. In recent years, designs have moved back to what you might call the "classic" monstrous style, with many new creatures feeling like they could've easily fit in with stuff from the older V-Pets on release.
ok but which digimon game should I start with
Either one of the v-pets like pic related or Digimon World 1.
Digimon World 2 or Digimon Cybersleuth would be my pics.
>Repeated empty maps
>Being trained as a Sleuth but only end up becoming an errant boy/girl
>Hot chick endlessly blue-balls you
>Friend is too retarded to realize that his crush is being brainwashed, hell everyone there is too retarded to realize that people are being brainwashed despite acting like a cartoon version of being brainwashed
>Most characters are useless
>Meta is to have 3 platinum shits in your main squad
>Unskippable combat cutscenes
The only thing I can give them credit is for making an old man be the coolest character
>Being trained as a sleuth means ending up becoming an errant boy/girl*
Others have been in your place before, and they get immediately overwhelmed by the complexity and retardation of most of the games:
The only game that's playable for someone new to the franchise is Cyber Sleuth.
lol. lmao. OP was frozen in a glacier for 20 years, right?
Isn't it weird there are completely adult humanoid looking digimon like Angemon, and there are games where you play as a little kid and have to be the one taking care of them like a pet?
>This guy needs your help to go potty. Go wipe.
What's wrong with that?
>have a friend with the last name Baluchi
Should I give him my Baluchimon card?
Only after you've given him your V-card
>there are people in the year of our lord 2023 who still defend pokemon
You could take any random monster themed steam or hell even itch.io shoveware and it would be better than that dogshit franchise.
I know right. It's crazy so many people defending Pokemon even after how much the series has been degraded.
Dilate
>Pokémon bootlicker calling anyone else a chud
fucking lol
Dont care. Fuck off chud. Dilate and 41% yourself
Are you that AIfag who was calling everyone a chud yesterday?
Why do you keep posting that outdated image? Here's the updated one.
Stuff like Angemon came first if anything.
Yours is several decades out of date too.
The Pokemon one needs to be changed to
>87.5% male
I only play digomon games where i can get Lilithmon.
The problem with digimon is pic related.
I just want a game where I can use my new favorite digimon evo line
I hate having options because options make me think and thinking makes my brain hurt >:(
>implying you have a brain
Shut the FUCK up, pokecuck.
KINOOOOO
>an inhaler evolves into a bridge
how realistic from pokemon
Don't forget that the previous evolution stage is a toilet dragon that can not-mega evolve into a skyscraper.
>toilet dragon
What kind of fucked up third world toilet do you have?
Yes, one of the dumbest looking pokemon lines they've ever made no doubt
>Kaiju+bridge+railcannon
BASED
Also a staple remover when it stands up
its got a lot of levels
>lets just throw a bunch of shit together!
pokemon more like pokeslop
Cute asian girl!
No its their cyberslutness and lack of grounded evolution system also being labelled as the vegeta of pokemon
This. They need a ball that shoot laser that shrinks the monster to put them into a ball. I'm still impressed that Bill Gates invented this technology in real world, and Pokemon used it as inspiration to make their universe more realistic and believable.
wow
The problem with digimon was being a gay knock off. I never fell for them even as a kid.
Of Tamagochi
How can it be a Tamagotchi knock-off if both are made by Bandai. Are you retarded?
It began as Digimon Virtual Pets, basically Tamagotchi for boys before the anime was even a thing.
So yes, a Tamagotchi knock-off for boys.
Digimon franchise was always superior
Nice Cybersluts
>Hop in NOW my cute little 14 year old boy
What did she mean by this?
God I fucking love the police officer
Goddess
>Hot chick endlessly blue-balls you
That's the best part
One more for the collage
CUTE
Imagine hugging her.
No. Digimon's problem is its lack of consistency.
Adventure is an "Isekai"
Adventure 2 is also an "Isekai"
But Tamers is some sort of card game that turns into a psychological horror
Then Frontier is Super Sentai
Then Savers is a Buddy Cop
Then Xros Wars/Hunters who Leap Through Time is shit
Then Appmon was something entirely different (didn't watch)
Then Colon went back to being an "isekai"
Then Ghost Game is a Gegege reskin/folklore tales.
And it also extends to the games
Digimon World 1 is a pet sim
World 2 is a dungeon crawler
World 3 is a standard JRPG
World 4 is a Diablo Clone
Then Next Order went back to being a petsim.
You never know what to expect when you're getting into Digimon, which is why people have widely different opinions of each entry.
>Then Xros Wars/Hunters who Leap Through Time is shit
The sign that someone's opinion is worthless.
>I fap to Lilithmon so that means the show is good!
nope.
>implying lilithmon is the best part
You don't even like digimon do you, you just fap to the waifus.
>You don't even like digimon do you
Considering that the only entry I didn't watch was Appmon, I guess you're right.
I'll never understand why people disliked Xros. Part of me wants to blame it on the dub.
It was probably too intense for them
The game producer said a few years ago that they've settled for 2 main formulas: CS and Digimon World, with the occasional spon-off like Survive.
That said, I find it weird that you neglected to mention the massive branding fuckup in the West during the DS era, where they released all games under the "World" subtitle.
Also Digital Card Battle is fun.
So it's kind of the Sonic to Pokemon's Mario?
Are you fucking dense? Both of those are about as realistic as each other
HELL YEAH A COOL DIGIBUDDY BEST FRIENDS FOR LIFE
>it dies in a week
>>it dies in a week
not if you feed your digibro the right food :^)
In Digimon I always dislike how so many of the finals evolutions were just humans in suits of armor. But do you know what's worse than that? Modern pokemon where final evolutions are just a gay in a fur suit.
>In Digimon I always dislike how so many of the finals evolutions were just humans in suits of armor
I can't disagree with this sentiment, but I do enjoy some of the armored human designs. I just wish there was a better balance of monsters an dudes-in-armor at the high end.