The return of 30 FPS console games is inevitable

BUT THE POWER OF THE SSD HOW COULD THEY DO THIS?
THEY PROMISED ME 4K120FPS!!!
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN CONSOLEBROS?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder that ps3 promised 120fps

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it technically does 180fps in gt if you wire 3 of them together, but it only works in that game and that game alone lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sauce? never heard of this before and can't find anything through some cursory googling

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Never heard of that but you can absolutely connect 3 ps3s with 3 copies of gran turismo together for multi-monitor support.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sony went full retard with the PS3, its astounding they were able to recover from that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't remember this at all, I thought Sony was the one pushing the "30fps is all you need and all your eyes can detect" bullshit during that gen.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm 100% sure they promised 1080p/60fps at E3 back in 2006 or 2007 and then most of the games ran at 900p/25-ish fps
        7th gen was singlehandedly the worst in every single aspect

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like DmC console ver?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          most of them ran sub 720p

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't remember this at all, I thought Sony was the one pushing the "30fps is all you need and all your eyes can detect" bullshit during that gen.

      I'm 100% sure they promised 1080p/60fps at E3 back in 2006 or 2007 and then most of the games ran at 900p/25-ish fps
      7th gen was singlehandedly the worst in every single aspect

      I don't remember that 120 FPS claim, though I believe some journofuck might have written that to shill it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Friendly reminder that ps3 promised 120fps

      And it totally can, if you sacrifice detail.

      Framerate is not something built in the hardware. It's an output.

      Even a brand new gaming PC with a can struggle to deliver 60 fps if the game is bloated or poorly coded or just ahead of it's time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he STILL believes in the power of tge cell meme
        lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Friendly reminder the Ps5 box has a big ass *8K* logo on it lmao. Surreal shit

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so, cucksoles are still holding back the vidya industry, eh?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Always have been.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hilarious that you think the majority of PC players have hardware that's better than consoles.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        10 year old GPUs are better than current gen consoles

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          guess that means people are using 11 year old GPUs then

          COPE

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >cope

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >seething this much he has an image saved for when he needs to defend his choice of platform

              holy fucking cope lmao

              Given most games have multiple graphical presets to choose from on PC, I'd say that they do have better hardware to run games. Oh wait, I have to work within the framework of your console moron logic... shit, guess I lose. They must choose console moron settings or I lose the debate.

              ooops, another shit cope

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cope

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >console vs pc.png
                >he has his little gay folder ready for these threads

                yep, cringe and cope

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yep, cringe and cope

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hahaha who is this incel

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One of the IGN main "writers" who gets all kinds of interviewing jobs out of nepotism.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember watching IGN years ago when he was a main face at the company and thinking he was the most insufferable person I'd have ever seen. So glad this dude disappeared.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is always my favorite “argument” from console retards. Imagine being under 50 and you still don’t fucking know how computers work. The easiest self own is saying PC is hard to use, all you’re saying is that you’re a retard.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this, I'm a fucking retarded shitskin subhuman and even I understood how to build a PC

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, it depends on the dev. Some devs, like Ubisoft, are fucking stupid as hell, and necessitate a stupid amount of troubleshooting on PC. I know my way around a computer, so it's usually twenty minutes of Googling to find out where they put their config files, or whatever, but you're right in that most people are too goddamned stupid. They see a PC and think it's an infinitely-complicated machine, when really it's just LEGOs. Actually it's even simpler than LEGO, because every part is made-to-fit.

                That said, there is no, and I mean NO, reason a modern game should EVER run below 60fps at at least 1440p. My potato of a PC can do that, and it's over 6 fucking years old because I'm poor. The only way--and unfortunately this will likely be the case--is if devs focus on completely unnecessary and demanding visual flourishes. "Every single follicle of hair is dynamically and perfectly simulated, including growth, and having individual strands get pulled out" levels of unnecessary.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's great because the majority of the time it just werks, the majority of the remainder you can solve the problem by bumping a setting or two down or up, and the rest of the time some dude has an easy to follow guide that takes less than 5 mins and you're problem is solved, all for a better experience and a exponentially expanded library of games to play.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >another pic from the folder

                I've never seen this level of persisten cope before

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So anally ravaged he can't type anymore
                lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >guys I'm LITERALLY henry cavill

                pffffft OH NO NO NO hahahaha

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I was a consolefag I'd turn into him considering how bad it is nowadays.

                >A PC that outperforms costs double
                sure, even though that's stretching it considering current prices
                consoles are still sold at a loss regardless but I very much doubt they can keep up anymore if they want to keep the same price range

                >consoles are still sold at a loss
                Hasn't been true since 7th Gen

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hasn't been true since 7th Gen
                Microsoft just said they lose $200 on every Xbox Series sold

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Series X
                Series S is sold at a profit and so is the PS5

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >MLP hat

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't have a single pic because he's on a phone or console typing up this shit
                pfffft hahaha

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >consolefags are retarded
                we know

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's right but pckeks endlessly gaslight you that everything justwerks despite steam having a support forum with thousands of "it's not working" threads for every game and also despite having an entire wiki dedicated to getting games running. The objective truth about PC superior performance at both money and time cost vs consoles where there's a quarter of the money cost and no time cost for inferior performance

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most of the "it's not working" cope comes from people who

                >are trying to run mods
                >are trying to run the game in Linux
                >have modded their OS in some way that breaks the game
                >are using an outdated OS like Windows 7
                >are trying to run the game on hardware below minimum spec

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats what I have noticed too. As long as you install all of the Microsoft VC and C++ Runtimes and other prerequisites, stuff pretty much just works. People seem to forget, but down at the OS Kernel level the Xbox is pretty much running regular Windows. As long as everything is in order and properly running 99% of games just work out of the box

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                /pol/fags are retarded. Stop bring the culture wars into everything. No one gives a shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this is how NVdigolems and AMDsisters see themselves

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >think that changing armor and stats was the coolest thing ever growing up playing shit like morrowind and diablo 2
              >now an extremely tiring and overused feature forced in every single game that never needed it
              I hate this industry

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >now an extremely tiring and overused feature forced in every single game that never needed it
                Games are about making interesting decisions
                Character customisation and RPG systems are good when they create interesting decisions
                They're not good when they just create busywork replacing Item with Item+1 to give the feeling of vertical progression
                Creating Item+1 is infinitely easier than designing gameplay systems which offer interesting decisions and so every low effort checklist 'RPG mechanics' game just gives you a character sheet where you make the numbers bigger

                Players have to recognise the difference so that they complain about the right things, the problem isn't that the game allows customisation, the problem is that the customisation is empty and doesn't provide meaningful choices. (Pictured: A bad example)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Xenoblade Chronicals 1
              >Modern.
              Dude. That's a Wii game. They didn't change how the UI looks or interacts in the remake.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Switch remake did slightly modernize the UI.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fuck I know my eyes are bad but why is this so blurry.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                motion blur

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Screenshot of a terrible quality youtube video from 2010.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Still the same "character in the middle of the screen you play dress-up with" UI that's been there since 2010.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I updated the chart

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                v2

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, OOT doesn't fit the bill.

                Rotating box with things distributed in various spots instead of a basic grid. Just because the item screen is laid out neatly doesn't make it souless.

                If anything, it just shows where everyone else fucked up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How doesn't it? The rotating box is just the other tabs on any of the other UIs.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because it fucking rotates anon. A rotating menu in an early 3D game. It's got pazaz

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Minor aesthetic choice. Same exact function.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Said majority also plays games at 60 FPS so they're smarter than the average consolefag.
        They also have games to play unlike consolefags

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are fucking stupid holy hell
        PC players can run stuff better with less hardware because sony is awful at creating their own shit without breaking apart

        Hell PC has LESS input lag than Playstation in almost every single console post ps3 an its running an entre fucking OS behind the vidya inputs

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everything you said is wrong, you are one huge idiot hahaha

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Given most games have multiple graphical presets to choose from on PC, I'd say that they do have better hardware to run games. Oh wait, I have to work within the framework of your console moron logic... shit, guess I lose. They must choose console moron settings or I lose the debate.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen pre-build PCs and fucking laptops that have better tech then any of the consoles.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pc costs 4 times as much
        considering there's no market for a console worth 2k this is the result

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >4 times
          Consoles are 400 to 500 fucking dollars nowadays
          A PC that outperforms costs double

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A PC that outperforms costs double
            sure, even though that's stretching it considering current prices
            consoles are still sold at a loss regardless but I very much doubt they can keep up anymore if they want to keep the same price range

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        uh, yes?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          idk what to think about this, has to be more to it, I have a GTX 1080 and just as an example ER runs (very slightly) better on consoles than my PC (I got a 3070 coming tomorrow though), it's about 5 more FPS at 4k, 1440p is parity.

          Can chalk it up to bad optimization (especially for ER) but usually you'll gain a rough baseline of comparison between PC and console specs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As much as I like Gamer Nexus, something clearly went wrong here.
          The DMC5 port is probably terrible.
          While on PC it's amazing, I can run the game at 4K HDR with the 1060

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post above, but I think that shittier optimized titles on PC are a better frame of reference.

            Elden Ring for example is comparable on consoles to my GTX 1080 at 1440p and 4k, about 5 FPS higher on them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I havent seen 30 FPS on PCs in 25 years. And i never had top shelf hardware.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can see it right now if you want to try emulating some shitch games lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I play in 4k graphics maxed out without DLSS. And I get more than 60fps.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I’m happy for you but that’s not the case for most gamers. 90% of PC gamers are Chinese people, europoors, and 3rd worlders using literal toastings.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even if your pc is slower than a console, you still can choose to lower the settings until reaching 60 or more fps
        You only have choices on consoles if you're given em

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The funny thing is that people with old hardware can sacrifice graphical quality for better gameplay at higher FPS. On consoles you don't have that choice because a guy in a suit decided that the game needs to look good on screenshots and gameplay doesn't matter.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, as long as devs don't cap framerates on PC ports. If you think about it, consoles targeting 30fps is a good thing for us since it means games can target better graphics and more powerful PCs can still push double or triple the console framerate. Whereas if the same console game targets 60fps+ the graphics will be less detailed which also carries over to the PC port with no real upside unless the devs take the time to make PC graphics better, which they often don't.

        cute cope, cucksolechuds

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, as long as devs don't cap framerates on PC ports. If you think about it, consoles targeting 30fps is a good thing for us since it means games can target better graphics and more powerful PCs can still push double or triple the console framerate. Whereas if the same console game targets 60fps+ the graphics will be less detailed which also carries over to the PC port with no real upside unless the devs take the time to make PC graphics better, which they often don't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's true, and that's the reason many 7th Gen games still look better than their 8th and 9th Gen counterparts.
        Halo Reach performed like absolute fucking ass for example, but still looks great with pretty high res textures and high polygon count with plenty of physics objects flying all over the place.

        Meanwhile the game runs like absolute ass for the console it was made for, though everyone knows Bungie were playing it at 60 on the computers they used to make it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same as it ever was

    • 4 weeks ago
      Maciek

      Always were and always will be.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They also promised 8K, it says so on the actual box.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $65 for a fucking box? lmao

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oldest ebay scam in the book

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >scam
          it says empty box in the title.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yea, but most people arent looking for the box and wont notice. They are relying on you not reading.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Either way it's not a scam. They gave you all the information upfront. Ignorance is not a valid excuse.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ok sorry to point out your scam

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a scam

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if the title explicitly says "no console only box" you can't complain

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And then the item description is the features of the system itself. The idea is it looks like the listing for a console. The word box in the title is how they get away with it.

                But go ahead and keep thinking that anyone would seriously be looking for a PS5 box.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >
                >But go ahead and keep thinking that anyone would seriously be looking for a PS5 box.
                you underestimate hypebeasts, if something gives you clout some retard is going to buy it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With a genuine box they can run this scam: Walk to my store, say "I need return this ps5 but I lost the receipt".
        I re-check a lot of returns sent to my department by the front desk, because the average retail worker don't know how to check shit properly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $65 for a fucking box? lmao

      >snoys will buy cardboard for $70
      kek how the tables have turned

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >meanwhile nintendoids pay hundreds of dollars for cardboard directly from Nintendo and praise them for it
        It's okay when Nintendo does it though!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, his joke was that it's not OK when anyone does it. Stop being so defensive and ignorant.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cardbox Nintendo was a massive flop.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the matter anon? The system menu supports crisp 8k text in 4:2:0 chroma! That's enough to stick it on the box.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually one game, only one game, runs at 8k.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Touryst?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >8k 60fps blockgraphics
          wowie!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Touryst is really only impressive on the Switch. Fucking pointless anywhere else given its just just blockshit.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >return
    they left?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Consoles should cheat and make up fake frames like PC does with DLSS.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am a huge retard.

      Pc still renders most of the frame. Dlss fills in the pixels of the image when it gets resized to a larger resolution

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They already do by hooking them up to TV with >130Hz which then syncs (decreases) its frequency with the shitty console, so the picture looks smooth.
      Btw yes you're a retard for getting a 244Hz display, meaning your PC must then render more frames in order to look smooth, result looking same to your eye as if you were at 60fps on a 60Hz display.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >something has to give
    Give up graphics for gameplay.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >develop game with castrated graphics due to Series S
    >force 4K and ray tracing on base consoles to match the framerate
    That will be $69.99 + tip

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why are snoys obsessed about Series S, when PS5 has slower CPU clocks than Series S?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Gotham Knights
        As usual, Xmorons lower themselves to Snoy tier retarded antics.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the prime and most recent example of 30 fps becoming a norm for 9th gen consoles
          Also the CPU is clear bottleneck even on PC, moronino

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So Series S is more powerful than Series X? And are you aware this game can reach 900p on Series S? lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Schizophrenic illiterate retard.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no u

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >PS5 has slower CPU clocks than Series S?
        That's false. It does 3.6 GHz and 3.4 GHz on all cores. PS5 does 3.5GHz on all cores. It's the same shitty Zen 2 CPU based on a gimped R7 3700

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >PS5 does 3.5GHz on all cores.
          In the "potato graphics" performance profile. PS5 has variable performance profiles.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why would it be clocked lower on higher profiles
            are you retarded? it just has cool n' quiet turned on, just like every single PC CPU from the last 2 decades

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why would it be clocked lower on higher profiles
              It's an APU, not CPU and GPU, it's a single chip doing both things.
              PS5 allows the devs to choose whether to prioritize CPU usage or GPU usage.
              Why do you think Sony marketed PS5 always saying "up to" when talking about frequencies?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    30 is fine as long as it's locked
    I still think most devs worth a damn will still give us options
    40fps support is starting to become more common as well as more 120hz displays are being the norm
    There's not enough evidence to say 30 is going to be the norm just because the shitty batman team and some indie game with rats can't hit 60

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >30 is fine as long as it's locked
      The absolute state

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is. I would rather have a game that’s locked at 30 instead of one that tries to maintain 60 but dips at times.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How about neither you sad fuck?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Diversity in video game hiring is a strength, just as 30fps is.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-gotham-knights-is-a-poor-effort-suffering-from-a-range-of-technical-issues
    Euro gamer is one of most clickbaity journalist sights out there. One article they are claiming 30fps is inevitable. The next they are claiming Gotham Knight Engine is just absolute trash and doesn't represent how next gen games will be.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing they said contradicts each other.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Games are already getting CPU limited
    It is what it is

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    consoletrannies holding back the industry once more, nothing new

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >console
    and I'm supposed to give a shit why?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Consoles could do 60+ FPS if they were allowed to change settings. No idea why devs still don’t allow that, given that consoles are (basically) just a PC with a shit OS at this point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > No idea why devs still don’t allow that,
      Shit devs. Cyberchud, Ubishit games, Battlefield all allow you to change _some_ settings to either opt for FPS or graphics. Other devs are just lazy fucks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Devs would be fucking stupid, retarded, and ought to be gassed, if they don't continue to implement Quality and Performance modes. It's the best thing for consoles, short of implementing adjustable settings a la PC.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The point is that devs will inevitably target 30 fps as the base for 9th gen consoles, whether it's CPU, GPU or both.
      Powerful CPUs on consoles only mean that they will only have to do the bare minimum to make it run on consoles. 3600 struggles with Gotham Knights.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never thought I'd see the day graphics would start setting gaming back 20 years.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When was the last time a video game had any kind of ambition?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The vast majority of games that I purchase, play and enjoy could probably be run on integrated graphics from last gen.

    Hardware isn't holding back vidya. If anything the better the hardware gets, the worse things become

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The issue isn't better hardware, the issue is the amount of retards that populate the medium these days.
      There are good games that take advantage of the hardware, but most that do will be AAA trash with the bare minimum of effort put into the gameplay and presentation.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >console limitations holding industry back

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just wait until they completely understand how to utilize the ssd and superior IO system.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you ever buy a console nowadays

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Windows makes for a godawful living room experience. I know, I tried

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my pc is next to my tv so if I wanted to play off the couch it takes me all of three seconds to take the hdmi cable out of my left monitor and stick it in the tv, then I'm good to go.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're poor and only care about a few games a console is a decent purchase. If you can't afford a good computer you can buy a crappy laptop and a console to use with your poverty tier display and still play the one or two games you want. If you're poor and you want more games, the cost of console titles vs piracy or steam sales starts to shift the value proposition.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or because you want a media box for your living room which windows fucking sucks at and I'm assuming linux isn't any better if not worse

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can you even torrent on console?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I remember seeing a utorrent/bittorrent app on the xbone storefront a few years ago. Considering how that piece of shit handled basic internet browsing I wouldn't try it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How the fuck do people use consoles as media boxes? Are they compatible with NAS storage? Don't tell me these bros actually BUY blurays of the latest MCU goyslop.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I used mine for youtube and the internet. It was fucking garbage at both. Played a few movies from my HD and ran a few DVDs through it to acceptable results. Still rather use a proper computer though if only so I can block the incessant ads that plague every facet of that system.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Windows sucks as a media box
          What the fuck am I reading?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Can't wake a PC/windows up with an xbox controller
            >Windows HRD is a fucking mess, and windows doesn't have the same TV mode switching features that say an xbox does (as in auto switching from game mode to cinema profiles based on content being played)
            >Windows desktop is horrible as a front end, and most frint ends for windows are also pretty shit. Steam Big Picture is among one of the worst frontends I've ever used
            >Doesn't properly support dolby vision

            Windows is shit as a media center

            Can you even torrent on console?

            I have my xbox hooked up to my 24TB NAS which I fill with stuff I get off off usenet, torrenting is for chumps

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you bought a $500 console to stream off your NAS? You realize most TVs can already do that right?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My TV doesn't play modern video games

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ever hear of plex

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EMPTY BOX? NO, CONSOLE PS5 Digital Edition 825GB Playstation 5! Box Only
    >goes to urban dictionary to create 'box only'

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'd think that 60 FPS would be the standard by now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you'd think your breath would smell of something other than penis but nothing is a guarantee, is it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if consolefags are vocal enough, it might be
      until now, for 2 years, 9th gen was 60 fps 8th gen

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    New low end PCs are already more powerful than the new consoles.
    It shouldn't surprise you if anything.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are devs just becoming more and more incompetent or does nobody know how to use the damn engines?
    Like seriously there's no reason for things to be as bad as they are, you are most of the time working with dedicated software and hardware, how can you half ass everything so bad?

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Console manufacturers should've just mandated all games be locked at 1080P 60fps. Developers are fucking retarded and think graphics beyond 7th gen impresses anyone. All they're doing is stress testing and shareholders are loving it but consumers aren't.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about graphics
      Graphics are scaleable and you could still get 60 fps if it was just about making concessions to the graphics

      For Gotham Knights, it's fully untethered co-op. For A Plague Tale Requiem, it's rat simulation.
      Consoles are especially going to suffer in future games due to CPU limitations

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >For Gotham Knights, it's fully untethered co-op.
        fucking retard, the game struggles in single player on 3600

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ryzen 3600 was a mid cpu back in 2019
          we're on the ryzen 7000 series now grandpa

          and I'm pretty sure you can't just turn off the entire co-op framework of the game, even if you're playing alone with npcs
          the game was built around it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            don't pretend that 4000 and 6000 series existed
            5600X is still the most recommended CPU for gaming and it's not much of an improvement over 3600

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Consoles are underclocked iirc, at least PS5 is, idk about Xbox. 10-15% performance margin isn't something to sneeze at, though I do agree I am kinda disappointed in the gains per gen as of late.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If the 4090 has shown anything, is that games are now completely limited by the CPU
              Hopefully Intel will step up their game with Meteor Lake 14th gen processors next year. Rumours say they're going to be revolutionary
              >don't pretend that 4000 and 6000 series existed
              I don't, but the 3600/X were released well over a year before even the PS5/Xbox launched. They were made to play PS4 era games. Now that system requirements are rising (something that happens with every new console generation) the frame rates on those parts are going to inevitably suffer

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Now that system requirements are rising
                2500k was actually enough for majority of 8th gen, despite being released closer to 3 years before PS4 and Xbone.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The CPUs on the PS4 and Xbone were also a total joke, so you could easily rekt them
                Although even then 4c/4t could be pretty stuttery later on, let's be honest

                These new consoles' CPUs are not as amazing as some people like to pretend they are, but they are certainly not horrible for their time like the PS4/Xbone CPUs were
                So when developers start pushing these CPUs and games are running like shit on console, of course frame rates will drop in PC parts with similar specs
                You didn't have to worry much with a 2500k because console CPUs at that time were just that laughable

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If the 4090 has shown anything, is that games are now completely limited by the CPU
                That's only because NVidia decided that their main marketing strategy would involve a gimmick that is practically impossible to achieve in real time.
                See that even with the RTX4090 which is basically an industrial use GPU that they're trying to push to the end consumer, you still need fucking fake frames, upscalling and a bunch more tricks to get sometimes fucking 60 fps which is just ridiculous. And don't get excited, even in this extreme case you will still be seeing a far from acceptable image, especially if you have any standards and don't want to see denoisers working in real time or reflections that leave traces.
                Ray tracing is simply too big a leap, and NVidia doesn't seem willing to go back on their strategy, resulting in outliers like the RTX4090 that doesn't even have a CPU on the market for the end consumer that is capable of matching it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >For Gotham Knights, it's fully untethered co-op.
        fucking retard, the game struggles in single player on 3600

        Gotham Knights is so bad it struggles on PC even

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >4K120FPS
    arent consoles ridden with overheating problems?

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please educate yourself. You need biomechanic eyes to even SEE beyond 27.777 fps. Please don't fall for the hype that the "master race" marketers push on you to spend more money. 30 fps is more than us homo sapiens can perceive. And I speak this as a biologist with over 300 recorded Covid-19 takedowns in the microcospy lab, so don't take what I say lightly.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So how big of a leap are the pro models gonna be? I have a 3070, so I at least want a decent enough hardware gap for performance.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So how big of a leap are the pro models gonna be?
      Barely anything, plus the Pro models has a better GPU, not a better CPU, so it's still fucked.
      CPU limitation is still the reason why so many games come with barely any physic objects.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Assume it's gonna be a 10 FPS gap at most like the base Pro models. Will come close to my PC but think I'll be fine hopefully.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only differences between 7th, 8th and 9th gen is which hot new monetization scheme is fucking us. That's it, it's all the same shit otherwise. Nothing has felt new or interesting or medium defining since

    Gaming died after 6th gen

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No shit? hardware ages and console games provide little in graphical settings. Might as well write an article titled "expect better hardware in the future".

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Devs incompetency will turn 30fps into the standard again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >30 fps becomes the standard
      >diversity hire developers: Uh, the human cinema can't see past 18fps sweetie, let me guess you need more

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What did you expect? Gameplay and good performance doesn't sell to the mainstream. Realistic graphics and setpieces out of an action movie do. Devs will push this for as long as gaming remains popular. Switch to PC or limit your gaming to fighting games if you can't tolerate it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it literally doesn’t even matter what hardware is in, even if they made console out of literal alien tech, the devs (and especially the publishers) would just look for ways to use that power to push graphics to max at cost of everything else. Barring obvious shitshows like Gotham Knights where the issue is just clear incompetence, the issue is not the hardware, it’s priorities.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just give the users the ability to change their graphical settings?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they already do in a limited way with performance modes
      but games that are cpu limited won't get a stable higher frame rate no matter what you do so devs won't bother

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Modes are a load of shit. Let them tweak the settings individually and get whatever performance they want. There is no reason not to have these options.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    careful pc peasants, a 30 fps game on a ps5 is not even going to function on your graphics card from a decade ago

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but the ps5 card is from a decade ago..

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RX 5700 XT came out 10 years ago? Wow, time flies.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmfao is that really the ps5 card? sad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even recent cards will struggle, yes.
      I'm making a new build next year but so far I run most games just fine on my 4K oled though

      But yes, this will change with UE5 games and any 30FPS PS5 titles. This engine is shit, barely looks better than UE4 yet runs so slowly it's insane.
      Looking at the few UE5 games available, this shit requires almost 1 (One) teraflops of power PER NATIVE 4K FRAMES.
      The 4090 is almost 100 TF with OC and get 100FPS average on UE5 game First Descendant.
      The PS5 would get 10FPS at equivalent settings, that's why UE5 for consoles is barely above 1080p then upscaled to 4K (we know this from the Matrix demo)

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like most devs are incompetent or just lazy fucks. Id Software delivers great looking games on consoles while also having 4K 60FPS or 120FPS modes.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >got dreamcast at release as a kid
    >"Man, a lot of these games are smooth!" since I didn't know about fps, etc.
    >expected the future to be 'smooth' games with good graphics

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >got dreamcast at release as a kid
      >"Man, a lot of these games are smooth!"
      Lol, most DC games were 30FPS..
      I was blown away too as a kid but "smooth" isn't how I'd describe Dreamcast games.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mostly played the arcade style ones, but yeah, it wasn't perfect. As a kid it felt like an upgrade after playing 64 games that chugged along.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just remove usless shit like 4k, rtx?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hitting your native res is useless

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yhea for sure we have "real 4k" sure is "4k"

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder Euroshitter is trying to normalize 30fps to make up for shit devs ability to make games.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >graphicsfags
    >nintendo should stop making such weak
    handhelds
    >also graphicsfags
    >30 fps? yes please!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nintendo has the right idea on game development, I just don't like their IP's and gimmicky hardware.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is what will hold back console frame rates
    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+4700S
    The console CPUs are a modified version of this... thing

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SlopBox cope thread

    >Gamepass
    Fail
    >Zune
    Fail
    >Bing
    Fail
    >Windows Vista
    Fail
    >Microsoft Band
    Fail
    >Windows 8
    Fail
    >Windows Phones
    Fail
    >Mixer
    Fail
    >GFWL
    Fail
    >OG Xbox
    Fail
    >360
    RROD
    >Xbox One
    Fail
    >360 Kinect
    Fail
    >Kinect 2.0
    Fail
    >Sea of Theives
    Fail
    >Crackdown 3
    Fail
    >Halo 5
    Fail
    >Halo Infinite
    Fail

    Reminder they also killed Rare, introduced paid online to online console gaming, want to strip all ownership away from the consumer by making everything digital-only on Xcloud and Gamepass, and all off their exclusives are mtx-riddled pay-to-win garbage like Sea of Thieves, Gears4&5, and Halo 5.

    It's also funny that some of you think buying Bethesda is going to save them. Bethesda hasn't made a good game since Skyrim, the rest of their games can't even hit metacritic scores of 80. Let's not also forget they let Bethesda put the Horse Amour DLC on the 360 marketplace back in 2007. If they hadn't done that, microtranstations and other bullshit greedy DLC practices wouldn't even be a thing today.

    Microsoft is the most greedy, anti-consumer, monopolistic, disgusting company there is. Stop defending their shit, Ganker.

    The SERIES ASS is an shit cucksole designed to scam the consumer renting chud indie games and 14 year old 360 games like goyim cattle.

    If you buy and/or support Microsoft in any way, even ironically, you deserve death.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meds

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rent free

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rare killed itself

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man, everyone loves to shit on Vista, but it looked beautiful and worked for my gaming ass just fine
      I'd trade this soulles fucking W10/11 back for Vista any day
      I'm feeling nostalgia just by looking at it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        most of the issues with vista were due to third party vendors not updating their drivers and people having hardware too old.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          by the time Windows 7 was released, which didn't have that large of a difference in its kernel and libraries compared to vista all hardware vendors had already updated most of their shit or people had already updated their hardware.

          you can at any time install W7 and Vista either on a VM or on hardware from similar age and you'll see that both OSes perform about the same and are about as stable as one another.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I had brand new high end pc in 2008 with Vista on it and did not understand the hate and jokes
          it was my first own PC as well, I had plenty experience with XP though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vista was half the reason PC gaming got shoved aside during 7th Gen due to compat issues and just being a shit OS in general.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          man, everyone loves to shit on Vista, but it looked beautiful and worked for my gaming ass just fine
          I'd trade this soulles fucking W10/11 back for Vista any day
          I'm feeling nostalgia just by looking at it

          Only nostalgic thing about Vista is this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pay to win
      >sea of thieves

      I havn't played it in a while what the fuck happened to it?

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Xbox has no exclusives
    >Playstation has no good exclusives
    >All the good Switch exclusives can be emulated at better performance than the actual console
    Literally no reason to play anything on console. If you're still falling for the console meme you deserve shit performance on a closed platform with paid online and overpriced games and accessories.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""More ambitious games""""""""""""""""""""""""""”"""""" suck my cock

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The rat game is not 60 fps because of the dumb rat mechanic most games will never use (they probably should have toned it down for a 60 fps option)

    Gotham knights is a trash optimized game.

    Ratchet and clank a rift apart is still probably the best looking game in years and runs at 60 fps + with nominal ray tracing.

    Third party devs aren't trying or more likely just don't have the staff with the know how at this current juncture.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FPS is a fucking gimmick.
    It's blast processing.

    Nobody cares. gays pretend to care because it makes them feel cool about themselves.

    It's cope for when people suck at video games. You just blame fps, or lag, or the controller, or whatever.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ambitious
    Code word for poorly optimized open world trash

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can just lower graphical settings on pc if you want better fps
    >can't on console because uuuuuuuuuuhhh
    I'm so fucking tired of console gaming. But hey, at least we have ""RTX"" enabled on gotham knights right??
    May as well dust off the old ps3 since there's fuckall games on pissstation 5 and they're both 30fps machines anyways for fucks sake.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This game in particular is a trainwreck of programming
      The only reason it is a "next gen only" game is because it is so poorly coded that it can't run on the last gen console cpus, while not offering any sort of feature to justify it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can't fix a cpu bottleneck by just lowering resolution

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This game in particular is a trainwreck of programming
      The only reason it is a "next gen only" game is because it is so poorly coded that it can't run on the last gen console cpus, while not offering any sort of feature to justify it

      can't fix a cpu bottleneck by just lowering resolution

      This game shouldn't even exist. It should NEVER have been greenlit to run at 30 fps on current gen consoles. Forget acces to graphics settings, they may actually normalize this shit.
      >it's just this one game
      We are living in the very definition of a game industry distopia. Assume the absolute worst.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a matter of "normalizing", it's a matter of the game been proven to run like absolute dogshit and using the consoles like a crutch

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We've long since plateau'd when it comes to graphics. These fagot Publishers need to stop pushing devs to push the graphical fidelity when we won't see anything noticeably better in decades.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >getting Wichard to serve as damage control for this
    I expected better of you Wichard. You'll be in your late 70s by the time this gen is over.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PChads, we can't stop winning

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    optional performance modes are already the standard. 30fps will be reserved for 4k cuckery aka shit

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The truth is that most devs now don't have the prowess or the desire to properly optimize their games. They just slap together shiny new visuals and effects without regard to how it's going to run on weaker hardware because the next new thing with a few extra GB of VRAM and 2x the tflops is right around the corner.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >3 years into the gen
      >lready talk about pro versions of the current hardware line up
      Yeah its not like fags had a hard enough time trying to the get the current stock as is.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The PS4 Pro came out 3 years into its gen. If they follow the same timeline, we'll have a PS5 Pro by next year.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can only imagine the sheer amount of cope that would be following an announcement like that.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ambitious
    >look at the shinies and the trees and the rocks and the grass and the wall textures its soooooooo realistic it looks just like a video game! Also working mirrors! It's very important that we have working mirrors. Working mirrors is the future!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      working mirrors is important. we had it in the ps1 era and there is no excuse to not have it now.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >more ambitious games
    moron they barely look better than what we had in 2010 or even before that

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More people from what I've seen seem to give more of if not an equal amount of a shit about intentionally low-fidelity aesthetics in games. Look how fucking popular games like undertale, balmorons basics, hell even FnaF are, people still won't shut the fuck up about those games in current year. Plus the advent of making every game look like a ps1 game which has gotten popular in the past 2-3 years. I for one couldn't care less if a game looks photorealistic or not, as long as it plays well, the nice graphics are just a fashionable, optional plus to my immersion if I just so happen to get sucked into the game.

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks Sonya!

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why they don't aim for 40fps instead. The Steam Deck already proved it looks much better than 30 for a much smaller performance impact than 60.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THE POWER OF THE SSD HAS FAILED US BROS...
    ALL THOSE GIGA TRANSFERS, GIGAFLOPS, HAHA YEAHA BIG FLOP THAT'S RIGHT.
    THEY SAID NATIVE 4K, 60 FPS... 120 FPS MODES.
    INSTEAD WE GOT 1440P UPSCALED 30 FPS ON LOW SETTINGS
    BROS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN THEY LIED. THE SSD WAS MEANT TO RENDER 4K!!!!!

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone talks about consoles doing 60fps and 4k, but i always wondered in what settings are the game running, if you disable shadows and put the textures on low it'd obviously gonna run anywhere

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THE POWER OF THE SSD HAS FAILED US BROS...
      ALL THOSE GIGA TRANSFERS, GIGAFLOPS, HAHA YEAHA BIG FLOP THAT'S RIGHT.
      THEY SAID NATIVE 4K, 60 FPS... 120 FPS MODES.
      INSTEAD WE GOT 1440P UPSCALED 30 FPS ON LOW SETTINGS
      BROS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN THEY LIED. THE SSD WAS MEANT TO RENDER 4K!!!!!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's depressing, do console fags really play like this?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          With slowdowns.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Motion blur: On
        No wonder they only play movie games

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >30 fps
    Lmao. I've been using high freshrate for a decade now... 120hz, 144hz... 240hz. Thinking about 360hz but I'd need to upgrade my PC from a 9900k / 2080ti.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's inevitable because Devs are pushing boring, taxing, high-fidelity graphics. And to make things worse, they use generic, pre-baked engines with tons of abstractions that make the games more bloated than they need to be. Modern devs simply don't have the computer science skill to do what was done in the past.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >taxing, high-fidelity graphics
      lol.
      lmao.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because Devs are pushing boring, taxing, high-fidelity graphics
      Just wanna confirm, you're not talking about memetracing, right?

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What even is the point of better graphics if the west refuses to make cute girls or put proper gore in the games?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TLOU2 is pretty gory, however men in drag are far more disgusting than any gore.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I will admit that TLOU2 did a good job with it's gore, but it could still have been much better. and TLOU2 seems to be mostly an outlier in this aspect...

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Ambitious" my ass

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >return of 30fps console games
    and the royalty gave the peasantry a taste of their lives, not out of any kindness but to show the poorfolk something they could never have and fill them with despair as they returned to squalor

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >return
    it never left to begin with

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How badly does pic related mog even the xbox series x?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      quite a bit but keep in mind most of that card is the fans / heat dispersion, the actual gpu part is much smaller

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    30fps has nothing to do with ssd you moron
    framerates are tied to gpu power
    if you want the best visuals, you'll be playing at 30fps
    60fps is only possible if you sacrifice some graphical quality

    what devs should do is offer 30fps and 60fps profiles, let the user decide if they want more graphics

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah. The suits and the masses want better and better graphics, and that means lower FPS. Damn near any console can do 60 FPS if you just tone the effects down enough, but that isn't what sells.

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A generational jump like the ones from SNES to PS1 or PS2 to PS3 is never going to happen anymore

    Get over it, number one reason is that an almost 10 years old console such as PS4 is still around

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you didn't catch on to this cycle over a decade ago, there's no hope for you

    Devs were always able to push the hardware to 60 fps

    They just allocate rendering power into other bullshit

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile, I'm enjoying older games, romhacks and indies at a crisp 60 FPS. Graphix whores lose once again.

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At this point who really cares
    What games are there to even look forward to? I come to Ganker out of habit there is no longer anything for me here

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