>the very first move he throws a bomb and kills my entire party before I get to even make a fucking move
WTF IS THIS WE ALL HAVE 112 HP
>the very first move he throws a bomb and kills my entire party before I get to even make a fucking move
>the very first move he throws a bomb and kills my entire party before I get to even make a fucking move
WTF IS THIS WE ALL HAVE 112 HP
why does HE have the first move at that part of the game? you're telling me no one at your party has Alert or any sort of high initiative?
Because the game is a fucking shitty rngfest? I reload the autosave and the third time now 3 of my guys have the first move and I beat him easily. The game is a joke. And I read his journals and he is the good guy of the story, what the fuck.
He isn't the good guy he just happens to be the follower of the only interesting of the Dead Three, which is why it's philosophy isn't touched on at all.
>Bane
>interesting
Dude, he's the most boring of them all
He's really not. His clever scheme to seize power is infinitely more interesting than "Haha murderhobo" Orin and "Kill the whole world" Ketheric.
Lawful evil >>>> whatever the other two are selling.
Myrkul could've been interesting if they had done him like MotB did. Manipulative jerk.
There's no way to make Bhaal interesting.
>There's no way to make Bhaal interesting.
There is if you make him some Lovecraftian mastermind that forces people to delve into paranoia and kill each other.
>dude
>murder
>lmaolth
Imagine a megapolis full of paranoidal schizos who accuse each other of the recent murders and occasionally lynch innocents. That's really far from "murder lmao".
>There's no way to mACK
>whoa you murderhobo'd someone in your sleep EPIK
yep.......and guess which anon's next 🙂
>16 ACk
haha what if you took off her clothes and started touching her haha
Gortash is a bro the whole game and I'm tired of pretending he's not. took that based guy and our deal right to the end with me.
How can he be based when he was mean to Karlach and sold magic weapons to goblins?
>mean to Karlach
Nice, you get Wyll's reward armor and got rid of the redit character in one swoop.
>doesnt know how to build a char
>its the game's fault
>losing to the biggest jobber boss in the game
anon, just stop being a retarded, destroy the traps before the fight, have alert in your party, reroll your stats to have a proper build, one shot him with a sorcerer and 3 desintegrate in your first round
its not that hard.
Damn being a dumb moron that doesn't know how to read or sage must fucking suck. Embarrassing
>sorcerer
Hahahahahaha fucking gay, stop sucking dicks, you're a literal homosexual
>getting filtered by a game based around LARPing
He isn't even dying to the guy, it's the big obvious bomb launchers on the walls he ignored before attacking.
>D&D
>LARP
lol
tons of women play 5e so I guess he died as he lived, retarded and wrong about pretty much everything
Do they play 5e or the theatrics?
The male/female ratio is 5/2, at best. Closer to 9/1 I'd wager.
they make better players too since they'll do the combat just fine but actually pay attention to the story while the average fa/tg/uy calls you a "story shitter" and insists on trying to murder everything in sight like a maladjusted schizo
>Not murdering everything and everyone.
Poor form.
>play game based around dice rolls
>bitch about rng
do you bitch about card games being rng too?
Is banes voice still bugged?
Yup. What a shitshow.
Ketheric got a cutscene and this poor dude just enlarges. His body looked like Mr. Fantastic when I killed him for some reason as well.
didn't even know he had a form as chosen, didn't ever transform for me
maybe i killed him too fast, god act 3 is such a letdown
imagine if orin or gortash got the same level of spectacle that ketheric did
I just wanted the option to join them or replace at least 1 of them. Orin gets shafted and you just chill with the bros.
For you
i see you anon
>Every fight devolves into scummy stealth poke for low dex characters or just skipping the dialogue bullshit and spamming ranged attack before the AI initiates the combat mode.
It's really starting to fatigue me. None of this feels smart and all the encounters (muh rp very important dialog) are so hostile to you it's insane. I almost want to do an all rogue or all ranger party just to see how fucking stupid it can get having stealth and alpha on almost every encounter (that doesn't have steel watch morons in it, why the FUCK do giant robots have 22 fucking DEX?
>why the FUCK do giant robots have 22 fucking DEX?
Nanomachines, son. Gortash even throws them during the fight.
>Alert
Lmao. Good joke.
>alpha strike doesn't matter
you've never played a strategy or a turn-based game, have you?
there's so many +2 initiative trinkets and armors littered around that you can get a cement-shoe 8dex to the front of the turn line with minimal effort, why waste the feats
Ah, console player, are you? There's a mod for a feat every level, except level 1, of course.
but why do you need that if you can already shitstomp tactician with default builds
i really hope we get some sort of hypermode mods like divinity 2 had, random elites, doubled pack sizes and all that cool shit
So do I. On my second playthrough I used mods, including the party size, and lvl 20 mods. It was cool being able to see so much more of the world in one go, but it made the combat shit easy if you didn't intentionally handicap yourself by having a character or two just do nothing the whole time.
It's fun to play around with, but the OPness of it can detract from your experience if you're not careful
>feat every level
The game is already piss easy. I don't see how this enriches the experience in any meaningful way unless you add unlimited levels and solo.
that's not what alpha strike means.
>The Virgin high-fantasy fag VS The Chad industrial revolution explosives enjoyer
This. OP came in there with a sword or something while this guy has automatic grenade launchers and mind controllable mechs
Joining with Gortash to fulfill your true purpose (As Dark Urge) is the only canon ending.
>automatic grenade launchers and mind controllable mechs
There is literally no in-lore explanation why some powerful king cannot use spell scrolls as ammunition and equip his elite troops with automatized casting devices. Like modern semi-auto rifles, but casting fireballs and chain lightning, and mortars that cast ice/fire storm.
There can be a homebrew solution by GM (the Weave exhausts after casting and needs time to re-weave itself), but DnD doesn't explicitly forbid it.
How could you use scrolls as ammunition? They need someone to read them, right?
So...maybe trap a speed-reading pixie in your magic mortar?
>So...maybe trap a speed-reading pixie in your magic mortar?
Yeah, like the pixies that they used in Moonlanterns.
Also the captain of this troop can put multiple pixies in his chaingun and obliterate enemies even with low-level spells (i.e. 6x(Lv.1 Magic Missile)).
>belt-fed magic chaingun
>the belt is a bunch of scrolls
>>the belt is a bunch of scrolls
Scrolls in a protective shell. You don't want some fucker to accidentally burn your ammo stock.
So this magic chaingun will rain empty shells just like a regular one.
>battlefield covered in frozen, burnt, melted, etc bodies, littered with scroll casings
Instead of weapons manufacturers, the industrial magic countries will have factories writing (printing?) millions of scrolls to fuel mechanical magic weapons
Well, that's what monasteries IRL have been doing with books.
So I imagine there can be some Mystra Temple repurposed for the wartime industry.
>Well, that's what monasteries IRL have been doing with books.
Copyright infringment?
Literally didn't exist. There was only the fanfic control committee (the Inquisition).
>there’s an illithid larva in his chest
>item context menu says it can be combined with something
>read notes around for hints
>no mention of it
>look online
>there is no item it can be combined with it’s likely cut content
Bravo larian
Larian pretended there was no cut content to protect their good boy developer reputation, they will quietly add it back in for the GOTY Edition in a year or so.
already are
karlach good ending
minthara romance
they all got "patched up" as if you can program all that sort of stuff in a week between patches
they likely will keep adding it back according to popularity
expect daisy to return before the end of the year kek
Larian, release the Daisy cut!
Who is this daisy everyone keeps mentioning
Early access dream waifu that was supposed to actually tempt you to give in to the tadpole and live with her down by the river. They rehashed her in to the Emperor.
The dream guardian in the EA version of the game was your tadpole/the absolute trying to seduce you rather than the Emporer, they where nicknamed daisy in the files, only Tav's tulpa was fully customizeable.
All the origin characters had a unique 'daisy' and unique dreams with it.
Coomers may love the idea of Daisy, but it's a trash idea. It's just an obvious bad ending. You cannot coexist with the parasite.
better a clear-cut bad ending than a schizo ending full of plotholes
>but it's a trash idea
So is the emperor, a mind flayer that wants sex.
>a mind flayer that manipulates you to do its bidding
hilarious and pathetic attempt at a rebuttal. try harder next time.
Nope. Slightly shit thing > very shit thing
>What do you mean you won't sleep with me?
>Yeah well I was just manipulating you anyway!
>What do you mean you won't help me?
>I'M GOING TO HELP THE BRAIN WAAAAH
BG3 is full of hilariously bad writing. I'm always amazed that the games/modules/stories/porn of d&d shit is so bad when the lore is so rich and the possibilities nearly endless.
Fix the shortstacks, Larian.
To be fair what was he supposed to do? Orpheus would've either killed or released him back to the Netherbrain anyway. No way he would trust an illithid who might've been an agent of the netherbrain and kept him imprisoned. Guy's got pride you know.
>kiss the tentacles
>it moans like it's squirming through them
It's an amusing scene, in a goofy way
And then it turns out the emperor is Balduran
Directed by M. Knight Shyamalan
no fucking way
>didn't find ansur's tomb almost immediately while autistically roaming the beaches
not
gonna
make
it
What? It's in the prison, right?
There’s a bit of pipe on the beach that leads into this super secret hidden dragon resting place set up by Baldur himself that requires some esoteric opening ritual to get into normally
>esoteric opening ritual
The game literally tells you lightning and torches lmao.
How? I needed to be a guide-reading moron to find it on my second playthrough. Does Ravengaard tell you, if you handle that situation in a way that he is still alive, rescued, and you haven't re-killed Ansur yet?
he does, yeah. if you free him he sends you down there on a quest to recruit the dragon that had sworn a pact to defend baldurs gate if it was ever in danger, but could only be called on once. They dont know that the dragon is dead.
I failed to save him my first playthrough. My second was an EEEVIL run, so Wyll left my party after I chaotic stupid'd the tieflings and druids. I rescued Ravengaard after dealing with the Wyrmway, so when I got to talk to him in camp, he demanded to speak to his son after hearing Ansur is dead. But Wyll no longer exists, so....
Yeah
And there’s literally no way of knowing that without being told it
I've been calling the game Balduran's Gay for a reason
Schrodinger's asspull.
He's Balduran in all the ways that are convenient for a surface-level throwback but just a Mindflayer who's LARPing in any case where it causes a massive plot hole.
>OK yes it works and its not a plot hole but I'm still ass blasted about it
who asked
Not "is" and not even "was".
Mind flayers are completely separate creatures from their hosts.
Also in 2023 you are actually a transphobe and deadname him.
>Mind flayers are completely separate creatures from their hosts.
then why is this not true when you or any of your party members become mindflayers in order to handle the brain?
The Emperor was so messily written with inconsistent motives and inconsistent actions. Completely breaks the lore of mind flayers as well.
I would have much rather the Daisy outcome
It's not that he was messily written, it's that 2-3 different plotlines got condensed into his
Daisy would be kino if the writers could pull it off (they can't). Make her an actually likeable character even after knowing what she is, then force players with a choice of either killing her off or saving her at the expense of themselves/the world. You already saw how autistic people got about not being able to save Karlach, imagine the shitshow with an actually good character.
Daisy was better executed, instead of the dumb eat more tadpoles to level up thing you gained abilities as you used your illithid powers and the dreams became more frequent.
Daisy was super fucked in EA, the bugginess of the game made all her cutscenes super award and she was unable to be taken seriously, combine that with the tadpole powers being complete shit and everyone hating you if you give into them and it led to no one trusting Daisy, leading Larian to change it.
That is something that should have been improved on instead of going with the current system where it absolutely doesn't matter how much you give in to the squid despite the game warning you a trillion times.
>tadpole powers being complete shit and everyone hating you if you give into them
I don't think those class-based abilities were triggering anything party relationship-wise, only the dialogue ones with [Illithid] tag.
Lae'zel's psionic pull was GOATed
larvae are used for illithid power you fucking moron
Not this one you illiterate double moron
Play the game
>Play the game
i cant, because im retarded and played 40 hours whithout leaving act 1 aftert rerolling every hour because i'm schizophrnic.
Jesus, why? You can respec. The only thing you can't respec is your race.
yes, i learned that after the 30hours mark and then got fucked by the update who wouldn't let me continue my save with mods.
then i tried playing starfield and got soft locked of my save after 30min.
then i got back od BG3 and got softlocked after a new reroll.
i cant get up pls help
i will still be better than you at act 1
youll never be me
I made the most optimal choices from the start, you cannot hope to win.
i couldnt won from the start.
you better than me.
no bully or i tell daddy, i was 6 once.
If you levelled up to Lvl 5 before you left Act 1 you DID NOT beat the game. Act 1 is balanced around Lvl 4 party.
Got to level 6 as soon as I arrived to grimforge, I'm just that good ;/
>be me
>go to aunti ethel at level 7
>lae'zel has her silver sword already
>lae'zel otks the hag before she can run
>shadowheart nukes the redcaps with Sunbeam
QQ
>be me
>go to Auntie Ethel at level 3
>die
>>lae'zel otks the hag before she can run
And you missed the +1?
Tisk tisk
Not worth it to me. Especially with Act 2/Act 3 items boosting your stats to 22+.
>Not worth it to me.
YOU LOSE NOTHING, GOOD DAY SIR
pls daddy tell me what happen after mommy leave act 1.
I think that depends if you let her go with Marinya or not.
i killed both because neither wanted to cuddle.
It's one of the rare moments where the "right" decision is punished and the "wrong" is rewarded.
She is revived in Act 3 anyway and you can only kill her for good there.
Literally a plot hole. The character converted to a mind flayer should be uncontrollable.
>Literally a plot hole.
Just seems to be an incorrect assumption for this game in particular because there is nothing in bg3 suggesting that the "free" mindflayers aren't themselves.
>Orpheus
>Jergal
>Omeleum
jergal doesnt say that they are not themselves, just that they do not have souls. There is a distinction to be made there.
mindlflayers are just a mental Ship of Theseus, the parasite retains memory and personality of a prior host after their body and soul are destroyed. think star trek beams, are you the same person you were before being atomized and reconstructed in a different location? no, but functionally yes
D&D isn't an atheist fantasy though. Gods and souls exist, and there's no doubt about it because they fuck shit up all the time.
Illithids have the memories of everyone they consume, equally with their original memory. If they do have personalities, it's simply a sum of those they've consumed.
>get to Ethel on during beta release 3 years ago
>end fight in first round because stealthed rogue isnt in combat yet and shoves her down a hole thus ending the fight in the first round
>get to ethel on release, and decide to actually fight her this time
>shank her in own house for free damage
>susser.jpg
>auntie ethel waddles around in fear unable to teleport to her lair as the squad beats her to death for two turns.
Susser dagger is such bullshit and I kept that thing with me the entire game because it's effect is dumb. In retrospect anyone who can cast silence could probably achieve the same effect, but it's still nice.
Just have more initiative.
What kind of enchantment does his outfit have? It's a snazzy fucking fit and I want to steal it.
>anon doesn't stealth attack everyone by Act 3
The game really wants you to play cringe sometimes
got to the Act 2 final boss (I'm assuming) and I saw the obvious pit kill, but ignored it
Flash forward to me getting cleaved by the Bone Lord when my whole party was on the central platform, when I retry it I'm just gonna say fuck him and cheese it
I dont think you can push people in the pit. You can convince Kethric to kill himself though if you read some letters that reveal his past
No, you can push people into the pit, I knocked the mindflayer into it one time on tactician.
pretty sure kethric specifically has armor that makes it so you can't push him. The worst part of the fight imo was the AoE bone chill making it hard to keep everyone up because lol no healing.
>if you side with him, he still dies
Thanks for respecting my choice Larian
the ending is incredibly railroaded. yeah it sucks balls
at least we had more choices along the way I suppose
Yeah this one pissed me off too. He died so early on that siding with him served absolutely no purpose at all. He contributed nothing. At least let him participate in some of the early fights or something.
It contributed to letting everyone die in the Ironthrone and keeping Steelwatchers around
I always just kill him so I don't know how the game forces you to kill him if you try to let him live. Every person with the magic stones was planning to betray each other though, Gortash would have 100% betrayed you and tried to kill you after you help him kill Orin so he can have all the stones to himself. I assume that is how the game forces you to kill him?
He just fucking explodes
The game directly tells you Gortash won't betray you like that. He's lawful like Raphael, the others aren't.
He only betrays you if you are a weak partner and give up the stones first, which makes sense as he needs someone with a strong Will to help him
I think my favorite "illusion of choice" moments are when you tell someone to fuck off and they exposition dump you anyway. Act 2 sucks dick.
>Act 2 sucks dick
filtered
It's too linear to be good. Dilate, Aylin.
>little girl with cat arrives at camp without me telling her where I camp
>"c-can I stay pls"
>no fuck off
>"y-you should've said yes tho!!"
>keeps teleporting in my camp over and over
>always say no and she keeps coming back infinitely
>later discover she is some kind of forced meme plot character that gets kidnapped by the blood bitch but since I kept sending her away she took halsin (lol)
chapter 3 is so fucking bad, the game goes from 8/10 to 7/10 to 4/10 god damn I heard all larian games are like this but this is some bullshit
I thought she was Orin who shapeshifted to spy on my camp. In fact it seemed so obvious and I was baffled that I couldn’t investigate her even after Gortash told me there was an imposter in my camp.
That's who she was, the girl dissapears after someone gets captured
Why does the cat stay at my camp?
He's a total pussy.
Well that’s the only explanation that made sense to me, it was just lame that I couldn’t figure it out in-game. I even tried attack her and she took no damage and just ran away
This is literally not true. What the fuck?
Happened to me
Act 3 is buggy as fuck.
What bugs?
It has massive performance issues but that's because Larian decided they needed to render the entire fucking city at once
I was responding to a conversation about a broken NPC, for one.
Well for me when Halsin disappeared so did the girl leaving behind a clearly abused cat. Doubt it was a bug, but unfortunately the game never actually addresses this so it's hard to tell.
weird, that never happened to me, i did allow her to stay from the beginning though. Orin ended up taking Halsin as well though
>Gortash: "Orin is someone in your camp"
Okay it's totally the little girl who shoved her way into my camp preying on my pity and her cat who acts scared shitless when I talk to him.
>Talk to her to tell her to fuck off
>Can't
>Attack her
>She dashes off like kid characters do
>Orin ends up stealing someone anyway
Fucking hell.
The worst illusion of choice shit is all the retarded skill checks that lead to the same outcome as the non skill check option. There's one in particular where you have to pass multiple skill checks and it makes no difference.
The evil side of the game is honestly so pathetic, which is annoying because Larian paraded it about in advertising quite a bit.
>Deliver Isobel and Nightsong to Ketheric
>"Damn you're amazing. Well done"
>Artifact pops out
>"NOOOOOO DESTROY THEM"
>Same fucking ending as a good run through act 2 would lead up to
Act 1 at least has the goblins raiding the grove. Past act 2 they just stopped giving a fuck.
The fact that they only managed to come up with murderhobo evil is embarrassing but expected.
>wipe out the inn
>kill Nightsong in Act 2 or give her to the wizard in Act 3
>kill the celestial detective in Act 3 before or after fulfilling the other murders
>slaughter the Gondians
>help Astarion ascend
>>help Astarion ascend
That's not an evil move. It's only evil if you let him live after the final fight when he stops being useful.
>detective clearly has a man’s voice
>named Valeria
>she
Killing it is a good thing
Yup was funny the alliance of him and an schizophrenic dragonborn
The game is full of shit like this, as early as act 1. If a real DM came up with some of these encounters you'd call them a fucking retard and not play with them anymore.
How do you unlock that costume for Clive?
>first try
>he kills my entire party in a single turn without me getting a chance to react
>second try
>basically kills himself with his own bombs almost immediately
Practically every boss encounter in act 3 is total trash. Raphael seems OK as it seems like there is lots of shit to deal with until you realize he has trash saves and you can just hold monster him.
you're probably level 30 irl and I bet a bomb would 1 shot you
i want him
Same
He and Ketheric had great voices. Also Balthazar
Balthazar had a good voice, too. He really nailed the 'Ganker if he necromancer' vibe
>underwater base
>submarines
>screen communications
>robots with digital voices
Didn't they go too technological with him? For a moment looks like a Bioschock rip off...
>return from sub adventure
>ocean church people are waiting there for some reason
>”hand over the captain so we may kill him”
>hand him over
>all the good guy companions disapprove
>slaughter the dozen or so ocean church women
>Astarion disapproves
???
Trolley problem.jpg
No Trolley problem, the approval of "good" NPCs does NOT matter.
apparently he was responsible for someone from the church's death but it wasn't really his fault. i forgot why, i think he says it when they pull up on him.
all of the good guys disapprove if you let him get lynched because he isn't fully to blame. astaron disapproves if you stick your neck out to save him because he doesn't care about doing the "right" thing if there's an easier option like just handing him over and leaving.
She swam in front of the sub.
They worship umberlee who is chaotic evil. They murder some child in BG1 and you can slaughter them all there too
umberlee is a chaotic evil entity, fuck her and fuck all her followers simps, you should just purge their church for good measure.
But if you don’t side with them then you miss out on getting their sexy armor
>wearing sub optimal slut armor
Way better and less hated than Shar. I just wanted tech from the smartypants dwarf.
Tell me how that goes if you ever step foot in the ocean.
To be fair, using your trolley problem analogy, you killed everyone on both sides of the train tracks and then killed the train driver to boot. Not exactly the optimal solution.
No witnesses. Seems optimal to me
>Uses his watercar to drive people to a torture house in exchange for money
>Guy runs over some scantily clad water bitch in his undersea jalopy while doing so
>It's a hit and run, guy keeps driving
>Queen sea bitch offers my girlfriend shadowheart a sexy dress simply for turning him in
>Expects to simply walk away
His days were numbered kek
People straight out ban all artificer shit on their tables for a reason.
>hear all this shit about the submarine mission
>think anons are just baiting, ignore it
>come across the submarine by accident
>Gortash calls me to say "if you go in there I'm gonna kill everyone lol"
>turn around
>kill Gortash
>return the submarine
>the driver/captain/pilot (what do you call a person in control of a submarine) has fucked off, along with his submarine
Fucker!
THE EDICT OF BAIN!
BAIN?
It's like pain, but in Spurdo Sparde.
>cast a concentration spell
>some enemy from across the map zerg rushes to my exact location with infinite AP, pulls a flashbang grenade from his ass and tosses it at me, instantly pulling me out of concentration
>be lvl 20 wizard
>can’t split concentration between two level 1 spells
Concentration is retarded and I hate it
>go invisible
>enemy runs up to my exact location
>motions as if looking side to side
>casts detect presence/detect invisibility
>this happens in almost every fight
>even against shitter enemies like skeletons/goblins
>use wild magic barb
>black tendrils
>life steal everything around you every turn
>oh cool, ill just rush in
>uses concentration so you will just instantly lose it every time
If I had to pick the biggest flaw with 5e it would be concentration.
For me, its
>Enemy shoots acid arrow
>Critical miss!
>Critical miss!
>Save succesful!
>Concentration failed!
WARCASTER FEAT YOU DUMB FUCKS
Sorry, I'm trans. I meant Resilient: Con.
>cast hunger of hadur from surprise
>run away
>only go back to black hole enemies back into the cloud who are trying to stop my concentration
its too easy.
>enemy taking a first turn
wut? I fought him there and he didn't kill me at all. Are you not level 12?
>give this gay orin and ketheric's stones
>"wow you gave them up THAT easily? you're too weak to be my ally, die"
>approach him again and be more reluctant to giving up the stones
>"I have no time for games anon, give the stones or fucking die"
What the fuck was his problem?
if you cast detect thoughts, he is literally thinking in that moment "I'm testing him to see if he will just give it to me like a coward or back down when I push back", he wants you to stand your ground both times then he'll consider you a worthy ally
Yeah, his whole encounter felt pretty meh. He didn't event have a second form with Bane powers :
Gortash was so lame and didn't seem to fit in the world at all also his boss fight was so weak lol, worse of the 3
>didn't seem to fit in the world at all
Literally Harpers (aka luddites) propaganda. He does fit the world where technology and political manipulation can be even more intricate than IRL.
just throw it back at him, are you retarded? I literally went through that entire section just throwing the bombs back at them he was a total pushover
not OP but I didnt know you could just toss the bombs from him or the demon guy in shars temple.
Let's talk about Shadowpubes
>Destroy every single projectile launcher in 1 turn by casting artistry of war
yeah I'm thinking it's a skill issue
Horrible
What's the best way to level a paladin/warlock multiclass? 5 first in pala for extra attack then 3 in warlock for pact blade? I'm trying to make a death knight kinda build
Paladins, Warlocks and Death Knights are three completely distinct class identities that are pretty much incompatible with each other. You disgust me.
1. There are Dark Paladins like Lady Aribeth.
2. There are Archfey patrons.
You can also make contracts with generally good or neutral extraplanar beings like celestials and genies.
Oathbreaker is similar to a death knight and I hear 3 points in warlock is stronk for pala. With Pact Blade do you just dump strength and max char once you have it?
Either 2 paladin/10 bladelock, or 6 paladin/6 bladelock.
What's the stat distribution on a bladelock? Is strength a dump stat since pact blade uses char for weapon damage?
I did 10 STR, 14+1 DEX, 14 CON, 8 INT, 10 WIS, 15+2 CHA but dumping STR probably would've been more optimal since their are quite a lot of non-repeatable INT checks in the game while most STR checks can be redone with another character.
what's the point of 6/6 pallock?
I misremembered what level you got your extra attack, 5 warlock/7 paladin would be better. excuse my retardation.
Blade Warlock gets an extra attack at level 5 which stacks with the paladin level 5 extra attack, and you get warlock spell slots which recharge on short rest, so you can smite up to 3 times in a turn and get way more smite charges overall. Paladin and Warlock both scale with charisma too so that’s the only stat you need to max. And you get eldritch blast for ranged if you’re too far to smite.
i don't see the point of 6 lock over 5 lock
Meant for
>paladin/warlock
Removing alignment/race/class restrictions from D&D was a huge mistake.
Warlocks can make a pact with celestial beings
>can dump str for cha
>heavy armor so you can dump dex
the only stats you need are con and cha, it's pretty laser-focused.
another 3rd lvl spell slot.
>another 3rd lvl spell slot.
disregard that I suck cocks.
Warlock 6 level only gets 2 slots.
Yea but that’s on top of the 5 or 6 slots Paladin has at level 7
If you want to melee do paladin 5 first, respec into warlock 5 since you're getting your extra attack from that too and you can drop your STR for CHA only. Proceed with 5 levels of paladin for another extra attack. For maximum memery add 2 levels of fighter on top for action surge.
So it basically depends on whether blade warlock 5 extra attack was patched not to work with regular extra attacks (like it's supposed to) or not. Otherwise just do 3 warlock 9 paladin or something. Or just remain a pure paladin at that point. It really doesn't matter, the game isn't hard enough for it to matter.
6 warlock/Great Old One would also get you the AoE fear on crit to supplement your lacking group control due to the multiclass.
fear doesn't work on a lot enemies in act 2 and 3
I got the lvl1 & 6 class feature mixed up, so it helps more for early game.
lvl6 is the disadvantage reaction which would help your staying power immensely.
doubt. attack rolls are not dangerous at all once you get past the early game. it's unavoidable saving throws that are the most debilitating
Blade pact deepened pact extra attack stacks with pala 5 extra attack?
yeah
I don't know if it still does with the most recent patches but it did a short while ago. It's not supposed to as per TT rules.
Man I was fucking pissed when I respecced at some point, couldn't find an innocent to kill to become an oathbreaker again and act 3 didn't even spawn the goddamn knight. That AoE fear you get as a channel oath ability is fucking great.
All the attacks still stacked as of Sept 4.
Yes, make you respec your stats to charisma when you get the pact blade. Go 5 pal/5 warlock/2 fighter in the final build.
You could still be a cleric of Bane or it was just an early access feature?
All Gods that feature in the game except Selune and Mystra are unavailable. It's pretty irritating, actually.
The dialogue for cleric of Bane/Bhaal/Myrkul/Shar is still in the game files and someone modded it in
Um, sweatie, larian said nothing was cut 😉
>modded cut content
Yeah, I'm just gonna wait for DE if it's all the same to you.
why did they make him look like a square enix exec
Hah. To me he always looked like an amalgamation of every male in Final Fantasy XVI
>we totally did not cut content at the 11th hour, everything is as it's supposed to be and true to our vision, explorable Upper City was totally never a thing
>Gortash, new Archduke of Baldur's Gate, got coronated and stays in a fucking security post outside the city instead of Ducal Palace in the Upper City where Sarevok was about to be coronated back in BG1
I hope the day when Swen is forced to answer for his lies about Upper City will come.
>Karlach worked guarding this guy for fucking years
>Didn't realise he was evil
I mean she literally would have been shadowing him as he walked between the smuggling operations, the evil trenchcoat store, and the Banite secret covens.
Even for 8 INT, that's...pretty shocking. Lmao.
worked guarding this guy for fucking years
If Gortash was not retarded he had regular guards for daytime and blackguards for his covert operations.
>If Gortash was not retarded
Well, he was
>If Gortash was not retarded
anonymous...he allied with orin the red and ketheric thorm...
Actually with Durge, and downright admit that Orin was a retarded psycho he had to put with
He allied with Durge and just accepted Orin when she took over.
Ketheric isn't dumb.
Karlach is the wort part of the game when it comes to writing and the writing quality.
She encourages tiefling kids to become criminals, so her definition of bad is skewed.
The Iron Throne was by far the most fun encounter in this whole game, and I wish they'd done more creative stuff like that than the typical "Kill all of your opponents" meatgrinders. Seeing the hate for that quest though, I get why they didn't.
The hate is mostly due to things that are everpresent in act 3
>bugged NPCs that won't do what they should (stuck fucking gnome morons)
>a trillion of entities present making each turn take forever, and a trillion fishmorons spawning in making it even worse
The timer was kinda annoying if it took you by surprise and you didn't have enough haste potions and dimension door scrolls or similar shit for movement, but it's doable. What didn't help is that I rescued those fucks the first time around and the moment we arrived back at the docks THEY ALL JUST FUCKING DESPAWNED AND I HAD TO DO THAT SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN
Guess I'm lucky I played it after several patches.
>Missing consumables
But that's what made it so fun, at least for me. I had no slot for arcane gate, only 2 potions of speed and a handful of dimensions doors. By the end I was literally throwing the lil gnomes and halflings onto the ladder. And my character died because he wasn't willing to leave anyone behind. Just awesome.
You're not getting genuine moments like that with boring shit like the Bhaalite "detective" plot where you just kill low level doppelgangers every hundred meters.
This. Iron Throne was a fun idea, but holy fucking shit was it bugged as hell. I had to reload like 5 times throughout it because some turns the gnomes would legit just dash then walk two feet before stopping.
I agree the game needed more of such shit but it's clear Larian couldn't make it work if Iron Throne was anything to go by.
>boarding your last party member forces the sub to leave
>all the gnomes have shit initiative
>need to have them all aboard a whole turn before you because there’s no hold action
Thanks larian
The best one is when the gnome dashes and then the line goes across the dash text like he failed to fucking dash or something and he just stands there the entire round. Fucking retard
He tripped. not everyone can be a badass hero, anon
Well he's dead now cause he refused to move for a round while everyone else got on the ladder, fucking retard
If you have a character waiting at the base of the sub they'll climb in when the timer runs out so you don't have to have the gnomes in a turn before.
Can confirm. I literally just did this bullshit today.
The only reason I found out is because I was so fucking mad at the gnomes not doing their full dash distance to the sub that I just let it run out in frustration. Was a "Oh, huh" moment when I saw the cutscene of my last guy climbing in as the throne implodes.
Made redoing it at least 1% more bearable. Still a damn shame it's a good idea gone horrible.
>gnomes run backwards for some reason and don't make it
>Keep redoing it til I get them all
>all the godians are suicidal retards who would misty step next to someone who will wreck their bussy in a few seconds
>AI has a rage boner for the blind fuck in your group and all the steel watch fuckers just jump right over every pole axing sentinel and any other zoning you can possibly have in this shitty game and gank him
Legitimately seething.
Anon...just climb up behind the cells, split your party, and break down the cell walls from behind.
I had thief run down center line to save the most dangerous area first. Then sent totally original, do not steal, origin character wyll take the left and then had Gale just sitting in the middle spamming lightning bullshit down the hallways as needed. The problem is more bad RNG and retarded gnomes more than anything.
Scroll of Dimension Door is sold at Sorcerous Sundries
Pop Haste Spore on everyone turn 1
Wyll twin casts Haste on the martials and then goes invisible (potion) while he runs to Omeleum
I think I cleared it out in 3 turns
This is fine and dandy and would reward you for theorizing and planning out your route.
And then suddenly the gondians start running the complete opposite way and all of your plans go down the fucking drain and you just say fuck it and save scum every turn.
I've only done it 3 times, but I've never seen those bugs.
Lucky you.
I went here before disabling the steel watch so I lacked story context and just let everyone die.
Later when I did do the steel watch the gondians there ask about the iron throne, the dialogue assuming I had already talked to them before going to the iron throne, and they then go hostile after finding out I left everyone to die unless I pass a deception check.
>get to this part.
>get all the workers out with 3 turns still remaining.
>start running back to the ship.
>all of the sudden the game says your party was wiped out and you have to reload despite having 2 turns remaining.
bravo larian
worked on my machine
skill issue
Fucking hated this mission. Left feeling like I failed because although I rescued a bunch of gnomes and held off all the enemies from getting into the main room, they just stood in a square around the bottom of the ladder and would not move up into the sub. Fucking stupid and everyone burned except my party and duke ravengard.
Someone at the top of the ladder with low initiative blocking everyone else probably
Happened to me and I had to shove them out of the way
I hate that quest because it fucking bugs and stops existing if you kill gortash
>Stop the steelwatchers to better deal with Gortash
>go to foundry
>They have our families hostage in the iron throne they'll execute them if we do anything
>go to iron throne
>gortash pops up and says he'll execute everyone in the iron throne if you go there
>ok well
>go kill gortash without dealing with steelwatchers I guess
>entire questline for steelwatcher foundry and iron throne disappear as the submarine is gone and the foundry is blown up
one of the most frustrating parts of act 3. Apparently gortash doesnt end up killing everyone immediately if you go to the iron throne? But the explicity choice of "YES GO AND KILL EVERYONE" vs "LEAVE NOW" was really stupid to give to the player if they didnt actually mean it
Same happened to me.
>meet Gortash
>form weak alliance
>kill Orin
>kill Gortash
>steel walkers and guards attack me everywhere
>go to destroy the steel watcher factory
>fast travel there
>it's already been destroyed, the gnome tells me I have his support
>still I get attacked by Steel Walkers everywhere I go
Nearly every Act 3 quest is bugged to some extent and it makes me not want to even bother finishing the game.
The haunted artist mansion was miserable with how the cursed skulls could throw you noclipping through the wall and the ghosts having what I can only assume is far too high of a stat when resisting being seen by see invisiblity since there's no way they'd make the fight so intentionally of a slog spending turns upon turns failing to break their invisibility.
Most other quests have a lot of breaks in the markers that annoyingly stay up even if you complete it or quests that have bugged dialogue that either imply you did things you didn't or talk about things you did as if you didn't
For the ghost mansion quest, the best approach I found is to fly up to the high balcony from the outside. Going through the inside SUXX
I'm fucking appalled at how many of you turned around because he told you to.
In a game that auto game overs you for fucking around and finding out on a relatively normal basis, there should at least be an insight check to see whether or not he will. Its impossible to actually know the severity to fucking around with someone. Because it could easily be:
>He's lying
>He wont do it IMMEDIATELY
>He'll do it immediately
and you have no way of knowing beforehand. This isnt even a "damn you're stupid/a coward," theres just an objective lack of information with a really impactful downside if you do end up getting the bad end for it. Not to mention killing gortash bugging iron throne isnt intentional and just part of the shitty act 3 experience in general. The dev intent could've easily been to deal with gortash the hard way if you wanted to save everyone but instead they rely on you willing to bet peoples lives with no extra information.
Literally save and keep going
You also get a quest to go there
It's not like attacking Ketheric after he just shrugged off two lethal blows.
moron it is not my job to savescum literally everything in an RPG. The devs fucked up, stop covering for them for free.
If you dont he kills everyone and you just leave anyway
I thought I could go back and use a disguise, but the clever design stopped at act 1
It was actually retarded as fuck that self-disguise didn't work in the Baldur's Mouth too.
Getting the fucking letting in the underground area about the sub just taking off and leaving made me want to flip the table. It's peak bullshit cut content.
How fucking hard is it to provide some other way to deal with the Steel Watchers than to force me to need to bother with two gnome factions, one of which I murdered getting to Act3 and the other one I never have two shits about?
>Could have asked Raphael to take control of the steel watchers if you get to the control room
>Could have asked the Emperor
>Could have come up with something involving Ascended Astarion or his Master
>Could have just gotten all the fucking black pouder barrels from the fireworks workshop
>Could have even tried to ask Mystra or Elmister for fucks sake
You promised me reactivity, Larian. WHERE IS IT?
why the fuck would Mystra or Elmister help you with something as trivial as a factory full of robots? Same with with Raphael and the Emperor, do you just want every powerful character to have an uncharacteristic interest in whatever bullshit dungeon you're getting stuck in? Git gud gay, the factory is your own problem.
>Act3 quests lack reactivity
>NOOOO!! LARIAN DID NOT FUCK UP ACT3, YOU ARE JUST PLAYING THE GAME INCORRECTLY!!
Ok NPCs
who are you quoting?
If you had paid any attention you would understand that none of the options offered would really help you.
Replaying act 1 absolutely ruined the game for me. There's more convos between your companions just walking around the grove than you get in all of act 3. Just ambient stuff like finding the spider egg nest up on that cliff, or Astarion's exsanguinated animal corpses lying around, stuff like that is just absent.
Another victim of scope creep.
Yoshi-P raping your sissy Balls Hurt Gay 3 anus. Final Fantasy 16 won.
No one cares about final farts 16 snoy
>the astral prism is a 20sided die
BRAVO LARIAN
what kind of fucked up party do you have?
i let astarion solo him, didnt even need a speedpotion.
I expected to hate this guy, but he's great. Halsin should have been more like him. Unironically an ""Alpha male"" in every sense and fun to be around. Ulbrig reminds me of campy, tough guys from older crpgs. He literally just likes to kill shit and and drink
This fucking game.always starting convos with my companions IM THE MAIN CHARACTER
>ATTENTION GONDIAN WORKERS
That's pretty good
I never watched Star Trek deep space 9
Can someone explain this meme?
It's kinda funny in the episode because it's a bunch of automated prerecorded messages in an abandoned space station that all start with shit like that, but I'm not sure why it became a meme. Maybe it's just silly because it's the "main villain" doing all those announcements.
Gul Dukat (the guy you usually see in the meme) used to run the space station DS9
The Star Trek A-Team accidently triggers a self destruct sequence programmed in case of a Bajoran (the garden gnomes) uprising
Dukat has a nice voice so he decided to record himself threatening them with death, thus "ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS"
Just arrived at the Wyrms Rock Fort. Should I go to the coronation or does it trigger the fight immediately? I feel I should blow up the Steel Watch place first
No fight
Thanks
The coronarion isnt hostile. Just go and figure it out.
If you karlach in the party you can have her sperg out and then some tard wranglers come haul her away
It’s pretty funny
You get the option to fight him during the coronation but most of your party members will advice you against it. I just beat him there a few hours ago with relative ease. If you are level 11, have a decent chunk of healing potions and use AOE spells in a chokepoint the fight is doable. Apparently killing him during the coronation breaks some quests though since Larian got lazy as fuck with act 3
>not killing gortash with his own bombs
the entire room is a big trap
>get empowered by Bane
>become a big guy
>for you
>If I put on the crown of karsus, would I die?
I had someone pick up them up.
Later on when I went to long rest they all exploded and I was super confused
?
>on tactician
>Start fight with hunger of hudur with party at a choke
>party attacks from surprise and kills a dude right away
>bombs thrown everywhere on the ground but thats fine
>gortash throws some buffs around and the final thing he does is throw up a projectile reflection thing on an ally and steps in the aoe of a bomb.
>Get shadowheart to aoe cleave the bomb and it takes gortash from 300 something to 150 hp, and he's knocked down
>pop a speed potion and get like 4 crits on him
Very underwhelming fight.
>Potion of speed.
You didn't beat the game.
Go back to Elden Ring
>t. never had any friends, never played D&D IRL
sad.
I always wanted to play D&D as a kid but I never knew anyone who would play it with me. Grew up in a small town. Later in life, living in a shitty urban apartment with several roommates, they had a weekly D&D game. Now I'm not above being called a nerd or geek or whatever, but I have some standards. Having a bodyweight within the healthy range, for starters.
Anyway all these guys and girls (I had 7 roommates in this place, 3 story house, small, mostly bedrooms, New England style) were just not my type of nerds. The only good conversations I ever had with them were about FTL, Khan Academy, and lentils. The rest were quite unpleasant. But I eventually agreed to join one of their Friday night D&D games.
I'd never played before so I make a human barbarian, that sounded cool. Two guys make fun of me for my suboptimal choice, I just shrug. Anyway we start going into this crypt looking for the mayor's missing daughter, and some fag casts a spell on the stony entranceway causing it to cave down on all of us. He laughs so hard he throws up on the floor. The DM almost does (I think they were best friends). A girl gets up to grab more beers (hard cider from a growler they got earlier) but trips on her way back and spills them on the floor too.
Never again. D&D, and similar, seems like it would be incredible with the right group of people. But good luck finding them.
>He laughs so hard he throws up on the floor.
That was me
skill issue
>cast Teleport to the enemy lair with 8 brutes holding barrels of explosives
>cast Teleport back, brutes are reading their scrolls of Teleport too just in case of counterspells or other bullshit
>the enemy lair fucking explodes with no survivors
Holy fuck, magic nukes are literally unstoppable.
Is there anyway to change your characters appearance besides shapeshifting? Rolled a half elf bard for my second playthrough and went with the regular built and I don't like how he looks like such a lanklet in light and medium armor.
Yeah, I played a normal body type male human monk and his arms were smaller than mine, and I'm no superhuman monk. You can choose between skinny twink or giant in this game, no inbetween.
I wish they had more body modification options besides lol genitalia, but I guess it would cause clipping issues with their clothing/armor
They're adding the ability to change your appearance pretty soon
mindflayers don’t have souls
the tadpole is a construct that mimics its host’s behaviour
when an elder brain is active, it psionically binds that construct to its will
a mindflayer that is ‘free’ from an elder brain is merely a LARPing machine that doesn’t have to submit to another psionic higher authority
it plays out its host’s desires and fears faithfully, which is why you think that the host’s soul is still there
thats great but thats not how it plays out in the game
it is. withers tells you that illithids have no souls so that’s the only way it makes sense
it doesnt make any sense what so ever because that would imply people regain their souls at the end when you get rid of the tadpole and that you never had any agency.
your soul is only destroyed when you undergo complete ceremorphosis. people with tadpoles still have their souls
Would you say the PCs keep the powers the developed if you choose the good end or would the destruction of the parasites undo any of the changes done to them?
Why the FUCK is this lesbo bitch cunt still in my camp even after her dyke bitch finally fucked off. FUCK OFF.
>respec shart into tempest cleric
>heavy armor, create water, call lightning and Destructive Wrath
easy game
>Respec
You didn't beat the game. Even the devs tell you that cause achievements get disabled if you do that
No they don't.
Besides I pirated it lmaaaayyoooo
Literally one achievement gets disabled
I kekled at this the first time. It was so wild I didn't even guess this was coming next.
uhh
I missed out on so much dialogue because I cheesed every bossfight. My favourite was throwing them in my squad with telekinesis and beat em up before the mob could get to me. Him, Orin and cazador were piss easy because the mob had to pass through small corridors which I littered with AOE crap
>the fights played out like how the devs designed them to
>retard thinks he's super smart for playing along
Retard
I wanted to hear what he had to say doe
Only Ansur was a problem because I HAD to talk first. Took me hours to figure that fight out. In hindsight I should have just stacked barrels
HELL, HELL, HELL HAS IT'S LAWS
HELL, HELL, EFFECTS AND THE CAUSE
CURTAIN FALLS, BUT HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE
SQUIRM, SQUIRM, FOR DOWN HERE COMES THE CLAWS
>tfw the best content in the game is an Act 3 optional zone
No more deals, it's over!
The final act; your doom.
No more grace, it's over!
This House of Hope.. CONSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMES!
this was my favorite moment for a while until i replayed the Myrkul fight on a second playthrough.... that fight is so easy but damn its fucking awesome. myrkul and raphael are the best fights fr fr
>off by one
You deserved it. Maybe the 6's are for you.
For all everyone complains about soullessness in modern games, that fight with that song was a perfect example of soul, independent of the rest of the game.
The entire house of hope was the most obnoxious annoying shit ever. Especially fucking Hope holy shit I wish I could have killed her the first time I spoke to her. Reddit the game
>Start the fight
>4 pillars of making him strong + all those adds
>Feel doomed
>Hope turns the tides with divine intervention
She gave me hope
>motherfucker only has 13 wisdom
>spent the entire fight rolling around on the floor with tasha's laughter
>Rescue her
>No option to tell Raphael he's lost all Hope
wasted opportunity IMO
how the fuck do you save hope? I think Raphael went second and immediately threw her in the trash. I don't see how she can stay alive in that fight unless you can leave her outside or immediately put an invuln orb down
>how the fuck do you save hope?
Just go first and make her leave the room. But this breaks the kino music.
Poor roll of the dice.
what do you even get out of saving her?
I just used her to banish yugir then didn't really care when she died.
The +1d10 force monk gloves
More fucking monk gloves into the trash it goes. This game is just littered with monk pieces cause the class is so trash they have to justify it
>monk is trash
Is that supposed to be impressive?
Given that he can do it like 5 times in one turn, yeah.
Okay but imagine this:
>helmet that gives you infinite menacing attacks
>Assassin 3 so you have sneak attack, crit on surprise, advantage, and regain all your actions spent on the opening attack
>Gloomstalker so your opening attack is even more meaty and you get extra attack
>Orin's shortsword which gets a flat +7 piercing damage just for being yout mainhand weapon
>Bhaalite armor which makes everyone not resistant to pierce vulnerable to it.
>The bow that lets you haste yourself
>The ring that adds 1d4 extra pisonic damage if you're concentrating on something.
Now allow yourself your menacing attack sneak attack auto crit vulnerable status opening of multiple attacks instant gib your enemy and thus activate the cloak that turns you invisible so you can walk out of combat and do the whole thing again.
Based knower.
Cringe powergamer.
Honestly man the Hold Monster spell was all I ever needed for it. Just disable Raphael, his mobs don't have good enough AI to fuck up the spellcaster and break concentration.
Literally killed him in 2 min by throwing his own grenades on him while using cloud of daggers and insect plague
nu-final fantasy looking bro
>Myrkul's Chosen gets skelly form
>Bhaal's Chosen gets slayer form
>Bane's Chosen gets ???
He gets to be big and summon followers
no memeing? is he supposed to cast enlarge person or something? it must have been bugged for me cause he wasn't a big guy for me
No it's just the regular enlarge lol
i must have killed him too fast then..
take his tin man army and he's nothing
literally open your inventory and read, bro
He gets nearly 300 temp HP anon and gets a special attack which lets him do 100-200 aoe damage in melee.
He isn't flashy like Myrkul or Bhaal, but he is strong if you didn't oneshot him.
it didnt trigger for me sadly 🙁
same tbh, was really fun
Bane's chosen becomes a big guy (for you)
Gigantic dong
Cut content, of course.
Being slightly more serious, the intention might have been for an avatar of Bane to still be a "normal" humanoid, just significantly larger, to better suit his idea as a tyrant.
But I think it probably is cut content.
Laezel if she real
RNG is the casual's excuse for not getting good. They'll hold onto it for dear life because they want to feel like good gamers when really they're terrible at actual skillbased gameplay.
>tfw the devil raphel reminds me of myself
>i have ass burgers
What does this mean bros. Should I start devilmaxxing?
Do I miss out on anything if I don't take Raphael's deal and just go to house of hope myself via the ritual
Also
>Bitch gives you a ritual bag
>Doesn't give instructions on how to do the ritual
Hilarious
yeah the ritual book is nonsensical.
>the two points opposite
>on the left is *this*
>on the right is *that*
Woah, did you think I was talking about the first spot? No, I'm talking about those spots I just called empty, you fucking retard!
>being so illiterate that you can't follow simple directions
Having two different ritual instructions is the real problem here.
>say the two points opposite are empty
>then describe putting objects to the left and right
Why the fuck would I assume those objects belong in the "empty" spots?
You read the directions that are there for fluff. You were supposed to read the simplified instructions.
I just assaulted the stronghold head on and it caused the entire second floor to aggro on me... while I was on the first floor. The Steel Watchers were not able to path their way down from there but everybody else was sure able to. Including Gortash. Into the hell of battlefield control spells that I placed inside the very narrow corridor.
Ended up killing him even through his invulnerability bullshit as all the enemies basically funneled into my kill choke.
>The Steel Watchers were not able to path their way down from there but everybody else was sure able to. Including Gortash. Into the hell of battlefield control spells that I placed inside the very narrow corridor.
I had everyone EXCEPT Gortash come down (but I had destroyed the Steel Watch foundry, so it was just the Bainites) on my first run. But Gortash was still part of the initiative tracker, so the camera would freak out on his turns. And the wall trap things.... That encounter was torture.
I tried assaulting from the second floor and whenever you cast a spell a magic user who wasn't even originally agroed would cast counterspell through the floor.
I just went to the roof directly after that and skipped those fights.
>your tadpole, sir.
>Refuse sex with squid gay
>He gets butthurt and threatens to make me a mindflayer against his will
>IMMEDIATELY invade House of Hope and steal the orphic hammer to replace him
How long until I get to break back into the prism, bros? I want to teach this tentacle fuck what it means to threaten me.
>How long until I get to break back into the prism, bros?
Basically it's a scripted event after Act 3 and you cannot miss it.
I killed viconia because she was an obvious tadpoled imposter, my viconia is not evil.
Ganker told me this game is way to easy. Sounds like you just got filtered.
>the very first move he throws a bomb, I throw it back and kill him
kek
i love throwing pipebombs at my adversaries!