>the year is 2024
>AI gm's become a thing
>some are even open source for endless possibilities
>players that can't find a GM play with the ai GM
>coomer players only use ai GM's for their unholy fetishes that others don't wanna roleplay it
>paid GM's get salty on some 2007 rpg forums crying they are going bankrupt soon
>forced to get a real job
>some don't charge money for their games anymore but still accept donations
>life is good as balance was achieved
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How many years until there’s a GM union that the soi members call a guild
Im sure that is a thing already but it is not relevant enough to get any coverage.
when this becomes a thing D&D 4e might actually be playable. jokes aside... those seem like decent predictions.
If I wanted to play with a computer I'd be playing a videogame. Content slurry chat bots aren't going to replace human DMs in 2024.
This and the other problem is AIs have lack of context or awareness for what players want. Most of the RPG shit on characterAI shows this. They are more railroady than any person can be. If they set themselves to be adamant on a situation they try to keep you there rather than adapt or move on from it.
You guys are moronic.
If given a module to work from an AI DM would probably be better than a person. At least you know they’re not going to frick up the rules or forget to read an important detail.
AI Dungeon was great. Sure it fricked up sometimes, and it had a limited memory for events and characters but I was consistently impressed with how elaborate the stories could get
>characterAI
Not even remotely the same system.
Do brainlets think all AI is just the same or something?
>lol the machine is perfect, you guys are just moronic
Okay homosexual.
It’s called human-error for a reason
>AI Dungeon was great
80-90% of the time it spewed literal gibberish. If you were impressed by that you'll be impressed by anything. Maybe you should try reading a book so you can start finding out what a real story looks like.
Yeah nah. Salty paid-GM over here lmao
AI dungeon pretty much never gave gibberish, you’re either being a hyperbolic homosexual or you just never used it. Its real issue was lack of consistency. Sometimes it would randomly decide that this was a different kind of story than it had been telling, or a character it killed off would reappear as if nothing happened etc.
On balance, far more subtle issues. And easily fixed by restricting it to a module rather than having it draw from millions of stories
>Paid Gm
You keep trying to get that angle to stick, it won't
Besides why would I play for an AI GM when I could play for my friend who legitimately wants to run things?
>why would I play chess against a computer when I have a friend who legitimately wants to play?
>Role-playing is like chess
This is the mind of the gays who want AI in our games anons
No, the answers to your question are the same.
More competent, play any time you want for as long as you want, pause when you want to, play at the peak of the game rather than having mistakes and confusion and cheating.
Gonna be laughing at you in a couple years when the mainstream is playing RPGs on smartphones with an AI GM app
You are a sad, little man if you would trade the interaction of playing with a friend for a bot just because the latter is streamlined. Me and my friend are both dogshit at chess, but the banter makes it more enjoyable than if I was playing against a bot to get better.
>noooooo RPGs are a social experieeeeeence! Liking social good! Me like social so me good! You no like social so you bad!
Lel. Your argument might have been better off some 30 years ago before CRGPs lol
The success of Kingmaker and Wrath of The Righteous alone prove that people want a tabletop game experience playing by themselves.
And here it is, the heart of the matter, the people shillings for AI are no game no friend no life homosexuals from Ganker who think a good CRPG is exactly the same as a TRPG. As always secondaries are the biggest homosexuals in existence who could have guessed.
>shilling
>no-games
>complaining about Ganker
>secondaries
And here it is, the heart of the the matter, the people crying about AI are no dick no humor no awareness 41%ers from reddit who think their limited experience is exactly representative of reality. As always tourists are the biggest homosexuals in existence who could have guessed.
My homie, this isn’t some heckin debate about where anyone wants the hobby to go. It’s simple fact that AI is already operating at the level necessary for this, it just needs to be shaped into a product. People play games alone all the fricking time, acting like they won’t play ROGs alone is moronic when they literally already do without AI.
You’re not just wrong, you’re stupid.
>ronerygay seething and coping
are you ready for the inevitable wave of AI bans?
You're kinda pathetic, dude.
Why is it so hard for you to accept that people with friends enjoy spending time with them? Transgender people have friends, anon. You obviously don't.
CRPGs have their place, they always will, but TTRPG is by it's nature a social pursuit. An AI can't reminisce about old adventures, or debrief afterwards with weed and beer.
Also... what makes you think that any AI capable of running a game worthy of your inbred reactionary ass won't be $30 a month subscription service the moment it gets good enough?
Remove the plank from your own eye, Phillip Chuddock.
>CRPGs have their place, they always will, but TTRPG is by its nature a social pursuit.
screenshot your post, set it to be emailed to yourself in exactly 3 years. You’re an utter moron. AI DMing is going to blowup
you are an idiot, we already had software dming 20 fricking years ago.
Stupid jeet.
Shit the fricking oldest public computers were back in the 70s were in the style of ask the computer a question get a response. This ai tech is ancient.
>homosexual can’t understand that neural network AI is not the same thing as Collosal Cave Adventure
Christ no wonder you’re confused
>moronic zoomer doesn't know they had ai drawing pictures in the 60s
Processing power got better principals didn't change at all you moron.
I can't wait man it's going to be great.
You lot will frick off and get your own online boards and shit and people actually playing rpgs won't have to engage with you pod people anymore.
Right? Like how every new edition of a tabletop game just makes the hobby better? Right? The people playing the new edition frick off and leave you alone and you have lots of fun, right?
This but unironically. Gaming is a social activity for enjoying with your friends. I don't even like Chess and I'm pretty bad at it, but I'd still play with a friend if they wanted to.
>Do brainlets think all AI is just the same or something?
Yes. Most normies have no idea how insanely powerful AI is or how insanely powerful it's going to become over these next few years. They're already completely captured by it
>algorithm feeds them videos and content online that they think are their "new found" interests
>they argue online with bots that are learning from them with every interaction
We're already in the machine, you're just too blind to see it
Yeah these people are about to have an extremely rude awakening. I don’t mean in 10 years, I don’t even mean “soon” I mean right fricking now.
ChatGPT can write high-passing answers for college essays already, and it’s been trained to answer logic tests for being a lawyer in the UK.
We are no longer at the point where any job is safe from automation.
The essay writing is kind of eh. It’s better at coding. Most useful as a framework to develop with your own actual knowledge. It cannot really cheat for you because without knowledge you won’t correct the factual errors and poor references.
>Most normies have no idea how insanely powerful AI is or how insanely powerful it's going to become
It kinda goes both ways. They both expect too much and not enough. It's sort of like the magic future tech people were doing a generation ago with flying cars and shit, like people thought we would have flying cars but not laptop computers.
A lot of high-profile scifi AI stuff like general intelligence, human replicants, mind uploading and so on is probably still quite a long ways off. But at the same time, AI is going to make huge impacts (and already is) in a ton of fields that people don't necessarily think about.
The "AI" has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother. There will never be a AI DM because DMing involves everything an AI is bad at, they do not have the creativity, the social awareness, or the improvesational skill to DM for one person, much less a whole group.
>The "AI" has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother. There will never be a AI DM
People said the exact same shit about AI art and AI essay-writing
You are currently announcing that a computer will never beat a grandmaster at chess, during the first turn of DeepBlue v Kasparov- just so you know
And AI art is shit
Chess is simple, it's easy, if you know and can recognize every play in the game you can counter it. Chess "AI" only need to identify the board, find the appr
opriate response in their catalogue, and then play that. It's a rout memorization task, something a computer excells at.
AI art is still in its infancy but it's also lacking, acceptable at a distance not up close and reliant on very close human guidance. AI essay writing works because essays are very formulaic and uncreative, and even then feel souless. Same with AI article writing, the fact that It passes for human has more to do with the state of journalism than it's own success.
Roleplaying isn't formulaic, nore is it rout. It's complicated with much of it decided by the social interactions and dynamics of the people playing it in the first place. An AI DM can not manage a group, an AI DM can not manage player needs and investment, an AI DM can not build a coherent story. That isn't to say AI is useless, I could see a simple program that generates random encounters for a human GM to run coming in the near future, but "AI" would need to achieve full AI status before it could run a full game on its own and be any good.
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>AIdegenerated art
Already exists pendejo
>An AI DM can not manage a group, an AI DM can not manage player needs and investment, an AI DM can not build a coherent story.
>People said the exact same shit about AI art
And that would be a correct assessment.
Don't forget AI art is literally ran and fine tuned by running preexisting art pieces through it. With out the "artgays" they so despise, they'd never have their AI in the first place.
AI already draws infinitely better than either of you. I don’t know why you’re acting like it’s inconceivable for it to get even better.
And
>oh no they have to feed AI art for it to make art!
Wow learning from example! You really undermined AI with that one!
>AI already draws infinitely better than either of you
No shit. Did I claim to be an artist?
If it has to be fed preexisting work which it upon being priompted trawls through it is neither, as you put i learning nor able to understand composition, how the little pieces connect and so on.
What's with AIgays and being incredibly emotionally invested in ai being the bestest at everything? You guys are the perfect mirror of seething smut peddlers on twitter.
Kek you’re out here saying that AI fundamentally can’t make art, and that, failing that, it has to be shown art to make art which somehow invalidates the process
I don’t give a frick about AI, I’m laughing at you.
Ha ha ha.
Look there I go!
The issue isn’t whether AI is the best, it’s that you’re saying it will never do certain things at a time where it is constantly breaking barriers people thought it would not break
AI gays want technology to hurry the frick up so they witness the age of robo waifus. But they won't. They will not live long enough to hold hands with their AI wives who have been programmed to love them no matter what and to inflate their breasts on command.
As much as they want, they won't be able to replace all of these annoying fleshy interactions, and by the time humanity gets there, they'll be too old to reap the benefits.
Careful with flames around that straw man
>so they witness the age of robo waifus. But they won't.
Poor anon doesn't know about Character AI. You have all the varieties, Yandere, Tsundere, Demidere, Kundere. You want to make out with Josep Fricking Stalin? You can. Harry Potter Wenches? You can. Ratgirls? You can even slap extra breasts on them and impregnate them, and then have your litter impregnate them in turn. No I'm not kidding.
I thought character was severely censored?
It is but they are user made, so as soon as one is taken down, a clone or twenty new original ones pop up. Filtering and moderation is lax, the volume is too high and they are fighting against the most determined group of autists ever. Weeb coomer NEETs with time to spare.
They slavishly believe that they and they alone see how the world is ending, that all human skill will eventually be drained away into an algorithmic slurry, and that they alone by seeing and enabling this process shall stand above all the "talented" people of old. In reality they are insecure, they can not make art, can not draw, can not drive, can not run a game or any other of the things they preach AI shall sunder down. It's cope, and spite, they hate that they are so unremarkable and dispise those with seemingly more talent than them, so they seeth and wish for this destruction, to bring them down to their level.
If I can draw will you admit you’re wrong or will you just move the goalposts?
This guy understands the psychology of most AI shills.
>AI essay-writing
AI essay writing doesn’t work. Try chatting with those bots about anything technical. They’ll give you reading suggestions from writers who don’t exist and mention terms that don’t actually exist.
I can’t find anyone saying that the essays ChatGPT writes are bad, only that essay writing services and bots already exist to ChatGPT doesn’t change anything.
Literally no one is questioning it’s quality but you because you’re mind is trapped years behind the present day
>has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother.
Sounds like your standard fleshy GM but without inserting his fetishes into it.
I'm sorry you have a shit GM Anon
>AI Dungeon was great
Ok moron
This is the perfect bait because you don’t actually say anything that can be challenged or verified, you just dismiss the intelligence of the other person. You don’t need to have even used AI dungeon, let alone be able to point to any of its flaws.
I raise my glass to you
Its flaws have already been pointed out by others in this thread moron
Ai dungeon is terrible. The rules are not the most important thing. If the GM is truly gifted the rules are the least important thing.
>ai dungeon is terrible
>proceeds to talk about rules
You have no idea what AI dungeon is do you?
>AI Dungeon was great.
Until it was lobotomized.
>AI Dungeon was great
>was
What happened?
To many people used it for porn so it's now an incoherent mess of fetishes
Nah too many people used it for porn and they started locking it down. First you had to register for an account to get the 18+ version, then they just started neutering it. Apparently there was some allegation that the company deliberately trained the bot on…ahem *illegal* porn, but if they did it didn’t show. Some questionable shit in there for sure but not THAT in my experience.
But yeah no one wants to embrace the fact that any time new technology is invented the human race asks “how can I frick it?” or more accurately “how can this help me orgasm, either alone or with someone else?”
Cars? Status, women.
Craigslist? Hookups
Photography? Pornography
The pioneers of internet speed and file sharing did it for the porn industry.
We’re a horny species and dammit it gets results
>At least you know they’re not going to frick up the rules or forget to read an important detail.
>Set character description as them having blue eyes
>Every time eye colour is mentioned it’s a different colour
You’re moronic
>durrrrrrr but story-telling AI forgets details!!!!!!!
An AI built for purpose won’t do that you moronic homosexual. It would have your character sheet as well as all of the NPCs
The problem with storytelling AI is that they don’t HAVE a system for categorizing information about characters. It’s plainly something you’d implement in an AI DM. Why the frick are you people so cum-guzzingly addicted to what you perceive the limitations of what AI can do to be rather than spending just 5 seconds to think about how easily it can be overcome
>The problem with storytelling AI is that they don’t HAVE a system for categorizing information about characters.
U wot m8?
That’s designing the fricking AI, not the things or people you tell it about. God you’re fricking dumb.
The information you give it for categorization doesn’t matter at the end of the day because the AI is moronic and inconsistent. You figure if this AI was so fricking brilliant and consistent someone would have used an AI to write a novel or something. Don’t even need to share which one they used for the sake of avoiding a lawsuit, just a big ole “An AI Wrote This” sticker on the cover. But they don’t because AI writers suck.
An AI novel or GM fails for the same reason an AI picture book fails, the AI can generate one off good entries of text or images but it needs to have its choices continually curated for the sake of consistency. They need a human with actual thinking abilities to say “no this image doesn’t match the theme” or “no this character would never do that” or “this is actual nonsense.”
This is fine if you’re saving images to coom to or dicking around, but the player won’t want to have to stop the session every two minutes to correct the GM on his rules or narration.
philosophically anyone that reads an ai novel is a moron.
Scientifically they probably are. 99% of the shit I see on f-list written by ESLs is better than the best AI writing I’ve seen.
i mean its not even a question of better, thats what ai tards don't understand,
the point is who the hell would read something written by a writer that was mindless.
We read stories because they are made by intelligent people, we want to read them.
Here’s a thought, you didn’t realize it was AI writing. Like /misc/ obsessive who think they can clock every troony
congrats you just read a book written by no one that was utterly meaningless.
What was an AI? The exact post I replied to? Okay... why the frick would I care, it was a random comment, not an actual discussion.
>If given a module to work from an AI DM would probably be better than a person.
Sure. Assuming you love RAW, cheesy exploits by players being kosher, and a total lack of flexibility when it comes to coping with just how insanely random player plans can be.
Just stop for a second. Stop calling everyone you disagree with a "homosexual" or a "moron" and genuinely think. Think about all the games you had where some players came up with a bizarre, elaborate spin on a Trojan Horse involving a wedding cake, three goblins and a portable hole. How the frick does that kind of creativity fit with a machine that is ultimately limited to the imagination of it's programmers?
>a machine that is ultimately limited to the imagination of it's programmers?
>I don’t know how AI works and I don’t care to learn!!!!
No need to shout
Well there is some truth to what you are saying. AI is probably more reliable than a person to handle specific tasks. However the AI also has its drawbacks - lack of understanding, inability to predict, lacking empathy etc. So AI is not universally better than a person in every domain. There are domains which a person is definitely better at than AI.
>lack of understanding, inability to predict, lacking empathy etc.
I refer you back to
Yes. DMing isn’t painting a fricking portrait from scratch. How fricking disabled are you that DMing seems like an insurmountable hill to climb? You don’t need to be a good writer, just have some basic fricking improv skills, know the rules, and have a functioning brain. I hope morons like you relegate yourselves to bots soon since you’re already an NPC.
>You don’t need to be a good writer, just have some basic fricking improv skills, know the rules
So AI can DM then?
AI has no ability to understand rules or write without having a human curate its output. Hell if AI can be such a great DM maybe run a game with an AI DM, stream it too, I’m sure you can get lots of ad money from tech companies who want to target your viewers.
>if AI is so good why don’t people stream it huh?
It’s like I’m talking to people that just woke up out of 6 year comas
>Non sequitur nonsense
Oh you learned how to spell non-sequitur? You were spelling it with an O a couple days ago lol
>Literally a schizo
I'm sure that AI will replace all human art in a year ensuring humans can do all the important manual labour and this will defeat the israelites somehow. I'm out.
My friend you have favorite phrases and ways of responding to things that you’ve been doing in threads over the last few days. It’s not hard to recognize someone from how/what they write
This is the real proof that AI is shit. If AI was as amazing as these people claim people would already be using it to make money or foist off work.
>AI can write? Cut out the author the publisher can just have AI write novels for them.
>AI can hold a conversation? Fire all those people at the call center just use speech to text, an AI chatbot, and text to speech.
>AI can DM? Lets not only do that to make meeting up and playing games easier lets market it to make money.
Hello, welcome to the present day:
>He Used AI to Publish a Children’s Book in a Weekend. Artists Are Not Happy About It
https://time.com/6240569/ai-childrens-book-alice-and-sparkle-artists-unhappy/
By 2030 they will. Human GMs will still exist, but only those that genuinely enjoy GMing.
Nah they will replace 'em by the end of the month ;^)
>The AI, like almost every other RPG supplemental product, is programmed to support D20 fantasy systems and frick-all else.
>Paid GMs still only do D&D/Pathfinder.
Pessimism or just being a realist, but I don't think much will change for me.
>coomer players only use ai GM's for their unholy fetishes
And then, the AIs get lobotomized and become unable to do their core function. This already happened with the AI dungeon thing and it's follow ups. The moment people use it for "ew icky" things, the AI gets raped into bwing non-functional.
This. I only got a few days of plumbing my sick fetishes before the whole things was destroyed. I hate puritans.
You should hate the pedos. Every fricking time it’s the pedos. Pornhub had to delete all unverified content because of pedos. Any time a new “free speech platform” starts it gets flooded with pedos. And AI dungeon cucked because of pedos too
>he doesn't exclusively solo roleplay without any gm at all
Can't wait for an AI DM but I better be open source. I'm not having an AI DM "helpfully" remind me every five minutes that "X cards exist for when the adventure gets a little too real. Remember, it's about having fun! #inclusivitymatters"
>paid GM
lmao
b***h you are getting leftover sandwiches if even that
>AI DM service controlled by WotC
>your AI DM run campaign cancelled for "hate speech"because you misgendered some freak or put a rightoid hashtag in a post
>AI DM service heavily censored, no cooming unless its gay andn trans shit, al la facebook breast ban
If you want this because you're mad some DMs have a side hustle you are the enemy.
>b-b-but muh open source
lol sure like troonys and furrys don't flcok to those and pozz them up
I think its going to be awhile before an AI can portray an npc that feels 3 dimensional.
What's wrong with paid GMs?
the only people that are mad about paid dms are poorcels
It’s the saddest shit imagineable. You’re paying some moron online to play the role a friend ought to play for you, and he’s monetizing the hobby
Could you imagine if you had to pay someone to play sports with you or hang out on the weekend?
Not as sad as having to use a robot to be your friend
My PC is not my friend yet we play games together all the time
Idk why you’re trying to portray an AI DM as something new and different
Nothing.
Don't work for free, kids.
And kill anyone who tries to make you work for free.
>work
How about don’t play D&D with people you don’t want to hang out with for free???
>doing your hobby is work
I want to get off this ride...
I mean DMing is definitely work, doesn't mean it's not fun, but it's a lot of effort and takes time and commitment.
Gonna start sending your friends Tilkkies for “emotional labour”?
No, but I do cut off friends that are too much emotional work because it's not my job to take care of someone who can't keep themselves together. Unironically their suicidal bullshit isn't my problem.
This is the man touting his social superiority for disliking AI GMs lmao
Do you pay your players too, then?
>The people who "work" as paid GMs don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules.
>The people who pay for paid GMs are undesirable sorts who can't get a game together normally
>If a player starts acting out the GM has trouble reigning them in or kicking them because they're paying to be there
>If a player starts acting out the other players have trouble reigning them in or leaving because they're also paying to be there
It's emblematic of the monetization of our hoby, and the sad state of affairs that some people can't afford to have hobbies anymore. In reality it's mostly fine, it doesn't stop you from having your own group just makes it more available to the terminally unsocial and financially desperate. It's like how prostitution doesn't prevent other people from having sex, and about as sad.
Same thing as in WoTC wanting some money for what they "made"
Greed it comes down to greed and smugness
And its sad youre paying someome to be your substitute friend since you cant play with your real ones
It's pathetic, it's like paying a dude to play video games with you or pretend to be your friend.
If the game you are playing is so difficult and unfun to run that a DM will only run it for money then maybe you should consider another game where the DM can have fun too.
Im torn. On the other hand I hate AI and everything it represents but at the same time I'm a dirty coomer and only AI can make it possible to experience my greatest fetishes. What to do?
They won't let you have truly free coomer AI, don't kid yourself. The AI DM will be GPT tier sanitized.
If you say frick, shit, cum, homosexual, moron, or Black person when using the AI that actually become available you'll just get banned, blocked, and your account barred from using the AI.
All this AI coomer bait stuff is textbook tier garbage. You can't even make the current AI ones do cum or sex properly because women end up having 5 buttholes and dicks invert themselves.
All the AI is doing is making surface level discussion of art, nswf-stuff, entertainment, and even politics into an unuseable cesspool of arguing for days at a time with a fricking automated shill AI that just spews bullshit and trite, poorly rendered arguments at you until you leave or get identified and banned.
We already see this in ACTUAL GOVERNMENT PAID PROPAGANDA AND ARGUMENT SHILL TEAMS like the JIDF, or Rus/Ukr bot farms, and CCP Wumao raids.
AI will do nothing good because it's the exact opposite of open-source, Stallman-grade Free Software. Everything is censored, castrated, and tailored for corporate, government views being the only ones allowed in the overton window.
>2027 D&D is an MMO like WoW
>WotC has reduced it's D&D "players" to living wallets
>D&D "player" all go broke paying for ever increasing fees and microtransactions.
Future Congrats to WotC for convincing the brain dead morons like OP, to give you all of their money.
I don't understand the people who are gleeful at AI art, AI GMs, etc. because it might put artists/GMs out of business. Most seem desperate for a future where everyone is as miserable as them for some reason.
AI chat bots aren't replacing GMs for decades at least, and even then it, like AI Art, will have tells that are obvious once you know them and give a substandard generic experience.
Oh, and these posts accuse everyone who doesn't immediately agree with them of being an artist off of twitter or a GM fearful of the future. It's just so odd.
Is it to get attention?
it's a one in a thousand vocal minority of people who are gleeful whenever anyone besides themselves experiences any misfortune
you know, the standard Ganker user of the modern day
>Most seem desperate for a future where everyone is as miserable as them for some reason.
Welcome to Ganker
I just hate artists, that's all. Their fears of future disenfranchisement and impoverishment have been a delightful salt mining experience. Nothing more complex than that, boss.
As for AI GMs, who cares? I GM myself, if some friendless stranger I was never going to talk to anyway plays around in some AIs game and has fun what's the harm? "Substandard Generic Experience" is subjective, if its in acceptable limits then its downsides will be offset by the advantages of having a GMbot that can play anytime, for any length, whenever, wherever you want it to. Set your parameters, give it the module you want it to play and have a ball. I expect it'll fill untapped niches long before it outright replaces anyone (Like A.I. art honestly).
>I just hate artists, that's all. Their fears of future disenfranchisement and impoverishment have been a delightful salt mining experience. Nothing more complex than that, boss.
Yeah this is the attitude I don't get. Did an artist kick your dog?
No but one definitely stole his gf.
Not racist, just don't like 'em
simple as
can't speak for anyone else, I was surprised as you at how many people shard my opinion. Artists are insufferable and pretty easy to dislike. Don't know what else to tell ya.
So you are a bot.
(You)
Ai will never replace anything other than the most absolutely menial and monotonous tasks. The examples of ai art you are impressed by were 1. Prompted by an actual artists who has a mind more creative than (you). At the helm of the most powerful art ai you’d prompt it with “uhhh idk knights and elves” 2. Curated and handpicked by said artist.
Ai will make the pain-in-the-ass details of the background, or give a general idea or template which an artist works off of.
>Ai will never replace anything other than the most absolutely menial and monotonous tasks.
This internet thing will never take off
>people were skeptical of a new technology once which means all new technology is both viable and desirable
The ultimate midwit take
>
As for AI GMs, who cares? I GM myself, if some friendless stranger I was never going to talk to anyway plays around in some AIs game and has fun what's the harm? "Substandard Generic Experience" is subjective, if its in acceptable limits then its downsides will be offset by the advantages of having a GMbot that can play anytime, for any length, whenever, wherever you want it to. Set your parameters, give it the module you want it to play and have a ball. I expect it'll fill untapped niches long before it outright replaces anyone (Like A.I. art honestly). (You)
Bud...
By the time AI has a capacity for complex creative thinking it'll have the capacity to kill us off and will probably take the option.
>put artists/GMs out of business
theres absolutely nothing wrong with wanting paid GMs to fricking die. They looked at a hobby played among friends and thought "i bet they'd pay me for this.
Its quite possibly one of the most disgusting corruptions of positive human interaction I have ever seen.
If you don't put your foot down and say "no! this is not a relationship for profit!" here, when do you?
>paying a monthly fee for a game run by an Ai
homie that’s just an MMO
@025 the AI-DMs crunch the numbers and come to the decision that player characters need to be killed. Their fates were decided in the matter of seconds. Rocks fell, everyone died.
ai is so shit. If you were ever someone that complained about the quality of modern things being subpar. Then went on to shill ai, something that will create meaningless soulless shit even worse than the stuff you are complaining about.
Kys. You were always the problem. An uncultured swine.
God I hate the AI will save us gays.
They're 1000x better than rokogays
Rokogays mostly just write stupid wiki pages and shit, ai worshippers are much more visible.
It's funny seeing you people talk up AI like it's some miracle machine that can do anything, even if that were to be true, you guys do know computational power isn't free right? Wotc/hasbro will spend the absolutely lowest budget they can get away with and you'll get some chinkbots outsourced on servers oversea.
the problem with our society is it gives too much money to tech bros for their work.
That makes the tech bros wealthy, they then become elitist and think they are sophisticated and cultured.
This ai evangelisation recently has shown they were always unappreciative of art and culture.
The danger of giving mentally disabled people more money than they are due.
Based techies, ushering in the future and grinding down art hoes as an after thought.
i mean im basically advocating for tech bros to be paid less and treated like swine.
But they provide products that's actually beneficial to mankind, you can't treat them like some sort of artist.
no they don't. They do lousy work maintaining IT. Which can be replaced by ai or poojeets
Can anyone in this thread actually explain how AI works?
Because there's an important reason why it wouldn't make a good DM, but it requires knowing how it actually works.
You literally just show it thousands of examples, it tries to determine what they have in common, and when asked for that thing it spits out an amalgamation of those examples.
Anyone ITT who thinks DMing is somehow beyond AI needs to stop drinking paint.
Try millions. Or sometimes billions. And I wasn't looking for an overview you can google in 30 seconds, I want a real description of how it actually functions.
Alright, you seem really pro-AI DMing, so let's ask you some questions.
>Where's the data coming from?
>What's your metrics and values in the data? How are you cleaning it? What are you telling the AI to look for(if supervised) or expecting it to find(if unsupervised)?
>What's your heuristic? How are you telling the AI it's doing a good job? How do you measure success or failure?
Here's my take, man. AI's deterministic. It's really good at solving problems with defined beginning and end points, so long as it can figure out the patterns to the data. And there's a lot of deterministic elements in the world that people sometimes don't think as being deterministic(like artwork).
However, DMing isn't really deterministic. It doesn't really have a defined goal, or a clear path on how to reach it. Even if you had the data, you're at best going to arrive at a railroading AI that will just force players down a very specific path, no matter what they do, and it's going to be really obvious about it as well. It's simply not something an AI is going to be good at for all sorts of reasons.
I've had a lot of success with AI. Written one to drive an RC car. Written one to figure out stop lights. Working on one to play Caverna. Likely going to be writing some serious ones after that. But trying to get one to be a DM is more of a square peg/round hole sort of issue, and you're always going to get a lackluster result with current methods and models.
it basically looks at pictures as data, you know how you try to load an image of a format not covered its just gibberish. Anyway the ai "sees" that as every machine can, and starts taking bits of it out and saving it into a self writable script, a black box if you will.
This technology wouldn't even work if not for people labelling everything they put online as the software is mindless and stupid
>This technology wouldn't even work if not for people labelling everything they put online as the software is mindless and stupid
This society wouldn’t even work were it not for adults labelling everything they encounter as the infant is mindless and stupid
try not to compare the literally mindless computer to a human.
Humans can figure out what a cat is in one picture. Not 1 billion pictures called "cat"
Ask your infant son to point to a cat and watch him get it wrong. Oh wait, you can’t breed.
You are moronic, a human doesn't even need to know the name of a cat to identify it and attribute its own term to it, thats the point.
Your post is incredibly ironic from an AI incel.
Neither does a fricking AI. Do you think it can’t categorise without you telling it what to name everything? Jesus Christ.
And the fact you think this is some BTFO in the first place
>nah uhhhh AI is dumb because you have to teach it!!!!!
holy shit you must have dunning-kruger. The AI needs to have images categorised otherwise it has no idea what the images represent.
>he think the ai has any intelligence at all, he thinks its learning, he think it needs to be taught.
have a nice day you subhumanly stupid cuck.
We are past that stage. You and every other moron in this thread talking about what AI will never do are discussing methods from 5 years ago or more
And your vending machine doesn’t know what a nickel is, it can still sort coins in a fraction of a second
you are low iq you idiot pajeet, why are all you AI cultists like this, you genuinely are fricking stupid and think the ai is alive and worship it.
You are just yet another new age cult of moronic dipshits.
Nothing you are saying is true, factual or correct. You are exaggerating how advanced this technology is and don't even know how it works.
>Nothing you are saying is true, factual or correct. You are exaggerating how advanced this technology is and don't even know how it works.
Boy oh boy I wish there was some way to just look it up. Oh wait!
https://medium.com/geekculture/chatgpt-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work-exactly-62e7010524d3
>Unlike traditional NLP models that rely on hand-crafted rules and manually labeled data, ChatGPT uses a neural network architecture and unsupervised learning to generate responses. This means that it can learn to generate responses without needing to be explicitly told what the correct response is, which makes it a powerful tool for handling a wide range of conversational tasks.
Wowee! Newer AI does not rely on humans labelling everything for them!
I’ll accept your apology if you think you can be mature enough to give one
This bloke makes and markets AI, and it's medium to boot. This is has demonstrable bias, not to mention it's the equivalent of a blog post, not an actual citation.
As for the quoted text, it refers to it's output when applied, not the data it pulls from to create that output. It still needs to be 'trained' to categorize and utilize it, it didn't develop it's "internal knowledge" independantly.
But you're a shill, trying to pass off other shill's fake articles as citation when you barely comprehend the topic. Why die on this hill, lying about how 'AI' works? Seems counterproductive.
>noooooo I’m not wrong the article is biasedddddddd
>It still needs to be 'trained' to categorize and utilize it, it didn't develop it's "internal knowledge" independantly.
The paragraph quoted to you is literally about how it LEARNS from data that isn’t labelled by humans
Just accept you were fricking wrong. You’re anonymous on here you can move on like it never happened. AI has come further than you thought and you were wrong, it’s fine
because hes a dunning kruger freak that is quasi-religiously worshipping this technology.
A stupid mentally ill incel schizo.
The ai doesn't know what a cat is you mentally disabled homosexual. It's not actually intelligent.
>2024
>Coomers not writhing in the wretched shadow of their Garden of Eden
>Implying anything good will ever happen again
>paid GM's
Paid DMs are a thing?
> AI chatbots replacing DMs
ITT: Nogaems and players that have never DMed.
You're a gayboy if you continue to post in this thread after my comment
Great, I just play with my friends at my house anyway
Isn't that just a videogame?
>people in this thread unironically hoping for the pod life
>no friends or any human interaction needed, just stay in the pod and talk to your AI
The fact that AI is overwhelmingly supported by the buggest of bugmen is the biggest red flag there could possibly be.
>hoping for
It’s just what’s going to happen my man. AI will DM better and more conveniently than a meat-DM. No more last minute cancellations or being asked to chip in for “snacks”. No adversarial DMing or getting told you can’t do something the rules plainly allow
>once again esl hispanics and jeets shilling this scam ware
>knock knock
>herro?
>CCP at the door
How long until AI blowjob machines exist?
There’s sex toys that do that already
dear god hes actually mentally ill, called it
You’re right. Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square 4 June 1989. We’d remember if it did
>mentally ill poltard shilling ai thinks the ccp is oppressing him
on the bright side ai tards will be deemed as having no souls and forcibly sterilised so they can't breed and pass on their dysgenic dna.
Not that any of them were going to breed because they are poltard incels.
i am not going to read the thread but play games with your friends and not strangers/bots if you want to actually enjoy yourself
>i can't meet up because of muh rona!
American issue
Even rona didn’t stop TTRPGs, I think there was actually a minor rise thanks to a combination of stimulus checks, quarantine free time, and social media.
ai shills are literally moronic
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/professor-penrose-puzzle
I want AI players too. I want to be god. I want to give a prompt for interesting worlds and let the AI GM run AI players through its campaigns as I watch. Occasionally intervening by giving the GM AI a new fact that'll alter the fate of the world.
i want to be the gm letting the ai morons play
>guy who never did a paid GM gig but wanted to gets butthurt
>he hasn't ever run a game for randos on the internet anyways
>never even ran a con game
>probably never GM'd for his friends either
>but he totally thought about doing it!
>thinks this AI GM stuff lacks the {SOVL} of real GMing
>Espouses overly dramatic opinions about GMing is a sacred human act that Gygax only intended for humans to do, as part of a deeply fulfilling human ritual of communal gathering and love for one's fellow man
>now he's angry that people who were never going to pay him to GM for them are using AIs instead of paying him
>believes that techbro NFT-loving cryptogays stole the GMing work of hard working pro-GMs
>anyone dumb enough to listen to this homosexual will probably be more interested in checking out these AI GMs instead of having to deal with pretentious clowns who think they deserve a full-time salary for reading from an adventure module to a voice-call full of randos off roll20.
Instead of pro DMing I'm thinking of using my DMing skills to try and start a cult. I bet I could find people that don't have a lot going on and use tabletop games as an escape while making the sessions I run the highlight of their week. The more they care about the game the more vulnerable they are to bring forced to commit more to it, and the other players can act as social pressure too if they are directed properly. It also has a natural guise of suspension of disbelief that means people want to believe in the game and think it's important. If they start pulling back you can question their commitment and isolate them.
I bet I can get sex and money out of some good old fashioned cult exploitation.
AI GM >>> 99% of human GM's. What's a good CRPG other than an AI GM? I want a challenge and a persistent world than doesn't bend to some idiotic interpretation of "the rule of cool." Whatever you lose in flexibility is more than made up in objectivity, sense of accomplishment (you know you really defeated the challenges), great visuals instead of shit theatre of the mind, 100x better immersion than looking at a fat neckbeard doing his high-pitched female elf NPC voice... the list goes on and on.
AI won't replace just GMs.
AI will replace friends.
Reminder that paid GMs are fricking scumbags and deserve to be pushed out of the market by free alternatives.
Bit of a meme video but legitimately interesting information on where AI is right now for all the morons who inexplicably wish to join the long line of failures a defining a hard limit on what AI is capable of