>They feel like they immediately have to explain what makes these guys different from Scions

>They feel like they immediately have to explain what makes these guys different from Scions
Maybe a sign we didn't really need these guys

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus fucking christ they're really going after the Call of Duty tacticool crowd with the Imperium now aren't they? Could've at least expanded on the Gue'vesa lore if they wanted to appeal to those people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kasrkin have literally always looked like that you absolutely pitiable no-games gayronic secondary

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.

        hello secondary, how about you fuck off?

        You seem assblasted. Perhaps you should actually play games before talking.

        based retard
        [...]
        That can be entirely true without issue.
        They CAN release bad

        I Accept Your Concession.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I Accept Your Concession.
          It's not really a concession, i think they karsh are fine, they suffer issues all later day GW minis have which mostly boils down to bad posing and i think the heads would be better if tehy were bulkier and flatter to make them look more like a unique group of guard rather than just like vets with hellguns.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hello secondary, how about you fuck off?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based retard

      >people whined forever when scions released they didn't look as good as stormtroopers or kasrkin
      >GW remakes the old kasrkin kith with modern sculpts pretty faithfully
      >people still complain they don't "fit" in 40k

      That can be entirely true without issue.
      They CAN release bad

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just the old model with a scope what's the problem?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >helmet redesign
      >legs feel spindly bc they're no longer early 2000s gorilla proportions
      >cords flailing about everywhere

      Yeah I'm glad there'll be easy bits for officers but I'm more glad I bought a shitton of old kasrkin.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Helmet redesign

        It barely looks different? Like some parts a less raised then they were before but aside from that there's no meaningful difference.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The entire bowl shape of the helmet is different. Granted its because the current plastics are from the chimp armed stone age of plastic kits, but it's noticeable enough I'll be stocking spare cadian helmets for the new minis.

          I understand that troops on a war front will get different eras of kit, but the helmets feel like they'll be really noticeable, if nothing else noticeable enough to me and my tism to be off-putting.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I really can't see what you're talking about, the overall helmet shape seems to be exactly the same, the rebreather just looks less pronounced and the detail wasn't scaled 1:1 with the increase in proportions. At least that I can see anyways

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              the new helmet is a ball (too thin and too tall), the old helmet is much wider, the old headlamps were much more squat, the rebreathers were much shorter, the filters smaller and the glasses recessed under the helmet. the breastplates went up to the collar intead of the fabric collar the new ones have, the new shoulder plates have a different design but are much narrower then the old ones the old wrist computer thing on the vambrace was big and thick, the new hellgun looks like garbage with its greebling, the armored hip plates are again too thin and while the old kasrkin armor has completely armored legs that almost interlock the new one is much more lightly armored. the whole new model has a tall and lanky look to it and the small helmet means he looks like he has microcephaly.

              the silhouette is fucked compared to the old guys who are solid and thick boys.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                forgot to mention they also moved the forehead aquila too far up (and made it too small), as the brow ridge looks weird under it instead of covered by it.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harks back to their original creation. Way back, Kasrkin and Shock Troopers were their own thing, up there with Veterans as an elite unit. Then Scions came out and they tried to roll them all into one thing, but it wasn't exactly done well. Now they're back to the beginning.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Karskin predate scions.
    If anything, we never needed scions to begin with

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Storm troopers (what became scions) predate kasrkin.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon didn't say storm troopers you chucklefuck, he said scions.

        When we got plastic scions we should've got either updated kasrkin as the default storm troopers (bc cadian pattern stuff being the assumed default) or updated versions of the jumpsuit dudes who were also cool as fuck. Scions look awful, I've never seen a scion army that looked better than the two immediate predecessors.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >basically identical lore, glory boys from the schola progenium
          >but they have a different name

          Scions are 2nd and 3rd edition storm troopers, just today.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like the inquisitorial stormtroopers the best.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When do we get our Stormtrooper HW teams back, GW?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cadians in general are too modern for my taste. Vostroyan, 30k’s solar auxilia, the new navy breachers, krieg, pic related, all give me the arcane future vibe.

    Cadians just look like 21st century soldiers, not 41st millennium soldiers with thousands of years of tech that they use without knowing how.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have it backwards, zoomie.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people whined forever when scions released they didn't look as good as stormtroopers or kasrkin
    >GW remakes the old kasrkin kith with modern sculpts pretty faithfully
    >people still complain they don't "fit" in 40k

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon people have different opinions from each other, they're not lying just to upset you
      Here look at this helpful edit I made
      >SOME people whined forever when scions released they didn't look as good as stormtroopers or kasrkin
      >GW remakes the old kasrkin kith with modern sculpts pretty faithfully
      >OTHER people still complain they don't "fit" in 40k

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you'd be surprised. There are many people here who will always hate the "new" thing because Ganker is full of contrarians

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We can go deeper.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    agree, scions where useless and now even more

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want the old, metal ones back that looked like Imp Stormtroopers from Star Wars.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Maybe a sign we didn't really need these guys
    Nah these guys are fine, the problem is that GW felt the need to turn stormtroopers into a specific faction rather than just saying 'yeah each regiment has stormtrooper dudes, these are the Cadian ones'. Really stormtroopers, kasrkin, scions, Krieg grenadiers, whatever should just be that one same thing; your regiment's elite shitkickers or some seconded ones from elsewhere.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Maybe a sign we didn't really need these guys

    You got 5% scale creep. thats why you got them.

    Every single release from GW will introduce larger and larger models until one day you're playing with nothing but 40mm round bases. Thats the UNDENIABLE trend of the last 5 years.

    The target audience is neckbeards. They're fat. They have fat fingers. Nerds need glasses. Models have to be large with the resolution necessary to accommodate fat fingered bespectacled friendless kids with disposable income.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The target audience is neckbeards. They're fat. They have fat fingers. Nerds need glasses. Models have to be large with the resolution necessary to accommodate fat fingered bespectacled friendless kids with disposable income.
      Impossible, GW tells me that the target audience is attractive 20something white women and fit, smiling minorities.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    40k Imperial stormtroopers have always been tacticool. Hell, they were already tacticool over 20 years ago, before that was even a word.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      these guys need a reboot as specifically INQ stormtroopers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I gotta get more of these guys

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the stat line difference between an existing veteran and a scion?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would we know when the codex won't be out for weeks? Also they're an elite human, they generally have identical statlines and are differentiated by abilities and wargear.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Or we didn't need scions. These are better by alot and always have been.

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