They're 2 completely different species and based on different animals you fucking retard.

They're 2 completely different species and based on different animals you fucking retard.
Of course they're different Pokemon.

Don't you know what convergent evolution is?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really like Galarian Zapdos

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exactly, there's literally no difference between Rfakes and regional forms. I don't know why gamefreak felt the need to make this distinction when there's no way to tell based off design alone. It's just world building that serves no tangible purpose

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Remeber when everyone was saying A-Sandshrew should be Snowshrew, yeah well, thats basically what this is.

      Gamefreak are just running out of concepts that they just rinse and repeat what they have and call it a different name, watch there be a Pika-clone that is literally Pikachu bit with blue cheeks instead of red ones and its finally called Pikablu

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >its finally called Pikablu
        Or Minun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Giving Rfakes their own dex numbers and pretending they're new species allows Shit Freak to cut down on their workload even more. From now on, at least half the dex in every new game will be slightly recolored old Pokemon presented as new species.
      Bootlickers will justify this by blathering about "convergent evolution," but will still bitch about Savers Agumon, Metal Slime, Robonyan, Black Frost, etc.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're a fucking idiot if you think that wiglett is cutting more room from the dex than a regular regional form

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >there is a limit of 400 mon in the dex
          >instead of being a regional and not taking up dex numbers now two are taken up by wiglett
          It's not the confusing anon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why do you assume that the first thing they do is pick an arbitrary number of dex slots that they have to begrudgingly fill

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Never played DP or SwSh?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why would their limit be based on dex numbers rather than the number of models/animations they have to make?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          YOU'RE a fucking idiot if you can't see that they're boiling the frog to get away with making far fewer genuinely new Pokemon per generation from now on.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are like the idiots who thought Ridley couldn't get in Smash 4 because of Dark Pit and Dr. Mario

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP how would you like to get killed by Gapdos?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zapdos and G-Zapdos share a name and Dex entry because the fact they’re not the same species is unknown in-universe. Diglett and Wiglett are different species/Dex entries because they’re known to be seperate species.

    “B-but that’s so arbitrary!”

    And?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      At the end of the day, there is no difference between Rfakes and regional variants other besides the arbitrary lore bits, which is why creating a whole new type of regional variants just with a different name is so annoying, especially when SV already has normal regional variants themselves as well as another type of variants in the form of Paradox Pokémon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So why can't they make up whatever the fuck they want to? It's not like it's complicated
        >same pokemon, different climate
        regional
        >lookalikes that aren't even the same species
        fakes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >same pokemon, different climate
          >lookalikes that aren't even the same species
          Because what counts as the same species but in different climates and what counts as an entirely different species is completely arbitrary. Galarian Zapdos and normal Zapdos are not just different because of climate, they're entirely different species yet they're treated as merely just a regional variant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because you can still tell they both are birds in the end, there's a common, not so distant ancestor.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Now that is some shitty headcanon. If you are going to make shit up at least make it cool.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes there is, the Galarian birds are the sole exception and are probably the inspiration for R-Fakes in the first place. All of the other regional forms are either descended from the standard version, or (in the case of Hisuian Pokemon) likely turned into the standard version over time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hisuian typlosion makes no sense
          >hisuian is the original forme
          >for some reason the pre-evos look nothing like it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            is the original forme
            Retard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could easily just refer to them all as variants in your own mind palace if it makes things easier for you, and no one will ever know.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a whole new type of regional variants just with a different name is so annoying,
        This is annoying only to Ganker because, for some reason, hardcore pokemon fanbase is extremely autistic about categorizing things. It's like the whole green/leaf/blue shitshow on bulbapedia or whatever it is.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, it makes sense. Its not like the pokedex is something natural, its all manmade. The people of Galar have no way of knowing the difference between two powerful legendary pokemon, while they could extensively research two weak pokemon like diglett and wiglett

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to make sense of all the moronic shit that goes on in modern pokemon
    You should have realized by now they have ran out of quality fuel and need to shoehorn a bunch of new retarded mechanics in every game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its really kind of sad and somewhat disturbing how quality keeps on dipping for not just pokemon but a wide array of categories almost every year.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok, let's review
    >bird
    >bird
    vs
    >mole
    >eel

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both Zapdoses are birds. Wigglet is a reptile worm fish thing

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah these are the same species. It's like two breeds of dog. They likely can interbreed (not in captivity).

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we've had convergent species since 2002
    >suddenly, it's now an issue.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally none of those creatures have any similarity other than being electric type rodents

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dedenne and raichu have a ton of similarties to the point if you put pikachu and dedenne together people would think dedenne is the prevo.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Plusle and Minum have zero simularities
        based retard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cheek pouch
        Eyes
        Common general shape/proportions

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >literally none of these creatures have any similarity other than being the exact same

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Convergent vs Divergent

      Pachirisu and Pikachu are confirmed to be related species. These are not convergent evolutions. They look the same because they all come from a single ancestor that they all got their "chu" traits from.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      These aren't a legitimate attempt at introducing regional variants or convergent species. These were just GF's poor attempts at trying to make more appealing mascot characters for merchandising and with the hope of creating something that might become just as popular as pikachu, but all attempts to capture lightning in a bottle again have been mediocre or decent at best.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      See, this is Pikachu. The mascot of the series. Why the fuck did we need another Diglett? Could have been any other Kanto pokemone who haven't had a new form yet.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tentacool's getting one

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are there any aside from Diglett and Tentacool?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah
        Should have been CHARIZARD

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine both of them fighting over putting their talons on your sandworm

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      More like they'd rip you up like a hunk of meat until you fisted Zapdos with your shredded arm while being raped by Gapdos.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The difference is the gamedevs said it's different so it is
    You'll just have to accept it lol

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zapdos is a Labrador and a pug
    Wiglett/Diglett is a human and a chimp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Terrible comprassions anon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zapdos is two different species of Galapagos finches. Wigglet is an eel. Diglett is a mole. Checkmate atheists

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP chose a bad example.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know you are trying to shit on "rfakes" but the galarian birds are LITERALLY said to be disputed in terms of regional forms, science didn't quite settle yet so they could be regional forms OR "rfakes" like Wiglett. So basically you are making GF look good with how they tested the grounds in Crown Tundra before introducing Wiglett in SV

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    G-guys, what if we overthink this childrens game !?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it doesn’t work when they give it the exact same cry as the original

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    doesn't have its own name and separate dex spot, not a convergent mon

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If convergent evolution isn't a thing, explain this.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the birds are divergent, you fucking peabrain

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're based on entirely different species of bird though so they can't be the same species.

      They are taxonomically as equal to each other as a mole is to an eel.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the in universe explanation for the Galarian birds? Seems odd that they'd have to adapt to an environment. They seem like the kind of Pokémon that would change their environment to suit them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Galarian birds are canonically different species that just look like the Kantonian birds. Not divergent but actually convergent evolution. They share the same dex slot because Gamefreak didn't come up with the fake concept before, same reason why Nidorans have different slots.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        [Citation Required]

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Source?

          Play the game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Source?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Galarian birds are canonically different species that just look like the Kantonian birds. Not divergent but actually convergent evolution. They share the same dex slot because Gamefreak didn't come up with the fake concept before, same reason why Nidorans have different slots.

      [Citation Required]

      Source?

      The actual dex entires
      They don't talk about about them specifically and how they came to be
      It's literally the people who called them these names because of the similarities

      It's literally what Cara Liss did with the Galar Fossils

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >same cries
        >same move levels
        >nearly identical stats
        >people still insist they're separate mons because it's implied by dex entries, the things that are notoriously made up bullshit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't have to be that
          The answer is very obvious that this is just a prototype idea to what would become Wiglett and potential others

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting that these were essentially the prototype for Wiglett-style Pokemon variants. I wonder if they'll be retconned into different Pokemon?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like that's the point but they teased it with the Galarian Birds instead of committing to it.
    The Dex entries made it obvious the people only called them these names because of their visual similarities to the birds but it isn't their actual names

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like how the Galarian birds basically confirmed the legendary birds are just regular ass Pokémon that are kinda big. They really overhyped them in Pokémon 2000.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair the 2000 ones could've been particularly old/strong members of the species.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That convergent shit have been the most fucking stupid idea and even they know it because the leaker said only digglet and tentacool got it, they are creatively bankrupt this gen with the retarded gimmick too

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's like saying that two breeds of dog are different species because whales and sharks kind of look alike. Get it together.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they're different Pokemon
    They aren't. They are both Zapdos.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are different species in lore. Humans just mistook those as the other legends

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