87 thoughts on “Super Smash Bros Ultimate felt like a complete downgrade from the wii u game”

  1. My worst gripe with Ultimate are the modes.
    I think they should’ve just completely scrapped spirits. They’re poorly integrated into the game and don’t feel good to use at all. World of Light was also a disappointment and doesn’t compare to Subspace Emissary.
    Should have just created something else or brought back previous modes.
    I would’ve loved to see Smash Tour or Smash Run come back. Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun, and I didn’t get to play Run.
    Master/Crazy orders was also nice, but would probably be redundant considering there’s nothing to buy with money in Ultimate.
    At least they brought back HRC, I guess…

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  2. Controversial opinion but as someone who plays smash as a party game brawl honestly felt like the series peak to me. Sub space emissary was insanely fun, mountain of side content, the final smashes all felt unique and fun to use, and it had really good item and character verity. I got Brawl at launch and it almost never left my wii.

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    • Agree 100%.
      I judge all fighters/racers against Brawl’s volume of content, and rarely do any games in these genres come close.

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  3. this motherfucker isn’t gonna be in the next game and that saddens me though hes definitely one of the most sensible cuts

    is there any other character that checks the "wrestling" box better bar a rebooted wario?

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  4. The only upgrade from Wii U to Switch was the roster. And that’s all this game has going for it. It’s basically saying
    >Look, everyone from prior games are here! Plus we added in several never evers like Ridley, K. Rool, Banjo, and Sora! And uh… that’s it! But you’ll buy it anyway because you gotta consoom Smash!

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    • >The only upgrade from Wii U to Switch was the roster
      And the single player especially the arcade mode which can fuck off with the 5+ player smash bullshit
      And the game speed since 4 was unbearably slow
      And the online sans being paid

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      • >And the single player especially the arcade mode which can fuck off with the 5+ player smash bullshit
        Ultimate’s spirits are way worse than 4’s events. Classic is kind of better but I miss when there were slight changes between each run, not as much as wii u, but still a few changes
        >And the game speed since 4 was unbearably slow
        Honestly, the faster game speed combined with the imput delay leaves the game feeling a lot worse control wise
        >And the online sans being paid
        Nah, wii u had way better online and for glory and for fun were way better than the shit we have now

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        • >Ultimate’s spirits are way worse than 4’s events.
          Sure if you ignore the fact that there’s far lore variety.
          >the faster game speed combined with the imput delay leaves the game feeling a lot worse control wise
          I’d say that’s more on you being too used to 4’s abysmal controls. It’s the same issue melee players have.
          >wii u had way better online and for glory and for fun were way better than the shit we have now
          Not even close, the fact that you barely had any control on the rules for either mode was abysmal not to mention how FG required every stage to be the omega variant.

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  5. I’ll give you that Ultimate was way less promising than Smash 4 ever was, and didn’t have the ballot to supposedly gauge who got into Smash. But the rest is of your claim is totally false.
    Neither game bothered adding a single Kirby newcomer, so they’re both bad regardless.

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  6. curious what a future game would look like

    people REALLY like the "rival" angle though (krool, ridley, sephiroth) so hopefully they keep rolling with it

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      • Cranky kong for mario, dark matter for kirby, kamek for yoshi, captain syrup for wario, shadow and/or eggman for sonic, black shadow or blood falcon for captain falcon, fire emblem villain for fire emblem, raven beak for samus, porky for ness and lucas

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    • sakurai had 2 options
      a: go full tilt on characters and stages
      b: reimagine the game from the ground up with a smaller roster

      we got a, now it’s time for b because smash has gotten stale

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      • >muh reboot
        fuck off,where did this meme start? the formula isn’t broken the gameplay has just never been fixed since Brawl ruined the physics like Spiderman never had good physics since after Spiderman Ultimate

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