>creative energy >used for on-rails electronic toy
t. 1 and can also imagine the taste, texture, and sound the apple makes when you bite into it and I'm still not building shitty mechs to make fun.
These threads are made purely so gays like can write whole paragraphs about how much of a 1 they are. Boasting about having a functioning imagination is like boasting about being able to piss standing up.
Aphasia is a function of IQ, but not the way you think.
>However, IQ did differ significantly across the groups, F(2,66)=5.18, P=0.008, η2p=0.136. Pairwise comparisons indicated that the aphantasia group had a significantly elevated IQ compared with the hyperphantasia group (P=0.002), but there were no other statistically significant differences.
>Research on CONVICTS >yes this applies to all people with a certain IQ
I want to believe it too and I somewhat so but come on guys use your heads. This is too good to be entirely true
Your IQ doesn't magically drop when you commit a crime and go to jail, some of the people walking among you simply haven't committed a crime or they have yet to be arrested for committing a crime, that's not to say that all people with a low IQ are destined to commit a crime, I think the Data is valid but I could be just a low IQ retard myself so take it for what it's worth. Ive never been a convict though.
>get taken out of jail for a month to do some study >some kid asks me to write a story about two characters when one of the character writes a story about two characters who write a story about two characters >dont do it because it sounds dumb >kid keeps muttering to himself about sub-90 this and sub-80 that and how we need to genocide people who aren't able to do SAT questions
meanwhile rightoids be like >BRING BACK LEADED GAS!!! MORE FOSSIL FUELS!!! DRIVE MORE CARS SO WE CAN BREATHE MORE BRAKE DUST!!! LESS REGULATION!!! DON'T SPEND MY MONEY ON SCHOOLS OR WELFARE!!! KEEP POOR moron CHILDREN STARVING AND STUNTED!!!!!
Citycucks aren't human. Sorry you failed your driver's test that a 16 year old can pass.
Cool story, #5
lol you can't even imagine a car
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I live in the suburbs and drive a car everyday (I have no choice). Carbrains still aren't human though. I'm sorry you never grew out of your vroom vroom phase as a kid.
5 days ago
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>local suburbanite that drives mommy and daddy's car is retarded
I'm sorry you can't appreciate freedom of movement
>Seething leadbrain continues to project
Sad, really. We tried to help you but I guess huffing road debris was too enticing?
>COUGH COUGH OY VEY THE EXHAUST I THINK IM BREATHING ALL TIME EVEN WHEN IM NOT IS LE BAD OY MUH ASTHMA
Is being a retard with no control over where you go that enticing?
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It's very sad that some people are too stupid to enjoy the freedom and pride of a personal automobile. It's the ultimate expression of my freedom and individuality. Where will I drive today? Work? Home? Perhaps even a third place? Only I decide.
5 days ago
Anonymous
Actually I drive my own car. I had to purchase and pay tax and insurance on something I shouldn't even need. Cars and carbrained zombies are cucked
5 days ago
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>carbrained
cope i drive both a car (a alpine) and i fly a400m's for my job (french air force pilot)
you will never be as great as i am
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>He's STILL projecting about mommy and daddy and not being able to go where he wants
Kinda sad, dude. Hey, on the bright side, once you're old enough to post here you can have that freedom of movement you keep crying about. Or you can save for a bike in the mean time, it's not like you have to stay seething in front of a computer until you move out.
5 days ago
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>tries to go into dense forest in a car
So much for freedom of movement...
5 days ago
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>Seething leadbrain continues to project
Sad, really. We tried to help you but I guess huffing road debris was too enticing?
5 days ago
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>Citycucks aren't human.
Amerimutts regardless of where they are aren't human.
The word “civilization” relates to the Latin word “civitas” or “city.” This is why the most basic definition of the word “civilization” is “a society made up of cities.
You should be kept illiterate and preferrably mute kept either in zoos like great pandas, or be turned into slave caste to man the fields and farms for the chinese.
Ideally anything resembling human form but actually being a crude mockery and a horrible insult of the divine design should be wiped out from the continent of Northern america with fauna taking over the whole continent but alas.
5 days ago
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I think we should ban Israeli IPs and the Holocaust didn't happen.
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5 days ago
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Without amerimutts, israel gets wiped out from the face off the earth by its neighbors to a world-wide sigh of relief.
5 days ago
Anonymous
Another day, another fag seething at my obvious superiority.
5 days ago
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>Another day, another fag seething at my obvious superiority.
How is "regulation" going to solve something that isn't a problem?
>Citycucks aren't human.
Amerimutts regardless of where they are aren't human.
The word “civilization” relates to the Latin word “civitas” or “city.” This is why the most basic definition of the word “civilization” is “a society made up of cities.
You should be kept illiterate and preferrably mute kept either in zoos like great pandas, or be turned into slave caste to man the fields and farms for the chinese.
Ideally anything resembling human form but actually being a crude mockery and a horrible insult of the divine design should be wiped out from the continent of Northern america with fauna taking over the whole continent but alas.
>car-less euro mutt in his confined muslim rape gang city-zone schizo babbles about americans
It's very sad that some people are too stupid to enjoy the freedom and pride of a personal automobile. It's the ultimate expression of my freedom and individuality. Where will I drive today? Work? Home? Perhaps even a third place? Only I decide.
>every road is a freeway
lol no car
Actually I drive my own car. I had to purchase and pay tax and insurance on something I shouldn't even need. Cars and carbrained zombies are cucked
>doesn't even what he pays for (insurance) >claims to have own car >not being financially responsible for thing means thing is bad
Yep, just projecting your own self0induced retardation.
5 days ago
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Yes yes keep up your monthly payment to the garden gnomes for your truck carbain
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>insurance >monthly
lol you don't even have a car you fucking moron. That or it's some euro fag tax.
Emissions are a problem, though.
No, you're just a moron who sucks an exhaust pipe for fun.
5 days ago
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Why would I give the garden gnomes my money in advance so they earn interest on it?
5 days ago
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I don't know, why do you have a hard on for wanting to get of something you don't even have because you don't even know how to pay for it?
5 days ago
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I’m talking about the environment here, ya dumdum.
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Yeah retard, and everyone knows the current climate change movement is a scam. Go to China or India if you're that fucking concerned with the pollution.
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You aren’t my responsibility. The planet has to die someday. Fuck you, I got mine.
Fuck you I live in Germany and the weather is nothing like it used to be in my childhood. It's all over the fucking place. Fuck you American and Chinese pigs.
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>M-my country's weather is le bad because of... >LE CARS >LE AMERICANS
Fuck off gay, unless you're a literal 80 year old boomer from the countryside you've been living in the same conditions since you were a kid
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It isn't a scam, you fell for the propaganda, we are about to live in the biggest and last genocide on this planet btw.
>WEF
Congrats, your climate hysteria and dismantling of industry is exactly what they want, dumbass.
>doesn’t believe in climate change or at least doesn’t care about it >doesn’t care about pollution ruining his country’s environment
This is the third world mindset right here.
Sorry, it's hard to take you seriously when you elected a retarded Swedish teenager as a representative for your movement.
>Go to China or India if you're that fucking concerned with the pollution. >go to the countries with some of the worst pollution in the world if you're concerned about pollution
did you have a point to make here or...? retard?
Yeah, that developed countries have way less pollution problems than third world shitholes and communist dystopias you dumb moron.
5 days ago
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Poorfag cope.
5 days ago
Anonymous
Nope, I own a car that's paid off. But your non-sequitur makes for a decent concession.
Moron, the WEF knows and takes it seriously, they are counting on climate crisis to get rid of a big chunk of the population.
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It won't stop there, they want a billionaire planet, they have killed for that.
>they are counting on climate crisis
So why is that they shill for your movement so much?
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>So why is that they shill for your movement so much? >he thinks it's not intentional misdirection >knows nothing about gnomish bait and switch
How do you people even breathe
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Moron, the WEF knows and takes it seriously, they are counting on climate crisis to get rid of a big chunk of the population.
I agree with him, even if it includes me. There's too many people and many of them are worthless trash. The (dumb) poor and immigrants are a classic example but those middle class trash like those writers striking right now are worthless too
It won't stop there, they want a billionaire planet, they have killed for that.
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Do you guys not already think the wealthy have the world in a shape that suits them and their needs and are just doing their best to maintain that? There is no sinister next step, you're already living in endgame. They're just doing what they can to maintain the world as is.
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>Yeah, that developed countries have way less pollution problems
Did you miss the entire state of Ohio this year?
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>Fuck you I live in Germany
Then stop polluting planet with coal you fucktards.
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You aren’t my responsibility. The planet has to die someday. Fuck you, I got mine.
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Fuck you I live in Germany and the weather is nothing like it used to be in my childhood. It's all over the fucking place. Fuck you American and Chinese pigs.
It isn't a scam, you fell for the propaganda, we are about to live in the biggest and last genocide on this planet btw.
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I agree with him, even if it includes me. There's too many people and many of them are worthless trash. The (dumb) poor and immigrants are a classic example but those middle class trash like those writers striking right now are worthless too
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>doesn’t believe in climate change or at least doesn’t care about it >doesn’t care about pollution ruining his country’s environment
This is the third world mindset right here.
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>Go to China or India if you're that fucking concerned with the pollution. >go to the countries with some of the worst pollution in the world if you're concerned about pollution
did you have a point to make here or...? retard?
>We shouldn't feed them because their families starve them, putting them in the state of needing food in the first place
Holy fuck you are DUMB. Like giga-ultra-fucking-STUPID !!!!!!
but leftoids are the ones who shut down nuclear plants so they could use fossil fuels instead
moron schools get a lot more funding than any normal schools, despite that morons dont learn anything because they are retarded
morons in general are a massive money sink and they do nothing but cause damage to society
Do you have the recent clip of a woman being completely oblivious and failing to comprehend she killed someone with her car and as a result is not getting the car back to go to work and is under arrest?
>how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast tomorrow
Not defending that person, but they're clearly just high as a kite on pain pills.
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https://youtu.be/xMHaHwcAPaw?t=1203 >you killed two people with a car, you're not going to school tomorrow, you're going to jail >when do I go to school
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Have some fentanyl, Chang sent it to Paco just so you can enjoy the sweet release of dying of an overdose instead of being an amerimutt.
that reminds me heavy anti-depressants got linked to murder. Turns out when you on happy pills you also feel more positive about putting a knife into someone you dont like
>I did IQ research as a grad student >We did research on convicts in San Quentin
ah yes, I imagine their must be some sort of official documentation for all these studies right?... certainly the high IQ individual who wrote this wouldn't expect his fellow IQ giants to just accept his anonymously posted words at face value.
You have revealed yourself to be a low IQ individual by doubting your mental superiors. Us smarties have an unspoken bond of trust and would never doubt the big brained claims of each other.
I'm not doubting that anon is full of shit, I'm pointing out that it exists.
What he's doing is pretending he's qualified, so that he can post his perceived results of that study.
15% of the human population is clinically retarded.
Crime research says sentence severity doesn't work. Dumbfucks are like dogs and need immediate punishment while anything extended doesnt register in their head as a consequence to previous crime.
tldr: people are dumber than you think. If you work academia you just living in a isolated bubble.
i don't buy it. there can't be people running around there who are incapable of understanding how other people might feel. they are just fucking with you, i'm sure of it. feeling for one's common man, compassion, empathy, surely everyone must feel this to some degree. also, i read some psychology stuff about how even psychopaths/sociopaths are able to feel stuff. they just don't feel it as strongly as the rest of us, so it's easier for them to suppress those emotions. in general, they just don't want to feel empathy because it's hard for them to do so, so they push those emotions away and just don't bother with them.
Sometimes reading Youtube comments genuinely fills me despair. It makes you wonder how some people manage to feed themselves. And those people are at least somewhat literate, so there's people even dumber than that.
>People can't understand hypotheticals
You know, I thought this was bullshit but then remembered experiencing a very similar example to what OP here gave.
Because it's a shitty twitter meme. Everyone can learn to see "1" in their mind's eye except morons they're not even human there's on difference between 4 and 1 btw.
Then there's the obvious misunderstanding if the picture is talking about actually seeing or seeing with your mind's eye, both are possible.
I think people misinterpret the question as "what do you see [with your actual eyes]" where everyone would be a 5, versus "what do you see [in your mind's eye]" where everyone is 1/2
For me aphantasia means the lack of interconnection between your visual center and memory/association center.
Crude example - even if you have schizophrenia or use drugs, you will never have visual hallucinations because you don't have some parts of your brain properly connected.
What I really want to know is whether mind's eye is a normal thing for human being or do I have an underdeveloped brain.
>even if you have schizophrenia
schizos don't allucinate. they conclude they do because they are too emotionally unhinged and basically gaslight themselves with their own desires.
t. schizo
uhhhhh, you seem to be the unlucky one I guess, some other schizos claim to be able to independently visualize and animate things like
I'm a 1, When I want to draw something, I can visualise an entirely made up character or environment and even project it on the paper and draw "on top of it"
Weirdly I have a hard time doing it with real faces. I can't conjure the image of the face of even someone that I don't see every day. Let alone childhood friends. It's there somewhere since they can appear in dreams but it's not directly accessible.
I can imagine any aspect of an apple. The smell, the taste, the texture, the feel or weight in my hand. I can see it in my minds eye. I can zoom in and out.
I wouldnt feed Red Delicious to a fucking farm animal. Absolute trash.
Plebs all agreeing with each other. I'm not saying Red Dels are the best, just better than Granny Smiths. Any of the Crisp apples are the way to go for apple eating.
>teachers would tell us to close our eyes when they wanted us to imagine something >never understood why because I could imagine 1 without closing my eyes
only artists can see 1-2. Only they understand 3d forms and fundies. All you idiots and actually 4 and 5s but think otherwise. Pick up a pencil and brush and show me
>can conjure fantastical artwork and music in my mind >completely incapable of converting into reality
my greatest wish is for a true neural interface to exist in my lifetime so i can bypass my lack of artistic talent
I am a 1, and the closest thing to art I've done is read a How to Draw Manga book my mom got for me when I was a kid. I didn't know what a manga was but the characters kind of looked like what I'd see on Toonami/Adult Swim so I gave it a read. There was an Ecchi section at the back. Thanks mom
Again, you are coping. Pick up a pencil and paint. You can’t do it and you know it. Thinking you can is easy, having a canvas in front of you and projecting it on material is completely different.
The only reason artists can do what they do is because they're able to translate the world to two dimensions more easily.
Imagination is only a tiny part of what comes into drawing or painting, the vast majority of it is being able to translate an image to the medium using tricks and intuitive use of drawing tools.
So you're wrong, and your art is probably shit anyways.
i dont really believe anyone is truly anything past 3. there has to be some type of misunderstanding.
on the same topic. what do dreams look like to you? i remember when i was younger that i was usually unable to hear anything in my dreams, but ive grown out of that.
This meme test is retarded because of how stupidly worded it always is >IMAGINE an apple >ok I know what an apple looks like in my mind; round, either red or green, a stem on top >NO NO close your eyes and IMAGINE THE APPLE >I can only see various shapes of light and darkness >well you're dumb then lol
>mental willpower
See, more meme terms. Moreover there's no practical use for this "test". Why would you need to close your eyes to imagine what something looks like when you have actual memory in your brain to go off of.
I can't just close my eyes and picture it. Usually just start to sink into my mind and that is where i can picture anything. I guess you can call it the mind's eye.
The problem is using words like "seeing" or "visualizing" instead of "imagining". When some people get asked that question they interpret it literally, as if they're literally supposed to see an apple when they close their eyes, instead of just making a mental image of an apple, which is not the same.
>instead of just making a mental image of an apple, which is not the same.
So it is just memory then. So unless you're literally a diagnosed retard anyone can be a 1 or 2 because it's almost impossible not to know what an apple looks like.
>imagine an apple >okay >so what does it look like? >like an apple, round I guess >okay, subject can only imagine form of an apple and didn't describe it thoroughly >wait you didn't ask me more questi- >NEXT
The problem is using words like "seeing" or "visualizing" instead of "imagining". When some people get asked that question they interpret it literally, as if they're literally supposed to see an apple when they close their eyes, instead of just making a mental image of an apple, which is not the same.
basically correct but it's even sillier
think of the last time you actually bought an apple at the grocery store
if you did, think of how many kinds of apples there actually are
"apple" as the subject is flawed because A) that's a common but not overly-common thing to see and B) there's too much variety in what you could imagine, so your brain defaults into paradox of choice
meanwhile if you asked someone to envision "pizza" they would all get 1 or 2 in the OP without issue
I don't really see an apple, as in vivid red.
I know there's an apple in my mind when I try to, I can sort of grasp the feeling of it but it's not something I can SEE, it's visual in a different way. I can't explain it.
I see black from closing my eyes but my mind is focused on an apple, different angles of it. It feels like an overlay
No shit you can't see it, that's why people say 'mind's eye'.
I am convinced that any data on this imaginary phenomenon is entirely retards misunderstanding the question.
If you can’t close your eyes and manipulate a shiny apple, biting into it, feeling the texture on your tongue and the taste, as well as being able to smell it, you’re a brainlet
I've always wondered if there's some sort of miscommunication in regards to what "seeing" actually is here because nobody is conjuring up a photorealistic apple behind their eyelids, it's about what the mind's eye can "see".
I feel like this question is phrased wrong and that fact may be used by shitposters and people who lack introspection when answering the question to cause confusion. I dont "see" anything, but I am visualizing the qualities of a fairly real apple in my head, but its not like there is now a picture of an apple plastered on the back of my eyelids. There is a massive difference in the degree of the visualization if Im taking the time to sit and recall the various features of an apple, or if Im just quickly thinking Id like an apple right now.
well, no one is able to truly see an apple, like we do when we physically watch an apple with our open eyes. but everyone ought to be able to sort-of visualize on in their mind's eye, you know?
Honestly blows my mind that it could be anything other than 1 or 2. It's a 1 for me. And what is 4 supposed to even be? Like the transparent ghost of an apple?
all these people are retards that got gaslit into thinking they don't have the ability to think. if you ever had a single dream in your entire life, congratulations, you have the mental capacity to visualize shit just like every other human being on the planet.
Everything that goes on between your ears is based on memory, the processes of your mind are formatted to external realities. You don't think in an alien language, you can't imagine objects people or things without prior knowledge/data of those things. Even nightmares of weird shit are amalgams of things you've seen in ways your subconscious mind has arranged but your conscious mind may find unfamiliar
I'm a 1, When I want to draw something, I can visualise an entirely made up character or environment and even project it on the paper and draw "on top of it"
Weirdly I have a hard time doing it with real faces. I can't conjure the image of the face of even someone that I don't see every day. Let alone childhood friends. It's there somewhere since they can appear in dreams but it's not directly accessible.
I have inner monologue. Its absolutely borderline schizo shit. Sometimes I feel in control of the dialogue, othertimes its intrusive. I like to imagine the different aspect of my psyche as actors from a greek play with all the robes and plaster masks.
Your perspective is biased because you're on the internet. Dumb people don't use the internet. Hell, dumb people can't even read.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States), 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level. That 54% likely has a large overlap with the unknown percentage of people who cannot think, and you likely don't interact with that 54% on a daily basis (especially on the internet).
so you talk yourself through stuff out loud as you think about what to do next? that sounds more like schizo shit than talking through it in your own head.
Any thought I have I vocalize immediately without any mental consideration. It leaves my mouth as soon as I conceptualize it so those around me can enjoy my wisdom.
>Listening to the Joe Roegan podcast >Some country singer talking about the mental anguish of intrusive thoughts >Hes talking about random thoughts that I have all the time but just brush off as l'appel du vide
Man, lacking introspection or force of will must fucking suck.
People dont realize that phenomenon is common in literally all men but you're supposed to develop some discipline or strength of character to regularly deny it. That's a fundamental part of being a well-adjusted human and why people in the past believed in stuff like trickster gods or the devil.
>listen to the joe rogan podcast >guest admits to being a weird brainlet >"wow dude that's fascinating there's so much we don't know about the mind it's weird how they're just like a bunch of cells that decided you know what we're going to be a brain and start thinking thoughts like how does something like that even happen you gotta wonder if chimps and stuff are thinking thoughts like us"
Yes. When I started learning english, at some point I started thinking in english, but it always was pictured as me sitting in a tramway, looking out of the window, and thinking about foreign words.
I didn't believe this in till I realized how retarded zoomers are.
When I draw something I just reference it in my head, sometimes if it's a difficult pose or complex object I'll gather a reference but otherwise it's all my in head.
Yet I noticed a lot Zoomers want to be artists, a terrible choice but alright, but they literally cannot draw without a source of reference. Worse is their references aren't just a photo of the character; but literally everything. >I need twenty references >I need one to draw the shirt >I need one to draw the shading >I need one to understand anatomy >I need one to understand hair.
And worst of all? They literally cannot comprehend that people don't need references.
In their head they cannot understand people are able to imagine things, which explains why so many zoomers cannot separate fiction from reality: Because they can't separate fiction from reality, so they assume you can't either.
It's actually tremendously easier to draw from reference, dude. Unless you have completely internalized the method and anatomy necessary to draw the particular pose or object it's always going to be easier to keep a photo reference handy.
Just work with the artist a little more and I promise you you'll get your big titty furry OC drawn soon.
>It's actually tremendously easier to draw from reference
Yes I'm aware it's easy, but I don't need it for everything and that's my point.
They need it to draw, I don't.
I can imagine and visual the vines growing between the seams of bricks, the weathered concrete with small cracks as time eroded it. I can visualize the grime, and dirt, and stains upon said brick wall.
They need a reference for literally everything I described, I can draw this from memory and imagination and they can't.
This isn't to say using references is bad, it's that they literally cannot use their brains. They need a reference for everything.
You are brain dead if you think that's the point I'm making. >if you think the vast majority of artist in history don't use a reference of some kind.
It's not about using references, learn to read.
I said they >NEED< a reference to draw, needing something means requiring it -- most of my peers don't >NEED< references but use them every so often. That's my point, you dumb fuck. They >NEED< references to draw.
When you play a video game do you >NEED< to play on easy?
what is the difference between using them often and needing them? what percentage of the drawing threshold do you have to hit where it becomes not needing them anymore? because if you are using references often it practically sounds like you fucking need them and everything else is just muscle memory.
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>what is the difference between using them often and needing them?
Good question anon.
I think it's important to remember that drawing takes time, but imagination is also a core element of it.
In art-school they often teach you the fundamentals, which is important for understanding anatomy. When you're in art-school, least my teaching, they told me to learn as much as possible about our world.
I think there's a difference between someone needing a reference to know what a character looks like, and needing a reference to draw anything. I don't deny that references do improve art, and I apologize if you assumed I was saying otherwise, but I don't need to use them to draw a person in the abstract. What I'm describing is the notion of basically tracing, and yes tracing is actually a normal thing in the art-world too for learning but it's about the lack of imagination.
Note: Not once did I ever say they were bad artists, it's just they need that crutch to be effective. Which was my small peeve. It's that they cannot use imagination often.
I'm currently drawing something, so hopefully the thread stays alive till then.
Oh I really really really want to see your drawings, gay. Either you're an experienced artist with a great mental library or you're a bag gay who doesn't realize how shit his drawing are. You know like most idiots don't realize they're idiots.
If you cant creat whole universes in your mind that are so realistic you cant tell when your eyes are opened or closed you are pathetic and not on my level .
literally nobody is anything but a 5. the idea that you can magically make pictures in your head is retarted and laughable, andbody who says different is just coping to not feel inferior.
>literally nobody is anything but a 5. the idea that you can magically make pictures in your head is retarted and laughable, andbody who says different is just coping to not feel inferior.
this "test" is retarded because it's full of misinterpretation.
the way the mind's eye works is not the same as actually seeing. it's pretty much a different "sense" entirely. there's not much reason to compare it.
imagined sounds come from the same "sense", which i find way more fascinating.
okay so then surely you have a name for this test or can provide some further information. the idea sounds interesting, but I doubt its as nuanced as you claim.
there is no REAL test for any of this
the human perspective is entirely subjective and not something that can be observed from the outside.
it's all just rationalizations
>can imagine the apple >frequently converse with myself inside and outside my head >didn't take the "vaccine"
True humans, it's time we rise up.
>frequently converse
reminds me of when i tried to create a tulpa >talk to what i imagined as a ball of energy that would take form later >fast forward 3 months >it didn't work
guess i wasn't schizo enough.
even so, i remember that having "someone" to talk to was pretty nice
i don't understand this meme. i can easily imagine a simple red apple? are there people out there who literally aren't able to imagine stuff? like, if they try to imagine a wheel or a wrench, nothing pops up in their minds? it's just all black and empty? i don't buy it, i think they are just fucking with you guys...
>read book >have the way characters and the world look established in my mind >official art gets published >mind gets poisoned by official designs
i hate when this happens, most of the time i manage to revert after a little time though.
I feel lost when there is no official design or artwork. Might be because I mostly read shitty amateur webnovels translated by shitty amateur translators.
I don't think it happens with western books. They usually build a good image of the scene and character in my head.
>I hunger >I visualize the apple >Its size and shape >Its weight and texture in my hand >The apple cries out, begging for its form to be preserved >I do not abide by the apple's will >As my teeth puncture the supple flesh my nose is met by the crisp sweet smell >I feel the juices run down the corner of my mouth >I no longer hunger
>He can't bite into the imaginary apple in his imagination >he can't taste the apple >he can't sate his appetite and subsist entirely on imaginary apples
Yikes, you guys are dumb
>literally nobody here has had the circumference of their cranial lobe measured by real phrenologist >thread full of people with the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter
>got concerned about brain damage from disease > test iq >145
still feel like i got dumber butl its even more depressing to consider you are getting a high score above 99% while knowing how retarded you are, after all what does that say about normies?
This is a trick question. It's 5 for everybody. It's asking "what do you see?" not "what are you imagining?" Your eyes are seeing nothing but black as your eyelids are blocking all other light from reflecting into them. But that doesn't mean you can't imagine a visual in your head.
im a 5 as well
I don’t get it
Third post best post.
>not putting it in the square hole
what a retard
>creative energy
>used for on-rails electronic toy
t. 1 and can also imagine the taste, texture, and sound the apple makes when you bite into it and I'm still not building shitty mechs to make fun.
This. If you struggle with reading books, especially novels, you are an NPC.
Reading is boring as fuck THOUGH
These threads are made purely so gays like can write whole paragraphs about how much of a 1 they are. Boasting about having a functioning imagination is like boasting about being able to piss standing up.
i'm imagining a translucent purple apple with razorblades and a chainsaw
sounds like your average mmorpg player
none of these describe me
I just imagine this image in high resolution detail.
Still refuse to believe anyone can be 3, 4 or 5
I really recommend giving this wall of text a read, it puts some things in a new light.
Aphasia is a function of IQ, but not the way you think.
>However, IQ did differ significantly across the groups, F(2,66)=5.18, P=0.008, η2p=0.136. Pairwise comparisons indicated that the aphantasia group had a significantly elevated IQ compared with the hyperphantasia group (P=0.002), but there were no other statistically significant differences.
>Aphasia
*Aphantasia
I've been living inside my head since the age of 14, I must be near retard level of this is accurate
christ
>Research on CONVICTS
>yes this applies to all people with a certain IQ
I want to believe it too and I somewhat so but come on guys use your heads. This is too good to be entirely true
Convicts are like us, just that they let the intrusive thoughts win
Your IQ doesn't magically drop when you commit a crime and go to jail, some of the people walking among you simply haven't committed a crime or they have yet to be arrested for committing a crime, that's not to say that all people with a low IQ are destined to commit a crime, I think the Data is valid but I could be just a low IQ retard myself so take it for what it's worth. Ive never been a convict though.
Interesting. Is there anywhere you can read more about this stuff?
To be fair if I was a convict and some retard grad student was trying to evaluate my IQ, I would mentally checkout pretty quickly.
>get taken out of jail for a month to do some study
>some kid asks me to write a story about two characters when one of the character writes a story about two characters who write a story about two characters
>dont do it because it sounds dumb
>kid keeps muttering to himself about sub-90 this and sub-80 that and how we need to genocide people who aren't able to do SAT questions
the breakfast one is my favorite.
meanwhile rightoids be like
>BRING BACK LEADED GAS!!! MORE FOSSIL FUELS!!! DRIVE MORE CARS SO WE CAN BREATHE MORE BRAKE DUST!!! LESS REGULATION!!! DON'T SPEND MY MONEY ON SCHOOLS OR WELFARE!!! KEEP POOR moron CHILDREN STARVING AND STUNTED!!!!!
I'm sorry you're too retarded and poor to drive a car and think everyone should as miserable as you.
carbrains aren't human
Citycucks aren't human. Sorry you failed your driver's test that a 16 year old can pass.
lol you can't even imagine a car
I live in the suburbs and drive a car everyday (I have no choice). Carbrains still aren't human though. I'm sorry you never grew out of your vroom vroom phase as a kid.
>local suburbanite that drives mommy and daddy's car is retarded
I'm sorry you can't appreciate freedom of movement
>COUGH COUGH OY VEY THE EXHAUST I THINK IM BREATHING ALL TIME EVEN WHEN IM NOT IS LE BAD OY MUH ASTHMA
Is being a retard with no control over where you go that enticing?
It's very sad that some people are too stupid to enjoy the freedom and pride of a personal automobile. It's the ultimate expression of my freedom and individuality. Where will I drive today? Work? Home? Perhaps even a third place? Only I decide.
Actually I drive my own car. I had to purchase and pay tax and insurance on something I shouldn't even need. Cars and carbrained zombies are cucked
>carbrained
cope i drive both a car (a alpine) and i fly a400m's for my job (french air force pilot)
you will never be as great as i am
>He's STILL projecting about mommy and daddy and not being able to go where he wants
Kinda sad, dude. Hey, on the bright side, once you're old enough to post here you can have that freedom of movement you keep crying about. Or you can save for a bike in the mean time, it's not like you have to stay seething in front of a computer until you move out.
>tries to go into dense forest in a car
So much for freedom of movement...
>Seething leadbrain continues to project
Sad, really. We tried to help you but I guess huffing road debris was too enticing?
>Citycucks aren't human.
Amerimutts regardless of where they are aren't human.
The word “civilization” relates to the Latin word “civitas” or “city.” This is why the most basic definition of the word “civilization” is “a society made up of cities.
You should be kept illiterate and preferrably mute kept either in zoos like great pandas, or be turned into slave caste to man the fields and farms for the chinese.
Ideally anything resembling human form but actually being a crude mockery and a horrible insult of the divine design should be wiped out from the continent of Northern america with fauna taking over the whole continent but alas.
I think we should ban Israeli IPs and the Holocaust didn't happen.
Without amerimutts, israel gets wiped out from the face off the earth by its neighbors to a world-wide sigh of relief.
Another day, another fag seething at my obvious superiority.
>Another day, another fag seething at my obvious superiority.
Cool story, #5
How does pushing for stricter regulation indicate that they don’t have enough money to drive?
How is "regulation" going to solve something that isn't a problem?
>car-less euro mutt in his confined muslim rape gang city-zone schizo babbles about americans
>every road is a freeway
lol no car
>doesn't even what he pays for (insurance)
>claims to have own car
>not being financially responsible for thing means thing is bad
Yep, just projecting your own self0induced retardation.
Yes yes keep up your monthly payment to the garden gnomes for your truck carbain
>insurance
>monthly
lol you don't even have a car you fucking moron. That or it's some euro fag tax.
No, you're just a moron who sucks an exhaust pipe for fun.
Why would I give the garden gnomes my money in advance so they earn interest on it?
I don't know, why do you have a hard on for wanting to get of something you don't even have because you don't even know how to pay for it?
I’m talking about the environment here, ya dumdum.
Yeah retard, and everyone knows the current climate change movement is a scam. Go to China or India if you're that fucking concerned with the pollution.
Fuck you I live in Germany and the weather is nothing like it used to be in my childhood. It's all over the fucking place. Fuck you American and Chinese pigs.
>M-my country's weather is le bad because of...
>LE CARS
>LE AMERICANS
Fuck off gay, unless you're a literal 80 year old boomer from the countryside you've been living in the same conditions since you were a kid
>WEF
Congrats, your climate hysteria and dismantling of industry is exactly what they want, dumbass.
Sorry, it's hard to take you seriously when you elected a retarded Swedish teenager as a representative for your movement.
Yeah, that developed countries have way less pollution problems than third world shitholes and communist dystopias you dumb moron.
Poorfag cope.
Nope, I own a car that's paid off. But your non-sequitur makes for a decent concession.
>they are counting on climate crisis
So why is that they shill for your movement so much?
>So why is that they shill for your movement so much?
>he thinks it's not intentional misdirection
>knows nothing about gnomish bait and switch
How do you people even breathe
Moron, the WEF knows and takes it seriously, they are counting on climate crisis to get rid of a big chunk of the population.
It won't stop there, they want a billionaire planet, they have killed for that.
Do you guys not already think the wealthy have the world in a shape that suits them and their needs and are just doing their best to maintain that? There is no sinister next step, you're already living in endgame. They're just doing what they can to maintain the world as is.
>Yeah, that developed countries have way less pollution problems
Did you miss the entire state of Ohio this year?
>Fuck you I live in Germany
Then stop polluting planet with coal you fucktards.
It isn't a scam, you fell for the propaganda, we are about to live in the biggest and last genocide on this planet btw.
I agree with him, even if it includes me. There's too many people and many of them are worthless trash. The (dumb) poor and immigrants are a classic example but those middle class trash like those writers striking right now are worthless too
>doesn’t believe in climate change or at least doesn’t care about it
>doesn’t care about pollution ruining his country’s environment
This is the third world mindset right here.
>Go to China or India if you're that fucking concerned with the pollution.
>go to the countries with some of the worst pollution in the world if you're concerned about pollution
did you have a point to make here or...? retard?
Emissions are a problem, though.
You aren’t my responsibility. The planet has to die someday. Fuck you, I got mine.
>KEEP POOR moron CHILDREN STARVING AND STUNTED
Their own families do that on their own without our help.
Dare I say even better than if we actually tried.
>We shouldn't feed them because their families starve them, putting them in the state of needing food in the first place
Holy fuck you are DUMB. Like giga-ultra-fucking-STUPID !!!!!!
WOW!
>t. euro who can't doesn't know about American affirmative action
>>t. euro
Wrong, but I accept your surrender.
but leftoids are the ones who shut down nuclear plants so they could use fossil fuels instead
moron schools get a lot more funding than any normal schools, despite that morons dont learn anything because they are retarded
morons in general are a massive money sink and they do nothing but cause damage to society
Do you have the recent clip of a woman being completely oblivious and failing to comprehend she killed someone with her car and as a result is not getting the car back to go to work and is under arrest?
>how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast tomorrow
She is no doubt stupid but she was still drunk in that clip as well
First time I heard this. Do you at least remember any names/locations so I can try looking it up?
?t=1203
>you killed two people with a car, you're not going to school tomorrow, you're going to jail
>when do I go to school
Have some fentanyl, Chang sent it to Paco just so you can enjoy the sweet release of dying of an overdose instead of being an amerimutt.
Not defending that person, but they're clearly just high as a kite on pain pills.
that reminds me heavy anti-depressants got linked to murder. Turns out when you on happy pills you also feel more positive about putting a knife into someone you dont like
>I did IQ research as a grad student
>We did research on convicts in San Quentin
ah yes, I imagine their must be some sort of official documentation for all these studies right?... certainly the high IQ individual who wrote this wouldn't expect his fellow IQ giants to just accept his anonymously posted words at face value.
You have revealed yourself to be a low IQ individual by doubting your mental superiors. Us smarties have an unspoken bond of trust and would never doubt the big brained claims of each other.
Guards, take this mental midget away!
>I imagine their must be some sort of official documentation for all these studies right?
There is.
>Anon is past 120 and still shitposts on Ganker
Yeah that definitely checks out.
I'm not doubting that anon is full of shit, I'm pointing out that it exists.
What he's doing is pretending he's qualified, so that he can post his perceived results of that study.
Here's official research bits:
15% of the human population is clinically retarded.
Crime research says sentence severity doesn't work. Dumbfucks are like dogs and need immediate punishment while anything extended doesnt register in their head as a consequence to previous crime.
tldr: people are dumber than you think. If you work academia you just living in a isolated bubble.
that's the magic of 4chins. if you post something on here and you make it sound plausible enough, they will all gobble it up, no questions asked.
i don't buy it. there can't be people running around there who are incapable of understanding how other people might feel. they are just fucking with you, i'm sure of it. feeling for one's common man, compassion, empathy, surely everyone must feel this to some degree. also, i read some psychology stuff about how even psychopaths/sociopaths are able to feel stuff. they just don't feel it as strongly as the rest of us, so it's easier for them to suppress those emotions. in general, they just don't want to feel empathy because it's hard for them to do so, so they push those emotions away and just don't bother with them.
Nah no way thats real, no way sub 100 IQs are that stupid, this is just bait for retards like me to feel smart
That's it?
An entire drawn out greentext when he could have easily just said "morons" and got the same points across.
Sometimes reading Youtube comments genuinely fills me despair. It makes you wonder how some people manage to feed themselves. And those people are at least somewhat literate, so there's people even dumber than that.
>It makes you wonder how some people manage to feed themselves
survival, an animal with an infinitely small IQ can do it and reproduce, so anyone can.
>People can't understand hypotheticals
You know, I thought this was bullshit but then remembered experiencing a very similar example to what OP here gave.
I can't see colour in my mind's eye, personally. It's all various shades of black delineated by white lines.
Become a manga artist
I'm like a 4, it's not even an apple it's like a ghosty version of an apple.
Because it's a shitty twitter meme. Everyone can learn to see "1" in their mind's eye except morons they're not even human there's on difference between 4 and 1 btw.
Then there's the obvious misunderstanding if the picture is talking about actually seeing or seeing with your mind's eye, both are possible.
>DUDE I'M SO RACIST LOOK AT ME LOL!!!
nobody cares
>>>/b/
I think people misinterpret the question as "what do you see [with your actual eyes]" where everyone would be a 5, versus "what do you see [in your mind's eye]" where everyone is 1/2
I think if that's how people are answering it's an even worse sign...
>Make your own fun!
No. I payed 70 dollars (plus tip) to be entertained without having to do that.
Distract me from the void.
I don't understand how anyone can be a 5. Do they just not dream either?
I'm 5, I do have dreams, but they are just slightly twisted memories.
Worse than nightmares if you ask.
If you can see memories, wouldn't you be able to picture an object within it? I don't think I can understand aphantasia.
For me aphantasia means the lack of interconnection between your visual center and memory/association center.
Crude example - even if you have schizophrenia or use drugs, you will never have visual hallucinations because you don't have some parts of your brain properly connected.
What I really want to know is whether mind's eye is a normal thing for human being or do I have an underdeveloped brain.
>even if you have schizophrenia
schizos don't allucinate. they conclude they do because they are too emotionally unhinged and basically gaslight themselves with their own desires.
t. schizo
uhhhhh, you seem to be the unlucky one I guess, some other schizos claim to be able to independently visualize and animate things like
are you schizophrenic, schizotypal, or schizoid? despite the names, they are all very different from each other
that's how dreams are retard. you forget most of your dreams instantly as you wake up. they just remain as weird and twisted memories.
This shit is a forced meme/psyop , everyone is a 1 or 2.
I can imagine any aspect of an apple. The smell, the taste, the texture, the feel or weight in my hand. I can see it in my minds eye. I can zoom in and out.
I am just better than these people.
Depends. Is it green or red since green apples are so much better.
I can imagine anything. I am limitless. I can imagine a purple apple with giant weeping dicks coming off it.
Why are the dicks weeping? What happened to them?
The dick apples clearly have STDs. Dicks shouldnt weep even if theyre imaginary.
>granny smith
>better than red delicious
Fucking apple plebs
>red delicious
meme apples that are literally just bred for color and nothing else
Plebs all agreeing with each other. I'm not saying Red Dels are the best, just better than Granny Smiths. Any of the Crisp apples are the way to go for apple eating.
Cool, but your opinion is still dogshit, bro.
green is better, I agree. I like mutsu.
I wouldnt feed Red Delicious to a fucking farm animal. Absolute trash.
in my country theyre gradient, bit yellow and bit red
Now I want a blue apple.
Same
>eyes open its 1
>eyes closed its 3
what does this mean?
>teachers would tell us to close our eyes when they wanted us to imagine something
>never understood why because I could imagine 1 without closing my eyes
aphantasia isn't real
just like gender dysphoria isn't real
only artists can see 1-2. Only they understand 3d forms and fundies. All you idiots and actually 4 and 5s but think otherwise. Pick up a pencil and brush and show me
t.artist you know
_________________________________________________________________________________________(You) you so desperately need__________________
>can conjure fantastical artwork and music in my mind
>completely incapable of converting into reality
my greatest wish is for a true neural interface to exist in my lifetime so i can bypass my lack of artistic talent
I'm shit at art and I'm a 1, unless you include art that isn't drawing that is.
I am a 1, and the closest thing to art I've done is read a How to Draw Manga book my mom got for me when I was a kid. I didn't know what a manga was but the characters kind of looked like what I'd see on Toonami/Adult Swim so I gave it a read. There was an Ecchi section at the back. Thanks mom
Again, you are coping. Pick up a pencil and paint. You can’t do it and you know it. Thinking you can is easy, having a canvas in front of you and projecting it on material is completely different.
OP is a measure of mental visualization, not whether you can do something with that visualization. Art is half learned skill on top of that
The only reason artists can do what they do is because they're able to translate the world to two dimensions more easily.
Imagination is only a tiny part of what comes into drawing or painting, the vast majority of it is being able to translate an image to the medium using tricks and intuitive use of drawing tools.
So you're wrong, and your art is probably shit anyways.
i dont really believe anyone is truly anything past 3. there has to be some type of misunderstanding.
on the same topic. what do dreams look like to you? i remember when i was younger that i was usually unable to hear anything in my dreams, but ive grown out of that.
have you tried lucid dreaming?
This meme test is retarded because of how stupidly worded it always is
>IMAGINE an apple
>ok I know what an apple looks like in my mind; round, either red or green, a stem on top
>NO NO close your eyes and IMAGINE THE APPLE
>I can only see various shapes of light and darkness
>well you're dumb then lol
>he lacks the mental willpower
>mental willpower
See, more meme terms. Moreover there's no practical use for this "test". Why would you need to close your eyes to imagine what something looks like when you have actual memory in your brain to go off of.
Sorry I invalidated your pseud test
>there's no practical use
It helps weed out the soulless.
you are retarded
>closing your eyes
>he can't immerse himself enough into imaginary thought he isn't even aware of his surroundings
I can't just close my eyes and picture it. Usually just start to sink into my mind and that is where i can picture anything. I guess you can call it the mind's eye.
I though everyone could just see whatever they wanted. You know, just change the look of the apple in your mind.
The problem is using words like "seeing" or "visualizing" instead of "imagining". When some people get asked that question they interpret it literally, as if they're literally supposed to see an apple when they close their eyes, instead of just making a mental image of an apple, which is not the same.
>instead of just making a mental image of an apple, which is not the same.
So it is just memory then. So unless you're literally a diagnosed retard anyone can be a 1 or 2 because it's almost impossible not to know what an apple looks like.
Wouldn't it be better to just ask the subject to describe an apple? Not any particular apple, just what they think an apple is to them
Somwhere between 1 and 3. I can see the apple, but it's blurry
>imagine an apple
>okay
>so what does it look like?
>like an apple, round I guess
>okay, subject can only imagine form of an apple and didn't describe it thoroughly
>wait you didn't ask me more questi-
>NEXT
basically correct but it's even sillier
think of the last time you actually bought an apple at the grocery store
if you did, think of how many kinds of apples there actually are
"apple" as the subject is flawed because A) that's a common but not overly-common thing to see and B) there's too much variety in what you could imagine, so your brain defaults into paradox of choice
meanwhile if you asked someone to envision "pizza" they would all get 1 or 2 in the OP without issue
I think you're right. There's no universal thing every should be able to visualize so the test becomes too subjective to be reliable.
>there's too much variety in what you could imagine
Literal mental overload from too much freedom. Slave behavior.
Nah, there's not enough. There's too much of a too small category. I'd rather have fun in my head than the limited world of zelda
choice paralysis. it can happen to you too.
Analysis paralysis is the fun rhyming phrase for it.
I don't really see an apple, as in vivid red.
I know there's an apple in my mind when I try to, I can sort of grasp the feeling of it but it's not something I can SEE, it's visual in a different way. I can't explain it.
I see black from closing my eyes but my mind is focused on an apple, different angles of it. It feels like an overlay
No shit you can't see it, that's why people say 'mind's eye'.
I am convinced that any data on this imaginary phenomenon is entirely retards misunderstanding the question.
Honestly I think it's a wording problem, seeing or visualizing are poor words for it.
Retards not understanding a simple question is arguably worse.
Not really, since language is a very complex mental process and even people with average intelligence regularly are completely terrible at it.
Not really, if the person asking is a retarded probably not even Einstein would be able to answer it
If you can’t close your eyes and manipulate a shiny apple, biting into it, feeling the texture on your tongue and the taste, as well as being able to smell it, you’re a brainlet
If you don't have a 160 iq like me you're a brainlet
So the term "mind's eye" is just a loaded term that makes the "test" meaningless.
I've always wondered if there's some sort of miscommunication in regards to what "seeing" actually is here because nobody is conjuring up a photorealistic apple behind their eyelids, it's about what the mind's eye can "see".
It's pretty much this. you can spot all the low iqs as they flock to this pointless debate.
These are the people telling you to take the "vaccine".
Actually antivaxxers are not even 5, they see a pear.
How many boosters?
Back to pol gay
How many boosters?
I feel like this question is phrased wrong and that fact may be used by shitposters and people who lack introspection when answering the question to cause confusion. I dont "see" anything, but I am visualizing the qualities of a fairly real apple in my head, but its not like there is now a picture of an apple plastered on the back of my eyelids. There is a massive difference in the degree of the visualization if Im taking the time to sit and recall the various features of an apple, or if Im just quickly thinking Id like an apple right now.
well, no one is able to truly see an apple, like we do when we physically watch an apple with our open eyes. but everyone ought to be able to sort-of visualize on in their mind's eye, you know?
Honestly blows my mind that it could be anything other than 1 or 2. It's a 1 for me. And what is 4 supposed to even be? Like the transparent ghost of an apple?
all these people are retards that got gaslit into thinking they don't have the ability to think. if you ever had a single dream in your entire life, congratulations, you have the mental capacity to visualize shit just like every other human being on the planet.
I imagine a green apple. Granny Smith chads WW@
Granny is my #2 and the top sour apple, but you cant beat Fuji. It's too fucking good.
I knew someone who did stuff on the right. I more or less forced him to play a game with me like on the right, and he has never had more fun.
meant left, but fuck me, eh?
i understood it
but yeah fuck you
>left adhd riddled zoomer
>right normal adult
I do like right but I think like left.
What is that roll after the third jump? Holy shit I never even knew it was the in the game.
it's too easy because i like apples a lot so it's not fair
I have an easier time picturing green or yellow apples than red ones. Can a resident psycholo/v/ist tell me what it means?
not a lot of stuff in nature is red vs. green (grass obviously)
I am 1
SOMEONE JUST DEFINE WHAT THE FUCK A MINDS EYE IS
IS IT
>THING YOU CONJURE IN YOUR HEAD AKA MEMORY
OR
>THING YOU VISUALIZE WHEN CLOSING YOUR EYES
both are the same thing. each time you visualize something you're using your memory of it to aid you
Everything that goes on between your ears is based on memory, the processes of your mind are formatted to external realities. You don't think in an alien language, you can't imagine objects people or things without prior knowledge/data of those things. Even nightmares of weird shit are amalgams of things you've seen in ways your subconscious mind has arranged but your conscious mind may find unfamiliar
I'm a 1, When I want to draw something, I can visualise an entirely made up character or environment and even project it on the paper and draw "on top of it"
Weirdly I have a hard time doing it with real faces. I can't conjure the image of the face of even someone that I don't see every day. Let alone childhood friends. It's there somewhere since they can appear in dreams but it's not directly accessible.
>there are people who can hear their own thoughts in their head
>it's called an "inner monologue" and isn't just some fucking schizo shit
I always speak with myself in my head, when I'm deciding something.
Is that when your tongue makes motions inside your mouth to emulate speaking, but keeping your self silent?
I have inner monologue. Its absolutely borderline schizo shit. Sometimes I feel in control of the dialogue, othertimes its intrusive. I like to imagine the different aspect of my psyche as actors from a greek play with all the robes and plaster masks.
>othertimes its intrusive
schizo
Yes, borderline. We just said that.
Why do people pretend this is rare? People did it with Professor Farnsworth posts on /b/ fucking 16 years ago.
Your perspective is biased because you're on the internet. Dumb people don't use the internet. Hell, dumb people can't even read.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States), 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level. That 54% likely has a large overlap with the unknown percentage of people who cannot think, and you likely don't interact with that 54% on a daily basis (especially on the internet).
so you talk yourself through stuff out loud as you think about what to do next? that sounds more like schizo shit than talking through it in your own head.
Any thought I have I vocalize immediately without any mental consideration. It leaves my mouth as soon as I conceptualize it so those around me can enjoy my wisdom.
>Listening to the Joe Roegan podcast
>Some country singer talking about the mental anguish of intrusive thoughts
>Hes talking about random thoughts that I have all the time but just brush off as l'appel du vide
Man, lacking introspection or force of will must fucking suck.
People dont realize that phenomenon is common in literally all men but you're supposed to develop some discipline or strength of character to regularly deny it. That's a fundamental part of being a well-adjusted human and why people in the past believed in stuff like trickster gods or the devil.
>listen to the joe rogan podcast
>guest admits to being a weird brainlet
>"wow dude that's fascinating there's so much we don't know about the mind it's weird how they're just like a bunch of cells that decided you know what we're going to be a brain and start thinking thoughts like how does something like that even happen you gotta wonder if chimps and stuff are thinking thoughts like us"
it's part of his branding
>close eyes
>imagine ops picture
now what
Anyone else think in mostly images?
Yes. When I started learning english, at some point I started thinking in english, but it always was pictured as me sitting in a tramway, looking out of the window, and thinking about foreign words.
The ultimate tendie cope.
Asking me to design their game for them is not good game design in itself.
Ganker - Pop Psychology
I can draw 1 without a reference but I don't actually see a picture in my head.
I didn't believe this in till I realized how retarded zoomers are.
When I draw something I just reference it in my head, sometimes if it's a difficult pose or complex object I'll gather a reference but otherwise it's all my in head.
Yet I noticed a lot Zoomers want to be artists, a terrible choice but alright, but they literally cannot draw without a source of reference. Worse is their references aren't just a photo of the character; but literally everything.
>I need twenty references
>I need one to draw the shirt
>I need one to draw the shading
>I need one to understand anatomy
>I need one to understand hair.
And worst of all? They literally cannot comprehend that people don't need references.
In their head they cannot understand people are able to imagine things, which explains why so many zoomers cannot separate fiction from reality: Because they can't separate fiction from reality, so they assume you can't either.
It's actually tremendously easier to draw from reference, dude. Unless you have completely internalized the method and anatomy necessary to draw the particular pose or object it's always going to be easier to keep a photo reference handy.
Just work with the artist a little more and I promise you you'll get your big titty furry OC drawn soon.
>It's actually tremendously easier to draw from reference
Yes I'm aware it's easy, but I don't need it for everything and that's my point.
They need it to draw, I don't.
I can imagine and visual the vines growing between the seams of bricks, the weathered concrete with small cracks as time eroded it. I can visualize the grime, and dirt, and stains upon said brick wall.
They need a reference for literally everything I described, I can draw this from memory and imagination and they can't.
This isn't to say using references is bad, it's that they literally cannot use their brains. They need a reference for everything.
you are actually retarded if you think the vast majority of artist in history don't use a reference of some kind. you need to pyw.
You are brain dead if you think that's the point I'm making.
>if you think the vast majority of artist in history don't use a reference of some kind.
It's not about using references, learn to read.
I said they >NEED< a reference to draw, needing something means requiring it -- most of my peers don't >NEED< references but use them every so often. That's my point, you dumb fuck. They >NEED< references to draw.
When you play a video game do you >NEED< to play on easy?
again pwy otherwise i think youre just fucking braindead.
what is the difference between using them often and needing them? what percentage of the drawing threshold do you have to hit where it becomes not needing them anymore? because if you are using references often it practically sounds like you fucking need them and everything else is just muscle memory.
>what is the difference between using them often and needing them?
Good question anon.
I think it's important to remember that drawing takes time, but imagination is also a core element of it.
In art-school they often teach you the fundamentals, which is important for understanding anatomy. When you're in art-school, least my teaching, they told me to learn as much as possible about our world.
I think there's a difference between someone needing a reference to know what a character looks like, and needing a reference to draw anything. I don't deny that references do improve art, and I apologize if you assumed I was saying otherwise, but I don't need to use them to draw a person in the abstract. What I'm describing is the notion of basically tracing, and yes tracing is actually a normal thing in the art-world too for learning but it's about the lack of imagination.
Note: Not once did I ever say they were bad artists, it's just they need that crutch to be effective. Which was my small peeve. It's that they cannot use imagination often.
I'm currently drawing something, so hopefully the thread stays alive till then.
Oh I really really really want to see your drawings, gay. Either you're an experienced artist with a great mental library or you're a bag gay who doesn't realize how shit his drawing are. You know like most idiots don't realize they're idiots.
If you cant creat whole universes in your mind that are so realistic you cant tell when your eyes are opened or closed you are pathetic and not on my level .
literally nobody is anything but a 5. the idea that you can magically make pictures in your head is retarted and laughable, andbody who says different is just coping to not feel inferior.
>literally nobody is anything but a 5. the idea that you can magically make pictures in your head is retarted and laughable, andbody who says different is just coping to not feel inferior.
No one said this. But at least you proved that you do in fact have an imagination.
this "test" is retarded because it's full of misinterpretation.
the way the mind's eye works is not the same as actually seeing. it's pretty much a different "sense" entirely. there's not much reason to compare it.
imagined sounds come from the same "sense", which i find way more fascinating.
Seething 5let detected.
okay so then surely you have a name for this test or can provide some further information. the idea sounds interesting, but I doubt its as nuanced as you claim.
>I doubt its as nuanced as you claim
Has this ever been the case for anything ever?
if you're the same person who posted that comment, I'm curious why you didn't give me the name of the sense
I'm not, I'm just laughing at the idea of anything not having some nuance to it. You can extrapolate on anything.
there is no REAL test for any of this
the human perspective is entirely subjective and not something that can be observed from the outside.
it's all just rationalizations
I know a guy that's a 5. he told me the building mechanics in totk are useless and a waste of time.
Im guessing he also doesn't enjoy minecraft?
he fucking loves Minecraft
>can imagine the apple
>frequently converse with myself inside and outside my head
>didn't take the "vaccine"
True humans, it's time we rise up.
>can imagine the apple
>frequently converse with the apple
>̶̪̼̪̙̻̐ẗ̸̥̰́̆͐̾ḧ̴͍̜́̍̚e̶͓̼̥̭̍̐͗̂́ͅ ̶̧̙̗̺̋̈́͆̕͠ṉ̶̏̽o̵̤̳̝̚ñ̷̼̥̜̰̎̾̋̏b̵̽͜ę̸̺̳͋l̴̗̗̘͉̂͠ḭ̵̟͓̇̋͝e̵̼͈̳̖̋̔v̷̭͚̪̭̈ḛ̵̞͓̍͊̽͠ȓ̷̥͘̕ş̷̠̞͊̕͠ ̴̫̜̗̣͋i̵̬̿͒̿͊͘n̶͎͉̈̍ ̶̼̤̪͋͐̈́̋́ͅt̸̐͛͆̈́͜͠h̴̳̦̮̜̀ị̷͈͂̃̄̈͌s̸̛͖̞͎͉̹̉̀̔͐ ̸̥̭̔ť̵̗̙̰̬͠h̶̰͙͚̍͆r̸̰̉́̓e̷̛̮͇͆̓͌a̴̻͆̕͜͝d̴͎̤̤̳̔ ̵̗͕̄̕̚d̷̳̺͔̯͋o̸̞̰̫͆u̸̺͚̘̥b̷̥́̍͘͝t̷͙̙͌́̈́̊͝ ̸͙̬͚̝̖̐̄̏͐̏ŷ̸̭͔͎͒̓o̸̻̎̓u̸̢̱͛̂͝͠
̴̗͚̦̐͜>̵̤̻̞͎̓̋͛͝y̸̼̤̝o̴̞͈̒ů̸̦̐̇̉̋ ̴̣̖͗̔m̶̠͖̮̆u̶̢̳͓͎̓̾͒́͝ś̷̙̓t̷̙̜̝̪̽͛̆ ̵̨̩͎̔s̴̫͌h̴͇͉̗͗̕͜ͅo̴̢͙̜͙̭͂ẃ̶̨̥͚̱͎ ̶̙̥̣̪͉̑̓͒ţ̴̍͆̆͆h̷̻̫͐̋e̷̢̳̟̕m̷͔̊̾̑ ̷̫͒̐̃ͅǫ̴͉̺͖̯͋ų̴̠̤̾̿̏̏r̷̝̟̀͜͝ ̴̯̟͒͊g̵̺̩͕̳͂͐̓ḽ̴̤̩̽̀̐̽͘ö̸̖̑͂͗̾r̴̦̘̆ͅŷ̴̢̳͓́
>frequently converse
reminds me of when i tried to create a tulpa
>talk to what i imagined as a ball of energy that would take form later
>fast forward 3 months
>it didn't work
guess i wasn't schizo enough.
even so, i remember that having "someone" to talk to was pretty nice
i don't understand this meme. i can easily imagine a simple red apple? are there people out there who literally aren't able to imagine stuff? like, if they try to imagine a wheel or a wrench, nothing pops up in their minds? it's just all black and empty? i don't buy it, i think they are just fucking with you guys...
It's just bait
>he has to close his eyes
npc
1, though I don't even need to close my eyes to do it
>there are people in this thread that don't commune with the apple and nature itself
never gonna make it
any fivers have the loudest inner voice known to man, it's like my mind was minmaxed into fucking THINKING 24/7
>He can’t project an apple with his eyes open then materialise it into being through sheer willpower
Weak
>Can create entire stories in my head in full colour, voiced and music
>Sometimes give myself goosebumps
>read book
>have the way characters and the world look established in my mind
>official art gets published
>mind gets poisoned by official designs
i hate when this happens, most of the time i manage to revert after a little time though.
I feel lost when there is no official design or artwork. Might be because I mostly read shitty amateur webnovels translated by shitty amateur translators.
I don't think it happens with western books. They usually build a good image of the scene and character in my head.
>appears nowhere in any book
>refuses to elaborate further
I usually create a romantic scenario and get stuck because I keep redoing the the imitate part and never moving on... until I get bored.
>How do people play this game with no auto-map or waypoint markers? I get lost every time.
I dont think you realise how smart and amazing I am.
Of course I’m a 5. Why the fuck would I be thinking about a gay ass apple?
>I hunger
>I visualize the apple
>Its size and shape
>Its weight and texture in my hand
>The apple cries out, begging for its form to be preserved
>I do not abide by the apple's will
>As my teeth puncture the supple flesh my nose is met by the crisp sweet smell
>I feel the juices run down the corner of my mouth
>I no longer hunger
ARTIFICE
A MERE MOCKERY OF THE SACRED APPLE
Visualize your suicide.
>300 IQ
>can perfectly visualize all the master emeralds within my grasp!
>300 IQ
>still get beaten by a retarded blue raccoon
if you have a full color render brain you'd be playing
I have a 4090 to do that shit for me
>He can't bite into the imaginary apple in his imagination
>he can't taste the apple
>he can't sate his appetite and subsist entirely on imaginary apples
Yikes, you guys are dumb
Have any of you ACTUALLY had your IQ tested in an offline environment?
117. Meh. Im happy with it.
>literally nobody here has had the circumference of their cranial lobe measured by real phrenologist
>thread full of people with the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter
Phrenology is unfortunately not considered legit due to decades of gnomish misinformation campaigns.
>got concerned about brain damage from disease
> test iq
>145
still feel like i got dumber butl its even more depressing to consider you are getting a high score above 99% while knowing how retarded you are, after all what does that say about normies?
This is a trick question. It's 5 for everybody. It's asking "what do you see?" not "what are you imagining?" Your eyes are seeing nothing but black as your eyelids are blocking all other light from reflecting into them. But that doesn't mean you can't imagine a visual in your head.
I'm between 2 and 3. Apple isn't completely red ironically enough.
>he can't physically manifest three-dimensional objects into being using only his mind
Fools, the lot of you.
Get out of here, wizard.