This game was a tragic mistake
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how so?
one of the gayest games ever made
might as well be a spin off
>might as well be a spin off
It basically is. The premise was pretty stupid but it had an actually pretty interesting combat system. I'm not sure how much that makes for a tragic mistake, it didn't affect much that came out after it.
is the story good/worth finishing?
>is the story good/worth finishing?
You mainly play it for the gameplay, there's a little bit at the end that is kinda heartwarming if you've played the first game though
Depends on how much you care about Tidus and Yuna's romance.
Lenne and Shuyin's story is pretty much better and parallels back to Yuna and Tidus's own story.
how is it gay if it is filled with cute, sexy girls?
Rikku being the cutest and sexiest ofc
That's literally what makes it gay, you gay.
Liking cute girls makes you gay? Then does liking beefy muscle men make you straight?
Toriyama and Nojima should've been executed there and then. Kitase could've joined them too.
>mistake
Probably one of the best FF games with it's tons of sandbox content, best ATB job system, good music and 1000 words in one of the best FMV sequences in video games.
So wrong. Get fricked.
kys roastie
I'm a guy moron. Sorry, trannies live in your head rent free.
nobody mentioned trannies, weirdo
>tell me you like getting wieners up your homosexual ass without telling me you're gay
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT REASONS WHY A GAME IS GOOD. TALK MORE ABOUT TRANNIES AND PORN
Kys Black person.
Imagine being so insecure. High school is so hard for you kids.
>on a website for anime/girl stuff
>'Hurr durr, you're a gay.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Haggard%27s_Law
>we're now back to "anime is for homosexuals" phase
top kek
It's called context anon, I guess when you're a socially deprived autist something like context must be hard for you which is why strawmanning is so common place for sub 30 iq specimens such as yourself.
Yeah, my wiener never recovered.
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Name 3 final fantasy games with better gameplay. Of course this is just so I can laugh at you.
13, 13-2, 13 LR all have better gameplay
>13
>better gameplay
Okay anon, can we try being serious for a second?
>13
>literally have to play for 20 hours until you get full control of your party and even longer before you can unlock all roles for each character
At least 13-2 did a better job of unlocking everything earlier
>Name 3 final fantasy games with better gameplay.
>exactly 3
My time has come!
X-2's downfall is its execution. It's beyond too easy for its mechanics and you'll get overpowered without trying. As such you have no use for the all the cool shit except to see what they do and having variety. If the difficulty was otherwise it would be much more fulfilling and then I would say it's either the best or second best. However in history it was only in theory so despite its advancements and as such it heralded the end of the turn based FFs, because it failed to garner popularity despite the other story, character and tone reasons working against X-2. If the combat would've been sublime it could've weathered that storm regardless. After all being fanservice was actually in the roots of Final Fantasy since II with VIII onward being outliers at the time.
>X-2's downfall is its execution. It's beyond too easy for its mechanics and you'll get overpowered without trying
This is true for the main game but that's why you have side content anon.
the side content in every FF is fricking terrible though. only the bosses are fun. all the minigames are dog shit garbage.
>too easy
>the side content in every FF is fricking terrible though. only the bosses are fun
Goalpost moving. Unless you're not that anon.
>Unless you're not that anon.
im not
Okay, fair enough.
I mean I personally like the minigames since even if there not the greatest you get good items and that appeases my monkey brain with bigger numbers.
The bosses content is large in FFX-2 so I personally enjoy it. Via purifico and the monkey side quest is a pain in the ass though and FFX-2 is a completionists nightmare.
I wasn't going to reply, but the Den of Woe and Via Infinito are behind so much bullshit side content, that by the time you get to them you should be fine against anything in them, besides Chac, against whom you can't prepare.
And as for the sidequests themselves as an experience (and as part of gameplay in a general sense) I would call them pretty hokey and some painful, like calibrating the towers. I think I like them more than most though.
Elder Drakes are just as bad in the Via Infinito.
You're also forgetting about the monster arena anon. Strongest Shrina and Major Numerus are a pain.
>Major Numerus
>you gotta be lucky to even get a shot at a fair fight
What a shit fight that was
don't you just use the gun class and cat nip to kill every boss
>don't you just use the gun class and cat nip to kill every boss
in the original version, the remaster nerfed it by giving the person berserk
so its useless now? probably the correct decision idk how they even thought putting that shit in was a good idea
>It's beyond too easy for its mechanics and you'll get overpowered without trying. As such you have no use for the all the cool shit except to see what they do and having variety
wtf what about the 100 floor dungeon? Its where all the games challenge is bro.
I'm fairly interested in LR-2/3's combat system since i saw it has some kind of job system. I hate Lightning though. Should I skip 1 or 2 and go straight to 3 or how does it work ? Is the story worth caring about?
>I hate Lightning though.
I do too.
>Should I skip 1 or 2 and go straight to 3 or how does it work ? Is the story worth caring about?
This is difficult to answer. I'll say that the story was worth it by the time you got to the end of the trilogy. You're left with more positive than negative. However XIII-1 is abysmal in every way and it's really hard to encourage anyone to play it in good conscience. It could be a bonus I guess.
Lightning Returns is near exclusively based around the events of XIII-2 and without its context you will understand very little of LRXIII. XIII-2 is good storywise and it has fairly full recap in the opening menu about the events of XIII-1, that you can listen to without having to deal with its obnoxious characters.
I would recommend playing XIII-2 and LRXIII.
Alternatively if you want to play XIII-1, but don't want to experience one of its most hated aspects, namely being confused on where anything is, where people are going and why, what anyone's motivation is and who they even are*, you can start by listening on Youtube to Final Fantasy XIII Episode Zero. If it intrigues you, you an start playing the game and if it doesn't fit you, you can skip straight to XIII-2 just fine.
LRXIII alone I wouldn't recommend, but it's not an impossible sell to make, it would be fun, while dismissing the story.
*) Some consider this unclearness to be essential to experience the true XIII-1, so then you shouldn't listen to the audiobook beforehand. Choice is yours. You can take the risk.
X-2 is a pretty good and comfy game.
X and X-2 were the peak of FF, and it was all downhill afterwards.
If that's true it means FF was never worth a damn.
x is the only FF that I put actual time into and it is fricking DREADFUL.
This game confused the frick out of me as a kid, I always imagined video games as cool and manly shit for boys and this was so overtly girly that I couldn't make heads or tails of it.
Welcome to Japan.
It's a video game entirely told from a woman's perspective that prominently featured three women in all advertisement.
What the frick were you expecting?
Did this come before the VII spin off games or Advent Children as the first mainline sequel?
When the game says that I get a super form when i change to all jobs, is that changing all jobs in 1 single battle?
yes
>dad walked in on the massage scene
>are you winning son?
Rikku sexo
This game was so blatantly aimed at girls (and gays) that I never bothered with it despite liking X
Who gets the blame here? Both FFX and FFVII were completely ruined by frick awful spinoffs and sequels. Kitase? Nomura? Nojima? All of them?
The entire 2000s were desperate cash grabs yes, but they were scrambling to recover this this little gem right here. This was Sakaguchi's idea and baby. He ripped most of the funding and man power away from every game they had going except FFVIII to feed this pile of shit.
and even after that massive bomb Sakaguchi again showcased his talent directing prowess by incentivizing Nomura to do Kingdom Hearts 1 with Disney and promoting Matsuno to director/writer on FF12 before he fricked off and everything went sideways for the company.
Sakaguchi made mistakes but the fact is that he was the best at that company at promoting good talent and keeping them in check.
Unironically want a game based on this shitty movie for no grander reason but to have Aki Ross model exported and be placed in the most vile and degenerate SFM porn to be conceived
I'm pretty sure we can make that happen without a shitty game.
It's not gay, it's literally a game about the adventures of 3 young girls. No shit it's very feminine.
Also it was actually a great game.
That game was the death rattle of Square. Everything that came afterwards was some undead abomination.
Nah, FFXII is the best game in the series.
Its not even finished because Matsuno dipped out in the middle of it because post merger SquareEnix was a living nightmare to deal with.
>not even finished and STILL the best game in the series
I kneel.
>best game in the series
>shit and boring MMO combat
No thanks.
Wasn't it made by a different team? The game still felt unfinished since the director left in the middle of development
The remake for sure was.
I only play the game using PCSX2 with the Pbirdman mod.
I'm never playing that trash remake.
you didn't beat it.
>didn't beat it
You didn't beat it if you played the remake since it's not how the original game was meant to be represented.
it also wasn't meant to be represented on an emulator or modded, so neither of us beat it 😉
I 100% it on my PS2 back in 2004, so I guess I beat it more than anyone else.
What am I supposed to be seeing here?
they fricked up the lighting on her model when she lifts the sphere
Story wise it was accurate. What the frick else is a 17 year old whose only goal in life was a suicide pilgrimage, dead first lover/parents, failed forced marriage/murder, parental figures expecting their own child and celebrity for killing Sin/exposing Yevon supposed to do? They even tried setting her up with priest son's wiener to make her settle down after all of that. Of course she's gonna grab the closest three girls her age and moid the frick out.
>moid the frick out.
what
It's zoomer for eat pray love.
Is it true that Yuna cucks Tidus in that novel?
I think that happens after Tidus dies by kicking a sea mine that was painted like a blitzball
Holy shit so it does happen. I don't know how can people can like their romance after this
Yes, but it's to resurrect him. Then they break up in the audio drama, mostly because she doesn't want to sacrifice him,which doesn't make any sense,because he'll disappear without her regardless, so it should make sense in the eventually upcoming X-3 that Tidus & Co will catch up to Yuna before she cucks Tidus a second time.
I just want to play as Chuami. She's the only character besides Auron with a brain in the X universe.
>Yes, but it's to resurrect him
It still feels like NTR somehow. It's wrong. This is terrible.
I actually do believe Nojima has a legit NTR fetish, since he specifically wrote that Yuna had to think about Tidus throughout the copulation. This detail is too specific. In the context of Seymour, Shuyin and Brother Nojima has flirted with the idea throughout the series. Or it's just his hatred of Tidus, since he didn't want to revive him originally in X-2 and was ordered to do so. This could all just be revenge surfacing.
Do you disagree?
Lulu?
>It was just too hard to say.
>The teachings state that we can exorcise Sin with complete atonement!
>She's the only character besides Auron with a brain in the X universe.
The al-bhed did nothing wrong. In fact, they did even more nothing wrong than the church of yevon and yu-yevon himself.
I don't like ATB much so I prefer X's combat system
Game was enjoyable though, it still makes me laugh how every single fricking mission had a new minigame
With FFIII and V the only good FFs. Every FF (I - XV) aged like milk.
The first NES/SNES area are shitty compared to DQ. The PS1 area is on rails, X too, XII is boring offline mmorpg, XIII is call of duty again, XIV is bad written VN, XV is for backstreet boys and XVI is for old middle aged man that think that the 00s had a good fashion style.
>the game with the best job system gameplay ever made was a mistake
My favorite FF only behind FF8 of course
certified woman moment
Whatever...
>favorite FF is FF8
>Whatever...
>didn't play the real FF8
Oh no...
What anon in your opinion is the real FF8?
>opinion
It's simply the game with the original script
almost every FF game is fricked in translation this isn't new information anon. It doesn't stop me from enjoying the game in jp or english
based ff8 enjoyer
>It doesn't stop me from enjoying the game in jp
Well you never got to enjoy the actual story/characters from the devs
>based
on what lol?
on enjoying ff8
>on enjoying ff8
Well clearly that never happened, so not very based kek
>Well you never got to enjoy the actual story/characters from the devs
Why is playing the game in japanese now not enjoiying the actual story?
Cope ESL and whatever...
>Why is playing the game in japanese now not enjoiying the actual story?
EOPtard...
>playing game in english and japanese
>EOP
meds anon
i wish they didnt use ATB. I love the job system but ATB makes it go too fast and its hard to really enjoy the battles.
Game was top tier
Filtered normalgay shitters (You) and made sexually insecure troons seethe also (You)
13 year old me who bought it for PS2 thought it was fun
Thematically yeah it sucks, but it's still one of the most fun FF games to play.
Everything after 6 mostly has been with 13 being the sole exception because at least the party set up was interesting.
It got ridiculous hard at some point. I say when you give the players no options but to use a broken mechanic on an accessory, that's is a bad design choice.
I abused the frick out of the critical condition = automatic max damage accessory + trigger. They nerfed it in the remaster/final mix equivalent of the game to give you permanent berserk when equipping the accessory. Apparently the mascot dresses are overpowered enough to crush the whole game.
Although it made me feel weird playing it due to how flamboyant it was.
I would say it was a really-really good game.
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Why are there no mods gullsisters?
FFX-2 was the first squeenix blunder, after two decades of dominating the jrpg market in the west and delivering solid hit after hit. When you look back, the spirit within was the first poor business decision they made with their FF IP, but FFX-2 was when the games themselves starting taking a tumble.
>FF12 was ok
>FFXIII was weak
>FFXIII-2 was ok
>FFXIII-3 was meh
>FFXV was just ok
They only good thing released since was FFXIV
excuse you FFXII was absolutel shit, bottom barrel, they hit rock bottom there. XIII still sucked but it was on its way up, XV sucked again. At least XIV has consistently proven square can still do good FF stories but its an MMO sit so its audience gets self limited by those who cant see past the MMO status.
I wouldn't say XII is shit, but I am really tired of people proclaiming it to be anything more than mediocre.