this has really cemented the mainline games are just genuinely bad now. the "you just got older" cope really doesnt work when every spinoff especially the ones not made by GF have so much more effort and love put into them
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>Pokken is dead
>Sequel unlikely
What a crime.
It was shit anyways. It should have been 2D only and not the constant switching in and out of that shitty bullet hell 3D mode.
It was going to have it whether we liked it or not as it was basically Tekken: Pokemon edition and planned as such from the start. It's not their fault that people got salty it wasn't muh street fighter/animu fighter clone.
If there won't be a sequel it means it will become the battle system of the main games, which is better
Also it won't be dead until the switch is dead
the worst part about pokken and the moba is that they are both stuck on the one platform that literally no one whos interested in those genre has.
So you'd be fine with them cutting the dex to only 16 Pokemon and removing the entire campaign?
Or they could just, like, you know, spend more time, like, developing the game.
But OP said Pokken is good. So does that mean they can cut the dex to 16 Pokemon and remove the campaign?
>now
they've always been bad, you really have just gotten older
what am I looking at?
Pokken Tournament
They have ups and downs
gen 1: Good
gen 2: Better
gen 3: worse but still good
gen 4: bad
gen 5: good
gen 6: worse but still good
gent 7: even worse but still passable
gen 8; bad
gen 9: we will see
Most part of the time we have a good gen, some meh gens then a bad gen then it gets good again.
>You just got older
Executive meddling isn't proof I've outgrown something, it's proof someone fricked with a successful recipe thinking the mantle makes the success and not the sum of its parts.
>it's proof someone fricked with a successful recipe
why are we pretending the DS games are good again?
Yeah, look how badly SS sold because it got dexit-oh. Yeah.
I've been playing since Gen 1 and even better been old enough to be outside the catch net Nintendo pitched it at in Gen 1. games have gotten better, when looking at them from the perspective of a normie or a kid (the chief audiences). The problem is no c**t here is self-aware enough to understand they're obsessive, autistic manchildren, self-centred and seething *their* kiddy game series isn't growing up for them, isn't listening to them or in fact, isn't bothering with them as a demographic in the slightest. So they b***h and cry and cope they got left behind.
And no, the games weren't some paragon of JRPG design and the thing regressed after Tajiri stepped back, they were middling experiences erring on the side of young players (baby's first JRPG, before they grow up and start playing DQ or something age-appropriate), bolstered by the fact it kickstarted a phenomenon with the toys, cards, tv show and frick knows what else launched as one bombshell in the west after authentically growing in stature in Japan.
>Yeah, look how badly SS sold because it got dexit-oh. Yeah.
If only nintendo showed monthly active players rather than day 1 sales before returns.
SWSH only sold because it got more clout than any other pokemon game thanks to twitter b***hing and the controversy surrounding it. People had to see for themselves. Same shit worked for let's go that everyone wanted to see how badly it would flop.
>dude 25m people returned it!
What an incoherent, spastic rant. Ever heard of a sentence break, moron?
The past games definitely aren't perfect, I don't think anyone will argue that. The difference comes down to mindset, and it shows in the games they make. No one is asking for the series to "grow up", but just that they put some effort and heart into the games. It's unbelievable they could release something like BDSP after HGSS, or even ORAS which ended up disappointing many. Gen 8 overall is a low point in terms of quality which unfortunately sold much better than expected.
>Muh sales!
>>>>now
>NOOOOOO BUT BAMCO/NIANTIC/ETC DON'T HAVE TO MAKE 800+ MODELS EVERY GAME
Neither does Game Freak, especially since the beginning of Sword and Shield. Did you dummies know that Creatures is in charge of creating the models and animations of the Pokemon? That means all Game Freak needs to do is program them into the game.
Game Freak just knows you'll buy it anyway, which shows in pic related
You're still gonna buy SV anyway
i havent bought a pokemon game since XY
Last pokemon game I bought was ORAS. People who don't know to pirate are subhuman. You don't even have to not play it, I get it, you're a slave to your childhood memories me too, but paying for it is a choice.
Okay but Pokken is trash too.
>every spinoff especially the ones not made by GF have so much more effort and love put into them
BDSP exists, try again.
>directed by Masuda
Try again.
Hypothetically, if they used their billion dollars to make good Pokken-like models (say Monster Hunter quality), would it really be all that much to store on the Switch? I could see it being.
Enjoy your game with 20 pokemon