the worst part is that these retards aren't even rich they're just neets with wealthy parents. rich people understand what they spend their money on. do you honestly think any of the corporate shills itt understand how rendering works?
You're all poor to me, imagine thinking that spending some 4k on a PC is "wealthy" or makes you "rich"
Do you useless eaters even own cars? The cheapest cars on the market are literally 7-9k, double the price of the best of PCs
Ever paid a mortgage? The first payment is usually around 15 to 25k
Ever went to holidays? I could keep going, you're all either Guatemalan type of poor or retarded
It's 2023 in any first world you can pay your PC in various payments making it even more accessible
Amerimutt morons who live on food stamps are clearly not "wealthy" you're all poor and in debt, I bet you still have to pay your college, I literally live in the Swiss border to work there and I make more in a year than you do in 5 years, muttoid
Rich = Europe, that's why everyone comes here while all the shitskins indians and Hispanics go to your shithole
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
for some reason Americans have a hard time accepting that they became a third world nation during the George Floyd protests
>2 billion
obviously not true
would take up too much vram and both maya and blender shit the bed on such files, i know i tried pushing it that far so no idea how he would open them to check?
3k is not ridiculous, especially for a model that you can zoom on and blow up on the entirety of the screen. If anything, this model is lacking, but maybe there are LODs that are not shown.
Don’t speak so confidently about shit you clearly have no experience with. 3k is absolutely acceptable for a prop in a game
Don’t speak so confidently about shit you clearly have no experience with. 3k is absolutely acceptable for a prop in a game
>Don’t speak so confidently about shit you clearly have no experience with. 3k is absolutely acceptable for a prop in a game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you really think 3k polygons is bad, then go ahead, model us a sandwich for less than that.
After all, if chinks and pajeets can do that for a video game, why can't you to prove a point?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's literally right, dummy. 3k is pretty good for a game of this scope. Especially since the way games like this probly work they only render what's directly on screen. Everything behind you or not in line of sight the polycount or textures or both will be hyper reduced for performance. I'm not even a starfield fag. I just know how this shit works. Spouting trana shit instantly just shows you're clueless, too young to be here, a retard or all of the above.
"Acceptable" by modern standards is a joke. It's 30%+ polygon bloat on everything, not just a single sandwich. The textures are bad up close as well, so it really is a waste of resources to make a smoother sandwich.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, 3k triangles are nothing. It's even considered low poly asset.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You ignored the main point. The point that's it's a waste. It doesn't even matter if I have a 9090 ti free fellatio every month edition. The point is that it's a waste. Bad textures on a bloated model won't make it worthwhile to have that much detail on the model.
They really do hire ESLs to defend this game.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not a waste retard, it's a first-person game and you can view that model up close in your inventory, 3k is nothing for a prop like that
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
now multiply that prop by a hundred and suddenly the extra pointless polygons add up
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
3k is low poly for a character model maybe but not a sandwich lol. something like that should use at most 500 tris
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
alright gay, make a sandwich model with a 500 tris budget without it looking like a blocky mess
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
dont need to, someone else already did
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/sandwichlow-poly-64fbf7cc5b484f4590ce868175c4179e
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that will be perfect for my PS1 demake
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>character model maybe
bro what? 3k is nothing for a character model unless you some mobile game homosexual
>How is THREE THOUSAND triangles reasonable
Holy shit, look at this dumb gay playing games on a 9800GTX in 2023. Complex Warcraft 3 maps have models with 3k polys. What the fuck land of poverty do you hail from to think that's a lot? Did retard see a number above 2 digits and shit his pants in fear or something?
Considering you can inspect the item closely in the menu, that's perfectly reasonable for its LOD0
And yes Starfield does use a fairly robust LOD system, it actually fades to a lower LOD when you go in the menu for a while and you can see it popping back to full occasionally when you exit out, so you are definitely not seeing that level of detail at all times.
>no visual loss.
Every time I hear someone talk like that it's a codemonkey subhuman who can't differentiate between different shades of the same color.
Not saying that you're wrong in this exact example, but you should know that when you say things like that some people might find it hard to believe you.
I havent played starfield, but 3k tris is next to nothing. And if that's even the real sandwich, which people are saying you're bullshitting, it looking like that would be entirely the texture and bump maps making it look hyper hi res
doesn't look like the ingame model at all tee-bee-honest
modder here
there are two models in bethesda games, low and high poly
low poly is the one that loads in the world, and the high poly loads in the inventory for you to inspect
i haven't play the game and never will but looking at these models that's the best explanation i can give
I have a 1060 and I have 0 issues playing any new game, I'm never gonna play Pakifield but I've enjoyed BG3 on 2K, I also played Forza Horizon 5 in 2K High, 0 issues
Learn to use nvidia control panel kids.
>'m never gonna play Pakifield but I've enjoyed BG3 on 2K, I also played Forza Horizon 5 in 2K
Is this an intentional joke? Cause the exact same indians worked on both of those games.
It's so realistic, if I come back 50 hours later they're still there! No decaying, no fauna ate them, no one alive decided to just clean them up! Truly peek realism.
Right, which is why we're talking about a poly count on sandwiches and not light sources in mud puddles. We have the tech for all this fancy BULLSHIT but a god damn toothbrush putting your little GPU through its paces is fucking debunked, huh?
The diminishing returns is to do with graphical fidelity, not computing requirements you fucking spastic
You could make a perfect cube with 6 polys or 6 billion and it would still chug your shit despite looking literally the same. It's a problem with optimisation, not fidelity
No, that's a shitty model you made intentionally poorly in Blender to create a shitposting narrative against Starfield.
have a nice day you discord raiding chud gays
70000 faces for a fucking sandwich? are you fucking kidding me
modder here btw, i've ported outfits for fo4 and those are typically less than 50000 faces fuck off todd
No it isn't. Looks nothing like the in-game model.
doesn't look like the ingame model at all tee-bee-honest
You were asked to post the real one and you thought you could just wait it out and keep going like nothing happened but I'm onto you, you sneaky little moron
You're right, it's not the salami one but it's one of the sandwich variants in the game so it's representative of the tricount of the others in the game
3k is not ridiculous, especially for a model that you can zoom on and blow up on the entirety of the screen. If anything, this model is lacking, but maybe there are LODs that are not shown.
This asset has a much simpler silhouette, and is already at at least 1000 polygons (~560 for the part of the bowl we can see, and ~488 for the soup). FFXV is also 7 years old.
The food in FFXV is intended for close up glamor shots exclusively, unlike the food in Starfield which are all tiny interactive scene props.
And despite its lower polycount, it looks better than the food in Starfield.
>The food in FFXV is intended for close up glamor shots exclusively, unlike the food in Starfield which are all tiny interactive scene props.
The sandwich is shown close up in the menu
doesn't look like the ingame model at all tee-bee-honest
>And despite its lower polycount, it looks better than the food in Starfield.
The texture resolution is horrible in the posted image, and it has the same order of magnitude of polygons as the Starfield sandwich, despite it being 7 years old and on the previous console generation.
Then have low poly models in the game world and high def in the inventory instead of spreading pointless polygons everywhere.
I understand that your argument is that Final Fantasy old so Starfield having high poly models in the environment is acceptable, but it falls completely flat when you consider the fact that Starfield runs like absolute ass and having ultra high def sandwiches for absolutely no good reason contributes to that problem.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
people keep missing the forest for the three.
it's not "one sandwich" it's that every prop is similarly unoptimized. Sure, 3000 may not be "that much" but when you have thousands of props those extra polygons add up fast.
the game runs like ass, so why the fuck are people defending it? we have proof it's poorly unoptimized and people still pretend it's ok
You realise you can't beat the maloptimization of these meshes with hardware right? Buy the new card plebs, we'll just bloat the slop another level in the next one.
So which GPU company paid them to do this so that they could try and kill off older graphics cards that have the same amount of transistors as modern hardware?
Reminder, there is bethesda shills on this board who not only cried that this sandwich isn't in the game, but also that the 10 minute invisible wall when traveling on planets is a hoax and so was lack of swimming before the game launched
Do not give bethesda shills benefit of doubt, only mock them for being unable to even make a fucking cube properly
It's super easy to prove that the models are real but you'll never do it cause you know they're fake. bro takes the time to put together a collage that he'll post for the next 5 years instead.
>tfw ive been lied to when they told me i NEED to make models with good topology and low poly count to make it
fuck all the garden gnometubers that gave me ocd about it
This sandwich is in the game and slopfield is an unoptimized mess, cope pajeet
Go ahead, do some damage control and entertain us like the monkey you are
>it's a fake from reddit
Yes, but enough about you, outsider
Slopfield failed btw, nobody is going to play or remember this piece of shit when the laughter dies down or the next big thing comes along
>It's in the game I swear!!!!
Keep crying fag, you were too obvious and now you have to damage control your own thread, hence all the projection.
Can you stop crying about it? This isn't 2000s anymore you don't have to count every polygon.
Looks like Starefield damage control crew is in this thread!
The sandwich IS in this game
The models ARE all unoptimized
Most of the work on them WERE done by PAJEETS
The game is SHIT and nobody will remember it a month from now
COPE >NOOOO IT'S NOT THE SA-
doesn't look like the ingame model at all tee-bee-honest
Cry about it, you didn't convince anyone when you were crying that the invisible wall didn't exist or that the game had swimming mechanics, and you certainly aren't convincing anyone that the models aren't shitty slop jobs done by pajeets
You lost, get over it and cry like menchildren that you are
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Uh oh anon's having a melty
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Someone should extract the console models and see if the PC version was sabotaged by this.
The creation engine does not have nanite. Nor is nanite that quick unless you have a powerful computer to begin with. Also large poly counts still take up memory and storage.
That's the point. Using an engine that makes you worry about poly count is a bigger blunder than having some unoptimized assets. Bethesda is trash, just on a deeper level.
Weird. Since Nanite seems like it was tailor made for solving some of the geometry lighting issues that make working with raytracing a lot harder than it would seem at first appraisal
In the real world the performance loss is too much.
Weird. Since Nanite seems like it was tailor made for solving some of the geometry lighting issues that make working with raytracing a lot harder than it would seem at first appraisal
The creation engine does not have nanite. Nor is nanite that quick unless you have a powerful computer to begin with. Also large poly counts still take up memory and storage.
So far Unreal is the only engine that actually implements something like nanite, although Nvidia demoed it in 2018 for it's turing architecture GPU, RDNA probably supports it, who knows.
Remedy's Northlight engine has changed it's renderer to worth with mesh shaders but I haven't seen anything to show that they have actually implemented them.
I'm confused as to why nobody has implemented this tech in their games, Spiderman is an excellent use case, but nothing, Starfield yet again an excellent use case, but not done, If Metroid Prime 4 was moved to Switch 2 more than a year and a half ago then there's a good chance of it having them, Luigi's Mansion 4 will probably be the first non Unreal game to implement this tech because NLG worked with Nvidia for Luigi's Mansion 3.
Can't use nanite with lumen.
Lumen's virtualized implemented because of Nanite, they even mention that point in the talk they gave about Nanite.
It's WAY smarter than auto LOD. Also it depends on the polycount, most of my nanite assets are smaller than the old LODs+4k bump maps despite having like 4x the triangle count.
We will get to the point that Starjeets are arguing 120,000 polys isn't even that big of a deal, really every object in most games is made of 120,000 polys
You're the one trying to say 3000 fucking polygons is reasonable for a SANDWICH.
I could recreate that shit with 4 polygons and some bump mapping. Fuck you chud.
When you outsource to India you get Elden Ring, BG3, Bloodborne, GTAV, MGSV, CS:GO.
https://www.mobygames.com/company/14013/lakshya-digital-pvt-ltd/games/sort:moby_score/
The absolute cope, curry smelling streetshitter bhaRATS have never worked on any of those, maybe they cleaned the office of the people making those, nothing more
Sorry to break it to you, poos were responsible for modeling your favorite games.
>samefagging this hard >no sir you must redeem respect BhaRAT sir pls respect us we cleaned the floor of their office sir please show respect sir....
The only big game your diarrhea covered population has worked on recently is Starfield and look at the game lmao sir pls
>capture a cool ship >register it and modify it >rename it >some fast travels later I notice that ship's name is blank >try to rename it >returns blank name >whatever >play like nothing happened >now I can't rename any of my ships >several hours later I notice that bugged ship's cargo hold is empty >check saves >those where I'm on board of thr bugged ship label led as UNKNOWN >reload that save >I fall thru the ship because ship's model doesn't exist >fast traveling to the ship crashes the game
I shouldn't have redeemed the ship...
>Submit bug report >codemonkey wrangler has to find and reproduce issue >maybe finds it, looks up the string of code nearest to the issue >"Rakish5342", "Patel4227", "Puudo2324", "Sandeep5673" on the strings of code instead of the functions or any sort of labeling >unable to fix the issue because they have to track down not the function but the name of the immigrant that worked on that portion of spaghetti lifted from github
This is why 6th gen was the sweet spot for graphics. They were strong enough to look great, but limited enough that you couldn't hire pajeets who would go full retard with shit like this.
Polygon count is so easy to fuck up, you should have normal maps and tesselation as much as possible, but retarded pajeets don't understand and think more polygons = better graphics when often times it's at the cost of better lighting, atmospheric filtering, etc.
Ok retards, I'm a 3D generalist, I can clean up that sandwitch, just give me the .fbx, or whatever that shit is, and I will show you how to actually decimate a geometry.
Imagine being this pathetic over a video game. A piece of software. Something so insignificant in the grand scheme of things that this poster feels the itch to invalidate the hard work of the hundreds upon hundreds of people who spent years making a product.
Congratulations topic poster! You’ve displayed a level of pathetic so rarely experienced in the world, it should be used as a case study in the field of psychology.
Imagine throwing shade at a studio when the only contribution you have ever made to the gaming industry is to:
-be so pathetic about a game, you go on Reddit to shit post.
-committing the egregious mistake to think you’ve made even a difference in how much success this game is currently enjoying (over 1 million players alone in early access)
In the game industry, people like you are referred to as : Fucking parasites
Imagine being so pathetic, over some 1's and 0's. It's pathetic. Congratulations, you're pathetic! Wow shitting on bad meshes is pathetic.. what does this do for the world? Pathetic.. What does my comment do for the world? Nothing. Pathetic.
I just ate a sandwich. Bakery bread with ham, cheese, lettuce, and some mayo.
boring
That's already 70% of your daily triangles demand. Don't eat too much or you'll get sick.
It's okay, I'll play some ring fit later. The rings cancel out the triangles.
>daily triangles demand
what is that?
thanks
Disgusting
BLT is the only sandwich worth eating.
>no mustard
It’s difficult to determine whether a woman or a pajeet was in charge of optimising it
why not both?
I just had a grilled sandwich with cheese and ham.
Optimist for Series S
Unironically. Get better hardware
>Richfags defending corporate garbage and malpractices
Not surprised, richfags are always the absolute man children of the social barrel.
the worst part is that these retards aren't even rich they're just neets with wealthy parents. rich people understand what they spend their money on. do you honestly think any of the corporate shills itt understand how rendering works?
You're all poor to me, imagine thinking that spending some 4k on a PC is "wealthy" or makes you "rich"
Do you useless eaters even own cars? The cheapest cars on the market are literally 7-9k, double the price of the best of PCs
Ever paid a mortgage? The first payment is usually around 15 to 25k
Ever went to holidays? I could keep going, you're all either Guatemalan type of poor or retarded
It's 2023 in any first world you can pay your PC in various payments making it even more accessible
>Ever went to holidays?
esl detected nice larp
Amerimutt morons who live on food stamps are clearly not "wealthy" you're all poor and in debt, I bet you still have to pay your college, I literally live in the Swiss border to work there and I make more in a year than you do in 5 years, muttoid
Rich = Europe, that's why everyone comes here while all the shitskins indians and Hispanics go to your shithole
for some reason Americans have a hard time accepting that they became a third world nation during the George Floyd protests
todd pls
Better than a 4090?
Should have bought Radeon
I run a 4090 and can't get a steady framerate lol.
Tell Nvidia to fix their drivers.
go to bed todd
Shartfield is so poorly optimized that turning off SMT on AMD cpus the performance gain exceeds 10 fps, another Bethesda lie, Todd cocksucker BTFO
Good morning, sirs. Have you done the needful and defended Bethesda bastards today?
good morning sir, we complete sandwich model very good please do the needful and send rupees gangrape goodnight
already debunked, discord chud.
>detailed objects are .. LE BAD
yes
models like that can completely ruin the performance of a game for something you're probably not even going to notice
>ruin the performance
for poorfags
and that's a good thing
in this case yes
69K is higher then some player characters get
Retard, the problem is it has an incredibly bad topology
70k is 5 times the number of triangles in MGS4 Snake model.
Well japanese games are shit
still has a long way to go
>2 BILLION tris
>2 billion
obviously not true
would take up too much vram and both maya and blender shit the bed on such files, i know i tried pushing it that far so no idea how he would open them to check?
3D modeling is not necessary for games. 3D gaming was a complete and utter mistake.
nah this is
and you are a fucking lying moron piece of shit
That's still ridiculous.
Is this some kind of close up model that takes up 70% of the screen or something?
3k is not ridiculous, especially for a model that you can zoom on and blow up on the entirety of the screen. If anything, this model is lacking, but maybe there are LODs that are not shown.
How is THREE THOUSAND triangles reasonable for a FUCKING SANDWHICH?
41% yourselves
3000 fine. Not every game needs to look like Half-Life 1.
>Don’t speak so confidently about shit you clearly have no experience with. 3k is absolutely acceptable for a prop in a game
If you really think 3k polygons is bad, then go ahead, model us a sandwich for less than that.
After all, if chinks and pajeets can do that for a video game, why can't you to prove a point?
He's literally right, dummy. 3k is pretty good for a game of this scope. Especially since the way games like this probly work they only render what's directly on screen. Everything behind you or not in line of sight the polycount or textures or both will be hyper reduced for performance. I'm not even a starfield fag. I just know how this shit works. Spouting trana shit instantly just shows you're clueless, too young to be here, a retard or all of the above.
Don’t speak so confidently about shit you clearly have no experience with. 3k is absolutely acceptable for a prop in a game
"Acceptable" by modern standards is a joke. It's 30%+ polygon bloat on everything, not just a single sandwich. The textures are bad up close as well, so it really is a waste of resources to make a smoother sandwich.
Anon, 3k triangles are nothing. It's even considered low poly asset.
You ignored the main point. The point that's it's a waste. It doesn't even matter if I have a 9090 ti free fellatio every month edition. The point is that it's a waste. Bad textures on a bloated model won't make it worthwhile to have that much detail on the model.
They really do hire ESLs to defend this game.
It's not a waste retard, it's a first-person game and you can view that model up close in your inventory, 3k is nothing for a prop like that
now multiply that prop by a hundred and suddenly the extra pointless polygons add up
3k is low poly for a character model maybe but not a sandwich lol. something like that should use at most 500 tris
alright gay, make a sandwich model with a 500 tris budget without it looking like a blocky mess
dont need to, someone else already did
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/sandwichlow-poly-64fbf7cc5b484f4590ce868175c4179e
that will be perfect for my PS1 demake
>character model maybe
bro what? 3k is nothing for a character model unless you some mobile game homosexual
Steve has 72 tris
retard
Every frame of any modern triple-A game has a GPU rendering millions of tris, 3k is absolutely nothing, you dumb boomer.
>How is THREE THOUSAND triangles reasonable
Holy shit, look at this dumb gay playing games on a 9800GTX in 2023. Complex Warcraft 3 maps have models with 3k polys. What the fuck land of poverty do you hail from to think that's a lot? Did retard see a number above 2 digits and shit his pants in fear or something?
it's relatively reasonable for a detailed item
i assume they use lods for the world objects
it's not 2004 anymore grandpa, 3k is nothing for modern hardware
>That's still ridiculous.
no it's not
go back to Ganker
You first.
Considering you can inspect the item closely in the menu, that's perfectly reasonable for its LOD0
And yes Starfield does use a fairly robust LOD system, it actually fades to a lower LOD when you go in the menu for a while and you can see it popping back to full occasionally when you exit out, so you are definitely not seeing that level of detail at all times.
hl2 models back in 2004 were often over 4k tris
and its 20 fucking years later
That's not too bad.
yes son of bitch motherfucker!
no salami no cheese now real model sandwich!!!
liar son of whore game of year starfeld 6 million player!!!!
I bet that count could be cut in half with next to no visual loss.
>no visual loss.
Every time I hear someone talk like that it's a codemonkey subhuman who can't differentiate between different shades of the same color.
Not saying that you're wrong in this exact example, but you should know that when you say things like that some people might find it hard to believe you.
>i am prejudiced, based on something i made up as a rhetorical device
doesn't look like the ingame model at all tee-bee-honest
neither does the one you posted lol
so where's the real one, big guy?
something you evidently can't be trusted to post
what an utterly pathetic attempt at deflection lmao
Post the real ingame model or shut the fuck up.
good bait, or not idk it didn't get many replies
are you retarded you fucking cunt, its upside down
I havent played starfield, but 3k tris is next to nothing. And if that's even the real sandwich, which people are saying you're bullshitting, it looking like that would be entirely the texture and bump maps making it look hyper hi res
>Uses lowest settings to make the sandwich look worse
I fucking hate poorfag the game isn't shit your computer is.
modder here
there are two models in bethesda games, low and high poly
low poly is the one that loads in the world, and the high poly loads in the inventory for you to inspect
i haven't play the game and never will but looking at these models that's the best explanation i can give
Could be true, but we haven't seen the high poly sandwich yet, just the fake one.
In the menu screenshot showing the sandwich, you can see that the sandwich isn't that high poly, so
is the highest poly one they have in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if both the high and low poly sandwich images were faked just for shitposting purposes.
This is a fake that was being spread on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16kejfx/starfield_has_some_seriously_unoptimized_meshes/
man I fucking hate torchuds
Are proper 3D modelers too expensive for Bethesda/Microsoft?
It would hurt their ESG score.
if your graphics card is weaker than 2070 you have no right to complain about performance in new releases poorfags
I have a 3060 and Starfield is an unoptimized slop.
>GPU at 65%
>spend more money poorfag
Do it for Todd bros
I have a 1060 and I have 0 issues playing any new game, I'm never gonna play Pakifield but I've enjoyed BG3 on 2K, I also played Forza Horizon 5 in 2K High, 0 issues
Learn to use nvidia control panel kids.
>'m never gonna play Pakifield but I've enjoyed BG3 on 2K, I also played Forza Horizon 5 in 2K
Is this an intentional joke? Cause the exact same indians worked on both of those games.
Woah... So this is the power of modern game optimization!
and this is 100 thousand of them
It's so realistic, if I come back 50 hours later they're still there! No decaying, no fauna ate them, no one alive decided to just clean them up! Truly peek realism.
They're actually plastic sandwiches.
this is not even high quality, just high poly count. That is done in like 5 minutes with the right tools in blender.
Hence why some Gankertard did it in 5 minutes for the sake of shitposting
during quake 3's relevant lifetime, the highest detailed player model released was 3k tris
Haven't done 3D modeling in like 10~15 years and I can tell this doesn't seem right.
Jesus christ that's disgusting.
Some of you are just now understanding diminishing returns and it's funny.
>le 1800s statuette
Already deboonked
Right, which is why we're talking about a poly count on sandwiches and not light sources in mud puddles. We have the tech for all this fancy BULLSHIT but a god damn toothbrush putting your little GPU through its paces is fucking debunked, huh?
have a nice day retard.
The diminishing returns is to do with graphical fidelity, not computing requirements you fucking spastic
You could make a perfect cube with 6 polys or 6 billion and it would still chug your shit despite looking literally the same. It's a problem with optimisation, not fidelity
No, that's a shitty model you made intentionally poorly in Blender to create a shitposting narrative against Starfield.
have a nice day you discord raiding chud gays
70000 faces for a fucking sandwich? are you fucking kidding me
modder here btw, i've ported outfits for fo4 and those are typically less than 50000 faces fuck off todd
It's not the same model from the game, this is however
Discuck raiders actually went to the effort of (badly) making fake models and claiming they were ripped from the game to have new shitpost fuel
No it isn't. Looks nothing like the in-game model.
You were asked to post the real one and you thought you could just wait it out and keep going like nothing happened but I'm onto you, you sneaky little moron
You're right, it's not the salami one but it's one of the sandwich variants in the game so it's representative of the tricount of the others in the game
>it's one of the sandwich variants in the game
May we see it?
nice
The guy is trying to steer up shit. That guy. Trying to steer up shit.
I'm curious, how many polygons did the food models in FFXV have?
A quick search shows 'not that many'. Lots of effort on texturing though.
This asset has a much simpler silhouette, and is already at at least 1000 polygons (~560 for the part of the bowl we can see, and ~488 for the soup). FFXV is also 7 years old.
The food in FFXV is intended for close up glamor shots exclusively, unlike the food in Starfield which are all tiny interactive scene props.
And despite its lower polycount, it looks better than the food in Starfield.
>The food in FFXV is intended for close up glamor shots exclusively, unlike the food in Starfield which are all tiny interactive scene props.
The sandwich is shown close up in the menu
>And despite its lower polycount, it looks better than the food in Starfield.
The texture resolution is horrible in the posted image, and it has the same order of magnitude of polygons as the Starfield sandwich, despite it being 7 years old and on the previous console generation.
Then have low poly models in the game world and high def in the inventory instead of spreading pointless polygons everywhere.
I understand that your argument is that Final Fantasy old so Starfield having high poly models in the environment is acceptable, but it falls completely flat when you consider the fact that Starfield runs like absolute ass and having ultra high def sandwiches for absolutely no good reason contributes to that problem.
people keep missing the forest for the three.
it's not "one sandwich" it's that every prop is similarly unoptimized. Sure, 3000 may not be "that much" but when you have thousands of props those extra polygons add up fast.
the game runs like ass, so why the fuck are people defending it? we have proof it's poorly unoptimized and people still pretend it's ok
Peak dunning-kruger
ff 15 didnt look that great even when it came out 10 years ago
lmao the anal pain one single game can cause to an entire race of snoys never ceases to amaze
You realise you can't beat the maloptimization of these meshes with hardware right? Buy the new card plebs, we'll just bloat the slop another level in the next one.
a sandwich is more important than character models
Yes. Fuck footfags.
There's only three total outfits in the game that let you see feet anyway.
oblivion was their only game where they made detailed toes
since fallout 3 they've never bothered to make sexy feet
can bethesda just hire necdaz already?
So which GPU company paid them to do this so that they could try and kill off older graphics cards that have the same amount of transistors as modern hardware?
>unoptimized sandwich
Deeply unoptimized. The shit you Americans call bread isn't suitable for consumption by animals in german speaking lands. Absolutely vile!
why are they doing with models what they should be doing with textures? laziness? do they just not care? do they not know?
Reminder, there is bethesda shills on this board who not only cried that this sandwich isn't in the game, but also that the 10 minute invisible wall when traveling on planets is a hoax and so was lack of swimming before the game launched
Do not give bethesda shills benefit of doubt, only mock them for being unable to even make a fucking cube properly
It's super easy to prove that the models are real but you'll never do it cause you know they're fake. bro takes the time to put together a collage that he'll post for the next 5 years instead.
>bethesda defence force the post
>discordmoron the post
You also posted this in the other starfield hate thread you collossal samefagging gay
>bumps on page 9 cause nobody cares about his shitpost attempts
Sad!
>10 minute
2 seconds, poorfag snoy
Go get an SSD, they have been standard for PChads for over a decade
Back to your fucking gay discord
Indians hate him for telling the truth
>tfw ive been lied to when they told me i NEED to make models with good topology and low poly count to make it
fuck all the garden gnometubers that gave me ocd about it
>all this damage control from bethesda shills
lol, probably the same people who cry about baby face, too
derp
when the fuck are you retards gonna stop getting baited
This sandwich is in the game and slopfield is an unoptimized mess, cope pajeet
Go ahead, do some damage control and entertain us like the monkey you are
it's not even in the game retard, it's a fake from reddit
>it's a fake from reddit
Yes, but enough about you, outsider
Slopfield failed btw, nobody is going to play or remember this piece of shit when the laughter dies down or the next big thing comes along
read the thread before you post retard
Looks like Starefield damage control crew is in this thread!
The sandwich IS in this game
The models ARE all unoptimized
Most of the work on them WERE done by PAJEETS
The game is SHIT and nobody will remember it a month from now
COPE
>NOOOO IT'S NOT THE SA-
Cry about it, you didn't convince anyone when you were crying that the invisible wall didn't exist or that the game had swimming mechanics, and you certainly aren't convincing anyone that the models aren't shitty slop jobs done by pajeets
You lost, get over it and cry like menchildren that you are
Uh oh anon's having a melty
Someone should extract the console models and see if the PC version was sabotaged by this.
works on my machine, sorry about your toaster
>It's in the game I swear!!!!
Keep crying fag, you were too obvious and now you have to damage control your own thread, hence all the projection.
Can you stop crying about it? This isn't 2000s anymore you don't have to count every polygon.
Why can't they do something this simple right?
ITT: Everyone pretends to know anything about graphics/programming/game optimization
>they're going all out
Lol, control has been lost, saturation swarm tactic time
>worrying about tri count
>in 2023
>implying Bethesda has Nanite-tier LoD in their shit engine
>justifying bad development practices
Fuck yourself retard.
That's the point. Using an engine that makes you worry about poly count is a bigger blunder than having some unoptimized assets. Bethesda is trash, just on a deeper level.
Can't use nanite with lumen.
Uh are you okay Anon?
In the real world the performance loss is too much.
So not a can't but a shouldn't.
It's not even true unless you're still running a 1050 or something.
Or making for VR but then again you wouldn't use Lumen in a VR app anyways, since raytracing on VR at the requisite 90hz per eye is a big ask
Weird. Since Nanite seems like it was tailor made for solving some of the geometry lighting issues that make working with raytracing a lot harder than it would seem at first appraisal
The creation engine does not have nanite. Nor is nanite that quick unless you have a powerful computer to begin with. Also large poly counts still take up memory and storage.
So far Unreal is the only engine that actually implements something like nanite, although Nvidia demoed it in 2018 for it's turing architecture GPU, RDNA probably supports it, who knows.
Remedy's Northlight engine has changed it's renderer to worth with mesh shaders but I haven't seen anything to show that they have actually implemented them.
I'm confused as to why nobody has implemented this tech in their games, Spiderman is an excellent use case, but nothing, Starfield yet again an excellent use case, but not done, If Metroid Prime 4 was moved to Switch 2 more than a year and a half ago then there's a good chance of it having them, Luigi's Mansion 4 will probably be the first non Unreal game to implement this tech because NLG worked with Nvidia for Luigi's Mansion 3.
Lumen's virtualized implemented because of Nanite, they even mention that point in the talk they gave about Nanite.
Nanite is 30 years in the future for Bethesda piece of shit engine.
>nanite
>meaning you don't have to worry about tri counts
it's auto LOD, you still need optimised geo unless you want more 500gb+ AAAslop
>Starfield's download size is 125GB
it's fine
It's WAY smarter than auto LOD. Also it depends on the polycount, most of my nanite assets are smaller than the old LODs+4k bump maps despite having like 4x the triangle count.
>software rendering
>fixed points, no floats
It's time to go back, we don't need more.
We will get to the point that Starjeets are arguing 120,000 polys isn't even that big of a deal, really every object in most games is made of 120,000 polys
>discordmoron bumps his thread again
You're the one trying to say 3000 fucking polygons is reasonable for a SANDWICH.
I could recreate that shit with 4 polygons and some bump mapping. Fuck you chud.
Then do it gay.
We both know you won't cause shitposting on Ganker is all you're good for.
Breakdown from 2001 did it.
You're not Breakdown from 2001.
Do it yourself gay.
i fuckin love breakdown, jank as it was. i wish weirdo games came back instead of this open world shitpile we're trapped in.
When you outsource to India, you get what you pay for
When you outsource to India you get Elden Ring, BG3, Bloodborne, GTAV, MGSV, CS:GO.
https://www.mobygames.com/company/14013/lakshya-digital-pvt-ltd/games/sort:moby_score/
Those games suck
The absolute cope, curry smelling streetshitter bhaRATS have never worked on any of those, maybe they cleaned the office of the people making those, nothing more
you’re coping hard as fuck dude
>samefagging this hard
>no sir you must redeem respect BhaRAT sir pls respect us we cleaned the floor of their office sir please show respect sir....
The only big game your diarrhea covered population has worked on recently is Starfield and look at the game lmao sir pls
>45 seconds between posts
>S-samefag!
Are you a newfag or just blinded by the cope?
cringe, dude
Sorry to break it to you, poos were responsible for modeling your favorite games.
Automation is the future, no one cares about how few polygons you can make a convincing sandwich with.
>capture a cool ship
>register it and modify it
>rename it
>some fast travels later I notice that ship's name is blank
>try to rename it
>returns blank name
>whatever
>play like nothing happened
>now I can't rename any of my ships
>several hours later I notice that bugged ship's cargo hold is empty
>check saves
>those where I'm on board of thr bugged ship label led as UNKNOWN
>reload that save
>I fall thru the ship because ship's model doesn't exist
>fast traveling to the ship crashes the game
I shouldn't have redeemed the ship...
>Submit bug report
>codemonkey wrangler has to find and reproduce issue
>maybe finds it, looks up the string of code nearest to the issue
>"Rakish5342", "Patel4227", "Puudo2324", "Sandeep5673" on the strings of code instead of the functions or any sort of labeling
>unable to fix the issue because they have to track down not the function but the name of the immigrant that worked on that portion of spaghetti lifted from github
Resi 2 burger
photogrammetry is cheating
nothing is cheating
it looks soggy
I wonder if they made it look disgusting on purpose.
someday even you could be a game dev... wow...
are you indian? if not then forget it nobody will hire you
I identify as Indian (haven't showered in a week)
i'm not white does that count
people read my name and instantly assume i speak 0 english and talk slowly to me
but i'm american (read: monolingual)
To put that in perspective, Alyx Vance's model from Half Life 2 is like 10k triangles
This sandwich requires as much processing power as 7 Alyx Vances
>He fell for it
Shit's 20 years old anon. Did you compare Alyx to Pong back then?
I'm hungry now and I don't even have bread to make a sandwich.
What's up with new games fucking up the most basic things like polygon counts? Also, isn't there an automatic program to clean up excess polygons?
>also is there an automatic program to clean up topology
yes, quad remesher. or really any remesher.
Bread isn't good for you.
What about coffee?
It's absolutely demonstrably fine
>forced to bring women on to the dev team to meet ESG quotas
>make them spend 10 years rendering sandwiches
Based Toddster
i dont see a problem with this model, not all game pretend to be retro to have less time to work on the models
I have no idea what's real anymore
I'm just going to assume the sandwich is fake and Starfield shit nonetheless
If making bad games Was illegal, todd would get the electric chair on God
It's fake sir please do the needful and remove your false accusations against the Bethesda modeling!
This is why 6th gen was the sweet spot for graphics. They were strong enough to look great, but limited enough that you couldn't hire pajeets who would go full retard with shit like this.
how do you turn a sandwich thread into a pol thread?
Kneel.
lol
oh no no no no no...
this is on consoles btw
Left looks better.
idlate
The high poly count increases the flavor!
Polygon count is so easy to fuck up, you should have normal maps and tesselation as much as possible, but retarded pajeets don't understand and think more polygons = better graphics when often times it's at the cost of better lighting, atmospheric filtering, etc.
I've been starting to get into Blender for fun recently, how many triangles is too many triangles?
If there is 2 or more triangle then it is no longer triangle.
No way, this can't be real
it's not
it's real. India must be stopped.
IS NOT!!!
FAKE SALAMI!!
FAKE CHEESE!!
It's not, someone already posted the real sandwich asset from ingame. Who knows where OP got that sandwich.
where is it?
Modern GPUs can process billions of triangles per second.
You are getting mad over nothing.
Ok retards, I'm a 3D generalist, I can clean up that sandwitch, just give me the .fbx, or whatever that shit is, and I will show you how to actually decimate a geometry.
I'm interested. Do you have any low poly work to showcase? Preferably something often grossly neglected like fingers and toes.
Garten of Banban chads, when do we show them how it's done?
>literally playdough game
>runs like garbage on even the beefiest computers
i kneel
Imagine being this pathetic over a video game. A piece of software. Something so insignificant in the grand scheme of things that this poster feels the itch to invalidate the hard work of the hundreds upon hundreds of people who spent years making a product.
Congratulations topic poster! You’ve displayed a level of pathetic so rarely experienced in the world, it should be used as a case study in the field of psychology.
Imagine throwing shade at a studio when the only contribution you have ever made to the gaming industry is to:
-be so pathetic about a game, you go on Reddit to shit post.
-committing the egregious mistake to think you’ve made even a difference in how much success this game is currently enjoying (over 1 million players alone in early access)
In the game industry, people like you are referred to as : Fucking parasites
Imagine being so pathetic, over some 1's and 0's. It's pathetic. Congratulations, you're pathetic! Wow shitting on bad meshes is pathetic.. what does this do for the world? Pathetic.. What does my comment do for the world? Nothing. Pathetic.
>People calling the devs Indians as an insult
>When there are MANY talented Indian devs who didn't work on Starfield
Yes hello sir I agree there are many talented Indian developers just wiating to be hireed.
Do not listen to them sir, they are bloody bitch bastard.
Is there an option to disable sandwiches in the settings? We need an option to dasable sandwiches Starfield sisters!
I just want to say that I don't like curry and I'm tired of pretending it does not smell like shit. Thank you.
10000 polygons and 1 gb of vram for a sandwich lol
Can someone hook up renderdoc to the game and capture on the screen with the high poly sandwich please?
good morning sirs please install GTX 4090 to play STARFIELD™ :))
>Some autist in his mom's basement
>3,243 polygons
why are there leaves on those donuts
those are almond flakes you ignorant hog
yeah sorry, i don't like eating nuts, unlike you fags.
>amerifat has never heard of almonds
16x the detail actually means 16x the triangles with no added details
How many polygons does it use on PS5?