This is literally Fallout 4 with an enb over the top. What have they been doing all these years?
This is literally Fallout 4 with an enb over the top. What have they been doing all these years?
This is literally Fallout 4 with an enb over the top. What have they been doing all these years?
>This is literally Fallout 4 with an enb over the top.
No it isn't.
t. 90h in Fallout 4 and 48 hours in Starfield
>trust the slop enjoyer
No, I don't think I will
Holy shit taste
It is, but worse actually.
t. 1308 hours in FO4 and 60 in SF.
For all of Fallout 4's retardations, at least it had somewhat charming companions, dense environments you can all explore on foot, hubs weren't an eyesore and a headache to explore, and the enemy design allowed for an illusion of decent action. Starfield is worse at all of this. I get if somebody likes the Starfield setting or dialogue or silent protagonist more, but I'm utterly confused by people who think it does action better.
Yes, mods for FO4 could always build on the world already there. In SF I don't know what people will do. Maybe make more generic ship and station parts then do an Event Horizon mod or something.
There’s so much sci-fi shit to pull from what? Star Wars, Halo, Star Trek, Mass Effect, Dune, Doom, and so on
You're right, but I was referring to in universe stuff. Sure, porting/reimagining shit is always good considering the base universe is generic as fuck.
I mean the setting is so general that you could add anything and it would fit in fine for the most part. Lead writers pretty much said the world is just a mish mash of sci-fi tropes. Space ships, alien creatures, mechs, cloning, xenowarfare, time travel, multiverses, sentient AI, robotics is all canon within universe
Out of any other Bethesda game, starfield is most like oblivion. Oblivion went for a very generic fantasy setting look compared to Morrowind and Skyrim. The weird faces, the adoring fan, the hard close up camera angles for conversations, different lockpicking, slightly more in-depth persuasion minigame, grabbing but not picking up items considered stealing again, Star Trek voice actors. I think Todd was feeling really nostalgic for Oblivion as he made Starfield.
>no exploration
>soulless guilds
>no radiant AI, or even routines/schedules
>NPCs don't travel to different towns
It's nothing like Oblivion. It's closest to FO76
Played both, starfield has far better combat. It has better movement options with different kinds of jetpacks, mantling, and a combat slide, add in the starborn powers, different gravities, zero-g combat and how different weapon types affect push back. The AI is about the same for FO4 and starfield, with the exception that the AI will jump around to different elevations with their jetpacks.
It is, but better, ACTUALLY
t. 669 hours in F4 and 160 in Comfyfield
ENB runs better
It has better combat than Fallout 4, better factions, better environments, exploration, etc. It's far better than Fallout 4.
All of those are wrong though
This. Snoys will never understand, as it isn’t a movie game.
>better combat
sure
>better factions
not sure if better but certainly more
>better environments
NASAslop is way more souless than atompunk and the rest is boring barren planets. Akila and Neon are interesting but only because they were stolen ideas since Bethesda is creatively bankrupt.
>exploration
lmao
i'll elaborate and say the combat is better but in a 'this is to be expected' way given how many years it's been, its not thaat different especially if you applied some mods to fo4.
Saying it has better exploration is a joke though, yeah just run around soulless proc-gen worlds for 2-600 meters because Bethesda cant implement vehicles while a few autists who made Fallout frontier could, to discover copypasted outposts with the same spacers/pirates, boring caves or geological features.
>Saying it has better exploration is a joke though
I have more quests at the start of Starfield than I did at any point of Fallout 4.
And? What the fuck does that mean
More quests = more stuff to do.
Akila is retarded.
>be post scarcity, prefab 3dprinted civilization
>most historic town which was the hot spot of a new human settlement has plank and mud roads as their entry ways from the spaceport.
>this is still the case 160 years later when the game takes place
>everyone acts like they are still in the wild west.
im convinced akila is just wild west disney land and you werent supposed to kill the bank robbers with your guns which they didnt want you to take into their attraction in the first place.
AKILE IS THE BEST CITY
the union of local matirial like stones with moduls created the perfect mix, then the outskirt is real west like
Yeah it's retarded, even without actual paving that road should have been stamped flat from all the people walking on it, they could have just done some actual brand new colony to have that aesthetic elsewhere
>your guns which they didnt want you to take into their attraction in the first place
Why the fuck are there no firearms restrictions in New Atlantis, they even seemed like they wanted to go somewhere with some sort of firearms debate stuff with the one arms dealer in akila talking about people buying her guns and then going on shooting sprees
Mutts can’t imagine a city with working gun laws
>Working gun laws
I live in Australia. Which often gets praise for it's "working gun laws", we've had a workplace shooting and 2 public executions via shootings this week alone.
This is small fry stuff compared to the states.
We are small fry compared to the states.
The thing people don't understand is that social problems don't scale linearly but exponentially in regards to population size.
Those gun laws literally made no difference, New Zealand featured a deline in firearm related violence on par with Australia without any firearm control laws until Ironically that Australian guy shot up a bunch of Shitslamists, outside of that blip the data exists that shows that firearm control only creates a negative impact on the economy and personal rights and doesn't increase safety or even long term perception of safety.
100% agree, wrote a paper on this very subject back when I was studying Law. The idea of seeking to ban violent acts by targeting the tools used to commit said acts is fundamentally flawed and only causes a shift into various other means. The primary result of the gun ban in Australia saw a decrease in gun violence yes, but an increase in knife crime and hangings(most gun deaths were due to suicide) by a directly proportional amount.
>no firearm restriction
HOLY FUCKING TARD
do you belive you can lose the 2nd emandament in space?
do you belive space traffic will accept that?
cope
this is why they elected trump meanwhile you elected a commie retard and now your local gang can rob you
Well to begin with the united colonies isn't the united states and even if it was the supposed rights clearly don't count for shit you have entire government agencies whos job it is to violate that right.
which I wonder if maybe that's why they pussied out on having firearms restrictions for the UC, if they checked you for guns on entry the game would have to include a way to bypass it, and if you can bypass it in game that might get people thinking about how easy they are to bypass IRL
colonization is an not alienable right
colonization = gun rights at the same time.
even if they had to give colonists guns their would be restrictions in the capital
they try and make this conflict between authority and liberty between the factions and don't give the authoritarian faction the main sign of authoritarianism,
even if you go with the idea they aren't so much supposed to be authoritarian as bureaucratic that means there should still be some red tape on gun purchases
US still never banned gun rights and in a political situations where your greatest enemy grant that you can't risk lose support.
the bounty is a private one
all factions have different bount system
You have no fucking idea just how effective anti firearm propaganda can be when there's no way for pro firearm people to get the truth in. they even say in the game that Akilla city gets shot up sometimes which would provide anti firearm propaganda, the idea it would be in any way politically hurting the UC is absurd
>effecctive
always failed
The collective is seen as the beacon of people rights.
for every rights UC remove from you is more support for them.
in 100 years collective will be overpopulated emanwhile UC will be undderpopulate
Probably too hard for them to code or didn't want to put any impediment in the way of their all important main quest line.
Like, I chose the Wanted perk/trait at the start of the game, meaning I have a perpetual bounty on my head. Land in New Atlantis and immediately told upon walking into the city that I have no bounty on me and I'm free to enter.
The whole fucking game is riddled with stupid poorly thought out mechanics such as this.
>have a faction that opposes space globohomo faction
>made up of mostly white people
>all about freedom
>make their capital look rundown, shitty, and ghetto with mud roads everywhere
It was a very deliberate move by ~~*them*~~ and it is so painfully obvious
IS NOT THE CAPITOL
is the reunion of the council.
like an ancien city where who jsut hsitoricalle matter
AND IS PERFECT
THE UNION OF LOCAL MATERIAL WITH MODUELS.
masterpice city
>but muh
skylines are sign of corruption not of money making
Nah the factions are a lot better. I've done every questline but the rangers and they've all hit. Especially compared to fo4 and skyrim
> better factions, better environments, exploration, etc. It's far better than Fallout 4.
lol
>It has better combat than Fallout 4
Literally how? There is nothing more boring in Starfield than fighting enemies. Their AI is terrible. You do not remember Fallout 4 combat at all if you think it's that fucking boring. There is more choreography and handwork in kiting a deathclaw than there is in any Starfield fight.
>big rectangle guns
HAHAHAHA No fucking way. They still use this dogshit institute rifle design? What the fuck is wrong with these people? ahahahahahahahaha
They never fired the libtard designer from Fallout 4, what did you expect?
Jetpack alone makes it faaaar superior.
There were jetpacks in fo4.
Yes, but they were unfun to use, unlike the ones from SF which can even be leveled to be even better.
In a low grav planet the jetpack pretty much allows you to fly.
> but they were unfun to use
? No, they weren’t. Jetpack power armor was very fun.
Bethesda couldn't even program jetpacks properly. You lose all forwards momentum like a second and a half after you boost, even in 0.01g. Absolutely inexcusable, especially when it takes so fucking long to get anywhere.
>It has better combat than Fallout 4
>minigun
>taking 5 rads/sec
>still using combat armor
I can tell youre pretty low level here and this is bait. Heavy weapons are an end-game build. You need some kind of legendary mini that ups the base damage, like wounding or junkies, ideally explosive obviously but they're pretty rare. Thats why its endgame because by then youve got all the 5mm saved up and all the money in the world to throw at vendors and youve had your fair share of legendary spawns.
I didn't give a shit about preparation for the rad sea or about builds, anon. It was just recorded as a quick showcase of why Fallout 4's combat is at least somewhat engaging compared to Starfield's.
I thought you were trying to showcase how dogshit it was because of bullet sponge or something
Now use your jetpack.
Now use your jetpack. lol
It has about 0 (ZERO) exploration tho
It literally has a fuckton of planets for you to move to. And it's not just to find Stimpacks and beds, like in Fallouts 4.
It's literally only for med packs and other garbage? There is nothing unique to be found
You literally have a ton of quests that piss off the faction you are inserted in. SF has multiple ways to be played, unlike FO4.
fallout 4 is a bad rpg and i still prefer it to moronfield, spaceshit is painfully boring
I would like to play the game you are playing.
Because it sure as shit isn't Starfield.
BECAUSE IS A BABY GAME WITH NO DIFFICULT JUST FOR YOU
Its a mechanical improvement over fallout 4, but it pivoted towards no mans sky for exploration and some bethesdoids dont appreciate that. You got better dialogue, combat, perks (and their dialogue impact), evolution of settlements into outposts/ship design. Game mechanics have improved over f4, factually. Things like exploration are up for interpretation - there is plenty more to explore physically, but its arguably less meaningful than preset unique locations on a limited world map. There are also unique locations in starfield, but theyre watered down with randomly placed repeating POIs. The factions are hardly better - there is no real "joining" the faction in SF. It has a dialogue effect in some quests, but you can still join allegedly opposing factions, and there isnt really an either/or, plus the faction quest lines are dealing with side issues that have little bearing on the faction itself. The only exemption is the crimson fleet line, but even though you can technically side against them and eliminate them, its not on the level of picking sides in F4. Not to mention that with NG+ being intended lore-wise takes away the permanency of any choices you make.
Both are shit and worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas
This. Say whatever you want about starfield but to claim its worse then fallout 4 is pure gayry.
Nah, the AI in starfield is some of the worst I've ever seen. I'm disengaged from the game as a result that shit like better factions and environments doesn't matter when the core gameplay is so bad.
>It has better combat than Fallout 4
NO
It has mantling, that's the greatest addition they've made to the games in a decade.
So it's fallout 4 but with next gen graphics? Any more clever observations you wanna make?
no idea, but i do know they're about to be outdone by a bunch of koreans making a bloodborne clone
Koreans made that game? Based. Japan is starting to get behind.
>korean game
lol and how is this not gonna be more korean arpg garbage?
laundering money, duh
>What have they been doing all these years?
Eating
making fallout 476 in space
Cute captain, did save.
ITS NOT FALLOUT, FALLOUT HAS EXPLORATION. STARFIELD HAS NOTHING. STARFIELD IS THE WORST GAME SIRS
>Fallout has exploration
No tard, you speeding across the map trying to not get one shotted by bandits way above your level just to get to an empty warehouse with nothing to explore doesn't count as exploration.
These threads will solve third world hunger.
the irony is that the dialogue in starfield is way more enjoyable for me than fallout 4 simply because the MC isn't voiced
but at this point I have no idea if it was a decision based on player immersion or if they wanted to cut corners like with most of the game
ENB is a wrapper that changes post process effects, this isn't even remotely the same, Starfields engine appears to feature a lot of changes over Fallout 4s, you just need to remember that this is Bethesda and that they are incompetent, a lot of people think that Starfield doesn't have any SSS, but Fallout 4 did and Starfield does, it's just really poorly implemented.
Making the game of the year zero of course. Any more myopic derisive commentary you'd like to spew before your thread falls off page 10?
>re4 remake is slop
>new Zelda is slop
>baldurs gate 3 is slop
>starfield is slop
When does this board admit they’re not a part of this hobby anymore
You wouldn't understand; all the people with standards are playing AC6.
>anymore
I go in assuming 90% of this board is twitch viewers who don't play anything
Every gameplay webm of Starfield has not convinced me that this isn't just some big mod for Fallout 4.
Fallout 4 features significantly longer load times on the same NVME as Starfield.
NPCs now have full wrinkle maps
Starfield has the engine features to procedurally generate maps from a seed
New Physics
I don't see how anyone can think this is just a mod.
All that is cool and I've no doubt that the tech to simulate all the planets and moons is cool too but none of that translates to how the game feels to play
I never said it was good, just that they've clearly changed things more than what a mod can do.
You don’t have to play it, but your opinion is useless since you know jack about shit about the game. That goes for 90% of the thread too.
Apparently the same you have: nothing.
IS DAGGERFALL ZOOMER RETARD
Everyone I know has stopped playing this game.
Why?
all trannies
I'm not sure about that number of players. I mean even with pre-orders it doesn't add up.
I didn't care for Fallout 4, but it never felt as lame as most of Starfield has so far. I just finished the Freestar questline and the finale was a level nothing pencil pusher pulling a gun on you alongside 2 security guards in a ridiculously large hangar. Then you get your badge while two people awkwardly clap at you in an almost empty bar. And that still wasn't as lame as the Red Mile, where the galaxy's most popular bloodsport is being announced to two people in a casino with their backs turned, and then the entire thing is just up up a hill in the snow killing the same ice dog 20 times. As stupid as getting power armor and killing a Deathclaw at the start of Fallout 4 was, at least it was something. It's unbelievable the amount of money that was spent to make something where nothing happens. Fuck, the image in OP is from a quest that's just 30 load screens and 4 dialogs of nothing happening.
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>fun in starfield how?
https://youtube.com/shorts/qmVWMJY7bQ0?feature=share
>secret mission terminal
>secret terminal
>havent seen anyone mention this
>the terminal is in the open view next to all the benches and NPCs literally tell you about it
is this the quintessential youtuber in 2023?
I still haven't found the regular mission terminals, it's like they don't exist in my games world, everywhere I go they mention them and then I look around and nothing, there's blank terminals I can't interact with and that's it.
They're in bars.
gotta say while this game is indefensible slop that should never be played some of the women look alright
why you think fascism is bad baldur chud?
huh?
Did i miss something or the only choice is to enslave the colonists like an asshole or straight up buying them a drive from your own pocket like a good cuck? Fuck kind of diplomacy is that
Every Bethesda game released before Starfield is significantly better put together, visually speaking
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lair gay still use before relase screenshot?
pathetic
Your review is pretty basic and honestly kind of shit, but at least it isn't 2 hours of that same shit like so many others.
Starfield is better than FO4
I'm having fun. Sarah worships my cock. I just wish the writing was a little better. If anyone has done the UC Vanguard quest and chose Aceles you'll know what I'm talking about
Need CBBE bad.