This is the best Borderlands if you ignore the writing. Posted on May 22, 2023 by Anonymous This is the best Borderlands if you ignore the writing.
Problem is the game doesn't let you ignore it.
The gameplay is great, but the writing and story is garbage. And as said, you can't ignore it. You have to go through the same story every time you make a new chafacter and if sucks. Fortunately, the DLC are at least a lot better than the main story.
>You can't ignore it
>These two fools play without listening to anything else
When will you learn?
"Go to Borderlands3OakGameContentPaks and delete/rename the following files:
It skips all story parts and just lets you play the game without having to listen to lilith for 50 hours.
it also kills most player character barks and some random npc dialogue. I would pay real money for a mod that just lets me selectively disable characters but that'd probably be hundreds of hours of work.
If I knew how to unpack and repack PAK files without breaking them, I'd try it. I think my 'tism is strong enough.
I got all gold driver licences in GT3.
YOUR MAIN QUEST DIALOG ONLY SKIP MOD, SIRE:
GOD BLESS !
basado,, i got this free thanks to timmy and might try it now
Would be cool if this was possible for consoles...
The closest i could find is this: https://www.nexusmods.com/borderlands3/mods/342
Havent tried it so no clue if it works.
oh damn this one is new, might be worth testing out over the other then since you can pick and choose what to hear
The BL3 side quests and player chatter is not great but it's bearable. The DLCs are okay too. It's the main quest that is by far the most offensive, and with this mod you can just mute it and the mandatory dialogue sections like TALK TO LILITH last like 1 second. Cutscenes are skippable.
the lilith parts you still have to go there and press E and wait around
Is there any other game with story so bad people literally mod it out entirely?
WELCOME BACK KILLER
I'm really so goddamn sick of Lilith
This. It's the best gameplay but the main quest's writing is so in your face that it's hard to ignore it. Fortunately this is fixable with a mod.
installing this is a pain in the dick
>install plugin loader (1 file)
>install B3HM (2 files that go into the plugins folder)
>open B3HM then add mods by pasting their URL
>plugin loader CTDs the game on launch
maybe try this one then because it uses a different system:
Fuck Ava, Maya deserved better
I'd fuck ava if it just shut her up
>Whine the entire game
>Somehow get cool Siren powers and ownership of a spaceship
>get your own guardian killed purely through your own hubris and stupidity
>have the audacity to cause a scene at her funeral and insist that everyone else needs to be better
What vile, disgusting shit. I've always said she's just Tyreen but is arbitrarily designated as a good person
I hate Ava so fucking much, even if she wasn't the cause of Maya's death
>that horrified scream she does as she turns to dust
the villains get cleaner deaths then that, why did they hate maya
Because she was attractive AND male straight players liked her
Like the other anon said, she was conventionally attractive (Her BL3 design is actually better than BL2) and actually likable.
This. I used to mute BL2 and just run through stages to grind guns and shit when I was an autistic highschooler. BL3 doesn't even give you the option to lower the dialogue to 0
Are you me? Did the same thing in high school. Collecting legendarys was insanely comfy. In my first BL2 playthrough I never had a Legendary drop, but in BL3 my first playthrough I had basically a full inventory of legendarys.
Removed all the excitement of finding one. After a while I just started leaving them on the ground.
BL3 was dogshit. And is a slog to replay.
>make borderland games about replayability
>every game is full of unskippable pointless dialogue
I reached max level too fast.
Now I'm getting bored
The first guide that was made was about which files to delete to make everybody mute.
>just ignore the main part of the game, bro
>writing LE BAD
>procedes to make fan theories on the dark souls wiki
Any of you MiyazakiSlop lovers criticising writing is a laugh and a half
they can both be bad, stop being so black and white and fucking use some critical thinking you autist
You're a complete retard.
completely and utterly mindbroken
I want to play BL1 with expanded classes/new classes and more weapon models/types.
Never played 3, but some of the qol from 2 would be nice in 1.
It genuinely feels awful that there's nothing else like Borderlands that ISN'T a shit live service game
it's more surprising that Borderlands hasn't tried to go that route, they could have with 3 or WL
The whole concept of diablo-like games is pure distilled hamster-wheel "grind to get gear to grind to get gear to grind", and hamster-wheel basically equals game-as-a-service nowadays.
, I have no idea how BL3 and Wondrelands turned out to be proper games and not GAAyS.
I honestly wish Borderlands gave some degree of actual character customization, building your own Vault Hunter would be neat
if wonderlands is any take on their customization, that's what BL4 will have.
I doubt they would build a character customization system and just throw it out the next game, Gearbox really likes to re-use assets as much as possible. I doubt it BL4 will be on Unreal 4 though.
i dont remember seeing any of these in the game except for one of the dahl chicks? and the bloodshot gang guy
what are these from?
Some of these are probably just concept art that never made it in the game.
Borderlands 4 should really have their own unique Vault Hunter that is integral to the story and shit. The customization options need to really go HAM. I want to make these characters feel like my own shit. The accessories are often crap save for like one choice.
It's something I've always thought would be need even having "Corporation loyalty" as a thing but I dunno how much trust a modern game dev on that
Which is the most fun?
I still think 2 is a better experience overall. More content and endgame activities. But 3 definitely has better gameplay, even if some of the skill trees are a bit lacking.
Either Zane or Moze, depending on how you want to play. But all characters in 3 are great, you can't go wrong with who you choose.
zane or moze, the dva tank skill stays strong even in harder difficulties
i liked moze the most with vladof infinite ammo build
I enjoy Moze the most, although I have mixed feelings about being able to use the Bear as a way to quickly escape from dangerous situations I've put myself in. That being said, all of them are a bit too easy to play, so it's not really as much of a problem with her and just how BL3 is set up in general. Plus, she gives off this air of being weak to nakadashi and would desperately pull on your jacket for more/a kiss as it happens, and the idea of doing it while she's laying down in the Bear is 10/10
Don't forget that she's quite short and has a nice tummy
literally never used his clone ability, went all in on drone, what did I miss
I think his clone tree you could clone a copy of the gun you were using too, just at reduced damage. Still OP though.
the "reduced" damage the clone does means nothing, it's powerful enough to solo bosses by itself
but I want that number to go even higher
you're not wrong, but in the current market and with their past experience in consideration, the lack of substantial DLC is noticeable.
Borderlands DLC has been on a downward trajectory since the Headhunter Packs.
fight for sanctuary wasn't an expansion, it was a warning
it's fun to swap places and it pretty OP if you build it right, but the cannon/drone combo is most OP
his final perk is that. I'm curious if redux removes the -30% clone damage
Played them all. I'd rank them from most fun to least:
Tons of build variety which is why he is the most fun imo. Running around really fast like Doom guy or grenade spam with clones and drones is a lot of fun.
Pretty fun and a close second to Zane. Only reason I rank her lower is all of her playstyles revolve around the mech. Which is fine the mech is fun but it feels samey after a while.
Only playstyle with him I liked was crit spamming. Pocket raaks were cool but beyond that his pets fucking sucked. Maybe they buffed him but back when I played they were very underwhelming.
Only liked her elemental focused build. Her melee build sucked and I say this as a dude who mained Krieg in BL2.
Amara is for Maya users who can't move on.
It hurts so much Anon...
It's not fucking fair! How dare they giver her an amazing design just to kill her off so fucking quick for no real reason!
>all he can mention is her design
What a very deep character. So sad.
Anon, please for once stop being mean and let me grieve at least once.
Oh, yes. Borderlands. The game full of 'deep' characters, lol. At least Maya was pleasant to interact with. 90% of all other Borderlands characters have the most annoying voices and lines and will never shut up.
Yeah all three times you talked to her.
>Amara is for Maya users who can't move on.
This. Even have her specced with Maya's action skill.
T. Maya user
I loved the nova fl4k build with the guardian, you could melt almost anything instantly with that setup.
>salvador was the most fun bl2 character
>and im tired of pretending.
anon nobody claimed he wasn't in the first place, sal is busted
not even in terms of busted. in terms of just straight fun.
spamming as many bullets as possible hearing money shot get a proc chain from inconceivable as everything is literally just deleted. the many many many many gun glitches that are sal only. I love health stacking in op8 with brawn+legendary berserker.
not as good as just the typical health gating but it was neat.Permamnt gunzerker while all other weaker classes had to god forbid equip a bone of the ancients and still wait a few seconds. never bothered learning rocket jumping with him, but that looked like it had potential for goofy shit to do
That's too many word to say he was completely braindead broken.
take the mozepill
For me, gameplay wise Moze.
Charcter wise, Zane.
zane after you get the dlc class mod and moze because of the iron bear.
the other 2 are meh.
Moze and it isn't even close. I have a back up Zane but honestly I couldn't be fucked to go through the story again just to try out a new skill tree. Amara should have been a fun "fuck you" melee tree and then completely made her into a chore to watch and play. All Borderlands needs to be good is a SHIT TON of new, talented writers and to make your Vault Hunter *actually matter in the story*. I'm not playing anymore of this fucking title just to go through the campaign and get absolutely fucking shit on by NPCs taking all the credit for my accomplishments and never taking the time to appreciate all the shit I did.
Quit fucking calling me that. It's current year. You should be able to have NPCs refer to me by name and class. Seriously that's not cute anymore. The impersonalization of it all. You mean to tell me you have all that fucking written trash dialogue in game but no one thought to have Lillith call you by your first or your surname or a special title that isn't just "killer"? Lame as fuck.
Running around at light speed turning people into snowglobes with Amara's facepuncher build is super fucking fun. Maybe not the best, but I really enjoyed the time I sunk into her.
She look like uggo tumblr monke
This is the best Borderlands if you ignore the complete lack of post-launch content
Gearing in this game is fucking abysmal. No crafting system really hurts and target farming only being accessible through the chaos dungeons gets really exhausting.
At least the campaign is fine, if you really love the series then it's worth a playthrough.
I dropped it after about 6 hours and I loved the other games. I just couldn't find anything fun about the early gameplay unlike the other games. Is it worth going through it again? I have the gold edition too.
Idk, maybe try a different class setup. You're locked to the first class you pick but can switch out the second class at anytime.
This is the only BL with an endgame. Farming boss spawns is not fun.
Good thing Redux got released, and instilled new life into it.
Moze for sure. Initially I thought I wanted to do a mecha build, but eventually I became a crazed bomberwoman, where explosive damage would replenish my grenades. Torgue would had been proud.
no you didn't
you are, and always have been, a fat nerd playing a computer game
God I hate self inserters
>The people who play the game had to make their own New Game +
fuck chaos dungeons and FUCK tiny tina
I'm not sure I can see myself replaying this one either even though I enjoyed it
all the magic missile weapons and homing spells made the game a cakewalk
not to mention you can just get two followers if you pick two classes with companions
did the game flop or something?
how come we don't get any dlcs just some dungeons you can do over and over again with barely any story
That was the DLC though, I don’t think had any actual plans for it apart from making Chaos levels gradually more tedious
Gearbox thought WL was going to flop so they didn't went to invest too much into DLC and putting their hopes of a post-game into the Chaos Chambers. Unfortunately for the team, WL did well enough to make the lack of exciting expansions inexcusable.
Maybe it did well enough for Wonderlands 2nd Edition then.
I wouldn’t mind if it got sequels and they shifted away from focusing so hard on BL1 characters
that's where the first 4 DLCs come in. The initial game did well but the lackluster DLC killed WL's momentum, making a season pass 2 not worth investing in. Plus like
said and that ended up being an absolute sales failure, making it even harder to invest in anything BL related that doesn't play it super safe. also
>they shifted away from focusing so hard on BL1 characters
you will talk to Lilith and you will like it
Games shouldn't really need DLC anyway, and the only actually egregious exclusion from WL is New Game +, which shouldn't even have to be DLC to begin with.
what are you talking about? there isn't a ng+ dlc for wonderlands
unless I misread your post
Because Gearbox wanted to put most of their eggs into the New Tales basket instead.
>backstories suck except village idiot
>they changed backstories to make others better but don’t allow you to re-choose backstory
>gunplay is better than 2 but worse than 3
>No real endgame or reason to keep playing
>dude just ignore the story, the characters and the dialogue in the game and its actually good
No fuck you, whoever wrote this need to know they're not good at writing and in fact it did more damage to the game. It wasn't too long ago that a couple AAA studios talked about there being tension between writers and actual game developers, so if we have to take down an entire game just to get the industry to get rid of these talentless fuckers then I'm fine with that.
I had a lot of fun with it the first couple times but now I can't bring myself to start a new character because I played it so exhaustively. I mean the gun play is really good, but I found myself getting tired of the way the UI looks and still prefer going back and playing 2 and the Pre Sequel. I tried to start a BL3 file the other week, and it instantly felt so wrong that I quit and went back to playing BL2.
how do you go back to slag
Slag isn't a big deal for me because I don't play on Ultimate Vault Hunter because for some reason I don't go online and play with other people.
Don't all the classes have reasonable ways to apply slag? I only played Axton through the first two playthroughs, but his turrests have a slag upgrade which makes slag application a non factor.
Or does it become an issue later on when it's applied to you?
Also the writing was terrible from 2 onwards. Anything involving tiny tina makes me want to drink acid.
I have only played Zero and Maya, and am now playing Axton, but no I don't remember anyone having a passive slag ability like Axton. I've never read all the skill trees though because I just go by one character at a time.
Zero has slag kunai, Maya has scorn which fires a slag ball at enemy and ruin which makes her action skill slag enemies.
Wonderlands has chaos levels. BL3 has two takedowns and one raid boss, which pales in comparison to BL2's endgame content.
All mayhem levels being instantly accessible in BL3 was not the right move in my opinion. Say what you want about BL2's OP levels but having to unlock new ones through the digistruct peak was really fun. It could have been a lot better if the scaling wasn't so fucked.
Digistruck peak was hot garbage in comparison to the takedowns though
Also really another part of it that I forgot to mention is that it's too bad that I think Borderlands 3 endgame is just unforgivable dogshit. I like just about everything else about it, but the endgame kills replayability for me.
isn't the endgame just the chaos levels
There are two raid instances and some arenas. For some reason it feels like you can play Borderlands 2 just about forever, but after a certain point with BL3 I felt like I was stopped dead in my tracks.
Pre Sequel is the best borderlands if you ignore the writing. The oxygen jump mechanic was super fun.
The writting of the first part was awful, the rest was okay, and was quite fun too.
And I feel that it was the hardest BL too
Problem is the game is still a piece of pozz ridden aids.
>this is the best piece of poop if you ignore the smell
This is very frustrating.
they have to justify that very last dlc for 2 somehow
I don't know what that means, Anon
The guy is very annoying though. It's like he knows he has 45 seconds of screentime and needs to fire out as many POSSIBLY meme lines as possible in the hopes one of them catches on.
that guy has a role in the very last minute dlc for 2, lillith protect's sancturary or whatever the fuck it's called, it was released maybe a few months before 3 came out as a lead-in to 3's plot.
He's annoying and awful as shit.
Good thing that he dissapears for a while after that, and he isn't in the first two DLCs
>I'm sire Lilth'll be glad to see me! shes tight bro. Super Tight
there fixed your stupid fucking game randy
I can't ignore the fucking writing that's the problem
>literally just finished the campaign
>all this visual clutter
It's at this exact point (if not sooner) that I just cannot find enjoyment in this game anymore every time I try it. I feel like I'm having a migraine just watching it.
Yes. Video games are about the gameplay. Especially this genre
>explosive moze build
>no skill for immunity from own explosions
just out-heal it with your cloning maddening trackers
you DO have a cloning maddening tracker, right?
128% slide speed and the mod that skips 99% of dialogue is the only way I can stomach. amazing how a mod for BL2 solves this by just having a dedicated button for skipping dialogue.
fucking gearbox with their heads up their asses must have thought BL3 had masterful dialogue
also having to navigate sanctuare 3 50 times and speak to lilith is gay
>drive away from annoying npc so they shut up
>they just appear in your hud thanks to echo being a phone
>echo being a phone
this is the entire reason BL3 is full retard you can just technically call or whatever the characters but NO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO LILITH
and ignore boring vault hunters
and ignore that half the planets are just linear corridor
and ignore bad mayhem mode
and ignore sanctuary ship which is worse than original
and ignore no vladoff planet/major dlc
and ignore missing fiona and sasha
and ignore no TK Baha
>and ignore no TK Baha
I never played 3 - but this bro dead. Why would he be in it? Doesn't seem like this specifically is a valid criticism.
>I never played 3 - but this bro dead.
roland too but they brought him back for DLC. also jack is dead but they keep reinventing ways to bring him back - ai or doppelganger
>roland too but they brought him back for DLC
lol, the absolute state
>also jack is dead but they keep reinventing ways to bring him back
god I hate what happened to this franchise after 1. jack was the only good thing post BL1.
glad he stayed dead. they'd just ruin his character somehow.
>jack was the only good thing post BL1.
gunzerker, gaige, and presequel characters all better written than LOL BUTT STALLION
>and ignore no TK Baha
it's time to let go, anon...
are there any good bl2 revamping mods?
funny how the best way to play BL3 is installing the mod that makes the annoying twitch streamer villains shut the fuck up
SPEAK TO LILITH
>maybe I should give BL3 a shot someti-
>Space Required: 138.26GB
Reminder that the reason everything bad has ever happened in the borderlands story is because of Moxxie.
I would fuck her for eternity.
Nah, not that one.
The one from BL1 (or 2 I guess).
Reminder that Moxxi is the one responsible for Jack turning into a homicidal maniac. Lilith and Roland were sick of Jack and were ready to cut ties and skedaddle but Moxxi convinced them to sabotage Jack and follow him to the Vault.
why'd she do it
isn't the one most at fault lilith? or rather, he was already deranged, but she's the one who gave him his hateboner for pandora and everyone on it when she disfigured him just for the lulz.
she did that because of Moxxie, see:
it's been a while since I played the pre sequel, but why did they follow him to the fault again? literally all I remember is jack getting a vision of the future, then lilith steps in, brands his face and runs away. what did that accomplish other than pissing him off?
Bad writing. There's literally no reason for Lilith to not just show up and shoot Jack but we had to do an epic punch to show how Jack got his scars. They could have simply said Jack got his facial scar because he was too impatient with the Vault thingy and not have Lilith there at all and the story still would have worked but we need le epic female moment.
I don't get why peoe hate the writing I this game but praise 2's hecking epic wacky "when does the narwhal bacon?" style writing
because that is funny most of the time
Borderlands 2 at least had likeable characters with actual good story moments, and the humor wasn't on full blast at times. Plus it had Handsome Jack, who is an entire grade bump by himself.
>This is the best Borderlands if you ignore the writing.
Writing does its best not to be ignored.
Also levels are shit and balance is garbage tier.
But yes, mechanically is great.
can someone give me a qrd on why the story is shit? i played it when it released and the only thing i remember from it is that the twin girl and ava were annoying af but the rest wasnt that bad, did i just forget all the bad shit?
It's a comedy game that simply isn't funny.
>can someone give me a qrd on why the story is shit?
every single MC in that game is gay
Nearly all the characters are unbearably written. Lilith, Ava, the boss twins, Claptrap, Ellie, Tannis, basically every female character is written like some Californian hippie with rainbow hair. I usually don't mind if a game has crap story but these characters are unbearable, and the game doesn't really let you skip through their nonsense. There are too many times when you stand around and have to listen to their childish spats and speeches until it's over. I would never play this game again without mods that skip the main quest's dialogue.
>I usually don't mind if a game has crap story but these characters are unbearable
What makes it even worse is that the Sirens are only important because of the plot but to Gearbox all they see it
>We have GIRLS that gamers like!
And then they were quick to make them all fucking sound the same. They ruined the lore and exciting background of the Sirens by having just anyone be able to fucking obtain the power necessary. And you know they're going to do even worse damage to the series by focusing on them even MORE in the future. The Siren wank ruined Borderlands 3. Ava and all of the reactions to her absolutely decimated what good will was left.
First off, It's constantly in your face and forces you to wait for character to blabber away until finally updating your objective so you can actually play the game... only to do it again multiple times throughout the campaign.
Second, the writing itself does not respect the player character actually being a thing despite all the work they do for the story.
Third, they kill off Maya for no reason whatsoever (that could have easily been prevented if the player character actually had a role in the story) just to force this extremely annoying character into her role.
Plus a bunch of other really bad writing moments.
>Third, they kill off Maya for no reason whatsoever (that could have easily been prevented if the player character actually had a role in the story)
do people not remember the shitstorm BL2 caused for doing the same thing?
eh, this less has to do with the players themselves (because it was a sneak attack, somehow) and more with why the FUCK was roland not wearing a shield? (we know why because hack writing)
>new us aren't canon specifically for this despite it making the world less interesting
A strong character that people enjoy, who has gone through and fought a bazillion things and survives all these struggles gets one-shot by a lanklet in a cutscene with a random gun, who then gets the jump on another strong character people enjoyed (at the time, anyway), and you just stand there watching everything when you're very likely holding very big guns and have just fought a massive army of robots.
They jobbed. Hard. All the BL1 characters did except, what, Brick?
Nah, that was fine and a nice plot twist.
He came out of fucking nowhere and did it fast. You couldn't see him appearing because you had to be in front of Roland. Plus the player is kinda on the cutscene
In BL3 they just go on for several minutes, the player is nowhere to be seen, the NPCs act like if the player doesn't exist, and the cutscene plays whenever you're next to them or not.
Something worse happened when DeLeon gets killed. Everybody was thrown away on the floor while my character wouldn't have been reached by the shockwave of Tyreen's power, but Iw as in the same fucking room, like 1.5 seconds sprint and would be next to them
yeah that was weird too but i do think this scene happened so fast that its genuinely over before reactions kick in.
your right this was stupid but less stupid than the same thing but now 6 times longer and everyone pretending your charater doesn't exist when in bl2 least theres head movements like its a pov shot being talked at thing.
also people were just more attached to maya than roland from there games like i don't think people really cared that roland died that much and this is coming off someone who loved playing roland.
people really really liked maya so killing her would need more tact
Roland's death was fitting. Jack shows up and one-shots him in the back, killing him instantly because FUCK YOU BANDITS.
Maya died by trying to grapple a cosmic power leech. In a universe full of guns. Where she even has a goddamn ranged crowd control superpower loaded with elemental damage. The smart move was apparently getting into melee range. She was killed like an idiot so Ava could get her big girl pants later.
It's always weird playing as Amara in 3 because the twins are jacking off over their ability to absorb siren powers and you're just standing there t-posing the entire time.
Would you want siren powers that an indian touched?
it feels like 3 was a mess in development, the post launch content is overall less embarrassing. they probably wrote out this siren centric story shit but relized later down the lines people expect a new siren.
i remember pre 3 reveal we actually discussed a melee siren so many times so it was neat to get one
>Third, they kill off Maya for no reason whatsoever
And fast, in my first playthrough I got Maya and lost Maya in the same day.
There are some games where the player character feels outright disrespected. Like you're this god of death but the actual plot is you getting ordered around by a cadre of idiots who only exist to open doors and update your quests. Like you're not even a real protagonist, you're just some meathead the real protagonists use because they're too weak and pathetic to do anything themselves. I couldn't stop thinking about this while playing BL3 and it utterly robbed any enjoyment I might have gotten out of it.
Here's a qrd:
>All women are stronk, smart, beautiful, and independent
>All men are stupid doo doo heads
And the best thing is, almost everything bad happened because of their shitty decisions
nearly all of the game's dialogue is like
and it's spoken in the most unbearable smug ironic way, honestly you have to see it to believe how unbearable it is
the only moment when this game doesn't feel like a horrible attempt at ironic comedy is the agonizer 9000 boss fight, it's like a small glimpse into what the game could've been if serious, but it's like 1% of the base game
DLCs are significantly more bearable imo
>Ahhhhh.... i am dying... please help me fulfill my mission so i can die in piece...
>Ahhh.... yes, i am dying, as i told you before. I am actually losing a lot of blood. I am still giving you many pointers to the quest.
>Ahhh... oh man, this is really painful. I can feel my consciousness fading. Please press the button on that computer so we can listen in on their comms.
>Oh i'm feeling a bit better... nope, still dying.
>Thank you vault hunter, for fulfilling my mission for me. Now I can die in piece. *dies*
>Oh by the way, just so we make it clear, i have just died.
I might be paraphrasing a bit, but there's an entire quest like that. Possibly more, considering how they write this shit.
Watch a Youtube video about it.
>Talking very long about random shit is funny because I'm just that cuuurrrrazzzzy, baby. And we live in society, also you're a fag. Did I mention I like donkey's dong served cold?
I hate how poorly this game is optimized. It looks slightly better than B3 but it runs 3x worse. Fucking Doom Eternal came out around the same time and runs 3x better while looking 3x more graphically impressive.
I can tolerate it, even if its a slog I do consider DLC writing to be much better, even if its by no means great
When they figure out if they're going to go with the Nyriad storyline from BL3 or The Watcher storyline from TPS.
Where should the story have gone after BL1?
Or should it have just stopped there?
Honestly it should have just been finding other vaults on other planets after that and skipping the character wanking storylines of 2 and 3. The roster from 1 was a bunch of psychopaths who fit the environment, trying to milk an emotional story out of them was a mistake, especially since most of the effective darkness from the setting came from how brokenly people just admitted that everything is fucked beyond repair and then return to whatever insane rant they were on.
Hyperion and maybe Handsome Jack were planned since the first game. The original lead writer had a stroke and needed to be replaced quickly for the second game.
I'm still mad Angel was a real person and not a satellite in space.
It was so cool to have that little plot twist in the first game be that she was just some satellite AI, and having that twist be twist a second time in BL2 that she's some rando siren, ehh.
Keep the Space Western feel, explore more into the Eridian lore, keep the megacorps as vague godlike entities in the universe.
Borderlands 2 is best just for this DLC alone
BL3's DLC quality on average is better in my mind but Dragon Keep is still the #1 DLC of Borderlands
>they ackshually did it
It wasn't as cool as it could have been because they had some dumb drama before it, but I still smiled.
that's why the new game is the best
>tried to play the standalone version that was given away for free
>couldn't even make it to the main menu as I would be stuck "creating online session"
>couldn't find any support posts about anyone else having a similar problem
i need to find out how to mod this game's level scaling into BL2, it's actually perfect
The Borderlands series will always be incomplete until someone makes Tiny Tina nude mods or playable Tiny Tina
No. Weapons feel like shit now. SFX sound submerged now, enemies go down too easy to make good weapons feel powerful, character skills are so chaotic they just delete everything
>Ignore the writing
Sorry bud you can't play that way.
RPG? It's a looter shooter only
>If I make up a term and pretend it's not connected to RPGs it stops being one
>this one is the best if you ignore its massive flaws
laying out some hot truths there.
reminder that the borderlands series is STILL the best looter shooter on the market
if your so called "looter shooter" has any of the following elements:
>forced mmo elements
>Destiny 1, 2
then it's not a true looter shooter and never will be
That's what it is.
no anon, it's a shlooter
I'm going to give you a shlooting if you don't shut the fuck up
For me it was Wonderlands and dual classing
>Dual wielding spells with constant lifesteal
>Barely even use guns at all
who is worse overall, tiny tina or ava
Tiny Tina by far and away. Ava is a side character, Tina is bordering on mascot.
I would've loved to hear them singing the song in the game.
It's funny and cute
I am still so fucking mad that TPS' development got cut short.
I couldn't get past the Australian accents.
Filtered me very fast.
>Get Dahl Revolver
>It is painted Jakobs colored
>Shits out a billion damage and has no recoil
>Get tediore gun
>You throw it when you reload
>Is completely indistinguishable from any other tediore gun
I feel like most of the guns I'm using in BL3 are dahl so far.
Swing and a miss there chief but yeah, low recoil on gun equal good gun
shouldn't you just ignore the writing in every borderlands?
It wasnt the best but it was at least entertaining and some of the jokes were somewhat funny. The story in 3 was just really annoying and none of the jokes were funny.
Being a Duke Nukem fan is pain.
I'm surprised he was never added to one of the borderlands games as a dlc character.
Eh, something like that would have taken too much effort.
at least, DN has some decent spiritual successors like Ion Fury, unlike BL like
I miss my midget...
>nomad death scream
>I miss my hold mouse button to win
You don't say.
>THAT AINT GONNA HELP YA
>goliath: YOU'RE A COWARD COMMANDO
>gunzerk in front of a raging goliath
>"THAT'S JUST TWO MORE THINGS FOR ME TO SHOVE UP YOUR ASS!"
I knew the soul was gone when I saw my first "tink".
i just replayed though bl1
and the most bizzare experience was general knoxx dlc prison part. i completely forgot the only gay character in 1 was a joke because haha hes in prison and loves boys and talking about boys and doing nails or the claptrap in chains screaming he didn't know she wasn't legal.
its not the most edgy shit possible or anything like that but how far we have fallen
I'm convinced that Gearbox intentionally made her look like she has fetal alcohol syndrome just to stop people from making porn of her.
why do people think they can stop porn
>This is the best Borderlands if you ignore the writing.
And the scaling. And the lootsystem. And all the planets after promethea. And the shitty TVHM. And mayhem. And half the action skills just being reused from previous vaulthunters. And all the sanctuary 3 sequences.
I'm the conductor of the poop train!
why didn't he save his girlfriend?
how does the borderlands 2 ultra HD texture pack look
>Borderlands is the only game of it's kind that isn't aggressively monetized garbage
>Battlefield is still the only decent combined arms shooter with people actually playing it
it's not fair
>get mildly invested in the world and characters after playing 1,2, TPS and Tales
>my interest is rewarded with borderlands 3
>which massacres every character, kills all the good ones, and features the shittiest group of vault hunters
i should just stop liking things
at least lilith is dead
IMAGINE believing that they """"""killed"""""" Lilith. The DLC with Ava says that she's still alive.
Interestingly the Krieg DLC implies that Maya can be brought back through her Book. The Krieg DLC also says that Maya dyes her hair blue.
you should know by now Handsome Jack was a fluke because he made the character his own instead of just reading his lines
that's why they took the one good character they ever made and brought him back for three more games after his canonical death. Handsome Jackpot felt so unbelievably phoned in
>don't bring him back for Wonderlands
>instead get Wojak Horseman
I knew this shit was going south by 2, when they made Mordecai a cuck with a small dick
also, why did they make fl4k so annoying at times
I can't ever remember the fat thing from the game and I played as him. The nonbinary thing seemed like a marketing stunt as I don't really remember it coming up ingame either.
He flirts with Ellie
It's simple throw-away dialog, but I still hate it
With everything being so in your face, I've grown quick to get disgusted at even a single line
Guys is wonderlands worth it?
on sale probably
deep sale. like $20 deep.
It's never going that deep until another Borderlands game releases.
patience is a virtue
It was literally free on steam like a month ago lol
That was the Dragon Keep standalone DLC, not Tiny Tina's Wonderlands.
Copypasta of a comment I made in a different thread
Endgame Moze is some of the most braindead fun I've ever had in a video game
>Strongest tier 1 skill in Borderlands history (Fire in the Skag Den) you used to get over 20x damage on splash damage weapons with FitSD and Short Fuse skills combined but I think they nerfed it slightly but it's still insanely strong
>Sprint for like 0.5 seconds before shooting to heal(heals for a percentage but you do like 100mil damage so it's a full heal)
>Action Skill is so busted with scaling you can just go to endgame Mayhem 10/11 without any guns and start farming
>Iron Bear shreds pretty much everything and can be specced to have pretty much 100% uptime
>Most end game viable legendary class coms of any character and by a solid margin
>Only out DPS'd by Zane in certain situations with his Eraser procs
Literally the only way to die is to shoot your splash damage weapons too close to yourself but there are retardedly powerful splash weapon guns that don't damage you that they added to entice people to get the DLCs.
Too bad about BL3 having one of the worst stories and some of the worst dialogue in all of gaming. I would honestly recommend anyone new to the game just download an endgame save and avoid the story/narrative all together
For me Moze was always the least favorite Character out of the 4 to use because of her skill. Everyone had mostly instant skills that you can use while running around but Moze always had to stand still for a second to start it and to stop it.
I will say that if you're using auto-bear then it is a bit clunky but the majority of the time you're supposed to stay in iron bear for the full duration. It's a long action skill for a reason.
Or you could just use iron cub which instantly activates.
She's just an uninspired D.Va ripoff anyway, the only way to make her somewhat interesting is the DLC skill tree that makes the mech a pet instead of a vehicle
>mech a pet
>PTSD flashbacks from BL2 with Cla...Deathtrap getting stuck everywhere, chasing some varkids in the stratosphere, refilling shield to bandits, spamming his laser onto bugged enemies under textures, killing you with Robot Rampage+Sharing is Caring+Love Thumper combo, all in all being the best robot ever
Never used her in that way, but I'm currently using her to get the most time of Iron Bear available, and to make him shoot the railgun.and the nuclear bomb.
He fucking destroys everything and never dies
>Turn off subtitles
Only way to play the game
>for an fps it feels amazing to play
>Can't play as krieg
The most surprising thing about this game is that the Lovecraft DLC that also has a gay marriage in it was very well done
All the DLCs have better stories than the base game, it's funny.
Denuvo got removed from the game in a recent update.
The two DLCs I've played so far (Handsome Casino and the Lovecraftian ones) are way better than the main campaign and gave the vault hunters more personality too
Is there a mod that backports the pre-sequel classes into 2 or vice versa yet?
Doppleganger was the most fun I ever had in these games, wish I could play it in BL2’s campaign instead of meme sequel.
>have to stand and wait for exposition to end before you can move on in quests
Fucking hate this, it's by far the worst part about the game
is matchmaking broken in 3?
i actually just replayed all of borderlands one. currently farming armory chest to get gear to kill craw.
nah bl3 still sucks. i remember being so excited for that game at one point too, sad.
I miss stomper roland builds
>metal storm procs
>gun is shooting far past the framerate
>start mag dumping into a badass crit spot with 200 bullets
>quickcharge is going off every microsecond
>game starts taking a shit and the sound breaks making it completely silence
Any mod to unlock Mayhem levels on new characters?
Here's your new cast bro
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
The first sentence of Lou13 makes me think they were just trying to make HK47 again.
>What if everyone was hideous and 48 years old?
>let's make the most unrelatable characters possible
>DID WE MENTION
>everyone loved tales, we could do that. how hard can it be?
Did Rhys and Sasha fuck?
>Rhys had a very compelling arc in Tales
>he is now le mustache man
>>he is now le mustache man
Rys will remember that.
salvador was the most fun bl2 charater with axton as number 2 and im tired of pretending.
yeah even at op8, never played when they upped the cap again
>2 has the suicide quest
>fucking funniest shit in the game
>3 has the suicide quest
>boring as hell and not funny in the slightest
What went wrong?
The novelty wears off
And the bad guy asking for it fucking sucks
why is she so aggressively ugly. you would think they would just reuse the same face like a lot of games do and its just features built on top but for ava they purposefully made the least attractive face possible . she doesn't even need to be hot or even just a little ugly. i don't really care about wanting to fuck her, just not be forced to stare at her goblin face
She isn't ugly. There's plenty of ugly characters in BL, she's not one of them.
She probably would have been better received if they didn't cut out some of her scenes out.
Why is her lips bigger than the black characters
Some people have big lips, anon.
Anon, she's fuckugly
She isn't though. Tyreen is fuck ugly. Tiny Tiny is fuck ugly. She's above average.
>Tyreen is fuck ugly
silence i love that massive headed bitch
Little grey man physiology. Straight up bobble head body.
Yes imagine strange proportions in Borderlands.
The Italian and the Pole, side-by-side.
Why didn't that work?
She looks like she has a genetic disease
why is so passively sexy?
its not fair some of these designs are stuck in a game series spouting meme shit. fl4k and amara are genuinely one of the coolest looking characters in any game i ever seen, same as the entire bl2 cast.
even the more plain ones like marcus, zed, moxxie, roland, claptrap mordacia even all the way back to bl1 are pretty fucking cool, and instantly recognizable. the art team at gearbox really does carry this shit
I have a thing for strong girls but Amara's "Oh look at me famous not-bollywood actress who can bench 500lbs yeah I'm badass and I know it" got on my nerves a lot.
You mean dialogue like this doesn't do it for you?
>I DREAMT OF A BUTTERFLY AND I CRUSHED IT
Amara has some fun lines, but the game feels really sterile without inter-party bantz more than anything else imo. I think there's literally cut ones in the files too, recognizing Moze using her abilitiy.
So how many characters randomly reveal they're gay in the middle of gameplay for no reason at all?
Like two or three?
It's not something you really try to remember anyway.
>play zane full speed buff build
don't care, I WILL zoom through the entire level in one second and I WILL shoot 500 bullets a second
the worst part is how the gay DLC is the best, tame jokes, very little screaming, cool atmosphere and good music
i think the gay dlc proves people really don't care. they just don't like when its done very badly. even here i still see people who enjoy wainwright, hes easily the best nu charater 3 had.
also helps that the degeneracy in recent years has made being just gay tame in comparison, sad getting slippery sloped in real time.
>i still see people who enjoy wainwrigh
He doesn't have a character. Aside from his character design and voice and what he means to the lore he's pretty shit because someone turns on a switch and all he can talk about is his fucking boyfriend
>you now remember the ice T teddy bear arc
>you now remember the B team is only relevant for a single quest
>you now remember the black cowboy literally nobody gives a single fuck about arc
>you now remember the pain and teller arc
>you now remember fl4k is voiced by a fucking eceleb for epic points
>you now remember talk to lilth
Penn and teller actually made me chuckle because it came out of left field. The ice t teddy bear can fuck off forever though, it doesn't help that he doesn't shut up after plugging him into sanctuary.
>>you now remember fl4k is voiced by a fucking eceleb for epic points
this guy. hes not even the absolute worse eceleb possible but its distracting you can easily hear his voice in fl4k.
yeah, this is the first time im seeing this bloat chink
He became popular from vine.
He is a "real nerd' at least, he loves board games/tabletops and will make videos about them even though they perform like shit.
That prozd guy.
>you now remember the ice T teddy bear arc
They tied it in with a Vault Key fragment or something didn't they? So at least it was tied to the main quest.
>you now remember the B team is only relevant for a single quest
Keep them away from the A team and Lilith please
>you now remember the black cowboy literally nobody gives a single fuck about arc
Guarantee Black Cowboy Man was someone's original character they shoehorned into the game.
>you now remember the pain and teller arc
Hey now, that was fun.
>you now remember fl4k is voiced by a fucking eceleb for epic points
Dunno how he managed to springboard from this to other AAA games considering there's so many voice filters to make him Fl4k he's indistinguishable. Like seriously, there's so many voice filters anyone could've been Fl4k
>you now remember talk to lilth
I remember her ass.
I'll never forgive them for what they did to my bro Vaughn. It's even worse than what they did to Brick in BL2. They completely destroyed the best character in TftB.
Fuck you Gearbox. Fuck you Randy Pitchford.
They had to make all the straight white guys in BL3 absolute caricatures.
The real worst character in BL3
yeah i won't disagree. worse charater in the franchise besides maybe gladstone from presequal. I really don't like that zero wants to fuck this chud, he shouldn't want to fuck anyone. hes zero,
don't you love coffee though?
I like a cup but I don't want to put my dick in the pot.
are season pass 1 and 2 any gud?
I only have the vanilla game
It has Jack's doppelganger which means Jack's VA so yes but also a regrettable amount of moxxiwank.
>Hammerlock's big gay wedding
Somehow not as bad as I was expecting.
Actually kind of cool until the narrator says badass about a dozen times.
Has Krieg so also worth it.
That said I wouldn't pay full price.
>axton with 11/5 onslaught and metal storm
shame those things didnt scale any higher. would like to see some +7 or + 8 of those class mods
Is Wonderlands really that bad? I don't mind the plot or the writing since I usually mute all the dialogue and listen to podcasts.
it sure is borderlands 3: more of it
No, i've seen some gameplays and the gunplay looks noticeably worse.
I'm asking people who played both and have a proper answer.
Its playable, there isnt a single good character in the game tho. Cant be attached to the vault hunters like in previous games since you half design your own and pick from some generic voices. Its fine for a brainless time if you can get it for 20 bucks or under
Crossbows and magic guns are extremely underwhelming and you're going to see a lot of them because the weapon parts generation pool is really small.
tina bl3 adult design is so bad they had to ree-boi-fy her lol
not as good as the earlier games but I liked it better than 3 in just about every way
the story is better than 3 at least
worth a pirate if it's cracked already or when it goes on sale
>listen to podcasts
And that's better than the shitty ass bl3 plot?
yeah the gameplay is great but holly shit the writting is the fucking worst. i think some people ue the japanese voices to make it berable.
how satisfied were you with the krieg dlc in 3, not at all or somewhere in the negatives
Just like the devs, i couldn't give a single fuck about it.
not the absolute worse but an extreme missed opportunity in every way. pre 3 release kriegxmaya dominated half of the conversation to the point i remember the theory kreig would be a boss and die like bloodwing was broguht up a lot, just for her to get killed like that
Literally three headhunter packs stapled together.
Good LORD the writing.
>HEY GUYS I'M SUCH A FUCKING gay HOLY SHIT HELP ME FIND MY BOYFRIEND. HIS DICK WONT SUCK ITSELF
I hated everything about Wainwright and his pet buck. It's not enough to have gays they have to make it faggy too.
Shame that the mayhem levels add dumb shit like big heads or the frozen sphere or the floor is lava thing.
Why can't they just give more difficulty to the enemies without giving them dumb shit?
Also, what the fuck were they thinking with the eridian fabricator?
Just get enough eridium from the Ultraviolet mansion and shot that thing at mayhem 10, then go back to a lower mayhem level. That way you'll get OP as fuck weapons.
Mayhem 11 exists which is mayhem 10 without any modifiers. Modifiers suck ass I hated the weird obsession the game had with them.
Eridium fabricator is good early on but it only drops base game weapons.
I am a firm believer that being able to instantly jump up to max mayhem level was a mistake, and each level should have been unlocked similar to OP levels and the peak in BL2. They could have put those eridian trials to good use for this but instead they're now just optional grinding levels.
>vault hunters boring as shit
>all the gay immunity phases dragging boss fights out for no reason
>like 3 raid bosses in the game and 2 of them have you run through a whole map just to get them
>fuck ton of skills dont work(see:fl4k)
its like they went out of their way to sabotage the game as much as possible
the only game this beats is pre sequel
Which skills don't work for fl4k? I don't recall having any trouble with his skills.
used to be on old gearbox forums before being taken down
legit a whole thread of skills for fl4k that dont work as intended /are glitched
>go on Elevenlabs
>make a voice sample of Laura Bailey
>make her apologize profusely to Ava and pledge the continual use of her body as a cumdump until she's able to move on and forgive her
>play it over the one animation of futa Ava fucking Lillith
Anyone tried this? Biggest problem for me is the awful scaling. Was perfect in 1, beyond godawful in 2 and I hear it was more toned down in 3.
Does this mod fuck with the game in any way?
3 doesn't have a problem with it's scaling specifically. The real problem is how much you get showered in legendaries, even in early game.
A lot of legendary guns got buffed to be more viable in the higher mayhem levels, but as a result if you find these guns during the story before mayhem mode then you'll have a gun that will carry you for 10-20 levels.
I don't think you need to mod 3's scaling, just be wary of legendaries early on. If you want to break the game then use them, if not then don't.
Still not a fan of those ridiculous numbers. What's the point of 10 million health when you lose it just as fast as if you had 100 health? At least with 2 it was like that.
She's kinda cute still.
At least they not ruined her as much as Moxxi or Lilith
claptrap dlc in bltps was unironically the best one in the series aside from tiny tities' dragonkeep
Was there ever a mod that removes all the godawful screen effects? That shit is giving me eye cancer.
end game builds arent fun, farming is slow and boring, strong but boring characters, eye cancer effects, pretty fucking awful levels, pretty good dlc
Id rather just play bl2
no build feels as good as basically any decent zer0 build so nah
it also lacks post game as good as bl2
also a lot (most?) of legendarys are so op they trivialize the game including ML10
also you can't ignore the writing the game repeatedly and consistently locks you into 3-5 minute long half life in game moviegame moments where you watch the characters spout their voicelines (that you muted) as you alt tab to a youtube video or whatever
also no DLC as good as dragon keep
also ML modifiers are enirely an afterthought and just bad game design, a lot of the combinations are just horrible to play with so instead you roll a combination that basically just makes the mode easier, like the big heads and headshot dmg increase
Borderlands threads are nice because everybody hates the direction of the franchise but nobody really gets butthurt talking about it. Randy memes and people actually trying to make fun out of the games makes it nice as well. I'll probably never play BL3 or any Borderlands game again in the future but these threads are nice.
They should increase level cap. I want access to all trees.
>dark humor and atmosphere of the 1st game
>soundtrack of the 2nd
>gameplay of the 3rd
this would be the best mix for 4
Maya was hot and all but the extremely forced OUTRAGE at our BELOVED character is dead I must do a YOUTUBE about it, just makes me laugh. She didn't even have a character. You just thought the design was hot. The story of BL is so bad that I can't believe people are feigning investment.
bruh, I just liked having a caster
I played Mordecai in BL1 over Lilith because of this
See, that's fine, because you're viewing it mechanically. She isn't playable in 3 so it's irrelevant.
I see what you mean.
People just shipped her with Krieg after that kino trailer, and then she just gets killed in a terribly written scene.
>game treats the story as if there's only 1 vault hunter
>game treats the events of the previous game as if all 4 characters (Roland, Lilith, Brick, Mordecai) were present since the beginning of the story
>game still treats the CURRENT playable characters as if there's only 1 vault hunter
>repeat, but now with all the bl2 characters being canon as well
>there's still only one vault hunter for the present story
I hate this so much. THESE GAMES ARE MADE WITH CO-OP IN MIND, JUST TREAT THE STORY AS IF ALL 4 CHARACTERS ARE PRESENT. It would not bother me one bit to play through the game singleplayer and get referenced as vault hunters instead of just vault hunter.
Vault hunter is plural.
2 cuz krieg and salvador are the most fun vault hunters to play in the series. zane, nisha, and the mage class that gives you two spells in wonderlands come in close 3rd, 4th, 5th tho
So anyone else fapped to Tina or just me?
>double maggie supremacy
if the story was just mediocre in BL3 it'd be one thing but it's more than that, it's very cringey. At least they made the cutscenes skippable this time
I think they added that in way later though.
>is the best character in your path
Borderlands girls factual ranking:
>Gaige, Maya, Fiona
>Lilith, Moxxi, Ava, Sasha, Nisha, Moze
>Athena, Angel, Tannis, Steele
>Amara, Tyreen, Janey, Aurelia
T(urn off TV) tier
>Tiny Tina, Lorelei
>Tyreen in D
Explain why the very first time that dumb slut's ECHO picture popped up I felt an all consuming desire to fuck the ever-loving shit out of her face.
you're a paypig
You like low hanging fruit.
Tannis was so great in Borderlands 1 and 2. They ruined her. She was best girl.
everyone always forgets about it
If you care about the writing in a FPS you deserve the cringe
Ah, I wish that in the next game, in the opening cutscene, Marcus would say that he has another story for you, and actually, he allowed a local retarded girl Ava to come up with the previous story, and in reality, Lilith and Maya are alive
But that probably won't happen
Next game will be a remememaster of 1 to tie in with the upcoming movie.
why did you have to remind me that the borderlands movie is going to be a thing?
Lilith is alive
>done the game so many times I know the fastest ways to get to chests
>beat "where angels fear to tread" and end up in marcus shop
>be the first one in and drop a turret and block the door
>take my time looting the chests
>the ass pain from everyone else
>pre sequel has the most fun characters locked behind the worst campaign
it's not fair bros...
Unfortunately the game often grinds to a halt to force feed you cringe dialog and women standing around talking about the things they want to do while your character offers nothing of value.
Is it me or every single sniper rifle is absolutely useless in 3?
thought jakob's rifles were great
bro your complex root? your skull smasher?? your sandhawk???
I remember the maliwan volcano sniper doing outrageous amounts of damage for basically no reason
I loved borderlands 2 and was kinda looking forwards to this one but something about just seemed stinky to me. Is it worth playing through it.
At this point, nah. They cut it apart and respliced it so many times. On release, with out rebalancing and fracturing the player base, yeah.
shes still hot idic. clearly older now but would 100%
there not feigning interest but you are right. maya is legitimacy the vault hunter with the least amount of personality in bl2. her voice is hot tho ngl
fun fact she actually has the least amount of voice lines in bl2 at only 8 mins when most others have 12-18 and kreig with the most at 24 mins . but people become attached way too easily to things and were excited to see where there favorite player charaters would do in the next game just for her to die in possibly one of the worse ways possible and then be mocked but not even in a funny way.
jack roland lets all get milkshakes is funny.
tyreens maya death footage with stupid sounds was embarresing
If Maya was ugly, like Lorelei, but nothing else was changed whatsoever, would there have been this outrage?
40-50% less outrage
probably but i do think bl2 popularity has a lot to do with it. that game sold near 30 million copies or something. thats a lot of maya fags wanting to see there epic pc who only says 5 separate voice lines over and over do something just to be shat on in one of the harshest methods i have ever seen lmao.
i never played maya in bl2. was always salvador, zero or krieg and would rather fuck gaige so i didn't really care but i was upset that zero is now attached to fucking nu ryhs and wants to fuck a chud. so i guess i get there pain.
Not an ounce.
I doubt about that
God, I love Fyrestone Theme or whatever the fuck that is. Good song.
yeah its pretty good. I personally think borderlands as a whole has an underrated ost
Boring as a character but being somewhat normal on the borderlands scale makes it at least interesting to see where they end up. I played Roland in 1 and Maya in 2 (Moze in 3, sorry Moze) and in BL2 it felt like a serious upping of the stakes.
BL3 just made me feel tired when it happened. The worst part was that little video. It would have been 100% better to have a little Maya chudjack hanging from Troy's hand painted on a wall somewhere like Bloodwings body in opportunity
>play Borderlands 3
>have the most expensive version btw
>insanely fun and enjoy everything
>instantly quit game and never went back
Whoever fucktard killed Maya should just be thrown out of Gearbox and blacklisted for every company. Absolute piece of useless garbage.
Unironically, Gearbox should completely rewrite the lore, let Maya live, and reprogram the game.
Maya's dead literally killed Borderlands and Gearbox games for me. Borderlands was never a serious game and then killing the best character was beyond retarded.
People liked Maya and I don't think there would've been an issue with her dying if she died in a way people could respect. She is just a character after all. The problem is that the writers are retarded and if you aren't a smart writer, you're a bad writer. You can't insult fans by disrespecting what they like by doing that.
seriously, she died a painful death that could've been prevented by the player for a terrible gremlin kid
true, and also increase the viable items on mayhem 11, fucking tired of using the re volter.
I don't give the slightest shit about Borderlands' "story" or characters. I only decide what I think of them by how attractive they are.
is it less mid than 2, 2 was so bad.
I'm about to start pre-sequel, who do I play and why? I've also got doppelganger and baroness.
doppleganger is the most fun
people really like athena inlcuding me. shes great but you have to deal with a lesbo
nisha was busted and fun but nerfed a bunch so idk
wilhelm and claptrap are snooze fests
i don't think anyone ever even played baroness so idk
Dopper. His playstyles are silly as.
Wilhelm's shoulder cannon is useless.
Although is fun to see him how he replaces parts of his body tho.
Also, if you don't want to hear the part with the cringy-ass dialogues between Torgue and that lesbian, choose to destroy the laser weapon in the mission
What was that shit again?
that would've meant giving other characters the spotlight instead of lilith and maya, and that's no good
You mean Lilith and Lilith, teaming up with Lilith to save Lilith.
So what happend with this? remember we thought they were going to bring in every still alive now older vault hunter with new trees for a massive game instead of what feels like a idk side game?
borderlands 1 set up the sequel. presequal is just additional context to the sequel and 3 just comes out of nowhere
They scrapped the shit out of that game. Even the studio behind it.
They only recovered the cryo damage, the butt slam and Athena being lesbian.
the War was the ending of Tales of, where you use different vault hunters to fight the guardian
maybe i was too harsh to you pre-sequel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oub6at2duQk&ab_channel=Wicknim
now here's the good version
nisha voice is pure sexo
Blue siren pussy OBLITERATED by large psychopath schlong.
Really on the fence about getting BL3
>giving money to Cuckbox
>the supposedly good DLCs aren't really even on sale
just pirate it. im sure its cracked. i do genuinely think bl 1/2 are some of the best if not the best loot games to exist even surpassing diablo 2 at least for me and i hate the discussion is always about how faggy it is but i guess thats completely earned by gearbox.
personally i don't care for bl3 as much, it is a tad too faggy and i usually have a massive tolerance for that but its not close to the worse game to ever exist, i would rather replay bl3 over diablo 3 for instance
It's the worst one because now Maya doesn't exist anymore. They didn't need to kill her off, and now we'll never be able to interact with her in future Borderlands games. There's no point in sequels because they got rid of the most pleasant character in the game with the best Action Skill.
>this is the best piece of shit if you ignore the chunks of corn
You have shit taste. Fuck off back to plebbit.
I thought Wonderlands was, aside from BL1 and the Bounty of Blood DLC, the most fun I've had with a Borderlands type game. The characters aren't as cringe as i thought they would be, music and combat is great, locations are varied and huge. I really wish they had made a decent DLC I need more from that world. Sad it seems it'll be a standalone game.
not having additional vault hunter dlcs was a massive mistake. krieg and doppleganger were some of the best unique characters they ever made and 3 feels empty still stuck with the same 4. fuck the 4th skill tree
what did they mean by this?
The sweatbox is the 'ussy and the tears are urine.
Reminder that this thing got stuffed into the game because the artist insisted.
It's not that Maya was an amazingly deep or important character that makes it suck that she was killed off, it's that she was YOUR character. Or at least the representation of that character you might have sunk a hundred hours into becoming a god of a vault hunter, that you grew to like as an extension of your progress.
It's painfully appearent how little care the hackjob wannabe writers for BL2 and 3 actually have for VIDEO GAMES, because they don't see any of the previous characters as player characters. It's almost insulting to see Mordecai turn into a generic alcoholic Mexican, or Lilith turn into Roland's orbiter before forgetting how to even use a gun in 3 without muh Siren powers as gets slapped around. THAT'S the character you killed fucking General Knoxx with? It should be fucking cool seeing the old PCs appear in a new game, not emberassing.
Obviously they see it as a way to force drama.
the only thing i found weird about bloodwings death was the bird getting a bigger statute than fucking roland at the end lmao.
leader of the crimson raiders outdone by a bird
Slagged Bloodwing model repurposed, please understand.
Bloodwing had more personality and was a more likeable character
They were just repeating Roland being killed off in BL2. Nothing more.
Is there any sóyboy woke sjwshit goyslop in this game?
uhhh idk about a lot of those buzz words but there is a chud and tons of fags if thats what you mean
What are we thinking of the movie cast so far?
It's junk no one will see
DAMMMMN KNOXX LOOKS LIKE THAT
if it's live action, roland will get shot through the head instead of the chest if kevin's playing him
I just played through it with my son, was on sale and I really enjoyed BL1 back when it came out. Gameplay was so good. (Too easy though) I didn't even expect the fuckin awful ending credits. Had planned to keep playing for the fun loot grind but all interest died.
You know I kinda agree, the gameplay itself is fun but the dialogue and characters are so cringe I can't force myself to finish it. I played it 2 times, first time I quit after the first planet, then I just ignored the dialogue and story, got to the 3rd planet and then quit again. I can't it's too cringe.
>if you ignore the writing.
sometimes it's good to be ESL (jokes are less shitty)
The gunplay looks really nice in BL3. I'm never going to play it but you know your game is fucked when the first compliment people can think of is *shooting in the shooty-game feels good*.
true. shooting gameplay isn't that difficult to be good enough. first person shooter gameplay was already good enough since 1996 with quake. its the things that surround the shooting gameplay that determines if something is special or not.
i was having fun but after i saw how they made gaige into an old woman i couldnt go on.
Damn. Handsome jack's daughter looked like this?
>bl3 has like 5k players still
>Could never find anyone to actually play with in raids or slaughter shaft
Is everyone just playing mods or something? Also I was thinking about reinstalling then remembered it's 133 gb
the insane filesize puts me off any time I think about playing it
who would want to play multiplayer in a game you could just Cheat Engine whatever you wanted into anyway
I don't get why Wonderlands is so dead, did they just not promote the game at all?
I prefer TPS but BL2 has more content.
That being said BL2 is so stupidly grindy.
>game is good if you ignore bad
How the fuck do you ignore the writing when it never shuts the fuck up even with nobody actually around you.
Unironically, by muting voice audio and leaving subtitles off.
>they dont know what ignore means.
>thinks he's ignoring when he's really tolerating
borderlands 4 baybee, can't wait to play as...oh they're all dead or gay
How would you make a fun fight against a monster this big?
the entire dlc is the fight
a really long gun
Entire mission spent just getting on top of the creature and inside to do damage.
I kinda want to fuck Moze
Not the futa one, I'm not disgusting