>3 expansions over the entire 11 years of the game's life >New expansion is $40 ($23 on sale at the time of me writing this) >Previous 2 expansions are now a bundle for $30 >No subscription fee or invasive cash shop on top of this when literally every other MMO garden gnomes you from every angle possible
The game is fine by the standards of the genre but anyone who has played GW1 will forever hate it.
>anyone who has played GW1 will forever hate it.
I bought GW1 and all its expansions day one and played it for thousands of hours. It took 4 years for me to get bored of it.
I'm still not bored of GW2 after 11 years.
Most GW2 players were GW1 veterans and they kept the game alive for twice the lifespan of GW1. It's pretty clear people shitting on GW2 are a minority of haters.
GW1 was a different type of games, a type of games that was almost never made again. There must be a reason for that. It's not what most people want.
And I was a fan of that type of games, I was hyped for Hellgate:London mostly because I wanted a new game using the GW formula.
Sorry anon but that's a copium post. Most GW2 are not GW1 players, they're a completely different demographic that were pulled in post GW2 launch. The population of GW1 couldn't even hold a candle to GW2's population in terms of sheer numbers so that assumption is completely wrong.
Why would I need copium, it's not like GW2 flopped.
Most GW2 players today are not GW1 players anymore, especially since it was added on Steam but at the start and for several years, it was pretty clearly mostly veterans and most of them used their GW1 ingame title. I seethed quite a bit looking at all those GWAMM during world bosses.
Also a lot of guilds came directly from GW1 too, the 3 in my alliance where formed in GW1 for example.
All you've done is give anecdotes about GW1 vets being the majority of GW2 players.
MMO players are hardcore achievement hunters. Not all of them played GW1 during current, hell, they prolly paid GW2 currency to get their GW1 accounts boosted so they could get those titles.
GW1 sold 6 million copies. GW2 has 16 million accounts. That's not most GW1 players keeping GW2 afloat. GW2 definitely failed to keep a high retention rate of GW1 players.
I'll be honest, I've never known why anyone would play GW2 for so long. The armour mogs suck, the gameplay has hardly been innovated since release, basic barber shop customisation is locked behind gems, ANet doesnt know what to do with their gameplay loops, the plot is awful, archaic gameplay locked like certain seasons being unplayable.
The game just feels like a hot mess and they need to streamline a lot of this.
I dig the plant people aesthetic and occasionally role up a character to take through the original and HoT, but then the story takes a massive nose dive in quality so I fuck off for a year or two. Rinse and repeat.
Because its story is fucking atrocious and you are forced not only to do it to get all the shit, but do gay fucking achievements in the story instances which are incredibly dull and drag on for way too long.
Also it peaked with HoT entirely as far as design goes, mounts are shit additions and PoF zones are worse for having them. Zones themselves are just there, with barely any meta events worth a notice, and rewards are so fucking shit you are pretty much forced to grind one HoT zone which is the only one in the entire game that awards you with armor that can select any stats you want.
Gw2 base game was decent but the monetization and expansions are awful. The game basically tries to inconvenience you as much as possible if you don't pay.
Then you are right, no clue why the fuck would you play it? Seems pretty fucking retarded and autistic to buy a game that has characters/stories that you do not enjoy.
Good thing you are neither of those things and you never bought the game.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Unless of course they lied to my face and i cant get a refund so im warning people.
No that cant possibly happen
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Unless of course they lied to my face
The fuck are you talking about, you can easily get spoil of any video game if you do any sort of minimal research. You have the internet you dumb fuck.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>im warning people >implying anyones gonna believe anything in shitposter central
Do people seriously and unironically take advice from Ganker? Because that would explain a lot
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Unless of course they lied to my face
The fuck are you talking about, you can easily get spoil of any video game if you do any sort of minimal research. You have the internet you dumb fuck.
It makes you seethe immensely when someone tells the truth doesnt it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, it makes me seethe to see a retard hates certain content but the are too fucking retarded to bother to see if the video game they get has that content.
No different than the dumb fucks who pre order shit and bitch about how shit the game is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
oh fuck off you disengious cunt
One minute youre, you cant criticize it you haven't played it and now youre you should have known before hand
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>One minute youre, you cant criticize it you haven't played it
The fuck are you talking about? When the fuck did I said?
I said do your fucking research before buying a game you dumb fuck. And if you dont do your research you have only yourself to blame.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
right here
Then you are right, no clue why the fuck would you play it? Seems pretty fucking retarded and autistic to buy a game that has characters/stories that you do not enjoy.
Good thing you are neither of those things and you never bought the game.
>Good thing you are neither of those things and you never bought the game.
Fucking dipshit. I dont know what makes you seethe when others just openly point out what makes a game shit. You worthless fucking gay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Again, I dont give a shit about GW2, its a shit game compared to the first.
My point is that I knew the game was shit and didn't bother to get it. If I bought and saw how shit it was, the first person I would blame is my self for not looking up info on the game.
What the fuck is so hard for you schizos to understand? It is not politics or the gay morons in the video games, its common fucking sense when buying any product.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Please look up all the gay shit and post it here, it must be such a easy fucking job
You can't use this video here though
Go on ill wait find me 5 videos of gay bullshit and ill concede
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
every other female character is in a lesbian romance
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you have to post videos
I cant just take your word for it, after all the anon i was arguing with had a shit fit over me doing the exact same thing
Your own research.
Show me some of that shit gameplay that one has no idea how it feels till they actually play a character
Show me that shit story summed up
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, do your own research.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it must be such a easy fucking job
I never said it was, do you want your slop to just be handed to you? You seem to give a lot of shit for it, then do it yourself, if not, it is not my responsibility or anyone's to do it for you. Its your money and time that you are crying about.
God dam, how crazy of a fucking concept is that "I fucking hate gays, therefore im going to look up the writers, company, etc that made this game to make sure they aren't selling me one" but since you are a cockgurgguling gay that is too much of a lazy fucking NPC that enjoys their free slop, im going to wait for the youtube video from my favorite schizo".
how very convenient that you couldnt find said 5 videos.
Almost like anons talking about online and also posting evidence is just as important so people can have a conversation without being shut down by a self righteous cunt. >do your research
What the fuck would even be the point of all these threads, i cant think of a more boring discussion killer. > it is not my responsibility or anyone's to do it for you
Thats what i did you stupid motherfucker, youre the one going >durrr why are we talking about this
You stupid worthless piece of shit how fucking stupid are you as a human being.
I can do you one better and find the nearest clusterfuck of people auto attacking an HP sponge and grab a screeny of the game looking like vomit from all the fields people put down.
I've played WoW thats really standard mmo at this point
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
not meant for
No, do your own research.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I can do you one better and find the nearest clusterfuck of people auto attacking an HP sponge and grab a screeny of the game looking like vomit from all the fields people put down.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it must be such a easy fucking job
I never said it was, do you want your slop to just be handed to you? You seem to give a lot of shit for it, then do it yourself, if not, it is not my responsibility or anyone's to do it for you. Its your money and time that you are crying about.
God dam, how crazy of a fucking concept is that "I fucking hate gays, therefore im going to look up the writers, company, etc that made this game to make sure they aren't selling me one" but since you are a cockgurgguling gay that is too much of a lazy fucking NPC that enjoys their free slop, im going to wait for the youtube video from my favorite schizo".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This, the gameplay is phenomenally shit. They wanted to make Monster Hunter but with MMO tab targetting and without the fucking weight behind attacks, moving, fucking everything. It boggles my fucking mind that Anet had a working system in 1, and if they really wanted to draw in the MMO crowd they could have just done the same shit but in a big open world. No, they had to make the retarded bastrd child of WoW and MonHun.
>Why did you tell me it was bad?
Because you listened to GW1 fanboys who seethe at the mere mention of the game and woke-obssessed schizos.
Modern Ganker is always wrong, that's one of the first rule here.
There are two kinds of MMO players.
The anti social solo player virgin who plays themepark MMOs. Vertical progression. Groupfinder. No risk, no reward gameplay. Skinnerbox grinder with poopsocket endgame.
The PvP chad who plays sandbox MMOs. Horizontal progression. Teamplay. Making friends. High risk, high reward. Winner takes it all. The PvP is the endgame.
The problem with GW2 is that it's neither a true PvE or PvP MMORPG. It tries to be friends with both sides, making nobody happy in the end.
Story is shit, classes are shit, races are shit, abilities are shit. It's like wow but everything is boring and watered down.
Jump puzzles were nice tho
95% of peoples opinions come from people buying it in 2012, playing it for a few weeks then dropping it
that said, it's a great MMO; but the horizontal progression really just isn't for everyone
Game play is objectively better, but story, lore, and characters are very mid.
1 ) horizontal progression that is pay-shop gated
2 ) stuipid dungeons/raids balance because there is no class trinity
>pay shop gated
Both WoW and FFXIV require you to buy expansions, at least this one doesn't force you to pay a sub
>Both WoW and FFXIV require you to buy expansions, at least this one doesn't force you to pay a sub
I'm pretty sure you're required to buy the expansions in GW2 so you can unlock shit like mounts and end game professions.
>3 expansions over the entire 11 years of the game's life
>New expansion is $40 ($23 on sale at the time of me writing this)
>Previous 2 expansions are now a bundle for $30
>No subscription fee or invasive cash shop on top of this when literally every other MMO garden gnomes you from every angle possible
>no invasive cash shop
if facts supported you you wouldn't need sophistry
There's literally nothing in the cash shop worth buying if you're not a chud playing dressup.
you can literally buy the expansions with in game gold if you're that cheap
no you can't, you can only buy living world seasons
same shit
you need to expansion to play the LW... how is it even close to the same?
Neither of these things are true what are you even talking about
good leveling
bad combat
bad dungeons and raids
it's free tho and has a shitton of content
It's gotten better over the years but the design flaws are still there.
a piece of hardened shit in some bum's underpants is better than ffxiv
I played gw1 so I fucking hated gw2
>I played gw1 so I fucking hated gw2
>anyone who has played GW1 will forever hate it.
I bought GW1 and all its expansions day one and played it for thousands of hours. It took 4 years for me to get bored of it.
I'm still not bored of GW2 after 11 years.
Most GW2 players were GW1 veterans and they kept the game alive for twice the lifespan of GW1. It's pretty clear people shitting on GW2 are a minority of haters.
GW1 was a different type of games, a type of games that was almost never made again. There must be a reason for that. It's not what most people want.
And I was a fan of that type of games, I was hyped for Hellgate:London mostly because I wanted a new game using the GW formula.
My bro, people stopped playing 1 only because Anet hyped 2 to hell and back and put 1 on maintenance mode when 2 released.
>It's not what most people want.
Speak for yourself.
Sorry anon but that's a copium post. Most GW2 are not GW1 players, they're a completely different demographic that were pulled in post GW2 launch. The population of GW1 couldn't even hold a candle to GW2's population in terms of sheer numbers so that assumption is completely wrong.
The only thing keeping the game alive are whales.
Why would I need copium, it's not like GW2 flopped.
Most GW2 players today are not GW1 players anymore, especially since it was added on Steam but at the start and for several years, it was pretty clearly mostly veterans and most of them used their GW1 ingame title. I seethed quite a bit looking at all those GWAMM during world bosses.
Also a lot of guilds came directly from GW1 too, the 3 in my alliance where formed in GW1 for example.
he's right about GW2 being kept afloat by whales
All you've done is give anecdotes about GW1 vets being the majority of GW2 players.
MMO players are hardcore achievement hunters. Not all of them played GW1 during current, hell, they prolly paid GW2 currency to get their GW1 accounts boosted so they could get those titles.
GW1 sold 6 million copies. GW2 has 16 million accounts. That's not most GW1 players keeping GW2 afloat. GW2 definitely failed to keep a high retention rate of GW1 players.
I'll be honest, I've never known why anyone would play GW2 for so long. The armour mogs suck, the gameplay has hardly been innovated since release, basic barber shop customisation is locked behind gems, ANet doesnt know what to do with their gameplay loops, the plot is awful, archaic gameplay locked like certain seasons being unplayable.
The game just feels like a hot mess and they need to streamline a lot of this.
I dig the plant people aesthetic and occasionally role up a character to take through the original and HoT, but then the story takes a massive nose dive in quality so I fuck off for a year or two. Rinse and repeat.
>Most GW2 players were GW1 veterans
Doubt it since gw2 is GW in name only.
11 years of mismanagement, such a shame since the game has strong bones.
Because its story is fucking atrocious and you are forced not only to do it to get all the shit, but do gay fucking achievements in the story instances which are incredibly dull and drag on for way too long.
Also it peaked with HoT entirely as far as design goes, mounts are shit additions and PoF zones are worse for having them. Zones themselves are just there, with barely any meta events worth a notice, and rewards are so fucking shit you are pretty much forced to grind one HoT zone which is the only one in the entire game that awards you with armor that can select any stats you want.
>Why did you tell me it was bad?
Because Guild Wars 1 was better
GW1 isn't even a MMO
because it's garbage and shits up the universe established in the first game
Gw2 base game was decent but the monetization and expansions are awful. The game basically tries to inconvenience you as much as possible if you don't pay.
too many gays
So does this site but you keep coming here.
i can call them pederasts and aids magnets on Ganker. I can only worship them in GW2
So your issue isnt that there are gays in there in the first place, is that you cant shit talk them?
I cant ignore or skip their dialogue
Then you are right, no clue why the fuck would you play it? Seems pretty fucking retarded and autistic to buy a game that has characters/stories that you do not enjoy.
Good thing you are neither of those things and you never bought the game.
Unless of course they lied to my face and i cant get a refund so im warning people.
No that cant possibly happen
>Unless of course they lied to my face
The fuck are you talking about, you can easily get spoil of any video game if you do any sort of minimal research. You have the internet you dumb fuck.
>im warning people
>implying anyones gonna believe anything in shitposter central
Do people seriously and unironically take advice from Ganker? Because that would explain a lot
It makes you seethe immensely when someone tells the truth doesnt it
No, it makes me seethe to see a retard hates certain content but the are too fucking retarded to bother to see if the video game they get has that content.
No different than the dumb fucks who pre order shit and bitch about how shit the game is.
oh fuck off you disengious cunt
One minute youre, you cant criticize it you haven't played it and now youre you should have known before hand
>One minute youre, you cant criticize it you haven't played it
The fuck are you talking about? When the fuck did I said?
I said do your fucking research before buying a game you dumb fuck. And if you dont do your research you have only yourself to blame.
right here
>Good thing you are neither of those things and you never bought the game.
Fucking dipshit. I dont know what makes you seethe when others just openly point out what makes a game shit. You worthless fucking gay
Again, I dont give a shit about GW2, its a shit game compared to the first.
My point is that I knew the game was shit and didn't bother to get it. If I bought and saw how shit it was, the first person I would blame is my self for not looking up info on the game.
What the fuck is so hard for you schizos to understand? It is not politics or the gay morons in the video games, its common fucking sense when buying any product.
Please look up all the gay shit and post it here, it must be such a easy fucking job
You can't use this video here though
Go on ill wait find me 5 videos of gay bullshit and ill concede
every other female character is in a lesbian romance
you have to post videos
I cant just take your word for it, after all the anon i was arguing with had a shit fit over me doing the exact same thing
Your own research.
Show me some of that shit gameplay that one has no idea how it feels till they actually play a character
Show me that shit story summed up
No, do your own research.
how very convenient that you couldnt find said 5 videos.
Almost like anons talking about online and also posting evidence is just as important so people can have a conversation without being shut down by a self righteous cunt.
>do your research
What the fuck would even be the point of all these threads, i cant think of a more boring discussion killer.
> it is not my responsibility or anyone's to do it for you
Thats what i did you stupid motherfucker, youre the one going
>durrr why are we talking about this
You stupid worthless piece of shit how fucking stupid are you as a human being.
I've played WoW thats really standard mmo at this point
not meant for
I can do you one better and find the nearest clusterfuck of people auto attacking an HP sponge and grab a screeny of the game looking like vomit from all the fields people put down.
>it must be such a easy fucking job
I never said it was, do you want your slop to just be handed to you? You seem to give a lot of shit for it, then do it yourself, if not, it is not my responsibility or anyone's to do it for you. Its your money and time that you are crying about.
God dam, how crazy of a fucking concept is that "I fucking hate gays, therefore im going to look up the writers, company, etc that made this game to make sure they aren't selling me one" but since you are a cockgurgguling gay that is too much of a lazy fucking NPC that enjoys their free slop, im going to wait for the youtube video from my favorite schizo".
This, the gameplay is phenomenally shit. They wanted to make Monster Hunter but with MMO tab targetting and without the fucking weight behind attacks, moving, fucking everything. It boggles my fucking mind that Anet had a working system in 1, and if they really wanted to draw in the MMO crowd they could have just done the same shit but in a big open world. No, they had to make the retarded bastrd child of WoW and MonHun.
>Why did you tell me it was bad?
I don't know how you haven't learned by now that nuGanker has shit taste
sorry you made a bait thread for a game so uninteresting that it'll fall off the catalog before anybody even has an argument, OP
>Why did you tell me it was bad?
Because you listened to GW1 fanboys who seethe at the mere mention of the game and woke-obssessed schizos.
Modern Ganker is always wrong, that's one of the first rule here.
The game is fine by the standards of the genre but anyone who has played GW1 will forever hate it.
OP you need to see this
Also brb, I'll get my twitter screencaps collage.
No dont you need to play the game first, why are you complaining just eat the shit and let others eat shit too?
if you're a chud sure must be
I wonder if it's even possbile to have a Ganker thread without someone mentioning trannies
The honeymoon period this game puts you through is a lie. The game gets fucking boring.
Ganker hates good games
Gameplay is still a clusterfuck of visual pollution.
only thing this game is good for is charr women, who are built for bbc
sure is op
There are two kinds of MMO players.
The anti social solo player virgin who plays themepark MMOs. Vertical progression. Groupfinder. No risk, no reward gameplay. Skinnerbox grinder with poopsocket endgame.
The PvP chad who plays sandbox MMOs. Horizontal progression. Teamplay. Making friends. High risk, high reward. Winner takes it all. The PvP is the endgame.
The problem with GW2 is that it's neither a true PvE or PvP MMORPG. It tries to be friends with both sides, making nobody happy in the end.
>pvp sandbox nig thinks his opinion matters
Story is shit, classes are shit, races are shit, abilities are shit. It's like wow but everything is boring and watered down.
Jump puzzles were nice tho
unless you really like a LOT of gay propaganda, can't recommend playing it.
>unskipable cutscenes
95% of peoples opinions come from people buying it in 2012, playing it for a few weeks then dropping it
that said, it's a great MMO; but the horizontal progression really just isn't for everyone
welcome to the Ganker ffxiv circle jerk. guildwars 2 is a great game
Easily best MMO.
>Why did you tell me it was bad?
Because it's shit.
I tried but WoW drones and FF schizos drowned me out
FUCK YEAH I LOVE JUMPING PUZZLES AND RENOWN HEARTS
ITS SOOO FUN AMIRITE SISTERS?
Is gunsaber still shit?
I only liked the jumping puzzles. It was a clear upgrade from /jump in guild wars 1
The heart of thorns zones felt like massive metroidvania jumping puzzles, I wish the PoF maps were as fun.
>WvW Alliances announced early 2018
>Still not out
>Still working on it