This shit is some black magic. How can the Steam Deck play so many games, and with Linux?

This shit is some black magic. How can the Steam Deck play so many games, and with Linux? Proton 9.0 made it even better too. At this point it's going to surpass Windows in ease of use and already has with loads of older games. All that's left is EAC.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how can it play so many games
    With Proton, a bunch of tools including Wine, a translation layer for Windows system calls. In fact games are less likely to break over time on Linux than on Windows, because it is possible to use a static Wine version over an ever evolving Windows install.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know compatibility mode on Windows is a compatibility layer right? Just like wine.
      It is not as complex and probably falls shorter in "compatibility" than Linux, but it is the same concept.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wine isn't a compatibility layer. Windows compatibility mode rarely makes things work, it's not the same concept as it doesn't include specific system call sets, it just tells the software "i'm this version of windows with these capabilities". For frick sake there's only one win7, one win8 and one win10 option in this compatibility mode and those systems have had many system call changes throughout their lifetimes. Way to be ignorant.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Wine isn't a compatibility layer
          Then you should go and edit this page:
          ://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
          >Wine is a free and open-source compatibility layer

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Wine isn't a compatibility layer
          Already wrong
          >Windows compatibility mode rarely makes things work
          Yes? Because it is simple, as I've said. It barely works, but sometimes it does.
          >For frick sake there's only one win7, one win8 and one win10 option in this compatibility mode and those systems have had many system call changes throughout their lifetimes
          As I've said, it's not as complex, it's like a band aid for compatibility.
          Are you reading?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't forget to increase the vram and swap space

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EAC will work if the publishers allow it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder if there's anyway Valve could just make it happen regardless. Some publishers are just too lazy and I doubt people like Timmy will ever capitulate.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Computex is a few weeks away, if AMD releases a 9800X3D, next PC build I will be using the SteamDeck OS for new desktop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is there any real benefit to using steamos over any other version of linux if it's not on the deck? I guess you could make your own steam machine "home console".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Is there any real benefit to using steamos over any other version of linux if it's not on the deck?
        No. People who refuse to believe that Linux runs games apparently think SteamOS is special because of some inspecified console magic, but if any such magic exists then it's in the hardware. SteamOS is just Arch with Steam, etc., pre-installed, and an update system that reverts user changes outside of /home (and you can get the resulting stability just by not dicking around with sudo in the first place).

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    once my PC goes kaput I'm planning on getting one of these and a tablet for my shitposting needs, how feasible is this in terms of needs?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't get adblock on an ipad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well it doesn't necessarily have to be an ipad
        but couldn't you just block ads on the router level or whatever

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you lying?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ABP
          lmao. They just replace ads with their own nowadays.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are many many different adblockers on iOS and iPadOS.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can use brave

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The deck is a dedicated gaming device with the freedom of a pc for the purpose of better gaming and control over how you play. You can use it for anything else you want, but it may not be convenient enough as you'll have to buy a dock, mouse, keyboard, work with linux (or install windows, though I have to say the deck has given me a very favorable impression of linux), etc. If you're interested in the deck for gaming you should get it for that and then if you decide you'd be happy with it as a replacement for your computer, then go that route.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >work with linux
        SteamOS is absolutely fine for casual PC needs, the only somewhat complex thing is moving files between your Windows and Deck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it will work for you because you're one of the Gankeredditors not playing videogames (yes you are your entire post shows that)
      deck is not a full pc replacement and tablets are fricking garbage

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what do you mean?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how feasible is this in terms of needs?
      It's feasible if and only if Steam Deck runs all the games you want to play. What more can we say? You didn't define "needs".

      what do you mean?

      He means you can't play some games on your Steam Deck.
      I think Fortnite runs on tablets though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I only play a few normalgay AA games every couple of years and emulate PS2 (and below) games. the most demanding as of late were Tekken 8 and Dragon's Dogma 2. I was curious what anon meant when he said my entire post showed that I didn't play video games.

        The deck is a dedicated gaming device with the freedom of a pc for the purpose of better gaming and control over how you play. You can use it for anything else you want, but it may not be convenient enough as you'll have to buy a dock, mouse, keyboard, work with linux (or install windows, though I have to say the deck has given me a very favorable impression of linux), etc. If you're interested in the deck for gaming you should get it for that and then if you decide you'd be happy with it as a replacement for your computer, then go that route.

        yeah my computer's only about 5 years old at this point so it might still be a ways off, just wondering if anyone's actually done it before and replaced their PC with a Deck + something else. I'm only really just gaming and browsing on it and nothing else that demands having a whole setup in the corner of the room.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you can't play some games on your Steam Deck.
        getting a subpar experience from quite a bunch of other games is just as important

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How can the Steam Deck play so many games, and with Linux?
    The people who told you Linux can't run games were paid to do so by a corporation that makes a competing operating system. You may have heard of it.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i keep seeing praise for proton 9.
    is it better than GE-Proton?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GE was rebased on Proton 9 a couple of months ago already.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what has your experience with proton been so far? for brand new games? for older games? how about with online enabled games?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for brand new games?
      I don't play them but, based on anecdotal evidence I've seen, it seems like it has a pretty good track record of running new games. If a high-profile release doesn't work on day one, the Proton devs sometimes update Proton to make the game work better. However, this doesn't mean Proton needs to be updated for every new game. Many will just work.
      >for older games?
      It's good for early 2000s games in my experience. Anything older, I usually play with DOSBox or a source port, and that's how such games are often distributed through Steam anyway. If you're playing a Steam game that runs through the Windows version of DOSBox or ScummVM, then I'd recommend swapping out Proton for Boxtron (for native DOSBox) or Roberta (for native ScummVM), or you could just use Luxtorpeda (which handles DOSBox and ScummVM as well as other native engines for various games).
      >how about with online enabled games?
      The only problem with online games specifically is the use of anti-cheat spyware, and support for Linux in these games varies on a case-by-case basis.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bit nitpicky but the Deck as a device looks kinda ugly and the button layout looks like it'll take some getting used to.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bit nitpicky but the Deck as a device looks kinda ugly
      it's not
      >button layout looks like it'll take some getting used to.
      it's a completely normal controller layout, but with trackpads in places where they can actually be used

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it is black magic, both in the good and bad sense

    >got me deck over a year ago
    >"oh yeah, portable Age of Wonders, lets go b***h"
    >install Age of Wonders Shadow Magic
    >black screen with sounds
    >"frick"
    >run on windowed mode
    >mostly works except for some minor visual issues related to windowed mode in general
    >screen is 4:3
    >drives me nuts
    >try multiple proton versions and configs to get full screen working
    >doesnt work
    >try multiple ways to resize window in windowed mode
    >doesnt work
    >even joined a proton discord and tried to ask around some linux eggheads
    >useless
    >develop a quick and dirty script in C# to resize the window, the code is meant to be executed in windows only
    >shit somehow works flawlessly on linux thanks to proton
    >mind finally at peace

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >multiple proton versions
      are you sure you actually tried proton-ge

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This sounds like a problem that could be solved with gamescope.

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