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>this terrifies the fgc boomer
are you just casually ignoring that Daigo and Tokido were using a hitbox too?
Not to mention Daigo totally threw against Idom, too.
Daigo is the only one of the three that put up a fight. Idom only lost GF because game didn't correctly turn his character for the elbow.
>Idom only lost GF because game didn't correctly turn his character for the elbow
Can you break that one down for me? I don't play SFV.
The hypest top8
Meanwhile in the Tekken finals....
A literal child can button mash to top-3 in Kekken, what's your point?
Yeah but you need the power of getting 100% EWGFs to be COOL.
then go ahead and do it moron, we'll be watching
bros unironically think this until people start KBDing their shit and launching theme for it lmao. then they go online and complain
in a thousand matches, you wouldn't take a round off knee
is that so? where is sonicfox then gay, this guy mashed himself in your shitter fighters with no problem while we tekken players are still waiting for him in the top 8. oh forgot he bussy getting rekt by online shitters.
Korean sticks are legitimately better for 3D games but they are trash for 2D games. Absolute fucking trash.
then why did they have to cancel and ban Infiltration from winning everything with a mid tier
Because they'd rather allow cheaters using shitboxes than let infiltration exist rent free in people's heads over fake e drama
>Wiisports shills letting Infiltration do anything these days
Fgc dildo? Tekken is so gay
don't kid yourself, the shitbox is also superior for tekken, fucking cheating device.
I honestly stop playing fightan once you get to fight 1 or 2 hitbox users, it's not fun
It always looks so fun to play with an arcade stick but it seems like a big risk to buy one only to notice how little you can accomplish with it at your current level. Like buying work.
Shouldve banned hitboxes when they had the chance in all honesty. Too late now, also the best fighting game player uses traditional stick and would've won SFV if the masked NWO TOs didn't ban him unjustly.
>Genre totally isn't hard to get into bros
MEANWHILE IN REALITY:
Even the pros specifically buy custom controllers just for these games because the inputs are otherwise that hard
They use hitboxes because they're faster, not easier. It's easier to do TKs on stick than hitboxes, for example.
If it was easy then they'd do it faster.
Inputting isn't hard, it's doing it under tournament pressure that is
OP pic is the only person who won with a hitbox, everyone else was either a ps4 controller or regular arcade albeit with some minor mods like
Meanwhile in the Tekken finals....
Is this guy sponsored? Why is he shilling his shitbox during a celebratory moment?
Yeah he's sponsored by Hitbox.
it's less about difficulty and more about build quality and ergonomics to preserve the health of your hands. a PS4 controller's dpad wears out quickly, a stick or hitbox can last you 10x longer. also plenty of the best players in the world still use basic controllers just fine as in the ends it's preference
Console FPS players spend just as much on controllers and I don't need to explain PC gaymen with $200 mice, $200 keyboards, and $100 mouse pads just to play some MMO kuso.
SFV Grand finalist played on a DS4.
>inputs are hard
not in SFV
You don’t need a stick or fight box to get into the genre. It might help playing at pro levels but you were never going to reach that if you can’t even do a QCF on controller.
Idom crushed all the Japanese gods and he used a PS4 controller. I learned how to do all the inputs and combos as a 9 year old playing on a PS1 controller.
Honest to god truth is zoomers have lower IQ and testosterone which is why they can never do something that we did back when we were children
The guy who came in second to OP was using a fucking PS4 controller.
i play pad actually. it's crazy to see so many different control options picking up though, they used to be very strict with that you could use.
hitbox is unironically cheating.
the hard truth is there is no magic pill to make you a fighting game god
just pick what you like and get to grinding
I feel like I can't use a hitbox since it requires using your left ring finger alot, feels carpal tunnel-y.
There isn't much of a difference between stick and hitbox, with stick you can use you entire arm to do quick inputs as well. Remember Daigo in his GGX days?
diego is one of the few I've seen use winegrip. Most people just use a combination of palm + thumb which is painfully inaccurate
I wish I understood the fucking wine grip outside of Street Fighter. I've seen people use it for KOF and just I cannot comprehend how the fuck they're moving so smoothly
They probably hover their hand so it's not touching the arcade stick box or something
>oh no he's using cherry switches
>just like my keyboard!
Stick is fun to use.
>fightanfags laugh at consolecucks while using a superior controller
>get upset when other fightanfags use superior controller vs them
Just use a mechanical keyboard lol
lmao with Sony dominating the tournament scene? Yeah good luck keyboard warrior
For me, its D-Pad and face buttons. I will never pay for a fight stick, this isnt a job i need to invest in. I'm more than happy to remain a shitter
I heard that people who use hori pads eventually have to replace them since they break after a few months. Or at least the dpad. The only fighting game that feels good with pad is Soulcalibur for me, otherwise using a pad feels like purposely getting blisters.
i just grew up playing fighting games on controllers - fucking dpads on ps1 used to wreck your fingers after a while. ps4 dpad kinda fucking sucks; half the time im playing i realize i've been using the analog stick more than the buttons
So did I, I went from pad to american stick, to japanese stick. I once tried pad with SF5 recently, felt tiring on my thumb to constantly block and move forward while also trying to use each side of the dpad for hadoukens and hurricane kicks.
I feel like the Ps1 dpad is good since it's small, at least for adults, it's practically a button you just tilt around, probably why one of the EVO finalists used it.
>boomer is the face of hitbox
why is it more common for fat guys to have good beards than regular guys
no this does
UF+2? What about it
but idom used pad and his playstyle scares the shit out of many japanese players
anyone done some stats on hitbox vs stick vs pad vs keyboard?
I'd be interested in average input speed (e.g. total frames to input dp) across all input devices by the top level pros. Just how much faster is the hitbox, if at all? Mechanically, it would make intuitive sense that pressing a button is faster than moving a lever, but who's to say for sure?
not dp but whatever
I'm perplexed by the existence of the FGC after the fall of arcades and rise of home gaming.
the people who went to those arcades just bought the home editions
Yes, but how is it still a "community"? Home gaming and online multiplayer turns everyone into faceless names and numbers. There's a reason there was never a "FPS Community".
FPS games don't have locals.
>how is it still a "community"
The tradition of local tournaments is still alive.
>There's a reason there was never a "FPS Community"
Because the genre is vastly more popular as a whole, allowing players of individual games to be far more insular and are otherwise ubiquitously a part of the broader PC gaming community.
Locals don't make sense when the home versions are the main versions of the game and arcades don't exist anymore. You're going to a bar to play on someone else's home console.
And the alternative is what? Online tournaments? When half of the devs can't code a decent netcode for shit?
I'm just saying, it's pretty fucking weird.
You act like LAN parties don't exist. Remember when Starcraft 2's playerbase had a huge protest over the game not supporting LAN? Direct connections are a huge deal.
yes they do
Not in 2022.
I play with a normal controller but i move with the analog stick instead of the d-pad
So keyboards have been op all along?
Seems so. In hindsight, the keyboard is obviously faster to input commands than a mechanical lever. The best typists in the world hit like 200 wpm, that's fast as fuck...
I wonder if there is a correlation between fighting game skill and typing speed now. Think about it, it's the speed of knowing what to enter next and then properly executing that is the key to both.
kek how are these gays only now realizing that
it's more likely that it doesn't matter a lot what you use
>another genre controllers can't win at
All the FGC boomers already switched to it retard
Those are some very short arms, dang, how big of an advantage does it give him?
Are hitboxes really that good? I mostly play on pad
Depends on the game and character you play, personal preference is also a factor
The edge hitboxes give you is only really noticeable at high level play, if you're not really a good player who fights other good players the hitbox will not be winning any match for you
Right now I mostly play fighterz and p4au.
It's just muscle memory and preference at the end of the day. Only swap if you want to show off art or something
It will make some things easier, some things harder.
It won't make you better all of a sudden, but it is objectively the best input scheme.
they've been used since like 2011
more zoomers than boomers complain about it
Only the retarded ones. The only thing that matters is which input method you're comfortable with
Someone post the pic/webm of that one move where you had to unironically draw a fucking star motion-wise with your control stick to make the move actually happen. I don't think fightan vidya has yet to ever top something that ridiculous to this day besides maybe SF4 pretzel motions.
At first I thought you were just being a melodramatic bitch but apparently that was an actual input in Super Dragon Ball Z
IIRC there is an anime game where you have to do a pentagram a few times for the super
I think it was AH or something similar
>SF4 comes out
>"Bro you totally need a 150$ stick bro controllers are gay bro. Keyboards? AH, even MORe gay
>Fast forward a few years
>"Just get a mechanical keyboard, or pay 200 bucks for that plastic box with a dozen buttons on it".
I hate the FGC sometimes
you have more tolerance than me, i've been basically done with it since 2014
During IV era sticks made sense cause game was very input intensive. You'd need it for plinking, piano and double tapping. This game is probably the one responsible for hitbox design too.
You could always make a custom controller for sub 100 but that requires basic proficiency with tools and modern gaymooz don't have that. These days systems made more leniently, so controller doesn't mean much, besides compatibility and personal preference.
People shitting their pants over hitboxes but us chads playing fighting games on keyboard for decades were already using one.
What's the recommended layout to play on a keyboard? I'd like to try it.
ASD and space as the directions
whatever the fuck you want for the buttons
I use the arrow keys to move around and asdf and keys around that for kicks and punches.
Cute asian Miyeon is for african men! Miyeon best girl!
did a hitbox user win evo or is the guy in the pic just a who?
thats kawano and he won SFV
The "FGC boomers" who invented online fighting games all played on keyboard originally. Hitbox was created based on that, ignorant zoomzam.
Not really, I played on a hitbox before they even existed, except I called it a keyboard. Now I can just laugh at all the stick purists.
is this the one. is this the stick that will take me from mid tier ranking to competing against the big boys?
A stick will never help you gain skill
this is currently what i'm using. it has to be the reason I can't push past that wall.
Considering that Luffy won EVO using a fucking PS1 pad, not even a dualshock, it's not the controller's fault. Stick is more fun, though, and might give you more motivation to improve but it won't level you up
Lever is very different experience from d-pad, chances are it will take way too much time to git gut on it, if you have an option - borrow one for at least a month before jumping the gun.
I think hitbox is pretty meh when it comes to characters or games that require harder motions.
Even stuff like 2p side wavedashing in tekken is not smooth at all on hitbox and that's a simple movement all in all. Then you have kof motions where hitbox overcomplicates things.
I think people saw how fast you can regular dash, charge and shimmy and claimed it was the best input method without thinking about all the other games besides sfv.
what's wrong with picture-in-picture?
Play on a arcade stick is just more fun tbh, I’m never going past diamond so I’m okay with playing with a stick forever.
Plus I always hear about hitbox hurting peoples wrists
I bought a stick because I find it fun. I'm also blocking with down instead of down back, people must think I'm retarded.
Wouldn't that make blocking overheads or mixups harder?
Isn't he too fat to live in japan?
Don't they fine these people?
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